[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, everybody.

[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to another episode of Altacol M-A-F-S.

[SPEAKER_00]: Today is a math catch-up episode where I catch up with past participants from married at first sight.

[SPEAKER_00]: My guest today is from season eleven of married at first sight, which was set in New Orleans and filmed the film during the pandemic.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was married to Christina, chose to get a divorce and decision day.

[SPEAKER_00]: And as you may guess, my guest is Henry Rodriguez.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Henry, how are you?

[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I am doing well.

[SPEAKER_01]: It is a pleasure to be here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So what's going on?

[SPEAKER_00]: I asked everyone who comes in starting with an update.

[SPEAKER_00]: How are you?

[SPEAKER_00]: What's happening?

[SPEAKER_00]: What's new?

[SPEAKER_00]: What's the same?

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so I have been dating a girlfriend Kayla for a minute.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's been a minute.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're still together and doing well.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then I, you know, still working.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually still working at the same place.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was then, but I'm a different position now as a person recruiter, which has involved a lot more travel this past year.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that's been fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I live in [SPEAKER_01]: a bigger space now.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so excited.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a little closet like I was in back then.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been.

[SPEAKER_00]: What is it five years?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think yeah, tons flies, but yeah, it's pandemic.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was twenty twenty.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, five years.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you just mentioned travel.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that means you'd be in other places besides Northern Virginia.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I said that probably because I was jet lagged and had some on the best count, but that wasn't the only place I tried, but they were going to go down.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've traveled a lot more in recent years and up to that point.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that made it seem like Northern Virginia was like the only place I've been and that was not the case.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've been to point more places, but it's what [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're going to get into what is actual and what is like for their show.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, while we're on there, like, what has been your favorite place to travel to recently or in ever?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, so I actually, so in regards to travel.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I had to get a passport for this show because we were going to Mexico.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: But a couple of years ago, like Kayla and I went to Italy and I was but that's my far like the, I mean, it was like four and some late coma and Venice and it was just, we were there for two weeks and it was, it was absolutely amazing.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that by far is the best.

[SPEAKER_01]: In the States, I recently went to for work and I made a little vacay out of it and went to San Diego.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that was by far probably my favorite place in the city problem.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, nice.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been to San Diego, but just even based on the season, it's so pretty.

[SPEAKER_00]: Every time it was.

[SPEAKER_01]: It is gorgeous.

[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, we couldn't connect, but been from that season was hit in the top.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he made some recommendations.

[SPEAKER_01]: We went to a couple of restaurants, he suggested, wanted to meet him in person, but it was just non-stop.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we kind of like, but yeah, I know, San Diego, like, I can't, can't suggest it enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, awesome.

[SPEAKER_00]: I said I was going to do this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I used to have a co-host on the podcast and you were one of her favorites.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I told her I'm going to give her you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I shout out for her.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so sad that you know, she wasn't here to talk with you, but okay, when we were introduced to you, Henry, in your intro package part of what you said was my lack of eye contact and my little confidence doesn't help me in dating.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you say those words or did they say, they gather that and say, okay, say this?

[SPEAKER_00]: Is this how you wanted to introduce yourself to us?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like my memory is kind of shot.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am more than confident.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's not all I said.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, he said more.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you fill.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking for hours and you say a bunch of things and they do sometimes kind of lead you to say like, you know, certain things maybe forced like, you know, I'll say for a narrative or whatever you want.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I certainly said you or I mentioned eye contact issue and [SPEAKER_01]: lack of confidence, but you know, I definitely said more than that.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's there's there's no doubt about that, but they kind of spliced it however they they want.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's go back.

[SPEAKER_00]: You did share with us that you had heart surgeries before you did this.

[SPEAKER_00]: How much of that did that play in you signing up for maps or did that play anything at all or did two separate things or intertwined?

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the heart surgery was, yeah, that was just made ten, that was ten years ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: At that point, it was like five years ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to say it played a big decision.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think in general, I'm out white, if it plays a distant certain things, if that makes sense, because like, I don't know, I'm just very grateful for it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was something that, like, it was like an, it was an issue that was kind of accidentally discovered.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I certainly could have, or would have had like a serious heart attack and who knows, you know, what that, that would come of that would have been.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say, like, I really thought about it, but it's not only plays a factor, like in my decision-making, just in general.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, just in terms of, like, like, life is short, carpeting.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, things, yeah, just, like, in regards to, yeah, I mean, like, I, I value life, I value my time.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you, you know, for those that follow me on Instagram, I'm, I'm pretty actors.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I look so in life.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't, I do travel more now, but I just, [SPEAKER_01]: I try to do things, you know, I try to enjoy the city I live in, and just enjoy life, I can enjoy it while I come.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, so you have to put it back there in that aspect.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: So walk us through the process of signing up for maps.

[SPEAKER_00]: How did you sign up where you recruited or what was your mindset and like you know what I'm going to be on TV?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: What was that like for you?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the TV part was like, probably the most intimidating, the least interesting part of that tell.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was definitely a little old shy, but no, so I got a call one day.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was working, it was during the work week.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was working on site at a hospital and I shared an office.

[SPEAKER_01]: with my friend slash colleague coordinator at the time anyway, no, so they called and said that someone referred me still have no idea who it who it is to personally refer me, but yeah, they just [SPEAKER_01]: Someone introduced themselves as a casting agent.

[SPEAKER_01]: They had a conversation with me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't really familiar with the show.

[SPEAKER_01]: I hadn't heard of it at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: But they just kind of explained the show and next steps and what the process we kind of looked like and told me to mull it over.

[SPEAKER_01]: Then I walked back into the office and I remember telling Courtney, I was like, I got this crazy phone call, some casting agent from [SPEAKER_01]: on a production team from Meredith, for a say, just calling she goes, oh my god, Meredith, for a say, my mom watches that show, like, and you know, when I just looked it up, and that was really it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just kind of gave it some thought and educated myself as best I could.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've read a lot about successful couples and opposite, and I said, watch a number of episodes, and the rest is kind of history.

[SPEAKER_00]: So when you spread watch, who did any couple stand out to you?

[SPEAKER_00]: Was there any couple you liked at the time or?

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I really just like, I remember Courtney kind of picked out some seasons and looked at it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I remember, I remember, like, I know like, Jeffty and Chinese who was a kind of popular couple of that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've come at Jamie and Doug.

[SPEAKER_01]: Was it their plan?

[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've watched their season, but like they were just like kind of seem to be like the posts are couple for a lot of stuff I was looking at, but.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: And now I remember Jamie and M death.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to come up with a couple that just kept coming up.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there were some couples that definitely got some more attention in the algorithm.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, just kind of like I said, watch random episodes and just a good idea of what it was.

[SPEAKER_00]: OK.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you just decided, OK, I'll just go ahead.

[SPEAKER_00]: The worst that could happen is I don't find love or the best that happened I will.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So my, yes, I really went back and forth on it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I talked a lot about it with my brother, a lot about it with friends and family.

[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, yeah, it was kind of like, I just looked at it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was the once in a lifetime opportunity.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you know, I did the dating apps for a long time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously with no success.

[SPEAKER_01]: No one on just a small city.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yeah, like, why not?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like give this a go.

[SPEAKER_01]: My final, I was like, if I don't do it, I'm going to regret it and always ask what is.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if I do it, then then then I will sign it up like I gave it a shot.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Looking back at that time, do you think you were ready for marriage?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I do, I think if I would have [SPEAKER_01]: I think if it would have been a better match, like absolutely.

[SPEAKER_01]: Or I mean, I definitely, I mean, my mindset was, I mean, I kept on saying this to friends and I said, I don't know how much they showed on.

[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of, it kind of gets blurry what I actually showed.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I know a number of times I was like, yeah, you know, like, what a great story it would be if, if.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what do you and a man is the perfect decision?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, like, brown and dense and or, you know, what's there?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's Jessica and and awesome.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, from you see, yeah, you see, like, you know, those are like the, like that's whatever you want strides for.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like when they do it and the unfortunate reality is.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's likely not going to be the case, but instead that it is going to be the case.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think it was the right match.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I do think I would have been right.

[SPEAKER_01]: It just just wasn't meant to be.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have a question because I've had people of mine.

[SPEAKER_00]: I always say it on the episodes is when someone comes in a dating show and they say, I'm guarded.

[SPEAKER_00]: It takes me a while to be open.

[SPEAKER_00]: You said that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So since I have someone, you know, it's that way.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can you walk me into how you think when you sign up for a show like that?

[SPEAKER_00]: How do you think it plays out or from your perspective?

[SPEAKER_00]: How does that work being guarded or paid for to open out?

[SPEAKER_00]: How do you think it works on a dating show or do you think it was absolutely your match?

[SPEAKER_00]: It totally wouldn't have mattered at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not just saying this as a copy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think it would have been a better match than people would have thought like a much different version of me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was just [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I mean, like, obviously, just kind of struggled from the beginning.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then you add like cameras on top of that and you know, they're asking questions that are just not fun questions to, you know what I'm saying to deal with, especially on camera.

[SPEAKER_01]: It just, like, I mean, my girlfriend now or like, I mean, if it was better match, like, you, like, I would have been way more open.

[SPEAKER_01]: My personality would have come out a lot more.

[SPEAKER_01]: And don't give me one, editing play a big part.

[SPEAKER_01]: They made it seem like I couldn't work two sentences, you know, gather back to back.

[SPEAKER_01]: But because they just cut out a lot of what I said.

[SPEAKER_01]: But still with the right person, it would have been a much different, much more.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just a much different experience.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're on our couches and as viewers, we're just like, but they knew what they signed up for.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be cameras.

[SPEAKER_00]: So from your point of view, what was the thing that was so jarring?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because you don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know what to expect.

[SPEAKER_00]: You've never done it before.

[SPEAKER_00]: What was the thing that you couldn't anticipate?

[SPEAKER_00]: And then it happened, you know, like, oh, my God, what have I gotten myself into in terms of the cameras?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the, that's a great question.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, [SPEAKER_01]: When you first started going through the process, you do a lot of filming before hand, like before they find a match for you.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you kind of get a feel for what it's like.

[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, from me, it's just, yeah, I'll use this as an example.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like my item friends, a number of friends that filmed with me, and especially for like group sessions, like they'd be like, hey, invite a couple of friends to do, you know, for a different time.

[SPEAKER_01]: activity and they would be like so excited to do it and I'm like it's not that exciting like they're going to put a microphone on you and it's just there's going to be like a lot of waiting and you know and it's just not it's just not what you think it is and like every single time they would all look at it as exciting and they would sign up and then [SPEAKER_01]: they get the mics put on and then they'd all get nervous all of a sudden because they're mic'd up and then the cameras come on and then at some point someone's battery would die and they would have to like replace the batteries and then he'd be like whole that conversation okay start back where you get one I just not like I don't know if that answers your question it's not it's just not very natural and there's just a lot of interruptions along the way and you just kind of have to you know constantly like pause and restarting young [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just spoken to a number of people and I think they say that it just gets exhausting.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a long day.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're always like, how is this going to take five hours?

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, OK, because like, there's just a lot of work that goes into it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you mentioned your friends, I was gonna ask because when you told them that you were matched, they genuinely looked surprised.

[SPEAKER_00]: Are they just good actors or, I mean, you have to give your friends a heads up, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: What they're coming to film?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my friend Craig definitely knew my friend Kyle, I just invited him and he wasn't as, like, he didn't really know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was just picking up on it, but he was like, why are we in, you know, whatever, but Craig definitely know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Craig, Craig's just a good actor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because when I was like, you were my top and he were like, what?

[SPEAKER_00]: And he had to know that.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was caught.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what Kyle, he definitely knew I was going through the process.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I just told them that we were going to go get drinks at this bar that they told us to get off that and just have a conversation about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But like I said, Craig, yeah, he's a good actor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: So previously in the early parts of maps, I call them old era and new era maps.

[SPEAKER_00]: But in old era, they used to give you guys like titles or descriptors.

[SPEAKER_00]: And yours was like the reserved agenda.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you?

[SPEAKER_00]: Did they tell you ahead of time?

[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you find out with the rest of us like, oh, this is what we are?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, that is, I remember a lot of this kind of joke and about that wondering what our nicknames are going to be.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't give you a heads off.

[SPEAKER_01]: You don't, you have no say in that.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's like whatever they give you is what it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I suppose it could have been worse.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll take it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you get to watch the episode before we walk like, do they send you screeners or do you just watch it the same time as Oh gosh.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, you go.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you do not at all get to watch any episodes except for I assume you're familiar with the after part.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so if you're asked to do one of those while you're filming that you will they will show you scenes.

[SPEAKER_01]: of like whatever that episode is going to be but you don't even get to see it before after but you see it like while you're doing it after party but that's that's like because you get in and those are really just like blips you know that those are like just short short scenes though that's all you get [SPEAKER_00]: that is crazy and sometimes I do believe like in the after party for for some scenes I think like you guys even get something different from what we see I believe but did you enjoy filming after party like did you like the flying and living everything and pretending that you don't know what happens honestly so I I'm trying to think so different [SPEAKER_01]: If I'm, I remember, so yeah, I did like film in it because it was just, I really like hanging out with like Woody.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're really, we all got on pretty good.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it was always just fun to kind of like catch up.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just remember kind of being frustrated because when you're filming an after party, that was like right when the season started.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember just being unhappy of, I know, like my edit and just kind of being made to look like I was, [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like more awkward and stuff than what I was.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that was kind of frustrating.

[SPEAKER_01]: But as far as filming it, yeah, it was fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like I said, it was always fun to kind of hang out with the other couples and kind of relive their moments.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to remember how you guys filmed it.

[SPEAKER_00]: If it was during the pandemic, was it remote?

[SPEAKER_00]: Was it like a zoom thing or were you guys in person?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, yeah, we were in person.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so for some of them, I remember going back to the apartment where we were all living.

[SPEAKER_01]: They pick us someone's space and film in there.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then for some other date, there was like a hotel you met at to film.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it was person.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we met your family during the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know again if it's editing, but was it a hard cell to them that you were going to do this show?

[SPEAKER_01]: So when I was going through the experience early on, my brother lives in Nova and Northern Virginia.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was constantly talking to him about it, but I didn't tell him, I did not tell my parents until I was going through the callback sessions.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I don't know if you know this, but it, if memory serves me correct, it's like three callback sessions and it dwindles down each time.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: The first callback sessions, the biggest group, then if you get invited, you know, and so forth.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember getting invited to the final callback session where it was just me and I think six or seven other guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh my God, this is [SPEAKER_01]: This is happening become real.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so I remember that night, I drove to my parents' place.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a twenty minute drive that my dad was working.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, let me talk to my mom first, make sure she's okay with this.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then see what she thinks my dad's opinion is going to.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and no, my mom was like, my mom didn't think I was.

[SPEAKER_01]: I remember when I showed up, she was like, [SPEAKER_01]: Did you get someone pregnant?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what's going on?

[SPEAKER_01]: I said, no, I said, I just talked to you.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she, she didn't think I was serious, but she was like more than excited.

[SPEAKER_01]: She was like, oh, I could finally potentially have a daughter in law.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then she's like, she's like, if your dad has any issues, I'll set them straight.

[SPEAKER_01]: But my dad was fine with it too.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, what was the worst that you thought would happen?

[SPEAKER_00]: in this scenario besides, I mean, getting divorce is an easy answer, but what was your biggest fear going into this?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say two things.

[SPEAKER_01]: I guess this is probably a fear of a lot of people who do it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But especially in New Orleans, my biggest fear of going into it was that it was going to be someone that I either knew or someone that I had matched with before and it wasn't like a good experience.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd say besides that just in general, I was just afraid that it would be like a really bad toxic.

[SPEAKER_01]: kind.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think that would happen with me because I'm pretty like way back and wouldn't.

[SPEAKER_01]: And most scenarios won't let it get to our point, but just, you know, kind of like it would just be really bad and.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: And just ugly, but it wasn't.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it wasn't great, but it wasn't.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: On the scale of one to ten, how uncomfortable were you at the bachelor party?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there were moments, I'd say I saw it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not the whole time, but there were moments when I was pretty uncomfortable.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it was the first time we actually saw like strippers on maps and things in really, is this like time like, wow, what is happening right now?

[SPEAKER_01]: The strippers came out in nowhere.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was not expecting that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Woody was like, he was like, come on, like, he's like, come on, Henry, like, and that's not working at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're kind of like, you know, got behind a couple of them.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I had a bright bright hat on, but yeah, but yeah, but it was uncomfortable at times.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it can't imagine.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we don't have to get into it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I know the whole incident happened with your friend, and you're threatening.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so what did you tell the experts that you wanted?

[SPEAKER_00]: I assume they asked you physically.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did they ask you to show, I know some people they said pictures of their exes and did you show that?

[SPEAKER_00]: Did they ask for celebrity crushes or walk us through that?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they ask for, yeah, you sounds like you went through that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so all that.

[SPEAKER_01]: They asked for pictures of your, of some of your exes or girls that you dated.

[SPEAKER_01]: They asked for celebrity crushes for sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know I definitely said keep back in sale.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm more than positive.

[SPEAKER_01]: I said Olivia Mon, I know Phomp can yots and I don't remember if I said her.

[SPEAKER_01]: But like, yeah, I said four or five crushes.

[SPEAKER_01]: I sent some pictures of my ex.

[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know what I told them?

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know, preferably, you know, I'm like, I'm like five, nine, five, ten.

[SPEAKER_01]: So just, you know, I was like, preferably, petite.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really, I'm not really like a stickler for a hair color.

[SPEAKER_01]: But, but, you know, I just told them like, [SPEAKER_01]: sophisticated, I prefer sophisticated someone who kind of has their stuff together as far as like, not necessarily have to be a professional, but kind of like, you know, just, just have a path.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like kind of like, is like put together and kind of knows where you're going, has a plan.

[SPEAKER_01]: Someone who's like responsible, someone who's funny, or, I remember saying this, I said, [SPEAKER_01]: I said someone who's funny or who at least can like take a joke, you know, that's not so tight.

[SPEAKER_01]: And like, you know, I mean someone who just who compliments me well, but I wish I knew it was kind of hard to figure that out.

[SPEAKER_01]: But no, no, you take like a bunch of like tests and you fill out a bunch of things.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I gave them a number of, you know, of kind of personal.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you guys do it because I'm a viewer on the wedding day.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so nervous because I'm just like, I can't even breathe.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't imagine how you must have felt on your wedding day.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you're standing there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they were happy to see you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, her side are like, he's cute.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good job.

[SPEAKER_00]: You see her walking down the aisle and your first reaction is what?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I look, I didn't.

[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't like, [SPEAKER_01]: I thought she was pretty.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to sit here and say, like, you know, I mean, like, she wasn't what I physically had, you know, kind of told them because once again, I said, and you know how they are, they like, like, opt that I said, petite, and then she wasn't like big at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: She was just taller.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and whatever.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that is one of my long-term ex-girlfriends was a taller girl.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't like, so no, no, I wasn't.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, I thought she was pretty.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to sit here and say, but I think part of it is that as much as [SPEAKER_01]: You go into it with an open mind and telling yourself to be open.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I think everyone kind of has in their head with their like acting or or wanting but but now I think from me I was just like super nervous and I was just like and I was standing up there forever and I think a lot was just like was nerves honestly [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask.

[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I didn't necessarily mean like it would have been something negative.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, because you're so nervous and you've been waiting and you don't know what to expect.

[SPEAKER_00]: And finally, all those works, those time of filling out the forms and all that.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming to fruition.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, what was that feeling?

[SPEAKER_00]: Was it like, okay, we're finally here.

[SPEAKER_00]: We can move forward.

[SPEAKER_01]: And no, and that was, I mean, I was waiting up there.

[SPEAKER_01]: like for a while.

[SPEAKER_01]: And as I'm sure all the grooms do, you know, when they do the show.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I have an nervous twitch which they absolutely showcase that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I think honestly, I do remember like, okay, thank God.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who she is.

[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely remember having that thought because I was really nervous.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember looking on her side and not recognizing [SPEAKER_01]: like any of our friends.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like that kind of like a good sign in that regard.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I do remember like the first thing was like, okay, like this isn't like a coworker.

[SPEAKER_01]: Or you know, or an ex girlfriend or something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that was about the fear that you had because a million Bennett had come across each other.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think Karen had seen miles before or saw the picture something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that was about the fear that you had.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so that happens.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to commend you for kissing your wife because another pet people I have is people saying, oh, you can't kiss.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, kiss my cheek.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know you, you're a star.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you did.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you never said about that.

[SPEAKER_01]: But she, I, I was a little, I think I was a little nervous in the sense of you just don't, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: You just, like, naturally when couples get married and they know each other.

[SPEAKER_01]: They know, I mean, they have chemistry and they know each other.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if it's going to be like, formerly intimate kiss or a pack or awkward or whatever, I think it's just like you just don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: And Christina did a great job of kind of [SPEAKER_01]: She kind of just grabbed me and she made it much more comfortable You know like situation and she and I have a like I'm sure she could feel how kind of nervous and awkward So yeah, she she definitely helped and that regard okay [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you're having your conversation.

[SPEAKER_00]: At the time we did not know when you asked where do you live, but we'll talk about that later.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the wedding now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Your friends pop up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then we see real world alum and now traders winner, Trishel.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, I mean, we didn't get a warning, I mean, not like they've been warned us, but some of us, you know, old schoolers, we knew who Trichelle was and we're like, oh, Henry's friends are Trichelle, but the way they had sold you to us, no one would ever think that you guys cross paths or with friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: So tell me about your friendship, how long you've known her, how you've got her.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you tell producers that you were friends with Trichelle or?

[SPEAKER_01]: I did not tell them because I was friends with Trichelle.

[SPEAKER_01]: I actually ran into Trishel yesterday, like legit was.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not as close to what they're now as I was at that time, but yeah, long story short, Trishel and I matched on [SPEAKER_01]: on a day.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was gender.

[SPEAKER_01]: She made it very clear that she just moved down from, well, well, long, she made it very clear.

[SPEAKER_01]: She just moved back to New Orleans after dating somebody, I'd have stayed for a long time.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she was looking for friends.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then she was like, and it's still we talked for a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, hey, this is random question.

[SPEAKER_01]: But do you happen to have like any girlfriends or is it just guy friends?

[SPEAKER_01]: I said, oh, no, I have a [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I have a group of friends that's pretty much half and half.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, half guys, half girls.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, honestly, I think you would fit in fit right in with the girls.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I think Bobby right up your alley.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so she and I met for a drink.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we can make sure she can make sure that I was normal.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then we invite our friends.

[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, she's not as close with her, but she is still best friends with those girls.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they hang out all the time.

[SPEAKER_01]: And they're really close.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so yeah, we hung out quite a bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was nice.

[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't nice to see her pop up.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess the question for you is after watching it because there was a lot of talk at the time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you think your friends were a little mean at the wedding?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was aggravated.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was speaking of like we spoke about the after party, you know, filming sessions not long ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the first after party session that I filmed was them showing me that clip.

[SPEAKER_01]: And Trashelle and Kristen certainly told me that they got drunk and like said some things.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, when I saw it, I was just like really caught off guard.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was not happy about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought it was unfair.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, clearly, I was not thrilled with what they had to say.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, was, is there anything about your wedding day, any memory that stands out to you, any behind the scenes that we don't know about that you remember?

[SPEAKER_01]: I, I will say one, in my opinion, one kind of frustrating thing with the show and what to add.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I thought the way, I had a great night.

[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, I thought the night was great.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was a lot of fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: family and friends got along well with my I was so nervous about that and just everyone got along really well and you know it's a long day I'm sure everyone you've ever talked every participant you've ever talked to tell I mean it's it's such a long day and trying it out and and yeah it's exhausting honestly but I don't know I mean when we were all kind of hanging out together everyone was getting [SPEAKER_01]: along well and it was fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: It really was.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Since it's you've never met your spouse, how do you guys choose your first dance song?

[SPEAKER_01]: They just play it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so, oh, so I'll say this.

[SPEAKER_01]: They, so you fill out paperwork of, like, they give you, like, this document that has like a bunch of questions and stuff regarding, like, how you want [SPEAKER_01]: the wedding to be your preference.

[SPEAKER_01]: And quite frankly, I assume the groom, I assume they just have to be nice like, yeah, I'm afraid to just, you know, take whatever.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but yeah, so it'll be like there's different options for like the aesthetic.

[SPEAKER_01]: you know, like more old school or more modern, and they ask you what kind of cake you want, and what kind of they ask you for some songs that you would like on the playlist.

[SPEAKER_01]: And with as far as the wedding and song, I do like, I don't actually don't recall seeing that on my on my question there, so I'm wondering if that's right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah, because I don't remember that being on there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think I'll ask future people.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, super hard.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like for you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you guys are talking.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think at the sweet heart table or something.

[SPEAKER_00]: And she mentioned that she came out of a relationship eight months prior.

[SPEAKER_00]: Your reaction to that was that before or after you had heard things about her previous relationship.

[SPEAKER_00]: But was that the first time?

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you hear it first from her that she just got out of a relationship eight months before?

[SPEAKER_01]: That was the first time.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was the first time that you had.

[SPEAKER_00]: What you seemed to think that it was, you thought it was too soon?

[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember what the reaction was, but is eight months enough time, do you think?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, so if I'm remembering correctly, it was eight months ago, she got out of the relationship, is that what it was?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what it was.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I remember, I think it was a little soon.

[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it was, I remember thinking it was a little sooner than I expected or to say it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't, you know, and also, I just remember thinking that there was more I had to learn about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't necessarily think that's too soon.

[SPEAKER_01]: Unless it's like, you know, like a multi year relationship and you're just getting out of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think that would be too soon.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what it was.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a long-term five-year relationship, but then she got out of the eight months before.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was going to ask, because something I always ask and grapple with is what is the etiquette before you get married at first sight?

[SPEAKER_00]: How long is too long?

[SPEAKER_00]: Is six months too soon?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because we've had people who are engaged six months prior, and they're here.

[SPEAKER_00]: For me, that's too soon.

[SPEAKER_00]: For someone else that, like, it's fine.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, I just think that there's a lot of factors.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, my I was confused in a different situation.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I remember being caught off guard and thinking that I was kind of like, okay, that is a little quick to get out get out of a long-term relationship and and and and do this.

[SPEAKER_01]: But once again, I think that there are a lot of factors that kind of play into things.

[SPEAKER_01]: And as far as the etiquette goes, yeah, that's a great question, because I definitely struggled with that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I wasn't coming out of anything serious for sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't into it, but I do remember being like, okay, am I a bad person if I go on a date?

[SPEAKER_01]: Am I a bad person if, you know, if I do something, you know, kind of, physical with someone.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I remember going on a date, it was a week or so.

[SPEAKER_01]: I had a good idea that I was gonna get matched, but it was definitely not official.

[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't match.

[SPEAKER_01]: I remember going on a date, a good, maybe a week before they officially, I was matched and it was a terrible day.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then I remember thinking, okay, this is a sign that I need to do this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was awful.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my, my math etiquette is once you start the process, to me, I think it's time to start because it's practice, what if you do get picked?

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not such a, it's not a long time, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: From when you're selected to when you're matched, it's about two months.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe, maybe.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good time to self-reflect not date.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you don't get picked, you go right back to business, so.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's completely fair because then it gets into life.

[SPEAKER_01]: what if you meet someone and it goes well and then how do you handle that?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a fair way to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: How long into the marriage did things start to fall apart for you?

[SPEAKER_01]: When I was [SPEAKER_01]: So I remember at the wedding, there were a couple of moments.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say wedding night, there were a couple of moments of where I could tell she was like really frustrated and just kind of a bit impatient about certain things.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, with you or with production.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's different.

[SPEAKER_01]: Actually not with me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just wanted to clarify that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: the with production and hold her defense when I look back on it there and I'm just going to be honest I was kind of like was production kind of stoken to flames a little bit to you know to get a reaction like I remember specifically they like she lost her backpack and [SPEAKER_01]: And then she couldn't find it and it had a couple of things in there that she wanted.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then they told her that it was in a different van that was a few blocks away.

[SPEAKER_01]: They were actually filming in a Olivia's wedding simultaneously at a hotel.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was not far away.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, they were like, you know, our producer was like, I just got confirmation.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's in someone's there was van.

[SPEAKER_01]: But she was, she was really upset about that.

[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple other things that happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: I remember I was like, maybe these are pink flags, but also it's a wedding night and it's a very stressful day.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a very big day.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a very long day.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm talking about when we were in a hotel.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was like one o'clock in the morning when some of that stuff was happening.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I remember just given some grace.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I had some concerns at that time.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, when I started falling apart, I guess at the honeymoon, honestly, I was just kind of concerned that our personalities just more a match.

[SPEAKER_01]: And not anything at all, negative against negative towards her.

[SPEAKER_01]: But more, I could just tell, OK, we just had way different hobbies.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she was way more outgoing than I was.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not as [SPEAKER_01]: introverted as the show made me a scene, but you know, be in a lot.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you, you honestly don't have to explain because I think anyone could see that it was just not a magic brings me to my question where there was a lot of online chatter where it was [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think you guys were set up for failure like just to be the the top of the season because nothing I don't know what the similarities were personally, but do you think so?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm going to be honest like yeah, I mean it's so when you when I was doing a lot of digging into the show [SPEAKER_01]: before, you know, like when I got into a call.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you read about some of the train wreck couples.

[SPEAKER_01]: And naturally, the online chatter is about what are not intentional for drama's sake.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if they do it on purpose, blah, blah, blah.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, like when we were getting to know each other once again, nothing, again, we just had, we had absolutely nothing in common.

[SPEAKER_01]: not absolutely not there, but we didn't have a lot in common.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and it's hard not to think, like, did it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Was it intentional?

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, what it was?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are we just, like, were we just matched for the sake of of, of drama and entertainment?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is, I mean, that was that question popped into my head.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, on a honeymoon, you know?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I will ask one thing though.

[SPEAKER_00]: She kept saying that she wanted to buy her flowers.

[SPEAKER_00]: The duration of your marriage.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you ever buy her flowers?

[SPEAKER_01]: I got dead.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I got her flowers on the final dinner.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, actually.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I did.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got flowers on the final dinner.

[SPEAKER_01]: But no, I'll be honest.

[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I got her flowers, obviously, the day of the wedding.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was like part of the event that I sent her.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm more than positive.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got flowers for her on the final dinner.

[SPEAKER_01]: Which honestly was a nice dinner.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what the show showed.

[SPEAKER_01]: But we had a really good conversation.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it was kind of like a nice, [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's the funniest list or the strangest list, but it makes the list.

[SPEAKER_01]: But when you guys drew to the story unit, you being, I don't know whether you were checked out or you were a nice guy, but [SPEAKER_00]: What was that about in what were you thinking?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I remember so I just remember that I like I remember that I was just kind of confused on like where she lived because what we had a conversation [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: She mentioned one area, and then, and once again, I don't remember what they show them, but they don't.

[SPEAKER_00]: Business district and downtown was what we said.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and then when we were together with a group of French to another thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and then, I don't know, just some things we weren't adding up.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that is, like, she's a flight attendant.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it totally makes sense that she, I have a friend who's a flight attendant.

[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_01]: She lives, and [SPEAKER_01]: like an apartment.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, her quote-unquote apartment is like with three or four other people, but she barely ever there.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like a way for her to have cheap rent and, you know, so she can fly around and stay at other places while she works.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm assuming that that's what the situation was, but that's just not how it was explained.

[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, I think a little bit of my frustration with it was my least favorite [SPEAKER_01]: thing of not my least, but one of my least aspects of filming at that time was filming in my apartment because I lived in a smaller space and quite frankly, I had in a like a really aggravating way or more.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I just felt, I don't know why.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess it makes sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it just felt so invasive when all the cameras were there.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I just had it back in my head.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know people are going to be judging my living space, whatever.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I kind of felt this is part of the process.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_01]: This is what it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I was just kind of upset that [SPEAKER_01]: For her, we were going to a storage unit and I was like, man, if I knew we could go to a storage unit, I would have just said that, you know.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was a long answer, but that was kind of just my, my mind.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess that was fine, but you didn't seem to [SPEAKER_00]: get mad about it, per se, because I know I think you see people who are like, oh, that was a lie.

[SPEAKER_00]: You would just more like, I mean, I guess this is what it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you just rolled along with it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think you stored it as one of the things where whenever you came up with the pattern of dishonesty, it was on the list, but you didn't like fully react.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm going to get?

[SPEAKER_01]: You have to keep on mind.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is really, you know, when you watch this show, [SPEAKER_01]: That's one kind of issue I have with this show is it's so drawn out that by the time that you watched the episode of the couples going to each other's place, it feels like they've been together for weeks, but in one hour, they've only been together for days.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so it was really early on and I was very much just, I mean, we were so worried about each other, you know, I mean, yeah, I was more [SPEAKER_01]: aggravated that I was like, man, I had a knowing we could go, I could just film.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to a storage unit.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would have just said that and not have cameras all in my police.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it was also, yeah, some things weren't heading up.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I wasn't overly aggravated because it was, I mean, we barely knew each other.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Talk to me about quarantine.

[SPEAKER_00]: How do the producers sit you down?

[SPEAKER_00]: How do they tell you guys?

[SPEAKER_00]: And how does eight weeks stretch out to four months?

[SPEAKER_00]: And where were you like, oh my god, why me?

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not putting words in your mouth.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what were you thinking?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lot of layers that I mean, honestly, it was just, you know, yeah, filming stopped.

[SPEAKER_01]: I remember we were supposed to actually film at [SPEAKER_01]: this bar slash or I shot that I went to all the time as kind of a way to show Christina.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is one of my hangouts bots and you know, whatever.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember that that day they were like, yeah, we're not going there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like businesses are closing.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're issuing, you know, a stay at home for everybody blah blah blah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it was just crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it just dealing with the pandemic felt kind of scary and [SPEAKER_01]: going through.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, filming on a reality TV show where you married a stranger is also a really crazy situation.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it was just like a crazy situation on top of a crazy situation.

[SPEAKER_01]: And there was just a lot of unknowns.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, it was just, you know, how long were we positive to him in four?

[SPEAKER_01]: How long could we not go anywhere?

[SPEAKER_01]: How long, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was just a lot of uncertainty.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uncertainly at that time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: When you guys lived together in the entire time you were pause filming, what did you...

Yes, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we lived together, we still lived in the same apartment space.

[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, for my job.

[SPEAKER_01]: So before the pandemic, [SPEAKER_01]: I would go into the office every day.

[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, I worked somewhere where we could just easily transition into remote like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: But just to kind of get away from everything, I would actually leave the apartment and go work at my apartment, at my place.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just the kind of...

Yeah, they go around.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was also like, I'm still paying right now at this place, so I'm going to get some of it out of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But just to kind of get away for a little bit, you know, like, I'm not sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you tell them that's what you were doing?

[SPEAKER_00]: Or did they think you were just going to work?

[SPEAKER_00]: Or did you tell them you were going to your apartment?

[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, the end of the work.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to my apartment.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I told them I was going to...

I honestly don't remember.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure I told everybody I was going to the apartment.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: The infamous fight, I mean I know they were multiple, but the ones where it was in the kitchen and she was frustrated, they she was carrying the conversations and you know things are going down when we see the camera man.

[SPEAKER_00]: We saw the camera man and she was talking to them and he can walk out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you understand her frustration?

[SPEAKER_00]: How he was played to us was that you were not even speaking to her unless she spoke to you and you were just responding.

[SPEAKER_00]: Were you checked out by then?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was telling him for a second.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like when I look back on it all, like I definitely, like I have no, I wish no ill will towards me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I was definitely shut down.

[SPEAKER_01]: I tried articulating that a number of times, but [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I was just overwhelmed by everything going on.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we weren't really like, we weren't by then.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, you add a bunch of cameras around you in a situation where you're already uncomfortable.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, like my, I mean, [SPEAKER_01]: The show definitely edited out a lot of my responses and questions.

[SPEAKER_01]: But there was no doubt that the conversation was not easy between us.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was just maybe I was a little checked out, but it was really more like I was just struggling and just kind of hoping that we get better.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, I totally get why Christina was frustrated.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, did you at any point ask to leave?

[SPEAKER_01]: They asked me to leave.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't really ask me to leave that.

[SPEAKER_01]: They asked me if I wanted to.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I did think about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I just honestly, I, to go [SPEAKER_01]: you go through a lot to you go through a lot to get matched and everything and I was like you know I'm not I'm gonna see it three to the end never going to I know a pandemic was was going to interject oh they asked you earlier no no no so they asked me when they asked me it was definitely it was towards it was right [SPEAKER_01]: When they asked me that, I remember this specifically, it was so filming in pause for eight weeks.

[SPEAKER_01]: And when we had gotten a new producer, and then she asked me if I still wanted to do it, like two weeks prior to us starting filming back on.

[SPEAKER_01]: So six weeks, six weeks.

[SPEAKER_01]: So the pandemic, if that math [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, makes sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh, yes, so they asked me around that time.

[SPEAKER_01]: And at that point, I was just like, no, I went through a lot to be here.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just going to see a third to the end.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I did have a good idea that I knew where we were going.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I was like, I'm not going to throw the towel in, you know, so I'm shocked.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I was like, no, thank you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're saying you were the back.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, it just didn't really look painful Henry.

[SPEAKER_00]: I will say like just as a viewer.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, and you seem uncomfortable in it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if they gave me an hour, I, you know, Godspeed.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but also I'm going to say real quick.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was it died.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, being on camera at times and and dealing with some of the questions that they're forcing you to answer Yeah, and stuff like that like that was uncomfortable and I'm not sitting here saying it was like all roses when the cameras were away But Christina and I really I mean it was very much Like a roommate situation, but like we watched a lot of things Yeah, I that's a world of Woody I will find I was like [SPEAKER_01]: Christina and I probably do more than all of y'all.

[SPEAKER_01]: Going to this was off camera, my favorite Vietnamese restaurant that I used to eat when it launched.

[SPEAKER_01]: She and I went to this Mexican place not far from our apartment a handful of times.

[SPEAKER_01]: What I remember, we went to this school that I bar around the corner.

[SPEAKER_01]: But, and like I said, we watched shows together and we watched different comedy, like sending up comedy shows and whatnot.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, when the cameras weren't there, it really wasn't.

[SPEAKER_01]: all that bad.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, when the cameras were there, it was, it was a bit uncomfortable.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying my decision to stay, honestly, really makes sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: Or is it right to say that?

[SPEAKER_01]: But it was just you put in a lot of work to get to that point.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess that there's a part of me that just thought, like, I'm not, you know, like, I'm not gonna throw it all away.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like we were almost at the end.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I'm just going to stick it through.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mama and raise no quitter.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not saying that makes sense or or that that's the right decision.

[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes I mean, you just go with what you've felt was right at that time and that's what you did.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, you know, the worst thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not pretty, but we have to talk about the allegations when Christina said that she got a text that said that you were having an affair with a guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: And how was, it's not how was that for you?

[SPEAKER_00]: That was nice.

[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't a pretty situation.

[SPEAKER_00]: But did you ever think there was a text message?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because you never saw it, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so honestly, no, I'm just gonna be straight up with my assessment of the whole thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that night, I was scheduled to, so we would obviously film individual sessions where production comes or sometimes an expert.

[SPEAKER_01]: And when you were filming an individual session, the other [SPEAKER_01]: person had had to leave.

[SPEAKER_01]: So she stopped by to tell me that she was going to dinner somewhere, whatever.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, she mentioned to me, and I could tell she was a little nervous, but she mentioned to me that she received attacks from a guy that told her that he and I was having an affair for a minute and that [SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to earn it now, whatever.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she didn't really, there wasn't much detail.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I mean, honestly, I was just like, that is selling a present, not true.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I'm not saying.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Christina regrets handling the situation that way.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but I think like my assessment of it was [SPEAKER_01]: I think she was frustrated that I was clearly like not into or not attracted to her.

[SPEAKER_01]: And once it's not so much, I wasn't physically attracted.

[SPEAKER_01]: Even if we had all these differences and she was a ten out of ten, I'm not saying I've been on dates with ten out of ten, but I've been on plenty of dates where the girl was intimidatingly attractive and then I show up and I'm like, [SPEAKER_01]: She's terrible, you know, for like whatever you know, whatever you know, either we have different viewpoints for, you know, or just differences, or they're boring, whatever.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I think she was just struggling with the fact that like there was no physical attraction in order to be there.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was just like a last stitch effort to try to, I don't know, maybe get me to admit that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know if that, if...

No.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that it's clearly not the right way to handle this situation, but I think she would just take him like an aggressive strategy.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, no, no.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the next day, I asked for to see the tax messages and I sort of send them to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, just I never got them.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it was just a desperate kind of effort.

[SPEAKER_00]: Inaction.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if anyone out there is listening and doesn't watch the show, I mean, I will say Christina was apologetic at the moment.

[SPEAKER_00]: She, you know, that was cleared.

[SPEAKER_00]: And on the flip side, you know, we always get on some of the guys who don't show affection and the hammer you was just not there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So she didn't get affection and she got nothing.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she got, you know, I want to get, I'm not, she did not handle it the right way.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got, she got nothing.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she was very apologetic.

[SPEAKER_01]: She was very upset about it about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, once again, we were only supposed to be living together eight weeks.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: It turned into sixteen weeks.

[SPEAKER_01]: This was right at the end.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was right at the end.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, decision day was, I mean, definitely less than a week and a half away at that point.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think she was just like, man, this guy's not giving me anything.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure, I mean, it was really difficult for her clearly as it would be for any girl who would probably question like, why is he unattracted to me?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was just like a bad, you know, attempt that at maybe trying to accuse, you know, find a reason why.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she was really apologetic.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, you know.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of regrets all the way around.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Looking back or thinking back to when you guys met with the experts on decision day, were you a little frustrated with how they [SPEAKER_00]: reacted to the text message saga because for me, again, things could have been edited out.

[SPEAKER_00]: They talked about like it was so casual, but at the time I thought, you know, it's a big deal to just come right out and say, oh, someone's gay and just even if they were, it would be in some way.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it was just, there was so casual about it and I just wondered from your point of view, maybe there's stuff we didn't see.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you feel any type of way?

[SPEAKER_01]: There was stuff in the identity.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you went, you definitely have to issue with the editing for them making it much better.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that conversation with the experts, I'm not even exaggerating.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna say it was two hours long, but it was definitely, it was absolutely an hour long.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that was like the bulk of the conversation.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, there was definitely stuff that just wasn't shown.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I do agree that probably poor judgment on their part to make it seem like they're reaction to it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I mean, I'm glad that they took it seriously.

[SPEAKER_00]: But while we're in touch with the experts, who was your favorite expert?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say, this is such a company answer.

[SPEAKER_01]: I liked them.

[SPEAKER_01]: People were so intimidated by Dr.

Pepper, but I think I, because she comes off as people say, I come off as dry.

[SPEAKER_01]: And when I watch this show, I can see why people say that.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that she and I just focus in more language.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I love Dr.

Pepper.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Esther Cow, super cool guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately for him, he's a titan's fan.

[SPEAKER_01]: But no, cool guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just seemed like really genuine.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if I had to pick, I'd probably say Dr.

Viviana.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I really just say that because I guess [SPEAKER_01]: Like she was just, I hung out with her, like she's coming to New Orleans a couple of times.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like with the audience stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll just give her the edge because like I hung out with her outside of the show a couple of times.

[SPEAKER_01]: But no, no, no.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I honestly, I really, I liked all of them.

[SPEAKER_01]: They just all brought a little something different to the table.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know that recap you guys do for decision day where you're talking about the entirety of your, oh Christine, that was fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: She had her ponds, her cons and her pros.

[SPEAKER_00]: How did it make you guys do that?

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you write a script and they fit it in or they tell you what to say or how does that work?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they, it's a woman's a boat, so they, so they kind of tell you to write something up or to list [SPEAKER_01]: some things that you really enjoy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, they kind of added it in a way for it to just flow better.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you know, they definitely ask you for like some things that you enjoy about your partner and, and you know, like some good memories you had, some pros, some cons.

[SPEAKER_01]: But they like, [SPEAKER_01]: They write it up in a way for, like how they say it on screen or how we say it is not necessarily how I run it down.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Are you sitting like just in your confessional?

[SPEAKER_00]: Is there a recording?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how do you read it out?

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's it.

[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm remembering correctly, they just give it to you on a piece of paper.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And just read it out.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if I'm remembering.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: At the reunion, you mentioned, I think that was the first time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize at the time there was the first time that you spoke about Christina's relationship before the wedding.

[SPEAKER_00]: Was that really the first time you had mentioned it to her?

[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't mention it the entire time that somebody had told you at the wedding.

[SPEAKER_00]: The entire time you were together.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and we talked about, so that like earlier when you I mentioned it, that's why I was confused.

[SPEAKER_01]: So at the wedding, she talked about it, and we talked about like the gist of the relationship, but I'm really not going to get too far into the details on it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's fair.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was just a lot of [SPEAKER_01]: of things that kind of came back to me, I'll say.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the Alibi honest, like, so we were all hanging out.

[SPEAKER_01]: and then she mentioned it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was during COVID.

[SPEAKER_01]: She mentioned it and then it kind of confirmed a lot of what I heard.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you regret mentioning it at the beginning?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't even an exaggeration.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think about it like all the time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I definitely regret.

[SPEAKER_01]: I regret how I brought it up.

[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously I regret.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like if I could go back, I would have talked about it in person with her a lot more and just, and yeah, I was just like, they just got you up going into the reunion.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I was just like, they're aggravated.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, no, it's a little regret for short.

[SPEAKER_00]: When you say they guess you up, what do you mean?

[SPEAKER_01]: They just, [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't up to the reunion.

[SPEAKER_01]: They, uh, specifically the executive, the like the EP.

[SPEAKER_01]: They get, so like they get a different EP to work on a reunion.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like the same EP of the show of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Why?

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, like they call you a bunch, you know, from everything about what you're going to wear to make sure that, you know, colors aren't clashing and they just ask you like if there's anything you want to talk about like constantly or anything you want to say anything you want to get off your chest and remember [SPEAKER_01]: They called me up and just said some things and yeah, they just dash it up.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll just sleep in at that.

[SPEAKER_00]: You felt, you felt that they were good.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like this.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just, yeah, I hate that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can we live when we learn?

[SPEAKER_01]: I hate that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything that you read about yourself during your time on the show that really bothered you?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, do you have another hour to talk or?

[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.

[SPEAKER_00]: Top two.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's safe to say, as I'm sure others have told you that, I mean, it's just a weird experience.

[SPEAKER_01]: No matter how much you mentally prepare, and then everyone gets different feedback, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: But now I had no idea what my mind was going to be.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, now, I mean, they just made it seem like I was a lot more awkward than I think I was.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I didn't appreciate the little awkward music playing at times.

[SPEAKER_01]: They totally cut out a lot of my responses.

[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't show any of my sense of humor.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like towards the end, they did a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that I'm really dry.

[SPEAKER_01]: But they just didn't show [SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, they didn't even show, I mean, like, when I watched it, I was like, Christina and I filmed so many things.

[SPEAKER_01]: I remember specifically, we were at this sandbar in Mexico where we had a great conversation.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they didn't show a second of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't even show her asking questions and it looked like I was silent after, you know, I mean, they were just, they were good conversations that we had that data and show.

[SPEAKER_01]: There was part of my personality that they didn't show, but yeah, but to answer your question, [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was just a lot of talk about me being awkward.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just think they made me seem like I was scared of my own shadow.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, listen, I'm not gonna lie.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like the more I talk to you guys, I mean, talking to my co-host the other day.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, being aware of this editing, because now I can pick up like the cutouts, the voiceovers, and all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: When I was watching you here, I'm like, why did this man sign up for this show?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because they gave us a lot of awkward silences.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, he doesn't want to talk.

[SPEAKER_00]: So why is he here?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sitting here saying, especially early on.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here saying at the conversation between Christina and I was like flowing, but it was certainly more.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they would, they would [SPEAKER_01]: Show her her ask a question and then me like eating and I was just like oh Okay, so they're not gonna show like anything I said and when I've really really really warned That that was the right that it was going what it was early on, but it was the brunch with her family the family was [SPEAKER_01]: was great.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was very pleasant.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was the conversation was very back and forth.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, I mean, it was funny her family was great her mom, her aunt, her grandma, et cetera.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I watched it, they did the same thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: They showed her family asking a question.

[SPEAKER_01]: And they showed me like taking a bite of food.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, oh, OK, so this is just how it's going to be.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we'll start wrapping things up.

[SPEAKER_00]: What was your favorite and worst moments of filming?

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, of the season, there's in general, I guess.

[SPEAKER_00]: It could be off-camera, too, but it was your favorite and your smallment.

[SPEAKER_01]: Favorite moments.

[SPEAKER_01]: So in general, I always [SPEAKER_01]: enjoyed filming like with the group.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's a little easier because I don't have to look as many people in the eyes or a character competition.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but filming with the group was which was really fun, especially when it was just the guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say with Christina specifically us, like I remember like we went to a driving range like [SPEAKER_01]: So hit the golf ball and yeah, that was a good time.

[SPEAKER_01]: And like in in Mexico at the honeymoon that there were some good times in Mexico, least favorites.

[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'll just say the reunion, you know, okay, that's fair.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you mentioned the group out in filming, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot more hanging out now on maps, but I think you've answered the question I was going to ask.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's better for you.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just easier for you to film.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you're in the group, I guess that works when you are in a marriage where it's not quite working.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like a reprieve, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: When you're with the group.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's also a struggle, too, because I mean, I'm sure other people have said this.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can't help but compare yourself to other couples.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, it, you know, don't get me wrong.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's uncomfortable in that sense, especially when winning a money, see my favorite couple ever.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's at that time, Bennett and Amelia.

[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, it is uncomfortable in that sense, but as far as just hanging out and stuff, yeah, it's a little easier because all the attention isn't on you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who do you hang out with in the group and in the math universe in general?

[SPEAKER_00]: Who are you cool with?

[SPEAKER_01]: From our season, I see what are the most, mostly because he goes to a lot of the the same events that like I go to.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I see what I love with you.

[SPEAKER_01]: What are you in a money?

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just shout them out one more time.

[SPEAKER_01]: What do you see?

[SPEAKER_01]: What they are?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're just great together.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I was like, do you just sit back and think you all have two kids?

[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, man, he's like, I'm just just so thankful.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, big shout out to them.

[SPEAKER_01]: What are you in a money or great?

[SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, with Bennett Bennett.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't really hang with Bennett solo, but he isn't theater.

[SPEAKER_01]: He isn't a big theater group or in a theater group here.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he writes and directs please and acts at him.

[SPEAKER_01]: And whenever he has a play, the girlfriend and I will, well, like always go check it out.

[SPEAKER_01]: So he and I will always catch up whenever we go watch his play.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, real quick, Ryan from the Houston season.

[SPEAKER_01]: talk to him, a decent bid and hang out whenever he comes.

[SPEAKER_01]: I used to value our friendship, but it seems like he hangs out or talks to everybody who's ever been on a reality television show.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you said, and I was not going to, I was about to say that, like friends are everybody.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what everybody, but you know what I talked to.

[SPEAKER_01]: I did that with a lot of people like Vincent and Ben.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I met Erica couple of times.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, there's a number of people.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Kristen from San Diego.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, from San Diego.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, from San Diego.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my last, my last guess.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wanted it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It would just depend on what, you know, I wouldn't.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would do reality TV.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I would really marry a stranger.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

[SPEAKER_01]: And like, if it was like, if I was single, obviously it was like her dating situation, like a match-up situation, I would do something like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Or yeah, reality TV in general, just just dependent on, you know, something like traders, you know, I could do that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Listen.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am on the hunt because I want someone from maps to be on trade.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they're not in the conversation.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've never had a map person on there.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I watched Frater's Bif...

What network is Trader?

[SPEAKER_00]: Peacock.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you just said, so I think part of the issue is, and I could be wrong on this, but traders get people from like the NBC network or the the sister network student.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, they get it from everybody.

[SPEAKER_01]: Robo, people don't die.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they get gravel people.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have the highest number of people, but we think like CT that's Viacom that's CBS that's MTA.

[SPEAKER_00]: They get from there and they get.

[SPEAKER_00]: people from the British parliament, and they get people from the end of the day.

[SPEAKER_01]: And they had the box.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was on there for a hot thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I'm, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought that there was some type of, um, um, the right that connecting them all, but uh, but I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now that Marida first sight is going to be talking to you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll incentivize them to get someone from there to help kind of promote it, you know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not going to bother to show what that, but you know, if your cell wanted to put a word in front of me, you know, I happily, you know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I think you'll be good at.

[SPEAKER_00]: Henry is the floor.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you've ever heard about it, but the floor.

[SPEAKER_00]: The floor?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's a game show kind of, but Roblo hosted and you pick something that you're really, really good at in your subject matter expert on.

[SPEAKER_00]: and then they come you and they quiz you on it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just look it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just fun for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's say mine would be reality TV.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you just put pictures up there and then you have to start naming it within seconds of getting it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I just think you'd be fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: You'd be like footballer, beer or something food.

[SPEAKER_00]: That would be your expert and then you'd be on the end.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they get people from reality shows.

[SPEAKER_00]: They had someone from the bachelor or something on there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think you'd be good in that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if you have an agent, tell them to try and get you on there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll get my ten percent from you if you make it up.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I have, I've not heard of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would just put it down.

[SPEAKER_01]: I will also say I would be totally game for the circle, which is on on Netflix.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's canceled for now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so sad.

[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't renewed and they haven't said anything and they've announced their new slate.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it is canceled and I should have said.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in defense of that, it honestly lasted longer than I thought it was going to last, but yeah, but yeah, if the circle was thrown around, that was something like I would've been game four, but yeah, I think it would just depend on on the scoop of it, you know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this was fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: Henry, but before I completely sign out, is there any last words that you want to share anything you want to say, anything you want to clear up before we wrap this up?

[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no.

[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, you know, as you've warned, I, you know, I actually can put, you know, two or three sentences together, you know, back to back to back to back.

[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, if you don't follow me on Instagram, I, you know, I don't really do a lot of, like, [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just need to kind of hang it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, code is Henry twenty.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some random food reviews and I just kind of be hanging out.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, but if you want to follow me, H, Rodriguez, I, V, or you can just search my name.

[SPEAKER_01]: Go follow me on there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'll tag him when he comes in the air in case you're looking for him.

[SPEAKER_00]: But thank you so much, Henry.

[SPEAKER_00]: This was so much fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you guys know where to find me.

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