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Escaping Yourself: Trauma's Role in Adult ADHD

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you have trauma and I went through the list of all the trauma that this person had.

[SPEAKER_00]: One by one, this is trauma, this is trauma, this is trauma, this is response is trauma, this is a trauma response and I literally probably listed 20 things of her childhood background trauma and then her response and I think and I said, you have trauma, [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Secret Life Podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Today we are talking about DUN-DUN-DUN.

[SPEAKER_00]: Adult ADD.

[SPEAKER_00]: And trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they did a big link in general to ADD and trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to do this episode because a close person to me reached out and sent me something about ADD and trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they have a dull ADD.

[SPEAKER_00]: They were diagnosed with it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they're on medication.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this person is like, there's no way it's linked to trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: You have trauma because I've had AD HD since I was four [SPEAKER_00]: I think I was diagnosed at like six, um, and I was on medication, but I got off.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the point is, when they send me this text, I literally was like, no, you have trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I went through the list of all the trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: that this person had.

[SPEAKER_00]: One by one, this is trauma, this is trauma, this is trauma, this is trauma, this response is trauma, this is a trauma response and I literally probably listed 20 things of her childhood background trauma and then her response.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, and I said, you have trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: Your ADD is linked to trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is an eye having ADHD and doing the work on myself.

[SPEAKER_00]: I see, I'm not on medication now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a problem focusing.

[SPEAKER_00]: I still have dyslexia and a learning disability, but my the ADHD part of my brain.

[SPEAKER_00]: is pretty much healed.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get hyper anymore.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can focus.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can have a conversation.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can follow a conversation.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really good at time management.

[SPEAKER_00]: Those things are really difficult when I was younger.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you can heal ADHD.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can heal ADD.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can heal this because it's a trauma response.

[SPEAKER_00]: The brain [SPEAKER_00]: literally creates these scenarios.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I, I'm like, I have to do it this episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's driving me bonkers and the thing is people automatically just want medication and it's like you can get on a med to focus more.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the problem is you haven't worked on unresolved trauma and those medications which listen.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was on Riddlein, long time in my life, made me a zombie, didn't like it.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to be on that medication, I usually think then you don't need it.

[SPEAKER_00]: The people that don't want to be on the medication usually need it, because it turns them into a zombie, you become a zombie.

[SPEAKER_00]: You become like, and the people that want to take it is like, I'm so busy, I can get things done.

[SPEAKER_00]: It makes me focus.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's not the people that are actually needed.

[SPEAKER_00]: Those people, it's usually a trauma response, and they're turning to something to fix them.

[SPEAKER_00]: So they can focus.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is my opinion.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is here's my opinion.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is all the work that I've done on myself.

[SPEAKER_00]: My own ADHD, my own trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: and my education and helping other people.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you take it this with grain of salt and throw it away if you don't like it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm doing this for someone I care about because she's not getting it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I know her through and through.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm doing this episode for her.

[SPEAKER_00]: So enjoy it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So unresolved trauma has finally, finally scientifically they are saying is attached to ADHD.

[SPEAKER_00]: having trouble having a tension on something, fire flight, you're in fire flight.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you have trouble focusing, mimicking or having mimicking ADHD.

[SPEAKER_00]: So trauma and ADHD looks very similar and they cross over.

[SPEAKER_00]: They cross over.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go through the difference between just trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: just ADHD and the crossover that actually links them because they share symptoms and you get ADHD when your brain is trying to escape from unresolved trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if someone, you're especially an adult that just got diagnosed with adult ADHD, look at the trauma in your past and what you haven't looked at because something is going on where your brain is moving and can't be present.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's survival tactics of fight or flight, an emotional dysregulation, disassociation, physical symptoms, sometimes racing heartbeat, avoidance.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of avoidant tendencies because that's what happens when you have trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we are going to go through this step by step and this, like I said, is for the person I care about.

[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do trauma first.

[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go, [SPEAKER_00]: avoiding reminders of trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that is linked to ADHD.

[SPEAKER_00]: Usually when you have adult ADHD or ADD, you try to imagine you don't have trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, every adult, they think they said like 75 to 80% of all humans and adults have some kind of trauma in their life.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, numbness, negative thoughts about self.

[SPEAKER_00]: Vivian memories are flashbacks or nightmares.

[SPEAKER_00]: Moments of blackout, you can't remember your childhood.

[SPEAKER_00]: That happens a lot.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hyper-horousal irritation, quick to anger on edge, or feelings of guilt, shame, and hopelessness.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you disassociate or detach.

[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the main thing is like, you disassociate from yourself and you disassociate from others or surrounding what's happening.

[SPEAKER_00]: So ADHD, let's do that, forgetfulness, restlessness, hyperactivity, which I had all these.

[SPEAKER_00]: Challenging's following directions, frequently losing our misplacing things, challenging attention for a long period of time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Inpatient, difficulty taking turns, procrastinating, or avoiding difficult tasks, and talking excessively.

[SPEAKER_00]: Those are ADHDs, and here's where they cross.

[SPEAKER_00]: memory and concentration is difficult.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can't really remember stuff in the past or your memories of the past have usually a toxic positivity spin on it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Concentration is difficult.

[SPEAKER_00]: So even like one tedious task to get done cleaning your kitchen, you find yourself like, ah, you can't finish it.

[SPEAKER_00]: High in emotional reactions or no emotional reaction.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can either just be like, I don't have any feelings or you have all the fucking feelings.

[SPEAKER_00]: Impulsiveness, there's an impulsiveness, always have to be doing something, cannot sit in itself, or you are always reactive, having to do, having to be, having to go, having to produce those things.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, next, difficulty sleeping sometimes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Insomnia, challenging, regulating your emotions.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then having trouble following conversations, even sometimes, are listening, like you're thinking of other things, and you're not fully present in the present time.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, if any of these are happening to you, look at unresolved trauma, okay?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because this is not going to go away and what it then hits is low self esteem, alright?

[SPEAKER_00]: feeling deep, deep feelings of something wrong with you, mood regulation can be difficult.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if you have a sadness all of a sudden, if you're like it takes you out of your life.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so these things have to be looked at, they're not going to just magically go away with a pill and they are linked, they are shared.

[SPEAKER_00]: All these things with ADHD and trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: You are going to carry this on.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if you keep lying to yourself and going, oh, everybody else has trauma, but not me, but all of a sudden I got this huge diagnosis of adult ADHD.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I need to be put on vayvans, or riddle in or all the millions of pills they have now for people with a tension deficit disorder.

[SPEAKER_00]: and it just pops up.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's not normal.

[SPEAKER_00]: Something is telling your brain that you're trying to run from self because that is what this is and positivity for mindfulness, disassociation.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be able to stay with one task.

[SPEAKER_00]: filling your calendar.

[SPEAKER_00]: All these things are making you escape yourself.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when you try to escape yourself, that's usually escaping the unresolved trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: So this is what I need you to look at.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to magically go away with a pill.

[SPEAKER_00]: The pill is just putting a blanket on top, so you don't feel and you think you're now hyper-focused when really you're just on a speed like drug.

[SPEAKER_00]: and I'm not saying everybody shouldn't be on medication.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, I was on medication.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got off of it before high school.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am just saying someone that had the worst ADHD and dyslexia, so I have a learning disability too.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I still switch numbers.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not saying that this isn't happening and people don't need to be on medication.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if it pops up out of nowhere, [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably unresolved trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're linking it now, scientifically.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is a new study.

[SPEAKER_00]: This has now been happening.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've always seen because it has been trauma-based and your child, if your child has ADHD and having trouble focusing, something might be going on in their lives.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're not paying attention to them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're on the phone a lot and they feel abandoned internally.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're neglecting them somehow.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're overcompensating when you shouldn't.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you should allow their brain to be bored.

[SPEAKER_00]: So they're overstimulated.

[SPEAKER_00]: That is trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: All those things are trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: When a parent doesn't show up for you, when a parent can financially hold a job that is trauma, if a parent is on their phone all the time, that is kid that trauma for kids.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, if your kid has trauma, look at what you're causing in the household.

[SPEAKER_00]: Even if they're not abused, even if it's not a big trauma with the tea, we need a huge car accident abuse, sexual abuse, now having a house or food or those things, those are big trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is other trauma, neglect being on your phone, you're now lacking your child, looking at your phone.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're neglecting your child, not spending quality time with him and playing with him, neglecting child, taking them out and putting them on an iPad and neglecting them of the child.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is your simulating their brain away from you and disconnecting from you.

[SPEAKER_00]: That is trauma for children.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if your child struggles with ADHD, look at what you're doing to create trauma in their lives.

[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the word trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can literally look at up and go, what is trauma?

[SPEAKER_00]: What is trauma?

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, here we go.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: Lasting emotional and psychological response to a deepening distress and disturbing events, meaning assault, natural disaster, accidents, small trauma, not showing up, parents, not showing up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanna make this bear so we can all read it.

[SPEAKER_00]: neglect, inconsistent parenting, bullying, rejection, parenting, parental divorce, loss of a pet, parent adulthood, infidelity, breakup, job stress, financial worry, social humiliation, the old troubles, major life changes, moving new jobs, having another child, all those are small trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: Small trauma for a child is big trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: Does this make sense?

[SPEAKER_00]: So, I just need you to dig deep and go, do I need a pill?

[SPEAKER_00]: Or do I actually need to look at my past and finally face it and stop putting in a positive spin or even going, I don't remember it if you don't remember your childhood, you probably.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you put a positive spin on your childhood and your sibling doesn't have the same experience, which I know every kid has different experiences, but the basis of the family is the basis of the family dysfunctional system.

[SPEAKER_00]: You might have trauma you're not looking at.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hope this episode helps the person I care about and I hope this episode helps you if you are struggling with ADHD and trauma or you have a diet ADHD diagnosis and think of pills going to magically fix you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Please.

[SPEAKER_00]: Go, do some work, find a therapist, find a specialist, find someone that is educated, because so many of them aren't about what trauma is, because you need to find somebody new to help you to tell you that they're a trauma, and you need to work through it.

[SPEAKER_00]: and stop escaping yourself, stop thinking it's ADHD and if I take this pill everything will be fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: It won't be.

[SPEAKER_00]: Take it from someone that was on a riddle and for years and years and years and they still had the issues until they actually started working through their trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then outgrow it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if you get adult ADHD, that's unresolved trauma.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for listening.

[SPEAKER_00]: Again, find your own source of information if this doesn't work for you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Go find it therapists, especially if it's a coach.

[SPEAKER_00]: Someone to help you walk through this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you have to actually work with someone.

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