Episode Transcript
Take two, Take two, our first guest on the fucking show a fly.
I then we kept these note cards for something.
It's circling every time I try, it's trying to I might have to handle this.
I'm having heart It's like cardio when you're not even doing cardio.
Speaker 2Six days of croissants, bread, money, coffee and walking twenty five thousand steps.
Today my body is.
Speaker 1Like, bitch, what, how's it going?
Welcome back?
Speaker 2Thank you?
How is Paris still in my Paris wardrobe?
Speaker 1I know I just need a breadstick.
I feel right right there.
Speaker 2I cannot eat any more bread, croistalant or coffee.
I'm having heart palpitation.
Speaker 1What's your favorite thing that you ate while you were there?
Like the most delicious thing?
Speaker 2Interesting.
The last time I went to Paris, I felt like the food was amazing.
It was like back in twenty eight I was with Kayley and Bobby.
Bobby picked some of the restaurants.
We were only there for two days.
Kaylee and I stumbled into what can only be assumed was like the eighth Like they have different districts.
Like looking back at it now, I'm like, oh, I think we might have been in the eighth in to like a little bakery and we had like the most amazing Eclaire.
Speaker 1Hmmm, are you Claire?
Is things filled with chocolate.
Speaker 2No, they're like the doughnut that has like the chocolate on top that's filled with custard.
Okay, the thing was like the size of my head.
But that was back in twenty eighteen, and so I was really excited for the food this time.
Also, the hotel I stayed at last time in twenty eighteen, they had this like chicken and vegetable soup we went in the winter that was so good with the bread and the butter.
I ordered it every chance I could.
I was like, I need more of this soup.
Anyways, this time, I mean, we tried a lot of places and I was not super impressed with any of my food, which was unfortunate.
Speaker 1I'm a foodie, but I would never like if someone's like top five favorite cuisines.
French cuisine is something which I've only ever.
I've never been to Europe, so I've only experienced it at restaurants in the States, but it's never like, Oh, a French restaurant, That's where I want to go.
So I don't know, compared to Italy.
You were in Italy.
Speaker 2I mean the food in Italy was delicious, but I got bored with it.
I was like, I can only eat so much pizza and pasta.
Like here's the thing.
Nobody eats vegetables.
Yeah, and I really like vegetables.
I want a good salad, like everybody had a Caesar salad.
But even like they don't put a lot of dressing on it, and there's nothing really interesting about it.
And then the green beans were like the only other vegetable I could really find, so.
Speaker 1Covert air covert vert or some skinny green beans?
Speaker 2Is that what they're called air co I don't know.
We should not try to speak another.
Speaker 1We should stay with Spanish.
Speaker 2So anyways, but it was fun we did that.
My favorite thing that we did was the Emily in Paris Walking Food Tour.
And even though it was like okay, the food was, it was like, oh, try this uh pawn a chocolate lot, which is like a chocolate croissant and like this little piece of chocolate and like this cheese with a sip of wine.
That's all that was fun.
It was so cool to be in like where they're shooting Emily in Paris and to really see it.
So that was we We had the best time.
Speaker 1That's so great.
Speaker 2Yeah, how have you been what'd you do while I was gone?
Speaker 1I've been good since well, while you were gone, I've just been like business as usual.
I think, honestly, everything's a blur.
Since we recorded last, Nelle's family came into town.
I went to Universal for the first time.
Speaker 2Did you like it?
Speaker 1I did enjoy it a lot.
I was gonna say I loved it, But it's not just not like totally my thing, Like we live, you know, we live like five minutes from there.
Speaker 2It's it's not like Universal thought.
Speaker 1Yeah, we thought about about getting a member, like a season pass there because it's close.
But I was like, this is cool, but I don't think this is season past cool.
I would get season passes to like a six Flags if we'd go.
Speaker 2I think it's closing more often for good here.
Speaker 1Yeah, I've never been to the one here.
Speaker 2I wouldn't go now.
Speaker 1They're like all the all the yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, Issua, it's closing flags.
Speaker 1I think, so, well, that's upsetting.
I'll check it out.
Perfect, It's perfect, except the roller coaster business these days, Why get on a roller coaster when you're living on one of the world anyway.
But it was really good.
And then we went on a cruise and I to ate all of the things.
It's actually the first time since I've not been since I started eating a products again that I've like willingly eaten dairy.
Like I wasn't having milk and cereal or anything like that, but I would.
I did put some real butter on the bread, and I was like, because I was like, you know, this isn't less healthy and see what happens.
And honestly, I was fine, but I don't know.
The thing.
The good thing about not eating butter is it helps you not eat as much bread.
But when you eat that butter.
Speaker 2Let me tell you, the butter in France might be the best thing.
Wow, that shit is so good.
Dom and I were literally like at one point, Dom, I was like, did you just eat that with a fork?
Speaker 1That's funny.
Speaker 2Dom's like, if you were in here, I eat the whole thing with my fork.
Speaker 1Oh my god, I was like, put it down.
I mean, it really does change things.
I remember growing up and the Midwest, you know, where I lived, we only really had chain restaurants, and those are the ones we went to.
I know, Charlie's had like this honey butter on the rolls and I was like, I'm gonna need another basket.
Speaker 2It's like when the suce is real good, those chips are like, exactly, the chip is the delivery.
Speaker 1Method, right, I don't make the rules.
Speaker 2Yeah, the delivery method of the butter exactly.
I can't eat butter by the stick.
Speaker 1My grandpa before she passed.
My grandma is literally my soulmate.
She was spreading but so much butter on this bread and She's like, the bread's just you know where you hold the butter.
The butter really what I'm eating.
I was like, okay, Granny, get it.
So anyways, we had a really nice time and it's been good for me to stop and take account of like, really, how even though I have challenges, we all have challenges.
Just how fun I have in my life.
And I think that's really important.
And I've had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2I love that I was actually really trying to do the same thing, like despite still sort of being in this process of change relationship boyfriend's stuff, Like was really trying to be present with dom and appreciate that we were there in Paris and like, how how amazing it was.
The weather was beautiful, it was not too hot.
We walked everywhere, we saw all of Paris.
We did not miss anything, and it was so fun.
It really was just like a good bonding time.
Speaker 1That's awesome.
Speaker 2By the way, guys, this episode it's not about food, nor is it about parks or Paris.
Speaker 1Yeah, at least not the main part of it.
But so we had to catch up.
Speaker 2I haven't seen him and I haven't seen you in over a week.
Speaker 1So it was like, Okay, did you have any alcohol in Paris?
Speaker 2I did have like a few SIPs of a glass of wine one night, even though I'm not really supposed to be drinking because of the stem cells.
But I was like, you can't be in Paris and not try any wine, like any French wine, Like come on, So I just like I ordered a glass.
I just wanted to taste it with the meal, Like I said, I think I had maybe like three SIPs of it.
Well good, it was delicious.
Speaker 1I'm like the olden days girl, which this is more of what we're talking about.
I'll tell you the drinks and the how.
Speaker 2I love that we called it the Olden days.
Speaker 1Well for me.
They feel like the old I know, I feel the version of me that could drink like when I was in my twenties or early thirties feels like a lifetime ago.
Oh yeah, I can't imagine the shit I used to do.
Speaker 2The rubbing alcohol that we basically drank in my college years.
I'm like, not on your life.
Speaker 1And then just bounce up like a spring shops sugar like the Oh.
Speaker 2Okay, when I was in college, we used to go to this place called Have a Nice Day Cafe.
It was a giant warehouse.
It was like seventies theme.
They had these you know, like the fish bowl that you put a goldfish in the plastic.
Okay, they served you alcohol net.
I think they just poured all the liquors they had in there.
They would have these giant straws.
It would change colors when you drink out of them, and you would have like seven straws in there.
There would be like multiple of your friends drinking out of it.
They had the shot girls walking around with like the lemon drops and the kamakazis and like, I mean, that is hang Over city.
We danced so hard that I think we sweated it out a.
Speaker 1Lot well, I mean there have been a few times that I've been leaving the club when I was younger, and I would see, like, you know, people puking in the parking lot, and I'm like, nothing that comes out of you should be that color, like like like bright blue, like the color of the book that you release.
Like what what were you drinking?
And why is it still that color?
We should not we should not be having that shit, but we did it.
Speaker 2But we redheaded sluts always loved them body shots.
I mean it was fun.
Speaker 1It was really fun.
I remember so the I never drank before I was twenty one, so my my experience was I really was up till then, and everyone always said, O'donnald's not going to be a drinker because my friend, because I had plenty of opportunity to drink, and I chose not to even when like I wouldn't have gotten in trouble or anything like that.
But I was just waiting.
And then when I turned twenty one, I remember the first like after maybe two drinks.
I remember the first time feeling the effects of alcohol and I was like, wow, this is weird.
And I remember I was just sitting there turning my head to the left and turning my head to the right because I thought it was so wild.
I'd never experienced before that where it's like it took the room a minute to catch up.
Yeah.
I was just like, oh my gosh, this is wild.
And I didn't get really was like that was the weekend of drinking because it was my twenty first birthday.
But that was after midnight when I turned twenty one.
Yeah, so and just one friend.
It wasn't like my party.
It was my friend Resa, and we went to the club and I was like, this is crazy.
The next day was when I really did the deed.
Drank more than I needed to, But that was the first time I was like, okay.
But even thinking of that now it makes me feel like a little nauseous because I just my tolerance has gone way down.
Speaker 2When was your first The first time ever drank was high school?
I actually believe it or not.
I was.
I was really good, like I I think I only drank two times in high school.
The first time was my junior year.
It was New Year's Eve.
It was at my house.
My mom and steppeddat and little brother and sister had gone down the street for a New Year's eve party.
I was allowed to have a couple friends over, so there was like six of us and my parents had had a like a party that summer, and there was a bunch of alcohol left over, like a bunch of beer, huge amount of beer left over, and like a cooler in the front or in the garage.
So we were drinking those.
Mind you, we might have each had two, so we might have gone through twelve, Like there was no way they were going to notice that twelve beers were gone.
But I remember the same thing.
I remember going into like the little bathroom that was off the kitchen and like looking in the mirror, and I was like, am I drunk?
Is this what drunk is?
But like I don't think, but maybe I am, because I did have Like looking back, I'm like, no, you had a buzz go for sure.
And we had a great time and our dumb asses we didn't want to get caught.
And it was like what do you do with the beer cans?
And our house had this like wrap around patio on the back and then the woods were like behind us, not far, so we were throwing empty cans into the woods.
So we thought an empty beer handlesn't over you're like, what, by the way, I'm picturing right now trying to throw an empty beer can as far as I can.
Speaker 1It's like five.
Speaker 2Yeah, So basically it's just in the backfucking yard.
Okay, but it's New Year's Eve and so great.
Everybody like they go home, Mom comes home, No big deal, nobody knows anything.
I've already gone to bed.
The next day, I come down and I'm walking past the living room where the Christmas tree is still up.
But New Year's Day, my mom takes a Christmas tree down, and I see that there's a beer can outside on the patio.
The Christmas tree is kind of hiding it inside because of where it is, but I saw it, and I was like, oh my god, how am I going to go out on the patio and get this beer can?
Because there's like snow, like this is Saint Louis, Like, there's no like good reason to go out on the patio right now.
I was like calling my friends and they're like, you got to get out there and get it.
Long and short of it is I did not get out there get it.
My mom starts taking the Christmas tree down, is like, why is there a beer can on the patio because obviously nobody had been out there in months.
They realized it was half drank.
They look over the balcony, see that there's ones in the back.
My stepdad was smart enough to pull a number on me and basically told me that they looked at the beer cans that were down in the yard and looked at the cereal number on them and matched them to the ones that were in the gruage.
That is not true, by the way.
There was no way to do it.
They ended up laughing at me later, but that's how they got me to admit that we drank.
I got grounded for a month.
I didn't have my driver's license yet, or I might have, but I didn't drive to school.
I think I had my driver's license, but I didn't drive to school.
I worked with one of my friends who lived down the street.
No, my parents made me take the bus in the dead middle of winter for a month.
So I'm a junior.
All my friends are still driving to school.
I'm having to get up an hour earlier, wait on the cour corner for the bus while they all drive by, and then I have to get off the bus in front of everybody.
Speaker 1See that's messed up that shit.
That's not right.
You should not They went too hard.
But I think should have happened in this story is your stepdad should have been played cool, gotten the beer cans and pulled you aside and said I know what you did and you shouldn't have got in trouble.
That's how I would like you to go in the movie.
I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 2Well, my mom already knew she was the one that found it out on the patio, so they were in it together.
But yeah, they it's.
Speaker 1A lot worse that could have happened.
Speaker 2One time.
But yes, it was hilarious that we thought.
So it's all fun and games until you've had one too many and you think you're throwing them into the woods.
Speaker 1Yeah, everything's perfect until I had one too well, so I would I remembered my mom when I was in my twenties and I was I drank a lot, but I was social and I also was homeschooled pretty much my entire life, and so I loved in my twenties.
I felt like I was living more of a social experience because I was in working places and meeting friends and just so I was out a lot.
It's not like I was like, oh, I need to go have a drink.
But also that's just when you want to do something, you want your friends get drinks in your twenties.
And so anyways, my mom told me that her grandmother, so my great grandmother told her Genie, Honey, I've never seen a pretty drunk, so bitch, I'd get drunk, and when I read go in the bathroom, i'd stop.
And when I tell you, my duck lips like like, try to be the prettiest drunk I could.
Like if great granny could see me now she pretty drunk right in front of her, you know, if she.
Speaker 2Would see somebody pretty well.
Speaker 1Exactly like why is he doing that with his face?
Speaker 2So oh that's awesome.
Okay, question do you have like your funniest drunk story and do you have any bad drunk stories?
Speaker 1Totally?
I got lots of them.
I actually have to think of my funniest.
Well.
Okay, so one time, this is in my later twenties, I was I just started learning ballroom and teaching beginners and they the owner of the studio, invited us to this event that for me where I was at that time, felt like a very swinky event.
You had to be you had to buy a table to go.
And so the owner of my dance studio, her husband was like my city's number one plastic surgeon, and so he bought a table and invited us to go.
And it was black tie and all the thing, and so I was just having all the drinks because you know, you just let loose and you're like, oh my god, it's fancy, I'll have another.
And so it was fun dancing the night away, the whole thing.
But I had to So that was a Saturday night and I had to sing at this very large church the next morning.
It's in my hometown.
So I get home, brought home and I literally pass out on the love seat, not even the couch, so I'm curled up.
I can't even fit on the whole thing in my parents' living room, and they can't wake me up for church.
The next morning.
I literally wake up when I'm supposed to be out the door five minutes ago.
My brother saying, Mom, no matter what I do, I can't get all to wake up.
And I was like, what's I was saying.
I'm literally still buttoned up in my tucks that I was wearing the night before.
So I quickly change and I get to church and my job at church that day it actually wasn't seeing I was.
I was just so crazy.
I was supposed to like give give announcements but basically be like the Ryan Seacrest, like the service that Sunday.
And so first I came in there and I was like, I am so well.
Before I left, I was like, Mom, do I stink?
And she was like, tell everyone you're sick and you're on robitussin.
I was like, okay, so gonna lie to everyone at church and this shirt.
So they had some services the night before that I went to before the event and did this.
I was very professional and scripted, like hey guys, and make sure you check out the new coffee shop.
And we literally had like a coffee shop with weekly special like drinks like a you know how Starbucks will have there whatever.
And so I was just talking about all these things.
And so the next morning I go and I'm sitting there and one of the pastors who's speaking comes up and sits next to me, and I was like hi, and he said, oh, like I know.
I was like, I didn't mean to, but I drank too much last night.
Speaker 2You didn't lie.
Speaker 1I didn't lie.
I was like, I feel really badly about it, but it was a really fancy event and I didn't know what to do, so I just kept going.
He was like, it's okay.
You know, none of us are perfect.
And when I tell you, I would think I was still drunk in that service, like I'm not proud of this, but when I got up, I was laughing at myself.
I went up once and I had the coffee.
I was like, and the coffee at the coffee shop is so good and I need another, so if you want to bring me one, find me after service, like just seeing the craziest stuff.
Everyone was literally looking at me, and there were one thousand.
I had three services that morning, and there were a thousand people in each service.
I was just like totally.
People were coming up to me like wow, you're so comfortable up there, and I was like, girl, I'm I'm you just this is before this is that phase where you're not quite drunk but the hangover yea.
So it was really in hindsight, that was a pretty like that was the most bold getting up on stage in that condition at church.
Oh, I can't believe I did that.
And now, there would be no way in hell that I could.
I don't think I would have survived, Like, I don't think I think that would just be I'd be done.
I would definitely be bedridden for days, like two days after that.
Speaker 2For sure, not definitely, that's what you're calling it, Like, I'm sorry, it's just not happening.
Speaker 1But there was just so many things people.
People were like my friends who knew were dying laughing the entire time because it's like I had no control of what was coming out of my mouth.
So and the night before I had no control of Yeah, anyways, what about do you have like a funny one other than your chuck that cans really funny?
Speaker 2That was more tragic a little bit like, oh, you could.
Speaker 1Have gone harder.
If you were going to get grounded for a month, I should have earned my parents, like, if you're going to I'm.
Speaker 2Going to do a crime to match the punishment a month, I should have been a week for each can I have?
Okay, I I have three, but I'm until two of them really short.
And then remember when we started and I was like, oh my gosh, I have a story that combines.
Okay, that might that might actually be the funniest one.
But there was one time college went out drinking too much.
I had to go to dance class.
The next day was definitely still drunk and I had to go to jazz class and I rolled just looking like a fucking truck at me first of all, and my best friend is standing next to me, and her and I just were always cracking jokes.
We were always getting in trouble no matter what, like if they hated us, but we would dance our ass stuff.
But we're dancing and you know, you're breathing heavy and I'm turning so wind and she looks at me and she's like she like sniffs, and she's like, are you drunk?
I was like, can you tell?
She's like yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had no batlance, And I actually think at a certain point the teacher asked me to leave the class because her and I couldn't stop laughing about it.
There was just no and she knew that.
I was like, I'm sorry, and she was like, you go, like she wasn't he.
I don't even know if she was mad, she was more just annoyed.
I think that we were laughing.
That was one of them that I actually think was pretty funny.
There was another one I was gonna tell you, Oh, okay, well this one I don't know.
Again, I don't know if this is funny or tragic.
So after my divorce, I was dating a guy who was a little bit younger than me.
We've talked about him before, was really close with not just him, but like his group of friends, Like he had a couple really close guy friends.
He I told you he was always very honest like that he was dating multiple people.
He wasn't just dating me.
And it was coming up on my birthday.
I have such trauma around my birthday, I swear to God, and like right before my birthday, he like sort of cut things off.
I don't know if he was dating one other girl or multiple other girls, but anyways, I was pretty upset by it.
And so one of his best friends was like, no, this is bullshit.
We're going out for your birthday.
And so he gets the rest of the group of friends together.
They all go in, They rent a limo, we go to this club dres that was like super popular back in the day table service, And you know, I'm angry about it, first of all, that like he is not a part of it.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Then this fucker shows up with a girl.
Oh hell, doesn't come to our table, but posts up in front of us, and our table backs up to the stage, and you're allowed to dance on it, but I'm just throwing them back.
It's my birthday.
Everybody's buying drinks.
It's table service.
Da da da.
I get up on the stage.
My girlfriend said, I are dancing, but it's from a couch.
Like, so you step up from the couch onto the stage.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2We're dancing and we're having the best time.
And I step down onto the couch to come off the stage.
Lose my balance.
No Donald, it's.
Speaker 1Oh my god, just fall.
Speaker 2I take out the table, Oh my god, with drinks on it, with candles on it, all the things.
The bouncer comes over.
The bouncer's ready to throw us out.
They're like, pull it together.
Speaker 1See if that happened today, we'd have that on video because people would have been filming you on stage.
Speaker 2And so they're like, no, no, no, she just lost her balance stepping onto the couch.
So they managed to smooth it, smooth it over and convince the balancer that I wasn't super drunk.
And then it was Okay, I just you know, high heels, lost my balance.
But when I tell you, fucking candles went alvid is covered in different drinks like it.
Speaker 1Oh my god.
Yeah.
Speaker 2So that was the other one that I feel like was pretty.
Speaker 1I had a tragic one.
I went to like funny trash in hindsight.
By the way, if you're listening and if you've made it this far and you're sober, this is we're just talking about the past.
We're also now have a lot of fun.
It's not relying on tons of alcohol.
Speaker 2No.
I just want to say, that's why the title of the alcohols Everything's perfect into too many.
Speaker 1I one time was I was in New York and I was like not seeing Tadrick, but I still had like was emotionally, I mean we were I was seeing him physically, I was staying with him, but we weren't like together, and so anyways, my feelings were hurt or something.
You know.
I was young and dumb, and so I went to look at this apartment and this guy was like that was showing me his apartment because he wanted to sublease it.
At the time, I was like, I'm going to move to New York City.
He was like, we just weren't having a nice conversation.
He said, can I take you to dinner tonight?
So anyways, I was like sure.
So we went to dinner and then he was like talking about Washington, DC, and I said, I love Washington d C.
And he said, well, I'm going tomorrow if you want to go, and I said, don't tempt me with a good time.
Literally the next day I rode with him, this person that I just met the day before, to Washington d C.
Anyways, we went out and I got so drunk autumn that and you know, I'm trying to play it cool because this is a cute guy and whatever, and I felt so like I was going to puke, but I was too embarrassed to ask him to pull over.
And I had my jacket sitting on my lap and I literally just like your truck.
I think you can do things and conspicuously.
I was just like looking out the window and puked in my jacket.
Speaker 2How do you puke in a jacket.
It's not a pouch, it's not a.
Speaker 1Purse or have like, you know, parachuted it.
Speaker 2And you didn't think he was gonna fuck.
Speaker 1I don't want to think about this, you know, those things just put out of your mind.
He was like okay.
I was like, yeah, I'm fine letting it out.
Oh my god, because I am a good quiet puker, which is I don't know if that's a skill to be proud of, because like my dad or my brothers, they get sick growing up and stuff, and I'm like, oh my god, do you just need attention?
Like like I'm like, okay, but exactly.
And then the next day, looking at it, I was.
Speaker 2Like, oh, you didn't throw this thing out.
Speaker 1No.
I put it in a flastic bag because I didn't know where to throw it.
So I was like, I'm just like, nothing happened and I'll wash it later.
Was disgusting and also I was like what anyway?
So that was like a very tragic It's funny now to look back on, like how disgusting and this stupid, Like why didn't I just say can you pull over?
I'm gonna be sick.
Instead, I'm like, I know, I'm gonna puke in my jacket And it was like a little it was an all white track jacket.
Speaker 2I know, Oh my gosh, this gets better.
Speaker 1It was like from Zara or something, which to me mean from Ohio.
Zara was Catore.
It was a very because they only had those at the time, like Zara or h and m was only in like Chicago, La, New York.
It was before it was all over.
Oh, So I was like, I'm going to save this fine garment and I yeah, it was no good wow, yeah.
Speaker 2Okay, this is my this is my worst funny.
But also like whoa, okay, so my wedding it wasn't my wedding day.
It was two days before.
Everybody was in town because we got married in San Diego, that's where Kan's family's from, but all my family had to come in town.
My family can drink, and so we have this really nice dinner and I have like a glass of wine at dinner, and then the guys were going their way, the girls were going our way.
My cousin Jason, I remember, he was like, this is when Jason still drank.
He doesn't drink anymore.
But he was like, we were getting ready to leave and he's like, let's do a I don't know if it was a yager bomb where you drop it in the beer.
It wasn't sacky, I think, isn't okay?
First of all, I have no business doing a yeager bomb ever in life.
I don't even think I did the whole thing.
I did like what I could.
But that alone was like, Okay, we're mixing things.
I've already had wine.
Now we're mixing liquor and beer.
What do they say, beer before liquor?
Never been sickerler before beer?
You're in the clear.
First of all, it's bullshit.
Too much is too much?
Speaker 1Stick?
Speaker 2Still still snick, still drunk.
Okay, So we go out to this club and mind dude, I'm like, what was I twenty eight?
I think when I got married.
No, I'm sorry, twenty maybe twenty six.
I think I had done at twenty eight.
But nonetheless, I'm not nineteen or twenty or twenty one.
You shouldn't have been drinking in nineteen or twenty.
But it's my partying days had been over.
Like I had not been partying drinking on a regular basis.
Okay, we go to this club.
They're buying me drinks, they're handing me shots, we're dancing, and all the other times in the past I've danced my ass off and it's been fine.
Oh no, this club is packed, it's hot, and all of a sudden, it hits me and I am like, get me out here right now, give me out, Give me out, Give me out, Like I'm paying, I know I'm gonna throw up.
Speaker 1Oh.
Speaker 2They get me outside.
We have to get in a cab to go back to the hotel.
Oh no, They're like, don't you puke in this cab.
And I am sitting in this cab and I am just like, oh my god, but I know, like if I have to pew, I'm on a roll the window down.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2The cab driver is like, she better not throw up in here.
They're like, she won't.
They're like, you better pug in your purse if you have to.
Speaker 1Uh huh.
Okay.
Speaker 2We get back to the hotel.
I don't throw up.
I'm sharing a room with my two sisters, so Kaylee and then my younger sister.
Now, my younger sister is eleven years younger than me, so if I'm twenty six, she's like fifteen.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2So I'm in my bed there like there's two queen beds.
Kaye and my other sister in the other bed go to sleep, pass out.
I get up in the middle of the night to go pee.
I get out of bed, walk turn the corner to go into the bathroom and pee.
So I'm peeing and my little sister's like, what are you doing?
And I'm like, I'm going pee, give me a minute, and she you're not in the bathroom.
Speaker 1Oh my god.
Speaker 2I had gotten out of the bed on one side, turned the corner to go into the bathroom.
But all I did was walk between the bed and the wall.
Speaker 1Uh huh.
Speaker 2Now, mind, you would think I would know that I'm not sitting on a toy.
Speaker 1Yeah, you would.
You were just squatting.
I told you, guys.
Nice being.
Speaker 2The I was.
I was like, just let me.
She was like yelling at me.
She's trying to wake my sister Kaylee up, Like what do we do?
Like then I finally go in the bathroom and I pass out on the floor with a pillow next to the toilet for the rest of the night.
And then we were checking out the next day.
I didn't know what to do, like towels.
I'm trying to put water on it, like I felt so bad.
Speaker 1Hey, we said no pets.
You're like we don't have any oops.
Speaker 2Low moment, guys, low moment.
Speaker 1Okay, I was hilarious.
Speaker 2So the whole boint is don't have one too many or more than that.
And by the way, I just want to point out, like these stories are so far between, like yes, and also I just was not a big drinker in general, Like it wasn't like every night or every weekend I was drinking like crazy.
It's probably why I.
Speaker 1Was a big drinker.
I'm not gonna lie.
I mean, I well, I was just I loved to go out and I liked to drink with my friends if that's what we were doing.
Speaker 2I mean, I love to go out, like Okay, I danced for the Saint Louis Viper's cheerleaders.
By the way, if you don't know what that is, that was our professional roller hockey team.
This is when I was in high school.
But some of the girls were in high school.
Some of the girls were in college on the team, and we would go out and like the Blues players or the hockey players, sometimes we would run into the blues players like the actual hockey team players, but the roller hockey players would invite us out too, even though these guys were like older and should be and they would get us in.
I also had a fake id compliments my older sister, right, we looked perfect.
I know she gave it to me when I graduated high school as like a gift.
And she's four years old than me.
So I had a fake id for a long time so I could get in even if I wasn't going to drink.
But oh my god, we would drink white Russians koloa cream basically.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And do you remember summer apple martinis with apple puckers.
Speaker 1Oh my god, my mouth's watering a little bit, like I'm having a physical response.
Speaker 2Remember, these kids don't even know the liquor that we drank, Mad Dog twenty like Zema.
Do you remember Zema?
Speaker 1No?
Speaker 2Oh my gosh.
Zema was like a quasi beer, but it wasn't really a beer, and it was super sweet.
I remember.
I feel like it came out when I was in college, And if it didn't come out when I was in college, it became popular when I was in college.
Speaker 1You know what I'm remembering that I feel like I ended up having to be taken off the shelf or something.
I don't know if I ever had one.
They were called four locos.
Speaker 2I remember those.
Speaker 1I think they were like alcoholic energy drinks and they were literally like messing because alcohols are down are obviously, and then they were like messing with people, but now everyone just gets learn Yeah, oh my god.
Like the thing even now when people order and if you're listening, you might be one of these people.
And you know, when you order a Long Island iced tea, you just have one thing in mind, and that's to get turned yeah all the way.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Really, when somebody orders a Long Island you should say.
Speaker 1Are you okay?
What pain?
Are you knowing?
Speaker 2What do we need to talk about?
Speaker 1For real?
Speaker 2Or mind erasers which were even like more brutal.
Speaker 1Trying to remember what those were called mind erasers?
No, I really did you?
Like, have you blacked out?
No?
Speaker 2I have never blacked out from drinking.
I think the closest was not really understanding where I was when I was Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 1You knew the whole time.
Girl, I know how you are with peeing.
You're like, that looks like a nice corner to pee in.
Speaker 2No, I will tell you my serious story.
But go what were you going to ask me?
Because you said if I blackout?
Have you looked out?
Speaker 1I have?
There have been so many times that I do not.
I think they're called brown outs where like you remember someone told me that one time.
I don't know that's actually what people call them, but I'll remember like pieces, but there's also like pieces I just don't remember, and I would have to ask, like, and you know what's really wild is that started happening later without me even drinking as much as I used to.
I was like, it's not funny.
But I was like, I'm just going literally brain dead.
Speaker 2My lip is just not keeping up.
Speaker 1And I can't remember.
I just I would be like, I don't remember that at all, and people were like, oh my god.
We were all like drank the same and like it's scary.
So there were little things like that that as I got older, and it went from because you know, you start drinking at twenty one, your frontal lobes not even finished developing until you're twenty five.
You don't think about the consequences of things, and then at some point you started to realize, okay, this, like I should be concerned if I just don't remember portions of my life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2I haven't actively tried to block them out exactly.
Speaker 1No, I'm searching, like like like there have been times where I just don't remember how I got home.
Oh wow, and I'll have to be like, did we take an uber?
Did a friend drop us off?
Did?
I'm like, I'm just keeping it real.
Yeah, And it's like, okay, this that cause that should call you to ask yourself, is this healthy?
Might not be right for you?
Speaker 2What again are we trying to?
What are we dealing with here?
Speaker 1Exactly?
Speaker 2Okay, So do you have any Do you have any serious ones or something that made you either like stop drinking for a while or just like sort of examine relationship with it with alcohol or anything like that.
Speaker 1I do.
Yeah.
The biggest thing that comes to mind is I actually had a drunk driving accident and I was the drunk driver, and it was very serious.
I was, I was.
It was in my hometown.
It was early winter.
I think it was like our first snow that night.
When I was driving snow it just started, so you know, being from Ohio, it's like before the street cleaners come and everything just sort of gets that white coating on top.
And I was out with friends and I was at my friends he was having like a little house party, and I just I remember something upsetting me.
It was a little bit of a jealousy thing, actually, if I'm being honest, and I was like, I didn't like the way I felt, and I was like, I'm just going to go home.
And I was about a mile from my mom and Dad's where I lived at the time, and when I was driving, I shouldn't have been driving because I was intoxicated, and I looked at my phone and all of a sudden it was like oooh.
And I remember, you know, if you are driving and you hit a puddle in your car like starts to spin out, and you instinctually you try to get control with the steering wheel.
I was trying to do that, and I remember being like, you're not like I was rolling, like going upside down.
I was like, you were rolling exactly.
Oh wow.
And I kind of just like let go and Jesus taking the wheel.
And I remember like, I must have.
Speaker 2What was the boom?
What did you did you hit something?
Speaker 1Yeah?
You hit I didn't know until I got out of my car.
I had to.
All of my windows were shattered, all of my air bot bags had deployed.
It was also a brand new car, my first brand new car I ever bought.
It was a It was a Ford Focus but I felt like a bad bitch because it was my first brand new, like first owner car that I got, and the if you're watching, I'm gesturing it.
But the ceiling of my car because we rolled, was like pressed down on my head.
I said, we was.
I was only because I rolled the car and so I like ducked under the ceiling and had to push the door open.
And I couldn't find my phone because obviously I let it go while that was happening.
And so the car rolled and landed back on its four tires, but the ceiling was like pressed down because of how it rolled.
And there was a parked car, which is what I hit, that would have been on the opposite side of the road.
So I crossed.
I was on the right right side, and I crossed the center line and hit a parked car and that car was pushed up onto the sidewalk and it was bad.
And I was like the first thing I said, and this was just sort of like I was in shock.
Obviously, I was like, because my parents told me when I first started driving, if you ever have a fender bender or something like that, you don't have to call the police.
Like my insurance, you can still make an insurance claim without a police report, and sometimes the police will just give you a ticket, and so if both parties agree, it's better just to exchange insurance information.
So the first thing I said was, you don't have the police.
I have insurance because I knew.
Speaker 2I was wait, who are you talking to?
Speaker 1There was already a crowd of people who had started to come from their homes.
And this is at like one thirty in the morning.
People heard outside yeah, and someone was like, you're And I looked down and I had blood all over me, and I was like, I need to find my phone, and so I started digging through like the glass and everything dishoveled in my car on my phone.
Called my mom and was like, I had an accident.
I'm pretty sure, I'm okay, and no one else was involved, but it's very bad, like no one's hurt in terms of like yeah, but it's bad.
And she said, have you been drinking?
And I said, yeah, I have.
I was like, it's bad, Mom, please hurry, and she said okay.
And then I called a friend of mine who actually had just gotten to the party that I went to, but she worked like nights at a hospital, so she had him been drinking and she was in her scrubs, and I just felt very alone.
And also all those strangers were just looking at me.
And it was cold, like I didn't have a proper coat for the snow because I was out from earlier.
I just had a hoodie and so I was like, I just didn't know what to do.
So I called her.
The police came, and the police pulled up at about the same time as my mom, and then my friend came also, and then the news came, a fire truck, the ambulance.
It was a scene, and I was just sitting on someone's front yard steps and I remember the cop asked me what direction I was going, and I actually said the wrong direction, but at that point it I was so turned around in shock and just yeah, and you know, they were like, she said, I need you to take to write down what happened, and so I said, I'm in shock and shaking.
Can my mom do it for me?
And she was like sure.
And it was interesting because since my friend had scrubs on, it was sort of like standing with me.
The police officer never tried to come closer to me, so if I would have smelled like alcohol or something, I don't know if that was intentional or not.
But then the ambulance came up and they were like, do you need to go to the hospital, and I was like, I whispered to my mom.
I was like, I don't know if I need to go to the hospital, but I'd rather go to the hospital than jail.
And if I said, and I also don't know if something's wrong with me, but if they're not going to check if I'm drunk now, then I would don't want to go to the hospital because they'll probably check my blood alcohol level.
What should I do?
And my mom was like, bitch, say bitch.
She was like, I don't know.
If you think you're seriously injured, though, you should go to the hospital.
And they were like we need an answer, and I was like, I'm not going to go, and I was my plan was if I'll just ask to go, oh, I'll change my mind.
If I end up they're going to take me to jail.
I was really afraid and it was really irresponsible of me.
I just want to say, as I'm sharing the story, I know that it was it was a long time ago, and so let's quickly wrap it up.
The police officer came and said, I have to cite you with failure to control.
It's the same as a speeding ticket.
And she looked at my mom and said, get him home safe.
Wow, And it was like it felt like such a blessing, but I also felt so much guilt and shame and all kinds of things.
So it really called me to take a pause and to think about a lot of a lot of like because up till then, everything was so loose and free and fun, and none of my decisions when it came to drinking had any real consequences.
And at that moment, I was like, I could have lost everything in an instant, and that really just displayed it for me.
Speaker 2That's crazy too, because you were a mile from the house, Like how long does it take to drive a mile?
Five minutes?
Maybe?
Like, but they do say that a lot of times that that's when the worst accidents happened, because that's when people will sort of they get proud, like and they also are like just a little less intentional maybe I don't know if that's the right word, but like just not so diligent because it's like, oh, I'm almost home, yeah, right, And that's when you know you might pick up the phone or I remember, like when I was a kid, them saying like, oh, that's when people take their seatbelt off.
They're almost home and they take their seatbelt off.
Like yeah, because seatbelts, oh, only became a big thing in like the late eighties.
Speaker 1Like right, if I didn't have a seat but my dad never wore a seatbelt when I was growing up and we lived there.
If I wasn't wearing a seatbelt, I probably wouldn't be sitting here to tell the story.
It was very serious.
Speaker 2Wow, that's crazy.
I never knew that story.
Speaker 1Yeah, what about you?
Any like real heavy moments with alcohol?
Speaker 2Yes, one when Dom was two, I was trainer at Equinox Kent and I were already going through the divorce.
I did not have him that like the night I went out with friends after work and actually I went over to one friend's apartment and we had dinner together.
I was in competition prep, so but I was like far enough out from competition that I was still able to have drinks if I wanted to, but I would clean, like I wouldn't have sugar drinks.
Training anyways, we had I know exactly what I had for dinner.
I had a big steak, I had rice, I had vegetables, cause again I was in training, And we had one drink there, so you know you're drinking it while you're eating dinner.
Speaker 1Yeah, then we leave, we.
Speaker 2Go meet friends at this like sort of restaurant e bar.
So there's like a good hour between the drink, the first drink and then getting to the bar and having the next drink.
So I have the second drink.
Fine, that's only two drinks.
There's been time there's been a big meal in between.
Like that's that was not a big deal for me.
And it was a big group of people I worked with.
And then a few more people showed up, and one of the guys was like, oh, let's all do a shot.
And I sort of knew in my mind like, Okay, the SHOT's gonna be the last thing I do.
Like I'm that's fine, Like okay, And he goes to the bar, he gets the shots, comes back, we all take shots, and very quickly after that, things started to go downhill all of a sudden, like the whole room sort of got blurry.
Couldn't like I could hear everybody, but like couldn't really process the information.
I could tell that.
People were looking at me like something was wrong and they were like, holy clad, like she's really fucked up.
But in my mind I knew I shouldn't be really messed up.
And my girlfriend was like, are you okay?
And I said no, something's wrong and I could barely stand up straight.
So like she walks me to this She's like, you need to throw up.
She walks me to the bathroom, and I'm like leaning on her like fully, like she's holding me up.
Get to the bathroom.
I'm like hand down my throat trying to throw up.
I know something.
I know something is not right.
Can't get it to come out.
Come out of the bathroom.
Same thing, Like I am just all over the place like I'm a mess.
And everybody's like how much did she drink?
And I was like no, like and I'm trying to tell them something is wrong.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And the guy that brought the shot over he was like, yo, yo, you okay, okay.
I never liked this guy.
This guy was a scumbag from like and I was like, no, I'm not okay, and he's like, you need to throw up, and I was like I know, I can't, I can't.
I tried I and he's like, no, no, come outside, come outside.
So he takes me outside and he's like I'm sitting there on the ground and like head in my hands, and he's like, you need to throw up.
And I was like I can't get it out.
I've tried.
And he's like, open your mouth and I'm like what and he's like, my hand's bigger than yours.
Open your mouth and he shoves his hand down my throat and I start puking and I am just puking and puking and puking.
And I at this point, now everything's black.
I can't see anything, but I can hear.
I am fully this is what was crazy.
I could tell you right now everything that was said that night.
I could tell you.
I'm sitting on the curb, I'm puking.
I'm asking them to call me an ambulance.
I know I need to go to the hospital.
Nobody will call me an ambulance.
I think they thought, like I was just drunk.
He wouldn't call because he roofed me.
I couldn't.
I had my phone, I had my BlackBerry in my hand.
I couldn't see, like literally was black.
I couldn't see the numbers to dial, and he's he's saying to me, He's like, yo, yo, you want me go home with you?
You want me to go home with you?
And I was like, no, I'm not.
I'm going home by myself.
You sure, you sure I can take you home?
I was like no.
Like so he was literally just trying to come home and take advantage.
And as I'm saying out there on this curb puking, one of another guy that we worked with that was actually like in the like janitor department, a little bit older than us, nice had just pulled up to meet everybody, and uh, I had so he hadn't been drinking yet and he could tell I was not okay, and he's like, I will take her home, like she needs to go home.
They give me a plastic bag.
I puke in the bag the whole way home.
I can't stand up even getting out of the car.
I have to crawl and pull myself up the stairs by the banister.
Which was so scary because like looking back on it, I at least had the common sense to not get in bed right away, like I sat on the toilet and puked into the bathtub.
But like looking back now, It's just the scariest thing ever, because like again, if you lay down and pass out, you could choke on your vomit.
And it wasn't my Like, this was not me choosing to drink too much.
This was somebody being a scumbag trying to take advantage of me.
I was so messed up.
The next day I had called Kent and I was like, because he needed it, he was supposed to be bringing me dominic so he could go to work, and I was like, you can't bring me domb.
He was two.
I was like, I'm not okay, I need to go to the hospital and he's like, it's not gonna be in your blood anyways, at this point, it'll be out.
Kent used to be highway patrol, so he knew.
And I was like, I'm telling you, I'm not capable of taking care of him right now, and he was like, I have to go to work on him.
So he brings me domb, which is just crazy.
In hindsight, I think maybe he didn't really think that I had been roofed.
Maybe he thought I had just drank too much until he saw me and he realized.
But there was he was already like yeah, I like Mickey Mouse, clubbed it for dominic all day long.
Like again, he was two, so he was fine to watch Mickey Mouse.
And I'm like crawling to the kitchen to get him food, putting it on the table, like I just felt like the worst mom ever.
By five o'clock that night, I finally was starting to feel better.
Put him in the stroller.
McDonald's was across the street.
Walked he got of food at MCDA.
You know, you just like grease and things.
But at that point, like I said, I was very aware that I had been roofed.
Kent had now understood.
He was calling like every hour to check on us.
Yeah, And it was crazy because the next day when I went to work, Kent came and as I was walking in, the guy who roofed me was walking out, and he looked at me, and he looked at Kent, and I think he tried to say something to me, and I said, I looked at him and I said, don't ever fucking talk to me, don't ever fucking look at me, or I will tell everybody what you did.
And he didn't.
He I mean, it was years that I still worked there, and he knew he if I was in one area of the gym.
He knew to not be near me, he knew not to talk to me, he knew not to he like.
Speaker 1Well, that's the thing about like drinking heavily because people it's easier to be victimized, like rufied, because people are around you are a little tipsy, so they're not noticing when your behavior really changes, or because some people are like, oh, she's just drunk, and yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 2It was so scary.
And from that point on, I to this day, I rarely let somebody get me a drink and like, yeah, from that point on, I just was like again, I didn't drink that much.
It was two drinks and a shot over the course of four hours, but I just everything changed.
I was like nothing is worth that, Like that was my life, that was my son, Like that could have been so bad.
Like thank god, for whatever reason, I was aware enough of everything still happening and to say like, no, you're not coming home, Like so, yeah, we have all our fun jokes about you know, it's all fun and games until it's not.
And that's the thing is you just never know when it's not.
So it's like I think always having a good like conversations around it.
Always being aware, looking out for yourself, looking out for the people that you're with, you know.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's fun every once in a while to get a nice little buzz totally.
Speaker 1But but like they say, drink responsibly.
Yeah, And there really is a line I think for because I'm confident that you and I do not have drinking problems like the way like someone who struggles with alcoholism or something like that.
But you can still find yourself in situations where it gets a little, a little.
Speaker 2Scary, a little dicey.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Yeah, so I do it definitely.
You know, I've gone through a journey and it's it's been a big part of me accepting where I'm at in life now realizing I just don't like that the way that I did, Like my if I have I know this sounds like a lot to you, but if I have more than three drinks, I'm starting to not really like like I'm like, okay, Donald, You're you're actually not gonna enjoy yourself.
You're gonna get two buzzed.
Yeah, you're gonna feel lethargic, You're gonna you kind of feel cloudy, and puffy, and it's just hits different when you're forty, when you're in your.
Speaker 2Forties, if there's a time when I'm like having drinks, which, like I said, I don't have it that often.
Like it was more like, oh, date night, you know, a glass or two of wine, love that or a paloma or two love that?
So three doesn't like, you know, you're a guy, I'm a girl.
Our size is different, so two does not sound like a big deal to me, even I guess three maybe over the course, three would be a lot for me these days because like now I'm just like, don't drink.
I just don't drink very much.
But yeah, it's same thing like the next day you're just like, oh oh yeah, you gotta really decide you got really well?
Okay, I will say this.
So one of my girlfriends who I've been friends with literally since Dom was two.
It's funny because now obviously Dom's sixteen and she has a nine month old, like she just had a baby.
But we are going to Backstreet Boys next weekend.
Oh my god, I'm so excited.
We're celebrating both of our birthdays.
Her birthday was August sixth, obviously mine in September, but they'll already be gone.
So we were like, Okay, let's do this.
Yeah, I will have two drinks at night by that point.
By the time we go to Backstreet Boys, I will be I think six and a half weeks post stem cells.
Speaker 1Tough things tuck.
Yeah, baby, I listen.
Speaker 2I am making a calculated decision.
And here's the thing.
I might get there and decide not to at all, but I've also said in my mind, like if I want to have a drink or two, like this is her and I have not gone out in forever, Like, I'm gonna have two drinks.
I'm gonna make sure I'm very well hydrated.
We are going to see the Backstreet Boys.
It's literally like we're flying in on Friday, being them Friday night, and we're flying home on Saturday.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I'm to do all the things, all the hydration, all the things anti inflammatory.
But I am really excited for that.
Speaker 1That's awesome.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Now, while you were away, Nell and I took Katrina out for her birthday.
And she's not really drinking a lot right now, but so I had one cocktail.
But then afterwards Nell and I went to a consumption lounge.
Like, for like a dispensary that in the back has this really beautiful patio and lounge in places where you can drink these THHC drinks or mocktails.
Okay they have no alcohol, or you can smoke them if you got like whatever you bought inside, you can do all the things I got to tell you.
You know, it's legal here in California.
So I thought it was so cool because I had that like being out vibe.
But everyone was just so chill, you know.
Everyone was just like I was, like, they wanted to make some money.
They put a food truck up a lot of this, put a kitchen exactly like sell some frozen make money, right.
But anyways, it's just like it is interesting to see I still like to, you know, enjoy from sometimes and have a cocktail or a gummy or something like that.
But it's just it feels really good to be where I'm at in life because I'm just like, I also know there's there's just so many healthy boundaries around it that weren't there, and it took a little bit of living some like funny stories that were like still like you don't want to do that as an adult.
It ain't cute.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly, never seen it pretty, never seen pretty drunk.
Speaker 1So I'm happy to be have made it past those stages.
And I think it is.
Speaker 2Really curious or like really interesting, because the younger generation now has this much more like sober curious movement where they're not drinking as much, like they are maybe leaning more towards like a THC or a CBD or just not at all.
Like it's just like they're probably because they have watched us and had all our crazies and they're like yeah, they're like, yeah.
Speaker 1Ain't cute.
When Annelle's family was in town, he has two younger cousins.
They're they're but their family is culturally it's normal for teenagers to have a drink with their family.
If they're having wine or champagne or even if they're mixing cocktails or something, they'll share a little bit with them.
And it's interesting because I've just never seen two girls their age seem to have such an adult balanced perspective of alcohol because when I was that age, every well I didn't drink.
I was twenty one, but everyone that age was like late teen's early twenties was like wanted to get fucked.
Speaker 2Up, I think because it's introduced to them and they're allowed, so the curiosity is all.
Speaker 1Yeah, I do wonder if it because it's this big thing that you have to wait to do and you can't do it yet, and I wonder if it builds up that I don't know.
Speaker 2Well in Paris, actually in Italy and in Paris.
So when I took Don to Italy last year, Dom was fifteen and a half and we did this like cooking class thing and the guy just poured Dom a glass.
Speaker 1Of wine without asking.
Speaker 2And I mean, don't get me wrong, Dom looks a little bit older than his age, but obviously he doesn't look twenty one.
Yeah, and Dom's looking at me like what, and I said, I was like, if you want to try a sip of it, you can.
I know Don doesn't like alcohol, and so he took a sip and he.
Speaker 1Was like yeah.
Speaker 2But in Italy they let kids drink wine, even at restaurants and stuff like that.
So now this year we go to France.
Our first night out at dinner where at this beautiful restaurant it's overlooking the Eiffel Tower.
It was like this five course meal.
The first thing they do.
Because I guess a bottle of champagne was included with the meal.
I didn't realize that is they pour the champagne, but they pour it for me and Tom, and I'm like, okay, he doesn't look older than you drink right, And I like we did a cheers with it, even though we didn't drink it.
Like I posted a boomerang of it, and I was like, I guess Dom looks old enough to drink.
And everybody was messaging me They're like in France, I think they were saying, like I think they were saying, you have to be sixteen to drink with your parents and eighteen to drink alone.
But everywhere we went they poured Dom a glass of wine like if it came with the thing, with the experience, they just poured one for him.
He did obviously he didn't drink, like no, he just thought it was so funny that because when we did the Emily in Paris walking Food tour, it ends at this place where they do like this cheeseboard and blah blah blah, and same thing, they pour the wine, pour it for Dom.
Speaker 1Yeah, but I do.
Speaker 2Think same thing.
It's just in other countries and other cultures.
There's not such this stigma on it, and so I think it's not like this like let's get fucked right.
It's interesting because I actually feel like it's the same way when it comes to like I'm gonna go off topic a little bit, but like sex and the naked body.
Speaker 1Oh, I agree, girl, that's it.
We should do that.
Speaker 2We should do that.
Because we went to see Mulin Rouge in France or in Paris, which is a burlesque show.
They're topless, they're tatas are out.
Dom was so uncomfortable, would not look like turned his head the other way, and he was like, well, you know, because he's trying to find his way actually with God and religion anyways, and so he feels a little bit like that's and he shouldn't and that's bad.
And I was like, dumb, it's just not a big deal.
I was like, you have nipples, they have no This was.
Speaker 1Your food source, your your first food source.
Speaker 2Also like they were all all natural moves, so like none of them had like ginormously they were all actually pretty small, and like I was like, what's the difference?
Like I was trying to explain to him, like it's only sexual if you make it sexual.
Speaker 1I agree.
I think that the idea of and to your point, and this is something I think we could at another time really dive into people being told like I remember thinking that I judged people who showed too much of their body, especially girls and women, and I think that's society and that that is a problem, and it creates more of a perversion in people's mind because they're like, oh, when someone's naked, you think about filling the blank instead of just like respecting people's bodies.
Speaker 2And she's doing that because she wants.
Speaker 1Right, blah blah blah.
It creates this narrative that it doesn't have to exist.
I think it's just another Yeah.
Speaker 2Oh we got one another podcast episode coming for you, but over now, I think we could stick a cork.
Speaker 1Like that.
Yeah, thank you guys for listening today.
And I do just want to say if you're someone who is who struggles with alcohol or anything, if you're struggling with addiction of any kind, there's nothing to be ashamed about that.
And I just want to give a blurb of definitely seek seek the help and support that you need because it's very serious and you're not alone.
There's a lot of people who struggle with those type.
Speaker 2Of We can put some resources in the show notes, for sure.
I always think it's good to give the resources.
Yes, we were having a little bit of fun today, obviously reminiscing about our early.
Speaker 1Day bringing a little bit.
Speaker 2Yeah, okay, actually, now that we relive that, I'm a little imbursed.
Speaker 1I love the being in the hotel room story.
That's amazing.
That was a bad one.
Like I said, that was.
Speaker 2If you don't have any funny stories you want to share with us, you know, you can always email us at Everything's Perfect Podcast at gmail dot com.
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Speaker 2Bye, witn