Episode Transcript
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Hello everybody.
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And welcome to another episode of the Crucible conversations for the curious.
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Now we've got an amazing story for you today.
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JD is a remarkable human being.
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He has gone through stuff that you wouldn't want your worst enemy to do.
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And he's not just gone through it.
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He's come out the other side saying, okay, next.
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And he's still smiling.
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JD, thank you so much for turning up today.
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Thank you so much for having me on.
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It's a pleasure to be on this show to share my story, getting to know you.
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It's been an amazing, amazing,
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event for my life and so I'm excited to be on the end to get to share my life story and
hopefully we can help somebody else in that journey.
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JD, tell us a little bit about your story, your background and how you got to this state
where you are now.
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Well, I'm originally from Nashville, Tennessee, and growing up, was very difficult for me
growing up because I a I'm for those of you that are watching this and those of you
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listening.
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And so when I was first born, I was born with this albinism and it causes a lot of
problems with me and my family, as you could imagine, having two black parents.
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And then you being this albino person, so means I don't have a lot of melanin in my skin.
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And so early on in childhood, was very, I was thrown into, I guess you could say the fire
of dealing with people's judgment.
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I can remember in a very early age, my dad used to get stopped when we'd be at the grocery
store.
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And they would tell him things like, you know, my mom cheated on him.
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Like those aren't.
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not his real child, things of that kind of nature.
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So I was just giving that.
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viewpoint of the world very early in life.
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growing up with albinism is an easy thing.
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A lot of questions are asked, especially back then, before we have the technology we have
now.
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There was a lot of uncertainty.
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When I was very, very young in my childhood, doctors had basically told me that I would be
completely blind by the age of eight or nine.
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And they didn't think that I would even be alive at this point.
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I am now 34.
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it's just been an amazing, it's amazing story.
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And so I use this to encourage anybody that's going through like a struggle just on the
physical appearance side of having some kind of limitation that they feel like holds them
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back.
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know that this is, this is.
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One of the things that I dealt with early in life with that.
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So yeah, that was kind of like early childhood.
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You know, we all had those problems in school, right, with adapting socially.
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And mine was more adapting socially while understanding my own self.
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Because I didn't understand myself at that time.
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As a kid, I had no idea about.
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my pigmentation, my stigmatism in my eyes.
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Like I had to learn so many other things.
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So when I was a kid, all I really wanted to do was be normal.
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I just wanted to be treated.
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You know, I just wanted to have a normal childhood and at the time, again, it was early
and it was a lot of, not a lot of information about Albinism album.
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And so I was in a school for the gifted, right?
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And they were trying to teach me braille and this kind of thing.
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And I was like, no, I just want to be normal, right?
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I just wanted, you know, I just wanted to experience what a normal childhood was like.
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And I didn't get to do that.
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And so that kind of set me up for future events, should I say, foreshadow.
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about what was to come in my life because as much as I just wanted to be normal, it was
never meant for me to actually live a normal life, to say.
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And I'm sure other people have.
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I'm sure we can all relate to that, or we just want something that we see other people
have, and we realize that comparison is the thief of all joy.
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And what's...
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What's given for you is not meant for me, right?
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And what's meant for me is not given to anybody else.
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And it took me very, very long time to adapt to that, to understand that.
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So as I got older, my early nine year old, 10 year old, up until a traumatic turning point
in my life, it was really just a kind of, I was just floating through trying to.
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Mm-hmm.
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understand myself.
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I didn't have a lot of friends because it was just very hard, know, as a kid you just
having to explain to everybody you meet, hey, I have albinism and this albinism thing is
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it means that I'm, I lack melanin in my skin.
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You try to explain that to an eight or nine year old or six or seven year old, right?
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And they just gonna look at you like, what does that mean?
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And so it was very hard for me to even have friends when I was younger because there's so
many questions that I had to deal with.
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just became...
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It just became too much and I didn't maybe want to have friends.
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So I didn't really have friends.
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The only time I felt normal, to say normal, was when I was introduced to the game of
football.
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That was the only thing that I could remotely relate to.
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And so I cling to it.
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You find something, right, that gives you that joy, especially as a child, and we cling to
it, right?
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That's our...
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That's our one thing that we have.
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sure that people have other things, whether it be music or drawing or something like that.
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But I cling to that.
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That was my only thing that I had where I could actually then have friends because it
wasn't about my skin tone.
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It wasn't about all my limitations or the things that I had to deal with.
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It was about, you good at this particular sport?
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And that was all that was wrapped around it.
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That was kind of like my safe haven growing up as a child.
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It was the only thing I could have, you know.
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In school, I was bullied a lot, as you could imagine.
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And, you know, I had to learn very quickly that although words are best to defuse a
situation, and we should not seek out the violence, right?
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It comes to a point where I had to start defending myself because it was an everyday...
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occurrence of being bullied for my skin tone, for my parents being who they were, right?
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And especially being in an all-black school.
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When you're in an all-black school as a kid and you're this albino child.
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It can just be, it can be hard.
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And so that's kind of how my early childhood, what I experienced up until, up until 11,
when just everything in my life then shifted at that point.
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Yeah, so that age 11 for me was the hugest turning point in my life.
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That was the day, that was the year really that my entire life shifted.
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I'll never forget it.
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was February the 2nd, 2002.
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And that's the day that I lost my father.
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he was a great man.
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He was a helper.
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He was a leader among men.
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He's a dedicated father.
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He taught me everything that I know.
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Again, you don't know what people carry with them.
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You don't know their pain and their struggle that they carry with them unless you really
stop to ask.
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And that was something that I didn't even do as a son, right?
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Yeah, he he committed suicide.
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And I never got to really tell him goodbye.
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You know, I was a very young child at that age, so I wasn't really paying attention as a
child.
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Who would?
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You you're 11 years old.
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You don't really pay attention to those dark demons that your parents are facing.
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I remember he came into my room and he just gave me a hug and was like, I love you, son.
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And I was just.
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Being an 11 year old kid, you're wrapped up in whatever exciting new thing is in front of
you.
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So I just kind of paid it no attention.
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And was like, yeah, I love you too, dad.
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Well, I didn't really need to say I love you.
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I wish I did, but I did not.
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I actually was like, yeah, appreciate that.
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And I just went back and doing whatever I was doing.
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And I remember it was like two or three in the morning, and I get a knock.
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My mom gets a knock on the door, and it's two police officers.
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And they're like, are you the?
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wife of Carl Shivers and you know and I can remember just being in my in my bed.
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My brother was already he moved to he moved away he moved to East Tennessee at that point
by that time so it was just me my mom and I can remember just laying in the bed and I
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remember that the the feeling of you know that your entire world just changed in that
instant or you just can just you just know.
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Even though I was 11, could, yeah, just like snap of the finger.
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You just know like.
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It's like you just, your reality becomes a bad dream.
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And I remember at that point, I knew that I...
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I would never have my childhood back.
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So, and it took me a long time to even be able to speak about this.
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Like I remember very few fragments.
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They're like them fragmented memories until I was able to address it in therapy.
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Years, I mean, it me almost 20 something years to even address that whole entire
situation.
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But,
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Those three or four months after that period, I was thrust into a manhood completely.
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There will be times that I vividly, I can remember.
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I would have school at 6.30 in the morning, but the night before, I'm having to get my
mother off of the floor because she's completely drunk, right?
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And it's not that I don't blame her for anything.
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I she lost her entire world.
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And I personally can't imagine what she went through with that.
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so I don't blame her at all.
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right but it was that's that was my reality was I had to fix this I had to try to fix this
broken woman who just lost everything wow
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in a period of life where you're supposed to be exploring yourself, you're supposed to be
growing, you're supposed to be aging.
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And here I am trying to pick up the pieces with this, with my mom, as we try to navigate
the waters of...
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Losing our leader losing our rock losing our foundation and that was That was a hard time
and I know that In seeing how she adjusted to it.
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That was how I started to adjust to it Right seeing how she
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used alcohol to numb the pain is how I started to use alcohol to numb the pain.
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Right, because I had no time to honestly deal with it.
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You know, I still had to maintain my grades at school, right?
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I still had to navigate that and act like things were put together in my life still.
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when they clearly were not.
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And at age 11, going into that summer, that's when I started to walk down my own bad path.
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And that's when I started to smoke marijuana and I started to dabble in drinking because
it was like, that was my only escape.
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So, and then, you know, my life took another shift.
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because we moved to East Tennessee and we went from being in a predominantly all Blacks
area to being in a completely opposite area where it was predominantly Caucasians and
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there was only 13 Black kids.
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have 200, I'm sorry, I 2,000 kids, only 13 Black kids.
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So now I have nobody to relate to.
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have nobody to even speak to because
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A lot of these kids had two parent households and they had a good upbringing.
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While in my world, we don't really have a stable house at this point in time.
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I'm living with my aunt and I love my family.
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My family was tremendous in my upbringing.
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I couldn't imagine where I would be at in my life right now if I did not have family
support of my aunts and my uncles.
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They did their best to try to navigate me through that entire situation, but in my world,
I felt completely alone.
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In my world, it was not only am I dealing with the loss of my father, not understanding.
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what got so bad to make him want to take his own life.
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But now I also don't have anybody to help me with building my confidence or giving you
that reassurance of love when you're trying to become a man, when you're trying to do
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things right, when you're trying to.
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Excel like sports and you need that male figure To just be like son.
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You're doing a good job, right?
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How do I speak as a Navigating all that stuff.
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So I'm 13.
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Well, I'm 13 years old Trying to just fit into middle school, right?
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Again, just being having the albinism and
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Also not having to deal with my father.
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Alcohol and marijuana was my, that was my parents to me in my world.
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Like I said, my mom was trying to be there for me and she did a fantastic job with what
life had dealt her.
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But.
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In my world, it was...
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drink and smoke and that's what kept me able to just function without without like
breaking down.
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and as I grew older.
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It really became then my habit.
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So by age 16, I'm in sophomore year in high school.
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My day was, you know, I had football practice at six in the morning.
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So I would go to that.
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I'm out by 7.45.
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My first period was at 8.15.
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By eight o'clock, I have a 32 ounce cup of tea and vodka.
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drinking that and I've already smoked probably one joint or a blunt or something like that
and I would just go to class and I it wasn't it wasn't an issue of making me a bad student
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or whatever school was school came natural to me so in doing keeping my mind not sober
it's what kept me to get
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just at that point in time.
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It's just what kept me together.
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Because in the back of my mind it was, I don't want to be here.
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I don't fit in.
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My dad didn't love me.
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It was really the start of me self-hating myself.
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Because I took it as it was my fault.
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He couldn't take the blame.
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He couldn't take the judgment of his child being albino.
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And that's how I internalized it.
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Is it the truth?
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It's not.
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It's not the truth.
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But that's how I internalized it.
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I took that on.
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And, you know, and I'm like, look at my mom.
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She's falling apart.
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And there's nothing that I can do to help her.
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Right, I took that on.
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That wasn't the truth, that wasn't the reality.
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But again, when you're a child and you come home and there's no lights on in the house,
because she couldn't afford to pay the rent, or she couldn't afford to pay the light bill,
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and now you're left with two choices, like, do I stay in this dark house and live with
candles, or do I leave, or what do I do?
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And so, in my mind,
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It was, I gotta do something.
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So I started to hustle.
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I started to turn down the path of no resistance, as a lot of people would say.
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And so I began to, you know, hustle anyway I could and do whatever I had to do so that I
can help keep lights on in my house.
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Right?
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I could help pay the water bill so I could take a shower after.
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long day of practice in school, right?
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Then it became a situation where now you're adding stress, right?
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You're adding stress onto a 16, 17 year old kid.
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You're adding stress onto his life.
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Now I'm not only having to deal with picking up pieces, being albino, dealing with that,
trying to...
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Also being made in my house, now let's add on, okay, now you wanna help pay some bills.
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So I mean by 18, sorry, by 17, this is right before I graduated high school.
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I mean now I'm not even going to class sometimes.
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By 12 o'clock I'm.
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Yeah.
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I'm well into drinking half a bottle of liquor.
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and my life was just out of control.
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mean,
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I mean, just it got to a point where I was.
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I was counterfeiting money just to make sure.
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that I had extra money so that I could hand it to my mother and be like, mama, I can help
you pay these bills.
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And all while doing that, somehow, thank God, I was able to still graduate high school,
succeed in sports enough to earn a scholarship.
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This just goes to show you how far you don't know how out of control your life is until
it's too late.
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I had opportunity to go play at my dream school, the school I've always wanted to go play
at.
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I had a full scholarship ride to pay for that school.
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And I was so lost that I got there and I squandered it completely away.
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I didn't even last a semester because my habits were the same.
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I'm still a
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waking up, drinking, smoking, and then trying to operate my life.
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And when you get to college, you can't do that.
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You can't do that at all.
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And so I was there for one semester.
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My GPA went from a 3.4 to a 1.5, I think, or 1.3 or something like that.
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And so by the age of 18,
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I was already dropping out of college.
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And I'm just like, look at your life.
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And it didn't really help a lot that I had a relationship at that time.
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And that was my first real experience with bigotry and racism.
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And the person I was, her family did not like that I was black when they finally figured
out that I was black.
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Because a lot of times being in a predominantly white area and being out by no, it got to
the point where I just was like, if they know, they know, if they don't, they'll just call
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me whatever.
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So I just gave up at that point, right?
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So they just thought I was white for the longest time until they realized I had black
parents.
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And once they found that out, obviously they didn't that relationship to continue.
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And so they did what they felt necessary to do to make sure it didn't continue.
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And at the time...
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being young and dumb, we were in the process of having a child in which they took that
away from me.
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And so that sent me down the worst spiral of my life because again, I took that on as
blame, I was sick.
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I was sick.
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I took that on as that's my fault.
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Right, I took it on as my fault.
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And then in doing that, I introduced myself to pills.
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So now I'm adding in that and I wasn't a...
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I just knew that at that point that that started something really bad.
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And that pushed me to the point of...
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trying to take my life.
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That was my first attempt at trying to take my life because it just got too heavy.
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It got too heavy for me.
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I had no direction.
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I dropped out of school.
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I lost the so-called relationship.
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And I couldn't find, I felt, I felt what my father felt, if that makes sense.
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And so I remember it's winter time in Virginia, in the mountains.
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It's no, it's no joke to say.
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It's very, very cold.
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It's very, very cold.
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I mean, you can get to below, you know, freezing outside.
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And I'm feeling how I'm feeling.
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My family can't get in touch with me.
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Cause back then we didn't have like, I don't, I don't believe iPhones were created at that
point in time.
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don't really know, but I know I had a flip phone.
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So there was no GPS tracking me.
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And I'm in Virginia, which I was like three or four hours away from my family.
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And it got to the point where I was so sick in the head.
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I just said, I give up.
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I give up.
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And I remember I got really drunk and I took five lower tabs at that time.
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And I just walked.
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And I was just walking.
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And I can remember I just sat down somewhere and I gave up.
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I literally just gave up and
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I don't know who found me.
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don't really remember, but I woke up in the hospital and I had hypothermia.
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Right.
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And.
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It was tough because that was my first point where I was like...
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Wow, this is you're at.
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This is where you're at in your life.
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But I didn't learn anything from that.
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I was just angry.
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I was just angry and I was just pissed off and I was lost.
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so again, that led to me obviously dropping out.
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That was the last straw.
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came back home and...
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You know when you get a sign about something, God will send you, He'll send you people in
your life.
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And if you don't pay attention to those people that He sends in your life, you miss the
boat.
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You'll miss the blessing.
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Yeah.
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And I almost missed that boat.
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can remember, you know, back at home, people didn't know anything about my situation.
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So I felt I still was a quote unquote legend at my school, right?
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I'd done all these amazing things and people had no clue what was going on.
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So I came back to a game and I am, I mean like I am, I'm past belligerent and I can
remember this one man.
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He knew who I was, but did not know who he was.
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And all he said to me was, you know, just hello.
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That's it.
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And in my drunken stupor, I'm talking to this guy who I didn't realize he would be one of
the biggest mentors in my life.
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And I'm just like, yeah, what's up?
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And I kept him moving.
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And I mentioned that story because he later became...
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the person that led me to the Lord and really got me out of a dark place I was in my life.
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Because as that time will go forward, again, I'm 19, dropped out of school, I got nothing
going on for me.
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I found myself, I ended up going to jail.
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So I ended up going to jail.
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the most sobering day of my life was Mother's Day, 2009.
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My mom had to be in a jail to see me.
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And then she had to travel an hour and 30 minutes to go see my brother who was in jail as
well.
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And I never will forget having to, I couldn't even hug her.
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I couldn't touch her.
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couldn't, I couldn't nothing.
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was just looking through a glass window.
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I happened to tell my mom.
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happy Mother's Day and it's like what is is happy about that day for her?
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Both her sons are in jail.
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just have, there's nothing happy about that day.
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And I will never forgive myself for that day.
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And that's when I really tried to start to get my life back together.
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I did get out, got back in school, started playing basketball in college.
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but I just didn't learn.
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You get motivated for a while and motivation while important, it's fleeting.
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So if you have no discipline, eventually that motivation is going to fade.
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then that's when the discipline is supposed to take over.
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as I repeatedly say a lot.
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You are what you repeatedly do.
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Therefore, anything, mostly anything, it's not a choice, but it's a habit.
353
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and my habit was every day when pressure hits, when things got tough, when my life got
busy.
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Where's that joint at?
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Where's that hit of marijuana at?
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Where's that liquor at?
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So on the outside, I'm in school, I'm doing well.
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I have my own apartment at this point in time.
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and I'm right back in the same thing I was doing in high school.
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You and it's not, you think like it's something mature because as you get, as we get
older, you can manage it a little better, but you don't.
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You don't.
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so now I'm in my twenties, right?
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I'm in my twenties and I'm starting to figure things out.
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I'm starting to understand that I have something special that I can do with my life.
365
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But the only thing that's stopping me is me.
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And so now you're trying to navigate, how do I overcome my situation?
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I have yet to still deal with my dad at this point in time.
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It's been going for 10 years and I've yet to shed one tear about it.
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And so I, as I continue to get older, I think it was about 21, it was the first time I
actually cried about it.
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That was a huge release for me because I had to finally admit that it wasn't my fault.
371
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You would think out of all the people in the world telling you it's not your fault, you
don't really believe it until you are ready to accept it.
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right until you decide and that's the beautiful thing about acceptance.
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Once you decide to accept.
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you're ready to start growing.
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And so that was the first time I really accepted that he's gone.
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And it's not my fault.
377
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It wasn't my fault.
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And it was nothing that I really could do about it.
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And it was in that moment, when I started accepting that, I lifted some burdens.
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I'll live to some burdens.
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And my life got a little bit better.
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I still had problems.
383
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I still had some horrible habits.
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But in that moment, I found myself getting just a little bit closer to...
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healing myself.
386
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And so as I got older, I think I'm about 24, 25ish, I graduated, you know, and I...
387
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At this point in time, my drinking and...
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habits weren't because of the pressure now.
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It started to just like I said earlier comparison is a thief of all joy.
390
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And so now I in my dark in my dark moments, I'm self hating myself because I wasn't where
other people who are 24 or 25 where they were in life.
391
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Right?
392
00:31:16,414 --> 00:31:22,430
So while I beat one demon, I another demons coming at me and now and now I'm starting to
393
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Yeah.
394
00:31:22,966 --> 00:31:29,340
I'm starting to just see myself as losing because I'm, yes, I've graduated.
395
00:31:29,340 --> 00:31:31,001
Yes, I have a master's degree.
396
00:31:31,001 --> 00:31:34,833
Yes, I'm doing certain things, but I don't have a car.
397
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Right.
398
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I can't drive at this point in time.
399
00:31:39,145 --> 00:31:46,280
You know, they didn't, they didn't have anything that could help people with albinism
because our vision is so borderline bad.
400
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They don't think that they didn't think they can have anything to help us drive.
401
00:31:50,403 --> 00:31:53,665
And at this point in time, again, I'm in school.
402
00:31:53,725 --> 00:32:06,392
I'm doing all these amazing things, but what I was told as a young child, I had to go back
to this, what I was told as a young child, the only thing that I would ever be able to do
403
00:32:06,392 --> 00:32:09,695
in life was to be a dishwasher.
404
00:32:10,656 --> 00:32:15,150
Because I didn't think that I could do anything else because of my eyesight.
405
00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:25,643
and as much as it it pissed me off it fired me up because it was like how dare you tell me
that that's all you think I can be in my life is that
406
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I'd gone through all these things and I had dropped the ball.
407
00:32:30,017 --> 00:32:31,158
Dropped the ball with sports.
408
00:32:31,158 --> 00:32:32,479
I dropped the with football.
409
00:32:32,479 --> 00:32:33,579
I couldn't...
410
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,723
I was the late bloomer in basketball, so that was gone.
411
00:32:38,084 --> 00:32:42,246
I dropped the ball with becoming...
412
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The one thing at that point I was like, well, I could be a teacher or something, right?
413
00:32:47,692 --> 00:32:50,645
Because that doesn't require a lot to do with your eyes.
414
00:32:50,645 --> 00:32:52,646
But I dropped the ball because...
415
00:32:52,774 --> 00:32:55,254
You know, now I had a record.
416
00:32:55,254 --> 00:33:03,234
So I couldn't, I wouldn't accept it into the program because I had a record and I was at a
Christian school at that point in time.
417
00:33:04,174 --> 00:33:07,284
you know, so again, I dropped the ball.
418
00:33:07,284 --> 00:33:08,963
So now that's why I got to that point.
419
00:33:08,963 --> 00:33:12,294
And I was like, man, I screwed up everything.
420
00:33:12,294 --> 00:33:14,594
Maybe I am going to be a dishwasher.
421
00:33:14,594 --> 00:33:17,214
At this point in time, I working at a restaurant.
422
00:33:17,214 --> 00:33:18,454
I was a waiter.
423
00:33:18,994 --> 00:33:21,444
So I was only one, I was only.
424
00:33:21,444 --> 00:33:25,398
five steps away from that dishwasher, right?
425
00:33:25,959 --> 00:33:28,813
So I'm looking, I'm just looking at my lifeline.
426
00:33:28,813 --> 00:33:30,733
This is what it's come to.
427
00:33:32,254 --> 00:33:42,557
And I was in a very dark place when I was 25 because I had, on the inside, I hadn't given
up.
428
00:33:42,557 --> 00:33:44,557
I hadn't given up completely.
429
00:33:48,098 --> 00:33:50,629
my best friends in my time, had no idea.
430
00:33:50,629 --> 00:33:58,111
I'm seemingly put together, but this was my life.
431
00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:10,075
I literally could wake up out of my room and walk out of my room and I could walk into my
living room and any point in time in life I would, that day, I'm sorry, I would either see
432
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two or $3,000 on the table or I'd see two or three pounds of marijuana on the table.
433
00:34:17,281 --> 00:34:22,404
I was living with a drug dealer because that was the quickest access I could have to it.
434
00:34:22,404 --> 00:34:25,396
Now I may have told him,
435
00:34:25,888 --> 00:34:27,328
Hey, but I'm helping you out.
436
00:34:27,328 --> 00:34:28,418
You need a place to stay.
437
00:34:28,418 --> 00:34:29,788
I got you.
438
00:34:29,788 --> 00:34:30,468
Right?
439
00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:37,128
So on the outside, it's like, you're doing a good deed despite this guy's whatever you're
doing.
440
00:34:37,388 --> 00:34:42,468
In my mind, it was, no, that's my access.
441
00:34:42,928 --> 00:34:44,348
Now I don't have to pay for it.
442
00:34:44,348 --> 00:34:46,568
Now I can just smoke whenever I want.
443
00:34:46,908 --> 00:34:54,328
Now you're talking about, I mean, there's days on times that I smoked all day.
444
00:34:54,617 --> 00:34:55,068
Mm.
445
00:34:55,068 --> 00:35:03,371
And wow, some people believe that it has these benefits and this and that and this and
that, whatever.
446
00:35:04,112 --> 00:35:06,833
It doesn't stop the fact it's killing your brain cells.
447
00:35:06,833 --> 00:35:08,474
You're not sober minded.
448
00:35:08,474 --> 00:35:12,195
You're not thinking correctly.
449
00:35:12,876 --> 00:35:13,847
And that was me.
450
00:35:13,847 --> 00:35:29,190
And I mean like, I mean there was points, they would have anything from cocaine, I see, I
was involved in so much stuff.
451
00:35:29,752 --> 00:35:40,691
I didn't get that level to do cocaine, but I sure didn't stop people from doing it right
there in my countertop, on my table, in my room, in my bathroom, I didn't stop nobody.
452
00:35:41,637 --> 00:35:45,297
So I might as well have been contributing to it.
453
00:35:46,657 --> 00:35:50,361
It got so bad with people trying to...
454
00:35:50,361 --> 00:35:52,268
They were trying to rob my house.
455
00:35:52,268 --> 00:35:55,641
And again, I'm like, this is what I'm living with.
456
00:35:56,303 --> 00:35:58,184
This is what's in my house.
457
00:35:58,986 --> 00:36:03,531
And I was in my second relationship at that time.
458
00:36:03,712 --> 00:36:09,447
And I can remember, I got to a point where was like, she wanted nothing to do with it.
459
00:36:09,447 --> 00:36:11,131
I you need to choose.
460
00:36:11,317 --> 00:36:11,711
Mm-hmm.
461
00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:12,567
and
462
00:36:12,578 --> 00:36:15,686
I can't remember this how dark it got.
463
00:36:16,671 --> 00:36:20,582
had, I got to a point in life where
464
00:36:20,582 --> 00:36:26,797
I was just self-hating myself so much that I tried to kill myself again.
465
00:36:26,797 --> 00:36:28,363
I had skipped work.
466
00:36:29,084 --> 00:36:30,494
You know, I skipped work.
467
00:36:30,494 --> 00:36:46,594
I had the whole house to myself and I remember I took a bottle of aspirin and I 12
aspirins and I laid there in my bed and I was ready to go.
468
00:36:46,594 --> 00:36:51,314
And it got so bad to me because I felt defeated.
469
00:36:51,354 --> 00:36:53,454
I felt completely defeated.
470
00:36:54,294 --> 00:36:56,171
I had lost.
471
00:36:56,171 --> 00:36:59,851
I had lost my will to keep pushing forward.
472
00:36:59,951 --> 00:37:05,451
I was looking at life like it was a mountain I couldn't climb.
473
00:37:06,031 --> 00:37:10,291
I wasn't where I wanted to be.
474
00:37:10,291 --> 00:37:15,002
And I had in my mind felt that I couldn't get anywhere forward.
475
00:37:15,002 --> 00:37:17,162
I felt stuck.
476
00:37:17,302 --> 00:37:22,869
I felt like life had became too much to handle.
477
00:37:22,869 --> 00:37:29,624
You know, wasn't, I just wasn't in the right, I wasn't in the right, I wasn't in the right
mind.
478
00:37:30,445 --> 00:37:47,758
And I'm sure that a lot of people, we go through things in life that where you want to be
something successful, you want to be something good, and you're not ready for life's
479
00:37:47,758 --> 00:37:48,859
punches.
480
00:37:49,528 --> 00:37:53,034
The more successful you want to be, the harder life's going to try to knock you down.
481
00:37:53,034 --> 00:37:54,488
and it's going to try to hold you back.
482
00:37:54,488 --> 00:37:56,343
And if you're not...
483
00:37:56,343 --> 00:38:02,055
right-minded, right, to handle those experiences, it can beat you down.
484
00:38:02,055 --> 00:38:04,937
And I was at a point where life had beat me down.
485
00:38:04,937 --> 00:38:13,140
It had just beat me down mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually.
486
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,441
It beat me down.
487
00:38:16,401 --> 00:38:20,143
And I was at that point where I just said, forget it.
488
00:38:21,223 --> 00:38:22,444
I'm over it.
489
00:38:22,884 --> 00:38:25,157
I lost my relationship.
490
00:38:25,157 --> 00:38:27,457
I lost my job.
491
00:38:27,817 --> 00:38:36,877
I was coaching at a college, the college I went to, and I lost that.
492
00:38:37,337 --> 00:38:53,317
I wasn't, again, my bad habits of partying and drinking and smoking were catching up to me
in my master's program where I was one credit shy of getting my master's and doing a
493
00:38:53,317 --> 00:38:55,206
24 month program in 10 months.
494
00:38:55,206 --> 00:38:57,458
but my habits and so.
495
00:38:57,458 --> 00:38:58,589
I gave it up.
496
00:38:58,589 --> 00:38:59,899
I really gave it up.
497
00:38:59,899 --> 00:39:00,760
I called my mom.
498
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,273
was like, mom, I'm just, I love you.
499
00:39:04,273 --> 00:39:06,674
And I'm not sure what that did to her.
500
00:39:06,888 --> 00:39:15,278
mean, those same words that her husband told her, know, here her son is trying to tell her
that.
501
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:18,441
And she had no clue, but.
502
00:39:18,441 --> 00:39:21,092
Again, God sends you angels.
503
00:39:21,153 --> 00:39:27,638
Even sometimes those angels aren't who they who you would think they are, who you want
them to be.
504
00:39:27,638 --> 00:39:27,959
Right.
505
00:39:27,959 --> 00:39:36,883
But he'll send somebody and he he sent my boy Malcolm as my best friend to this day.
506
00:39:36,884 --> 00:39:42,057
We grew up basketball together, all that stuff in college and he we were working together.
507
00:39:42,057 --> 00:39:43,968
And at that time, I don't know.
508
00:39:44,289 --> 00:39:47,471
To this day, I don't know what made him.
509
00:39:48,003 --> 00:40:01,663
leave work because we work together but I didn't show up and I don't know what made him
leave but you know he came and knocked on my door and obviously my door was locked I
510
00:40:01,663 --> 00:40:12,363
locked my door that's how that's how serious I was with this I was like nobody's gonna be
able to get in till it's too late and my guy climbed on the roof of my apartment and broke
511
00:40:12,363 --> 00:40:13,390
in through my window
512
00:40:13,390 --> 00:40:16,219
And if he didn't do that, I wouldn't be here talking to you.
513
00:40:16,219 --> 00:40:21,963
And that was my turning point in my life.
514
00:40:21,963 --> 00:40:23,475
That was it for me.
515
00:40:23,617 --> 00:40:24,730
I realized like...
516
00:40:24,730 --> 00:40:26,738
I can't be a victim anymore.
517
00:40:26,738 --> 00:40:28,903
I gotta stop being a victim.
518
00:40:29,107 --> 00:40:31,573
I gotta do something about this.
519
00:40:32,604 --> 00:40:43,538
That's that was a turning point where I decided to get my life on track I'm gonna say
right because I came later on but That age 26 is where it started to shift for me that's
520
00:40:43,538 --> 00:40:58,002
why I started to gain my superpower because I could I realized like I Can overcome this
right I gave I gave power back to myself when you give power back to yourself
521
00:40:58,642 --> 00:41:03,940
you unlocks all the potential that life really wants to give you.
522
00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:07,936
If you let it beat you down, it's gonna beat you down, but the second you decide to fight
back...
523
00:41:07,936 --> 00:41:10,317
it's gonna open doors up for you.
524
00:41:11,217 --> 00:41:13,537
And that's what happened for me.
525
00:41:14,558 --> 00:41:18,739
I got sober, I stopped.
526
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,760
I limited a lot of things that I was doing.
527
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,502
And really, honestly, truly, for about eight months, I quit everything.
528
00:41:27,502 --> 00:41:36,714
I rededicated myself to my fitness, my health, my spirituality, and I got myself right.
529
00:41:37,122 --> 00:41:41,753
I went back to school, graduated with my masters.
530
00:41:43,674 --> 00:41:46,715
I started a prep school as a basketball coach.
531
00:41:47,295 --> 00:41:59,830
even, I, and I started to figure out ways that I could use my albinism to my benefit.
532
00:42:00,630 --> 00:42:04,372
And I found, had to go and find this doctor.
533
00:42:04,372 --> 00:42:05,793
He's a great doctor.
534
00:42:05,793 --> 00:42:16,982
I found this doctor, you know, we I told him what I wanted to talk about Hey, I want to
drive I need to drive And so he helped me to get that so now I'm Right.
535
00:42:17,982 --> 00:42:30,544
It something I thought I never would do in my life And and I and I just I hit this high
and it was like wow I'm actually as a first time I could feel that I was alive not living
536
00:42:30,544 --> 00:42:32,605
because we're all living
537
00:42:32,769 --> 00:42:35,429
but very few of us are alive.
538
00:42:36,309 --> 00:42:47,509
A great saying that stuck with me for a long time was, most people die at age 25 and
they're buried at 75.
539
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:48,666
Meaning,
540
00:42:48,666 --> 00:42:53,391
You might be living, but you're no longer alive because you're dead inside.
541
00:42:53,391 --> 00:42:54,372
Your dreams are gone.
542
00:42:54,372 --> 00:42:56,543
You've given up on your dreams.
543
00:42:56,543 --> 00:42:58,020
You're not living with any hope.
544
00:42:58,020 --> 00:42:59,176
You're not living with any faith.
545
00:42:59,176 --> 00:43:08,075
You're not living with any courage or confidence because you're working, working, working
paycheck to paycheck.
546
00:43:08,896 --> 00:43:11,640
And you've forgotten what dreaming is about.
547
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,304
And I found that again by age 26.
548
00:43:14,304 --> 00:43:18,669
I moved to Atlanta.
549
00:43:21,014 --> 00:43:25,271
I began to really put myself in great positions.
550
00:43:25,271 --> 00:43:32,691
got back into coaching college, I started the whole entire AU program.
551
00:43:33,631 --> 00:43:38,491
And I shared my experiences with my players.
552
00:43:38,491 --> 00:43:44,251
And I started to see that I could change lives.
553
00:43:44,471 --> 00:43:46,898
I could do something good in this world.
554
00:43:46,898 --> 00:43:51,541
And I was able to help shift a lot of kids' lives.
555
00:43:51,582 --> 00:43:59,908
And you don't know how sobering that is for you when you have responsibilities that are
bigger than yourself.
556
00:44:00,569 --> 00:44:01,510
They're bigger than you.
557
00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:05,172
Like, these kids are looking up to me, right?
558
00:44:05,473 --> 00:44:12,749
So there was two players of mine in particular who just gravitated to me.
559
00:44:13,610 --> 00:44:15,061
They were adopted.
560
00:44:15,447 --> 00:44:25,943
And so immediately when I found that out, I thought back to my childhood, like how that
must felt if they're adopted because they don't really know their true parents and
561
00:44:25,943 --> 00:44:30,654
whatnot, but yet they're thrust into this whole different world.
562
00:44:31,254 --> 00:44:37,576
And for a long time, I felt like I was just thrust into this whole new world.
563
00:44:37,576 --> 00:44:40,197
I'm Albino, so I couldn't relate to anybody.
564
00:44:41,853 --> 00:44:45,183
I'll honest, I don't see racism because I got it from both sides.
565
00:44:45,183 --> 00:44:48,613
Black people that made front of me, white people that made front of me.
566
00:44:48,613 --> 00:44:55,704
So I related to them to a point where I like, I looked at them like my own children
because...
567
00:44:55,704 --> 00:44:57,607
We both grew up in that spot.
568
00:44:57,607 --> 00:44:58,810
We didn't have nothing.
569
00:44:58,810 --> 00:45:02,185
And I could share my life with them.
570
00:45:02,185 --> 00:45:07,085
And then I was able to make an impact in their life.
571
00:45:07,085 --> 00:45:10,985
And that really pushed me to get my stuff together.
572
00:45:13,405 --> 00:45:17,005
So I'm like 32 at this point in time in my life.
573
00:45:17,425 --> 00:45:24,765
And I was really, really, really trying to get my stuff together.
574
00:45:24,885 --> 00:45:26,500
And I was doing very well.
575
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:34,844
But you don't identify your triggers, you don't open up to you and deal with your bad
habits.
576
00:45:35,787 --> 00:45:37,760
They eventually catch up with you.
577
00:45:38,053 --> 00:45:38,827
Yep.
578
00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:46,775
And while I was limiting my bad habits, I still had not dealt with those bad habits.
579
00:45:46,876 --> 00:45:52,961
You know, it's like, how can you change the tires on your car, right?
580
00:45:52,961 --> 00:45:57,715
Rotate the tires, change the brakes, but you don't change your rotors.
581
00:45:57,715 --> 00:46:03,210
You know, you're not going to, your car is still going to be running bad.
582
00:46:03,210 --> 00:46:10,330
If I change the oil but I don't change the oil filter, it's still going to be producing
bad oil.
583
00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:12,890
My car is not going to run correctly.
584
00:46:13,350 --> 00:46:16,910
And eventually it's going to catch up.
585
00:46:17,530 --> 00:46:20,590
And that's what happened to me.
586
00:46:20,590 --> 00:46:24,870
It eventually caught up to me.
587
00:46:26,437 --> 00:46:38,364
Until I dealt with it fully like I had to take time to address it not Not just clean it up
and shove it under the rug Right now just pick up around it.
588
00:46:38,364 --> 00:46:53,744
No, no, you have to address Everything you can't just pick and choose the traumas and the
pains And the bandages in the wounds that you want to address You gotta address it all
589
00:46:53,744 --> 00:46:58,524
And so when I was 32, I went to go see my brother.
590
00:46:58,584 --> 00:47:05,224
It was our friend's birthday and I, at this point I was not, I wasn't drinking huge, but I
was still smoking.
591
00:47:05,224 --> 00:47:06,094
I was still smoking.
592
00:47:06,094 --> 00:47:09,624
That was my one thing was when I'm stressed, I'm smoking.
593
00:47:09,624 --> 00:47:11,564
When I'm happy, I'm smoking.
594
00:47:11,764 --> 00:47:12,794
When I'm sad, I'm smoking.
595
00:47:12,794 --> 00:47:13,804
When I'm bored, I'm smoking.
596
00:47:13,804 --> 00:47:15,824
When I'm celebrating, I'm smoking.
597
00:47:15,824 --> 00:47:19,384
And that was my bad, that was still part of my bad habit.
598
00:47:20,104 --> 00:47:22,852
And on that,
599
00:47:22,852 --> 00:47:24,094
Particular night.
600
00:47:24,094 --> 00:47:25,697
This is how God works.
601
00:47:25,697 --> 00:47:28,591
This is how God works on that particular night.
602
00:47:28,591 --> 00:47:34,420
I did not smoke And all I had was one glass of wine With this how God works.
603
00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:37,075
I shouldn't have been dropping right
604
00:47:37,075 --> 00:47:47,689
And I remember prior to that, prior to that night, I had a conversation with God and I was
like, listen, God, I want to become complete.
605
00:47:47,689 --> 00:47:49,472
Help me to become complete.
606
00:47:49,472 --> 00:47:54,532
And in my mind, it wasn't about the drinking or smoking.
607
00:47:54,532 --> 00:47:56,219
For me, it was more about.
608
00:47:56,219 --> 00:48:00,848
The more darker side of my addictions, right?
609
00:48:00,848 --> 00:48:04,645
The reasons behind my addictions, like why am I turning to...
610
00:48:04,645 --> 00:48:08,471
the things that I'm doing when I'm stressed.
611
00:48:08,471 --> 00:48:10,514
Why can't I turn to you, God?
612
00:48:10,535 --> 00:48:11,878
That was my conversation.
613
00:48:11,878 --> 00:48:18,793
And his response was simple, well if you want my help, this is what we're gonna do.
614
00:48:18,914 --> 00:48:21,556
I'm gonna get you stopped at a checkpoint.
615
00:48:22,257 --> 00:48:25,759
And I told the officer he asked me if I had a drink.
616
00:48:25,759 --> 00:48:27,692
I said, yeah, had a glass of wine.
617
00:48:27,692 --> 00:48:34,529
Story goes on, regardless of the fact, I'm arrested that night because...
618
00:48:34,529 --> 00:48:36,502
I was under the influence.
619
00:48:36,502 --> 00:48:40,485
Regardless if I passed, all the other stuff doesn't matter.
620
00:48:40,646 --> 00:48:47,223
It was the fact that to me, it wasn't even about the arrest or anything.
621
00:48:47,223 --> 00:48:53,590
It was more about I said that I wanted to help, and this is how I had to get that help.
622
00:48:54,118 --> 00:48:54,933
Mm-hmm.
623
00:48:55,896 --> 00:48:59,851
And my next step was I went to therapy right after that.
624
00:48:59,932 --> 00:49:01,853
I had to go to therapy.
625
00:49:02,175 --> 00:49:07,373
I had to finally open up an address.
626
00:49:07,373 --> 00:49:08,744
I had to address my father.
627
00:49:08,744 --> 00:49:10,915
I had to address those feelings.
628
00:49:11,776 --> 00:49:20,091
I had to admit to myself that I suffered from suicidal thoughts because that's all I knew.
629
00:49:20,091 --> 00:49:26,896
When things got too hard in my life, the most important person in my life chose to exit my
life.
630
00:49:26,896 --> 00:49:33,078
And so that was what I thought that you were supposed to do when life got too hard.
631
00:49:33,078 --> 00:49:34,760
I had to address that.
632
00:49:35,262 --> 00:49:37,147
I had to address that.
633
00:49:37,147 --> 00:49:53,706
The reason why I was drinking and smoking and partying and running is because I did not
have a good system to deal with pressure, to deal with...
634
00:49:53,706 --> 00:49:56,734
anxiety and your fears and your doubts.
635
00:49:56,734 --> 00:50:07,745
I had self-hatred against my own self because I wasn't willing to accept that I'm unique
and I'm different.
636
00:50:07,745 --> 00:50:11,319
So I turned to trying to self-destruct.
637
00:50:11,780 --> 00:50:18,811
And I started look back at every mistake I made in my life, every regret that I once had.
638
00:50:18,811 --> 00:50:33,756
It was all because I was self-destructing because I was holding on to traumas and pains
and these fears, these things that aren't even real that I had made up in my mind.
639
00:50:33,756 --> 00:50:41,274
I was holding on to them and it was causing me to be over emotional, to act out.
640
00:50:41,694 --> 00:50:44,605
We just do and live this life that just wasn't.
641
00:50:45,289 --> 00:50:47,482
who you really want to truly be on the inside.
642
00:50:47,482 --> 00:50:53,849
And when you start to do that over enough time, you start to self hate.
643
00:50:54,071 --> 00:51:01,419
You start to run from your own reflection because you don't know that person.
644
00:51:03,834 --> 00:51:08,694
drinking so much that I didn't even recognize the person I was in the mirror.
645
00:51:08,934 --> 00:51:14,434
As a matter of fact, it got to a point where I would brush my teeth in the shower.
646
00:51:14,454 --> 00:51:17,567
I would shave in the shower just so I didn't have to look at myself.
647
00:51:17,567 --> 00:51:27,416
You know, so I eventually got to the point where I could address those things.
648
00:51:27,416 --> 00:51:28,868
And it was like a...
649
00:51:28,868 --> 00:51:31,611
weight this had been lifted off my shoulders.
650
00:51:31,611 --> 00:51:47,767
That's what I tell people, you know, when I'm coaching guys or I'm mentoring players and
athletes or anything, I tell them like, you can't walk around with weighted burdens on you
651
00:51:48,208 --> 00:51:52,293
because eventually they're gonna make you crumble.
652
00:51:52,293 --> 00:51:54,065
And I was a victim of that.
653
00:51:54,065 --> 00:52:06,622
And when that happens, because we all face something in life that bring us to our knees
with it, we all do, whether we admit it or not, you only have two options and that's to
654
00:52:06,622 --> 00:52:12,034
either address it, accept it, admit it and move on.
655
00:52:12,835 --> 00:52:22,871
Or you can continue to stay there and be a victim of whatever it is that's keeping you
there, whether it's your situations, your circumstances, things that's not in your
656
00:52:22,871 --> 00:52:23,881
control.
657
00:52:24,489 --> 00:52:26,609
And I was one of those people.
658
00:52:26,729 --> 00:52:31,940
I was going down a path in my life where I literally was going to let...
659
00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:38,014
Things that just weren't in my, I couldn't control that I was born with albinism.
660
00:52:38,014 --> 00:52:42,587
I could not control that my dad made a decision to walk out of my life.
661
00:52:42,587 --> 00:52:43,969
I could not control.
662
00:52:43,969 --> 00:52:44,810
those things.
663
00:52:44,810 --> 00:52:51,166
couldn't control the environment that I lived in, but I could control how I responded to
it.
664
00:52:51,166 --> 00:52:55,821
And it took me almost 24 years to learn how to do that.
665
00:52:55,821 --> 00:52:56,693
Right?
666
00:52:56,797 --> 00:53:00,406
Took me three suicide attempts in my life to learn how to do that.
667
00:53:00,406 --> 00:53:10,670
to just be able to accept now that and be proud that I'm Albano, I'm different.
668
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:20,044
To be proud that I'm three years, I'm sorry, two years sober from not drinking and not
smoking.
669
00:53:20,044 --> 00:53:28,763
to be proud that I know my Lord and Savior and I have a thriving relationship with Him.
670
00:53:29,204 --> 00:53:33,484
These are things that I wouldn't admit 15 years ago.
671
00:53:33,484 --> 00:53:36,984
These things I wouldn't admit seven years ago.
672
00:53:39,084 --> 00:53:41,000
And they're sobering.
673
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,416
They're sobering to my life.
674
00:53:43,416 --> 00:53:46,686
saved my life, quite frankly.
675
00:53:46,686 --> 00:53:48,259
It really saved my life.
676
00:53:48,484 --> 00:53:50,195
That is a remarkable story.
677
00:53:50,195 --> 00:53:50,616
you.
678
00:53:50,616 --> 00:53:53,538
is really, yeah, that's a roller coaster.
679
00:53:53,538 --> 00:53:55,006
That really, really is.
680
00:53:55,006 --> 00:54:01,354
You've touched on everything, I think, to be honest, absolutely everything.
681
00:54:01,826 --> 00:54:11,322
And yeah, it does come down to valuing yourself, loving yourself and yeah, you are unique.
682
00:54:11,703 --> 00:54:12,724
I am unique.
683
00:54:12,724 --> 00:54:13,960
Everyone's unique.
684
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:19,952
you know, that comparison is the thief of joy.
685
00:54:19,952 --> 00:54:21,369
It is everything like that.
686
00:54:21,369 --> 00:54:24,442
It's just not worth the effort.
687
00:54:24,442 --> 00:54:29,845
as you said, you've got to find that dark point where you actually realize that you are
worth it.
688
00:54:30,047 --> 00:54:36,524
where your desire to live is more important than everything else that's piling up.
689
00:54:36,524 --> 00:54:40,970
you know, I think, I think what you've done is fantastic.
690
00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:44,473
And I think that story is really, really remarkable.
691
00:54:44,473 --> 00:54:46,115
So I really appreciate you sharing that.
692
00:54:46,115 --> 00:54:47,026
Thank you.
693
00:54:47,734 --> 00:55:04,940
Man it's it's no it's it's not that I thank you so much for having me and again to share
the story but again, you know once you Are once you accept all those pains and things that
694
00:55:04,940 --> 00:55:14,718
happen in your life just like I did Like I said acceptance is the foundation for growth
and when you do that
695
00:55:15,156 --> 00:55:19,359
you allow yourself to be opened up, right?
696
00:55:19,362 --> 00:55:21,700
And now you can start to change your habits.
697
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:28,723
And I think that that's where so many of us struggle with is our habits.
698
00:55:28,723 --> 00:55:33,545
A lot of it is not conscious.
699
00:55:33,545 --> 00:55:35,466
A lot of it is subconscious.
700
00:55:35,806 --> 00:55:37,727
Just like in your story.
701
00:55:37,727 --> 00:55:47,050
know that when you were struggling with your addiction, a lot of it was just so much habit
over time.
702
00:55:47,111 --> 00:55:53,933
It's hard to admit, like, I could just break this 20-year habit I've been drinking all my
life.
703
00:55:53,933 --> 00:55:58,115
It's not that easy, but that's where it starts.
704
00:55:58,443 --> 00:56:03,091
We have to start, you have to start with changing your habits.
705
00:56:03,533 --> 00:56:04,285
I know that.
706
00:56:04,285 --> 00:56:06,510
some of the things that really helped me.
707
00:56:06,510 --> 00:56:21,654
is when I found people that I didn't know these people, but I found people that I wanted
to, I looked at their positioning in life and I was like, I want to be like that.
708
00:56:22,375 --> 00:56:23,015
Right?
709
00:56:23,015 --> 00:56:28,947
Not have the things they had, but maybe their physical appearance, right?
710
00:56:28,947 --> 00:56:32,017
The confidence they spoke with, right?
711
00:56:32,017 --> 00:56:34,109
The courage that they walked with in life.
712
00:56:34,109 --> 00:56:38,078
and I started to build a healthy identity for myself.
713
00:56:38,078 --> 00:56:38,789
Right.
714
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:46,664
You find yourself in clinical rehab and you see people with some real ass problems, excuse
my language.
715
00:56:47,586 --> 00:56:55,202
You see some people with some real mental illnesses and it'll shift your mindset.
716
00:56:55,202 --> 00:57:00,065
I don't wanna, I'm not supposed to be, I don't wanna be here.
717
00:57:02,671 --> 00:57:11,416
You find yourself in jail with somebody who really has no hope, has no light in their
life.
718
00:57:12,197 --> 00:57:23,003
Right, you spend some time with somebody who's in there for murder, who the rest of their
life is gonna be behind bars.
719
00:57:23,123 --> 00:57:30,048
You spend time with that person and you really realize the difference between you being a
victim
720
00:57:30,048 --> 00:57:44,977
victim of your situations and and and you You know living in some self-pity Versus a You
don't have a life right outside them four walls and that little bump head, right?
721
00:57:44,977 --> 00:57:48,921
And I experienced those things.
722
00:57:49,703 --> 00:57:58,283
I slept on the floor, a concrete floor, for 23 hours the other day in a dark room and only
have one hour to see sunlight.
723
00:57:58,283 --> 00:58:04,731
You look at the sun a little differently after that point, You look at outside, you value
it little bit more, right?
724
00:58:04,731 --> 00:58:05,762
been to that place.
725
00:58:05,762 --> 00:58:18,619
I've been to that place where you can't have any sharp objects in the room where it's just
you and four padded walls and you gotta sit there and you know I think everything in your
726
00:58:18,619 --> 00:58:26,524
reach is a can be used as a weapon to harm yourself because that's what you're in this
facility for.
727
00:58:26,524 --> 00:58:31,000
Right, it's a humble experience when you have to be a grown man.
728
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:42,848
You know, and you can't even have shoes on because I think you might harm yourself with
it.
729
00:58:42,848 --> 00:58:44,574
That's a very sobering place.
730
00:58:44,574 --> 00:58:46,906
And you start to value things.
731
00:58:46,906 --> 00:58:55,924
yeah, it's a so I can go on about it because then I get to share this story with so many
people and try to change lives.
732
00:58:55,924 --> 00:59:02,519
And then that's what my mission is now is to try to help people through those struggling
situations because I know how it's been.
733
00:59:02,519 --> 00:59:04,921
I know, you know how it's been.
734
00:59:04,921 --> 00:59:07,283
So inspiring to make this podcast.
735
00:59:08,044 --> 00:59:11,526
And I think it's an amazing, amazing gift.
736
00:59:12,067 --> 00:59:12,899
To the world.
737
00:59:12,899 --> 00:59:15,731
Well, thank you.
738
00:59:15,731 --> 00:59:18,112
I'm enjoying the podcast.
739
00:59:18,373 --> 00:59:19,504
Back to you for a second.
740
00:59:19,504 --> 00:59:25,578
mean, think, your story, yeah, it is absolutely remarkable.
741
00:59:25,578 --> 00:59:28,780
I love the, just the honesty.
742
00:59:28,780 --> 00:59:31,492
You you've owned everything.
743
00:59:31,492 --> 00:59:35,165
You've owned going to prison, not having shoes on.
744
00:59:35,165 --> 00:59:36,026
You've owned...
745
00:59:36,026 --> 00:59:40,828
that it wasn't your fault, but you thought it was your fault.
746
00:59:40,929 --> 00:59:46,283
Growing up, everything that you've experienced, you've had to look back at and go, is that
true?
747
00:59:46,283 --> 00:59:47,453
Is that really true?
748
00:59:47,453 --> 00:59:48,954
And then you've had to make a decision.
749
00:59:48,954 --> 01:00:02,992
And I think that is empowering because when you start to look at your life as an adult,
you look back from when you were the child and realize that you didn't see it as it really
750
01:00:02,992 --> 01:00:03,812
was.
751
01:00:03,888 --> 01:00:08,114
You've had to look back and go, no, my dad did not kill himself because of me.
752
01:00:08,696 --> 01:00:09,988
He did it because of him.
753
01:00:09,988 --> 01:00:13,743
And then you've had to go, that wasn't my fault.
754
01:00:13,844 --> 01:00:19,252
It wasn't my mum's fault that she couldn't cope and I had to be an adult age 11 or 12.
755
01:00:19,252 --> 01:00:29,189
And on and on, you, you have, you're giving people permission to look back on their life
and change that story, to understand that story.
756
01:00:29,189 --> 01:00:33,602
And I think that is utterly, utterly remarkable.
757
01:00:34,863 --> 01:00:35,703
yeah.
758
01:00:35,703 --> 01:00:47,131
And, you know, it has been a real, real honor to have you on the show today because JD,
what you, how you're going to inspire people, how you're going to carry on inspiring
759
01:00:47,131 --> 01:00:48,712
people is just brilliant.
760
01:00:49,068 --> 01:00:51,135
So thank you very, very much.
761
01:00:51,695 --> 01:00:54,298
And again, thank you so much for having me.
762
01:00:54,298 --> 01:00:58,323
just, there's no coincidences in life.
763
01:00:58,524 --> 01:01:01,168
And I could imagine.
764
01:01:01,168 --> 01:01:09,664
Again, the people that you're going to help and just by sharing just our stories together.
765
01:01:10,665 --> 01:01:11,647
I hope that.
766
01:01:11,647 --> 01:01:14,038
whoever's watching or listening.
767
01:01:14,038 --> 01:01:22,139
Like you said, giving yourself permission to really go back and look at the things in your
life.
768
01:01:22,139 --> 01:01:37,015
Address them because sometimes we can get caught in a false reality I Know I know that for
my full fact just like you said I blamed myself for so many things that it were seriously
769
01:01:37,015 --> 01:01:43,492
not in my control and and I Was sick I was sitting or sick minded.
770
01:01:43,492 --> 01:01:44,304
That's that's
771
01:01:44,304 --> 01:01:50,271
That is a form of narcissism we don't speak about, but it's the truth.
772
01:01:50,271 --> 01:01:55,093
I hope that people can understand it's not your fault.
773
01:01:57,204 --> 01:02:02,859
the things that you wanted to suppress and repress and bury in your mind.
774
01:02:05,067 --> 01:02:06,558
It's not your fault.
775
01:02:07,734 --> 01:02:09,935
Where can people find out about you?
776
01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:22,662
Where can they find out about JD and maybe contact you, work with you, understand you,
find and say, JD, I want you on my podcast, get you on a Ted talk, that kind of stuff.
777
01:02:22,662 --> 01:02:28,865
Because I think anyone who listens to your conversation will be really inspired.
778
01:02:28,865 --> 01:02:30,666
So how can people find you?
779
01:02:31,447 --> 01:02:41,190
Well, one of the ways they can find me, I do have a Facebook number one or social media as
you can always find me at JV and shivers.
780
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:45,871
That's J-A-V-I-A-N shivers, S-H-I-V-E-R-S.
781
01:02:47,052 --> 01:02:49,192
That's one way that you can find me.
782
01:02:49,692 --> 01:02:57,595
But I currently right now, I'm doing life coaching and motivational speaking as we can
imagine.
783
01:02:58,731 --> 01:03:13,770
as well as I get the opportunity, the blessing, the absolute blessing to coach college
basketball and be a mentor to these young men who's transitioning into life to become
784
01:03:13,770 --> 01:03:16,321
young leaders and husbands and fathers.
785
01:03:16,321 --> 01:03:22,765
that's part of my mission in life is to make sure that I can help those people.
786
01:03:23,145 --> 01:03:25,586
But I don't limit it to just that.
787
01:03:25,791 --> 01:03:26,567
So.
788
01:03:27,023 --> 01:03:41,335
For anybody that is out there listening and watching, if you find yourself stuck or you
feel like you're living life on autopilot and you want to do something about it, please
789
01:03:41,335 --> 01:03:42,836
reach out to me.
790
01:03:44,063 --> 01:03:47,211
I would love the opportunity to coach you.
791
01:03:47,211 --> 01:03:52,406
Please, you can get a copy of my book that I put out.
792
01:03:52,570 --> 01:03:54,731
It's called 30 Days Strong.
793
01:03:55,493 --> 01:04:06,242
It's a transformational book that will help you reset your habits, rebuild your
commitments to yourself, and rise above anything that you're going through.
794
01:04:06,242 --> 01:04:13,638
And the same, exact same thing that I did for myself to put me in position to be the
person I am now.
795
01:04:14,038 --> 01:04:16,860
So I encourage you, please, again, reach out to me.
796
01:04:17,299 --> 01:04:20,003
I would love to help anybody I can.
797
01:04:20,363 --> 01:04:21,844
I'm here to serve.
798
01:04:21,844 --> 01:04:23,645
I'm committed to serving.
799
01:04:24,186 --> 01:04:28,219
And that is my mission to serve to help anybody I possibly can.
800
01:04:28,219 --> 01:04:32,012
So please reach out to me with your questions, anything you have.
801
01:04:32,012 --> 01:04:35,474
And again, thank you so much for having me on this podcast.
802
01:04:35,915 --> 01:04:45,894
You are a inspiration to just have the audacity to build a platform to allow people.
803
01:04:45,894 --> 01:04:47,956
to share their stories.
804
01:04:47,956 --> 01:04:52,400
You are allowing people to heal.
805
01:04:53,201 --> 01:04:56,934
You are allowing people to solidify their healing.
806
01:04:56,975 --> 01:04:59,597
And that is a, you are a blessing, my man.
807
01:04:59,597 --> 01:05:01,646
You are a blessing to this world and I.
808
01:05:01,646 --> 01:05:07,110
I know that this podcast is going to do exactly what it is that you want it to do.
809
01:05:07,110 --> 01:05:07,590
Thank you.
810
01:05:07,590 --> 01:05:09,083
You're going to make me cry.
811
01:05:09,806 --> 01:05:13,954
Now that means a lot.
812
01:05:14,437 --> 01:05:16,261
JD, one last question.
813
01:05:16,261 --> 01:05:17,785
What is your superpower?
814
01:05:17,785 --> 01:05:23,021
My superpower is overcoming and not just.
815
01:05:23,021 --> 01:05:32,750
It is overcoming understanding that I walk with courage, confidence, and self-belief.
816
01:05:32,750 --> 01:05:41,722
My power to overcome any challenges, situations, the traumas, the lack, the limitations.
817
01:05:42,643 --> 01:05:44,323
That is my power.
818
01:05:44,983 --> 01:05:52,305
And it's not something I have, something that I've been given, that I never knew I had.
819
01:05:53,060 --> 01:05:58,858
I never knew I had it until I, you never know you have it until you have it, until you
accept having it.
820
01:05:58,858 --> 01:06:02,692
And that is my superpower.
821
01:06:02,692 --> 01:06:13,602
know that I can overcome, knowing that I can overcome life's challenges, because I have
been through the championship fight, man, and I somehow survived it.
822
01:06:13,602 --> 01:06:15,482
So, yeah.
823
01:06:15,615 --> 01:06:16,175
I love that.
824
01:06:16,175 --> 01:06:17,995
think that is spectacular.
825
01:06:18,275 --> 01:06:23,835
And you have, you have overcome, you have owned it and you've accepted it.
826
01:06:23,835 --> 01:06:27,035
And I think that is probably the most important bit.
827
01:06:27,415 --> 01:06:28,795
So JD, you're a hero.
828
01:06:28,795 --> 01:06:30,645
Thank you ever so much for being on the show today.
829
01:06:30,645 --> 01:06:32,663
I really, really appreciate it.
830
01:06:32,972 --> 01:06:34,439
Thank you so much, for having me.
