What's that at the bed?

It's spooky and jooky.

I'm really sure it's dead.

He's coming this way.

Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.

I Das.

Polles.

Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to ghost It by Roz Hernandez the podcaster.

I talk to people that I like about the Para normal.

I love this guest today, Vinnie Thomas.

He's been on the show before.

I can't believe it.

It was like two years ago.

That's crazy.

Uh, he's so funny.

A lot of people know his work on the internet.

He's also an actor that's popping up on TV these days quite a bit, and he's just like such a funny character actor like he does.

He does does great voices and stuff like that.

So check out his content if you've never seen it.

I think one of one of our favorites is the Pigeon at Pride, which is a classic, another classic that I love.

It's one of the popes that didn't win Pope, that was like, you know, in the running for pope, but didn't snatch the crown.

That's a funny one.

I don't know what it's called, but it's you all find it anyway.

I'm definitely in my internet ghost huntress era, and if you didn't know, I have several videos now that are on my YouTube of me ghost hunting and haunted hotel rooms with guys that I meet on Grinder, and it is something I'm very proud of.

I work really hard on it, and I would so appreciate if you checked it out.

If you haven't, people seem to be loving it, and I'm loving that, so I'm going to just keep doing them.

I have all these plans to go do some more ghost huntressings, so we're all turnand as the haunted doll on YouTube and then you know, once everyone's watched, then I could talk about those things more on the show because those are my ghost experiences.

Okay, let's talk to Vinnie Thomas on with the show.

I'm joined once again by Vinnie Thomas.

This is such a spooky podcast because I actually had no idea when Roz was going to do the Introoh catch out good?

What you were just telling me that you wanted to be a red carpet gig guy, like one of the ones on That's like.

So who you're wired to that?

I didn't want to be a red carpet gay guy.

I thought that was the only reasonable career path.

This, what I'm doing now seemed unattainable.

True.

What seemed attainable was being like a local news guy who was like, there's a new theme park opening, and the anchors love you because you're just like this little local gay guy and you're tearing up on grinder because you're not too famous to like tear it.

Up online career star, Yeah, totally.

I thought that's was the reason where I honestly probably would have tried to stay in Colorado.

But I would have got.

There's no red carpets there.

No, we're at We're at the opening of the new Pickley Wiggly.

I like that.

You're doing Regis filmin and explicably free.

Yeah, Wiggly, there are no pick Wigglies in Colorado.

Everyone please make a note.

Oh yeah, wow, it's ever too late to get a Picky Wiggly No to get into that world.

Yeah, that's true.

I could still do it.

Should I do it?

Now?

You know it's like they only ever have celebrities to do that.

Now, well now it's huge influencers.

Yes, Like Liza Kosche is doing red carpet stuff.

I don't know who that is, but that probably means that she's very popular and.

Cool because she's really I don't like follow, And then like the not necessarily James Charles, because I don't think James Charles would be comfortable having a conversation with a stranger.

But like a James Charles type is.

Who Yeah, what does James Charles always say?

I'm gay?

Now he calls his people oh sisters.

Oh doesn't really.

Did you see that video of him at I think it's a Disney World.

He's at Epcott and he's someone's filming him as he's filming himself take a drink, and the way his body is like lurched forward and his feet are like cocked into each other was so iconic and funny, and a lot of people made jokes about it.

Not me.

So.

Speaking of you, like cryptids, Yeah, I do.

I love cryptod because you're an animal lover big.

Time, and I think I've always loved I think, ever since I was a kid, the idea of secret monsters in places.

I think it's always fun.

One thing about you is that you are the caretaker of a snake, yes, named missus Gutierrez.

Her name is Missus Gutierrez Roz is the only person who remembers.

Her name because I know latinas.

She's got a big, fat ass and she speaks her mind.

I love her though I hate snakes, That's okay, But the fact that you love a snake like that means that you are not scared easily by creatures.

You're right, I'm not.

I don't think I'm scared easily by creatures, especially creatures that I know for a fact, like aren't gonna hurt me, you know what I mean.

Would you go bigfoot hunting?

I would.

I don't know that necessarily there is a bigfoot, but I love the idea of a big foot, like I would like going because I know what to look for, you know.

I think sometimes people don't take it seriously.

Like there's a show called Finding Bigfoot, misleading obviously because they don't find him.

But it's like five white people and they go into the woods and they smear a little bit of peanut butter on a log and they're like, we got his ass now, And then they come back the next day and the peanut butter has moved a little bit, and they're like, we know who that was, and like I could have been anything in the woods that touch that peanut butter.

You've got to do something, and I can't sell a TV show.

Yeah, isn't that crazy?

You did sell a TV show.

You made a TV show.

I was on a TV show.

Yeah, but maybe what I need to do is rub some peanut butter on me.

Say that and go out in the wood.

I've been begging you to rub some peanut butter.

Don't even look at it.

Don't even look at it.

It's nothing.

It's nothing.

It's barely a.

Lot of electricity around here.

There's nothing here.

Geeha, it's gonna leave a steak.

I bumped the cup a little bit, and Roz has stopped the production.

What happened?

There's water all over this clearly any water?

Do we need to send Sabrina in there?

Oh?

I'm so sorry.

I'm sorry to the main one and to the other one addicted to snitching.

By the way, you know what Sabrina will do to you if you don't clean that up.

I thought we were Latinas and you snitched on me.

You know, it's so funny about cryptids.

Today.

When I was driving here, I was running a little late, and there was a big truck that decided they were going to back up Parallel park, right, and you know that thing, and so I could I had to like wait to like move around them.

That license plate said Jersey Devil.

Yeah, that's a fun one.

Jersey Devil is a famous cryptid.

Absolutely Jersey Devil's if that one was spooky.

There was a show on Animal Planet called, Oh my God, I didn't even remember what it was, Finding Jersey's Devil, Finding Jersey Devil, And it was crazy because Animal Planet was supposed to be at animals, but eventually it jumped the shark and it just started making shows about anything, right, And so there was a whole series about cryptids and people having cryptid experiences.

And there was a Jersey Devil episode and a moth Man episode, and those were very scary.

It was like glowing eyes and like a furry man perched on someone's roof.

That was terrifying to me.

Hi, well, speaking of Jersey Devils, did you know that Snooky is going to get her own ghost hunting TV show?

Snooky Polizzi, Nicole Snooky Polizi, that's not right, ros I wanted to go through some of the headlines today.

I only talk about the most important news on the show, and I like to talk about different paranormal related topics.

And here's one for you.

I got an article.

From Uh, you don't even know.

I got an article from Deadline that says Jersey Shores Nicole Snooky Polizi to star and Paranormal Rookie ghost hunting series for Crave, which I believe is Canadian.

And if it's not Canadian, it's for sure LGBT Crave is like Crave is poppers.

What is Crave.

Crave coming to Crave TV.

I think it's Canadian.

No, it's Canadian.

It says Nicole Snooky Plizi is trading her family vacations at the Jersey Shore for ghost hunting in Craves news series Snooky colon Paranormal Rookie.

They're cackling back there, I can hear.

The A episode series Center premiere in twenty twenty six, follows the Beloved Meatball, as Deade called her a.

Meatball, beloved I beloved, beloved Meatball, and.

She pursues her lifelong passion for the paranormal across Canada's most haunted locations.

Oh there's a quote from her.

I've been ups.

I've always been obsessed with the paranormal.

It's the real passion of mine.

Yeah, that is how she talked.

Yeh, that's absolutely how she talked.

I think that's how she sucks, she says.

Getting to explore Canada's haunted history with Kevin who's Kevin, and actually learning how to investigate spirits.

This is a dream come true.

I'm scared, I'm excited.

Yeah, and I'm ready to prove I can do this.

The ghost better watch out because this mama is coming for.

Them so much to impact here.

First of all, I love anti Italian x rhetoric.

I think it's some of the funniest stuff in the world.

For them to refer to her as what do they call her, America's meatball, beloved meatball, Okay, America's big Stromboli or whatever the hell?

Is such a trip.

You got the voice perfect.

Ultimately, she is what's her face from Little Shop of Horrors?

Oh, she's like, I'm web ghosts.

Yeah, he just touched my button little more.

Yeah.

Oh wait, what does she do?

I'm a meat ball?

What did they say?

What was their euphemism for fucking smashing?

Getting smashed by a ghost?

Oh?

My word, Jim Tanned Laundry.

Yeah, Jim Tann Laundry.

That was the name of a man that she was sleeping with, Jim Tann Launch Laundry.

Yeah.

I never watched that show but needed to die.

But I feel like I get it.

Yeah, I mean this I'm excited for.

Here's the thing.

Celebrities like this will do anything ghost hunting shows and those I feel like it's hard because ghost any shows you either have like expert people that are kind of boring or really exciting people but they don't know what they're doing.

Yeah, so it's like hard to find both.

And I mean, which is why I think people should watch my YouTube channel called ros Hernandez the Haunted Doll.

Yeah, y'all aren't doing anything else.

You've been watching?

Yes, thank you.

New Jersey does have a rich history of ghost related TV shows, obviously.

Teresakopoo though kind of wait, what is that show called.

Long Island Medium?

And she speaks to the New Jersey Oh fuck, oops, not New Jersey.

I thought, I literally before we start records that you are so smart.

You understand why I could make the mistake.

She was wearing a bumpet.

She looks the way.

She looks different.

It's different.

The culture was homogenized.

Then yeah, we need to get Snooky right down, Snooky to come on this show.

Do you want me to totally cut everything you just said about her?

Then?

Yes, when you laughed at her and called her meatball, should be cut that out.

But this isn't deadline, this is.

A Can you go ahead and cut out the part where Roz called Snooky a big guido wat meatball?

I didn't say any did you know I wanted?

I said she was a meatball and that she's very exciting.

Yeah, no, I'd love to have Snookie on.

She's an icon.

So yes, let's you know you should do one of these?

Is Tiffany Pollard.

She would be fun to watch.

She would be really fun.

Oh my god, I mean I just remember, why isn't it we've.

We've she's been on my dream list for a long time.

As a guest.

Yes, oh yeah, that'd be fun.

Who else?

Probably you know who?

We had?

Julia Fox?

Oh, yes, she's on the list.

Julia Fox has said that she has ghosts stuff O wat and she'd be great here.

Gee, how you gotta bleep this name we had?

Why do you have to bleep it.

She didn't show thanks for the spoiler ghost.

No, I'm so mad about that.

She's got anything else going on.

Why would you bleep her name?

I was wow fully dressed beautifully, not like this.

It's good to know.

That's amazing.

I was dressed so beautifully because I'm like, it's yeah, the people are gonna watch this.

Absolutely didn't show.

I get down here.

There's been coordination with her people and our people.

Yeah, we're ready to go.

Never shout up, which would have been impactful.

What the messages in the store, you guys sending like were they strongly worded but like kind just in case, like she was running late or something, And at what point did they turn into like more sharp?

You know what?

They just literally didn't respond.

So then we're like, oh, Whoopsie, can we reschedule with you or whatever?

Silence?

Mind you, she's still alive.

I've checked.

Here's another headline for you.

Okay, did you know, like Katie Perry jested, trudeauwer together.

Isn't that so weird?

Like sometimes I look at Justin Trudeau and I'm like, he's a little bit of a dumb girl, do you know what I mean?

Sometimes I'm like, okay, I could see it.

And then he's with Katy Perry and I'm like, okay, absolutely that now I see it makes sense.

They're just two dumb girls.

It's perfect.

Oh wow, am I.

She didn't give you pair too much.

I think all the time about her going up into space and singing what a wonderful world?

And they don't specify it, but I know her songs.

No or no, she's saying somewhere over the rainbow or something.

I know it was a Loui Armstrong version.

She didn't do the voice like him, did she I don't know.

I like to imagine that she did help me.

Katy Perry was up there and she was like, guys are.

And like Gail King is like shut up, please, don't maage you to shut up.

I like to imagine she did that because it would be so funny.

Well, this is a very Canada heavy uh top of the show here.

So apparently she is with Justin Trude down now and she consulted a psychic Good to hook them up.

This is according to pres Hilton.

Oh Good, talk about someone who's still alive.

My god, res Hilton, Uh oh, actually no, it says that a well a source.

I always wonder who these people are.

Who are these sources?

A source told Daily Mail that the pop star has garnered the help of something called a Claire Cognisance psychic.

Great dragon name, great drag name.

Yeah, my name is Claire Cognitiate.

My name is Claire Cognisance.

And I'll tell you what's what.

And then she has a little themes on.

So yeah, she's she went to this Claire Cogni since psychic to help her with who she's calling the love of her life according to this According to the source, it says Katie is fascinated by psychic power, so why not harness it.

In the past, psychics have worked really well for her, so she is leaning on the wonderful energy to give her an advantage with Justin because he matters a lot to her.

She is really in love with him and thinks he is the one, so she is being careful with how she treats him.

The psychic is guiding her.

Okay, I think they're probably both fascinated by psychics in the same way birds are fascinated with little mirrors?

Do you know what I mean?

Like that, it's just something to tiptap away on.

It's fun sure, and it says in case you didn't know, this isn't new for miss Perry.

She casts a spell to find Orlando Bloom, she says.

Right, and she probably cast it through her representation.

The spell was please give me his numbers, please.

Get hook me up with him.

Yeah, there it is.

Yeah.

She's into psychics, numerology, angel numbers, past life healers, and tarot cards.

She's into all of it.

Yeah.

And you can tell she's a former Christian because she is trying to fill the hole that God left behind.

So we probably can't get Katie now.

Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, you bleep all of it out.

No, no, no, no, it's fine.

It came from you.

She's not going to do this show.

She's not going to talk to me.

I know that much.

She's way out of my league to talk to me.

Yeah.

I don't think she's going to come out here.

But you know what, I think that's great.

Would you go to a psychic for love guidance?

No?

I think I just worry they would say something scary.

You know.

I don't want to get bad news, first and foremost, and worse than bad news.

I don't want to get generic news, right.

I don't want to hear something like it's just around the corner, because what does that really mean.

I know, I had a friend who used to see a psychic and then right after she would go see another psychic who was close by to confirm what the first psychics I.

Get second opinion, Well, my whole thing is like.

The psychics were so close.

I'm sure they were talking to.

Each other, you know what I mean, think they knew each other.

If you're going to use two psychics, make sure they're a crosstown and from wildly different cultures that they don't communicate, you know.

I think that's my rule.

Yeah, but I feel like if you're on the same turf like you, probably that's probably like your enemy psychic.

Oh you think they compete like a Jack in the Box and Wendy's.

Yes, okay, yeah, absolutely, Wendy and Jack in the Box are not kay kying and being like, oh did you hear what these people ordered?

But they're not doing that.

They're not sisters, they're not as well.

Believe it or not, sometimes these psychics can be a little sketchy.

I don't believe it.

And here's an article I feel like, it's possible we covered this, but if not, we'll just briefly go.

Was I too mean about Katy Perry?

No, she didn't add for cyber trucks pretty early on, and that was like.

Remember her with what's his name?

Rick Perry?

What oh?

Rick Caruso?

Yeah?

Again, And I don't think she did it because she's like.

Wait, who's Rick Perry?

Is that this singer from no.

I think Perry used to be a politician way back in the day.

I think it Texas.

Yeah, okay, and she was Rick Caruso.

She was Rick Caruso.

But I don't think she did it to make a strong point.

I just think she Caruso, Well, we got paid to do a thing and just did it.

Well, I'm a meat ball.

America's beswumbolly.

I love the words strum bully.

I know it's amazing.

Okay.

So this is an article from New York Times.

Whoa Okay, we went from Perez Hilton to New York Times.

It says two Pennsylvania psychics stole over six hundred thousand dollars to remove curses.

Prosecutors say, wait, they stole it.

Well, they're saying stole because they're claiming that these psychics used deceitful tactics.

Right, so, oh no, the magicians were deceptive.

Who could have seen this coming?

Here's the thing, so it says.

For nearly a year, prosecutors in Pennsylvania said a man and woman selling their services as psychics had convinced one woman to keep paying them to lift a curse that kept her from being happy.

This curse they used deceitful tactics.

The authorities said that two got the woman to give them about five hundred and ninety six thousand dollars in cash and property purfault.

They also took luxury items from her and another client, including concert tickets, Airbnb reservations, clothes, and gift cards.

You know what, Roz, I love this because they said they were lifting a curse that caused on happiness.

And what is money if not a curse that causes unhappiness?

I'll take the money, right exactly what, having feeling I'd be a lot more happy if I had six hundred thousand dollars.

But maybe, in like a grand sense of thing, it is her earthly attachments, including her money, the things she's spending it on ultimately, that are making it her unhappy, so give it to someone else.

Well, it didn't work.

She died, but now she's suing.

Okay, but ah.

I mean I don't want to blame this woman.

But is she older?

I think that's when it gets sad, is when it's an older person.

But sometimes it's still like, girl, what were you thinking?

Like?

And I've talked about this on another podcast.

They talk about it all the time.

But the woman who sent what was like thirty grand to a man pretending to be Brad Pitt in the hospital?

Yeah, come on.

Crazy, you know what I mean?

What do you mean?

Did you hear about that?

No?

But I've been giving money to George Clooney, oh yeah, and a prince.

Well it's helping, Roz, I'll say that.

I think it's really helping.

And you're changing the world.

So this place they were doing uh readings out of a place called Jenkintown Psychic Visions.

Okay, sorry, Roz just looked up into the air as if she saw something.

I did commercials for them, now, oh yeah, my commercial psychic visions.

Give us your money.

So it says the main target of the scheme, the woman who was convinced that she was cursed, and they're keeping her anonymous, so I don't know how old she is.

She was a longtime customer of a shop offering psychic readings and other fortune readings called Jenkintown's Psychic Visions.

Detective Jonathan Kelsey an investigator for the Prosecutor's office.

An investigator for the prostitutions?

Is that a quote from something?

Oh, but it's fun.

Investigator for the prostitution.

Investigative for the prostitution.

I'm just thinking for the prostitution.

Your honor.

Well, basically, well, let's see here.

When that client, who was not named in the court records, called the business in September of twenty twenty two, the psychic miss Marks answered the phone and identisified herself as Naomi, stating that she had taken over the business from the previous owner.

Okay, so basically they just kept they just kept getting more and more money.

Ever so, so she was like lying about her identity.

Yeah, to lift the curse.

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

They said, well, we need more money.

You know.

They kept being like, Oh, if you really want this curse gone, you're gonna have to get us those two tickets to Aerosmith or whatever.

Yeah, you want this curse gone dream on?

Wait, that makes me think of something.

You have tickets to Aerosmith.

Walk this way there.

It is so basically yeah, this poor woman, but it's very sad.

Now, how much for me?

Yeah?

Once thirty dollars have been spent and the curse is still there, I'm moving on to the decks like exactly.

Yeah, I don't think I would spend I guess the curse would have to be very bad.

I would have to be like puking up like rats.

You know what I mean.

If I was puking up rats, then I would go see a curse doctor for sure.

But then missus Gutierra is your snake wick.

Oh wait, that's a benefit.

Yeah, like a mama bird.

Okay, I hear you.

But here's the thing.

I started getting real shady.

So ms Mark started asking the client to send her photos of herself and family and other people, and then she threatened to do reputable reputational damage and personal repercussions.

So she started being like and then she's like, you need to give me money, a chanel bag and property from this other client.

Wow, I guess there was another client involved in this.

Do you think that some people are paypigs and they just don't understand that they're pay pigs.

I've heard about this before.

So these are people.

Those are people that are like, take my money.

Yeah, paypigs are like mistress, mistress, I'm sure you want an allowance and then you like call him a piece of shit and you're like, give me a dollars, I'm gonna buy shoes.

Does your TikTok?

Do you get tons of men that DM you saying stuff like that.

I used to get more when I had a smaller following.

Yeah, but these men are constantly like, wouldn't you like me to treat you nice?

Yeah?

And some of them literally you don't have to do anything sexual for them.

It just makes them really horny that you're taking their money and they're being scammed.

And I think some people maybe that scratches an itch and they don't recognize it as a kink yet.

And so miss thing who is anonymous.

But by the way, if you're being scammed by someone named miss marks, come on like she's kind of spelling it out for you in her name.

She missed the mark.

Well, no, she just like she is a mark, you know what I mean?

Oh, a mark.

Yeah what does that mean again?

Someone who you scam?

You know this?

Like, wait, is that true?

A mark is like a pushover who you can easily scam am.

I crazy?

No, You're not crazy, that's right.

Yeah.

Yeah, so anyone named Mark I never thought about, but I never like apply that to their name.

Yeah.

Wow, very true.

Sorry, you were in the you were in the mix of the story.

Now, I mean that's pretty much yet great, says two clients in Pennsylvania.

Weren't miss marks First disgruntled together Wait wait as I go A YOUP review from April twenty twenty four.

First, Jenkinton Jenkintown Psychic Visions had a customer complaining about being asked to give a woman named Naomi a chanel bag.

She knew I was at a dark place because of the traumatic situation in my life and took my weakness and ran with all that's sad.

Well, of course, it's like these people are like grieving and stuff, and it's like that they're so vulnerable.

Why are you going to a psychic and jankie town to begin with?

You go to the Jakie toown psychic?

Hang on, let's call jenkin tough.

Are you calling them?

What if I did?

Great?

Wait, what are you gonna Let's wait, let's think about what you're gonna say.

First, I'm gonna be like, hey, have a Chanelle Paris that I need to get rid of.

Is there anybody?

Because I was going to be like, asked for a reading, but then obviously they'd want money and you'd have to give them your credit card number over their phone, which you cannot do.

You don't know me.

Wait is it?

Are you ready?

Yeah?

Hi?

I I have a Chanel bag that I need to get rid of.

And I also have this problem where my voice keeps changing.

Yeah, and I'm looking for love as well.

So can you help me?

I have so much money.

I live in a beautiful mc mansion in Sedona, Arizona.

And I can't find any psychics here.

But I have a pool and a hairless cat.

And those are very expensive.

Very expensive.

My mother was an heiress and my father was in Raila.

My father was in the meatball industry.

My father was in meatballs.

My father, I'm a meatball.

Aris if they aired to a meatball Ford.

Jane, I've never prank Phoe called somebody.

Oh you're missing out?

Do you do that often.

We used to.

I used to do it more when as a kid, we used to do it in school.

That was scary.

I think he'll be fine.

He can't call you back.

Oh, I'm so sorry.

Patton Oswald just texted me, but I'll check that later.

He never text me.

What did he say?

I don't know.

It's a slur.

No, don't talk about my friend like that.

Okay, I got one more for you.

Sure, And this is a good one.

Okay.

Jd Vance.

This is from Radar Online and it's about jd Vance with UFOs.

It says he was just on New York Posts pod Force one, which is a podcast.

This is what he said.

Things have been so busy, but this is like the crazy person inside of me, and there's you know, all of us put on the tinfoil hat.

From time to time, I wonder like, I can't allow myself to become so busy that I spend the next three years and I don't get to the bottom of this.

So I will get to the bottom of this, but it's going to take me a little time.

That's him talking about UFOs, but then he goes on to say that he Christian things about it, so he says, I wouldn't say that I do or don't believe it.

I'm a big believer that there are things out there that we can't explain.

If another person sees an alien, maybe I see an angel or a demon.

I think there are spiritual forces working on the physical world that a lot of us don't see or understand.

Right right, Okay, I guess my thing is.

Sometimes super Catholic or super Christian people are hesitant to believe in intelligent aliens because it implies that God did it again, do you know what I mean?

Which is very scary for them.

Because it's like, girl, I don't remember this chapter.

And yeah the book, where's the chapter about how God created the gloopy Gorpians?

Exactly?

That's not in the Bible.

There are no gloopy Gorpians in the Bible.

There is now on the arc.

Yeah, they have no gloopy gorpiece.

They had no creatures from arrival putting their big hands on the glass.

Where was the Claire cognix were Where was Claire cognis?

Where was the Claire cognizance?

Where was the constitution your honor?

I think for the prostitution too.

He's like it could have been an angel or a demon.

I'm like, I think when they did that.

You remember when they did the whole UFO talk with Senate or whatever.

Yeah, how could I forget the.

UFO hearings and the UFOs they described were like cubes kind of moving in an extra dimensional way.

Yeah, that doesn't seem like a demon or an angel to me because in the Bible, angels were like they had the head of a hefer, a lion, and a man, and they were shaped like wheels and had a million eyes.

So am I an angel?

Yeah?

Absolutely, describe you to a tea.

He asked rhetorically.

Is it aliens or is it our guardian angel, oh God or of force that actively wishes to harm us?

I don't know the answer to that question.

What I try to do is say my prayers, be a good person and do a good job.

Okay, tired of him, I'll say that he's not doing any of that.

Well, find always someone says that.

Yeah.

I like thinking about aliens because it represents a form of life that is totally foreign to our planet, right, like we are carbon based life forms.

But it's actually sometimes, if you think about it, the more efficient kind of life is a silicon based life form, which is what a lot of people are scared.

You look at me when you said that silicon based, silicon based life form over here.

Anyway, a lot of people think AI is going to eventually evolve into some sort of silicon based life.

They can travel through space and we wonldn't even be able to like perceive what that looks.

Like, Oh my god, that's so scary.

Crazy.

See, but these aliens come down here.

You really think Ice is gonna let that fly?

Could you imagine the Ice guys who are like, you know, their paunches can't even be shoved into their little vests, trying to chase around a cube that can like fly in every direction and go through walls.

They're trying to shoot it with guns with masks on.

That's the funniest thing in the world, Like the cube trying to pull the mask off, and they're like squealing like pigs rolling around on the ground.

Yes, I do think that would be the reality.

They'd be like, you don't have paperwork, get out of here.

Show me your papers, and the aliens.

Like, how did you just do that?

That?

I don't know?

It just comes from me.

Are you really an alien.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Wait, that's kind of gaggy.

Get you imagine that is really scary.

Yeah, I liked it though, I'm pretty fucked up.

You guys.

That was cool.

Thank you can show you a haunted doll?

Is it the same one from last time?

Yeah?

Okay, it's time for the dolls are living.

This is a haunted doll from eBay dot com.

Okay, and his name is oh mail Doll Jacob Jieha show is Jacob?

You got it?

Rose?

Jacob is currently going for one hundred and twenty five usd EU.

Hey what how are you going to give a baby a sunburn?

Hey?

That is our vice president.

Okay, what we have.

Here is really early receding hairline.

I'll see those are plugs.

Honey, it's a baby.

Here's the thing.

If you have the option to make a doll that's a baby, don't make it look tired.

Paul Giamanni and John Adams, we see the third picture.

Please.

Oh and he's like raising his hand in a way that to me is like, ugh, I got something to say.

Yeah, Like at the town meeting.

There's something about his prehensile toes.

You can tell he comes from a species that lives in the trees.

Oh good, oh.

Good, Yeah good.

They've got a ruler next to him.

Not bensile.

Okay, so this one comes with a bio, of course.

Dressed like he works at Freddy's Steakburgers.

What's that?

You don't know freddy Steakburgers.

No, it's what it is.

It's they make Colorado steak burgers.

I don't know if it's just it's very delicious Freddy's Custard Steakburgers.

Me Jacob Jacob was around three years old.

He is the cutest little fella.

He always looks sad and lonely, even though he definitely isn't lonely.

I feel like his arms move slightly and his hair definitely changes directions.

He came to me about a year ago, and lately I could definitely feel he was ready to be listed.

He feels like he could make someone smile.

I don't know anything about his story.

I feel like he communicated with the other, just says with the other, okay about that, more than he did with me.

He loves circus things like elephants and watching any circus related cartoons.

I feel like he may be more open to his next keeper.

He's just so amazing.

He has such a white energy all around him.

He does Yeah, why.

Is a white energy?

He communicates with dowsing rods, a pendulum, Yeah, balloon lights and flashlights.

Please ask all questions before purchasing.

Here's my initial thought, one of my initial thoughts.

Yeah, normally, when I think of a haunted doll, I think it has to be a certain age for me to kind of accept that it's haunted.

This seems like one of those realistic babies that have kind of popped off in the past.

I don't know, eight years real babies or whatever they're This seems like a real baby, like a human.

Yeah, like they they make them for what.

They call those real babies.

I think they call them real babies.

I'm not in the community.

You don't know those real baby real baby.

You know what I do for living is I'm a real baby maker.

I make real baby.

That's an industry.

It is.

It is people make like custom real babies and then freaks like to take them out in public as if they're real babies.

This is one of those.

You can tell, it's like a lacon real baby, And I just don't know if I'm like if I'm an ancient demon, right, if my name is like balthro Ghoul or something.

Am I going to settle in a real baby?

Or am I going for like a cracked porcelain situation from the twenties?

You know?

Yeah, but this one has more energy and it's not gonna break.

I'm looking at this child and I'm like, he's going to age into kind of into kind of a swinger, kind of a Margueritaville type individual.

I'm not getting this is haunted necessarily.

It's not that I'm going to buy.

It for you.

Girl.

What am I gonna do with the one hundred and twenty five dollars?

Don't buy that for me?

Okay, well then you should have a lot to say.

I just think the story.

I wish she was more detailed.

She wasn't very detailed.

She was like sometimes his hair moves.

I have no idea about the other owner.

Please realize that by adopting Jacob, you are potentially inviting a spirit into your home.

They are not toys and should only be handled by adults.

I prefer only adults eighteen and over purchased my items.

Light a white candle to welcome your potential spirit.

I do not guarantee you this experience.

Yeah, it's giving sea monkeys, it's giving.

Maybe they'll show up, maybe they won't, you know, but.

True, you can't legally sell intangible objects.

I wish it was more haunted.

I wish you had had more lore to it.

You know, well he likes the circus.

Yeah, but is that haunted or is that just like charming?

You know, people love the circus, or they do now that they've stopped abusing elephants.

Thank you, thank you?

Do you know I wasn't a circus as a kid, hunchback?

What will?

What?

Were you in the circus?

Tired over it?

Overwork?

Under?

See you being in Cirq day Slay as like cirqu day Salet.

Let me finish.

I'm gonna make you look so good.

I could see you being in Cirq Day's Lay as the woman who comes out and she just like she's like you know what I mean, She's just like making noises and she's singing like really beautifully, and she's like pointing, and then acrobats are spinning around and stuff the singing lady or one of the charming.

Hunchbags, the charming hunchbacks all right, Cirque day Silai, would you buy this doll?

He's in my home right now?

Is he really?

You didn't?

Okay, I didn't buy him.

I would not know because your standard for like a haunted object is much higher.

I don't want I don't want to find out.

Oh so even if the person insisted it was a good ghost inside of that doll, you wouldn't purchase that doll.

Now.

I don't want to live with a human, good person.

I don't want to live with anybody.

Okay, amazing, I believe you can.

I tell you some ghost voices.

Yeah, it's time for EVP or ev please.

Okay, I got two ghost voices for you.

These are both from YouTube.

Right, I would like you to tell me what you hear, and then I will tell you what the person that posted it believes the ghost is saying.

Okay, This first one was posted by Space Coast Paranormal Society.

I don't know the location of this one, but what is this ghost saying?

Vinnie?

Can I hear a woman?

Time?

Of course, you can move the camera, Vinnie.

Well, that is not what Spaceical Paranormal Society thought.

Oh did they think it was a oh cute hair, b I'm not scary.

See you really don't care?

Or d Claire cognizance.

Uh I think they think it's probably ce.

You really don't care.

Yeah that's what they think.

Yeah, that is what they thought.

All right, here's another one.

This is from South Yorkshire Paranormal so eight three seven three.

And okay, so we have to factor in the accent.

This is Yorkshire.

Oh god, you're so good for Okay, what is this ghost saying?

Okay, it's real quiet, it's really quiet.

Oh he's saying bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, you beat you're a bitch.

Wow.

Yeah, here's some options.

That's Daisy from Dalt Nobby saying bitch.

Is it a oh pinch pinch o oh pincha is it b you bitch's be could be other things?

Okay, is it c you betcha?

Oh no, it's or d.

You little page like oh you little peach?

That's too long?

You little?

Do they call people peaches across the pond?

Oh it's bitch, it's so bitch.

You're right, yeah it is.

It's you bitch is what they believe in said?

Let me play it again, you bitch?

Alright?

Any last thing.

Okay, I'm gonna ask you just some of your thoughts on different things and a sort of like in this conversation.

Yeah, we did talk about UFOs for a second, but what do you.

Think about UFOs?

Yeah, I think it's impossible that there's not life on other planets.

I don't think it's possible that there's not.

I think when you think about the size of the universe, it's super unlikely that they visit us.

But it's also totally likely that they would arrive in a form that we don't even recognize as life.

Right.

I mentioned silicon based life before.

It might be something that we view as like sedentary, Right, that could land and we just think it's a rock, But that could be a form of life.

It could also exist on a timescale that we're not familiar with, right, Like we have our set lifespans, But there could be organisms that live for such a long time and move so slowly that we can't even perceive them because they're just on a totally different life scale.

You know.

I definitely don't think aliens are bipedal.

I don't think they resemble people at all.

And if they did, then there is a god and he seated different planets with life, and that there's a set just has a lot of philosophical implications that there's a set path that life must continue on to achieve some sort of similar form.

But you mean that you think that means that there's a.

God if ether.

If we discover that there are aliens and they're like bipeds and they have eyes and a mouth, then that that must mean that there's some sort of design or some sort of intention behind That would be such a massive coincidence.

I don't think it's possible, really, right, I.

Mean, I guess, so.

Think about everything that had to go right for humans to evolve on Earth.

You know, we the first amphibians like Tiktolic emerge from the water, and so from there you have the like synapsids, the like reptile, you know, mammal kind of animals.

Missus gutierres Kutierrez, who's actually a squad mate.

She comes much late.

But sorry, queen, it's just squaw may she's a squaw mate.

She's in squamata squamata, some squamalta with the lizards.

Oh that sounds delicious.

And then take the squamata with my strom boats take.

Model with Stromboli.

At one point, humans almost went extinct too, which a lot of people like don't necessarily think about.

But there was like a population of us that left Africa and almost all of them died out, and then another population left and then we're descended from that population genetically.

So for all of that to have lined up and gone right here and then on another planet, it's like, Okay, someone is in charge.

Then like someone someone is making bipeds in their kind of rough image, whether it's God or it's a super intelligent being that we're not aware of.

Totally possible.

I mean, but canna just be like every every place where organisms like us can exist, they do.

Yeah, but would they I mean, would they end up looking like us?

Like, No, they're a little bit different.

They got bigger eyes, Like.

Oh, they got slightly bigger eyes.

They're just like kind of Zoey Deschanel.

They're just got like beautiful, big charming eyes.

No, they're like aliens.

I think here's another good point.

Dinosaurs went extinct here, right, Dinosaurs had been on the planet for one hundred millions, for like tens of millions of years, right, and then an asteroid came out and wiped out the dinosaurs.

If that asteroid never arrived, humans would not have then evolved from the like tiny shrew like mammals that were living in the shadow of dinosaurs.

The only reason mammals have developed and like thrived on Earth is because the dinosaurs went extinct.

Yeah, so for that to happen on another planet, right, there are these huge giant animals that then an asteroid wipes out and then a little primate evolves and then they turn into a biped just like us.

That's crazy.

That just wouldn't be possible.

Yeah, but it's all crazy.

I think that specific fact that the Earth is just floating, that's crazy.

The Earth is not floating.

But you know, the Earth is not floating, and what is it?

It stuck?

The Earth is like in the sun.

The sun is we're in the Sun's orbit, the Sun is pressing down on space time.

Or the Earth is just sitting there.

And that's crazy.

Absolutely, that's crazy.

Yes, did I says a stupid no?

No, no, no, no, I like it is floating there, that's gaggy.

It's just sitting there.

Yeah, te the Sun is just sitting there.

Yeah, it never thinks to just you know what today Today, I'm going to bump in bump into another planet.

Yeah, and you know, at one point something did bump into Earth, and that's how we get the moon.

Also crazy, that's that's how we got Snook, and.

That's how we got a big lasagna bumped into the Earth and broke Snooky right off.

And now just gonna have a shoe.

That's exciting.

Thank you.

That was very educational for the show.

Sorry, no, it was good.

We need that from time to time.

What if they're by penal.

If they're by penal, that's a different story then, honey, I'll be busy.

If they're by penal, I'm going immediately.

I'm having a conversation with Elon Musk and I'm heading there right now.

Absolutely.

All right, let me ask another one.

All right?

Astrology?

Yeah, you're into it, that's it.

I don't know.

Sometimes I'm not into it, and then sometimes I'm very into it.

Right, Like, it's not something I thought about until I moved to LA mostly because I'm a cancer allegedly.

Such a cancer.

You think I don't know.

I don't know anything about any of them.

Neither do I.

Oh, I'm shocked.

You don't know anything about it.

Okay, but no, I don't know that kind of stuff.

I don't think I behaved like a cancer.

But then I told someone that and they were like, oh, check your other things, like you're you're Luno watch I'm a call it and you're rising who done it?

And I was like, okay, I'll look at that.

And I give them the chart and they were like, okay, this all lines up because actually you're you're a gemin e troll.

You're yes, And I was like, okay, I guess that works that a speragus is in orbit and you're asparagus is in the water.

Like it just doesn't make any.

Sense, but so you're a Fire's fine.

Sometimes someone will say something that really resonates and I'm like, okay, maybe I'm into it.

Yeah, But then someone will say something it's just totally off base and I'm like, never mind.

So just like etymuse, I think, so you just you.

Don't put a lot of weight into it.

No, but I always sound like a dick with like you sound like you sound like a dick.

If you go into a room and you're like I don't believe in this.

I know, like it's very like I'm an atheist, you know, like, who cares?

That's like not the fun choice to make.

It isn't fun.

Yeah, at the end of the day, it's.

Not fun being serious.

But I'm glad we are.

Okay.

You know what is fun?

What not fucked up conspiracy theories?

Do you have any not fucked up conspiracy theories that.

You believe in?

Be is there anything that I feel like you would probably have?

Some about animals or something?

Oh my gosh, I.

Mean it can be a little fucked up.

I'm just talking like, no, not QAnon, Like I don't want like that.

Are they talking in your hair?

Did they say QAnon?

No?

No, But I'm just saying, like we I do think that people on the left need to reclaim conspiracy theories.

Is something fun again?

And not like these people are eating babies.

I mean I think eating babies.

Yeah.

The big one that I think everyone believes in is the government killed JFK.

No, that was a close one.

Was a close one, so close.

Yeah, well that is one that people.

I think everyone says that though.

Do I have conspiracy theories?

The alien one?

I don't know if it's conspiracy theory, but I do believe aliens are there and the government is familiar with them.

But I don't think that's conspiracy anymore.

They like set it, you know.

Do you believe that there's like like the Illuminati.

Yeah, there are societies like there's one specifically that's in I think NorCal Oh.

I forget what this club is called.

Can you guys look up like society of rich and powerful men in Northern California themselves.

I don't know what it's called.

But it's on a huge like ranch and all the kids who work, they like hire kids from high school to work there because they don't have histories and they know they're not journalists.

They drive them out to the location and like blacked out vans.

They don't see where it is.

Conan O'Brien is in it, Barack Obama was in it.

There were a ton of presidents in it.

They Bohemian Club, Yeah, the Bohemian Club Grove, literally Bohemian Grove.

The Manhattan Project I think was first discussed at a table there, like all these world leaders and things make huge decisions about the world in this one place.

But yeah, are you a member?

I'm not a member.

It costs like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year or something something extraordinary to be a member.

And there's a twenty year long wait list.

Let's find their number.

Absolutely a rose, I'm not ruining my opportunity.

I want to get in there.

I think, yeah, you probably could.

Do you have to be a man?

I think yeah, I think you do have to be a man.

I think someone who worked there was telling me a story.

He has a ton of information about this place.

I'm not going to say who it is.

It could be anyone, but apparently one guy like a member.

Be honest, No, he's not a member.

He worked there when he was young.

I guess he was serving stuff at a dinner party and some guy, and I forget which guy was, got up, put his cock on the table and said, I love pussy, and like everyone cheered.

These are the most powerful men in the world.

By the way, there is a number.

I'm not even kidding you.

I'm sure there is.

They They literally they would give the drivers who drove, the teenagers who worked there.

They would give them different roots so that no one for sure knew where the place was.

And like if they communicated about it, they couldn't like assemble.

Yeah, so there is I think there are societies like that where people make big decisions of course that most of the public is wholly unaware of.

Yeah, I don't necessarily fit.

I know if it hits the mark of like the illuminati, but that's basically an illuminati, right.

I think sometimes people are looking for zebras when they should be looking for horses.

I mean, some people look at zebra'shen they should be looking for horses, Like you're looking for a gilded society where they're underground and a sewer making decisions when really there's this giant club where they are making those decisions that everyone just kind of knows about.

But conspiracy there is don't pay attention to for some reason.

Okay, last one, Okay, what do you think about?

That's it?

What do you think about?

What do you think about?

Right?

What do you think about what happens when we die?

This is a kind of a light note to end on.

Yeah, I mean I would like to think I go to where all of my kind of ancestors go and we like hang out and have fun.

But I think death changes our form.

I mean, there's a quote about how everyone is kind of a drop of water that's falling, and that's our life is like being a drop of water and falling, and then when you die, you fall into the ocean and you just become kind of part of this whole, and that's life.

It's like the drop and then you're in the ocean, and that's it.

I don't know what it looks like.

I think if you're a raised Christian.

I was raised Christian, you're kind of raised with this very conventional idea of the afterlife, where it's like you walk hand in hand on a road and you meet God and he's a person.

But the Bible never really describes God as like a man or a person, and it certainly doesn't describe the afterlife as something physical.

So I think we turn into a different kind of entity.

But I don't have any evidence for any of this.

I don't know for sure what happens.

I don't think it's nothingness.

Okay, yeah, that's enough of an answer.

Just you think there's something.

I think we know we exist, and therefore we know ourselves.

Out of existence.

What about reincarnation?

Is that a part of that?

I don't think so.

I think that gets into logistics for me that I don't I don't know.

Maybe no one knows.

They're right right, Like it's the big mystery finding it out.

When little kids are like, oh, little kids things heaven, you just tell them heaven.

Oh.

When little kids are like I used to be a comedian named Vinnie Thomas.

Yeah, and they're like what And then they're like they like, they're like that comedian that was on Ghosted and then they like google it, and then you start saying things like then like the kids starts saying things.

That never happened to me, but I look forward to when it does.

But I mean that does that that happens?

Is that just a coincidence?

Maybe I don't know.

I have no idea.

Do you believe you believe in reincarnation?

What would you like to be reincarnated as?

Or who?

I think this is my last one?

I think we have Like you think you've achieved enlightenment, you think this is the last to Samsara and you're like, yeah, absolutely, what's wrong with that?

Nothing's wrong with it, Roz, I'm laughing too much.

I think I'm gonna I think this is the babe period and I feel good about it.

And then you get to you get to enlighten you're onto the next plane.

Yeah, where can we find you?

You can follow me on Instagram and TikTok at v I n N underscore.

Ay y, that's at.

V I n N underscore a y y very good content.

Thank you, thanks so much for joining me today.

I had a lot of fun.

Did you learn anything, ros I did?

I learned about maybe one of the ugliest dolls I've ever seen.

Way he was talking about me when he said that that was wait a second, one of the ugliest dollars over.

Thank you so much, Davetti.

We caught you up on some of the most important pressing news these days.

I'm excited for Snooky's upcoming show and hopefully we can get her on here to promote it when it comes out.

So make sure you watch Paranormal Rookie, hosted by Snookie on Crave All Right, anyway, I love you all, both living and dad.

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