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Wickedly Weird 12: Anatoly Moskvin

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Speaker 1

Hey guys, welcome to episode eleven of Wickedly Weird with Jerry and Amanda.

Speaker 2

I'm Jerry, of course, and I'm Amanda.

Speaker 1

Well that took forever.

Uh so I'm look, I'm not gonna edit it out.

We're just going to make people think that you just don't know when to respond.

Speaker 2

No, I did.

I had.

It was like a cutouts in my eyebrows.

Speaker 1

I do see your eyebrows.

I'm about to get you to I've been going on some shows, Amanda, other shows to promote this one.

I need to get you to come on with me on somebody when you come in.

Well, I will, that's what she said.

Nasty, I'll next time I get something set up, I will let you know and then we can accordingly.

Speaker 2

Yes, three way, you know, I don't think free way it.

How do I know what's who the other partaker is?

Speaker 1

Well, it'll just be a surprise for everybody.

Speaker 2

No, I don't want to be surprised.

I'm surprised every day, Amanda.

Speaker 1

This story is definitely going to prove the old adage that you can't judge a book by its cover.

Speaker 2

Oh but can ya?

Speaker 1

I've always said that too.

If it's a you know girl, Uh, you know going down on a guy.

It's porn.

You can't can't judge it.

Speaker 2

You can't judge it.

Maybe surprised eyebrow.

Speaker 1

Have you ever heard of anatotally mosque Finn?

Nope?

Speaker 2

Actually I have, not shocking.

Speaker 1

You still might know this story, though, so anatotally mosquken Moskvin was a very intelligent Russian who spoke thirteen different languages.

He traveled extensively across all of Europe.

He was a published scholar and a college lecturer.

But man, did he have a secret?

Speaker 2

Was he?

Speaker 1

Oh?

Speaker 2

God?

Was he like a mass murder or something fucked up?

Speaker 1

Probably it's too early for you to be asking questions.

No, it's not, it's too you probably are like on will of fortune when there's like one letter up, I solve the puzzle.

Speaker 2

Wait, No, I have to wait for I have to wait for the third I have to wait for the third letter.

Speaker 1

One of the things that he was an expert on was local cemeteries, and this would be in the city of I think it's called Novgorod in Russia.

Speaker 2

Oh, it's probably super spooky.

Is it a spooky Will you stop?

I'm excited?

Speaker 1

Okay, I got like ten pages of shit here and you I hadn't even got the halfway through.

Speaker 2

Sorry, I'm excited.

I can't contain it.

Okay, I'm done.

Go ahead.

Speaker 1

He claims that between two thousand and five and two thousand and seven he visited seven hundred and fifty two cemeteries.

WHOA Am I wrong?

Or does that sound like a lot of cemeteries for even a big city.

I mean, I've never a lot.

I've never really thought of how many cemeteries are in a city, But I wouldn't have thought there'd be like seven hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2

That's kind of a lot that Yeah, I feel like that.

Speaker 1

That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 2

Is that true?

Or did he fib a little on that one?

Speaker 1

No, I don't think that.

I don't think so.

I think there was probably that many in the city.

Now, he was dialed into the history of every one of these cemeteries.

Think about that.

He what he was dialed in on the history.

He'd like knew everything about everyone.

Speaker 2

Oh my god, it's like you, like a many versions of you, You know everything about something.

Speaker 1

Whatever, Amanda, You're gonna love this.

Speaker 2

Tell me.

Speaker 1

He says that his passion with cemeteries started back in nineteen seventy nine when he get this.

He was thirteen.

A group of men in black suits stopped him when he was on his way home from school.

Speaker 2

Okay, get out, Okay.

Speaker 1

These men were on their way to the funeral of an eleven year old by the name of Natasha Petrolia A Petrova so sad.

Allegedly, they dragged anatotally into the coffin, where they made him kiss the corpse of the young girl.

Speaker 2

Ew nah ah.

Speaker 1

That's what he said happened, he said, this has starred.

It started his obsession.

Yeah, you know, all things.

Speaker 2

Gross.

Okay.

Speaker 1

He said he even spent one night sleeping in a coffin before the deceased person's funeral.

To add to his observations about death.

Speaker 2

I think some story, Okay, how you think you do?

I think?

Is this?

Can I say it?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Is it about a like rock band guy who like was huffing dead animals?

Was that one?

Speaker 1

No?

Speaker 2

That okay?

Speaker 1

That is that that actually took place somewhere else.

But I know that story.

Speaker 2

Too, Okay, all right, so it's not that's nasty.

Speaker 1

His name was actually Death and he ended up committing suicide.

But that was like, yeah, he was.

Speaker 2

He was on one.

Speaker 1

That was in Scandinavia.

I think Norway or Finland.

That's where that took place at something.

Speaker 2

And I don't know, but I know I was traumatized.

Speaker 1

I'm trying thinking the name of the band.

It starts with an M.

It's like the manhatters the.

Speaker 2

Love smelling dead stuff.

That's the name of the band.

Speaker 1

All right.

So he said this sleeping in the casket and stuff kind of put his obsession over the top.

So in two thousand and nine, oh god, locals began to discover the graves of their loved ones were becoming desecrated, and in some cases they were completely dug up.

Speaker 2

No, he was doing things with stuff.

No he was.

Speaker 1

He was doing things with stuff.

Speaker 2

He was doing stuff.

He was a dirty bread That's okay, let's just well.

Speaker 1

Initially, authorities thought that this must be the work of some kind of extremist organizations that were that were local.

So they decided, you know what, We're going to increase police protection in all these areas that had been mostly affected.

But after nearly two years they had found that nothing and the graves were still being desecrated.

That's when they got their big break there was a terrorist attack at the Moscow airport in two thousand and eleven.

Shortly afterwards, some Muslim graves in the area started being vandalized.

Now, in these cases there was somebody was actually painting over the pictures of the dead Muslims like they would be on their headstone, and somebody was over the pictures.

Now, further investigation led them to a Moscowan I think that's what they're called, who was caught red handed gravesite.

The man was none other than Anatotly Moscovin.

Oh, this gets way worse.

Speaker 2

Oh, great buckle in eut.

Speaker 1

So the police search his house, which was a little small apartment that he shared with his elderly parents.

And I'm gonna tell you what they found right after this quick smart Oh oh god, all right, Amanda.

When the police entered the home, what they found was shocking.

The apartment was full of life size doll like figures.

Speaker 2

Oh wait, I think I do know this one.

Okay.

Speaker 1

The figures resemble antique dolls that were dressed in the finest of clothing.

Speaker 2

Oh is this the guy with the dead but the doll?

And it was okay, go ahead, I know, I think I know where this is going.

Speaker 1

Now, don't get confused with the case in Florida where the old man had the diabetes victim.

The Latino die bet these victim down in Key West that he had stored in his apartment that he that might be thinking about.

Speaker 2

Huh was he banging that one?

Yes, okay, maybe it is.

Speaker 1

Some Some of these dolls had on knee high boots and they had cloth covering their faces, but there was makeup drawing the faces on them.

The problem was that these were not dolls.

They were mollified corpses of human women.

You can actually find some video footage on YouTube from the police on this case, whether they're going through the house and you could see some of them.

Speaker 2

Trigger at it.

Yeah, like why people are gross?

Go ahead.

Speaker 1

Police also found pictures and plaques taken from the grave sites, as well as a doll making.

Speaker 2

Manual cemetery like things.

All that's so gross, okay.

Speaker 1

There were also a personal belongings in clothing inside of the mummies.

One even had a piece of her own gravestone with her name written on.

Speaker 2

It wait inside of her body cavity.

Speaker 1

Yes, this was inside of her body.

Another one contained a hospital tag with the date and the cause of her death on it.

Wow, I get this.

A third corpse and a dried human heart found inside of it?

Speaker 2

Why, like, why is the thing?

Speaker 1

Anatotally eventually admitted that he would stuff to decay corpses with rags, and he would wrap their hands in nylon tights and draw faces on them.

He would also insert buttons or fake eyes into the girl's eye sockets.

Speaker 2

What the fuck?

Why?

Speaker 1

Good question?

So they could watch cartoons with him.

Speaker 2

I knew it.

I knew it.

Speaker 1

He tells police that he dug up the graves of the girls because he was lonely and he wanted children of his own.

Speaker 2

And I mean, you know, so wait they were children bodies.

Speaker 1

Well we'll get to that part.

But yes, in.

Speaker 2

Some case that no disgusting me.

Speaker 1

I mean, after all, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

And you know, I probably would have went with adoption or something like that.

Speaker 2

But why, like so they were just like his chi Okay, great, this is good.

Speaker 1

After getting the bodies home, he used a simple solution of salt and baking soda to preserve the corpses.

He treated them as if they were his daughters.

Again, probably not as interactive as a dog or cat might have been.

They probably just laid around, of course, but that's what he chose to do.

Now.

He would sing to them and celebrate their birthdays.

Speaker 2

Oh that's great.

Speaker 1

Now he was waiting for science to find a way to bring them back to life.

That's why.

Speaker 2

Oh wow, Okay.

Speaker 1

He did deny any sexual contact to the corpses.

He said that never they were his kids.

In all, Amanda, how many dolls slash corpses do you think the police found?

Speaker 2

Uh, this guy's a freak.

So I'm gonna go with like twenty.

Speaker 1

Five twenty nine life sized dolls, ranged in age from three years old to twenty five years old.

Speaker 2

That's so sad.

Speaker 1

One of them he had for nine years.

Speaker 2

How does nobody know that something funky's going on?

How does someone say, pump the brakes?

This guy is weird.

Let's go check into this.

Speaker 1

His parents had absolutely no clue of what was going when they believed that they were just real dolls and that he just had an obsession.

I guess he did, but not the way they know.

Speaker 2

But like, if that was my kid, I'd be like, something's wrong here?

What is this?

What is this?

Gonna call the fuzz on you.

This is a problem.

Speaker 1

In the end, anatolely Moskfen was charged with twelve crimes, all of which dealt with desecration of graves, schizophrenia, and sentenced to time in a psychiatric hospital.

Speaker 2

So he did go to the poke.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

He told authorities not to bury the bodies too deep though, because he was going to redig them back up when he got out.

Speaker 2

Oh, he's never getting out.

Is he still in there?

Could you imagine that?

Speaker 1

I think he is still in there?

Now.

That was somebody, think about that.

That was somebody who was super intelligent.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but you know what, I was listening to a story about the Unibomber and like he was super intelligent too, but like why can't you use that intelligence for good instead of like you know, digging up dead bodies and doing weird ship But the Unibomber also had schizophrenia, I believe, so, like it's definitely a case of mental illness.

Like it's all mental illness.

Speaker 1

I don't know how far back you went to in the into the un obomber.

But he actually went to Harvard but he was part he was part of some testing or experiments that mentally screwed him.

Up and that's where that's where his problems came from.

Speaker 2

Wait, but he was like a small kid or something.

Speaker 1

No, he was, he was.

He was in Harvard.

He was a college student at.

Speaker 2

The time, and they did all this stuff.

Speaker 1

It was but yeah, he part partook in some kind of study and the study was was mentally messed up.

Speaker 2

So that's why I remember it because she was calling him the unipooper and not the bomber, and I was I don't.

Speaker 1

Remember the exact case on what that was the name of that band.

That's driving me crazy because we did a complete story on him.

Speaker 2

He like took dead birds and like toffed their dead corpses, like why.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and he would name he would The thing about it was he would bury his clothes in the ground and stuff stuff like that, just to to try to get close to, uh, get close to the smell of what death would be like.

And he would carry around dead birds and like a bag so he could just smell it and stuff like that.

Speaker 2

That's yeah.

And he killed himself.

I don't know how.

It was a shotgun or something.

Speaker 1

A shotgun and he left a note basically stating that he's sorry about the mess and then the other people in the band made necklaces and stuff out of bonds.

They called the police for like three days.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they did something with his skull too, didn't they do something like really morbid with his skull?

They saved it or something?

Speaker 1

Didn't they did something?

I just can't remember what it was.

Speaker 2

I don't know why I have that information floating in my brain, but I do know.

I remember listening to it and I was just like, what, like, it's so sad Mayhem band Mayhem.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I knew that was something like that.

Speaker 2

People are wild, Like why are you digging up people's kids and stuff?

That's so terrible.

That's terrible, But like, how do you not smell that decaying?

Speaker 1

I don't know how they were able to.

Speaker 2

Do that, Like they didn't walk into his room and go whoa, like you got a bad case of the jim like gym rot.

Speaker 1

Like No, And the other guy we were talking about in Key West, his name was Carl Tantler, and that took place back in like the nineteen forties.

That was before this guy.

My guess is this guy probably used some of the same techniques from that situation.

Speaker 2

I just can't.

I can't.

Speaker 1

He only had one girl.

He only had one girl.

She had died of tuberculosis.

Speaker 2

Oh even better, did he get tuberculosis?

Speaker 1

No, but he took She was like twenty one when she died, and he built this giant mausoleum for her, and then he would sneak into the mausoleum and he eventually took her.

He had her at his house for like seven years before her sister found out.

Speaker 2

I don't understand how people are not like, oh, look at that corpse in your house.

That's awesome.

Speaker 1

Well, nobody came in his house.

He was like a He was just a weird habit.

You know.

This was also a guy that had a you know, part of a plane in his yard.

He was trying to he was trying to bring the plane back er.

This guy was weird.

Speaker 2

Well do you hear how you said he was like waiting, like to bring these people back from the dead.

Did you hear about that aggressive mushroom that like some like a scientist ate it and they had a care for it, but it like it can make it a little zombie like if you're not careful.

I forget the name of the mushroom.

I'll have to find it and then I'll tell you about it because it's really fucked up.

Speaker 1

No, I have not heard that one.

Speaker 2

Yeah, recent mushrooms.

Yeah, it's not that old.

My husband was telling me about it.

He's like, did you care about this?

Like, no, what actually happened to someone?

A scientist like got a hold of it.

It spores like got into the air or something, and it like got into his bloodstream and s I don't know.

It was fucking wild.

Speaker 1

I don't know what.

I saw a video earlier today that said in Philadelphia, and I don't know if it's ever place, but they specifically mentioned Philadelphia that there was some kind of drug going around it was turning people basically into zombies.

Speaker 2

Not alligator is an alligator?

Speaker 1

I didn't I didn't hear what it was.

I just heard that.

I just heard him say some drug is all I heard him say.

Speaker 2

So, oh, great, zombie apocalypse will be upon us soon.

What else is next?

Speaker 1

I don't think that.

I don't think these kind of zombies you got to worry about.

I think they might be just laying around.

I don't think Yeah, I don't think they could catch you if you've walked at a steady pace.

Speaker 2

No, they like go like this when they walk.

I know, there's a chick at my dunkin Donuts that like handles coffee and she's always like this and she's always like humming and buzzing, and I'm like, what is happening.

I don't even know what her real name is.

Something's wrong.

Speaker 1

Yeah, some of these people.

You know, it's funny because like where I live, I'm about five minutes away from a bus stop, and where this bus stop is, there are a bunch of people that obviously are strung out.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's exactly.

Speaker 1

I mean, you don't have to know anything to be able to see it.

Yeah, you can look over and just pick them out that person, that person, that person.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, you know, look and act and yeah.

Speaker 1

We started off talking about you can't judge a book by its cover, but you know you can with some of that.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Yeah.

I live down the street from like a sober house.

It's like probably like a good twelve fifteen minutes away, but like in the summertime, they come out and they come around this like local common area and you can tell like who's on drugs and who's you know, alcohol, Like you can see it all.

And what kills me is this halfway house is across the street from a liquor store, and I'm.

Speaker 1

Like, it's not fifty at all.

Speaker 2

No, Like I have this severy drinking problem or drug problem and right there, it's just I don't know, Like I think they plan on moving them out of there, which they should have years ago.

But still, like, how horrible is that?

You're trying to get sober and it's like, oh.

Speaker 1

Bit, it's like putting the White Watchers right next to a McDonald's or something.

Speaker 2

Yeah, like you can't do that.

It's horrible.

But yeah, addiction is terrible.

It's really sad it is.

Speaker 1

Do we have any Turkey updates?

Speaker 2

I got nothing.

I don't know what's going on.

I don't know if he's been putting his pen or what.

But there's a rooster that does crow every day until eight am.

But the but the turkey, like I told you, was terrorizing last week, and I think he got in trouble.

I told you.

The lady that owns him walks them across the street.

She stops traffic and walks his ass over to the street, and he doesn't attack her.

It's like his mama.

Speaker 1

Interesting.

I just tell you, I've had a cool story.

Man, I've got so many good stories, Linda.

Speaker 2

Actually, wait, I have a creep.

I have a creep.

I have a creep.

Okay, there we go.

Speaker 1

That's what I was looking for.

Speaker 2

Do you remember how I told you there was some weirdo guy like in my like driveway vicinity thing.

Remember that story I told you?

Okay, well update on that mofo.

Listen.

So I'm walking my dog.

He doesn't see me.

He comes through this little I'll have to show you the video.

He comes a lot of him.

I'd take a video of him at the time.

But he comes out of this like woods portal as I like to call it.

And he was and he was casing my neighbor's house.

I watched him.

He didn't see me watching him, and I don't know how because I was like dead walked staring at him.

Me and my dog is just staring at him.

I'm like, shit, I know.

I'm in the bar and we're over there and I'm watching him and he's casing the house.

I'm like, oh really, And he went back into his little hole and I saw the neighbor and I was like, hey, like do you know you know?

And I described the guy and He's like, oh no, but my house is like locked up, I have an alarm system, blah blah blah.

Now my car got broken into at the beginning of the year, and I think I know who the culprit is.

So now, like a psychopath, I sit on my porch and I wait and I watch and I wait and I watch because next time I'm gonna be like, hey, I see you, sir, and everyone knows about it.

No, everyone knows that he was case in the house.

I sorry, now everyone and all the listeners know that he was looking for a robbery on my watch, not on my watch.

Dan from the Woods can go back.

Well, your phone story, huh, we'll be looking at on your phone.

Speaker 1

I was gonna tell a story, but you had a story instead.

Speaker 2

So no, but my story is probably not as good as your as go you have ten minutes.

Speaker 1

Well, i'll put it down now.

I was just trying to tag something on the end, but you had something now.

Speaker 2

Yeah, because that was what I'm going to keep you guys Upgate updated, updated, updated on the Keeper of the Woods.

I walked back there too.

There's nothing back there.

Speaker 1

I will tell you.

I'll tell you a little story.

I looked at I've been looking up these episodes of people who died like crazied kind of deaths.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, that was a wild.

Speaker 1

Because I'm doing a future episode on Hibbily Horror Stories, like a bonus episode on that for the sinding.

This one story is too short, so I'm not going to use it.

But this elderly couple, and I think this was I want to say this was up north, maybe maybe even h maybe even your neckative woods.

This elderly couple.

It was Easter time and for for years, I guess the woman's mother had passed away, and they went to her grave and at the cemetery every Easter and they would decorate it for Easter.

And they I guess it was a cross and they would put a rosary or a cross or something of that nature around the cross part of the headstone and they would leave it.

And that's part of that's what was their their little thing that they would do every year at Easter.

Well, they go in and I guess the husband reaches over to put the cross on it, and the headstone fell over.

This thing apparently was massive.

It fell over and crushed and killed him.

Speaker 2

Get out of here.

Speaker 1

What he was then buried like a couple of spots over from where he actually died.

Speaker 2

Oh my god, Like that is such a freak accident.

Or do you think it was pushed?

Speaker 1

Yeah, I doubt the grandma was pushing him.

But now that's I mean, that's that's just you know, like I said, it was a short one, so I wasn't gonna use it.

But that's crazy, that's wild.

Speaker 2

When it's your time to go, it's your time to go.

So they say, that's what.

Speaker 1

They say, is who's they?

Speaker 2

I don't know.

I don't know who they could be, whoever you want them to be.

Speaker 1

I don't know how needed to come with the facts on this show?

How do I what I said, I need you to come with.

Speaker 2

The facts that that's what they say.

I don't know.

You know, it's like, oh, can't put a good dog down, that's what they say, Like who is they?

I don't know.

Speaker 1

I don't even think that's what anybody says.

I don't think that's a phrase they can't put on, like you can't keep a good dog down.

Speaker 2

Can't put it whatever?

You know what I meant, The.

Speaker 1

Humane Society puts good dogs down all the time.

Speaker 2

So that's not the case the burn on the MSPCA.

Speaker 1

All right, we're out of here.

I appreciate it.

Appreciate you guys listening, and we'll be dropping on by and listen.

Speaker 2

She wants ramble, all right, goodbye,

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