Hi, it's Jay here, the host of the podcast Our Little Leading I just wanted to say thanks for your support of Eden's case and the heartbreaking story of Eden Westbrook and the ten year journey for her parents, Jason and Amanda Westbrook and their family.

We've always believed that there is much more to Eden's death, and we've spent the last three years looking into all of it.

Of particular interest was the police officer Paul Reynolds, who was working at the Coroner's office at the time of Eden's death and was helping compile the inquest notes for Eden.

In twenty seventeen, police Professional Standards raided Reynolds's home and found child abuse material on his phone and devices.

The next day, he killed himself and that's where our new podcast, Badger Betrayal begins.

It's an investigation into Reynolds and everything revolving around his forty year career as a Tasmanian police officer.

In this podcast, we have whistleblowers that have come forward, a current serving police officer who breaks ranks, a great risk to himself.

We've got emails and behind closed door conversations.

What we know is that there are breadcrumbs everywhere and the place it leads we feel is worrying.

If you're a new listener or a listener that's been with us for the whole journey of Eden's story, I just want to say you've been so supportive of Eden's case, and we're asking for you to help on this new investigation.

The way to do that is to search the podcast Badge of Betrayal on your favorite podcast app, follow the show, and if you like it, give it a review and tell your friends.

Our wish, just like our Little Edie's podcast, is that this new show brings about more chain with those that are supposed to protect us.

Thanks for listening, and thank you again for your support.

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On the eleventh of August twenty twenty five, Eden Westbrook would be twenty six years old.

Would she have kids of her own, may be married?

Would she have moved out of Saint Helen's.

Would she have fond memories of her childhood growing up in that sleepy town on Tasmania's coast.

All these questions will never be answered because of the tragedy that happened, The tragedy that Jason and Amanda Westbrook are still trying to find a resolution to It might never be a definitive answer, but it might allow them to finally lay Eden to rest.

Because I get you up around these times.

At different times, I might wake up and I'm sobbing, and I think I must have been dreaming about her and didn't.

Want to leave.

This year, like always, Jason and Amanda and their large family will gather again to commemorate Egga's life.

Eleventh of August mate and we're all getting together as a family up at Bobby Lee's again.

Yeah.

We always seem to gather around her birthday, and.

It's not to cry and sobs, to be together and remember and laugh about the funny things that she did do because she had a really quirky sense of humor.

Anyone that had ever encountered her would know that she was adorable, friendly, kind.

She love food, So we make sure we have a really nice meal on a birthday together as a family.

Joke, we don't really sing Happy Birthday.

We did at the beginning, but as I said, that was awkward, so we don't do that.

We just come together and you know.

Just cuddle really yeah, yeah, and it's good.

Eden was a bloody good cook herself, Actually she was doing cook him just before she passed, and I remember she brought some things from the cooking classes and I said, you've got to cook me that, sweetie.

You know, she was involved in the kitchen, so she was always tasting something and whether it be a roast or a stir fry, or a pasta or.

A bacon Cabanarah.

Yes, she always came in.

I'd always foot she loved yeah, and I'd call out to them and.

See he's said, I could.

I don't never want to die.

I love food way too much.

I'll never She's sitting at the end of the bed saying that to me one day, a couple of weeks before she died.

I love food.

I never want to die because I love food way too much.

I never thought I'd be so interested in political outcomes of a state election in Tasmania, but the last few months have really been all about politics.

Just before all of the political unrest in Tasmania, Chasing and Amanda are about to have a new bill passed which would have allowed the families to cease loved ones to obtain complete files, including autopsy photos and reports from the Tasmanian Corner's Court it's something that Jason and Amanda have been waiting for for a long time.

Yeah, we're not too bad.

We sort of just bouncing off each other.

There's not much been getting done obviously politically, because everyone's been asleep.

I'm well, sorry, not asleep.

Another election and so on and so forth, and I don't think they've even been able to form government.

But I don't know if you remember when they did present the bill for the cron has actively changed.

There was no fight back from any other oppositions, and liberal all agreed that this was a good idea, and you know, there were some really good questions asked.

Yes, it was all ago, as you know.

So given the delay, JA, I really do think they should call Eden's law.

Now it's been dragged out for so bloody long, I've had time to consider it, and I think Eden deserves that given the delayed, procrastination and theft they've done to us, they should give us that back.

I reckon, I've never been as interested in the Tasmanian election as the one that's just happened.

I guess let's start with the first one, which was the federal election in May Jackie Lamby.

We were hoping would hold her seat, and she did that by the skin of her teeth, but still did it.

I guess you were pleased about.

That absolutely, And you know I would have been wanting to just shake the Tasmanians to say why, why, why did you make it so close?

Because she has done so much for Tasmania and continues to do so.

Yeah, I was just I believed in her all the way, and I did believe in the Tasmanian people that she would get over the line because she is very, very Tasmanian and loves Tasmania with all of her body and soul, so and people.

So yeah, I thought, Hugh, thank goodness for that, just for the sake of Tasmania, not even for us, because honestly, what Jackie had done before the election for us, it was so much.

We thought, you know, how much more can somebody do as an individual?

But yeah, she's still there today.

It was quite daunting waiting for the actual count.

However, let's be mindful.

Jackie is a soldier, that was a soldier, and she's physically tough.

She's an expert in close combat.

He's a leader, She's mentally prepared for everything and anything.

She shows an initiative, courage and teamwork, so mate, I backed.

It all the way.

Then obviously the bill was table in Parliament.

We obviously covered that in the podcast.

And then the vote of no confidence in mister Rockliffe's government then took Tasmania into a state election and that's been neck and neck since then.

Right, Tazzy people, where Ireland state, we go by Ireland time.

We don't really like to have changes into bigger capacities.

So that is in the favor of the Liberal Party.

And you know, when I talk about being a political nerd, it's really about the good fight.

Whoever's fighting the good fight for me, that's who it's been.

And way back in the beginning, when Eden first passed away, it was Lisa's thing and she was labor and she did everything and more than what I expected for her to do, and she was the only one to really do so at that time.

So she got in and we were invited to the political part after party, and the whole family went and it was quite an event and it was really great to see the inside of that.

And yeah, I just anyone doing the good fight, and Jackie's done that for us, and so has Guy.

So Jeremy Rocliffe remains the premiere of Tasmania, but his Liberal government doesn't have the majority and they're operating as a minority government.

Do you think that changes anything for the bill that we need to go through.

Look, Guy has again assured us it will go through, and like I said, the Greens, Labor, Liberal Independence, we all agreed that this was not a bad bill and it's.

Important and where needs changing.

Everybody agreed, so that I don't see that either doesn't matter who leads this state at this point, this bill will go ahead regardless because of the absolute necessity in it needing to be done, not just for Jason and I alone.

As Eden's dad, I respect what Guy's done.

I know he's been in positions and meetings that he's been made uncomfortable.

I reminded her that he's the biggest lawyer in our state, I said, and when he enters a room and to discuss a discussion of this caliber, he should give the utmost respect.

And I know he hasn't, and I know it's been hard for him.

So I let him know that whatever the outcome, the Westbrooks appreciate and respect what done for our daughter.

As Amanda said, we feel if they don't get in, we feel whoever will, whoever does, will continue the fight to get this bill amended and pass through legislation.

So we feel we have support from all of Tasmanian's and that's where I'm standing at the moment.

Jake.

It has gone a little quiet, but again, there's nothing to deliver here if we don't have the autopsy photos for these people to do.

Really, all the work has been done by our team to date and we just hand the paperwork over and there's a certain point where they come into this and it's not yet.

So once we've got the autopsy, full report photos, the whole kittenkerboodle of what we've requested and been approved for, however yet received in full, then therefore we go from there and that's when these people come in.

In my three years of knowing Jason and Amanda been nothing but proud parents of all of their children, and especially when it comes to talking about their children that serve in the Australian Defense Force.

As you know, we've just went over to Adelaide to witness Hunter graduating as an airborne analyst and the poseidons in the Air Force and it was one of the most memorable ceremonies I've.

Ever been to.

And to think my daughter was at the receiving end of it was really a moment to remember Jay because not only is she one of those that have passed the fifteen month course, which is a very tough course, she won most Improved a separate award and it was Upper Sidon And get this, the trophy was a Poseidon And after the first ceremony of the day, they took us in the Poseidon and I'm want to ask questions, Jay, as you know.

So I'm in the Poseidon and I'm going to take showing through it by Hunter and Jack Hunter's partner, and he's really up to speed with all electronics and the planes because he works on them.

So I'm asking questions and my questions are the weapons on it?

And Hunter let me know that this isn't something they discuss, Jay confidential.

They travel alone, so they're prepared.

And you can look on Wikipedia, she said, and she's the eyes in the sky in some of the areas that I couldn't have even imagine flying.

Jaysay, super proud moment, super proud day, and the Chief of the Air force.

He said to us.

Parents and the partners and whoever was there for the person that was passed.

It was graduating that this is the cream of the crop.

You're looking at the elite.

These people have just put their name in maritime history.

And when you hear that about your child, j I don't care who you are, or your partner, or your sister or your brother, be proud because these people work hard and they help Australia be Australia.

Mate.

So just for those that don't know what an RAF poseidon is, it's a maritime Patrol Intelligence Surveillance, anti submarine warfare plane, right.

Yeah, mate, and she does electronic warfare in it, sitting at a desk of six seats with another five officers and they there's some there that do the submarine.

There's others that do electronic and there's some they also do our rescue as well.

You wouldn't do Jason anything top secret.

Jay, you just would not tell him.

Look at just quickly going back to the poseidon to get anyone.

You know, these are a pimped up seven three seven mate.

You know when you're in it.

I said to Hunter, I says, can I sit in the pilot seat.

She said, I don't know, dad, and I says, and Jack says, I'll ask.

So there was a couple of high command in the plane and they says it right, it's Jason's if I'm a Hunter's dad sits in the pilot seat and.

They says, I'll be quick.

So, you know, me made legs and all I'm climbing in this seat and I'm sitting in there and I'm just looking all these buttons and I look in the middle and there's a kill switch button on the Holy heck, what's that?

And then Hunter explained that button, and I'm just blown away with her responses.

And then I says, Amanda, amna come and sit beside me, sit as a K pilot.

You're never going to get to do this again in your life.

So Amanda sits in the K pilot seat of a Poseidon you know, astray as what you just said they are, And I'm just like, you know, this big smile on my face, and hunts, they're right, our dad, get out.

You know.

So I got out and I'm walking down the steps.

And I says, Jack, how's that, mate, I've got to sit in there as a pilot the captain's seed.

Is it You weren't sitting in the captain's seat.

I said, what do you mean?

Is it?

Amanda was sitting in the captain's seed.

So I sat in the co pilot's seat, mate, and yeah, it was just a really good day mate.

So what is next for Jason and Amanda and the family.

Well, it all hinges on those autopsy reports that if they're allowed, they will pass on to their independent expert, Dr Byron Collins.

At first, this bill needs to pass.

Well, the first thing we do is let it happen.

It's going to take even once the new government is in place, there's still going to be possibly a couple of months before it's fully in operation.

Once we have that authority and approval, the coroner has no choice.

The Chief Magistrate, their hands are tied.

They've got to allow doctor Byron Collins to go a look at these photos of Eden's autopsy.

Now, once we've received that, and if it comes back to the second injury being and certain things noted that he can identify from those photos, then we may.

Be able to have the evidence.

To apply through the Chief Magistrate again, which will enable us to have Eden's an inquest into the death of Eden Westbrook, which is ultimately what we're trying to get, and then we can get the date of the death right, and we can get a few of those people accountable for where they may have gone wrong on the daymat We.

Didn't intend to uncover all of these things that we've uncovered.

That honestly wasn't our intention.

It was all just events that followed an event that followed an event that followed an event that followed curiosity that followed questions that followed more events.

And this was so not what we expected it was going to look like.

But at the same time we were ready for anything.

Jason and I have said.

To see where we're sitting, and the story hasn't been stopped yet because there's no.

Answers still it's we're just blown away.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

It's just it wasn't intentional like this.

It was just the way it's happened.

And yeah, it's still got a little.

Bit to go.

And I can also say that over the last couple of years, and even as late as you know this week, we have emails coming in to that email we set up what happened to Eden at gmail dot com from people who are either offering help or offering theories.

And you know, I've had, you know, some that are a little off the wall and then some that are interesting to explore.

But what I do know is that people do listen to this show and they do want to help.

And like everyone that's invested in this show, and it's not their life like it is yours, we all want to find a resolution.

Thanks Joe.

That's a really appreciated by you and by those that are listening and caring, because we do get that out in public.

It's not every day, but there's often we're out and someone just wants to give us a hug and say we've downloaded the podcast and we've heard your story and we respect and admire you.

You know, not everyone does respect and admirers on the flip side of that either, Jay, but those that do, they do we really appreciate.

We let every single one of those people that approach us know we thank them very much for listening to the podcast and hearing our story.

Yeah, we appreciate their support.

Make one hundred percent.

And you know, it's about justice as well.

People want to be able to walk around freely and be without having to be fearful of authorities or systems not working correctly.

I mean, this is beyond today because.

They want justice and that's all Jason and I have ever been at the bottom line fighting for We won't get our baby back.

And you know, we've copped a lot of flat and our children, our children have picked themselves up and dust themselves off.

Doesn't mean that they're not coming in for a hug and they're not sobbing at times, and we're not having a hell hold them or you know, make them a nice warm meal, or go and see them, or just give them some time out with us.

And you speak of people writing in and giving support of the podcast.

We go to our local IgA amanas in the Big IgA here just in town the other day and a young blake said, hello, Missus Westbrook.

I'm calling a missus Westbrook even you know, he's about twenty.

He said, I've downloaded the podcast and I've listened every episode and my heart goes.

Out, you know, and he's just a kid.

We were in BCF up in Lonnie the other day and at the door, this woman's just run up and hugged Amander and I sort of just stepped back and she just let a man know that she and she pointed to a car and set up.

My car's over there.

I've got the truth for reading on it, and I'll be you know.

And so yeah, it's random, but it's everywhere.

And yeah, you've made a.

Huge impact with this podcast, and there's more people than we could ever imagine know the story.

As I told you at the start, I'm going to be honest and truthful and I'm not going to be ashamed.

And we've done that.

As raw as it is and as fat as it may be to hear, it's the truth.

It's what happened.

We want the facts for our little daughter to be put away in the sense of that.

As you know, I keep repeating myself the day to death right and the truth written, mate, because that's important in history to have truth written and justice.

As Amanda was saying earlier.

And I'd like to spread our ashes.

I still have her ashes and I'd like them to be spread.

And I can't.

I don't feel like I can do that in full until we get to the bottom of this.

Hi, it's Jay here, the host of the podcast Our Little Leading I just wanted to say thanks, for your support of Eden's case and the heartbreaking story of Eden Westbrook and the ten year journey for her parents, Jason and Amanda Westbrook and their family.

We've always believed that there is much more to Eden's death and we've spent the last three years looking into all of it.

Of particular interest was the police officer Paul Reynolds, who was working at the Coroner's office at the time of Eden's death and was helping compile the inquest notes for Eden.

In twenty seventeen, police professional Standards raided reynolds home and found child abuse material on his phone and devices.

The next day he killed himself and that's where our new podcast, Badger Betrayal begins.

It's an investigation into Reynolds and everything revolving around his forty year career as a Tasmanian police officer.

In this podcast, we have whistleblowers that have come forward, a current serving police officer who breaks ranks, a great risk to himself.

We've got emails and behind closed door conversations.

What we know is that there are breadcrumbs everywhere and the place leads we feel is worrying.

If you're a new listener or a listener that's been with us for the whole journey of Eden's story, I just want to say you've been so supportive of Eden's case, and we're asking for you to help on this new investigation.

The way to do that is to search the podcast Badge of Betrayal on your favorite podcast app, follow the show, and if you like it, give it a review and tell your friends.

Our wish, just like our Little Edie's podcast, is that this new show brings about more change with those that are supposed to protect us.

Thanks for listening, and thank you again for your support.

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