What is 4th trimester?

They say the 4th trimester because there's three trimesters in a pregnancy and everyone forgets about postpartum.

It is essentially the same length as a trimester after you've had the baby.

Immediately after birth.

The 4th trimester is the how the woman heals and her body.

My healing took a little longer.

I go to a pelvic floor therapist and midwife.

Everyone agrees that I'm taking a little bit longer to heal.

When you think about I'm healing, I'm also taking care of a toddler.

I didn't really give myself the time to rest, like actually lay down and recover.

I wasn't eating enough.

But now that I'm working out and starting to work out heavier and feel like I've got my nutrition pretty well down, just feel like things are going to start looking better for me do.

You like that idea for the birthday money?

Yeah, I just told Ellen.

I was like, I didn't even know he was thinking about doing that, but I don't like that idea.

That's good.

We're rolling, babe.

How you doing?

I'm.

Good.

How are you?

We have a three person guest podcast today we got Hazen asleep at the helm.

He's.

Not going to have a lot to say.

He's probably going to be out the whole time.

I would imagine so, yeah.

Because he just fell asleep.

He's milk drunk right now.

He is milk drunk for sure.

He's pretending to eat right now.

He's like.

Eating asleep.

So we're talking 4th trimester.

What is 4th trimester?

4th trimester.

It's kind of funny because trimester is supposed to be 3 but.

With fourth quadmaster.

The 4th trimester and they say the 4th trimester because there's three trimesters in a pregnancy and everyone forgets about postpartum, but it is essentially the same length as a trimester after you've had the baby.

So I think it's like 12 weeks.

Immediately after birth, Yeah.

Starts 4th trimester.

Yes.

So immediately after you have the baby starts the 4th trimester and then I think it's like 12 weeks.

And how many weeks are we post Hazen?

I have no idea.

He's like 3 1/2 months old, right?

Yeah, he's probably like 14 weeks now.

9 or 10 days.

He'll be four months, yeah.

OK.

So we're like 15 weeks probably.

Somewhere in there.

Post birth.

So we're recording this including your official 4th trimester basically.

How's that been going for you?

It's.

Been great.

Yeah, I've been.

People ask how it's like having two kids and like the thing that I say the most is 0 + 1 = 1.

One plus one equals like 10.

At least it seems that way without.

I don't feel that way.

I feel like, I mean, it might feel that way for you, but I feel like, I feel like it's 2.

I feel like I have two kids.

But I'll tell you what, when you only have one of them, whether I just have Rigel or I just have Hazen, it's so easy.

Like already it's so easy to just have one kid and I'm like, whoa, like how did I spend my time before I had a baby?

What did we do all the time?

Because now I just feel like I'm so I just have someone on me all the time, you know?

And you know that about having a baby, but you forget how consuming it is.

Well, I feel like when we had Rigel, since there was just one, if you ever needed to do anything, I could take Rigel.

If I ever need to do anything and you could take Rigel.

Whereas now if you ever need to do anything, I've got both.

Independent on the state of mind Rigel's in, that may not really be feasible.

I mean for the longest, for like probably two months after Hayes was born, he was just super clingy.

It was on the boob or crying.

There was no in between.

It was like until week 9.

Yeah, so like, you couldn't even take a shower?

I could not.

I don't.

You did.

I.

Did showers.

Yeah, I did take showers, but it was so hard.

Like I I could just hear him crying the whole time I'm in the shower.

So I'm just like rush showering.

So like imagine trying to shave your legs or wash your hair.

Like my hair is so long you have to wash your hair, But it was just like, this is not even possible.

Like if I just caught myself saying like Robert just pointed out the other day, I'm going to butcher this whole podcast because now everyone's going to be listening to my likes.

But Robert pointed out the other day how much I say like.

So I'm now catching myself saying all the time, Anyhill, what was the same?

Like probably you're just talking about how you couldn't really do anything.

Yeah.

Oh, if Robert wasn't outside or somewhere away from me with Hazen, it's just like, I couldn't even focus on what I was doing.

It would.

I just was like freaking out showering because it also like triggers something in a mom that is just I can't, I can't, I can't do this right now.

You just you have to go be with your baby.

It's just weird.

I.

Don't know.

Well, that only just recently shifted and I feel like I've been actually able to bond with Hazen a little bit more because he lets me hold him now, whereas before he wouldn't do that without crying so.

You guys, it was so hard because Robert could not even hold him.

So I was just exhausted.

I was so I've been so like touched out, like been so touched out.

And just also sad to not be able to see Robert with our tiny, tiny newborn just snuggling.

You did in in the hospital.

Yeah.

And then maybe.

Pretty much literally hospital day and the next day and then from then on for like 9 weeks straight he was crying if he wasn't on the boom.

Yeah full stop.

No, no in between.

And that was a while.

That was a that was a long stretch.

It was a long stretch, but I feel that we're just now coming out of that now and like I feel like I've.

Been good for for a few weeks now, like for like a month maybe?

Yeah, he let me hold him probably a good solid 20 minutes the other day in church with a bunch of other people.

He wasn't griping at all then.

And then he let me hold him last night while you were taking a shower for pretty good bit.

No fussing.

There's been a few things that I could do to get him to relax a little bit prior to that.

Like he does enjoy going outside.

So if we take him outside, he literally calms down for a little bit.

But now he's and we'll put him on the mat down the floor and he'll play around.

He's rolled over.

He rolled over pretty early on.

He did.

He rolled over the week he turned 2 months.

Yeah, however I do.

He's very strong, but I do think that's partly due to him just being tight.

And I had taken him to the chiropractor a week after he was born, then two weeks after he was born, and then every four weeks.

So I think it's been a total of four or five times.

And this last time was the first time that she actually got him to because he was just scream crying every time someone else would hold him.

We couldn't get him to relax enough to actually do any sort of releases or anything like that.

They obviously don't like crack babies, but did they do do releases?

They feel for tightness, they, you know, all that kind of stuff.

But this last one was the first time and she's like, yeah, he definitely is tight.

I know.

But he, he's been holding his head up since since the very beginning, which some people are like, oh, your baby's so strong.

But it's really, I think it's just a lot of tightness.

And then, yeah, he rolled over at right at two months, right the week he turned 2 months.

And I just was.

He does feel pretty strong though, like I'll pick.

Him up 'cause even with the releases and stuff, even though he he feels so much better since the last adjustment, but he is actually strong like he does have.

He holds his head up.

Yeah.

And he he was holding his head up early.

Early, early.

And he's not even just resting his on his elbows, he's like up on his hands.

He's doing push up.

Position and if I hold him up, I don't let him support all of his weight, but I'll kind of test him to see how much he's supporting and he's able to support pretty much all of his weight.

Yeah, I told Robert don't do that, it's not good for the baby's hips.

So I just.

Tested, just tested progressive overload, slight gradual you're.

Not supposed to do that until they're at least six months.

OK, well, he's going to be the athlete in the family Riger is going to be.

Only if you don't do things like that and Jack up his hips.

Rigel is going to be the farmer and Hazen's going to be the athlete.

We only say that because that's their tendencies.

Right now, Robert Rigel's convinced he's going to be a farmer, so.

He must.

He must be a fireman too, though.

A.

A farmer.

Fireman.

Astronaut, farmer, fireman, astronaut, a little bit of everything.

I am curious to see what Hazen's interests are.

Me too.

How different they'll be from Rigel?

So as far as his, we'll, we'll talk Hazen for a bit.

As far as his nutrition, pretty much, yeah, nothing new to talk about there.

He was not eating, talk about that.

So he was always crying as we mentioned.

But we kind of determined that that may have been because he was so hungry in the beginning, because your milk supply from a volume standpoint was totally fine from the get go.

But we think that you may not have had much nutrition in there because you probably weren't eating enough early on.

Yeah, so I'll talk about that for a second.

Hayson was born and everything was fine and then he just was nursing non-stop and I felt like something was not right.

And what?

Was his weight when he was born.

9 lbs seven ounces.

And he wasn't really gaining weight rapidly per SE, in the very beginning.

Yeah, So we went and we took him in and they weighed him.

Yeah, 'cause I told him, I said he he's just crying all the time unless he's latched.

So I feel like he's not getting enough or something's, you know, something's going on, like his stomach's upset.

I don't know.

And we essentially came down to the doctor had asked me, So what is your nutrition like?

And I just was like, I really haven't even.

Were you tracking at that point?

No.

And I was so so.

Obviously.

A little bit of back story too, is Robert doesn't take time off of work.

So I really didn't four days postpartum, Robert went back to work and you made me sound like a no, I'm just, this is just the fact I'm not.

We've already, you know, we know we, we, we got things figured out.

But then my my dad did come for a week and that was so helpful but.

That's when we recorded the Birth Story podcast.

But I was not eating enough.

I wasn't eating enough.

The only meals I feel like I really ate is when my dad cooked me food and which was wonderful to have him there to cook me food.

But I was so busy keeping up with both of them and this one was crying non-stop and Rigel's 3 1/2.

And so he has lots of energy and it was just a lot trying to keep up the house, trying to keep up with the kids, trying to heal my own body, just all of the things.

It just felt like a lot and I neglected to eat well, which is weird because Robert and I are very nutrition based.

And you were eating all the good stuff, you just weren't eating enough of it.

Right, yes.

And so the doctor had asked me what's your nutrition like?

And I said I haven't even paid attention to it.

And he said OK, the next two weeks I want you to eat all of the things, everything you can eat.

And The thing is I was not hungry.

And then he had me increasing my calories and I I wasn't full.

I wasn't full or hungry.

I just ate because I knew I had to eat.

So it was just, I was just eating.

So it's just a very weird thing.

Like a lot of people are ravenous postpartum because they're breastfeeding and they're just so hungry.

But I feel like I just, I don't know.

I just feel like I it was just, it wasn't my.

Sympathetic state.

I mean, you were not interested in digesting, so honestly probably whatever you were eating wasn't really getting fully assimilated, so you just chronically stressed.

Yeah, and, and I had birth to heal from and you know, you don't sleep very well when you have a newborn and you all just all the things mixed together.

So he wasn't really gaining weight.

And that was three weeks after he was born that we actually took him in.

And then I got a scale for him and we weighed him every day and as soon as I increased my calories, he started gaining weight like crazy.

And the next appointment he went to, which was like 5 weeks later, he had gotten, he had gained.

How do you say that?

He had grown 3 inches long, which is crazy and he's very long.

I don't even know he was 21 3/4.

What does he point out?

Do you have any idea?

I don't know, I I.

Don't know.

Yeah, but he's chunking up for sure.

He's.

He's a long and he's.

Chunky.

And it's just, it's good.

It feels really good.

I had a really hard time after I left that appointment.

I just was bawling because I thought this is all my fault.

Like he's been screaming, 'cause he's hungry.

And The thing is, is I had plenty of milk.

I could get milk out at any point.

I like he, he was getting milk even when I would weigh him before and after a feeding, he was getting milk.

It just wasn't fatty enough.

Like it didn't have as much fat in it.

So I, I just didn't have like really any extra to spare.

So it was just really watery milk.

So yeah, that was a stinker in the beginning.

But then he's still, I mean he was gaining and doing fine, but then he still had weeks and weeks and weeks of crying and we couldn't figure it out.

Like his stomach never seemed like it was super upset.

He was never upset when we laid him on his stomach.

He, I don't know, he just had, it was just, it was a, it was hard and we never figured it out.

He just grew out of it at about 8 weeks and then by week 9 he was totally solid, normal baby.

Yeah, I feel like he's cool as a cucumber more often than not now.

Yeah, totally chill.

What about you?

As far as you know your, you know, 4th trimester goes, your intake's obviously higher now for the milk supply situation.

Are you tracking right now?

No, I I've been like tracking.

You've been pretty much doing the same thing every day.

So you have coffee with a brick every morning?

Yeah.

I eat, I do like a really fatty coffee.

So I like a really fatty coffee and a full brick.

And then a little bit later I've been making these like bagels with cottage cheese and almond flour and baking powder and you bake it and then you put cream cheese on it.

It was so good.

And so I've been eating those and then usually I'll have like a yogurt with berries or something in it.

And then I have my meal with you in the evening, which is most of the time it's chicken.

I have kind of a weird thing with red meat right now.

And eggs.

You eat a lot of chicken.

The nutrient dense things that you need.

I have a really hard time getting in but I'm I'm trying.

So last night I just had eggs and it was delish.

I cooked those by the way.

Yeah, Robert did.

But we fattened up your chicken too.

Like we cooked that with a bunch of butter and then we put cheese on there.

And you typically put one of the Primal Kitchen, you know, avocado oil sauces on there.

So you're getting.

And I usually have it with rice.

Cauliflower too, yeah.

So that's good, your intake's good, your training.

Let's talk about your training.

Guys, training's rough.

Training's rough.

It's been a yeah.

This is because, like again, when we had Rigel, what did we do with Rigel for your training?

In the beginning I think he was just with me, but he did really well, like sitting like in a car seat or laying down or whatever.

He was so chill.

Now Hazen would probably do that.

The only problem is don't.

Do in the car seat.

Well, he doesn't.

He would lay down, but like, you couldn't even do that so much now because if you were to sit Hazen down and train, Rigel would be all up on it.

And Rigel is a handful and 1/2 right now.

We'll talk about Ryan in a second.

Well.

We've decided to use the word free spirited or passionate.

Yeah.

He's very passionate.

Before we talk about Ryan, let's talk more about you.

So your training has been a little wonky as of late.

You started training with Bronte here pretty consistently about a month ago, I feel.

Like it was 5 or 6 weeks ago.

So pretty much when he was two months old.

You started training like I could breathe again.

Yeah.

So at two months with Hazen you started training like what, consistently 3 days it seems at least.

Three days a week, my friend Bronte and I.

Who also just had a baby.

Yeah, she had a baby.

Her baby's ten months old now.

And so we just have Hazen, her baby and Rigel all in the gym.

Yeah, it's total chaos.

Yeah.

And we're both breastfeeding, so like we're feeding on and off and I've got Hazen in the carrier.

And so like there's movements I can't do like bent over and or we're just holding our babies in the arm and then we switch arms and it's, it is, it's total chaos and we both know it, but it's.

Better than a.

While to come in and both of us have actually said that we feel like we're seeing changes even with the little bit that we're doing, we're still seeing changes and we're still doing more than we were doing before and that's really all that mattered and.

I'll come in to the gym and yeah, we'll be baby and arm breastfeeding, doing tricep extensions with the other arm, and Rigel will have all the gym in disarray.

He'll have chalk drawn all over the floor.

He'll have toys strewing about.

I let him play with a chalk.

It's not like he's just like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's all cleanable, but I can never find my wrist wraps or straps or knee sleeves anymore 'cause he's moved them all.

The pins for the equipment are everywhere.

Yeah, but we have a, we have a part time playground, part time gym, tandem action going on, but it's working better than nothing.

Yeah, and then after with when I had Rigel, when he got a little bit old enough where I felt comfortable, Ellen watched him here at the gym, so they would be right there while I'm working out.

She would just keep him happy while I worked out.

So that worked out so well.

But now if there's two of them and it's just so much harder.

Yeah.

However, today is day one for my new training program with Greg and day one for your new training split.

So I spent yesterday cleaning out the garage.

We got that all cleaned up and we've got the squat rack in there.

We're going to move two of our benches into the garage.

You've got your adjustable dumbbells, plates, barbell, all that good stuff.

And you're going to keep the three days a week with Bronte doing accessory stuff.

And then you're going to do today you did squats, right?

So squats, bench, deadlift, overhead press.

One primary compound movement each morning, then repeat the four and we'll do that because we'll both wake up at, I wake up at 4.

You're going to start waking up at 4:00 and while I'm doing computer work in the morning having coffee, you're going to go out there and do your primary compound movement.

That way you're checking on the boxes there.

And that in addition to the exception work you're doing with Bronte, I feel like that'll be a pretty good setup.

I'm excited about it.

Me too, today was the first day I used a barbell since having had Hazen.

How'd that feel?

Crazy you did.

How many sets did you did five sets of?

I did five sets and I worked up but the Max I got to was one

like a 5 reps at 1:35.

How did that feel?

It felt good.

I actually felt really good.

And I felt like once I got to 1:35, I was like, yeah, I'd have to just do more sets here.

I.

Know so you probably wouldn't go 185 next week or anything.

I will probably bump it up but maybe like 5 lbs.

Yeah, but it just.

Range of motion was good, you went all the way down and everything felt.

Fine, Yep, Yep.

Everything felt fine.

All the pelvic floor, everything felt great, like I, I was just it.

It felt so good.

It felt really good.

I've been needing a time where I don't have a child with me and that the nice thing is that Robert's still home, so he can have the monitor high.

He can have the monitor.

Well, he's awake.

Stick him in the camera.

How high does he?

Oh, I guess he'd go blow my face.

What do you say?

Oh, he's in there.

Look at that little smudge.

Do you have anything to say no?

Anything.

Words of wisdom.

Oh, Burp.

I like it.

Burp.

Nice.

How you doing, Hazen?

He's a cutie.

Look at him.

Chunky cheeks.

I know.

Yeah, he's definitely, definitely getting the more chunky, chunky.

Yeah, we got to weigh him.

I'm curious.

You know me too.

You smiling right now?

Are you smiling right now?

He is the king of the lip.

That's like the lip.

The lower lip when he's getting ready to cry, he puts that thing out hardcore.

So yeah, it's it's the cutest.

It's like a delayed crime, like he'll just, he'll be smiling and then all of a sudden he'll look at you and it like his eyes will squint a little bit and then Oh no, it's coming.

And then he'll go.

Yeah, the whole image is way out there.

And then the cries come.

We're talking about you, buddy.

You're pretty cute.

He's got a really cool mullet going on.

He lost like all of his hair except for the very back tiny bit and it's hilarious.

Yeah, he's so.

Cute, that big yawn, but it is it is good.

I feel like Rigel.

Let's talk about Rigel as it pertains to to I don't feel like Rigel is jealous at all.

I feel like Rigel is he's not jealous.

And let's just way towards Hazen at all.

He definitely loves Hazen.

He gives Hazen a kiss every night, doesn't give me a kiss every night, but he loves Hazen a lot and he like wants to share his toys with him.

He wants to play with him.

If I'm doing something, he's like, oh, I'll watch Jason for you and he'll just like put little toys in his face.

And it's.

Really cute, but I feel like he, since he's not getting as much directed attention, he does things to get attention, not maliciously towards Hazen, but just things to get attention because he knows we can't ignore it, but it's often not the best things that he's doing to get attention.

So it's been a little tricky in that regard because we're trying to figure out how we would go about disciplining him.

And that's that's hard when he's 3 because you can't really reason with a three-year old.

And we've had to test out a few things and figure out what works and what sticks with them.

Yeah, 'cause every kid is different too.

Yeah.

You know, what works for one person is not going to work for the next person.

So it's, it's been, but I feel like, I feel like Rigel and I have gotten kind of a good little groove down here recently.

For the most part.

I just feel like I have a little more control.

Yeah, and we're trying to be the best.

We, I mean, Dennis gifted us that book which you've have you finished it yet?

I have like 20 pages left.

What's it called?

How to really love your child?

Child is it child?

How to really love your child?

I think.

Yeah, or how to truly love your child.

Or yeah, some.

But it's pretty good.

It's an older book.

Yeah, it's an older book.

I've started it but I haven't finished it yet.

You're almost done with it.

Really good.

I really like it.

That will be insightful and we're just keeping him busy.

I think that's key too, like giving him things.

That's when we got chickens.

That was a large part of the reason we got chickens was so that we can have daily chores and responsibilities that he would be excited about.

Then of course, we lost all of our chickens, so we're still needing that solution.

But we go to a homeschool Co-op every Monday, and so that keeps him busy with other kids.

And then we go to the library for story time every Wednesday.

And then we just do little things here and there all around meeting up with other friends who have babies and all the things.

So coming here to work out everyday.

Yeah.

He's.

Getting a lot of exposure to different things.

And he reads so much.

He loves reading.

We don't have ATV, we don't have a.

Pictures and listening to us read we should.

Yeah, well, we're reading to him, but I feel like he just soaks that up and he'll get on a kick where it's like one book he wants to just be on repeat.

But he's got so many books.

He carries him around with him everywhere he goes and he's all about his reading so.

We get new library books every Wednesday.

That's good.

We need to find, I've talked about getting him in the jiu jitsu.

We need to do that at some point.

I know we tried to take him to a class and that did not work out very well.

He was very intimidated.

It was it was pretty loud and crowded and I don't know.

Roger is the kind where his first exposure something, he just soaks it all in and then he has all these opinions of it after he's back in his comfort zone.

And then if we take him back there a second time, he'll know if he wants to partake or not.

We took Clancy, had that shindig Winnie roast thing, tons of kids there, and he was super hesitant to jump in on things.

But then soon as he got outside his comfort zone, he was right in the middle of a trampoline with everybody going down the slide doing everything that everybody else was doing.

It just takes him a little bit to decide in his mind if he even wants to do it or not.

Yeah, which is good.

Yeah, he definitely is a watcher.

Watches, watches, watches, watches, watches.

I might try it.

But I was like that too.

I was like that too.

I would always just like analyze everything, pick it apart, understand how it works, what the expectation was.

And then if I wanted to commit to it, then I'm all in, you know?

He's very stuck to my side too.

He he wants to be with me all the time.

All the time.

Even when we were there, he just was like, mom, come with me, come, come, come on.

And I'm like, I want to talk to people.

He caught a big fish this weekend.

Yes he did.

He caught his first fish.

Big old catfish.

Fried that up with scrambled eggs.

Pretty tasty.

Think he enjoyed that.

I.

Think so, yeah.

Yeah, what is up with him not saying goodnight to me though?

I don't know.

It's like this weird phase that we're right now where he and he'll do things.

I don't know if you noticed this, but he'll do things to intentionally not say goodnight.

Like he said, goodnight Diesel last night twice.

I know right before he went to bed so that we can get on to him for not saying goodnight to me, but then we just didn't want to.

Specifically you.

But why I?

Don't know.

It's like.

But then I got on to him.

I was like, Rigel, say goodnight to your dad.

And he just kind of like, gave me that, like, little smile.

And I'm like, what?

What?

It's not funny, you know?

He thinks it's funny and he's doing it for attention, but it's not funny.

I mean, he tells me these things and it's like, man, that kind of cuts me deep.

Doesn't want to give me a night, night kiss, doesn't want to say goodnight.

Just being mean.

Just being mean.

So I got to figure that out.

All right, So anything else on the 4th trimester you want to cover?

Yeah, I think we'll just talk about like the healing and the recovery and all that kind of stuff too, 'cause that's a lot of what the 4th trimester is.

The 4th trimester is the how the woman heals and her body and all that.

And yeah, mine was a little rough this time.

I'd say my C-section was way easier than this one.

Do you feel like time frame wise where you're at as to where would be reasonable to expect to be at is good or do you feel like it was drawn out?

I do feel like my healing took a little longer and I go to a pelvic floor therapist and my midwife obviously, and everyone agrees that I'm taking a little bit longer to heal.

But also when you think, when you think about I'm healing, I'm also taking care of a toddler.

I didn't really give myself the time to rest, like actually lay down and recover that like you're supposed to do.

I was up, I was doing all the things, cooking Rigel meals and cleaning and just doing stuff really early and then I wasn't eating enough.

So he wasn't getting it at what he needed.

I wasn't getting what I needed to be able to recover.

So I feel like it has been delayed, but there's understandable reasons why.

And I also had a 9 LB seven ounce baby, so that's a lot of and I pushed for.

9 lbs seven ounces.

9 lbs seven ounces.

Hefty boy.

Rigel was 814.

Hazen's 97.

But yeah, I mean, he's, he's a big baby to come out of me.

And yeah, so I just feel like there's just a lot of, and I pushed, I put, I had that cervical lip, so I pushed against that for a long time.

So there was just a lot of a lot of additional swelling and things like that.

I think now that you're training compound movements, eating more, I think you're, I think from now until six months from now, your recovery is going to like hockey, stick upward.

I think so too 'cause I already feel pretty good, but now that I'm working out and starting to work out heavier and feel like I've got my nutrition pretty well down, I just feel like things are going to start looking better for me.

Which is good because I felt really terrible about myself.

I have.

I lost the same.

I gained the same amount of weight with both kids.

I lost the same amount of weight after both kids.

I'm about 15 lbs heavier than I was pre pregnancy, but I started this pregnancy 10 lbs heavier than I did Rigel.

So I'm technically I'm 25 lbs heavier than I was when I got pregnant with Rigel and which is fine.

I'm, I have a good £10 range that I stay at when I'm not having babies.

So I was just on the heavier end of that when I got pregnant with Hazen.

And that was a lot due to, I was making sure I was eating plenty, I was making sure that I was healthy to have a baby, all that kind of stuff.

So I just have a little bit extra that I don't like on myself.

And that's, it's just part of having a baby.

And I just have to remind myself, well, I had a baby three months ago.

Stop freaking out, you know.

It was definitely a push on social and especially the like, get back to your pre pregnancy weight prematurely.

And I know you talked about not, you know, leaning into that dogma at all, which is good.

But I mean, you've got high goals for yourself and standards and all that good stuff.

So it'll all come in in due time.

But whether or not we decide to have a third will also, you know, impact.

Things too.

So we'll see on that one.

We don't know yet.

Everybody that I talked to that has multiple kids tells us to keep having more kids, so.

The thing is it's it's very interesting because our life is very different than a lot of people.

Like Robert travels a lot.

So I would be left with the animals and kids a lot, which is fine.

But then we also want to travel together as a family domestically and internationally.

And, you know, you start to think, you start to think about things and you're like, that's a lot.

Taken 3, We're outnumbered.

I feel like before I start prepping 27 like we need to have a travel trailer.

That way we can all just mount up and go as a cohesive unit.

That would make the most.

That way I'm not asking a lot of you while I'm out of the house.

We're able to make memories together as a family.

That'd be great experiences for Rigel and that, I mean, that would pay for itself pretty quickly, I think.

We're not staying in Airbnbs, we're not staying in hotels, we're not going out to eat.

We're just like in our own unit travel trailer, making memories together.

Yeah, that'd be good.

Yeah.

That'd be good.

What about your You just recently got off social for a while, wanna talk about that?

Yeah, I've been off social for a little over a month now and I just felt like Hazen cried so much.

I spent so much time just nervous at the table.

I spent so much time just nursing him and sitting there.

It became easy to just pull my phone out anytime.

I'm going to feed him real quick, but it became easy to just pull my phone out and get sucked into my phone.

And I have Rigel there, still don't don't mind my.

But you get your concealed carry license the other day, and I joke 'cause you get your concealed carry license, but you've also got your concealed carry outfits for easy access feeding.

They're pretty legit.

I didn't know they made stuff like that.

Like you would never know.

However, what?

What mom brain hardcore What?

Just getting off social.

Oh yeah.

So I, I, you know, I still have Rigel and stuff and, and I noticed that I, even though he was playing fine on his own, I was not involving myself in the conversations I needed to be having with him and making him feel loved and paid attention to and things like that.

And I just said, I'm not doing what I need to do.

And so I'm just going to go off social media and really focus on putting my phone down.

And so I've just been doing that and it's been great.

And I've had so many fun conversations with Rigel.

He's such a cool kid.

I knew that before, but it was so easy to just do our own things.

And I've picked up books like I started reading which putting down a phone, you can kind of get irritated, like if you're in the middle of something or messaging someone or whatever.

And your kids like mom, hey, mom, mom, mom, you know, it's like, what, what do you need?

But when you're reading a book, you can literally set it down at any moment and then just get right back into it.

So it's not frustrating.

So I find myself like I'm not as irritable and it's just it's been great.

It's been great for all three of us, four of us, you know, for me to be off of my phone.

And I now notice how much other people spent on time on their phone.

And it's weird because so many people, Oh, did you see that real?

I did.

Oh, did you see that?

Oh, I sent you A and I'm like, I haven't even looked.

Sorry.

Yeah, the whole consumption train.

I try to create more than I consume, but it's, I mean, some people just get locked in this endless doom scroll.

And I feel like anything like there'll be times where I'm working like the newsletter at the house on the weekend and I don't even like that.

Like I try to get all my phone calls and stuff done, messages sent, emails done before I come home because I don't like to be on any of my devices at the house.

But I don't like Rigel to see me on anything either, you know, like I want him to just be the focus, like getting latched, huh?

He's.

Just he's tired.

He has not taken a good nap today.

What's his nap schedule right now?

He doesn't have one.

Yeah, it's all over the board.

Rigel's still taking a consistent nap at some point in the afternoon.

Not it's gotten shorter though over time.

It was like 2-3 hours.

Yeah, it was like two or three hours and now it's like hazy boy and now it's like about an hour.

So I don't know it just it's it's actually been not too bad He's and he's so easy when it's just him.

He and I like just hanging out while Hazen's napping.

Like I'm getting all the things done.

We're playing play DoH together.

I can read him books by himself.

Like there's so much I can do with him and it's crazy how much where did you matter?

It's crazy how much it feels so simple now, buddy boy.

I do think that's it.

I think he's just sleepy and you got Mom's hair on your mouth.

Yeah, well, we can.

We can call it.

If you want to call it, you can feed him.

Well, let me just try this side.

I mean, I don't really have a whole a whole lot more to say, but so cute.

He is pretty perfect.

I just can't.

I just.

He's just so cute.

Yeah, I know you.

Bye.

Rigel's definitely a lot more self entertained.

Yeah, for sure.

He can do his own thing, play with his own toys, look through his own books and just be totally self-sufficient.

He'll sit.

There forever and look through books and my sister got him like a kinetic sand thing.

There we go.

My sister got him like a kinetic sand thing.

And he will play with that forever.

And I've been making play dough and letting him play with that.

And there's just certain things that he will play with forever.

And he loves to be outside too, which is nice.

It was a little hard there for a while 'cause we had Hazen in early July, so.

It.

Was way too hot for him.

Before long, it's going to be too cold.

Well, no, because I can bundle him up with it being too hot.

Like you can't cool them down, you can't put less skin on them.

I don't think he's going to let me continue this, but.

But with the winter, you can always bundle him up, you know.

So anyhow, yeah, we'll probably call it.

Well, here, hand him to me real quick.

I just want to give him a good squeeze.

We'll call it some podcasts.

Oh, little boy.

Hey, he's going to help you now for a minute, dude.

You can look at me now or not.

You want to look at him.

Hi.

You look cute bad I'm.

Getting a smile.

Yeah, he has been giggling.

He's pretty good at giggling.

He is a giggling.

Yeah, he's pretty cute.

You're so cute.

I can handle it like I when both of the boys are sleeping, a lot of times I will wait for Rigel to take a nap until Hazen's ready for an afternoon nap and then I get them down at the same time, which is just beautiful moment for me.

But I would just take pictures of both of them and send them to Robert and just like I want 5000 of these and really I don't and could not handle that many but.

Quite 5000.

But they're, they're just both so precious.

I just can't.

I just just squeeze them.

It's the best thing ever.

Well, babe, what do you want to point people to for you?

We're going to be putting out some new content on Liv Savage's Instagram.

I'm excited about all the stuff we got in the pipeline there.

So Liv Savage for the IG there, what about yours?

I actually took my Lady Savage down again.

You just going to rock Liv Savage?

Yeah, I think I'm going to be done with Lady Savage.

It's it's hard because I feel like my whole life is being a mom, taking care of all the things home.

And yes, I'm still interested in nutrition.

Yes, I'm still interested in in fitness, but I just don't really feel like I need or want to share that right now.

I and I'm sure it could be helpful for other people who are postpartum or having multiple kids or whatever, but it's just not where my heart is right now.

And there's so many other people doing that online that I don't feel like me not doing it is going to be change the whole world, you know, So I'm just like, I'm happy.

I'm happy just doing my normal life and then documenting that.

So actually today was our first post on Liv Savage in quite some time.

So I think I'm going to start trying to take advantage of that morning time where the kids are both asleep.

So I'll wake up at 4:00, do my workout, then I'll have a little bit of time where the kids are still asleep and I can do a post or message people back or whatever.

And and then, yeah, and then we can, I can just keep it up that way.

But I think I might even be batch uploading, you know, stories and things like that.

Because again, I don't want to be taking a picture of something and having to type something out for a story while I'm with Rigel.

I just want to be able to take pictures and then post it later whenever it makes sense.

So.

Yeah, it'd be good though.

I'm excited.

I mean the parenting stuff, the homesteading stuff, the lifestyle stuff.

We can't get people excited.

What?

We're getting pigs, we're getting pigs, we're getting pigs in like a few weeks.

Yeah.

For those that do not recall, when Crystal and I first started dating, that was her aspirations in life was to have babies and pigs.

So we've got the babies checked.

We're about to have the pigs checked.

So all my, all my responsibilities and commitments as a husband are about to be done, you know?

Yeah.

Robert can just check out.

Now, yeah.

So we're gonna get pigs next weekend or this weekend I'm going to try and get the Bush hog fixed.

I got some parts ordered.

I'm going to clear a fence line so that I can start driving T posts and digging fence fence post holes and we'll get some pigs.

It's going to be good it.

Will be good I I actually have no access to the team savage love savage Facebook anymore.

So once I get that login back, going back, when I get that login again, I will start posting on there as well.

The Facebook.

So we'll have the Liv Savage Facebook is what I'd like it to be.

I think it's Team Savage right now.

So we'll do Liv Savage Facebook and Liv Savage on Instagram.

That's where.

You can find our family.

Utemus.

All right, babe, I love you now.

That he's happy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just needed a daddy, huh?

He's like, I'm going to show these people wrong and show them how much I like my dad and how I never did that for 9 weeks straight.

Yeah.

All right, babe.

Well, I love you.

It's fun being a parent with you, raising kiddos with you, doing life with you.

Love you.

Love you too.

Love you too.

Smudge.

You get important thoughts.

Let me take the mic.

Maybe not.

All right, till next time.

That's hot for now.