Episode Transcript
What's that at the bed?
It's spooky, Hey jooky, I'm pretty sure it's dead.
It's coming this way.
Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.
I'm not nandases.
Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
So Halloween's over for some people, it's not for me.
And you know, I think, particularly anytime it's like sweater weather, all I want to do is be inside, watching spooky, spooky movies and hearing scary ghost stories.
So if you're like me, you've come to the right place.
And you know I'm gonna give you spooky all year round.
And you know, I just posted some of my ghost hunting adventures on YouTube, so make sure you watch at Raz Hernandez The Haunted Doll.
I went to a terrifying place in San Diego that truly made me quit ghost hunting because it scared me so much.
But I've recovered and I'm back.
I also went to a spooky, haunted former nun convent turned hotel in New Orleans called the Bourbon Orleans Hotel, and I posted that uh investigation as well, so be sure to check those out.
I got to talk to Tyler Gaisa, who is just the cutest little cutie.
You know him from I mean Hugh John, TikTok, I mean numbers Honey, TikTok, Instagram, all of it.
He's such a fun, spooky just like cute vibe.
I love him.
You've seen his videos and he's on today and turns out he's lived in a couple of hundred houses.
So let's just get into that right now.
Here is my conversation with Tyler Gasa and with the show.
Oh my god, Tyler Gasa, thank you so much for having me, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2It's an honor and a pleasure.
Speaker 1I love your content, of your content.
Stop are now?
Are you spooky?
Speaker 2I'm spooky?
Speaker 1Like where does ghosts honey come from?
Speaker 2So that was my username on TikTok when I first got got started back in like twenty nineteen.
Yes, because I was working a full time job and I didn't want people at my work to find the videos I was posting online, so I was like, I need to use their name.
So I went live and had like an audience of four people, and I was like, can you all help me come up with a new username.
It needs to be like spooky and sweet, and so we kind of workshopped ghost Honey together.
Okay.
Speaker 1Have you always been a ghost like believer?
Speaker 2Oh?
Speaker 1Yeah, enthusiasts?
Speaker 2Yes, ever since I was a week tater top.
Speaker 1Where'd you grow up?
Speaker 2I kind of grew up all over the place I was born in Oklahoma.
I grew up on the East coast in Virginia, went to college in Ohio, and then moved to LA five years ago.
Speaker 1Now I prepared something from West Virginia.
That's not really one of the places that you've been to.
Speaker 2It is.
I finished high school in West Virginia.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2I know people are like, were you a military baby because you moved around so much?
And I was like, no, my dad worked for McDonald So I was a fast food baby.
Speaker 1Oh, fast food baby, A little happy meal yes, Oh I love it.
Okay, yeah, no, I was like, I think I was driving through West Virginia haunted.
Speaker 2Oh my god.
Speaker 1Oh have you ever been to the the Mothman?
Speaker 2No, it's like my dream to go to the Mothman Festival in Point Pleasant.
Have you been yes?
Speaker 1Okay, this is crazy, I've I've been obsessed with the Mothman for forever, yeah, or moth day.
We don't know, right, because I will say I've now seen the Mothman's statue up close, and it's they're ambiguous.
Speaker 2Down there, kicked up though, as well.
Speaker 1Caked, so it wasn't even on my mind.
I don't even remember exactly where I was going on this road trip a couple of weeks back.
Maybe it was I was, I don't remember.
I don't want to get confused because I don't really actually know the map.
I just follow my GPS.
But I was driving and all of a sudden, I seatle sign that was like the Mothman Museum, and I was on the phone with my friend and I was like, okay, I need to hang on.
Yeah.
So then I went to the Mothman Museum.
They have so much merch, every kind of thing you can imagine, Mothman stickers, coozy shirts, pins, everything Mothman.
And then there's the statue too, and I got to take a selfie with and of course I like have the ass like right.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm so jealous, so good, so jealous.
I only lived in West Virginia for like two years, right before I went to college, but I like went to school with kids who were like my dad saw them moth man.
Speaker 1Yes, that's what I would want from a West Virginia person.
Yeah, they have to know someone that's seen it, or at least claims to have seen it.
Okay.
So when it comes to like ghosts and that sort of a thing, have you ever experienced one?
Speaker 2I think so.
I like, growing up, my mom used to make us go on historical house tours with her, like every weekend.
Speaker 1Now what do you mean by this?
Speaker 2So growing up in like Virginia, there's so many little like houses and farmhouses from like the eighteen hundreds and stuff.
And she's just like a huge antique collector, loves history and architecture and stuff.
So she'd be like, get in the car, kids, We're going on a house tour, and like these are houses for sale.
No, they're just like they're like now they have like the little historical plaque, you know, and they give tours about like the history of the house and stuff like that.
Speaker 1See.
I'll never do that unless the tour guide is dressed like the time period, right, because I love to see a lady in like a colonial.
Speaker 2Of type bun.
Speaker 1Yeah.
But then also like checks her phone.
Speaker 2Like accent slipping in and out.
Yeah, yeah, but we would so we would do that, and then like every once in a while, we'd go into a house and we'd go into a certain room and my like my face would turn green and I would get really dizzy and I'd feel really sick, like I was going to faint.
And then like multiple times, the tour guide would be like is he okay, Like that little kid's about to pass out, And then as soon as we would walk out of the room or out of the house I would be like one hundred percent fine again.
And that's so I've always felt like I was like a little sensitive to those types of things.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think that's like a kind of psychicness.
Wait, it's called Claire sentient, I think, but it's like specifically, I mean, I hate to say it, but that feels like the worst one like that because you like get sick.
Speaker 2Yeah, I just feel like I literally feel like I'm going to pass out and like I get really weak and can't stand up.
Speaker 1That's not fun.
Speaker 2It's like boo, I want to hear voices.
Yeah, I want to see shit.
I did also like live in a lot of haunted houses growing up, and like in college.
My very first ever apartment in college was an old nunnery from the eighteen hundreds.
My dream.
It was like a little house in Columbus, Ohio where nuns used to go when they were sick and dying to like live out the rest of their years together.
Speaker 1Oh wow.
Speaker 2And I lived in the mother superior room.
It was like fifty square feet or less, no bathroom, and I lived in there with like twenty other It was like student unofficial student housing.
Okay, so my friend was like three hundred and fifty dollars a month work.
Yeah, and I used to have sometimes it was sleep paralysis.
Sometimes it was like I thought it was sleep process, but then I could move, so maybe it wasn't.
But there was always like a headless man standing next to my bed when I'd wake up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1A headless man, yeah.
Speaker 2And a plaid shirt.
And I would see him and be like, we roll over.
And I used to see him a lot in that apartment.
You wouldn't be terrified, No, I would, but I'd like pretend that he wasn't there.
Speaker 1So what do you mean he didn't have a head, Like explain could you see through him?
Speaker 2Like no, I could just see him and he was like a large man and he just didn't have a head.
But I don't remember if it was like a stump, just like wasn't there?
Yeah, but he used to haunt me in that nunnery.
Speaker 1Now let me I just have to ask, because this is how I always think.
Okay, but was he like a butterface?
Like was the body of no, don't look at me.
Speaker 2No, Well it was hard to tell.
It was a big flannel on.
I couldn't see the face.
Speaker 1And what way was it tucked in or was it like you, more of a grunge load.
Speaker 2No, it was tucked in.
It was more like farm farmhand.
Yeah, big strong arms, no head.
Speaker 1Now what was he doing in the nunnery?
Speaker 2I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 1See that's the thing, these nuns.
You take away sex from them and you put them all a house together.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1I'm sure that he crept in there because his girlfriend was a nun.
And then one of then the mother superior chopped his head off.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's dark.
Used to see him all the time.
That's wild.
And you just lived with it, yeah, like didn't you?
It didn't occur to you like.
Speaker 1That's but like maybe I should, like I don't know, call a priest or light some saying.
Speaker 2No because I was like a junior in college, so I was like I got bigger things to do for an art school too, So it was like there was a lot of weird shit going on.
Speaker 1Was this Ohio State?
Speaker 2No, but it was the same city as Ohio State.
But it was a small art college called the Columbus College of Art and Design.
Speaker 1Cool.
You should go there and do District West.
That's the drag club.
It's so good.
Shout out to District West, Columbus, Ohio.
Okay, so you said you lived in several haunted houses.
What else?
Speaker 2I think my house in Virginia was haunted too.
I also don't know, Like I sometimes I think like was it haunted or was it?
Like my mom, like I said, she collects antiques, like she would bring home like she'd be like, I got a new seating for the dining room.
It's a two hundred year old church pew.
She's like that kind of lady.
And there's like all some blood on it, right, So like, what are you bringing into our house?
Uh?
Huh?
Like I used to hear things all the time, like in the night, like cabinets in the kitchen opening and closing, things like that.
When I was by myself.
I remember one time I went downstairs in the morning to have breakfast, and when I came back up, my mom had like a shelf in the hallway upstairs, and there was like an antique doll tea set on it, like little iron rod table, little iron rod chairs, and I like walked through the hall to get breakfast.
There's nothing there.
I was home alone, and then after I breakfast, I went back upstairs to shower and it was set up in the middle of the hallway, like right where I had walked through earlier in the morning.
What that spooky?
Speaker 1Wait, but it had like the table and chairs or what what was it?
Speaker 2It's just like a little iron table and little iron chairs.
Speaker 1Like for dolls, like a little dolls, but no doll.
Speaker 2No, no dolls.
But they were set up just like in the middle of the hallway.
Spooky, like they had been taken down from the shelf instead of.
Speaker 1This is where I feel like I've said this many times, but toy story.
Mmmm, that is haunted.
Dolls haunted and you know it's that same thing where oh no, he's coming out of the bathroom and like right, and we're dead now.
Speaker 2And then they're like, he's coming upstairs.
Yeah.
Speaker 1Like imagine if you had Woody and buzz Lightyear and all of a sudden they're not where you left them, but they're still like dead.
Like that's a ghost story.
That's a ghost story.
It's a horror film.
Speaker 2Yeah.
My sister also saw like a little boy one time run into her bedroom and go under her bed, and she thought it was me And then she looked under the bed and there was no one there.
And I was napping downstairs in that house.
This is when you were a little boy.
Mm hmm.
Okay, yeah, because there's been times I hear these stories were like someone's like, oh I thought that was you, and that's like, first of all, I have a head, right, I'm not built like that.
Man.
Speaker 1Let me tell you this story, Okay, because this is fascinating to me.
Speaker 2Now, I don't know all court cases throughout history, even though I have my gavel's, I.
Speaker 1Don't know all these court cases.
But they say this is the one time in history her history.
So I would say that a ghost helped convict a murderer in West Virginia.
In West Virginia sounds right.
So this is called the Greenbriar Ghost.
You're familiar, No, but.
Speaker 2The ghost in a court case sounds famili so maybe I do know it.
Speaker 1Well.
It's not to be confused with the time that the devil was in a court case, which is the Conjuring three The Devil made Me do it, which is a true story about a guy that claimed he was possessed by the devil and that made him kill.
This is different.
Okay, Okay, so this is a ghost.
I got all this info from Atlas Obscura, which is a fun little website, and Greenbrier WV dot com.
They're very proud of this story in Greenbrier, West Virginia.
Okay, So eighteen ninety seven, a young bride named Zona Heaster.
I mean we had to take a moment for that name.
Zona.
Speaker 2That's my new dragon name, Zona Heaster, Zona Heaster Shoe.
Ooh, Zona Heaster Shoe.
She's found dead in her home, lying at the bottom of the stair.
She had recently married a blacksmith.
Now get ready for this name.
Speaker 1His name was Erasmus Stribling Trout Shoe whoa Erasmus dribbling trout shoe.
But at the time when she knew him, he was going by Eddie Edward.
Speaker 2Okay, I would too.
Speaker 1Yeah.
So her mother, Zona's mother is like, sums off with this guy.
Okay, she says, you know she They find out that this man he's been married twice, He's got a criminal record.
He was locked up for two years because he stole a horse.
So the first wife he abandoned, along with her child.
The second wife died when, according to him, he accidentally dropped a brick on her head while doing repairs.
Oh, he's fixing the house and accidentally drops a brick on her head.
Okay, so this guy's sketch.
Speaker 2Chi.
Speaker 1So Zona an Erasmus or Edward.
They elope, and she wore this high neck burgundy dress.
This will come in handy later because it's the same dress she was buried in.
The day of her death, he asked a neighbor boy go check in on her see if she needs anything from the store.
When the little boy gets there, she's dead.
A doctor comes, tries to resuscitate her, and after he cannot do it successfully, Erasmus, the husband is like, no, no more, just leave her.
It's no more.
Speaker 2You tried.
We all try it.
Speaker 1Yeah, you really gave it your best shot, like you're a professional.
And if you can't do it, yeah, just stay back.
And so they just ruled it as natural causes.
She just like fell on stairs, natural causes.
This is a young woman, by the way, uh eRASS the most insisted undressing her for the funeral, and he said, you know, she did wear that high neck dress at the wedding.
Let's put that on and we're going to do a big, huge veil over her head with a big bow under her neck.
And then she was buried case clothes.
End of story.
But then Sona's mother, Mary went to the county prosecutor's office and she told them that Zna's ghost had appeared to her multiple times and told her that she was strangled to death.
The prosecutor was like, okay, let's open up the case.
He just believed her.
And the prosecutor asked the doctor that arrived at the scene that day, and the doctor was like, yeah, I mean, like the husband didn't want me to like examine her anything, but like whatever, I'm busy in the doctor.
Everyone's dying of plagues around me.
So the prosecutor was like, let's just take a second look at it.
So they exume her and they find that her neck was broken and her whimpipe was crushed.
Speaker 2Damn.
Speaker 1During the trial, Zona's mother, Mary said, quote, she came back and told me that he was mad that she didn't have no meat cooked for supper.
But the second night she told me that her neck was squeezed off at the first joint.
It was just as she told me.
End quote.
Speaker 2Oh my god.
Speaker 1After only an hour, the jury found Erasmus guilty of murder in the first degree, and he spent the rest of his life in jail.
Good, a state highway marker near the small town of Smoot, says quote the only known case in which testimony from a ghost convict a murderer.
There's also been several plays and operas written about this story.
Okay, here's the thing.
Everyone at that funeral was like, what the hell is she wearing?
Like it was sketchy as can be.
The fact that she had a giant bow under her deck and a veil over her head and the turtle neck.
They're like, we were just at the wedding two weeks ago, but I know all these people that know her, because I'm assuming that his family or you know, it was all her family.
They were all at the wedding.
They're like, why is she wearing her wedding Like that's so fucking weird, super weird.
And they're like why is Erasmus He's like why is he dressing her?
Like we know her right, and like they had just met too, and so what was her name?
Zona?
Speaker 2Zona?
Poor Zona?
Speaker 1So I mean, I'm not saying she didn't come back and appear to her mother, but the mother could also have just been like, like, dig up the body and let's look at it again, because something's going on with.
Speaker 2The next red flag after red flag.
Speaker 1But instead she said, Zda came back.
That sounds like a great song.
Zoda came back.
Zoda came back and she said she's she was choked and they took it at court and it.
Speaker 2Was right wow.
So she's like, I didn't even like that.
Speaker 1Dress, Yeah, exactly, and she's stuck in it for eternity.
I'd be pissed too.
Yeah, here's another story I want to tell you.
Adele Singer.
She lived in a house that she said was haunted in England, and the house is currently up for sale, and the people are saying they cannot sell this house because Adele said that it was haunted and nobody wants it.
Now.
Here's an article from the Sun.
It says she had said that it's quite scary and quote, I'm not rattling around here on my own.
It gives me the creeps.
She rented the house from a tycoon named Nicholas Sutton.
I love the word tycoon.
Speaker 2You don't get that one of those anymore.
Speaker 1I know he's a tycoon who's married to a Turkish princess.
Okay, and they've been trying to sell this house since twenty ten.
It was six million pounds, but they wouldn't shift on that.
And Sutton, who is the tycoon?
Nicholas Sutton.
He blamed Adele's comments, saying, quote her comment negatively impacted future marketing efforts and continues to affect the property's reputation to this day.
Speaker 2It could be just it's way too expensive, don't you think.
Speaker 1It could be that could have something to do with it.
Speaker 2Not to call adela liar, believe women.
I believe her that she said it's haunted, but six million pounds.
Speaker 1This tycoon is he's suing.
Speaker 2Oh well, well not her.
Speaker 1Wait it says he's suing Strutton Parker.
Who's Strutton Parker the.
Speaker 2Ghost the ghost?
Speaker 1We have two ghosts, Stratton Parker Strutton Parker uh for professional negligence under its trading name BNP real Estate Advisory and Property Management UK Limited.
That's who he's suing.
Speaker 2Okay, because they didn't tell him it was haunted.
Speaker 1Oh, it says this is back in July.
I've had this story sitting here for a second.
I want to know the latest.
Ye who d they have?
Speaker 2Picture yourself?
It is a cute.
Yeah.
Speaker 1Look at it's like a big old.
Speaker 2Oh that's it.
That's a chateau.
Speaker 1It's a chateau.
I apologize.
I should have said that the tycoon is living in a chateau.
Speaker 2I imagine I was like adellas one person.
It was like a one bedroom fly and he's like, yeah, six minids, no, no, wonder it.
Speaker 1Didn't smell no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2That's beautiful.
Speaker 1So she moved into the home in twenty twelve for six months after making a fortune after her album twenty one.
The mansion was built in nineteen hundred and redesigned in the nineteen thirties in an Art Deco style.
This area is known for ghostly tales.
A couple fled the village as their house was haunted by a face that would fill the room, this huge face.
This is a face that'll fill the room.
And the local pub called the Green Man supposedly had a cat ghost.
They said that she blighted the property by saying that it's haunted.
Speaker 2Imagine she's like, yeah, I woke up hanging from the ceiling upside down, like in Scary movie too.
Speaker 1Are you excited for the new scary movie?
Speaker 2I could not be more excited.
I just watched last night on a Faris' first ever movie role, which was a horror movie from the man.
It's called Lover's Lane.
Speaker 1Oh, I've never seen that.
Speaker 2It's like a hook hands slasher.
Is it good?
Speaker 1I love it?
Speaker 2Okay, but I love a bad horror movie.
Speaker 1Yeah, nineteen ninety nine Slashers.
It was a good time.
There's a movie called may have you ever seen this?
It's an early on a Faris like maybe a little bit after that, early two thousands.
It's about this weirdo girl and she doesn't have any friends, so like she meets this guy she's like, I like your hands.
She meets this lady, she likes her legs.
She chops them all up and sews together her own friend.
Speaker 2Is it on a faris is the weird?
Speaker 1Now?
She's like she works at I think, oh, she works at the vet.
They work at a vet together.
Cute?
Speaker 2That sounds fun.
Speaker 1Can I show you a haunted doll?
Speaker 2Please?
Speaker 1Okay, it's time for the dolls?
Are living.
Speaker 2Dolls were like one of my number one fears growing up?
Speaker 1Well, I would think.
So you came out of the bathroom and there was a little doll set.
Speaker 2And also my mom was like, look at this antique doll that I found.
Speaker 1Its eyes are this is your new babysitter, right, I speaking.
Speaker 2Oh now that's a cute doll.
Speaker 1Columbus, Ohio.
Somebody gave this to me.
Bringing it all back together.
Shout out to the beautiful doll maker that made me this.
Thank you.
It's really a doll that looks like me.
I've had many people make dolls that look like me, and I need to bring them in here in the set because yeah, I'm really entering a doll era.
I just bought a Miss Piggy doll.
Oh this Franklin meant, Miss Piggy.
It's like this tall not haunted, but so gorgeous of putting on a pedestal in my house.
Anyway, this doll is haunted.
Speaker 2Okay, y have you ever bought a haunted doll from you?
Speaker 1I have not, but my manager did buy me one, really, and you know something funny, you should get his money back.
I don't think it's really haunted.
I've never experienced anything spooky with it.
However, Literally last night I was in my living room and I heard some like rustling, and I was like, I hope there's not a home intruder like this that would suck yeah, and that I was like, no, it's not.
But like that wasn't like something settling.
It was like a movement, And I was like, could it be the haunted all?
I would love to thange?
Speaker 2What's it look like?
Speaker 1A clown?
Speaker 2Oh?
Speaker 1Horrible, a terrifying clown.
Speaker 2Could you imagine if it was like if you had the Miss Piggy doll and it was that one that ended up being haunted, You know what, Kurmy.
Speaker 1It could be it could listen, the Miss Piggy doll could be haunted.
I don't know, yet I should, I should.
I spoke soon on that.
Well, this one is not a miss Piggy or a clown.
This one is Margaret, and she's going for sixty three dollars.
Geeha, show us Margaret, you got it?
Ros there she is.
Speaker 2Look at those chief Yeah, she's you know, they come in all different forms.
I think what we usually think of as a haunted doll.
We're talking lace, We're talking porcelain, porcelain.
I wasn't expecting this.
Speaker 1No, but it's all about the ghost on the inside.
Okay, okay, it's not about the exterior.
This doll, her name is Margaret.
She's going for sixty three dollars.
She apparently is a Dennis the Menace character named Margaret.
Now, I guess there's this famous cartoon character from Dentnis the Menna's name Margaret.
But this ghost lived as a human, died and then was like that doll has the same name as me.
Whatever.
I don't know, because let's just go along with it.
Speaker 2Is she crying?
Speaker 1I would?
Speaker 2She has like tears streaks on her eyes.
Speaker 1They're just selling her for eBay, you better cry.
It says they come with bios.
It's just the best Margaret is a unique spirit, sharp tongued, clever, and full of sass.
She has a distinct personality that comes through fast and bold, and she's not afraid to make her presence known.
Her presence is assertive, but not hostile.
More like a teenager who always has a snappy comeback, a strong opinion, and a hidden soft spot that owns reveals itself when you'd least expect it.
Speaker 2Okay, so she's talkative, Yeah, what's she's saying.
Speaker 1This person went to a flea market in central California.
The vendor had no idea what they were selling.
They just said, she gives me the creeps.
She always ends up facing me, even when I turn her around.
Speaker 2You.
Speaker 1I felt a buzz of energy the moment I picture up.
That night, I dreamed of a teenage girl sitting at a kitchen table with a rotary phone, chewing bubblegum and staring at me like she already knew everything about me.
Margaret was a teenager in the early nineteen seventies.
She had big dreams, a sharp wit, and a mind that was always one step ahead of everyone else.
She loved writing a journal's, reading romance novels, and listening to records.
Okay, come on, what does she do though?
Give me something spooky type with Seriously, they're telling us, well, I don't need all this.
She's perfect for a keeper who loves a strong personality.
Yeah, we know this.
So they've done different things with her, you know, Luigi board.
She she speeds through spelling and common words that she writes our talk, weight, listen and.
Speaker 2Ha not weight like w E, I g.
Speaker 1Aic.
But maybe she just didn't know what you sell it.
Speaker 2If you're like are you there and she's like cow, Well she's sassy.
Speaker 1They say she's sassy.
I wouldn't put it past Margaret h Yeah, she gives you dreams.
She can communicate through a pendulum, a candle, everything, She's got it all.
Speaker 2Baby, Is this like a psychic that goes hunting for dolls to collect?
Do you think?
Or do you think it's just someone with like a great imagination coming up with war?
Speaker 1You know these people.
I think about it every day.
I think about buying a bunch of dolls from garage sales and writing up a good bio, making a lot of sixty three dollars on it.
I think about it every day.
But you know what, I'm looking at the seller right now.
They've sold two hundred and seventeen items and they have one hundred percent positive feedback.
Speaker 2Whoa, so that's a lot of hanted dolls.
Speaker 1Yeah, and this place, this person only sells haunted dolls.
It appears.
Speaker 2Have you seen the TikTok where people are like playing Charlie xcx three sixty five for my hont.
Speaker 1Yes, I have, and I want everyone to know I've seen it.
Speaker 2You're getting tagged.
Speaker 1Some of them.
I'll comment.
I'm commenting just so everyone here knows I've seen that.
I love them.
Yeah.
It seems like it's one guy.
Do you know him.
Speaker 2I've seen him dancing for his dolls.
He has like five or six porcelain dolls.
Speaker 1Yes, yeah, yeah, maybe we need to have him on here and bring his dolls and we'll see what we.
Speaker 2Could get more.
Speaker 1Can I play you some ghost voices?
It's time for EVP or ev please.
Okay, here's what I do.
I go to YouTube, I type in the words ghost voices or EVPs Electronic Voice Phenomenal.
So it's like you know when you hear a ghost talk.
I'm going to play two of them for you.
I want you to tell me what you hear this ghost saying?
Okay, and I'll give you abc D.
One of them is what the ghost under believes.
It says, what is this ghost saying?
This one was posted by Mystery Portals and it was recorded in their garage.
What is this ghost saying?
As clear as day?
Speaker 2Do you think your gay?
Speaker 1I think it might be your gay.
That's pretty good.
Wow, that's not what Mystery Portals thinks, which is interesting because now that you've said it, I think that is what the ghost was telling Mystery Portals.
And I don't think Mystery Portals wanted to hear it.
Did they think it was a you're myde b, you're a pain?
See yeah, come here?
Or d whoop there it is?
Speaker 2Okay, let me hear it one more time.
Now all I can hear is you're gay.
You say you're a pain?
Is that what they thought about?
Speaker 1That's what they think it is?
You're a pain?
Speaker 2Yeah.
I would argue it saying you're gay.
I don't hear pain.
No, No, okay, that was a good one though.
It is it's saying something.
Speaker 1It wasn't bad, but Mystery Portals, it's time to start recording your insides.
Speaker 2Yeah, time to take a test online.
Speaker 1There's a copy.
Yes, I can send you a link.
Okay, next one.
This is one of these famous haunted places.
I gotta get myself to it, one of these one of these days.
It's the haunted Shanley Hotel, which is a NAPA knock, New York.
What is this ghost saying?
Speaker 2Whoa?
Speaker 1It's a very different vibe abouts a child.
Speaker 2Waiting.
Speaker 1Are you hearing any words?
Speaker 2Wait one more time?
And it sounds like it's asking for something.
Speaker 1I'll give you some options.
Did they think it was a I'm thinking yeah, B I'm in here.
C I'm Jacob yeah, or d my Facebook dac debated, debated, Okay, one of those, the one something I'm in here.
They think it's I'm Jacob, Yeah, I'm Jacob.
Speaker 2Yeah.
That sounds like a oh yeah okay.
Speaker 1But here's the thing.
They do have a five year old spirit named Jacob oh in the building.
Speaker 2It sounds really good, saying can I go in here?
Speaker 1Can I go it here?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Something like that.
Oh, that one's that one's spooky.
Speaker 1Well, my dear, since you're new to us, we want to get to know you a little bit more.
Okay, I'm just gonna fire off a couple of things.
Okay, curious your thoughts Bigfoot.
I want to believe that it's he's real.
Do you think that it's an animal that we've never experienced or do you think it's like a magical thing?
Do you think it's one guy?
Do you think there's a bunch of them?
Speaker 2I think it's like a type of animal.
I feel like, wasn't it like in twenty early twenty twenties or something.
Wasn't it like Trump released like the FBI Bigfoot files or something?
Do you remember that?
Speaker 1I don't, but that feels right.
He released the big Foot files.
Speaker 2They're like FBI files on Bigfoot?
Speaker 1And what did it have to say?
Speaker 2Apparently nothing good because I don't remember.
But if they did, like an official investigation, I think, what do you think?
Speaker 1I don't know.
I really don't know.
Every day anytime it comes up, but it just depends what day you're catching me on.
Speaker 2I agree.
I'm the kind of person where I'm like, I genuinely want to believe in everything.
You know, lackness, monster, yeah, moveman, Yeah, yeah, I know people.
Speaker 1But that's different.
Speaker 2That changes the story for you, right, But yeah, but there are yeah, there are days where I'm like, that's a guy in a suit, and then there are days where I'm like, we need to wake up.
Speaker 1Yes, he's out there, you need to listen to me.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Is there a conspiracy theory you believe?
Like a fun one?
Speaker 2Could you imagine if I came out as like a flat earther Most of them, no, there was the The one that I feel like I can get behind the most is that the Titanic wasn't actually the Titanic.
It was the another ship called the Olympic or something like that.
But where they were like there was like a ship built before the Titanic that was like incredibly similar, but I had a lot of problems and like leaks, and the Titanic wasn't ready in time, so they swapped them out and like send out this damaged boat instead as the unsinkable ship.
Because there are things where people put like side beside, like side by side images and like pictures of the Titanic and pictures of the Olympic or whatever it was called, and then pictures of the rack and like the windows match up the who they're not the Titanic.
Speaker 1So what happened to the Titanic.
Speaker 2They're like, we'll just keep working on it and then we'll send it out and then the song and they're like, never mind, cut, cut, deletely never happened.
Speaker 1Literally, I have no evidence other than you telling me this right now.
Speaker 2And I'm like, I believe that.
I like people said that, that's real, that's real.
Speaker 1I'm totally convinced.
Speaker 2I'm probably messing it all up too.
But the more like conspiracy theories like that, I feel like, I like, maybe, Okay.
Speaker 1All I need is like one person to dedicate their life to it.
I don't want to do it, but I'll listen to, like, give me five minutes of what you what you've studied the past ten years, And sometimes they can get me.
Speaker 2Sometimes, Yeah, the ones where it's like that one is more like, oh is it conspiracy theory or is it more like, no man is greedy?
Like I believe that they could have done something to say of course, yeah, Like that makes I believe that more than I would like.
Speaker 1I I want to do like a shark tank, you know the show how would do Shark Tank?
But you have to bring me your conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2To convince me.
You have five minutes.
Speaker 1You have five minutes, and it better be good that and or like your haunted doll or your psychic abilities.
Wait a second, gee, had this might be too good.
We might need to cut this and no one steals it may be serious.
Isn't this good?
Speaker 2Gee?
Speaker 1Like paranormal shark tank.
Speaker 2I think it's great.
Speaker 1I sit here and people have to come in and convince me we're not.
Speaker 2Cutting this because this is you claiming that you are the first person.
Speaker 1That has Oh so we need this on record, needs to be on record.
Okay, this is really good.
Speaker 2Is there a conspiracy theory that you believe in?
Speaker 1Well, now, I believe that the Titanic could never happened.
Which ones do I believe?
I don't know.
Let's get back to spooky spooky psychics.
Speaker 2I definitely believe even psychics.
Speaker 1Have you been to one?
Speaker 2Oh yeah, I've been to a couple.
Speaker 1For what reason?
Like what kind?
Speaker 2I've seen two psychics.
The first one was in Salem, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1Yes, you have to go to one there.
Speaker 2Yes.
I was on my book tour.
This was October twenty twenty three, and I had to stop in Boston and I was there for a few days.
So I was like, I'm going to Salem I need to go, And I ended up going on Friday the thirteenth, So it was was it crazy there?
It was so packed, like couldn't couldn't even really do anything, but it was still really cool.
And I was I was on my book tour.
I was simultaneously going through a divorce at the same time, and so I like walked by like a psychic house and like without even thinking, just like signed up for a time slot that day with like within the next half hour.
Oh god, And I remember the uh this, this young queer gentleman pulled me into like a little curtained booth.
His ability was through charms.
So we had like a little bag of silver trinkets and charms, and he like sprinkled them out, and I was like, okay, Like as soon as he pulled out like the charms, I was like, this is gonna be very vague.
You know, he's gonna be like steering wheel you're traveling right now, you know, Like I thought it was going to be like that.
And then like he poured them out, and then he immediately for like the next half hour just immediately started like diving into like in depth about my relationship and my divorce.
And he's like, Oh, you're going through a breakup right now, and he knew that, yeah.
Speaker 1Just from sprinkling his trinket.
Speaker 2Yeah, he was like, see this captain's wheel, You're going through a divorce.
Like it was really spot on.
I remember I typed it all out like on my notes app.
I can share it with you later.
But he was extremely specific.
I was also like like having a huge career change because I was like I was trying to get into acting and so he was like but I hadn't even done anything yet.
He was like, Oh, you're like going into like performing, like more acting performing, and like just to know you need to watch out for this and like keep this in like like he was incredibly specific.
Speaker 1Oh my god, yeah, I that's my first trinket sprinkler I've ever.
Speaker 2Heard, never seen that before.
Speaker 1No, that's that's amazing.
Like so each one was like what like a little like a charm.
Speaker 2It was like a little charm like there was I remember, there was like a captain's wheel, there was a horse, there was a star, like they were all just like random objects.
And then the way that they landed, like if they landed a certain way or if they were covering a certain charm.
He was like, oh, this means this, and like it's like it's kind of like the old school, or like a new version of the old school, like tossing the bones, you know.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, there's like a billion different things you could toss.
It's just they look.
Speaker 2Like different never seen charms neverfore drink It, never Pandora bracelet charm.
Speaker 1But wait, this reminds me.
Okay, listeners of this show, I haven't brought her up in a minute.
What's going on with the Asparamancer?
Okay?
The Asparamancer is my favorite psychic of all time.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Her name is Jemima Packington and she lives in England, Okay, and she does it with asparagus.
She throws asparagus and she can predict things and she's hat she used to there used to be a percentage that was like pretty impressive.
It was like seventy percent or something that she's her predictions are accurate.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1However, she did say that Kamala was gonna win, and I haven't heard much out of her, so okay, let's look up Jemima.
Speaker 2It's I'm assuming fresh asparagus every time.
It's not the same.
Speaker 1Yeah, she says she cooks with it afterwards.
Yes, okay, you can't cook out all the future.
Speaker 2Hmm, that's all.
She regenerates her powers.
You have to consume the asparagus.
Speaker 1I love aspara, the pee.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1It does not appear that she has been making doing much press.
There was an article on bristollive dot com from the first of January where she did her yearly predictions.
Actually, you know what, this is kind of a fun time to look, okay, she said, for Donald Trump, this may include a major health scare.
She's predicting debts in the royal family and the arrest of show business personalities.
Speaker 2Girl, that's kind of.
Speaker 1You gotta be a little bit more specific.
Speaker 2Right, And it's going to be sunny in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1Seriously.
A lot of the predictions that she makes are very British centric, which preach what you know, Yeah, I love it, love all love everyone there, But what about me?
Speaker 2Right?
So?
Speaker 1She also said stock markets worldwide will be extra jitterary, more royal debts, the culture of so called influencers on social media will be mirrored in even more scandal.
Speaker 2What does that mean?
Speaker 1I don't know.
She needs to be more specific.
I mean, yeah, I'm sorry the asparagus.
She didn't have a good batch.
Speaker 2It happens.
Hey, it can't be right every time, right, is still pretty good?
Speaker 1Yeah, but I think it went down after she said Gobble was gonna win.
Speaker 2That's the way the asparagus crumbos exactly sautees.
Have you ever seen a psychic?
Been to a psychic?
Speaker 1A psychic?
Speaker 2Many psychics?
Are you psychic?
Speaker 1You know?
Are you in love with Sylvia Brown clips?
Do you know about this?
She's like, honey the land, I can do that.
Yeah, I can do that all day long.
I'm not a psychic.
I've been to so many psychics.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, but wait a second, I wanted to ask you a couple more.
Okay, what about past lives?
Speaker 2Totally believe I really, really really want to do a past life regression, like really bad.
Every year.
I'm like, I'm gonna do that for my birthday and then I forget, I know I should.
Speaker 1Do you have any idea what you think you were?
Speaker 2I think I was an old bitter woman.
Yeah yeah, me too.
Yeah.
I just think I was like an old spinster in a house, you know, And I am now same?
Yeah?
Speaker 1What about horoscopes.
Speaker 2I do.
Yeah.
Speaker 1Do you get into like all of more than just your regular side?
Speaker 2Yeah?
I do, and I did.
I did a podcast a couple of years ago with these two professional astrologers and I love it.
So I thought it was going to be vague, you know.
I thought, like, I know, like my my mars is in cancer, which means like when I'm angry, I just cry, And so I thought I was going to be like stuff like that, you know.
But they were immediately like April twenty fourth year, like something big in your career is going to happen, and they're like you're gonna have a lot of sex this next year.
Like they were getting into like very specific things.
Speaker 1Yeah, and is it real at all?
Speaker 2I mean, this was I need to go back and listen because this was back in like twenty twenty two.
But I remember like some of the things like as they were happening, I was like, oh my god, yeah, so this was going to happen the day.
They must have been like I think they were a little psychic psychical, but then used like my birth chart.
You know.
Speaker 1I recently had an astrologer tell me that I was going to get famous on September eleventh.
Speaker 2Stop.
Speaker 1And it did not happen.
Speaker 2Well did they say that they specify which September eleventh?
Speaker 1Yes, this upcoming?
Speaker 2What oh?
Speaker 1But they were like looking back and like, you know in July, were you feeling this or whatever?
And I like look back and I'm like, oh yeah, I love so.
I kind of was like so.
Then I was really excited about like, oh my god, September eleven is all going to change for me?
And I fired everyone.
Oh my god, I had to.
I had to come back to Jiha with my tail between my legs.
I was like, bitch, you're never got to see me.
I'm famous now that September tenth, right September twelfth, I had to come back to Jiha and.
Speaker 2I was like, hey, I'm excitey yeah, I was just joking with you.
Speaker 1Listen, that's it.
Do you want to tell people things?
Where to find you?
Speaker 2You can find me online at Tyler GASA T y L E R G A c A.
Speaker 1Are you going to do more stand up?
Speaker 2I would love to.
I'm still very fresh in you to all of it.
I've done two shows in California or something like, I need to do it somewhere else yeah, take it on the road.
I'd love to do like a little West coast you know, like Portland, Seattle, San Francisco.
You know just how I like doing a little tour.
But do you like it?
Do you like going on tour?
Hate it?
Hate it?
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm just kidding.
I love it.
It's my favorite.
I've been home for a couple of weeks and I literally today was like, am I just gonna stay here?
I need to go see people?
Speaker 2No?
Speaker 1I love it so much.
Yeah, just go on the road, keep working that hour.
Speaker 2Okay, I will, I will, But yeah, you can maybe catch me in a future stand up show.
I'm auditioning and acting and stuff.
Maybe you'll see me on the big screen soon.
But other than that, I'm at home.
Speaker 1Okay.
Well, bye bye.
Thank you so much to Tyler Gaza, and thank you for listening.
I love you all, both living and dead.
But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, haunt me came back.
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My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee.
Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.
This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi.
My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.
My theme music is by the spot chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.
Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen.
Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle Kramer.
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