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Bob Trumpy, the all time Cincinnati great as a player and broadcaster, passed away on Sunday at the age of eighty.

Bob was a twelfth round draft pick in the bengals first ever draft in nineteen sixty eight, who became a revolutionary player for his ability to stretch the field like a wide receiver at the tight end position.

After ten seasons with the Bengals, featuring multiple Pro Bowl appearances, Bob got into broadcasting and was the grandfather of sports talk radio in Cincinnati.

He eventually moved to NBC Sports, where he called Super Bowls, the Olympics, the PGA Tour, and much more.

Bob is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame for his lifetime achievement in broadcasting.

My condolences to his family and wide circle of friends from all walks of life.

And later in this podcast, I'll replay my fun Facts conversation with Bob where he shares some incredible stories about his remarkable life.

But up first, it's the radio replays from Sunday's roller coaster ride at pay Course Stadium.

This kick launched high and deep.

Charlie Jones catches at the one and sprints up the middle of the field.

He's to the twenty to thirty.

It's him versus the kicker.

Jones down the sideline thirty twenty ten five touchdown.

Charlie Jones with his second kick return touchdown of his NFL career.

He does a jungle jump into the crowd and the Bengals have scored eleven seconds into the game.

That is incredible.

Eleven seconds and the Bengals have seven on the board.

Fourth down in goal from the two, Caleb Williams will be in the gun, one receiver out to each side of the formation.

It is a reverse, then a flip back to DJ Moore.

He throws a pass for the quarterback and it's caught in the end zone by Caleb Williams.

Where here's all by his loathsome Sakias goes in motion.

They toss it forward to him on a jet sweep.

He's inside the ten, lunging for the pylon.

Touchdown.

Chicago man.

That's clever player.

Shotgun snap to Flacco, drops back five steps, fires a deep ball left side.

T Higgins comes away with the football, touchdown Bengals.

He just ripped it away from the defensive back in coverage and the Bengals take the lead with one twelve left in the half.

He took it right off the backside of right right.

Never found the football.

Right was wrong.

Three receivers out to the left went out to the right Williams back to throw, fires a pass into the end zone.

Loveland with the catch, holds on to the ball after being smacked by Geno Stone.

It's a touchdown for Chicago.

Second down in goal.

The balls in between the two and the threes.

Shotgun snap caught by Flacco, throws into the end zone.

T Higgins, you know the catch knocks over the pilon.

They are not giving him the touchdown really, even though he knocked over the pylon.

It's going to be discussed for now.

It has been spotted just short, and I.

Think the bigger official on the back of the end zone, I think he may overrule and say that was a touchdown.

It is.

There's the touchdown Singo Bears trying to take the lead back.

They're down by three here in the third quarter.

Williams tosses it.

It's a run to the left for Brown inside the fifteen ten five touchdown one to go at the twenty three of Chicago.

Shotgun snap Flaco throwing up the field.

It is caught by Noah Fans running up the seam.

He catches the touchdown pass and the Bengals will go for two with one forty three to go.

Flaco drops back, throws it into the end zone and it is caught for the two point conversion by t Higgins.

He has two touchdown catches and a two point conversion.

So the Bengals are down by six forty one thirty five.

They're gonna try for an on sidekick and if they recover it, there would be plenty of time left to try for a game winning touchdown.

Five teammates on each side of Evan McPherson, so it's hard to tell which way he's going to kick it.

He stands about three yards away from the ball, He approaches it, kicks it left.

It is bouncing short of ten yards, but it hit a member of the Chicago Bears, giving the Bengals a chance to recover even though it did not go ten yards.

If the Bears touch it first, that makes it a live ball, and.

There's a wrestling match going on for that football.

Now, Man strong hands win Benindo situations.

Man is It's like you're fighting for your life in that pot.

The officials are trying to pull players off the pile as the fight goes on for the ball on the ground at the forty three yard line.

One officials yell Bengals ball.

The Bengals have recovered.

Bengals ball.

The Bengals have recovered.

With one minute and forty two seconds to go, Flaco ready for the shotgun snap.

He catches short drop, firing.

Into the EG zone, caught by Andre Yo Si Bash.

The Bengals have tied it.

Flacco raising both arms triumphantly, and now an extra point by money Mack could give Cincinnati a forty two to forty one lead with fifty four seconds to go, and Joe Flacco.

Just calmly slapping skin, slapping palms with teammates and coaches as he works his way to the Bengals bench.

I'm telling you, man, there's ice water in that man's veins.

Williams in the gun with Manungai to his left, Bengals creeping up toward the line defensively.

Williams drops back to throw.

Here comes a blitz, doesn't get home.

Throw down the middle of the field, caught Loveland at the twenty fifteen ten five touchdown Chicago with seventeen seconds to go, a fifty eight yard touchdown pass to tight end Colston Loveland and the Chicago Bears are going to beat Cincinnati despite the heroics of Joe Flaco.

Incredible, incredible and mean you score forty two points and you're gonna lose' that's incomprehensible.

And you have a quarterback that throws for over four hundred yards and four touchdowns wasted.

Frustrating.

It's a frustrating game.

The final score Chicago forty seven, Cincinnati forty two.

If not for Chicago's game winning touchdown with seventeen seconds to go, it could have been, maybe should have been, one of the most memorable wins in the bengals fifty eight year history.

And what can you say about Joe Flacco Playing at his two hundred and twentieth NFL game with an injured shoulder and a graying beard, Flacco threw for a career high four hundred and seventy yards.

His previous high was three eighty nine, and it was so long ago that the opponent was Saint Louis.

In four starts for Cincinnati, Flacco is averaging more than three hundred and thirteen passing yards a game, with eleven touchdowns, two picks, and a passer rating of one oh two point six.

More importantly, the Bengals are averaging nearly thirty three points a game with Flacco as the starting quarterback.

Here's Joe after another remarkable performance.

Oh it's tough, you know.

I mean, but anytime you're on the losing end, it's tough.

I think when you've when you've played a lot of games, it's not the way you lose doesn't make it any worse necessarily, you know.

I think you learn that these these games come down to the last minute, and you gotta be ready for anything.

And you know a win to win, a loss is lost.

If you don't keep your head down and and and and go to work, then it's going to be a long, miserable season for you.

You can't get distracted, uh and you can't you know you're going to be emotional after a game, but at some point you've got to let that go.

This is our profession, you know.

We we do this for a living and we take pride in doing it.

And I hope that you would continue to take pride in doing what you do for a living, no matter what the outcome is.

And yeah, I mean maybe that's easier said than done, but that's what you got to do, because you know this leg will eat.

You up and.

It will not be it will not be good.

I'm sure.

I'm sure Baltimore isn't sitting there, you know, tucking their tail between their legs.

With the record they have, They're probably motivated and excited about the opportunity, opportunity that they have going forward.

I don't think we can look at it any different.

Every one of us have enough to worry about on our own that you can't be wiring about everybody else, because then all of a sudden, once again, it's going to be a tough eight weeks for us if we're worrying about what other people are doing.

I know, team is one, it's one team.

In order to have that one team, you need to focus on yourself and do your job.

And I get I get it.

It can get emotional.

But you know, there's times to be emotional and show people that.

And but usually when those times are good, in good things and towards people you love.

And I think if we're emotional, then we should come at it with an angle of this is my brother, as opposed to the opposite of that.

I just think that's what good, hardworking, tough people do.

They don't look at other people.

They look inward and it doesn't matter what the situation is.

They look inward at the tail end there.

Joe is obviously responding to questions about a potential rift between the offense and defense after the Bengals scored eighty points in the last two weeks and did not come away with a win.

Listen, it's human nature to be frustrated and angry you are, so why wouldn't they be.

But football is the ultimate team sport, and on Monday, roughly seventy players will be back in that locker room working together toward a common goal.

Here are Ted Carris, Chase Brown, and Orrin Burks on one of the craziest games they'll ever play.

It's a crazy ending.

You know, hard to denote something as a classic when you lose, but that was.

At an all time game.

Just don't turn on each other, like we we know how they can play.

They played really well at the start of the season, like they did, and they like they were carrying us on their back, so, you know, in other words, stepping up.

I think like I think like, you know, we just got to play complimentary football, like we put the ball in the end zone and go up a play at the end finish game like just ended.

Like that's it.

Like, that's that's like, that's what we need to do.

Just end game, like make them, make them get us the ball back, let us go to twenty two victory and let's end the game.

That's how that's like, that's how I feel.

We're taking steps forward so offensively.

So that's good.

You know, the offense did a great job driving down the field, putting this in a position to win, and we just came up short.

And you know, there's no point in the fingers is again like everybody looking internally at ourselves, how can I be better?

Uh, just being the best rison ourselves out there on the field and collectively, that's what we're gonna like the results if we can continue to do that.

I don't say anything to anyone right now.

I'll let everyone be raw in their own heads.

And you know, a lot of leadership.

There's nothing you can say after a heartbreaker like that.

So you just got to come to work.

I think we're coming in tomorrow and then when we get back from the break, I mean, you just got to show up every day with a ferocity to compete and to try and win ball games.

So I don't have some raw ross speech.

It's going to make anyone feel better today, but you know, excited for the second half of the season.

The Bengals are now three and six after the defense was the key to victory and a seventeen to sixteen Week one win in Cleveland.

The Bengals have allowed twenty seven or more points in every game since.

Here's Zach Taylor after Sunday's loss to Chicago.

Can't believe it, can't believe it.

Things right there, and then we just we don't find a way to get it done and win a game.

We just got to make one play, just one play, and some of these losses turn into wins.

And so again we just got to his coaches, we're gonna find this week, finding a way, finding a way to help everybody and get it done.

Because this is it's sick.

It's sick to lose like that.

It's sick.

That's what happened.

So we got to own it, and we got to keep finding ways to improve and keep finding ways to find a win.

The last two weeks hasn't happened sick right now, But all we can do is pick ourselves up and keep fighting and and That's the beauty of being in this profession and be in this locker room is is we see what.

We're made of.

We're gonna keep fighting.

We we know it was gonna be pretty loud noise out there, criticism, It's deserved when when we're the record we are and the results we've had, We're gonna keep showing our character and keep fighting and find a way to lead these guys and find a way to to make some plays and get some wins and and keep the season alive.

That's what we're gonna do.

What Joe Flacco did for us this week, You'll never forget, you know.

And and I mean just knowing what our quarterback room is working through right now, what Joe Burrow is doing to and Joe Flacco, and what Jake's all the things he's done, It's a really mentally tough room that leads by example.

Joe Flacco got the opportunity to show that this week.

That's him.

Joe Burrow working like crazy behind the scenes to do everything he can to help our team.

Flacco, I mean, he couldn't.

He could barely lift his arm this week, you know, and he's willing to go put himself out there for a bunch of teammates that he's been with for three weeks.

You know, he's a football player, that's what he's out of here and said, he said, I play football for a living.

That's what I do.

And and oftentimes you need that throughout the locker room.

Guys.

They're just football players and they remember that and they'll go out there and do whatever it takes to help their team win a game, no matter what normach of the circumstances.

Got a bye week next week, you get a chance to get rested up.

That's how Joe Flacco looks at it.

And so he went out there and put himself on the line.

I'm sure he's gonna be in a ton of pain tomorrow, and we'll give him ten days off and we'll see if you can come back and do it again.

It's frustrating for everybody to put in the work that's being put in and this is the result we've had.

It's it's frustrating and and uh, you know, sometimes you got to take a deep breath and then then come back to work and try to uplift others.

That's I faced a lot of diversity here and the only thing I know how to do is keep trying to lift people up.

That doesn't mean we run from corrections, that doesn't mean we don't give criticism.

But at the same time, the easy thing to do is question and everything and point fingers and and and uh be negative and and be an energy vampire in a lot of ways.

And I think we got enough guys that just want to continue to lift people up and finanswers, find solutions, help where they can make myself better, make the person next to me better.

And that's that's all I know how to do.

That's how we built the coaching staff that does that too.

We built the locker room full of leaders and great men that are that are falling suit there and that's what I've seen from them.

And that's just what we're going to continue to do.

And I don't have something I can say that's going to say we we We're just going to fix this and things are going to be better.

It's not that simple.

I wish it was, but I can promise you we're gonna fight like kel to to keep keep finding wins here and get the season turned around.

The Bengals have a by next Sunday before a road game in Pittsburgh.

The Steelers beat the Colts on Sunday to improve to five and three, meaning the Bengals are two and a half games back in the division.

Cincinnati is a half game behind the second place Ravens.

So if the Bengals are going to stay in the hunt in the a f SEE North, they're going to have to win their head to head matchups against those two teams.

Now time for the radio guy's recap.

Let's start with the obvious positive, and that is the latest remarkable performance by Joe Flacco.

Four hundred and seventy yards three oh five in the second half, four touchdowns, what should have been one of the great miraculous comeback victories in Bengals history.

I'm running out of words to describe the guy.

It's incredible.

Three hundred and five yards in the second half, Are you kidding me?

That's absurd.

I mean six and ten yard passing day, that equates to eight touchdowns, that equates to as well.

Those numbers are incomprehensible, they're unattainable.

Yet he's doing it.

You tip the cap to him.

Boy, here's a guy that understands the game of football.

It hasn't passed him by.

He knows exactly what he's doing.

He knows how he's supposed to do it, what he's supposed to do, and how he's supposed to get there to get it done.

And his teammates love him.

They worshiped the ground he walks on.

Really, I mean, they're waiting to hear his next words with baited breath.

You know, it's a remarkable thing to watch, and they're responding to him, and you know he's got weapons to throw to.

Jamar Chase t.

Higgins had big days.

You'll see made some big plays as well, But three hundred and five yards is you know, you don't dream.

I guess you do dream about it when you're a young player, high school, college or NFL player, but to actually achieve it is yet another.

Thing in a half, just amazing, ridiculous.

Let's discuss something that we briefly discussed on the air late in the game.

Joe Flacco is forty years old.

There have been a couple of instances within the last few years where it looked like his career was over.

We both agreed late in the broadcast that if he's interested in coming back next year as Joe Burrows back up at age forty one.

I'd sign them to that deal right now.

I agree one hundred thousand percent.

I think that would be the best one to two punch, the best tandem to quarterback tandem the National Football League has ever had.

I'm not talking about it just this year.

I mean, these two guys, they know how to play football.

They love the game.

They're all about the game.

The game is a big part of their life.

They're football players.

They're proud to be football players, loud and proud to be football players.

You know.

And Joe Burrow is on the field today supporting the efforts to Joe Flacco.

That was good to see.

I think they've got a good relationship.

I think they've bonded.

You know, they probably have spent quite a bit of time together talking football, talking other things, you know, in life about life.

Blacko's that kind of guy.

Blacko's you know, he's he's a stage veteran football player, eighteen seasons in the National Football League.

That alone would be something for Joe Burrow to into and find out how the hell he's accomplished that.

And being able to stay out of harm's way and avoid injury for as many snaps, as many hits as he's taken out there.

I think there are x'es and o's factors that could be helpful for Joe Burrow of Flacco is still around.

But I think even more than that, he's just such a normal guy.

Joe has this crazy life that none of us Joe Burrow, that is crazy life that none of us can identify with.

You know, every move that he makes is scrutinized and seen by millions of people.

But maybe just being around a guy who's a father of five nothing phases him.

That part of it I think would be good for Joe Burrow.

I think Joe Flacco is normal.

I mean, he's a normal dude that just happens to be able to play football at the highest level it can be played, you know, I mean he is.

I mean, I don't know in Bengals history if there's been another game where a quarterbacks is frowing four with three hundred yards and a half.

I mean, that's like stratospheric stuff.

That's Hall of Fame stuff.

I mean that football should go you right up to right up to the Hall of Fame, you know.

I know Joe probably wouldn't want it to because he didn't win the football game.

And that's the reason you play, as has been said many times, you play to win the game.

Period.

That's end of sentence.

That's what it's all about.

And Joe Flako is going to win a lot more games for the Cincinnati Bengals this year.

I think it's only just begun.

All right, enough of the positive should we get to the other side of the coin.

Let's talk about the defensive issues, and there are many up First, stopping the run, the Bears top two running backs were out.

Kyle m Nungai, seventh round draft pick out of Rutgers, goes up and down the field for most of the game.

The Bengals wind up allowing more than two hundred and fifty rushing yards.

Again, the problems begin up front.

Right absolutely.

I mean when you give up two hundred and fifty rushing yards, what what I mean more than once in the same season.

I don't think that's happened in Bengal history either.

So, I mean there's a lot of things going on here, positively and negatively, and it's a three and six football team trying to figure things out.

Man, there are It starts with the with the defensive line.

I agree with you.

You know, they're they're getting beaten, they're getting handled at the line of scrimmage.

Too many times, they get consumed, they're you know, covered up by blockers and don't get off, don't get off the block, and don't make plays, and there's too many yards after contact that you know that that they allow, and it just it's starting to get old.

I bet Al Golden is tearing his hair out by the roots.

I bet he's not pleasant to live with.

I'm sure his wife could attest to that.

These kind of these kind of stretches where your side of the football is not holding up its center of the bargain, it's costume the football team wins.

Is very, very difficult to deal with because you know, you have a lot of pride in what you do as well, and you've risen to a very high level of the highest level of football, and you know you're embarrassed by what they're doing.

Al Golden's a good coach in my opinion.

Lou Anarromo is obviously a good coach too.

The Bengals tried to switch things up and see if maybe l could develop the younger guys a little bit better than Lou had done.

The bottom line is this is a personnel issue.

The Bengals are going to need to continue to add defensive talent in a big way in the next year.

There's no doubt.

I mean, Duke Tobin, I know, we know him very well.

We understand and appreciate the fact that he is a guy, is a football lifer, and he understands the game of football.

Social media is not being kind to Duke Tobin right now.

It's a very difficult time for him.

You know, he's he's been on the game forever, played the game and then went to work as a scout with his dad and Bill Tobin legendary one of the best personnel guys to ever work in the National Football They put together super Bowl winning football teams.

Duke Tobin was the guy who the architect of the team went to the Super Bowl for the Cincinnati Bengals as well.

Did they win the Super Bowl?

No, That's what I would love to see.

Somehow it can happen.

I'd love to see the Cincinnati Bengals win the division to go to the win the playoff game, go to the ANFC Championship, win that and go to the Super Bowl.

I mean, I'd like to see it before I'm done, and they better do it sooner out and later, because I ain't gonna be around forever.

The trade deadline is upon us.

The Bengals historically have not liked to trade away their best players, but in light of the circumstances, their record, Joe Burrow's injury, the need to upgrade their defensive personnel, do you think they're more open to trading somebody like Trey Hendrickson or Logan Wilson than they typically would have been in the past.

You know, you got to think, so, you got to think that they would be in that mindset, particularly the difficulty they're having getting a contract done, you know, and normally, and that's the case, when Mike Brown has come to a stalemate or you know, a roadblock or a difficult situation in contract negotiations, that's when you start to think about trading people.

So, I mean, I'd hate to see him trade Tray because I mean, they're having trouble pressure in the quarterback.

They just can't get any anything done, and he is their best pass rusher by far.

He's probably one of the three best pass rushers the NFL has to offer.

So I would hate to see Trey Henderson go elsewhere and be what that football team needed to get over the top and you know, start winning their division, winning the conference championship and going to the super Bowl.

Else Yeah, nobody wants to see Tray go.

On the other hand, at this point, it's a if the price is right type of situation really with all of those guys that are being rumored as potential trade candidates.

Yeah, you're right, and if you get some kind of an offer you can't refuse for anybody.

I remember Paul Brown telling us all, you know, standing up in front of the entire football team, If you think you're going to be here forever, if you think you're above being let go or traded or whatever, think again, young man, that's not the case.

If we get an offer for you that we can't refuse, we won't refuse it.

You'll be gone in a heartbeat.

Well, we almost had a chance to call arguably the wackiest come from behind victory in Bengals history.

We just needed to eliminate the last fifty four seconds.

Yeah, that's right, one minute of our lives, one minute of the Bengals football lives in this twenty twenty five season.

It has been a crazy, wacky year for sure, but as we said Dan, far from over.

There's a lot of season left.

Eight football games.

It a lot can happen in those eight games.

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Finally, my latest fun facts conversation this week was with tight end Noah Fan, but we're going to save that for a future podcast because I want to conclude this episode by replaying the conversation I had a few years ago with Bob Trumpy, who passed away on Sunday at the age of eighty.

Time for some fun facts with one of the great players in Bengals history, a four time Pro Bowl tight end who went on to have a great career in broadcasting, the legendary Bob Trumpy, greatest twelfth round draft pick in an NFL history.

I would say, how did you learn that you were selected by the Bengals?

I remember was something bizarre.

I was working as a bill collector for a beneficial finance.

The address is six oh seven Hill Street.

Don't tell me how I remember that.

It was in downtown Los Angeles and my wife called me and said, you just got drafted.

And I said that's impossible.

I just got out of the Navy.

She said, no, no, no, by some team in Cincinnati.

Is that Ohio?

And I said yeah.

She said it's the Cincinnati Beagles And I said, are you kidding?

She said no, I'm not kidding.

And I said, how do you know that?

He said, there's a telegram here from Paul Brown the congratulations you've been drafted in the twelfth round by the Cincinnati Bengals.

And I said, you're sure you're not kidding me.

This is no joke.

She said, yes, yes, aren't you excited?

And I said absolutely I am.

And I walked into the boss of beneficial finance at six oh seven Hill Street in downtown Los Angeles and said I quit.

I might mention I had no clue how they knew about me or what the connection was between the Cincinnati Bengals and one kid named Trumpy.

And when I made the team, my wife and I moved in an apartment on Galworth Road.

And another person there was Al Locasel with his wife and he was a director of player personnel.

And we're sitting down on the front stoop one night having a beer and I said, Al, who's responsible for me being drafted?

He said me?

And I said, what did you know about me?

Said?

I saw you twice, once on the beach in Daytona and once planned for the University of Utah against Houston.

And I just wrote your name down and kept track, and the draft twelve around.

Paul Brown says, offense receiver, somebody with some speed.

And he said, I'm flipping through a spiral notebook and I get to the t's and there's your name.

Some total of the research they did on me.

That was it.

When he said on the beach in Daytona, what was he referring to?

He was a scout for the San Diego Chargers.

The guy that owned the motel were four fraternity brothers and I were staying for spring break was owned by a guy named bud Asher.

Bud Asher ran owned and coached a minor league football team in Daytona Beach.

We didn't know that, just pure coincidence that we stopped there.

A guy comes up to me, some kid I had in Illinois hooded sweatshirt on.

He said, I understand you're a receiver at the University of Illinois.

Said yeah.

This was between my freshman and sophomore year.

He said, I'm trying to make this team.

Would you mind catching some passes?

Format Oh, I don't mind at all, big beach, beautiful shirt.

Get done.

Go back up by the pool.

And one of my paternity brothers said, some guy was asking about you, and I said, what do you mean asking about me?

Well, the quarterback was trying out, not me, he said, no, he was asking who you were.

And he had a big ring on.

It was al locusl.

We're doing fun facts with Bob Trumpy.

You used the expression big receiver, tall and fast but not heavy.

What did you weigh when you first showed up at camp.

To eight legitimately, But I weighed in with a ten pound weight in a towel on a shoe string underneath, So I thought the first meeting.

We had a meeting first, as was always the case with Paul, and everybody was listening.

I was counting.

I'm not joking.

I was counting the number of tight ends and the number of wide receivers.

And he went through the numbers as to what numbers they were going to keep at what positions and who might that be?

And I thought, she was you know, if I can be in both those lines, I got a better chance to make the ball club.

So the first night I lost a roommate, Wally Scott.

He was cut before the first practice.

But I gained an idea as to how I could be in both lines, and I the first year I weighed with that ten pound weight.

Now make the team.

Last game of the season, we played the New York Jets.

They played what we referred to as an over defense.

The defensive end was on me.

If we were left, it was Erlin Biggs.

If we were to the right, it was Jerry Philban.

Biggs was two eighty Philman was two sixty five.

And I weighed in that week at one ninety six to myself.

So game ends, we get beat and Bill Walsh walks up to me on the plane after the game.

He said, man, you had a tough day.

I said, I can't block those guys.

And he said, well, is a technique, And I said, no, I weigh one hundred and ninety six pounds.

And he just goes crazy, What why didn't you tell me?

You go no, no, no, no, no no.

And I said, you're not listed at one ninety six, You're listed at to eighteen.

I said, well, I weighed in with a ten pound weight.

So for the next two years I had no weight naked, but I made the team.

We're doing fun Facts with Bob Trumpy.

Describe your relationship with Paul Brown.

I think he treated us all exactly the same.

Uh.

He was the boss.

I don't ever remember him give us a giving us a one one for the gip or speech.

I don't ever remember him.

I don't ring a cuss word.

Uh.

He treated me like everybody else.

I was thankful for that.

That's all I wanted.

Uh and uh.

But he did invite me wants to a golf tournament up in Dayton, put on by a friend of his.

And when he called me, uh, he called my house.

My wife answers, and I'm at work at Pogues and Kenwood off season job and my wife calls me and says Paul Brown just called me.

He wants to talk to you.

My first thought was Buffalo.

I'm going to Buffalo, and I quickly h called and Mary, who was going to turn out to be his future wife, answered the phone.

She said, hold on just a minute.

Coach does want to talk to you.

And he gets on the phone and he says, my friend up in Dayton, Si Lauter has a golf tournament I'd like to invite you, called the Bogie Busters.

And what bogie Busters?

You mean?

No, Buffalo, I'm not going to Buffalo and he said, no, just play all okay?

Fine.

So as a player, I enjoy the relationship.

Trump.

As I mentioned at the beginning of the interview, after your career, you went on to have a tremendous career in broadcasting, got the opportunity to call Super Bowls and so many other big events.

What was more nerve racking for you playing in a big game or being behind the mic at a Super Bowl.

I never got the adrenaline rush broadcasting that I got playing, and I've never found anything that matches that adrenaline rush.

I mean, I don't care if you're fifteen and one or for US thirteen and one or one and thirteen.

The adrenaline rush you get before a football game, it's just it's unmatched.

So I was probably more nervous before football games.

You don't get the sense when you're broadcasting that you might be talking to tens or hundreds and millions of people.

You got the guy sitting next to you, and I had some good ones to it.

You're in this together.

You don't have to be perfect neither.

There's that guy.

We help each other.

But in football, I got a job, and if I don't do it, the play doesn't work.

It's not quite that way in broadcasting.

It was much easier to deal with the nervousness in broadcasting.

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