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Rick Wilson

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Speaker 1

Joe Trippi and Stu Stevens.

Speaker 2

We are going to run through some stuff tonight because since we last met.

I was not with you last week, but since we last met, this has gotten even crazier.

Speaker 1

We now have more epscene revelations than we could even shake a stick at.

We have.

Speaker 2

We are now getting some of the names of the people that Cash Pattel and Pam Bondi said We're definitely not in a part of his of Epstein's child sex trafficking ring, which they definitely said did not exist.

Speaker 1

Now we definitely know it does exist.

Speaker 2

We've got Trump going bouncing off the damn walls today promising fifteen percent economic growth, which is going to be great.

Speaker 1

That's gonna work out really well.

Speaker 2

And pregaming with himself and his insane economic advisor Peter Navarro.

They're the blame game that's about to come when they release the job numbers tomorrow, which are going to be a radioactive hot disaster.

Let's play that clip of Ron Vara aka Peter Navarro with their excuse of the year.

Speaker 3

One thing I want to note the job supports coming to come out tomorrow.

We have to revise our expectations down significantly for what a monthly job number should look like.

When we were letting in two million illegal aliens, it.

Speaker 4

Just they're coming in, come in.

Speaker 3

We had to produce two hundred thousand jobs a month for steady State.

And by the way, all of the jobs that we were creating in Biden.

Speaker 4

Years, we're going to illegals.

Speaker 3

Americans were going to the unemployment lines.

That's totally reverse.

And now fifty thousand a month is going to be more like what we need.

So Wall Street, when this stuff comes out, they can't they can't rain on that parade.

They have to adjust for the fact that we're deporting millions of illegals out of our job market.

Speaker 5

So can I Just like, so, we were creating two hundred thousand jobs and now and now those people are feeling them because we've we've got them out, so that therefore there should be like two hundred and fifty thousand jobs available, right am?

I like.

Speaker 1

I was told there would be no math on this test joke.

Speaker 5

My math don't work, I know, but it doesn't.

Speaker 6

Make Can you can you imagine anything worse than being in prison and having Peter Navarro as yourself?

Speaker 1

Steve Bennette making.

Speaker 6

Crazy lunatics stuff.

He would have been saying all night.

Well, you know, you know, we can't watch what we want to watch on television because there's illegal immigrants out there and there, you know, the cell yard won't let us change the channel.

Speaker 1

I mean, I mean they're not.

Speaker 5

If they're not here taking the jobs, then there should be like plenty of freaking jobs, right, so it should be like two hundred and fifty thousand jobs.

Speaker 2

There's like the lack of a connection to the logic, facts or reason with Peter Navarro has always been sort of striking.

This is really like the high watermark for me.

Speaker 4

But here's the thing, guys, explain this.

Speaker 6

It also it was illegal immigrants that were driving up housing prices.

Now I don't think they were like unemployed or they weren't doing anything.

Speaker 4

So they're driving up housing.

Speaker 2

Prices, right, they're either welfare kings and queens or if they're driving up housing prices and taking away housing and jobs from them.

Speaker 1

I don't know which one is it.

Speaker 2

Guys, make up your minds, because make up make up whatever racist excuse you want to do for hating immigrants.

Speaker 1

H you know, Trump world, But it can't be both.

Speaker 2

They can't both be sucking the off the teet of government, large ass and stealing all the jobs.

Speaker 6

Yeah, you know, it always gets me about these sort of like white supremacy guys like Peter and Navarro.

They're the best case against twice supremacy.

You can you can imagine.

It's like, you know, it's like if if Stephen Miller is the you know, the new Aryan race America should be, we will never win another Olympic medals the rest of you know, American history, right, what is just an odd I mean, we lose sight of it that Trump sucked up just the weirdest collection of freaks and odd.

Speaker 4

Balls and people that you know.

Speaker 6

I mean, Navarrow is a guy that used to make up someone he quoted in his own book.

Speaker 7

Ron Vara, like the brilliant trade scholar.

Ron Vara said, Oh god, I don't know, guys.

Speaker 2

But look, I mean, if you're in DC and you're in the Trump universe.

Yesterday he puts out this tweet saying stop being Pannikins, which is apparently a portmanteau of Panic and Republican trying to get the Republican Party to stop what they know is happening, which is to say that Trump's pull numbers have collapsed, the economy is in terrible shape, and the Epstein stuff is out there so much that that we now know from Thomas Massey and the others who have been able to go in and see the tiny, tiny number of limited computers to examine the files, we now know that Trump's name is apparently and that in the remaining documents mentioned over a million times.

Speaker 4

You can't get hung up on these details.

Speaker 5

Are only there are only three million documents.

Speaker 1

So yeah, so.

Speaker 2

I got nothing, guys, I really, I mean I I I do like that, fat.

I do like the fact that that that Thomas Massey came out today and said, yeah, the three six names of these guys that were involved in the trafficking ring, they were redacted, and and and and Massey shamed them into unredacting them today, which I thought was pretty impressive honestly.

But I don't know, I mean, and I don't know who these people are, except of course.

Speaker 1

Leslie Wesner.

Speaker 2

We know Uh Been Uh Sultan been Ahmed Suyam.

Speaker 1

He is from the UAE.

Speaker 2

Guys, You'll be shocked to hear the same people that just gave Trump a five hundred million dollar bribe.

Speaker 6

You know, as someone who has been to a number of fundraisers at Leslie Vector's house, Western's house.

Speaker 4

It's like really not.

Speaker 6

A surprise, you know, let's just say that, like, you know, the people that he had is helping out with the fundraisers all seem to be about you know, questionable, questionable age, and question.

Speaker 2

Like had they finished their middle school algebra homework before they showed up at Less's house?

Speaker 4

Is that a total sleeves back?

Speaker 2

Well, you know, and here's the thing, you know, there's a big push on the right right now to try to say, though Trump told the sheriff in two thousand and six what a bad guy ebscene was, what else do we find out today that Trump never actually banned EBS scene from mar A Lago?

And what else do we find out in the course of this new document release that Trump was still communicating with the Trump boys and with Trump that everything had gone back to you know, normal, under the table whatever.

This this whole world though, I don't want to get your opinion on this guy, So to get a little more serious for a second.

I've been thinking about this since the this transent documents came out this protected group of American men who who knew who this guy was.

Speaker 1

They knew who he was.

Speaker 2

He had been convicted in two thousand and eight, he had served top time for this.

He was on a sex offender registry.

And these hundreds and thousands of emails from hundreds of American influential people, mostly men, some women, and all their emails are just so casual.

There's no except for Tina Brown, god lover, who said, fuck you, I'm not going to the pedophile parade.

Speaker 1

But what do you guys think about this?

Speaker 2

Like, what does it say about the moment we're in that there's been no consequences yet for anybody on this list.

There have been overseas, but not here in America.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean it is amazing.

Speaker 6

He brought down the British ambassador, brought down the chief of staff, and you know, Ciddy Wallas is in there, like doesn't matter.

Speaker 4

I don't care it.

Speaker 6

You know, I said this going back to Clinton, and you know, I mean, obviously what happened with Clinton it's just nothing in comparison to what has happened with Trump.

But you know, I mean Clinton did the cabinet members, and I've always thought that you know, it's just an alternative history.

If they had resigned in protest, and they had forced Clinton to resign, then Gore would have become president, and Gore would have been elected president in two thousand.

There's no way, yes, that George Bush would have defeated an incumbent Al Gore.

Speaker 4

So what does that mean?

Speaker 6

Maybe we wouldn't have had a rock, Maybe we wouldn't have had nine to eleven, Maybe we wouldn't have had Afghanistan.

And he just kind of goes to like this sort of you know, compromising.

They should have resigned in principle, which is the thing that people still do in England.

That would just seem to have lost here.

Speaker 5

No, there's there's people all over the world that are being hidden by this and resigning or being worked out.

Uh, it's only here.

It's only here, and it's mega because they'll defend you know, that's what's going on here.

It's that they will come up, the Trumpies and Trump and his they will come up with explanations like Navarro's, like, yeah, all the jobs that we had to create for illegals, but now we don't have to create them for you.

The same thing.

There's three million documents Trump's mentioned a million times.

Doesn't matter, they're not going.

They're not.

He can shoot somebody in Fifth Avenue and he must have had a good reason.

There had to be a good reason.

He was in there a million times.

He was probably, I mean, this is the season undercover.

This is and yes, the the they will do things that will uh, you know, wave the red flag for the base, but the rest of America, the independence, the Latina people are gone.

They don't want this ship.

And so that's the party they keep missing or are gonna, you know.

And and it's also why they keep doing the authoritarian changing the rules on the election and everything else they're gonna have to do to try to steal it, because that's what they're setting up.

Speaker 1

Joe, you've been it for two years.

Speaker 2

I mean he's thought he's losing independent voters now Republicans overall, they're losing independence by two to two and a half to one.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it's huge.

Speaker 6

Yeah, Okay, yeah, that's bad.

Speaker 1

That's what I hear.

Speaker 5

Independence are down in the twenty I mean like in the low two for approval right on approval with him, you look at the questions after question and where the independence are it's sixty eight percent unfaved.

You know, huge numbers.

These are, by the way, you know, last three four cycles, it's been Independence with with you know, fifty three forty seven one way or the other, and then they go fifty three forty seven the other way.

And that's why Trump, you know, you know, Trump defeats Harris.

And we see they were with Biden slight numbers two or three points in twenty twenty.

I've never seen I look went back.

I don't think like look at it like Carter or Nixon.

I mean presidents that were unpopular, the misery index with Carter, Nixon, Watergate, the Independence never got like this this big, I mean they got.

Speaker 2

They were never this deep in the in the hate of the candidate.

Speaker 5

Yeah, never, I mean.

Speaker 2

And what this adds up to you guys, And this is why you're going to see I think for all of our audience who follow this stuff a lot more closer than I think maybe a lot of ormies do, this is going to be an election where where Trump will have to keep doing crazier and crazier and crazier things because he is in such a deep hole right now and there's no getting out of this hole for him because he can't mentally make himself not be a crazy person.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 6

I mean, look, you know we've talked about this before that the standard move in politics me and do something like this, is it meant that you made a mistake, admit that things aren't going well, and promised to do better.

It's really not complicated.

And you know the reality is that tends to work at least, you know, for a while anyway, and with a certain percentage of people.

But Trump's incapable of that.

I mean, he releases this, you know, clans and fantasy video of image of the Obamas, and you know, won't want apologize for it.

There's nothing wrong with it.

And you know, one of the things that just really strikes me as a seventenaries and Mississippian, you know who I could walk from my house to remember Evers was assassinated.

I don't think this is where most people in Mississippi are most white Mississippians aren't They don't.

Speaker 1

Oh god, no, you look in as is this.

Speaker 4

I mean, it's it's repugnant.

Speaker 6

And their kids, their kids would all rather be you know, bad Bunny than Robert E.

Speaker 4

Lee.

Speaker 6

So I mean, what do they they just sort of lost this cultural war with the future.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

I wrote a piece about this today about about the MAGA movement is losing the culture war when it comes to not only not only to bad Bunny, but to Epstein and a whole variety of other things.

Because if Trump, if the economy were great, if the economy was banging away, Trump would have more latitude, he would have more room to more room to run, he would have more ability to to like throw out the distractions people would take them.

But the economy is so bad.

Ice is killing people in the streets.

The the the madness of Trump.

I mean, guys, right before it came in there, somebody texted me apparently Trump is now preparing to come out with a major press conference about UFOs.

Speaker 4

I didn't know this really, Yeah.

Speaker 1

I kid you not, and you know, the people, Yeah, that will distract a few people.

Speaker 2

But but I mean, the whole thing is just so it's so pathetic at this point, and it's so.

Speaker 1

It's so anxious at this point.

Speaker 2

I don't know how if you're a if you're a Republican, if you're out there running for office next year, you wake up in the morning and go this is going great, this is going to be just fine.

Speaker 6

And you know, there's there's so what Howard dean Man You may have remember this church he said he said that he was a Democrat was the phrase that he used.

It was so catching that he was he's in the democratic ing of the Democratic Party.

Yeah, and that resonated with people because they said, Okay, I know a certain group of Democrats, a lot of them.

I know what that means.

I'm proud to be a Democrat.

So there was a time when Republicans could rally up sort of a certain base of Reagan Esque values, sawing on Russia, We're going to welcome immigrants.

You know, character counts.

What do you do now as a Republican?

I mean what you know, let's just I just keep going back to this and pondering it.

What is sort of the ideological base of the Republican Party now?

Speaker 1

Where the pro care I don't think there is one.

Speaker 4

There is no one.

Speaker 5

And the filing deadlines are not over yet.

And I would bet a lot of money that you're going to see a big group hit the exits, bigger than we think.

Speaker 2

In the next We're at thirty, We're at thirty as of today.

I think, Joe, I think you're one hundred percent right.

I think that number for Republican elected officials in the Senate and in Congress could reach fifty by the time the filings hit.

Speaker 6

And what is the what's the law on this that they can keep whatever's in there and.

Speaker 2

They can keep every penny in their congressional campaign account.

Yeah, and so a lot of these guys are sitting on a couple of million dollars, a lot of a lot.

Speaker 5

Of the are going to raise money right up to the deadline.

Speaker 2

Absolutely absolutely, it's a it's a it's an old fraud, but it's a good one, you know.

But none of these people, none of these people right now who are thinking, Wow, I can't none.

Speaker 1

These people know.

These Republicans are like, you know, I can't wait to.

Speaker 2

Wait another eleven months as Donald Trump shits the bed every day.

Speaker 6

Well, you know that's just what you know, we keep saying this, that Donald Trump you saw today is the best Donald Trump.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the only easy day was yesterday.

Speaker 5

It's gonna get worse from here.

He'll get worse.

Speaker 1

I mean.

Speaker 2

One of the things, guys that I've been thinking about this a lot, is we see these polling numbers collapsing everywhere, when Donald Trump is now deeply upside down in the Rasmussen poll, which is the safest poll for Trump that is out there, folks, that is even vaguely like a legitimate poll.

They're not terribly legitimate, but they're vaguely.

So it's the last It's the last gasp.

I mean, that was one thing these guys could always say to them as well.

He's super popular with the base, but everyone else around him is absolute box office poison and they hate him.

So I got I want to change something a little bit.

And this is I'm gonna get in trouble with the staff here because it's not on the discussion list.

Speaker 1

Today.

Speaker 2

Old friend Susan Collins re entered the race today, uh formally announcing she would be running again for US Senate.

And I want to just want to get both of your takes on it, Stewart, you and I were chatting about this a little bit on on on one of our signal chats earlier.

But this is a woman, in my mind who represents the very worst part of compromising with evil.

Speaker 6

Okay, yeah, go ahead, No, I mean Susan Collins falls into the category of someone who has a great future behind him.

You know, there was a moment when you know, she seemed to represent this kind of bushy and comedy.

She was a staffer, you know, uh, somebody that just seemed like she wasn't crazy.

Speaker 4

And then.

Speaker 6

Is it such a great thing to be a United States Senator that you will go along with Donald Trump and ended up looking like an idiot when you know, all I've talked to these Supreme Court justices and they're not going to vote against you know, Roe v.

Wade, No, no, no, And then they do and it's like, oh, huh, that's concerned.

Speaker 5

Well, yeah, she's always very concerned, like a lot of us, you know, but just not doesn't it's just.

Speaker 1

Always she's concerned.

But it's not enough to do anything.

Speaker 5

Yeah, not enough to do anything.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I can't.

I can't believe.

Speaker 6

Well, you know, first time, this earlier, Rick, you know, it's astounding.

One last time, and you and I know people that worked on that campaign.

Speaker 4

The morning of the election, I.

Speaker 2

Say, I had the you and I both had conversation with two separate people in that campaign who were like, fuck you guys, she's lo We.

Speaker 4

Gave it a good shot.

That we're going to lose.

Speaker 6

I think they were astounded once you I still don't understand except the woman that she ran against, as I understand that close the election with a good.

Speaker 4

Bit of money still in the bank.

Speaker 6

Yeah, yeah, you know, they clearly thought, they clearly thought they were going to win.

But you know, can she get re elected?

I really don't have a handle on it.

Who is going to end up winning the primary or the governor?

Speaker 2

And you know, I don't know that answer.

I mean, all the DC money is behind Janet Mills.

Platner had a rough start, but he is apparently raising a lot of money online still, and the the energies with Platner, the structure is with Mills.

Speaker 1

But Joe, you know this better than I.

Speaker 5

Ye.

The polling I've seen is actually shown it's a dead heat either way that they they I think the last when the independent poll was like forty seven Collins forty six Platner and forty seven Collins forty six Mills the governor.

So you know, it's a dead heat.

The one thing I would say, I mean right now, the one thing I would say is two things.

So far in every election that we've seen this year, every single one, all of it broke to the Democrat, and the race way above where the Democrat was in the polling Virginia and New Jersey, Georgia.

So Texas, I mean, even when we lost in like Tennessee seven, it was thirteen point seven points better than than the polls or Harris had performed.

So if you're in a if you're Collins and you're in a dead heat right now with either one of the Democrats the Independence, the double haters have all won.

They voted and they've all broken eight to two for the Democrats.

So you know that's not good.

Speaker 4

If you're Angus King, just stay out of this.

Speaker 6

Is that his pattern?

I really haven't followed it.

He is he just not endorse anybody when he liked the last time did he endorse?

Speaker 5

I don't you know.

I don't know the answer to that.

I think in Maine.

Uh you look, I used to go on the Angus King Show, which is what was he used to have me on all the time.

This is like decades ago.

But he is I think seen in Maine is a true independent.

Speaker 8

Yeah, that's why I would think he's endorsement by that, so his endorsement would matter, And I don't you know, in the past, maybe out of you know, you know, you don't endorse against the colleague, et cetera.

Speaker 5

But I'm not sure that's where he's going to be this time around.

I don't know.

I haven't talked to him about it, but it would just stun me.

If if if it is a dead heat and he puts, you know, he goes out there, I think it'll matter.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he's very much still his number.

He's very popular there, Yeah, very very popular.

You know one thing I want to I want to dig into a little bit here as well.

We're seeing this wave of Republican retirements.

We're seeing this very very very narrow majority one seat in the House right now, What do you guys think the chances are that Mike Johnson is the speaker in November?

Speaker 1

Before the election.

Speaker 5

Oh, I've been saying for like six months that I don't expect him to make it to November.

I could be I could end up being wrong, but I think this thing is going to I think you're good.

I'll be surprised if we don't see another resignation from Congress in the middle of the before the session ends, right, and he can't sustain very much more loss of the majority and still hold the gavel.

I don't think he'll be able to look a minor miracle if he makes it all the way to no him.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think that's true.

And I think I think you know, Stuart, you.

Speaker 2

And I have both done a lot of Republican Speakers of the House over the last thirty years, and as a guy who has no life outside of what Trump wants, there's just there seems to be just like ordinarily the NRCC is very scrappy.

They have a lot of fighting spirit.

There just seems to be no wind in their sales at all this year.

Speaker 6

Yeah, I don't think it's fun because you know, I think that they the RNC has become a money laundering operation for the Trump family.

There are a lot of people who had invested a lot in trying to build infrastructure for the party and that was all gutted.

And I imagine in a weird way, it was disheartening to him that Trump won because it's sort of you know that what they have been doing really didn't matter it turned out.

Speaker 1

And I think that, yeah, that's so smart, you know, it's like.

Speaker 6

Oh god, you know, all know, you know which goes to the question of what is the party after Trump?

You know, there this was a problem that Democrats had because that Hillary Clinton experience, because in many ways, the Obama campaign was a hostile takeover the Democratic Party.

Sure, and you know, as I understand that the Obama world.

Once I got elected, they continued to build resources inside Obama world and not at the DNC, and so that when they left there was less to transfer over that that would have been normal to a nominees.

That that ended up hurting Hillary Clinton.

And I just don't know.

I mean, you know that Trump isn't going to be interested in electing anybody who's a Republican unless there's a Trump on the ticket.

He's gonna want the Democrat to win.

Speaker 2

Just I'm telling you guys, people, I'm the Cassandra of the Trump universe.

Speaker 1

I got so much trouble in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2

It's when I said, oh, Trump's gonna run again, and I got people on the left mat at me, people on the right mat at mean.

Speaker 1

How dare you say that?

Speaker 2

Mark my freaking words, One of the Trump sons will be on the ballot in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 1

Yeah, one of the Trump Sons is going to run in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 5

But you know, I agree with that, Eric.

But one of the things I think, you know, look what happens when a party is rolling in the kind of money that these guys are starting to rack up.

On the MAGA side, I think Maggie Ink has like five hundred million or something like I've had summon insane number is you know what, everybody's gonna lose, but those consultants are going to get filthy rich and are I think the Democrats went through this rolling out of Obama and Hillary in twenty sixteen, the gobs of money and the consultants, you know, the only people maybe their candidate was going to lose, but they're going to do just fine.

And I think that's where the where Republican consultants are right now.

And and I think in that environment, particularly with the way the polling is showing as it's just you know, put up a bunch of TV, make a bunch of money, and run for the hills, and run for the hills.

And by the way, Trump and the Sons and all that, we're gonna grab plenty of their share of that.

I think it's like eight hundred million.

Now that's sitting over there on their side compared to like three hundred million or so on the Democratic side with all the packs and everything.

But Trump and the Griff is going to be running rampant, win or lose.

They're going to lose, but that's what they're gonna do.

But and then they'll have the government at the same time, Trump's administration putting ice in the streets and doing everything else that way, So those will yeah, but they're going to be fine financial and they're gonna just like it's it's not just rigged trying to rig the election, it's rigging the financial stuff so that the consultants and Trump, uh Trump.

Speaker 6

You know, the Wall Street Journal, to their credit something I really said, has really done a good job trying to track the enrichment family and the Trump And then you know, it's as I understand that the Supreme Court immunity for Trump is about official acts.

Now, if there's nothing official about getting rich in the crypto business, and if it's done illegally, which it probably is, in violation and constitution, I think it opens up a door to go after Trump after the election, and certainly to go after his family and certainly to go after this just confederacy of crooks like the wick Coffs.

Speaker 2

Right, I mean all of all these people who are making so much money off these crypto scams.

You know, we put Sam bankmin freed in jail in this country because he stole about four hundred million dollars from it in a crypto scam.

These guys have stolen that much money just this year.

Speaker 4

A really good point.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they are, they are, They are racking up.

They are involved in the most significant crypto rug pulls and scams that have ever been We did have one of the one question from the audience tonight.

Do you think even without more resignations, there might be a motion to vacate for the speaker if things are looking bad and for the election.

You know, Patrick, I think you've got a good point, and I'll.

Speaker 1

Tell you why.

Johnson is deeply unpopular even inside his own caucus.

Speaker 2

Nobody likes this guy.

He's got no fans.

He got a couple of loyalists around him who want to keep their committee chairs, but he has no fans.

There may come a day where Thomas Massey just says fuck it, motion to vacate, and every Democrat will vote for it.

Speaker 1

And that's that.

Speaker 2

Because there there are there are there are enough folks in the Republican side who are very uncomfortable about the Epstein matter, very uncomfortable about Johnson's obsequiousness to Trump.

There could easily come a day where somebody wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and says, I a little fun today with Mike Johnson.

Speaker 4

Bye, yeah, I.

Speaker 6

Mean, you know, Lea, you had to pick the people you wanted to dine a dish with.

Who wants to done a disc with Mike Johnson?

Speaker 1

God?

No, God, no, Falcon.

That guy is.

Speaker 4

Well weirdo.

Speaker 5

Also, at some point, I think even Trump will want somebody's head and and blame everything's wrong because he didn't get this done, or he didn't the Congress didn't do that, or Mike Johnson couldn't deliver this that's that's and and blame him and and do it.

I mean, uh yeah, So I think it's a great question.

And I agree that's that's one of the scenarios by which he doesn't make it to November.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 5

I don't think he's going to make it to November.

Speaker 2

And I will say this for for our audience the minute Hakeem Jeffrey's speaker, the money flow for congressional races changes rather dramatically.

Yeah, he he makes a few phone calls and and if he's smart, he'll make those phone calls and he'll call up the major donors on the Republican side and say, level up, need the same amount plus a dollar.

Let's go right now.

And if you don't, who knows what could happen.

That's a nice that's a nice AI business you got there.

Shame if there was a National Data Center band.

I mean, you got to play hardball with this thing.

And I hope he has the If he doesn't get handed this thing, I hope he has the gumption to go out and do what do what Republicans do every.

Speaker 6

Yeah, you know, Democrats have to get over this.

You know, gentlemen don't read other gentleman's male right kind of approaching.

Speaker 1

My honorable friend across the aisle.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that's like this is that I always go back to the story.

Speaker 6

So you know, the head of American intelligence.

This continued a lot of the intelligence gathering after World War One of the United States government because gentlemen don't read other gentleman's mail.

That same person was Secretary of war, which actually what secretary of war then?

Yes, and nineteen forty five and was sitting around his office picking out which Japanese cities to obliterate with nuclear bombs.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's sort of a transition.

Speaker 1

And why did you play learn to play hard?

Speaker 6

The world had changed, So I just wish Democrats could get out of you know, go quickly from that transition from the gentleman don't read other gentleman's mail.

Speaker 4

To which cities were going to blow up with nuclear bombs.

Speaker 6

You just get there quickly, right, because we'd be a lot better off if they lived in the real world, and that is.

Speaker 4

The real world.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Well, before we wrap up tonight, I want to ask both of you, what are you following?

Speaker 1

What's the big story you've got your eye on for this weekend?

Next?

Guys, Joe, I.

Speaker 5

Have no idea, I mean somebody no, No, I'm just serious.

It's like, uh, you know, the one million times Trump's been mentioned, the other names that have been redacted.

I mean it's just that obviously you've got the jobs report tomorrow, and I think I mean, at some point here, what the most interesting thing to me has been the open ended questions about why people have turned on Trump and Mega and it's it's amazing because it's not the economy, it's it's everywhere.

It's like, you know, eleven percent inflation, six percent, racism, eight percent, corruption, even immigration, you know, the ices owned Venezuela is two points.

And what that means sells me is that the whole thing is metastasized around Trump and the entire thing.

It's not just the economy anymore.

It's it's shooting somebody in the back of their head at which.

Speaker 6

Which also means if you're trying to fix that, where do you start, because there's no clear place to fix it.

It's it's just a look, I got two things.

I got two things I'm thinking about.

One UH is is tragic and one is very hopeful in celebratory.

UH one is the tragedy of what's happening in Ukraine, and we not allow it to be forgotten.

There is a genocide that's going on in Ukraine, the attack on infrastructure.

You know, next time you go on your accurate weather or something, put in a city in Ukraine and just see how extraordinarily cold it's been and Uh, lots and lots of people are freezing to death in Ukraine.

And you know the idea if this was happening in Paris, how would the rest of Europe and the world react a lot differently?

Speaker 4

Why is it there?

Speaker 6

You know, a europe the Pean city and the largest European country.

This is happening.

It's just an absolute tragedy.

Ukrainians are winning this war, which is a story that is not often told, a great extraordinary personal national, uh sacrifice and courage.

Speaker 4

And you know when the.

Speaker 6

Irony of this is, after Ukraine wins this war, they're gonna have the most powerful, well equipped, up to date army in the world.

And it's the United States that is going to be asking Ukraine's military for help advice to protect Natal Basis.

So to say that now the celebratory one today, history was made in the Olympics an American for the second time in history, an American Mayle won a medal in cross country skiing, which.

Speaker 4

Is a favorite sport of mine.

Speaker 6

I understand that for most Americans it's sort of the race walking of Olympic sports.

But this guy, Ben Ogden from Vermont went out and did what hadn't been done since nineteen seventy six and only once in that case, and won a bronze medal in the sprint, which is a very tough, freaky race where a lot of things can happen to go wrong.

Speaker 4

He did it with great grace.

Speaker 6

And the last time an American one in nineteen seventy six, they had to delay the metal ceremony because the bands didn't know how to play the Star spangled banner.

Speaker 4

It was that much of enough.

This time, you could say.

Speaker 6

It says a lot about the work that has gone into this and these incredible athletes that this time they were prepared for it, and Ben represents everything that is good about American athletes.

And there's so many stories that are happening there.

It's, you know, there's this tragedy it happened with Lindsey Vaughn.

But there's a lot of racing still to be done and a lot of Americans are still gonna win.

Speaker 1

Absolutely well.

Folks, thanks so much for watching the Stragy session.

Speaker 2

As always, we look forward to seeing you again next Tuesday, where the world will still be hopefully spending on its axis and we will be here to tell you what the hell is going on Thanks everybody, we'll see you next time.

Speaker 5

Thanks every right, Thanks all.

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