Episode Transcript
Thank you everybody for joining us on this par copper episode of Magical rewind.
Speaker 2We are very excited because I'm going to say something.
Speaker 1We got a special guest and he's awesome, and we've never had a special guest that we've liked before.
I say that every time because all our guests are awesome and we're lucky to get.
Speaker 3Them get out of their time, talk about their time on the channel.
Speaker 2I'm telling you, and today is no exception whatsoever.
So if you could please.
Speaker 1Do me a favor and help me welcome Yes, star of Twas the Night, Josh Suckerman, Hello, hey, hoy, hey.
Speaker 2Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4Yes, happy to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2Of course, we're so excited to have you.
Speaker 1Were reviewing your film, and I imagine around this time of the year, hopefully you talk about it more than any of your other films, even though you've done a lot of work.
Speaker 3My gosh, your IMDb is insane.
Speaker 4Yeah, well, thank you, thank you.
It's always fun to have it scroll through.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1Well yeah, with over one hundred credits, that's that's a pretty fun IMDb page.
So before we get into your time on the Wonderful Magical Disney Channel.
Could you tell us a little bit about how you decided to become an actor?
Speaker 2Where did you start?
Speaker 4Uh?
Yeah, where did I start?
Speaker 1We jump right in, by the way, we jump right in with story instantly, no instant life story.
Speaker 2Josh, that's what.
Speaker 5We want, all right, I'll try to make it short.
Let's see, I was probably around when I first started acting.
I was probably let's say thirteen twelve or thirteen something like that, and I I had a friend who I'd never really thought about acting at all to my knowledge.
I mean, I think, like a lot of kids who loved movies and all that, but I had a friend who whose mom wanted him to get out of trouble or I don't know, keep himself occupied.
So had him auditioned for this community theater that was in northern California.
Speaker 4And so he.
Speaker 5Said he wanted somebody else to do it with him, and you know, I were soccer buddies, and you know, so I auditioned with him.
Speaker 4We both got roles.
It was the play Nicholas Nickleby, and you.
Speaker 5Know, it was really kind of a in our in our favor because I think there was like a cast of twenty kids that they just needed to run around the stage, you know, begging for porridge or something like that, and we got cast.
There were probably like ten kids showed up, but they needed twenty, so maybe I don't I don't know, you know, there you go and uh uh yeah.
So we did that and then I kept doing plays and then eventually somebody it's kind of weird.
There's a there's a place called John Casablanca's Modeling Agency.
I don't think it's in existence anymore.
Speaker 2I was gonna say it sounds like like fake and a scam.
I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 5Yes, no, I think it was.
I'm pretty sure it was a scam, and almost certainly.
I mean essentially they had this open casting.
It wasn't even a cast and call.
It was like, hey, come see this manager.
I don't want to like throw people on the bus with.
His name was Bob Nole.
Speaker 2Okay, not Bob Dole, not the political figure.
Speaker 1Bob for goal, just just your You walk in and your agent's just holding a Pengo on that.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're gonna be great.
You're gonna do a great job, like Dole is my agent.
That's weird.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, but probably just as uh, just as successful as a manager on this bob Nole guy.
I mean, it was this big conference in din there or like a you know, banquet hall at a Hyatt or something in San Francisco.
My parents wanted to go because actually at the time they were they thought that my sister would be interested in modeling or something, and he was a modeling agency.
Speaker 4But they also do acting.
Speaker 5So anyway, we stick around for this weird talk and then he said they set up an appointment for both of us to come to their office in San Francisco.
Speaker 4We go there.
Speaker 5He says, I want to represent you as a manager because I represent actors.
And then but you know, here's the scam, but I want to represent you.
Speaker 4But also, we have this.
Speaker 5Program and it's you know, I'm sure a few thousand dollars or something, and you show up and they teach you how to audition.
So I do the program and they, I think, maybe send me on a one audition.
And from that first audition it was to be if you could believe it, with game show network talk show host.
Speaker 4But again I was fourteen years old.
Yeah, so it doesn't really make sense.
I don't know what this was.
Some pilot for the Game Show Network and it did really well.
I did really well.
I guess, I don't know.
I don't know about the show.
I don't think that every so.
Speaker 5Light to day, but and they they called me back a few times.
I didn't get the part, but I did meet the casting director Joey Paul, which maybe you're familiar with Joey Paul's I Ring a Bell and Joey Paul's did a lot of In fact, she I don't think she did twas the Night.
Speaker 4I actually don't even know who wasn't I, but she may have.
I mean, she was in that world.
Speaker 5I think she did do some channel stuff, Nickelodeon stuff a lot back in the day.
Speaker 4And she introduced me to my first agent.
I had an agent.
Speaker 5I kept auditioning, and then I just kept kept I guess working, you know, one off and on.
Speaker 1So next time you started in northern California, When did you make the sojour in South.
Speaker 5Well, actually I went east first because or cal and then I'm not that far east, and we went to Colorado.
We were in Colorado and I was flying for work.
I think I did an Amanda Bynes pilot for Nickelodeon, But it was like after all that, but before whatever the other show is that she did that?
Maybe the Amanda Show as ever, Yeah, yeah, and so did that and maybe a couple other things.
Speaker 4I can't remember exactly.
I'd have to look on my IMDb.
Speaker 5Was it the Bette Midler sitcom that that was probably in there at some point?
Speaker 4Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2I love that we know your resume better than you know your resume.
Speaker 4Yes, definitely, I mean, really think back, but yeah, it was somewhere in there.
Speaker 5And eventually we moved to La uh and that was about you know, two thousand and two thousand and one.
I got my sad card in nineteen ninety nine, okay, and so yeah.
Speaker 2Well that's you.
Speaker 1We I love that you're like, Okay, which one of these shows was I on?
Speaker 2Because you've done so many.
Speaker 1One of the things that we were all so amazed about is not just the sheer number, but the names of the people.
Speaker 4That you write.
Speaker 2So, I mean you got people like that.
Speaker 1I mean just you said Amanda Biens and you've got Drew Carrey, Julia, Luis Dreyfus, usher that Midler.
I mean, it's kind of like one Brian Cranston.
I mean, it's just like one after another.
Speaker 2I mean, it's awesome people in Hollywood.
What is that?
Speaker 5I mean, it's funny.
Yeah, no, it's it's true.
It's hard to take stock of that because I guess you don't you you know, they mean names.
Well, everyone's in a different point in their career when to you work with them.
But also it's like they mean different things to you.
And I don't know, I don't really think about that that often, and I don't even know, like some relationships, it feels like, oh, I was friendly with that person, but then I never talked to them again, and I feel like, oh, why didn't you just like like, I mean, this is you know, kind of has a you know, bittersweet quality.
But I did work with James Gandolfini on that, on that Beneffleic film, and and he was very I played his son on that.
There was another Christmas movie and here I am.
I mean, the joke was that I'm like, you know, I'm half Jewish and I don't know why I'm getting all these Christmas movies.
Speaker 4I love it.
Speaker 6I love it.
Speaker 4It's really funny.
Speaker 5I mean last night we actually watched I said because I said, st Andrew my wife, I said, let's can we watch it was the Night because I've got to talk about it and I don't even remember it, and uh and we're watching it, and I was thinking, why did they cast me?
Speaker 4I mean, I look, I look so not yeah, I look so Jewish.
Speaker 5I mean it's so funny to me and so anyway, so uh, you know, but I mean, you know, Ganofini was very kind and gracious, and I remember when we wrapped, he said, you know, let's keep in touch and here's my number.
Anytime you're in New York, you know, you've got a place to stay.
And I never ever contacted you.
Speaker 1And because you're like set friends, it's a it's a weird you always it's as friend.
Speaker 2For a month and then yeah, you know, you don't see each other again.
Speaker 3Especially with you, because it seems like you were working constantly, so you were going from like one group of people to work with quickly to the next.
And you know, you're just your your life just is rolling fast.
Speaker 2And you're young.
Speaker 3You're young too, you don't I feel like that's one of the things with younger actors is you don't really get the concept of the networking aspect of acting until later on in life, and you know, it's it's just it's it's hard to navigate being so young in the industry for sure.
Speaker 4For sure, I don't recommend it.
I mean, I don't know how you guys feel about it.
Speaker 5It's like it's it can be pretty uh difficult to navigate in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3But I love that you watched it because we do ask a lot of people because I mean, so often these movies were done and so long ago, and they've they did them and they're kind of.
Speaker 2Just part of their past.
Speaker 3They haven't seen them in ten fifteen years or whatever.
So I love that you did sit down and watch them.
We've had an interview where he's like, I really don't remember.
Oh nothing, I don't remember.
I don't even remember the storyline, to be honest.
Speaker 5It were like, yeah, I mean, I guess I always try to do my homework.
Speaker 4I think that's one thing.
Speaker 5And I even when I know it's interesting, you know, I mean, as a I don't know where that it's almost feels like a work ethic thing.
And I think that a lot of young actors you know, who continue to work, they probably have that you know built into them because you know you have a responsibility.
Speaker 4You show up and I don't know.
I guess that's that's part of it.
Speaker 5I feel like, even when I I try to tell myself, even when I feel like I'm not prepared, you've already done enough to be prepared enough, like to the bear mind right, so right, I don't.
Speaker 4I just feel like the right thing to.
Speaker 1Do right, well, to watch it as you went to that first audition where you're like, I'm not sure I can give up my soccer career.
Speaker 4I wasn't that good.
Speaker 2Were you?
Were you on like the orange team?
Like when I was on soccer, it was like that kind of thing.
Speaker 4I think we were.
Yeah, we might have been the blue team, but you got something something of the like.
Speaker 5I think there was one team that a few friends, including this one friend who probably I guess got me into the business, who's not Actually he's an animator now, so I know, yeah, he's still in the business.
Speaker 6He's probably worked with Will then yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, probably probably yeah.
Speaker 5He He and a lot of my other friends were just great soccer players, and I was always trying to get on their team, and I was always on some other like you say color team, like the blue color, the green.
Speaker 4Color, and uh uh yeah.
Speaker 5I think one year they let me on after like five years of tryouts, like it almost isn't I guess a pity like the a pity admission.
And they never they never played me like I would practice, but I never got in the games.
Speaker 4And maybe there was one time it was like you know a movie where they go, you know, Zuckeran getting there and goals.
Speaker 6And then you know, it is so strange.
Speaker 3I didn't realize because I played soccer growing up, but I didn't realize until now I have kids, and my daughter's played a couple of years.
Speaker 6How many kids play soccer when.
Speaker 2They that's what you do.
Speaker 1It's because you just you're running around anyway, so somebody just throws you a ball.
Speaker 2I mean, that's basically what happens to tire you up so crazy it is.
Speaker 3I go to these games and run into so many people I know because they have their kids in soccer now, and it's like, that's.
Speaker 6Just what you do.
Speaker 3It's it's you know the middle of the summer, the registration goes out and you put your kid in soccer.
Speaker 1It's of course, all right, so you've talked about how cool James Gambalfini was.
I'm gonna throw some names at you and then we'll get it read.
We want to get into your Disney stuff.
But I've got to ask about certain people.
So what was Bette Miller like?
Speaker 4Oh, you know Bet and I I mean, I don't think that I don't even know that I ever, you.
Speaker 5Know, exchanged two words with her.
It was probably more of a group situation.
I got a sense that she was, you know, she's got middler.
She she she has a presence.
She you know, it was I think the show is called Bett, you know.
I mean, so she, you know, she ran that ship, and it was just kind of a fun to be in her presence.
I think that there was I mean, I don't know this is a but, but she she loved to rehearse, so we did, you know, it was just a sitcom, but we rehearsed and then.
Speaker 4She she went off to make up.
But she came back.
She looked like a completely different person.
Yeah, I mean, they really glammed her up.
Speaker 2How about Julia Louis Dreyfus, who's one of my favorites.
Speaker 5Uh, she was very, very kind.
I did have a little bit of an interaction with her on whatever, that show with the geppetto d the week that we did geppetto.
Speaker 2To tell you about.
Speaker 4Guess it's the same many lines, you know, the dialogue.
Over the years, you forget, well, you've.
Speaker 2Been in hundreds of things, literally hundreds.
Speaker 6Of things, and you weren't prepared for the quiz.
Speaker 2The night.
Speaker 1I was gonna say, we're going to talk about bet first, We're gonna we're gonna go through the entire pilot, start strong.
Speaker 4The short lived a little known show called where I don't know.
Yeah, let's see you.
Speaker 5No.
No, she was very very kind, let's go with kind, personal, funny, charming, very very sweet.
Speaker 4I think I had a little bit of a crush on her.
Speaker 5I always thought that, you know, she was she was I always I guess I had a crush on her as a lane probably you know, it's like she's she's just adorable, She's so funny.
Speaker 3Do you have anyone that you worked with that you really felt like you learned a ton from, Like someone that you somewhat either like you said, looked up to, or you know that you remember being a young actor feeling like, yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 5That's a good question as a young that probably I'll probably be able to answer.
The question is remind me of what I actually worked?
Speaker 2Well, should we jump to Lions for Lambs?
Speaker 4Then?
Oh, Lions for Lambs?
Sure?
Sure, you know, I probably could.
I could probably try to answer that question.
Speaker 5And I don't know if I'll have an answer, but if everything you mentioned, I'll try to think of something that I actually learned from that project.
Speaker 4Maybe that's a Lions for Lambs.
Well, you know, that's another bit of sweet.
But I had Actually what's strange.
Speaker 5About this is, I'll give you this is a little backstort of lines flums.
I had written down.
You know, I'm just in my twenties, and I was probably The Secret had just come out or something.
You remember that thing, The Secret There was like a documentary and a book about how you can visualize something and make it.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was living in a self help.
Speaker 4He told Yeah, So I think I wrote down there's also that visualistic I wrote down, I want to be in a Robert Redford directed movie.
Speaker 2I start.
Speaker 4I wrote down, and like like within twelve months, six months, I don't know how long.
Speaker 5It was short period of time relatively, I got an audition for Lions for Lambs and now it wasn't for a big rolls for They was like they were just casting a few name kids who had a few lines.
And I got it and I thought, oh my gosh, what a and I was a dream come true.
Robert Redford.
What I learned from that is he yelled at me to be louder.
Not he didn't yell at me like in any kind of extremely.
He just yelled from behind like a video village.
Speaker 2Uh yelled louder.
Speaker 5And so that's what I remember from that is Robert Redford telling me to be louder.
Speaker 4So I wasn't enunciating.
Speaker 2I was like, you know, hey, you were directed by Robert Redford.
Speaker 4I was, yes, right, one more direction.
Speaker 2But yeah, that's sick though.
Speaker 1Wait is it's Robert Redford, Meryl Street, Tom Cruise, Michael Pena, Andrew Garfield, Peter Berg, Kevin de Right.
Speaker 3Yeah, wow, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, you might have worked with more cool people than anybody we've interviewed so far.
Speaker 4He really is.
Speaker 2I mean, well you jump from there.
Speaker 1I mean I don't know who you've enternew but were you an oppenheimer?
Speaker 2I wasn't hitting of course you're an Oppenheim.
I mean, my god.
Speaker 1So you were directed by Christopher Nolan, You're directed by Robert Redford, and then you also were directed by Mike Myers from Halloween, which we'll get into.
Speaker 4You know, Mike Myers from all Yeah, what do you?
What do you mean?
Speaker 1You know the guy who directed Twas the Night was the ouster who played Michael Myers.
Speaker 5That's right, that's right, Yeah, I forgot.
I also want to say that is pretty amazing.
Like Nick Castle is an interesting guy and we will talk about that.
But Castle, it was just I was thinking back and he was such a joy to work with him, just a sweet personal guy.
But yeah, he also directed a film from the eighties thing.
It was like nineteen eighty four that I watched after I booked the role.
Speaker 4Probably please tell.
Speaker 2Me it was the Last Starfighter.
Yes, it's just the greatest movie of all time.
Speaker 1And if you want me to get into the outfit and do the entire movie line by line right now, I can.
Speaker 2Oh so oh yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 4Yea.
Speaker 2Josh Well.
Speaker 1I was born in nineteen seventy six, so I was eight years old when the movie came out.
It was it was made for me and I used to just watch it on a loop, so it was so Yeah, it's a phenomenal film.
Speaker 4It's crazy to me that he and I haven't seen it years, but I do remember being amazing.
Speaker 5It's crazy to me that he I mean, I don't know.
I mean, no judgment, but it didn't have like a batter career after that.
It was such a great movie.
And I think he also like story by or covid of Hook?
Speaker 2Is that right?
Speaker 4Nick?
Speaker 2He wasn't.
He was a co writer of Hook.
He's had next.
Speaker 1To you, He's had one of the coolest careers of anybody we've talked about on this show.
Speaker 2I mean, he really you go through his backstory.
Speaker 1It's like, Oh, you played Michael Myers, Oh you co wrote Hook, Oh you directed the Last star Fight.
Speaker 2I mean, like really cool stuff backwards and forwards.
Speaker 3Did you know?
Speaker 2Did you so?
Speaker 3But did you know he was Mike Myers and Halloween when you worked with him?
Speaker 4I don't think I did.
But I don't know if I had seen Halloween.
Speaker 6Because that would have freaked me out a little bit.
Speaker 3I think I would have got a few times at least on set, like looking at him like.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's wearing.
He's in the whole outfit.
Speaker 1He's wearing the mask the entire time he's directing, and he's just sitting there staring at you like and just pointing at places instead of a perfect.
Speaker 4Christmas movie, totally a Halloween movie and dressed up.
That might be a good tactic.
Speaker 2That's not bad.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1All right, So we we do need to talk about getting onto the channel.
So first of all, we always like to ask before you joined the Disney machine, the juggernaut that is Disney, were you a fan of Disney Channel?
Were you watching the d coms or any of that kind of stuff or no, I don't think.
Speaker 4So I know what was on Disney Channel.
Speaker 1I don't know what was well back in the day you would have been there for probably the Brink Xenon Xenon and Johnny Tsunami.
Speaker 2Luck of the Irish Smart House.
Speaker 4This is really offensive that I don't know that.
Speaker 3Because a lot of times, when you know, like for me, with me, I grew up watching the channel.
So when I was going to the auditions, those were the auditions that I, you know, really was wanting to because I wanted to be on the channel.
I love watching all the shows, and I knew that it was a good stepping stone into a bigger.
Speaker 6Career and things like that.
Speaker 3So it's always interesting when we have people that end up being on the channel, knowing whether or not that was kind of their journey.
Speaker 6Or if they were.
Speaker 3There's so many deep people that like they didn't even have the Disney Channel at all, because you had to have right that, Yeah, for a long time, you had to like have a separate Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4I mean I guess, yeah, I mean I didn't.
I don't think I watched di Cy channel.
Speaker 5I think mostly it was I was actually talking to I mentioned this my mom because I took her to movie and it was like, you know, I don't know, fifty bucks for the two of us or something like that, and I said maybe it was like, yes.
Speaker 2My wife and I went last week.
It was eighty dollars for two tickets of popcorn.
Eighty dollars.
Yeah, don't get me starting.
Speaker 5I mean, yeah, so, I but I remember we used to go every you know, every weekend and just see whatever was there, and that was what we That was the entertainment.
Speaker 4And now you know, a little more TV centric you know.
Speaker 5Uh so I don't remember watching Disney Channel so much, but I do remember auditioning for it a bunch, okay, because that's where kids you know, if you're a young kid, that's where you fit, right.
It's like that's the most of what's.
Speaker 6Going on there.
Yeah, creating the most opportunities for kids.
Speaker 5Yeah, I mean there was, I really I got there was a show, Even Stevens, that's what it was.
Speaker 4Yeah, I don't I was up before.
Speaker 5I don't remember that was before or after?
Twasn't I because it wasn't.
I came on two thousand and one.
Speaker 1I guess Even Stevens I think was before that.
Yeah, okay, Kim Possible, which started in two thousand and three, so that was after.
Speaker 2My guess is yeah, I think even Steve was like lately ninety.
Yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, so I.
Speaker 5May have made some fans there because I was up for Even Stevens.
Speaker 4You know, they had and this was back.
Speaker 5I mean, everything's different now, but I mean I remember probably and I don't think I'm exaggerating seven callbacks for Even Stevens.
Speaker 4So we just kept going back.
It was that same building in down in the rank, the DIY Channel building.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, still there, still there, still there, that's not the top floor is not where they have auditions anymore though, now I don't okay, yeah.
Speaker 4But they still have them in that building.
Speaker 1Oh sure, yeah I think yeah, but yeah, yeah exactly when they have auditions in person.
Speaker 3Bring them in.
Speaker 1Yeah's elevators with theater, kids up and down the thing.
Speaker 2You can tell.
Speaker 3Yes, so you were in line obviously for Shila's role.
I'm sure right.
You guys were the same age ish Yeah, how crazy, so they know they remembered you definitely, Judy.
Speaker 4Uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3It was the casting director and she was great.
She would always That was one thing, because that's the thing too.
So many kids go on a bunch of auditions and you might not be right for that role, but then something else comes along and they remember you and they're like, oh, we got to get this person back in to read for this, like they'd be great.
Speaker 4So yeah, sure, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 5It's very familiar with that building and so many I mean, I haven't been back there probably and I don't know, at least two decades or something, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3When you when you get the when you find out you you made it, were you able to find out the rest of the cast you think, or did you just meet them for the first time on your first table read or which was the night Yeah for twelve?
Speaker 5Yeah, I think my guess is that recall, but I think that Brian Crest was probably already cast okay, and so probably said that I didn't meet but I didn't meet anyone.
It wasn't like I did a chemistry read or anything.
I'm pretty positive I meant everyone.
And I think we filmed in Yeah, we definitely filmed in Toronto, okay, and I met everyone and like wherever that you know they put everyone in the Suddon plays Yeah, probably, yeah, Yeah, probably had a table readed and that's where I met everyone and including you know, I may have auditioned with Nick Castle, though I may have the director, I think, Yeah, I think that he probably was in the room and I auditioned.
Speaker 6I'm playing audition eleven yeah eleven.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 5Yeah, how they decided, I don't know how they just said any of these things, but yeah, wow.
Speaker 2So what was what was the shooting process like?
Did it was it a smooth shoot?
Was it a little bit difficult?
What was it like?
Speaker 4Yeah?
Speaker 5It was probably quick.
I wish I remembered more.
I thought maybe this, you know, sparked my memory to watch it.
I do remember something, although I was, I was blown away that there were scenes that I have no recollection of.
Speaker 4Filming at all.
Speaker 5Really yeah, I mean there's a scene at the end of a climactic scene where these the guys show up with the guys who've been chasing Uncle Nick Brian Clinton's character the entire time.
They show up in our driveway and we have a whole scene with them and I and I, you know, tell them the what have you?
Speaker 4And I have no recollect for that.
Speaker 5I don't really see at all.
Yeah, but uh yeah, it was pretty smooth.
I think that like half of my of my filming was on a green screen, in this big stage of green screen on that sleigh with with Brian.
Speaker 2Wait, that wasn't a real you guys weren't flying a real sleigh.
Come on, I know it looks really believable.
What but yeah, you're really magic.
You're killing me.
Speaker 4Sorry to break the hard truth deal, but yeah, it was.
You know, it was funny rewatching that last night is that they put either a blue or a black beanie on my.
Speaker 5Head, but they made the sky and black, and so it looks like half my head's missing, and I don't know why anybody noticed that.
They like, they put me a yellow jacket, like, okay, that's a little real, looks like a rain jacket.
Speaker 4But I guess at least it pops out.
Speaker 5But then they decided they obviously thought about contrast, but now I'm gonna came to my head.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Well, my other question is, was there any any pushback on the just having the actors freeze as opposed to actually freezing.
Speaker 4That's a great question because not all all freeze acting great and equal.
Speaker 2Correct, there's a lot of correct, there's a.
Speaker 4Lot of shaking.
I know why they didn't just nobody else in the shot, just like Juste.
Speaker 2I was literally yelling at my screen like you're not freezing.
Speaker 3I just can't imagine how many takes it took to even get what was ending up in the actual because it looked I can't even for me, I'm thinking, like.
Speaker 6Can I even do that?
Speaker 2And like, I don't.
Speaker 3I don't think I've ever had to sit still like that ever, let alone on the camera.
Speaker 4Yeah.
And you know, and the other thing is there's this one scene where he's stealing.
Speaker 5From and by the way, what a despicable character.
Bran like essentially the protagonist.
I mean, he has the transformation, but uh he pulls an automan out from underneath a guy.
Speaker 4That poor guy, he takes a dif from that.
Speaker 5He's just like he's got as you know, continue to levitate his feet like that.
Yes, really really amazing.
Yeah, No, I don't remember a lot of pushback.
I mean I would probably would never have.
I mean maybe Brian would have said, you know, we probably don't need to.
But even he was so easy going that it's from what I recall that I don't think he It's really remarkable that he did that movie.
Speaker 3Right what I literally screamed, because we don't are Will and I try not to look into any of the movies, especially when it's a d coom that neither of us has seen.
So just watch it for the first time.
Just seeing everything when he came on screen, I was like, hey, but I'm like having my Will come decon crazy, Like it was unbelievable that he did it.
Speaker 6But what a great role, and.
Speaker 3Man, he was awesome in it.
He took this character to the nine.
It was amazing.
Speaker 4He had a lot of fun.
Speaker 5I mean, it's strange and that.
Yeah, I mean I think he was doing he had already done Malcolm in the Middle, who he was like a year or two in Malcolm in the Middle.
So that's what I think I knew him from at the time.
And I'm sure he had already I guess he had.
You know, there was a whole story that he did that one episode of X Files and that's what got him breaking back kind of thing.
And I'm sure you must have already done that.
So it's just interesting to see him be so goofy, which.
Speaker 4He wasn't Malcolm in the Middle as well, sure.
Speaker 5In this movie and and and I would love to know what he thinks about it now, like does he does he think about it?
Speaker 4And go, oh, I can't.
I hope nobody knows I did that.
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 2My guess is like because again he was in things like uh, Power Rangers as Zordan.
Speaker 4Oh wow, so yeah, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1So yeah, So I mean there's I think he's one of those guys.
It's like a screw and I'm gonna go have some fun.
Yeah, I'm gonna go to a Disney movie and I'll be great in it.
It'll be it'll be a fun time like that.
Nobody's gonna take it all that seriously.
He probably digs do it because I have to imagine by season five of Breaking Bad, it's got to be like weighing on your soul where he's like, man, I wish I could play Santa again.
You know how fun that would be to just I don't want to cook meth today?
Can we just play Santa Claus at least give me kill anyone?
Speaker 4Yeah?
Speaker 1Do you ever now back in the day, I could see it happening, Uh quite a bit.
But to this day, does anybody recognize you from Twas the Night?
Speaker 2Does anybody come up.
Speaker 1To you ever and they're like, hey, you were you were the guy in the Disney my favorite decon?
Speaker 4But you know, I don't.
I don't think so.
I think that.
Speaker 5Uh, I don't think that's I don't even know if that happened at the time.
I mean, I have no concept of whether I guess people still watch that movie or they did for a period of time.
I mean, because you know they play them over and over again.
Speaker 3Yeah right, oh yeah, that's what I would assume, is I mean, the only part about this is being a Christmas movie.
It didn't get the replay probably as others because it wasn't.
Speaker 2All year round but Christmas.
It became at Yeah.
Speaker 6They it became a staple.
It was such a good movie.
Speaker 3So I feel like, you know, and now the resurgence have you felt have you not felt that at all as far as like this now being on Disney Plus and like available for like more of a fan base to actually see you.
Speaker 4I don't.
I don't think so, I don't think.
Speaker 5I mean, I you know, and I don't know if anyone would really put it together that this space is that face.
Speaker 4I don't know.
It feels like, you know, a lot more certainly a lot more youthful.
Speaker 2And I don't know, Well, what do you do you get recognized for.
Speaker 1The most.
Speaker 5It depends who's historically, probably in its time, not into.
Speaker 1A O okay and maybe still not onto and O more than sex drive.
Speaker 4Sex drive happens occasionally.
Yeah, sure, And I'm trying to think.
Speaker 3Your wife would probably know the answer to this, because she's always like, right, y, yes, it's him.
Speaker 5I mean, you know, as funny as that, you know, my wife was on Desperate Housewise for years and years and uh and she especially there are certain European countries that some shows are really you know, popular in and so Desperate Housewise was very popular.
I don't even know where, but somewhere in Europe in a few different countries, and I think friends particularly, and so when whenever we're over there, and we've been over there together a couple of times, she gets recognized all the time.
But I'll be standing, I was also in Desperate Desperate Housewise, and I actually like start my storyline as I strangled her, you know, and I was strangling all these people, but they all they're like, could you could you take the picture?
And I'm like, well, you know, I was also that's but you know, it's it's and it happens all the time for her.
She's she's actually doing a podcast on iHeart about about this rasis.
Speaker 6Like I rewatched one.
Speaker 1Yeah, so we are Heart we are iHeart Brethren, which is which.
Speaker 5Is yeah, when I said, you guys reached out and she said, wait, I wonder if it's the same, if it's the same team or I don't know if she yeah.
Speaker 6There's a lot of crossover there.
That's awesome, how fun.
Speaker 4But yeah, one time.
Speaker 5I was walking down the street and you would never think you would be recognized from but this is pretty funny.
I played a character based on a real character named Rossi Lomanitz in Oppenheimer and and then in the film I'm addressed as Lman.
It's about the last name.
And I was walking down the street in Burbank and I don't know what.
I was probably talking to myself, is your want to do?
And and just thinking about life or something probably more likely like rehearsing dialogues to me.
And somebody came out their front door and stared at me.
I mean just walked out their front door like they'd seen me walk by.
They came out and and I and I noticed someone staring at me.
And I looked back and he said and he said, are you are you?
I said, hire you?
Speaker 4Are you?
Are you?
Are you Lominus?
I said, what is its?
Limus?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 5I thought that was pretty wild because you know, it's a big cast and it's not like it's one movie and and everybody kind of looks the same.
It's a bunch of you know, white scientists and uh and and he knew the character, and it was just really I thought it was a very fun, fun way.
Speaker 4To get recognized, Like, you know, no idea who I was, but yeah, oh.
Speaker 1God, that well we just heard, by the way, from one of our producers.
I covered his wife's podcast on Wednesday in person and met her, and my mind.
Speaker 2Is totally blown.
Had no idea that that was his Oh my god, currently she's she's not only pregnant, but very pregnant.
Is that what we hear?
Speaker 4She's very pregnant.
Yeah, we're I mean I might have to leave this zoom.
Speaker 6Oh gosh, like babe, it's time.
Speaker 4Yeah, we've got the bag by the front door.
Speaker 1And yeah, is Loman it's one of the possible names for the child.
Speaker 2A kind of cool.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean, you'd have a very long list of options if you did want to go after one of your old characters that you play.
Speaker 5Sure you go through that.
It's not a bad place to start, you know.
No, Yes, it is so hard to think of names, you know.
Speaker 3It's probably one of things.
I didn't have a name for my second my son until he was eight maybe, like you know, until like a month before actually having him.
I could not find a name that my husband liked to I didn't.
Speaker 6It's so hard.
Speaker 4It's so, what's the responsibility?
Speaker 5A lot of names are great as a kid, but you go they age well with the kid, and you.
Speaker 2Know you're gonna think what the nickname is going to be.
That's very important because that's going to be a thing.
Sure, yes, really, like.
Speaker 3There's a lot of names, but that are kind of trendy and you don't really want to pick one that like there's going to be five of him in every grade he's in, you know, like you there's three of them, and that's go buy his last yeather.
Speaker 5Like you know, and you don't want a random name that she's like, it's like why that name?
I mean, you know, you guys aren't Spanish, and you know, you know, is that weird?
Speaker 4Is that appropriate?
Speaker 6I mean, but that's a huge responsibility.
Speaker 3I mean some people do go back and change it later or Okay, we are being asked to by our producers.
Speaker 2No, yeah, to.
Speaker 3Give a little bit of tea from School Spirit season three?
Speaker 5Maybe sure, yeah the tea.
Look, I love this show School Spirits.
What's great about the show is I think that it changes every season and yet it it maintains its character.
Speaker 4And what's great about it.
Speaker 5I think somebody, somebody said, we just finished season three.
Speaker 4It will be out next year.
Speaker 5And somebody said that the first season was kind of a murder mystery, and the second season, which I can say is because it's already you know, it's already been released.
Speaker 4Was.
Speaker 5More of a like a sci fi of a sci fi show.
And I think it's fair to say that I can tease that the third season is more of a like a haunted film, more of a horror.
Okay, it's funny if you think about it, and that it makes a lot of sense, and uh and and it's and it's really fun the way you could take advantage of those different even the way the story is told, the tropes and the way it's shot, and and everybody's great.
Speaker 4The writing is great.
Speaker 5The cast is just really not only so talented, but just there's not a yeah what they say, like a rotten raisin in the bushel.
Speaker 2I don't know, I don't think anybody that's a thing, that's not a thing.
Speaker 4You get it.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, there you go, and uh uh and and so yeah, that would be my my teas because I don't know, I don't know what else I could say that's not gonna give a bunch of stuff away, you know.
Speaker 4Right people?
Speaker 3You know, can you say who's in it?
Is Milo still in the show?
Speaker 4Milo's still in the show?
Yeah, Peyden's Peyton's there.
Yeah, all the hits are there.
And and we added Jennifer Chilli this she is very exciting.
Yeah, and she is.
She is so delightful.
Yeah, she is.
She's so funny.
I really am a big Jennifer Tilli fan.
Speaker 5I mean I was already a fan of just a fan of her work, but you know, meaning or she's she's just someone you'd want to have over for dinner all the time.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 1Now, what what kind of You've obviously gone almost full circle, or I guess it wouldn't be full circle, it would just be a dead straight line.
Speaker 2I don't know what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1But you've gone from being a child actor to growing up in the industry and now you're playing you're an adult actor with younger actors on the show.
Is there any wisdom you're in parting to them as you're going because it's kind of like, obviously the business is completely different than it was when we were coming up, but it's still you've kind of been there done that is there?
Speaker 2Do they look to you as kind of a mentor.
Speaker 5I think there's a little bit of that baked in and maybe more in the first season.
And then as they got to know me, they go, oh, this guy is.
Speaker 2Knowing that that's a alarness.
You become an adult.
It's like, oh, god, adults.
So any idea what they're doing at all for the.
Speaker 4First season, but the first season illusion was there.
Speaker 5Yeah, But you know, I mean, things will come along, like you know, so you'll get a job or something and I'll you know, I'll throw in my two cents or something.
Speaker 4Somebody asked the questions.
Speaker 5But you know, I think that there's a degree of respect just because they're respectful people.
Not that I'm asking for anything like that, but they go like, hey, you're an older act.
You've done a lot of stuff and and uh and then and that's very sweet.
Speaker 3I would imagine too, because the industry is so different, Like if I were to be working with a lot of the younger kids, I would.
Speaker 6Be asking them like, hey, could you help me with.
Speaker 3This like Instagram like real or I don't know a thing about TikTok, like you know what I mean, I feel like teaching also teaching the older generation a little bit of the changes and how different it is, how how they're able to connect with their fans so much more than than we were, you know back, especially during you know, your time, like on the channel, it's like you basically just go home and wait for.
Speaker 6The good air.
Speaker 2That's how it should be.
Speaker 6Yes, it's so right now you have to.
Speaker 3I mean, but the way that we just actually talked to another channel star's mom, like and she's you know, in the industry herself, and she's had to navigate her son who's now really big on the channel, and she was saying that the channel, Disney Channel.
Speaker 6Actually gives the kids classes.
Speaker 3And like was like, helps teach them how to navigate this new form of you know obviously social media and all that stuff, and gave them a lot of tips, which I was like, that's what makes Disney Channel so great for your kid to be on, like to be a young actor on the channel.
Is they really take care of their actors and helping them help guide them, which I thought was really an interesting tidbit to find out.
Speaker 5Yes, that's very nice.
They also include some classes on like how to do your.
Speaker 4Taxes or like, you know that would also be help.
Speaker 2School is the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4I know, it's bizarre that they did.
Speaker 2In school, isn't it.
Speaker 4But but no, you bring up a really good point.
Speaker 5I mean, I do think that there's something about that that there are times where I certainly ask them, like, I don't know how to do this thing.
You know, the network wants us to promote this, but I'm not even sure what this button does and I don't know.
I don't do that, like how do I create multiple But they also are so it's like they know.
Maybe I think they just know more because there was so many cautionary like I mean, actual cautionary tales are so much more about being a child.
So when so the newer generation, when they are younger actors, and I wouldn't call these, you know, our cast child.
Speaker 2Child actors, you to younger actors.
Speaker 5I do think that there's been so much, uh so much light has been shed on on the pitfalls of that and the ways in which people can be you know, taking advantage of in this industry, or or the way they can be psychologically tortured, and and so I think that they have a lot more support and there's a lot more levity and and so I think i'd like to think and it seems from our castid that they really have a good way of saying is like they have a good head on their shoulders.
Speaker 4You know.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think there's a weird it's it's it's strange nowadays where I think in the industry itself, it's safer to be a child actor in the rest of the world.
Speaker 2Now it's not because of social media.
Speaker 1So and it used to be the other way around, where it was like it was the industry that was the dangerous part, and just being in the world was pretty safe.
Speaker 2Now it's kind of the other way.
It's flopped.
Speaker 4It's very fair.
That's the sound bite for this.
Speaker 1All right, So wait, I have I have two final questions for you.
The first one is if they come to you and say we want to do twas the Night to yes, you did?
You?
Speaker 2Would you would do it?
Speaker 6Do it?
Speaker 5I mean yeah, yeah, well, I mean yes, of course, on board?
Speaker 4Okay, yeah, I'm on board.
I'm I'm on board.
Speaker 5I mean why not?
You know, it's the people demanded.
Who are we to deny the people what they.
Speaker 1Are?
Speaker 6Where would you think now?
Speaker 3And I love that you just recently watched it, So where would you think that your character would maybe be at this many years later?
Speaker 4Oh, that's a great question.
Speaker 2Did I figure out he's Jewish?
Uncle?
Speaker 6Didn't realize he was Jewish the whole time?
I really had no business playing Santa.
Speaker 5Yes, Interior Kitchen day opens up email from you know twenty three and me love Smith's music playing in the background, you know, right as soon as he sees he's.
Speaker 4The phone, rings and brass and his uncle.
Nay, I love it.
Speaker 2I love it great.
That's gay.
Speaker 1Yeah, Okay, So then my other my this, and this is kind of it's not a mean question, but it's difficult.
I love putting people on the spot, and it's going to be way more difficult for you than anybody else because you have an incredible resume.
But what's your favorite project that you've ever worked on?
Speaker 6It can't be this podcast.
Absolutely, we'd love to be a part of it.
Speaker 4Okay.
Speaker 5You know, I have a real soft spot in my heart for for Sex Drive.
Speaker 4It was, it was.
Speaker 5It was such a a memorable experience for me in a lot of ways.
It was very it was it was very challenging, it was it was rewarding in a way, and I'm proud of it.
I haven't seen that in a long time, and I'm proud of a lot of it.
Speaker 4And uh, it was just it just felt like, uh, you know, it's just a great experience I had.
Speaker 5I learned kind of how to even though I guess I kind of learned how to be a lead of something or that kind of responsibility.
Sure, And I learned how to have a more to kind of have more of a voice on set and to throw ideas out or asked to have a conversation about something or just to be involved in that conversation.
And uh and and and yeah, it was it was difficult to navigate.
It was definitely a lot of and but it was counting.
It was a really good experience.
Speaker 2That's cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, being number one on the call sheet, there's it's it's fun.
Speaker 2But it brings responsibility with it.
It definitely does.
Speaker 4Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2Well, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1Congratulations on everything that's hopefully going to happen very soon.
Speaker 2We're not going to Yes, congratulations your first it is so congratulations.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 5Yeah, we're you know, trying to get sleep, as they say, But you know, even yeah, it seems difficult in advance and heard different reasons.
Speaker 4For me, I'm just you know, nervous and excited, but of course.
Speaker 2But I mean, look at it this way.
Speaker 1In just eighteen short years, you're gonna have somethingy that's gonna resent you.
Speaker 2And that's really amazing.
Speaker 1Really, you can tell I don't have children, Josh, It's gonna be so magical.
Speaker 6It's crazy.
You'll realize too.
Speaker 3One of my favorite things, like looking throughout with my kids is the moments that you're in you're like, oh, we especially the first one you're like, oh, this is my favorite age.
And then they start to do other things like whether it's you know, sit up on their own or they start talking a little bit or whatever, and they're like, oh, this is my favorite stage.
And then you get to the next part and you're.
Speaker 6Like, no, this is my favorite.
Speaker 3It's so crazy how you just like you really are able to embrace watching a little baby that you made start doing such awesome stuff and it really is just such a magical journey and you're gonna love it.
Speaker 6You're gonna love it.
Speaker 1Will.
Speaker 6Will don't say anything, Skip.
Speaker 2I skipped right to being a grandfather.
Speaker 1So you just stepdaughter and my first grandchild, so I get to I got to be the uncle right to grandfather.
Speaker 2It is a great in the world.
Speaker 1So yeah, well, thank you for joining us again, and yes we hopefully will be back for twas the Night too, because we really want to see it.
Speaker 5So well, you guys you get I'm just saying you get the first look.
When when that's done, yeah, we can get in writing if you want.
Speaker 1All right, Thank you so much, Josh, Thank you, Josh, you too.
Speaker 2Bye bye.
Speaker 6By man, it really is crazy to look at all.
Speaker 3I mean, we didn't even.
Speaker 2Know, we didn't touch on it.
I'm like nine of the stuff that.
Speaker 6The like casts that he's been a part of.
Speaker 1I mean, can I also tell you something that I so relate to this in a way to where it's like he's I mean, obviously not to the extent that he has, but it's I mean, he was in Oppenheimer.
He was directed by Robert Redford.
And you ask him what is his favorite thing was, and he says sex drive And it's because there are you do projects where you are number one of the call sheet.
Maybe the movie bombs For me, it was called Trojan War, which is it's a sex movie.
It's a sex comedy the same way that I'm sure sex Drive is.
And so you have these things though where you're like the lead and it's about you and you're in almost every scene.
It's just a different experience all the way around, and it doesn't becomes it's something that becomes precious.
Speaker 3I mean, I love that he said he felt like he had a voice on yeah, on set and had a little bit of leverage to make decisions and stuff, and.
Speaker 2That's tiber pushed to the back.
It's so weird to make.
Speaker 3Right, I know, but it's so great when you find like a backing.
You know, your executive producer and your directors are allowing you to feel that out too.
You know.
That's always so something that really affects you as an actor, of being given that opportunity by by somebody you really you know, look look up to.
Speaker 2Which is cool, it's awesome.
Well, thank you everybody for joining us, and thank you Josh for joining us.
I know he's probably just he's like, I got my shoes, I got my shoes on all the time.
But thank you everybody, and join us next time over.
Speaker 1There on the other little feed there, because we are going to be watching a brand new movie, which is something we have never done before.
Speaker 2Yes, we are watching those Joe brows.
Speaker 1And I think it's called Christmas with the Jonas Brothers or Jonas Brothers Christmas How the Brinch Stole the Jonas Brothers.
Speaker 2I don't know the exact name.
I'm excited.
Speaker 1I'm excited if I am half as good as the first camp rock them in, so come on, this is it'll be great.
Speaker 3So it will be so cool to watch them act years after.
Speaker 1It looks like it's a very Jonas Christmas.
It's called it looks like it's actually going to be a funny movie.
They've got a ton of really cool cameos in it.
Speaker 4So I'm in.
Speaker 2I can't wait.
Yes, thank you everybody, and we will see you next time.
Bye bye,
