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Hey, it's Neil Sevadra.
Speaker 2You're listening to kfi EM six forty the fore Purport on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
It's the four Purport all Things Food, Beverage and beyond with our Halloween panel today.
Ernie Alonso from Haunted OC to Dusty Sage, CEO of mice chat dot com, also does some fabulous tours we're going to talk about at the Disney Mansion in Los Phelis.
Julie Tremaine, journalist, extraordinary and cookbook author.
You write for sf Gate as well, right, or is that something you did before?
Speaker 3I do.
Speaker 4I'm the theme park editor for SFGate out of San Francisco, And everyone asked me if that means I live in San Francisco.
Speaker 1I do not.
Speaker 4I live much much closer to Disneyland.
I certainly couldn't do my job.
Yeah, I couldn't get to Disneyland several times a week.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I would imagine there's well, there are you know, theme parks up north, but not.
Speaker 3Like Hare not like not It's not like Universal.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's like all these things that we're we really are blessed.
I mean it is probably seven minutes from our place on the eastern side of Los Angeles to Universal.
Speaker 1So yeah, so it's like, you know, we go.
Speaker 2My wife and boy were there yesterday, and we're very lucky we've got passes to these places and be able to go here in southern California.
And that's something all you, all three of you have in common, is you guys like to go to all of these things.
Now is haunted season.
Have you guys been up and out to all of the different whether they're at the theme parks or one offs.
Speaker 5And not just here.
We've been all over the country already because Halloween meial now starts in August.
Oh boy, can you believe it's it's still one hundred degrees in humid outside and we're all putting on our Halloween colors and going to haunted houses and haunted theme parks all over.
Speaker 1That's so odd.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, I think that's probably the beginning of August was when I start my YouTube consumption changes to people making spooky props and I love, you know, the lighting techniques and all of these things that change every single year.
Have you seen anything, whether it's a theme or an effect, that just blew your mind?
This year's offerings.
Speaker 1What do you think, Julie.
Speaker 4I think that the appetite for really intense, immersive horror is bigger than it's ever been before.
And at Universal Orlando and at Universal Studios Hollywood, it's Halloween horror nights right now.
It's funny that you were saying, oh, we're starting Halloween early.
We've both started Halloween the last week.
Speaker 3Of August and it has been Halloween every day since then.
Speaker 4And I wouldn't have it any other way but that at both Universal Halloween horror nights.
Speaker 3They have this year Terrifier.
Speaker 4Yes, is hands down the scariest house I have ever seen on either current not just scary wise, not just jump scared and terror, but just the level of intensity disgusting.
There, the visceral, the smells, the sensations.
Speaker 2Okay, so you just hit a key that more and more I'm noticing that things are becoming more odorific.
Speaker 1Yes, and I did.
I never thought of it.
Speaker 2I mean, you think about that in certain you know that whether it was the original King Kong ride at Universal with the the banana smell when he's grown and things like that, but I'm hearing, no, the smell of really disgusting.
Speaker 5It's haring right right into it.
But you know, aside from the horror that everybody's into, I'm also seeing a lot more comedy in the haunted houses everywhere, and that's a nice release.
So some of the houses are really terrifying and others have a lot of comedy in them.
The Elvira House last night at the Haunted hay Ride was pretty funny.
And even Universal has now funny mazes.
They do ghostbusters and things like that.
Speaker 1I love that.
Speaker 4This year Five Nights at Freddy's is a really wonderful counterballance.
So you have Terrifier, which is the scariest you can possibly get.
But that's not for everyone.
Some people want that Five Nights at Freddy's.
It's you know, puppets.
It's Chuck e Cheese style puppets that maybe they're gonna kill you, but they'll sing you a song first.
Speaker 1Yeah, serve you with pizza.
Speaker 2I like that.
That's how I want to go out.
Little pizza and some songs.
Good night, Irene.
Speaker 4But I think my point is more just like the level of immersion is the designers of these mazes are saying, how can we make them an even more heightened experience for everyone?
Speaker 2So no more black walls.
Yeah, no, well everything but the mazes are they're rooms, the rope and they're Yeah, and it's different because I loved it all.
I remember the black walled mazes everywhere.
But really, now unless you have something tactile about that where the darkness is important to the you know kind of the emptiness you're feeling that you're walking through movies.
Speaker 5It's so true and really well done.
Speaker 4The new house that Notts this year has at eleven pm, they turn off all the lights and you walk through in the pitch.
Speaker 1Black with a flashy through in the pitch black.
Speaker 5I'm not walking through in the pitch black, but they give you a flashlight so you can illuminate the set yourself.
Speaker 1That's weird.
Speaker 5And you're in a haunted zoo with you know, killer animals and you have a flashlight.
Speaker 1And a gun.
Speaker 2Your wits okay, and I'm a chete.
No, just the flashlight, just the flashlight a real heavy brick.
No, just the flast light.
They need to make sure they put kneel through security.
Speaker 3Yeah, can we get a bag check on this day?
Speaker 1Plan climb coming out of I'm like, there's nothing in there.
Speaker 2Stop checking don't go any lower that the you talked about the Terrifier.
That is that art the clown?
Okay, so who's you know a clown?
Already you're starting off bad.
But the gore, I know there's some you know, there's also some other scatological type of things.
In certain it doesn't get that bad, does it.
You are really dancing around what you want us to say.
Nobody wants to say it.
Speaker 5But it's true that the most disgusting room in any haunted house I've ever been in is the bathroom scene in Terrifier.
Gross.
Speaker 4It smells real, real bad.
It smells as bad as you could possibly imagine smell.
Speaker 2Yeah, it looks as bad as I have five brothers and only one sister.
Speaker 1So it's worse than anything I can amend.
Speaker 3Worse, Wow, worse.
Speaker 1How do you think they get those odors?
Thanks?
Ernie Sedition?
Hey, how do you think they make that stink man?
I got a couple of bumps in the back room.
I got something for you.
Wow.
Speaker 2So I don't know that that's my speed.
But the whole you know, five night at Freddy's.
The concept if you will and if you don't know about this listening imagine you know, Chuck E Cheese going bonkers and the animatronics going bonkers and some you know, some backstories that are creepy.
But it does have a humor side to it because it's a bear.
Speaker 1It's true.
Speaker 5And one of the big gags throughout that maze is they have this killer cupcake that keeps jumping out at you from the walls.
This cute little cupcake, but people still scream because something's jumping out.
Speaker 3Yeah, let me tell you.
They made that cupcake.
Speaker 4That's one of the Halloween treats they have this year, and it is really delicious.
Speaker 1Oh, they have the killer cupcake.
Speaker 3From It won't murder you, except probably with diabetes.
Speaker 2But if you go though the sugars is a nice way, I'll take it.
It's the silent killer.
I'll take that.
Speaker 1Wow.
So they are getting and even the.
Speaker 2Effects, whether it's projection or digital, you know, animatronics, all these different things, they're really multi layered now.
Speaker 5At Haunted attractions all over.
Last night we were at Haunted hay Ride, which is a small, you know, lower budgets experience in the Hollywood Hills and Griffin's Park Park and it's it's wonderful.
But they are using projection and digital screens in their mazes, and so it shows you that the technology is spreading.
Speaker 1Oh I did.
Speaker 2I was the head of last year for my son's schools Haunted House that they do every year, and I had rear projection and all kinds of stuff all over the place and animatronics in that and that was for school.
That type of thing to me, there are so many unique ways to do it.
We'll come back, we'll talk some stories.
We'll also squeeze some fun maybe spooky stories out out of Dusty.
Speaker 1You tell a great story, sir.
Speaker 2I have been breathless during one of your tours listening and and so we'll get into some of those things and what's going on in southern California for Halloween.
We'll talk about food some more with Julie and some more haunted fun with the tours from Ernie as well.
So go know where.
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It is our starting of the Halloween season for us.
We have Ernie Alonso with Haunted OC, Dusty Sage, who's the CEO not only of mice chat dot com, which I highly recommend for Disney fans, but also gives tours at the Disney Mansion and others.
Julie Tremaine journalists, cookbook author, and her book that we're going to be talking about more today is Disney Villain's Devilishly Sious Cookbook.
As we talk about this season, let's see, we only have about two minutes in this segment, Dusty, is there a spooky story, haunted story you can tell us in that time?
Speaker 5Well, I'll tell you.
When I started working at the mansion, I had no idea that the house was haunted.
I was the disneyn Disney Mansion in the Hollywood Hills.
I just knew the stories, and I was giving history tours.
And one day the owner called me to say, you know, are you going to be sleeping in the house tonight?
And I said, yeah, if you don't mind, because I'm going to be here for a few days.
And he said, if I were you, I wouldn't sleep upstairs in the yellow room.
So of course I went upstairs and I slept in the Yellow room, and all night long, I kept feeling like I was going to have a heart attack.
And I had my two little dogs with me, two little shelties, and I woke up in the middle of the night just feeling this horrible pressure in my chest.
Speaker 1This is it.
Speaker 5I'm gonna call nine to one one.
I'm definitely having a heart attack.
And the minute I opened my eyes, the dogs started baying like they were wolves, and it's scared the Bejesus out of me, and I thought maybe somebody was breaking into the house.
I grabbed a bat and at the end of this whole scenario, police come.
They look at the house.
Nothing, and I suddenly realized dogs see things people don't.
And maybe it wasn't someone in the house with something in the house, and maybe the owner just telling me don't sleep in the yellow room did it.
But since that day, I've been afraid to sleep upstairs in the house because okay.
Speaker 1So I'm thinkuring you go up, you go up.
Speaker 2The stairs, they curl the shape that the round shape, the spiral shape that goes up.
Speaker 1Is is that the main it's.
Speaker 5The it's the Walt Disney's eldest daughter's bedroom.
Speaker 1Oh okay, so that's that's As you go up.
Speaker 5Off to the right somewhere yep, until it's the first of the two girls rooms, and it's kind of a room has some creepy old dolls and things in it.
Speaker 1Dolls.
Why is it always gotta be doll dolls?
Speaker 5But yeah, and to this day when I talk about it, Teamore just laughs because you know, no one in their.
Speaker 1Own I would ever sleep in that room because okay, but why did it can't find its way into another room?
Speaker 5That's right, The ghosts need to leave because I need to get a good night.
Speaker 1But that's what I'm.
Speaker 2Saying, Like, why a room?
Like, aren't you afraid of any room?
At that point?
Speaker 5I O, Well, I am definitely afraid of a lot of the rooms in the house at night when I'm alone and when I'm giving tours or there during the day.
It's just charming and amazing.
But there's no denying the shadows and the noises and popping sound.
Speaker 2That house is haunted, even the Disney House.
You can't get away with it being unhaunted.
Speaker 1You just can't.
Gosh, thanks Obama, that's a joke.
Speaker 5He made.
Speaker 1He made Disney's houses haunted.
I just know it.
Speaker 2To somebody, Yeah, whoever, great, probably Hannah Barbera putting some sort of curve on it.
Speaker 1That is so weird.
Not to mention the thought of Shelty's howling at the moon.
Sheltis uh terrifying, Little Shelty.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's never heard anybody call them terrifying before.
It's like the most terrifying Chihuahua you've ever seen.
All right, back with more on our guest panel today, Ernie Alonzo, Dusty Sage, and Julie Tremaine, as we talk all things Halloween moving into the season Disney Villains is the book Devilishly Delicious Cookbook.
Speaker 1We'll be talking more when we return.
Speaker 6You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2It's the Fork Report, all things creepy, dolls, food and beyond.
Speaker 1Thanks for hanging out today.
Speaker 2We're starting out the Halloween season, the spooky season with a great panel today Ernie Alonso from Haunted OC, Dusty Sage, who's the CEO of mice chat dot com, but also give tours both haunted and historical throughout the Southland, including the Disney Mansion.
Julie Tremaine, which is like, you have to be a writer with the name Julie Tremaine.
Speaker 4I actually share a name with the Big Bad in Cinderella.
Also, oh wow, the evil stepmother is Lady Tremaine.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh, ask me where.
Speaker 3My villain origin story started.
It was right there.
Speaker 2You're all done and done.
I accept this author, journalist and cookbook author.
The book that we've been talking about is her book, Disney Villains Devilishly Delicious Cookbook.
Now I got to imagine writing a cookbook.
One of the hardest things is editing for space, Like did you have a bunch of recipes and have to edit them down?
Speaker 4Yes, there were a lot more villains that I wanted to include in the book I had.
I had a recipe in mind for a cake that was themed after mystro from Oh Yes, where it was just a blue cake and you it was like a belly of the whale cake you were you cut it, yes, yes, yeah, and it opens its mouth and just just like the killer cupcake, no where you cut it, and then all the all this candy comes out, because like came out of the stomach of the whale.
Speaker 1Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3But I didn't get to do it.
Speaker 4So if anybody wants me to write a second Disney Villain's book, that'll be in it.
Speaker 2Well, I as we were talking, because I don't have a copy of it.
As we were talking, I went on Amazon and bought it, so I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah, I'm hoping it does well enough that you do a second one.
Speaker 1Why not.
Speaker 3It's it's very fun.
Speaker 4It's I never know what the next project is going to be, and they've taken me in some very interesting directions, usually haunted, creepy directions, which is fine by me.
Speaker 3I'm very happy about it.
Speaker 1Who is your Who's your favorite?
Speaker 2Let's say above the fold famous Disney villain, and then who's your favorite below the fold?
Speaker 4Well, I above the fold, I'm moleficent.
I feel like we are just soul sisters.
We're just I feel like we really get each other, the ability to turn into a pearl dragon.
Speaker 3But no, Lady Tremaine, I love her.
Speaker 4She's she and Anastasia and Drisella.
They don't show up in the parks very often at Halloween times.
Sometimes they do, which makes me really happy.
But every time I see them, I'm like, we have to take a family photo.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I used to do, you know, the Evil Queen and stuff like that.
I take pictures and post it and say enjoying the park with my wife today.
But she likes the villains too.
My wife is very she kind of like, you know, let's go to the beat of her own drum.
And she always seems to act like the bad person of the villain is the good one.
And she'll explain to you why this is why they they're misunderstood.
So, what's one of your favorite recipes in the book that ties to Maleficent Moleficent?
Speaker 4I made a I made a trifle which is one of those layered kind of put cake and different layers of custards, and it's called the Mistress of All Evil Trifle.
And the layers are black and purple and green, so it's very dark chocolate cake and then pistachio pudding and.
Speaker 3Then purple with green.
Speaker 1Wow.
And did you.
Speaker 2Create the recipes for the individual based on inspiration saying what would what would this tie into?
Or was it a visual queue or a flavor queue that made you go down that path?
Speaker 4Well, foods don't really figure into very many Disney movies.
It's tied to villains specifically, Like you don't see villains eating very often.
You see Hades eating his cup of worms, which is in the book actually, but there's otherwise there's not a lot like Mother Gothel makes hazelnuts soup for the Punzel Entangled.
Speaker 3But other than that, it was really tough.
So I just watched.
Speaker 4I watched the movies, and certain phrases would stick out to me.
Where in Sword in the Stone, when.
Speaker 3What's the name of the the woman?
You know you're not helping me, you're a Disney editor.
I can see her from Madam Madam mad Madam, Madam mim uh.
She they have that.
Speaker 4She and Merlin have that like wizard off and they turn each other into things, and she turns into like a sick dragon.
Speaker 3I made a chicken soup that would heal a sick dragon.
Speaker 1Or I love it.
Speaker 4At one point she Marilyn, I think opens the windows, and she says, I hate horrible wholesome sunshine.
So I made a horrible wholesome sunshine salad, which is a very citrus forward salad.
Speaker 1Oh I love it.
So yeah.
Speaker 2So the inspiration come from some of the text or some of the context of the.
Speaker 4Yeah, some of the things they say really spark spark food ideas.
Speaker 2I love that, and so and I love that you have like the deep cut villains too, because you know, there's nothing.
Back when Disney would have the Villain's Night, I always liked when there was a villain that I had to go, wait a second, wait, wa, wait, wait, I know that where that's from.
And even some of the newer ones that I was less familiar with or my son would go, oh, I know who that is.
But they really, especially in the early days, really had such a beautiful way of showing the villains the sharp angles, the dark colors and all those things that they're hard not to fall in love with.
Speaker 4Yeah, and the freedom that they can sort of do what they want.
They have more agency over their own actions than the heroes, because the heroes are sort of bound by I don't know the rules of right, and I'm saying the villains are doing the right thing.
I'm saying that they can follow their bliss and they there's something appealing in that.
Speaker 5Some of the early ones were really beautiful and elegant, you know, proper, Yeah that you know.
Speaker 4What the evil queen in the mirror like, she's she's a beautiful lady, she's got a real she's got riz.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I think actually she would have been the one I hit on in my day, you know, that would have been, hey, what's with all the anger.
Speaker 3You feel like you've got.
Speaker 2It's like I'm the guy that looks and sees someone smiling and say, hey, why don't you frown?
He's happy about but it's it is funny that you say, well, they're all bound by that morality.
Like in uh, The Superman seventy seven when the three Batties come down and they're looking like, oh, he cares about them, like the humans, that's his problem, Flick one of them.
Look what he does.
He freaks out about these humans.
And so yes, it is a problem caring.
I guess that is a problem in Dean.
All right, stick around.
It is our Halloween show.
As we talk with our panel today.
Throughout the entirety of this show, we have earningy Alonzo from Haunted OC and that's just haunted oc dot com.
Speaker 1Right, yep, haunted oc dot com.
Speaker 2If you want to go on a tour here in southern California and talk about great date night or if you're one of those more cerebral people like a great experience going to make you think about something or experiencing something a great way to do it.
Dusty Sage, CEO of mice chat dot com find all things Disney and beyond there including finding out that Dusty also does tours at the Disney Mansion here in Hollywood slash Los Felis.
And there are some interesting twists and turns in that, and it is fabulous I went last year.
And then of course Julie Tremaine, journalist and cookbook author.
The book is Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious Cookbook.
You can find that on Amazon or your better bookstores.
Speaker 6You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2Happy Saturday to you, Neil Savedra.
Here of course with the Fork Report, we're starting off the Halloween season with a panel today that we'll get back to in a minute.
Earnie Alonzo from Haunted OC.
Dusty sage ce of mice chat dot com all Things Disney and beyond.
He also does some fantastic tours we'll be talking about at the Disney Mansion in the Hollywood Hills slash Los Pheelis area where he raised his family.
And Julie Tremaine, a journalist and cookbook author.
Not only is she a journalist for SFGate dot com, which is great.
I've used the stories many times on the show.
That's so funny.
But she also has a cookbook, Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious Cookbook, that you can find on Amazon as well.
I got my copy today.
I went on there.
It's very simple that bezos.
Speaker 1He just.
Speaker 2Just going there and you click and ain't it easy.
Wouldn't want to be married to him.
But as far as getting a book, it's pretty simple.
So we'll get to that in a minute.
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Okay, Ernie, you're up, sir, A couple We just got a couple of minutes here.
Give us a rundown.
You've got something starting this week at Bowers Museum.
Speaker 7Yeah, we do an annual a tour for them.
It's I think it's our fifth year doing it now, and so that kicks off this Thursday night at seven pm.
Speaker 1Is it haunted there?
Speaker 7It is haunted most museums, you know, they've got so many artifacts and collections that carry attachments of spirit attachments they say.
And so this is cool because the reason we got involved with them is they reached out to us and asked if we would be interested in developing a tour for them.
And while we were doing that, we had to interview a lot of the staff there, and I would say about maybe twenty percent had had experiences in the museum where especially people like nightguards and you know, security people that are are there after hours that would experience phenomenon, and so our tour we're I think we're doing seven nights there Thursdays, and then we have a October thirtieth tours, our last one before Halloween.
And then of course we have Old Town Orange, which is our oldest location, and that's in if you're familiar with Orange County, in the little Plaza area, Oldtown Orange.
And then we have downtown Santa Ana.
Let's see, we have San Juan Capistrano, so we kind of go around the mission there in the Los Rios district, which is the one of the oldest neighborhoods in California.
Speaker 1Do you find the missions haunted?
Speaker 7Yeah, the Missions has a lot of ghost stories associated with it, so we cover all those stories and so sometimes during the summer we actually take guests into the mission itself as part of the tour.
Then we have Black Star Canyon, which is in the sant Anna Mountains up near Silverado Canyon.
Then the Catlogg House, which is at Heritage Museum of Orange County.
Speaker 1I'm curious about that one too.
Yeah, we do that when and Darcy does it.
Yeah, Darcy's been on the show.
Speaker 7And then and then of course the Disney Manchine is what we're gonna kind of talk about a lot more later on in the show.
And Dusty does an amazing job with that tour.
And we've done that for how long now, like.
Speaker 5Figures, Yeah, we started before the unmentionable pandemic.
Speaker 1Yeah, still doing it.
Yeah, it really.
I can't recommend it enough.
Speaker 2And Dusty, you do a phenomenal job of having respects for all aspects of its history and telling that fabulous stories.
I just I'm a sucker for good storytelling and it's a real treat.
So we'll come back talk more of that, and of course get back into with Julie getting into Disney Villain's Devilishly Delicious cookbook as well.
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