What's that at the foot of my bed.

It's spooky, Hey jooky, I'm really sure it's dead.

It's coming this way.

Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.

I'm nandaz.

Pe.

Hey boo, it's me Ross and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that I like about the baron normal.

I got a real special one for you today, this one.

This one today goes out to Oh the ladies.

I am joined by Rachel Scanlon, the hilarious stand up comedian and ah, oh, you'll just have to listen before we get to that, I have it goes story from a listener.

This one comes from Lacey.

Lacey Wrights, the family farmhouse I grew up and was built by my great aunt and uncle in nineteen sixteen.

It is a lovely two story house set out on flat open farmland in south central Kansas.

There is a stranded, lonely feeling out there, and it lends itself to an eerie atmosphere I grew up in.

I've always had trouble sleeping.

I would have vivid nightmares or lay awake terrified of shadow figures lurking in the darkness of my room.

One particularly rough night, when I was eleven years old, I turned on my closet light to keep my imagination from seeing nightmarish figures in the shadows.

I lay in bed with my eyes closed, drifting in and out of the hypnagogic state, imagining a small, red eyed demon sitting outside my window throwing rocks at the glass.

I could actually hear something small pinging off the storm windows.

I was terrified and tried to lay as still as possible, pretending to be asleep, hoping the dream demon would go away if I could ignore it.

As I lay there, shaking with fear, I felt a slow, warm, tingling feeling enveloping my clammy left hand.

Tears began to fill my eyes.

As the warmth began to wash over me, I felt like someone was holding my left hand.

I could feel the pressure on my palm, though I could not see flesh or bone.

I opened my eyes a crack just as I felt the left edge of the mattress compress.

I saw a bottom sized depression.

Yes, if someone was sitting next to me.

I blinked tears out of my eyes, but fell asleep before even understanding what I had just experienced.

I slept through the rest of the night without incident.

When I woke up the next day, I was convinced I had experienced something more than a dream, but it was too strange an experience to tell my family, so I kept to myself until I was a freshman in college.

My mom, brother, and I were sitting in the living room talking about the furniture original to the farm when my mom mentioned my great grandmother lived in my bedroom.

For some reason, I told her about my strange dream.

She told me that my great grandmother went missing from our house in nineteen eighty four.

One dark night during summer harvest.

The men were cutting the fields south of the house when a heavy thunderstorm suddenly rolled in.

My dad, grandfather, and uncle shut down the operation and came back to the house to find the front door standing open without any sight of my great grandmother.

Over one hundred people, the equine search team and the police with dogs search throughout the night without finding any trace of her.

It would be five years before her body was found.

A neighbor was pheasant hunting when he spotted something pink in the hedgerow.

It was the skeletal remains of my great grandmother laying in the embankment of a drainage ditch less than a mile from my house.

Jeez, Louise, I believe it was a David Politis Missing four one one style disappearance.

I don't know the reference.

I am less sure what the feeling of warmth that soothed my nightmares that night was.

Oh it was your great granny.

Well shit, I am surprised.

Is uh the only time you had a spooky experience like that?

Thank you Lacey for sending that in.

Okay, it is time for my conversation with I'm gonna say three time, maybe four time guests Rachel Scanlin and with the show.

Rozzie there, get your morning juice.

It's my go go juice.

Remember honey boo boo?

Of course, of course, I feel like she was on that mountain dewshit.

Also, I want you to know that a lot of people when I first moved to La thought I was honey boo boo.

That's not true, Roz.

I was a cashier at a coffee place and multiple people were like, are you honey boo boo asked me.

Did you say yeah?

Of course, yeah, you have.

To yeah you oh yeha this is my go go juice.

Yeah.

You gotta give them a little something, right.

I want tourists to see like they're like go home with a story.

Yeah we met a famous Britain.

Yeah we met Honeyboobu, who's now a barista.

Yeah yeah, I love her.

We have the same agent.

WHOA I don't have an agent, but it feels like that would have been right to say hello, Hi.

I am joined today by a dear friend, the most say it dynamic comedian I know, the most famous comedian I know, very good, never not working, but we got today in the studio, Rachel Scanlon.

Thank you, thanks for having me.

I'm so over here.

Does everyone know that we're movie friends?

I would hope so, I would hope so.

Yeah.

The two of us go to see movies together, scary ones, although you did just see one without me.

It was a mistake and I regret it.

But we're also the busiest person in America.

As are you.

No, ros I'm not as busy as you.

You're on a flight every other day.

Yeah, you do like forty seven shows yeah per city.

Yes, you work very hard, as do you?

You and I were very busy.

We're working, we're writing books.

We're staying in queer spaces in parts of the country that you wouldn't think had queer spaces.

What they do?

They are when we're there, exactly.

We bring together communities ros We're changing the world.

You and I.

Yeah, we are.

And just to think where we met.

We met at a comedy club and probably twenty thirteen.

Yep, truly, truly, people are doing this twenty sixteen throwback, and I'm like, take us back to twenty thirteen thirty.

Well, why did I look like honey boo boo oh?

Now that I think about it, listen, I look like Mama June Bag.

Sounds so Lisa Babes.

You've had at least I don't know, over a year since the last time you were here.

Really, I feel like I'm always kind of here periodically.

It feels right for me.

Yeah, it feels right for us.

But we've given you enough time to come up with some pretty good stories.

Yeah, there's a lot happening, a lot.

Well, and I didn't even tell your producers this, but just yesterday I got a reading from a very famous astrologer named Channy.

Stop Yes, Channy Tatum, Yes, yeah.

Yes, and she is queer and it went crazy.

Really, Now, what do you think it is about the LGBT that these people seem to have gifts?

Right?

Well, I would say I think specifically in the sapphic world, knowing your chart, knowing your big three, and subscribing to kind of the mysticism that is astrology is kind of a part of the dating process.

Don't you think, like you're.

Not gonna dating.

I forget that it's a dating thing.

Right, Like you want to match?

Like my wife and I.

I'm a cancer.

She's a scorpio written in the stars to work.

Oh really?

Yes?

Oh I didn't know that.

Oh yeah, but anyone else with a scorpio or even like a Gemini policeman, that could be bad news.

I'm libra.

What does that mean for you and I?

I think we're meant to be as well?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Oh wow?

Okay, So and you really take this stuff seriously?

Well, I take it as seriously as when it I mean, it feels right to me.

I don't know enough about it.

I didn't know my big three yesterday when I went into this reading with this amazing astrologer who was incredible.

I had no idea, but she basically sat me down and was like, your ruling house planet is Mercury, which is like the most queerest and non binary planet that there is.

She looked at me and she was like, she described basically that I as a comedian.

She's like, you need to be heard.

You want your opinions to be received by the world.

You verbalized to process and I'm like, of course, of course, of course.

And then she's like, basically, your planet is two things at once at all times, like it cannot be just one or the other, which I thought was very like affirming to feel.

I was like, Okay, it's in the planet, like it's the fluidity of Mercury.

Yeah, and I'm not gonna go against what the planet is.

I can't.

That's their planets.

You can't go against.

And this woman was, I, here's what it is.

Do I believe in astrology?

Maybe?

Do I believe whatever?

A beautiful woman tells me?

Okay, well, then you're in for a treat today.

What was her name?

Channy?

What you call me?

Oh, Channy Tatum is really funny.

Sorry, my phone is on vibrate and it won't stop.

Who's calling you?

I think it's actually my man.

I'm missing my DMV callback because they're calling me back at one thirty six.

Do you need to take that?

That's why it's.

Gonna take twenty minutes.

I can't.

My life's over.

I wanted, man, do you have any ghost stories for us?

I don't have any ghost stories.

Okay, that's fine, because I prepared an episode for us today.

And you know the way that I do this always, I have a bunch of different topics.

I do it like like you know when they pull lottery and there's like the little ball and it goes yes.

Okay, of course, I write down a bunch of different topics and I put them on there.

And.

So it's all very random.

Okay, doesn't matter, Okay, but it just so happens that all of these are about less.

Incredible and that's that's fate though, that's a mercury.

So I do want to say, for the first time in history, we are doing a lesbian episode.

Sh people going wild?

You know, I love is that lesbian that's like watching sports?

Yeah, that video and she's like she's like she's like doing something with her art, like punching at the air.

I love that.

I love that.

I love that we're all lesbians here, right or still aspiring?

You need to tell Channy to put a spell on me or something, because it's not happening.

I will, but maybe this will all change, because if there's one thing I would love to be, it's a lesbian ghost.

And you know I'm a huge ally.

Yep.

I love lesbians, yep, and lesbians I may speak for the entire community love you.

Uh?

Is there like a term for like someone that hangs out with lesbians?

But isn't one?

You mean, like the teeth all my friends in college?

What do you call it?

I don't think there's a term yet.

I mean there must be.

There must be, but it hasn't come across my desk yet.

Yeah, well I want to be I'm that.

I mean the equivalent of like, yeah, like a hag for dykes.

It has to rhyme.

I what did you say?

Take no trike?

Like three?

No?

You guys got anything back?

There?

Are you googling words that ran with dyke?

Anyway?

It doesn't matter, You're that whatever that is.

That's okay.

So I have some stories, and honestly, I'm very proud of this episode.

So let's start with lesbian ghosts.

Because not only do I have lesbian ghosts, I also have lesbian alien abductees.

Oh my god, first.

Up, lesbian ghost.

Did you know in Seattle there's a lesbian ghost that has a haunted hotel room that I absolutely have on my list to go to.

Oh my god, I love sea.

Of course it's Seattle, of course, the most lesbianic city that there is.

Seattle is one of my favorite places in the world.

Me too.

Where do you perform when you do that?

The Neptune Theater often?

Oh yeah, yes, fancy.

So let me tell you a little bit about Alice b.

Tocless, Alice be Tokeless.

Alice be Token.

This is from Seattle terrors dot com.

It is said that Alice Btokeless can be seen in the Hotel Sorrento.

Alice B.

Tribban We like it.

Alice be Tokeless is people see her in the Sorrento Hotel wandering the halls.

This is especially true around room four oh eight.

We can find her dressed in white or black, or you can find her dressed in white you're black.

It is said that she has cursed lights and causes them to flicker.

She's cursed the lights Okay.

It is even said that she has cursed drinks and causes them to move around when people are in the dunbar room.

Oh wow, moving drinks around?

Yeah, I guess so.

I don't know why they're saying cursed she's cursed them, but so it is believed.

I think it's confirmed.

Was a lesbian and partner of the famous writer Gertrude Stein.

Stop yep stop.

Not only that, this is pretty fun fact about her, she was a marijuana activist.

She was born in San Francisco in eighteen seventy seven.

She then moved to Seattle in eighteen ninety to study at the University of Washington.

She was studying music.

Her family would reside close to the grounds of the hotel.

However, the family would return back to San Francisco for over ten years before the hotel would open.

She would not die in the United States.

She actually died in Paris.

Anytime this kind of thing happens, I'm like, is.

That the ghost because because they died so far away?

You mean, yeah, ghosts are supposed to die in a place.

And then stay there, right.

I don't know.

I guess they could do whatever they want.

But she died in Paris.

I'll say this though, to be born in San Francisco and then go to college in Seattle and then go to Paris, that's a very gay trajectory of places.

And to spend eternity in Seattle, that's not bad.

That's not bad.

So Yeah, she was a marijuana activist, and she is credited as the inventor of the weed brownie.

What so it is Alice Betoken?

Alice Betoken?

It is unlikely that she ever what Seattle terrors it says.

It is unlikely that she ever walked the halls of this hotel when.

She's alive, hasn't even been there in her living life.

However, with that being said, she still has a strong presence in the hotel.

Why, in fact, her presence is strong enough to land the hotel on the country's thirteen most haunted hotels.

I don't understand.

It is said that the hotel acknowledges Alice and they are fond of her.

They hosted a dinner in twenty eighteen in her honor.

Oh, they would also use recipes that were in her cookbook for this dinner.

Great, why is she there?

Here's what I'll say, as somebody who's never been to Lilith Fair.

I'm sure you'll be able to find my ghost there at some point at.

The grounds, you know what I mean?

That is interesting, don't you think, like where's a place that you would haunt that you've never been.

Little as Fair?

Right?

That'd be fun?

Yeah?

Yeah, I guess like there is that kind of magical belief of like I'm I'm dead now, like now I'm going to go float around and see everything.

Or where your spirit is being called to.

That could be maybe somebody did a seance trying to find her and she was like, you know what, this is actually name.

Best right, She's like, I like.

I'm going to stay here.

So she was partner of Gertrude Stone, and while Alice was an art lover, she studied at the university.

She would live on the block where the hotel is located.

She lived she lived by of course, so I don't know.

Maybe she didn't like what the people did to her house after she died, and.

So she was in proximity.

Yeah, she wasn't far away.

I guess.

People believe that the hotel grounds were her stomping grounds, but it's not confirmed.

Okay, it is said that you can hear a piano playing in the pent.

How sweet, even if the room is.

Not booked, she's hearing come too lo Wind.

Oh my god.

You know I love Melissa athreve God, she gains it, you know what I mean.

No, she wants to come over, and I do feel that that is how Alice is probably knocking on people's window.

Sure, just coming to the window.

Here's faint, faint sounds of Melissa Ethrige outside the window.

Okay, here's another one I've been wanting to talk about for a long time.

It's the Lady's of Lngo.

Limb, the la the later whoa of Lego land, the ladies of Lango Lamb.

Wow, it feels like lingus when you say it.

The Larry.

I love that you're rolling your l's the ladies.

It's a weird word, but it's the ladies of Lengo len great l l A and g O l l e n.

Wow.

So those l's are.

Rolled Lango renn.

Whoa there very ladies of Lango ren Whoa.

Can you show us a picture of the ladies of Lego Lamb please?

Ros, those are the ladies of these ladies?

If these ladies ain't my fashion sense.

I feel like I'm looking at my long last twins.

Doesn't that look like me?

Curly short hair?

And then on the left of the right, well, first of all, but that was on the left is me in twenty sixteen.

On the right is me currently curly hair, and then a little too formal dapperware.

Yeah, she does not look Neither of them look very happy.

But and you're that cat and they have a cat.

Yes, that's me.

They they were in love, they were real for but I love that now?

Is that common?

It's people don't fetishize it as much, but it happens, right, you know what I mean, It's out there.

Of course, I think it's less common, but it's it's out there.

Now since there's like lipstick lesbians.

What do they call that?

Is that?

Chap?

Oh?

These are?

I mean I would say that these are two butches.

Especially with the time frame.

I feel like mask is a little bit more younger current.

These are two old school, classic dapper butches.

Yeah, for sure, butch for butch, I mean, that's powerful shit right there.

No, that really is God.

We need a lesbian president so bad.

I'm trying.

Please.

So they lived in a famous house together the Butcher Shop.

No, that's not what they called it.

But there's an article that was written by Ken Summers.

Shout out to Ken Summers, who he he wrote.

He wrote the book on it when it comes to queer ghosts, and he actually was on this podcast a number of years back.

We talked about his book, which I have.

I don't know where it is.

I was trying to find it because I was trying to look for Lesbian ghost.

Where's the book?

I don't know.

So if anyone out there stole my Queer Hauntings by Ken Summer's book, I will find you.

I don't know where it is disappeared.

But luckily there is this h them dot com.

He wrote a piece for which Them Them Love Them, a great website that refuses to ever write about me.

But okay, so.

The lady the limb, Yeah, and their lovers, right, you're saying.

Yeah, can't you just feel the love Palpitato.

I mean, I can't see where their hands are, but I know it ain't right, I know it's.

Okay.

So these two, yes, they would wear men's.

Fashion, incredible, it so hot.

This is in Ireland and we're talking about Sarah Barah Ponsimbe and Eleanor Butler.

Top about I'm Marnin Doya.

Sarah and Eleanor.

I mean, or their couple name.

I'm not gonna lie.

Looking at this picture, I would have said Hank and Frank.

Right, you would see.

I mean, they're definitely could pick a different name if they wanted to.

I would not look at that and go, oh, it's Eleanor and Sarah.

I feel like this is like a classic.

I mean, I have a classic bit about this, at the more masculine, the lesbian, the more feminine her name like this one being like it's it's Eleanor.

It's crazy.

I'm obsessed with that.

I love that.

I mean, that's a tales all.

It's Mother Nature's trick on us.

And I'm Sarah, Sarah, Hey, Sarah Eleanor.

But there's something so powerful about it.

I just love it.

Of course I love it.

It's me.

So the two of them eloped and ran off to Wales in June seventeen seventy eighth.

Pre pride, pride, Oh.

My god, may before pride, honey.

They didn't the L word nowhere to be proud, the word lesbian problem.

I don't even know if they used it that did they?

I don't know.

I'm not a historian.

But so they they ran off and they built a life together, says their small cottage would become a grand manor named plas New.

Shit.

I feel like this is Welsh or something, because there's like a Y and a D D.

Yeah, plas New something like that.

It is something like that.

They were well respected by the townsfolk.

Which that's nice.

Now are you and your wife respected by the townsfolk of your neighborhood?

Hmmm, here's what I hate to admit.

There is a stronger I know them.

You're just stronger, hotter, more powerful lesbian that lives directly across the street from us, and I watch her hold court like they do Easter egg hunts and and stuff, like she's got kids and the neighborhood like I watch every other like woman in the neighborhood like fawn over her, like she walks in.

Yeah, she's single, she's got two kids, and she runs that neighborhood.

And I thought that I would be running that neighborhood.

Yeah, me and my wife, hot, young, cool lesbos No.

She is like all power people.

I mean, she like runs shit, and other women are just like I watch these straight women with husbands like ditch their husbands at like block parties to go like get close to her.

She draws them in and she's got this like very cool short haircut, and she doesn't really give a shit, you know what I mean.

Like her Bach energy is way more calm, collected, powerful.

My Boach energy is a lot more like are there here?

Like people don't respond to me the same way they respond to her, And she's directly across the street.

So sorry than you.

Yeah, well I don't think that there was that case.

Well they're sounding well, yeah, Eleanor and Sarah.

I think they moved in first.

They were they were definitely your neighbor in this situation.

Ros, I have to tell you, I found out the place that I just moved into, there were two lesbians living there together for fifteen years.

They were best friends.

They lived in that house.

One of them past were a couple.

They were a couple.

They were a couple of friends.

Some people in the neighborhood are like, they were best friends, and then some people neighborhod are like they were lovers and they lived there for fifteen years and they used to do like house parties.

They met at Elvis's party, and they fell in love, and they lived together in the place I live in right now.

They die, one did lesbian and the other one is still living.

And sometimes my neighbors would be like, get her, I get their mail, I get their mail.

The two women they lived together, and I'm too scared.

You don't want to lesbian ghost?

No, I don't, can't.

I can't handle that.

I can't even handle a real lesbian across the street.

Is that crazy you want to tell you that?

No?

I really am not happy about this.

But okay, So they were welcomed in the church locally, and they routinely had opportunities to host the rich and famous in their stately home.

Right, they were buried together in the church cemetery, and they're legs together.

It was a really long box, powerful.

Legs open wrapped around each.

Other's open cast it casket.

Legs.

Really well respected in the church.

Their home has become a museum.

Okay, So anyway, let's get to the ghost part.

So the cast of the British paranormal reality series Most Haunted filmed an episode at this house in two thousand and eight.

They did not shy away from mentioning the couple's relationship great the standard paranormal fare of misty forms.

I used to do shows with her.

I think that's crazy.

Misty forms, lights, cold spots, and unexplained wrapping like my name is Ella nor I'm here to say so, you know, tapping that's been long documented by visitors, often centered on the Oak Room with its exquisite wood carvings.

Of course, Eleanor and Sarah's presence has unnerved some guests, yet they are mostly described as having an overwhelmingly welcoming and inviting feel.

Encounters are commonly reported around Christmas, when the ladies of Llangoline would surround themselves with family and friends, both old and new.

WHOA wow, I liked that they were so liked in this town.

Yeah, like these Lesbos.

Were so seventeen hundreds right, yeah, oh I love that.

All right, let's talk about another one now, this one up for debate.

Okay, if she was a lesbian or not?

All right, Actually, I'll let you borrow my gavel and if you think that she was a lesbian, you are free to use that thing.

Okay, Lizzie Borden, have you looked into this.

I've seen some movies.

Wow.

Yeah, that's one way to see your former boss.

Oh really, Kristen Stewart, that's right, she did that movie.

It was pretty hot.

It was I know, I think they fucked in a barn, right, I remember them.

I remember a bar.

Yeah, I mean at that time, Barnes were kind of made for Yeah.

I remember there being violin a pile of hay.

Yeah, some prolonged eye contact.

So Lizzie Borden, do you know much about her?

I mean I I saw the movie.

That's all I know.

And that's the thing.

This rumor of her being a lesbian has really caught on over the years.

So her Bed and Breakfast, which is in Fall River, Massachusetts.

That place, yeah, you can go, you can go, rent it, you can go.

I mean, it's a bed and breakfast.

It's still and it is where her parents were murdered.

Now, the thing is, do we know who murdered her parents?

Technically no, it was never solved.

Would you stay there?

I would go ghost hunt there.

I'm not going to sleep there.

I can't do eighteen hundreds the murder.

No, I don't like that.

So this is an article by Courtney Hardwick in magazine Dot C a Canadian.

Okay, So, in eighteen ninety two, she Lidsey Borden was accused of killing her stepmother Abbey and her father Andrew.

This was the true rile of this century, honey, and she was found not guilty, still technically unsolved.

She was thirty two when she was first arrested.

She had no desire to marry, which was pretty unusual.

Now, there's a novel that came out in nineteen eighty four called Lizzie by Ed McBain, and that was the first time that it was floated around that maybe she wasn't murdering people, but she was murdering.

That pussy Lezzie Part two.

That was the first time that people had talked about this.

The book claimed that it's possible she had an affair with the family's made Bridget Sullivan very hot.

Bridget is a hot.

Name, you think, so Bridget?

Have you ever remember Bridget?

That was not a ten out a time.

I mean, here's the thing, I can't remember the last time I saw a Bridget.

I'm sure I would be attracted to her basis.

The girls next door.

She's sat right there, she has sat right there.

Of course she sat here.

Oh yes, she has I eat the chair.

So the theory is that the parents found out that she was that she was a thirty two year old having an affair with the family's maid.

Yeah, and that's why she killed them.

That's a theory that some people have.

Now there was no mention of her sexuality in any of the trial, or there's really no like hard evidence and now okay, no, from what I from what I'm reading here.

After she was acquitted, Lizzie and her older sister Emma, used their inheritance to buy a new house in a different part of town.

They were generally reclusive, but Lizzie made friends with a stage actress named Nance O'Neil.

Come on, come on Nance.

According to news reports, Emma did not approve the sister did not approve of the relationship, and eventually moved out.

Rumors that Lizzie and Nance had a sexual relationship swirled.

Of course, Now here's the thing.

Nance was an out lesbian.

Oh very cool.

So I mean the fact that it's like she's like to her sister, like, hey, just so you know, my lesbian friend is moving in with me and we're gonna spend a lot of time together just the two of us feels pretty I mean, at the very least she's an ally.

Right well, and I think it's gay by association.

But also I mean the writing's kind of on the wall in blood.

In blood, it is still based on rumor and conjecture that the two of them may have possibly had a relationship, but it's certainly added to the theory.

Right.

The Lizzie Borden House m hmm, super duper well known in the haunted community.

People are going to this place all the time.

They do tours, fun, they do Victorian murder mystery, you know things, and you could stay the night and you can have your bed and breakfast and there's this.

The website is actually really well done because I look at a lot of haunted websites, yes, and this is a place that's like, yes, or the place where where that Lizzie boredom come on in, which I think is great.

They embrace it.

But yeah, very mysterious.

Oh.

The Morse Room is where they say a lot of the stuff happens, which is the murder room.

This is where Abby was found murdered in the morning of August fourth, eighteen ninety two.

That's a room.

You can just you can just book that.

There's also the Lizzie and Emma Suite, the Andrew and be Sweet, the Bridget Sullivans Sweet, the Andrew Jennings.

Who's Andrew Jennings.

Oh that was her defense lawyer.

He had his own room.

Oh shit, that's suspicious to me.

But either way, very haunted, very haunted.

So do you think that she's I think so.

I'm gonna say she was a strong ally.

I think this.

If you're why would of that age that time to be like, I just don't want to be married?

Okay, had you met men?

Not really?

Okay, this one is great.

Okay, this one needs to be talked about.

Lesbians thirty minutes from here abducted by aliens Oh shit, yep, Oh my god in nineteen fifty three.

Whoa recent ish compared to the seventeen hundreds.

Yeah, compared to the seventeen hundre is.

But also we're a young country.

Here, Yeah, we're at so close Valley.

Honga, Tonga.

Uh huh, Oh my god.

There's a great article on LAist you know LAist dot com of course, that talks about like this is a story that none enough people know about it.

Right, I haven't heard about lesbian's in the fifties being an abduct Actually, the.

First time I think I ever heard of it was Demie Vados short lived UFO show.

Oh, they like briefly talked about this because there's a book written about it.

But I found this story on LAist dot com.

It was written in twenty twenty four by Robert Goova, and it says this little known alien abduction case happened in LA's backyard Your Guide to the UFO Hotbed in Big Tahunga Canyon long title so In an isolated cat two women were terrified by an experience they had beginning around two am on March twenty second, nineteen fifty three.

According to the women, bright lights and a deathly stillness were followed by an alien abduction in which one of them said they were taken on board a UFO by slender entities with elongated mask like faces.

Both women's accounts and several others are described in detail in the book That Took Hanga Canyon Contacts by Anne Droffel and d Scott Rogo.

To protect them from backlash, the pseudonyms Sarah Shaw and Jan Pussy Jan Whitley.

To conceal their identities, they changed their name to Jan Beatty Beaver, Jan Pussy now Jan Whitley were they're fake names in the book which was published, and it published in nineteen eighty.

So Shaw and Whitley would undergo regressive hypnosis oh shit in order to try and pull recollections of the incident from their memory.

Shaw had her hypnosis led by doctor Martin Reisner, who founded the LAPD Behavioral Sciences Services in nineteen sixty eight.

Okay.

In a second hypnosis session with a different doctor by the name of Bill McCall, Shaw recalled her abduction experience in nineteen fifty three.

This is what Shaw said.

It started to float.

It started to float.

I'm starting to float towards it.

This she's recollecting.

I'm starting to float towards it.

And then the doctor says, what do you mean you're starting to float towards it?

And she says, well, they're walking with me, but my feet aren't on the ground.

And then the doctor says, they were on the ground when you came out of the house.

How come they're not on the ground now.

And then she says, well, there's a beam of light it's like it's like it's almost like a and then the doctor says, now you see a beam of light.

And then she says, I'm on the beam of light.

That's an excerpt from the book from her hypnosusception.

I felt like I was there.

She would go on to recall being examined aboard the spaceship by entities with some type of scanner.

She said that they imparted to her a cure for Cancer's good, that cure.

All the women who came forward with their stories from this incident around this area were part of the LGBTQ community, and most, if not all, had some connection to Whitley, the one lady.

That's pretty standard.

That's standard.

They all knew each other.

Now they're intertwined.

Yep, there's a tree.

While Shaw and Whitley's initial encounter took place in the fifties, it wasn't until the seventies that they brought their story to this author.

So that's something that's.

Incredible to lesbians being abducted.

I like that for honestly research purposes.

I feel like research here on earth is always done on like straight men.

Let's have some lesbians scan some more lesbians.

I'm happy that we don't hear about lesbians getting taken up there too much, because I think that the aliens would be like these ones are superior.

Yes, we're keeping them.

Yeah ours now ours, ours keepsies.

Yeah, no back sias for the lesbians.

And that's what I'm afraid of.

Right.

There is something to be said for superior being being the lesbians on Earth.

Because otherwise it's typically just some dumb dumb man.

Right, they took me up, they probed, Hey, they probed me.

Yeah, they stock the.

Memo also homophobic.

They don't even want to know.

If I sucked up a street man, it's spin them back out, you suck up a lesbian.

Let's learn, Let's learn what's going on here on Earth.

So just one more thing, it's a honorable mention.

Since we're kind of going through all the different topics of the paranormal.

One of the hosts of Finding Bigfoot the lesbian, open lesbian Renee Hollins.

And she's fierce, and she's very skeptical, and she's she comes at it from like a scientist's standpoint, and that's.

Like her career lesbian and stem I.

Think so honestly, she could be.

She is a research biologist, conservationist, author, and speaker.

Yeah, and I just I love that representation.

It's nice to have.

We need more queer researchers.

Come on, she's so pretty little hot she is.

Yeah, she's pretty hot.

Geez.

So if that can't get Bigfoot out, I don't know.

I don't know Bigfoot's real, right, Okay, can I show you some haunted dolls?

Please do?

It's time for the dolls are living?

Okay, So I go to Ebrey.

Yeah, I find out haunted dolls.

Of course this is always also.

Random, sure, completely random, just sucked up.

I did find a two for one deal.

Okay, there's two dolls conjoined into one.

Oh wow, and for thirty seven dollars and thirty five cents, you could go home today with Harper and Andy Showeth Harper and Andy.

Jiha.

Okay, so that's one of them.

Okay, Now here's the thing.

It's kind of a situation.

Uh huh.

Can you show us the situation because they're I love now scroll down?

Yoh oh oh oh.

So these two were buried like the ladies.

Yeah, those are our two ladies.

There they rest happily.

It's one of these situations.

If you're only listening, if you're if you could to Instagram and go to the story that says Dolls twenty twenty six, you'll see you'll see what I'm talking about.

But it's one of these things where it's like a doll with a dress sound, and then if you lift the dress, Oh, there's a lady under there, and wow, they're they're kind of.

Like they're joined at the pelvis.

You'd think at the pelvis.

Yeah, right, how do they go?

Body?

It can't be it can't be good, it can't be pretty pretty.

But here's the thing.

So let's keep in mind that we're going to talk about the ghosts that are inside of this doll.

Yeah, or dolls, I don't really know.

I mean that one on the bottom, I mean not to say that that one is a bottom, but just physically is on the bottom looks more like a ghost.

I know the ghost is within.

Yeah, Well there's actually two spirits.

Oh yes, there's two spirits that have inhabited this doll that's currently on sale for thirty seven dollars and thirty five cents a deal.

Here's the bio that the seller wrote down.

God, it's kind of a long one.

Okay, So Harper was twenty seven and Andy were thirty was thirty two.

They were in a same sex relationship for four years up until nineteen ninety five.

Wow.

Harper worked at an animal shelter and Andy was a manager at a fast food restaurant.

Okay, and you know she ran the Arby's.

Like a fucking naval battleship exactly.

They met by chance when Andy came to the shelter in search of a rescue dog.

It was a slow day and Harper had lots of time to spend showing Andy all of the dogs and puppies that were up for adoption.

They hit it off right away.

Okay, blah blah blah.

Andy chose a German shepherd.

Cute.

They would listen to music together, have cocktails, and watch their dogs play.

Already know where this is going?

Right?

Oh my god.

As Andy leaned into kiss Harper for the first time, she felt a little conflicted.

This is like the next like heated rivalry.

Ye.

Flash forward four years to August of nineteen eighty five.

There's still a happy couple.

They were headed home from an Atlantis Morisset concert.

They were driving down the interstate.

A semi truck driver who had been awake for far too many miles fell asleep.

He drifted across the lanes and jerked awake to the sound of horns blaring.

Harper and Andy were blessedly lifted from their bodies an instant before impact.

Hand in hand, they stood.

I love that they were lifted before impact.

Their spirits left.

Before they died.

I thought you would die, and then the spirits left.

I know, but I wonder if there's a thing where it's like your soul knows, like time to just get out of here.

You don't want to see this part.

I like thinking that that's how it goes.

So they stood at the precipice of the brilliant bright light.

Harper could see her beloved childhood dog, Wookie.

Now, how did they get all this information?

This is a long she bored.

More So, basically, Harber and Andy found this strange doll.

They laughed as they possessed it together, happy with the close quarters of the two of the dolls.

You know, they joked that it was the first time Andy had ever worn a dress.

Andy is the open eyed doll.

Carper's eyes are closed.

I see now in this realm.

They have many things that they want to do.

They make vision boards.

Probably they have goals here.

They are excited to find a friend or family.

They would prefer LGBTQ adoption, but it's not a deal breaker for them.

They see no color, no age, no gender.

They probably have that sign in their front yard except all of everybody.

So they are spiritual advisors, able to give life advice from their spectacular vantage point.

They're very positive.

They're both animal lovers.

Oh my god, what it says.

They love to laugh and joke.

Some of their jokes are on the dirty side.

Ask them about quote sissoring into eternity.

I mean, if you want a good laugh.

Of course, of course I do.

Communicate with pendulum dowsing rods and Ouigi.

I haven't tried a spirit box, but I bet they are a riot.

I have heard girls laughing and seeing a double orb with an almost rainbow iridescence like a soap bubble in the light.

I feel like you do a Ouiji board on these two freaks, and they just go six nine six nine six nine six nine and gigle in themselves.

Yeah, for sure, cracking each other up over there.

No negative attachments as always, background dolls and photoprops are not included.

Don't even ask.

So if you want that flannel, that's mine and I do, and I was gonna ask.

I was about to ask about that.

So yeah, I mean this is the They sound like a who.

I mean, they're definitely like right up our alley, Like if we and I were going to get a doll.

I feel like this would be the one scissoring into infinity internity eternity.

Uh huh the name of my next hour?

That would be great.

Yes, Can I believe some ghost voiceless?

Please?

It's time for EVP or ev pase.

Okay, So I go to YouTube, I find ghost voices and people post.

I want you to tell me what you hear, and then I'll give you an ABC D option.

Okay, So this first one we've actually had before on the show.

But I liked it and I want it.

She got the call back.

This was posted by Jason seven to Dash one Dash I ate s it was recorded at a place called Levin's Hall.

I believe this is British.

What is this ghost saying?

Rachel Scanlon?

Okay, it definitely sounds like either a seagull and distress or it kind of sounds like remember like recorders, like those flutes, Yeah, those little flute things.

Yeah, yeah, sounded like that.

Ah ah, yes, much clearer that time.

Do you have any guesses?

I think it's like I am not here, as he gets a little weird at the end.

Well, did Jason sevent to dash I eight s think that it was a ah, nice to meet a lesbian?

B?

Wait, stop, I love you?

C Hey, Jane, I called to you?

Or D scissoring for it's one of those Okay, I.

Want to say D, but I think it is C like when you said that I'm.

Here, Jane, I called to you.

Yeah.

They believe that it was a it's nice to meet a lesbian.

Okay, yeah, okay, it's nice to me a lesbian.

I'm always saying that I'm You're always saying I.

Always say that.

Okay.

Here is one more.

This is from Creatures of the Night paranormal and it was taken at the Losey Bourdon House.

Hello, what is this one saying?

Dancing?

Sing?

Yeah?

Maybe?

Well did they think it was a I want seafood, B I don't see you see I won't sleep here?

Or D that's gay?

If you have me, kid's one of those.

That's gay?

Do they believe it is?

See, I won't sleep here.

I won't sleep here.

I won't sleep here.

I'm with you on that one ghost, I won't sleep there either.

Well, we're pretty much done.

Oh sh and we've heard all your beliefs.

That's usually how we end this.

Okay.

The one question that I've added recently that is my new favorite conspiracy theories.

Are there fun conspiracy theories?

Yeah?

That you subscribe to?

Yeah?

I don't know if there?

What are some crazy ones?

I mean, have you ever heard the one about Garth Brooks?

No?

Now, I do know that he's aware of this theory and does not like it.

Okay, I believe he's gotten litigious about it.

Okay, but not to me because I am just reporting the news.

Okay, this that this has been a theory.

It's wild.

Basically, I don't know.

I don't have all the details pulled up, but essentially what the theory is is that every place that he has toured, a mysterious unsolved murder has happened in every single city.

I mean, that would be crazy.

And there's people that have gone through Like we're talking the nineties, like every single city.

I heard that, and I do kind of believe that Katie Perry's robot.

Have you heard that?

No?

Yeah, I fell down that rabbit hole on TikTok like a year ago.

That's the first.

The proof is her glitching out on stage multiple times.

And I've seen the videos and this is like at first you're like, that's crazy, and then you watch ten more videos and you're like, I kind of think it's true.

Yeah, because she basically is on stage having like her eye and then it blinks and then she kind of goes like you know, firework.

But like those lights can be crazy.

But it looked exactly like a robot.

It looked robotic, like in a like a robot.

And then for I mean, I'm still kind of like I'm on the fence if she's human a robot.

No, that's fine.

Yeah, there are not to talk about lesbians this whole time, but well there are lesbian conspiracy theories like pop stars that.

Like, yeah, I mean I'm a galer truther at times.

Yeah, Taylor's Lift.

Yeah, well with Diana Agron as well, and like Diana Agron, she's she plays Quinn for Bray and Glee, the blonde.

I don't know any other words.

You just used.

Glee, are you not?

You didn't watch glow?

Uh the lead blonde?

Okay, her name is Diana Agron and they were all Agron.

This could be my accident.

She really does zach egg mm hmm.

Okay, So people, I know I've been deep into the Taylor Swift like gay rabbit hole as well part of the job.

Have you ever heard Dolly?

Yes?

I had conspiracy.

That was one that I didn't hear about until I started touring more and people would pull me aside and be like, Dolly Parton's a lesbian and I didn't.

I'd never heard it until in real life, which is fun to hear her.

I love conspiracy theories that you see, like obviously we see them on our phones a lot, but I love queer people in real life being like have you heard this?

Exciting?

And I've got a PowerPoint.

Yes, I got a lot of things like sit down, I got a lot of shit about Dolly.

I need to tell you about.

You're on to cancel your play?

Yeah, you wouter sit down for a while.

You better scissor me intil eternity until I tell you about this.

Yes, yeah, well I guess that's it.

Wow.

Thanks for having me Roz.

I'm so happy you did this.

I love to getting to see you anytime me too.

Thanks for having me back, and let's go see a movie soon.

Please tell people where to find you and stuff.

Well, I'm at Rachel Scanling Comedy.

I'm on tour right now.

I've just dropped like ten more cities.

I'm going to be doing my hour in Los Angeles in March.

You can get tickets at Rachel Scanlincomedy dot com.

Where Where what where are you doing in LA.

At the main room of the Improv And then I got five shows in Seattle coming up as well, which they're gonna be really really fun.

So come get at the Neptune Theater at this other one, the Emerald City one short day.

And I have a podcast that comes out weekly called Two Dikes and a Mic.

I host it with Mackenzie Goodwin.

If you want to listen to that, it's at Two Dikes and a Mic.

But come see me do a live show because that's the best.

Yeah, yay.

Well you are my favorite Lydia.

Thank you, You're my favorite lad Well.

Thank you so much to Rachel Scanlan.

Hey, just another reminder.

You could see me in Los Angeles on Cinco de Mayo.

That's the fifth of May.

If you don't speak Espanol.

I will be at the Troubadour in West Hollywood doing a stand up show with some friends.

Oh, who's going to join me?

Mystery?

All right?

I love you all, both living and dead.

But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me came back.

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Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.

This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi.

My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kottner.

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Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac.

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