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Starring Josh Zuckerman as Danny Wrigley in “’Twas the Night”

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Speaker 1

Thank you everybody for joining us on this par copper episode of Magical rewind.

Speaker 2

We are very excited because I'm going to say something.

Speaker 1

We got a special guest and he's awesome, and we've never had a special guest that we've liked before.

I say that every time because all our guests are awesome and we're lucky to get.

Speaker 3

Them get out of their time, talk about their time on the channel.

Speaker 2

I'm telling you, and today is no exception whatsoever.

So if you could please.

Speaker 1

Do me a favor and help me welcome Yes, star of Twas the Night, Josh Suckerman, Hello, hey, hoy, hey.

Speaker 2

Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 4

Yes, happy to be here.

Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2

Of course, we're so excited to have you.

Speaker 1

Were reviewing your film, and I imagine around this time of the year, hopefully you talk about it more than any of your other films, even though you've done a lot of work.

Speaker 3

My gosh, your IMDb is insane.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well, thank you, thank you.

It's always fun to have it scroll through.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 1

Well yeah, with over one hundred credits, that's that's a pretty fun IMDb page.

So before we get into your time on the Wonderful Magical Disney Channel.

Could you tell us a little bit about how you decided to become an actor?

Speaker 2

Where did you start?

Speaker 4

Uh?

Yeah, where did I start?

Speaker 1

We jump right in, by the way, we jump right in with story instantly, no instant life story.

Speaker 2

Josh, that's what.

Speaker 5

We want, all right, I'll try to make it short.

Let's see, I was probably around when I first started acting.

I was probably let's say thirteen twelve or thirteen something like that, and I I had a friend who I'd never really thought about acting at all to my knowledge.

I mean, I think, like a lot of kids who loved movies and all that, but I had a friend who whose mom wanted him to get out of trouble or I don't know, keep himself occupied.

So had him auditioned for this community theater that was in northern California.

Speaker 4

And so he.

Speaker 5

Said he wanted somebody else to do it with him, and you know, I were soccer buddies, and you know, so I auditioned with him.

Speaker 4

We both got roles.

It was the play Nicholas Nickleby, and you.

Speaker 5

Know, it was really kind of a in our in our favor because I think there was like a cast of twenty kids that they just needed to run around the stage, you know, begging for porridge or something like that, and we got cast.

There were probably like ten kids showed up, but they needed twenty, so maybe I don't I don't know, you know, there you go and uh uh yeah.

So we did that and then I kept doing plays and then eventually somebody it's kind of weird.

There's a there's a place called John Casablanca's Modeling Agency.

I don't think it's in existence anymore.

Speaker 2

I was gonna say it sounds like like fake and a scam.

I gotta be honest with you.

Speaker 5

Yes, no, I think it was.

I'm pretty sure it was a scam, and almost certainly.

I mean essentially they had this open casting.

It wasn't even a cast and call.

It was like, hey, come see this manager.

I don't want to like throw people on the bus with.

His name was Bob Nole.

Speaker 2

Okay, not Bob Dole, not the political figure.

Speaker 1

Bob for goal, just just your You walk in and your agent's just holding a Pengo on that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you're gonna be great.

You're gonna do a great job, like Dole is my agent.

That's weird.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, but probably just as uh, just as successful as a manager on this bob Nole guy.

I mean, it was this big conference in din there or like a you know, banquet hall at a Hyatt or something in San Francisco.

My parents wanted to go because actually at the time they were they thought that my sister would be interested in modeling or something, and he was a modeling agency.

Speaker 4

But they also do acting.

Speaker 5

So anyway, we stick around for this weird talk and then he said they set up an appointment for both of us to come to their office in San Francisco.

Speaker 4

We go there.

Speaker 5

He says, I want to represent you as a manager because I represent actors.

And then but you know, here's the scam, but I want to represent you.

Speaker 4

But also, we have this.

Speaker 5

Program and it's you know, I'm sure a few thousand dollars or something, and you show up and they teach you how to audition.

So I do the program and they, I think, maybe send me on a one audition.

And from that first audition it was to be if you could believe it, with game show network talk show host.

Speaker 4

But again I was fourteen years old.

Yeah, so it doesn't really make sense.

I don't know what this was.

Some pilot for the Game Show Network and it did really well.

I did really well.

I guess, I don't know.

I don't know about the show.

I don't think that every so.

Speaker 5

Light to day, but and they they called me back a few times.

I didn't get the part, but I did meet the casting director Joey Paul, which maybe you're familiar with Joey Paul's I Ring a Bell and Joey Paul's did a lot of In fact, she I don't think she did twas the Night.

Speaker 4

I actually don't even know who wasn't I, but she may have.

I mean, she was in that world.

Speaker 5

I think she did do some channel stuff, Nickelodeon stuff a lot back in the day.

Speaker 4

And she introduced me to my first agent.

I had an agent.

Speaker 5

I kept auditioning, and then I just kept kept I guess working, you know, one off and on.

Speaker 1

So next time you started in northern California, When did you make the sojour in South.

Speaker 5

Well, actually I went east first because or cal and then I'm not that far east, and we went to Colorado.

We were in Colorado and I was flying for work.

I think I did an Amanda Bynes pilot for Nickelodeon, But it was like after all that, but before whatever the other show is that she did that?

Maybe the Amanda Show as ever, Yeah, yeah, and so did that and maybe a couple other things.

Speaker 4

I can't remember exactly.

I'd have to look on my IMDb.

Speaker 5

Was it the Bette Midler sitcom that that was probably in there at some point?

Speaker 4

Yeah, that was.

Speaker 2

I love that we know your resume better than you know your resume.

Speaker 4

Yes, definitely, I mean, really think back, but yeah, it was somewhere in there.

Speaker 5

And eventually we moved to La uh and that was about you know, two thousand and two thousand and one.

I got my sad card in nineteen ninety nine, okay, and so yeah.

Speaker 2

Well that's you.

Speaker 1

We I love that you're like, Okay, which one of these shows was I on?

Speaker 2

Because you've done so many.

Speaker 1

One of the things that we were all so amazed about is not just the sheer number, but the names of the people.

Speaker 4

That you write.

Speaker 2

So, I mean you got people like that.

Speaker 1

I mean just you said Amanda Biens and you've got Drew Carrey, Julia, Luis Dreyfus, usher that Midler.

I mean, it's kind of like one Brian Cranston.

I mean, it's just like one after another.

Speaker 2

I mean, it's awesome people in Hollywood.

What is that?

Speaker 5

I mean, it's funny.

Yeah, no, it's it's true.

It's hard to take stock of that because I guess you don't you you know, they mean names.

Well, everyone's in a different point in their career when to you work with them.

But also it's like they mean different things to you.

And I don't know, I don't really think about that that often, and I don't even know, like some relationships, it feels like, oh, I was friendly with that person, but then I never talked to them again, and I feel like, oh, why didn't you just like like, I mean, this is you know, kind of has a you know, bittersweet quality.

But I did work with James Gandolfini on that, on that Beneffleic film, and and he was very I played his son on that.

There was another Christmas movie and here I am.

I mean, the joke was that I'm like, you know, I'm half Jewish and I don't know why I'm getting all these Christmas movies.

Speaker 4

I love it.

Speaker 6

I love it.

Speaker 4

It's really funny.

Speaker 5

I mean last night we actually watched I said because I said, st Andrew my wife, I said, let's can we watch it was the Night because I've got to talk about it and I don't even remember it, and uh and we're watching it, and I was thinking, why did they cast me?

Speaker 4

I mean, I look, I look so not yeah, I look so Jewish.

Speaker 5

I mean it's so funny to me and so anyway, so uh, you know, but I mean, you know, Ganofini was very kind and gracious, and I remember when we wrapped, he said, you know, let's keep in touch and here's my number.

Anytime you're in New York, you know, you've got a place to stay.

And I never ever contacted you.

Speaker 1

And because you're like set friends, it's a it's a weird you always it's as friend.

Speaker 2

For a month and then yeah, you know, you don't see each other again.

Speaker 3

Especially with you, because it seems like you were working constantly, so you were going from like one group of people to work with quickly to the next.

And you know, you're just your your life just is rolling fast.

Speaker 2

And you're young.

Speaker 3

You're young too, you don't I feel like that's one of the things with younger actors is you don't really get the concept of the networking aspect of acting until later on in life, and you know, it's it's just it's it's hard to navigate being so young in the industry for sure.

Speaker 4

For sure, I don't recommend it.

I mean, I don't know how you guys feel about it.

Speaker 5

It's like it's it can be pretty uh difficult to navigate in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3

But I love that you watched it because we do ask a lot of people because I mean, so often these movies were done and so long ago, and they've they did them and they're kind of.

Speaker 2

Just part of their past.

Speaker 3

They haven't seen them in ten fifteen years or whatever.

So I love that you did sit down and watch them.

We've had an interview where he's like, I really don't remember.

Oh nothing, I don't remember.

I don't even remember the storyline, to be honest.

Speaker 5

It were like, yeah, I mean, I guess I always try to do my homework.

Speaker 4

I think that's one thing.

Speaker 5

And I even when I know it's interesting, you know, I mean, as a I don't know where that it's almost feels like a work ethic thing.

And I think that a lot of young actors you know, who continue to work, they probably have that you know built into them because you know you have a responsibility.

Speaker 4

You show up and I don't know.

I guess that's that's part of it.

Speaker 5

I feel like, even when I I try to tell myself, even when I feel like I'm not prepared, you've already done enough to be prepared enough, like to the bear mind right, so right, I don't.

Speaker 4

I just feel like the right thing to.

Speaker 1

Do right, well, to watch it as you went to that first audition where you're like, I'm not sure I can give up my soccer career.

Speaker 4

I wasn't that good.

Speaker 2

Were you?

Were you on like the orange team?

Like when I was on soccer, it was like that kind of thing.

Speaker 4

I think we were.

Yeah, we might have been the blue team, but you got something something of the like.

Speaker 5

I think there was one team that a few friends, including this one friend who probably I guess got me into the business, who's not Actually he's an animator now, so I know, yeah, he's still in the business.

Speaker 6

He's probably worked with Will then yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, probably probably yeah.

Speaker 5

He He and a lot of my other friends were just great soccer players, and I was always trying to get on their team, and I was always on some other like you say color team, like the blue color, the green.

Speaker 4

Color, and uh uh yeah.

Speaker 5

I think one year they let me on after like five years of tryouts, like it almost isn't I guess a pity like the a pity admission.

And they never they never played me like I would practice, but I never got in the games.

Speaker 4

And maybe there was one time it was like you know a movie where they go, you know, Zuckeran getting there and goals.

Speaker 6

And then you know, it is so strange.

Speaker 3

I didn't realize because I played soccer growing up, but I didn't realize until now I have kids, and my daughter's played a couple of years.

Speaker 6

How many kids play soccer when.

Speaker 2

They that's what you do.

Speaker 1

It's because you just you're running around anyway, so somebody just throws you a ball.

Speaker 2

I mean, that's basically what happens to tire you up so crazy it is.

Speaker 3

I go to these games and run into so many people I know because they have their kids in soccer now, and it's like, that's.

Speaker 6

Just what you do.

Speaker 3

It's it's you know the middle of the summer, the registration goes out and you put your kid in soccer.

Speaker 1

It's of course, all right, so you've talked about how cool James Gambalfini was.

I'm gonna throw some names at you and then we'll get it read.

We want to get into your Disney stuff.

But I've got to ask about certain people.

So what was Bette Miller like?

Speaker 4

Oh, you know Bet and I I mean, I don't think that I don't even know that I ever, you.

Speaker 5

Know, exchanged two words with her.

It was probably more of a group situation.

I got a sense that she was, you know, she's got middler.

She she she has a presence.

She you know, it was I think the show is called Bett, you know.

I mean, so she, you know, she ran that ship, and it was just kind of a fun to be in her presence.

I think that there was I mean, I don't know this is a but, but she she loved to rehearse, so we did, you know, it was just a sitcom, but we rehearsed and then.

Speaker 4

She she went off to make up.

But she came back.

She looked like a completely different person.

Yeah, I mean, they really glammed her up.

Speaker 2

How about Julia Louis Dreyfus, who's one of my favorites.

Speaker 5

Uh, she was very, very kind.

I did have a little bit of an interaction with her on whatever, that show with the geppetto d the week that we did geppetto.

Speaker 2

To tell you about.

Speaker 4

Guess it's the same many lines, you know, the dialogue.

Over the years, you forget, well, you've.

Speaker 2

Been in hundreds of things, literally hundreds.

Speaker 6

Of things, and you weren't prepared for the quiz.

Speaker 2

The night.

Speaker 1

I was gonna say, we're going to talk about bet first, We're gonna we're gonna go through the entire pilot, start strong.

Speaker 4

The short lived a little known show called where I don't know.

Yeah, let's see you.

Speaker 5

No.

No, she was very very kind, let's go with kind, personal, funny, charming, very very sweet.

Speaker 4

I think I had a little bit of a crush on her.

Speaker 5

I always thought that, you know, she was she was I always I guess I had a crush on her as a lane probably you know, it's like she's she's just adorable, She's so funny.

Speaker 3

Do you have anyone that you worked with that you really felt like you learned a ton from, Like someone that you somewhat either like you said, looked up to, or you know that you remember being a young actor feeling like, yeah, that was awesome.

Speaker 5

That's a good question as a young that probably I'll probably be able to answer.

The question is remind me of what I actually worked?

Speaker 2

Well, should we jump to Lions for Lambs?

Speaker 4

Then?

Oh, Lions for Lambs?

Sure?

Sure, you know, I probably could.

I could probably try to answer that question.

Speaker 5

And I don't know if I'll have an answer, but if everything you mentioned, I'll try to think of something that I actually learned from that project.

Speaker 4

Maybe that's a Lions for Lambs.

Well, you know, that's another bit of sweet.

But I had Actually what's strange.

Speaker 5

About this is, I'll give you this is a little backstort of lines flums.

I had written down.

You know, I'm just in my twenties, and I was probably The Secret had just come out or something.

You remember that thing, The Secret There was like a documentary and a book about how you can visualize something and make it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I was living in a self help.

Speaker 4

He told Yeah, So I think I wrote down there's also that visualistic I wrote down, I want to be in a Robert Redford directed movie.

Speaker 2

I start.

Speaker 4

I wrote down, and like like within twelve months, six months, I don't know how long.

Speaker 5

It was short period of time relatively, I got an audition for Lions for Lambs and now it wasn't for a big rolls for They was like they were just casting a few name kids who had a few lines.

And I got it and I thought, oh my gosh, what a and I was a dream come true.

Robert Redford.

What I learned from that is he yelled at me to be louder.

Not he didn't yell at me like in any kind of extremely.

He just yelled from behind like a video village.

Speaker 2

Uh yelled louder.

Speaker 5

And so that's what I remember from that is Robert Redford telling me to be louder.

Speaker 4

So I wasn't enunciating.

Speaker 2

I was like, you know, hey, you were directed by Robert Redford.

Speaker 4

I was, yes, right, one more direction.

Speaker 2

But yeah, that's sick though.

Speaker 1

Wait is it's Robert Redford, Meryl Street, Tom Cruise, Michael Pena, Andrew Garfield, Peter Berg, Kevin de Right.

Speaker 3

Yeah, wow, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you might have worked with more cool people than anybody we've interviewed so far.

Speaker 4

He really is.

Speaker 2

I mean, well you jump from there.

Speaker 1

I mean I don't know who you've enternew but were you an oppenheimer?

Speaker 2

I wasn't hitting of course you're an Oppenheim.

I mean, my god.

Speaker 1

So you were directed by Christopher Nolan, You're directed by Robert Redford, and then you also were directed by Mike Myers from Halloween, which we'll get into.

Speaker 4

You know, Mike Myers from all Yeah, what do you?

What do you mean?

Speaker 1

You know the guy who directed Twas the Night was the ouster who played Michael Myers.

Speaker 5

That's right, that's right, Yeah, I forgot.

I also want to say that is pretty amazing.

Like Nick Castle is an interesting guy and we will talk about that.

But Castle, it was just I was thinking back and he was such a joy to work with him, just a sweet personal guy.

But yeah, he also directed a film from the eighties thing.

It was like nineteen eighty four that I watched after I booked the role.

Speaker 4

Probably please tell.

Speaker 2

Me it was the Last Starfighter.

Yes, it's just the greatest movie of all time.

Speaker 1

And if you want me to get into the outfit and do the entire movie line by line right now, I can.

Speaker 2

Oh so oh yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 4

Yea.

Speaker 2

Josh Well.

Speaker 1

I was born in nineteen seventy six, so I was eight years old when the movie came out.

It was it was made for me and I used to just watch it on a loop, so it was so Yeah, it's a phenomenal film.

Speaker 4

It's crazy to me that he and I haven't seen it years, but I do remember being amazing.

Speaker 5

It's crazy to me that he I mean, I don't know.

I mean, no judgment, but it didn't have like a batter career after that.

It was such a great movie.

And I think he also like story by or covid of Hook?

Speaker 2

Is that right?

Speaker 4

Nick?

Speaker 2

He wasn't.

He was a co writer of Hook.

He's had next.

Speaker 1

To you, He's had one of the coolest careers of anybody we've talked about on this show.

Speaker 2

I mean, he really you go through his backstory.

Speaker 1

It's like, Oh, you played Michael Myers, Oh you co wrote Hook, Oh you directed the Last star Fight.

Speaker 2

I mean, like really cool stuff backwards and forwards.

Speaker 3

Did you know?

Speaker 2

Did you so?

Speaker 3

But did you know he was Mike Myers and Halloween when you worked with him?

Speaker 4

I don't think I did.

But I don't know if I had seen Halloween.

Speaker 6

Because that would have freaked me out a little bit.

Speaker 3

I think I would have got a few times at least on set, like looking at him like.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he's wearing.

He's in the whole outfit.

Speaker 1

He's wearing the mask the entire time he's directing, and he's just sitting there staring at you like and just pointing at places instead of a perfect.

Speaker 4

Christmas movie, totally a Halloween movie and dressed up.

That might be a good tactic.

Speaker 2

That's not bad.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's not a bad idea.

Speaker 1

All right, So we we do need to talk about getting onto the channel.

So first of all, we always like to ask before you joined the Disney machine, the juggernaut that is Disney, were you a fan of Disney Channel?

Were you watching the d coms or any of that kind of stuff or no, I don't think.

Speaker 4

So I know what was on Disney Channel.

Speaker 1

I don't know what was well back in the day you would have been there for probably the Brink Xenon Xenon and Johnny Tsunami.

Speaker 2

Luck of the Irish Smart House.

Speaker 4

This is really offensive that I don't know that.

Speaker 3

Because a lot of times, when you know, like for me, with me, I grew up watching the channel.

So when I was going to the auditions, those were the auditions that I, you know, really was wanting to because I wanted to be on the channel.

I love watching all the shows, and I knew that it was a good stepping stone into a bigger.

Speaker 6

Career and things like that.

Speaker 3

So it's always interesting when we have people that end up being on the channel, knowing whether or not that was kind of their journey.

Speaker 6

Or if they were.

Speaker 3

There's so many deep people that like they didn't even have the Disney Channel at all, because you had to have right that, Yeah, for a long time, you had to like have a separate Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4

I mean I guess, yeah, I mean I didn't.

I don't think I watched di Cy channel.

Speaker 5

I think mostly it was I was actually talking to I mentioned this my mom because I took her to movie and it was like, you know, I don't know, fifty bucks for the two of us or something like that, and I said maybe it was like, yes.

Speaker 2

My wife and I went last week.

It was eighty dollars for two tickets of popcorn.

Eighty dollars.

Yeah, don't get me starting.

Speaker 5

I mean, yeah, so, I but I remember we used to go every you know, every weekend and just see whatever was there, and that was what we That was the entertainment.

Speaker 4

And now you know, a little more TV centric you know.

Speaker 5

Uh so I don't remember watching Disney Channel so much, but I do remember auditioning for it a bunch, okay, because that's where kids you know, if you're a young kid, that's where you fit, right.

It's like that's the most of what's.

Speaker 6

Going on there.

Yeah, creating the most opportunities for kids.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I mean there was, I really I got there was a show, Even Stevens, that's what it was.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I don't I was up before.

Speaker 5

I don't remember that was before or after?

Twasn't I because it wasn't.

I came on two thousand and one.

Speaker 1

I guess Even Stevens I think was before that.

Yeah, okay, Kim Possible, which started in two thousand and three, so that was after.

Speaker 2

My guess is yeah, I think even Steve was like lately ninety.

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so I.

Speaker 5

May have made some fans there because I was up for Even Stevens.

Speaker 4

You know, they had and this was back.

Speaker 5

I mean, everything's different now, but I mean I remember probably and I don't think I'm exaggerating seven callbacks for Even Stevens.

Speaker 4

So we just kept going back.

It was that same building in down in the rank, the DIY Channel building.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, still there, still there, still there, that's not the top floor is not where they have auditions anymore though, now I don't okay, yeah.

Speaker 4

But they still have them in that building.

Speaker 1

Oh sure, yeah I think yeah, but yeah, yeah exactly when they have auditions in person.

Speaker 3

Bring them in.

Speaker 1

Yeah's elevators with theater, kids up and down the thing.

Speaker 2

You can tell.

Speaker 3

Yes, so you were in line obviously for Shila's role.

I'm sure right.

You guys were the same age ish Yeah, how crazy, so they know they remembered you definitely, Judy.

Speaker 4

Uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

It was the casting director and she was great.

She would always That was one thing, because that's the thing too.

So many kids go on a bunch of auditions and you might not be right for that role, but then something else comes along and they remember you and they're like, oh, we got to get this person back in to read for this, like they'd be great.

Speaker 4

So yeah, sure, yeah, yeah it was.

Speaker 5

It's very familiar with that building and so many I mean, I haven't been back there probably and I don't know, at least two decades or something, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

When you when you get the when you find out you you made it, were you able to find out the rest of the cast you think, or did you just meet them for the first time on your first table read or which was the night Yeah for twelve?

Speaker 5

Yeah, I think my guess is that recall, but I think that Brian Crest was probably already cast okay, and so probably said that I didn't meet but I didn't meet anyone.

It wasn't like I did a chemistry read or anything.

I'm pretty positive I meant everyone.

And I think we filmed in Yeah, we definitely filmed in Toronto, okay, and I met everyone and like wherever that you know they put everyone in the Suddon plays Yeah, probably, yeah, Yeah, probably had a table readed and that's where I met everyone and including you know, I may have auditioned with Nick Castle, though I may have the director, I think, Yeah, I think that he probably was in the room and I auditioned.

Speaker 6

I'm playing audition eleven yeah eleven.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Yeah, how they decided, I don't know how they just said any of these things, but yeah, wow.

Speaker 2

So what was what was the shooting process like?

Did it was it a smooth shoot?

Was it a little bit difficult?

What was it like?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 5

It was probably quick.

I wish I remembered more.

I thought maybe this, you know, sparked my memory to watch it.

I do remember something, although I was, I was blown away that there were scenes that I have no recollection of.

Speaker 4

Filming at all.

Speaker 5

Really yeah, I mean there's a scene at the end of a climactic scene where these the guys show up with the guys who've been chasing Uncle Nick Brian Clinton's character the entire time.

They show up in our driveway and we have a whole scene with them and I and I, you know, tell them the what have you?

Speaker 4

And I have no recollect for that.

Speaker 5

I don't really see at all.

Yeah, but uh yeah, it was pretty smooth.

I think that like half of my of my filming was on a green screen, in this big stage of green screen on that sleigh with with Brian.

Speaker 2

Wait, that wasn't a real you guys weren't flying a real sleigh.

Come on, I know it looks really believable.

What but yeah, you're really magic.

You're killing me.

Speaker 4

Sorry to break the hard truth deal, but yeah, it was.

You know, it was funny rewatching that last night is that they put either a blue or a black beanie on my.

Speaker 5

Head, but they made the sky and black, and so it looks like half my head's missing, and I don't know why anybody noticed that.

They like, they put me a yellow jacket, like, okay, that's a little real, looks like a rain jacket.

Speaker 4

But I guess at least it pops out.

Speaker 5

But then they decided they obviously thought about contrast, but now I'm gonna came to my head.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Well, my other question is, was there any any pushback on the just having the actors freeze as opposed to actually freezing.

Speaker 4

That's a great question because not all all freeze acting great and equal.

Speaker 2

Correct, there's a lot of correct, there's a.

Speaker 4

Lot of shaking.

I know why they didn't just nobody else in the shot, just like Juste.

Speaker 2

I was literally yelling at my screen like you're not freezing.

Speaker 3

I just can't imagine how many takes it took to even get what was ending up in the actual because it looked I can't even for me, I'm thinking, like.

Speaker 6

Can I even do that?

Speaker 2

And like, I don't.

Speaker 3

I don't think I've ever had to sit still like that ever, let alone on the camera.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

And you know, and the other thing is there's this one scene where he's stealing.

Speaker 5

From and by the way, what a despicable character.

Bran like essentially the protagonist.

I mean, he has the transformation, but uh he pulls an automan out from underneath a guy.

Speaker 4

That poor guy, he takes a dif from that.

Speaker 5

He's just like he's got as you know, continue to levitate his feet like that.

Yes, really really amazing.

Yeah, No, I don't remember a lot of pushback.

I mean I would probably would never have.

I mean maybe Brian would have said, you know, we probably don't need to.

But even he was so easy going that it's from what I recall that I don't think he It's really remarkable that he did that movie.

Speaker 3

Right what I literally screamed, because we don't are Will and I try not to look into any of the movies, especially when it's a d coom that neither of us has seen.

So just watch it for the first time.

Just seeing everything when he came on screen, I was like, hey, but I'm like having my Will come decon crazy, Like it was unbelievable that he did it.

Speaker 6

But what a great role, and.

Speaker 3

Man, he was awesome in it.

He took this character to the nine.

It was amazing.

Speaker 4

He had a lot of fun.

Speaker 5

I mean, it's strange and that.

Yeah, I mean I think he was doing he had already done Malcolm in the Middle, who he was like a year or two in Malcolm in the Middle.

So that's what I think I knew him from at the time.

And I'm sure he had already I guess he had.

You know, there was a whole story that he did that one episode of X Files and that's what got him breaking back kind of thing.

And I'm sure you must have already done that.

So it's just interesting to see him be so goofy, which.

Speaker 4

He wasn't Malcolm in the Middle as well, sure.

Speaker 5

In this movie and and and I would love to know what he thinks about it now, like does he does he think about it?

Speaker 4

And go, oh, I can't.

I hope nobody knows I did that.

Speaker 1

I don't know.

Speaker 2

My guess is like because again he was in things like uh, Power Rangers as Zordan.

Speaker 4

Oh wow, so yeah, I didn't realize that.

Speaker 1

So yeah, So I mean there's I think he's one of those guys.

It's like a screw and I'm gonna go have some fun.

Yeah, I'm gonna go to a Disney movie and I'll be great in it.

It'll be it'll be a fun time like that.

Nobody's gonna take it all that seriously.

He probably digs do it because I have to imagine by season five of Breaking Bad, it's got to be like weighing on your soul where he's like, man, I wish I could play Santa again.

You know how fun that would be to just I don't want to cook meth today?

Can we just play Santa Claus at least give me kill anyone?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Do you ever now back in the day, I could see it happening, Uh quite a bit.

But to this day, does anybody recognize you from Twas the Night?

Speaker 2

Does anybody come up.

Speaker 1

To you ever and they're like, hey, you were you were the guy in the Disney my favorite decon?

Speaker 4

But you know, I don't.

I don't think so.

I think that.

Speaker 5

Uh, I don't think that's I don't even know if that happened at the time.

I mean, I have no concept of whether I guess people still watch that movie or they did for a period of time.

I mean, because you know they play them over and over again.

Speaker 3

Yeah right, oh yeah, that's what I would assume, is I mean, the only part about this is being a Christmas movie.

It didn't get the replay probably as others because it wasn't.

Speaker 2

All year round but Christmas.

It became at Yeah.

Speaker 6

They it became a staple.

It was such a good movie.

Speaker 3

So I feel like, you know, and now the resurgence have you felt have you not felt that at all as far as like this now being on Disney Plus and like available for like more of a fan base to actually see you.

Speaker 4

I don't.

I don't think so, I don't think.

Speaker 5

I mean, I you know, and I don't know if anyone would really put it together that this space is that face.

Speaker 4

I don't know.

It feels like, you know, a lot more certainly a lot more youthful.

Speaker 2

And I don't know, Well, what do you do you get recognized for.

Speaker 1

The most.

Speaker 5

It depends who's historically, probably in its time, not into.

Speaker 1

A O okay and maybe still not onto and O more than sex drive.

Speaker 4

Sex drive happens occasionally.

Yeah, sure, And I'm trying to think.

Speaker 3

Your wife would probably know the answer to this, because she's always like, right, y, yes, it's him.

Speaker 5

I mean, you know, as funny as that, you know, my wife was on Desperate Housewise for years and years and uh and she especially there are certain European countries that some shows are really you know, popular in and so Desperate Housewise was very popular.

I don't even know where, but somewhere in Europe in a few different countries, and I think friends particularly, and so when whenever we're over there, and we've been over there together a couple of times, she gets recognized all the time.

But I'll be standing, I was also in Desperate Desperate Housewise, and I actually like start my storyline as I strangled her, you know, and I was strangling all these people, but they all they're like, could you could you take the picture?

And I'm like, well, you know, I was also that's but you know, it's it's and it happens all the time for her.

She's she's actually doing a podcast on iHeart about about this rasis.

Speaker 6

Like I rewatched one.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so we are Heart we are iHeart Brethren, which is which.

Speaker 5

Is yeah, when I said, you guys reached out and she said, wait, I wonder if it's the same, if it's the same team or I don't know if she yeah.

Speaker 6

There's a lot of crossover there.

That's awesome, how fun.

Speaker 4

But yeah, one time.

Speaker 5

I was walking down the street and you would never think you would be recognized from but this is pretty funny.

I played a character based on a real character named Rossi Lomanitz in Oppenheimer and and then in the film I'm addressed as Lman.

It's about the last name.

And I was walking down the street in Burbank and I don't know what.

I was probably talking to myself, is your want to do?

And and just thinking about life or something probably more likely like rehearsing dialogues to me.

And somebody came out their front door and stared at me.

I mean just walked out their front door like they'd seen me walk by.

They came out and and I and I noticed someone staring at me.

And I looked back and he said and he said, are you are you?

I said, hire you?

Speaker 4

Are you?

Are you?

Are you Lominus?

I said, what is its?

Limus?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 5

I thought that was pretty wild because you know, it's a big cast and it's not like it's one movie and and everybody kind of looks the same.

It's a bunch of you know, white scientists and uh and and he knew the character, and it was just really I thought it was a very fun, fun way.

Speaker 4

To get recognized, Like, you know, no idea who I was, but yeah, oh.

Speaker 1

God, that well we just heard, by the way, from one of our producers.

I covered his wife's podcast on Wednesday in person and met her, and my mind.

Speaker 2

Is totally blown.

Had no idea that that was his Oh my god, currently she's she's not only pregnant, but very pregnant.

Is that what we hear?

Speaker 4

She's very pregnant.

Yeah, we're I mean I might have to leave this zoom.

Speaker 6

Oh gosh, like babe, it's time.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we've got the bag by the front door.

Speaker 1

And yeah, is Loman it's one of the possible names for the child.

Speaker 2

A kind of cool.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, you'd have a very long list of options if you did want to go after one of your old characters that you play.

Speaker 5

Sure you go through that.

It's not a bad place to start, you know.

No, Yes, it is so hard to think of names, you know.

Speaker 3

It's probably one of things.

I didn't have a name for my second my son until he was eight maybe, like you know, until like a month before actually having him.

I could not find a name that my husband liked to I didn't.

Speaker 6

It's so hard.

Speaker 4

It's so, what's the responsibility?

Speaker 5

A lot of names are great as a kid, but you go they age well with the kid, and you.

Speaker 2

Know you're gonna think what the nickname is going to be.

That's very important because that's going to be a thing.

Sure, yes, really, like.

Speaker 3

There's a lot of names, but that are kind of trendy and you don't really want to pick one that like there's going to be five of him in every grade he's in, you know, like you there's three of them, and that's go buy his last yeather.

Speaker 5

Like you know, and you don't want a random name that she's like, it's like why that name?

I mean, you know, you guys aren't Spanish, and you know, you know, is that weird?

Speaker 4

Is that appropriate?

Speaker 6

I mean, but that's a huge responsibility.

Speaker 3

I mean some people do go back and change it later or Okay, we are being asked to by our producers.

Speaker 2

No, yeah, to.

Speaker 3

Give a little bit of tea from School Spirit season three?

Speaker 5

Maybe sure, yeah the tea.

Look, I love this show School Spirits.

What's great about the show is I think that it changes every season and yet it it maintains its character.

Speaker 4

And what's great about it.

Speaker 5

I think somebody, somebody said, we just finished season three.

Speaker 4

It will be out next year.

Speaker 5

And somebody said that the first season was kind of a murder mystery, and the second season, which I can say is because it's already you know, it's already been released.

Speaker 4

Was.

Speaker 5

More of a like a sci fi of a sci fi show.

And I think it's fair to say that I can tease that the third season is more of a like a haunted film, more of a horror.

Okay, it's funny if you think about it, and that it makes a lot of sense, and uh and and it's and it's really fun the way you could take advantage of those different even the way the story is told, the tropes and the way it's shot, and and everybody's great.

Speaker 4

The writing is great.

Speaker 5

The cast is just really not only so talented, but just there's not a yeah what they say, like a rotten raisin in the bushel.

Speaker 2

I don't know, I don't think anybody that's a thing, that's not a thing.

Speaker 4

You get it.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, there you go, and uh uh and and so yeah, that would be my my teas because I don't know, I don't know what else I could say that's not gonna give a bunch of stuff away, you know.

Speaker 4

Right people?

Speaker 3

You know, can you say who's in it?

Is Milo still in the show?

Speaker 4

Milo's still in the show?

Yeah, Peyden's Peyton's there.

Yeah, all the hits are there.

And and we added Jennifer Chilli this she is very exciting.

Yeah, and she is.

She is so delightful.

Yeah, she is.

She's so funny.

I really am a big Jennifer Tilli fan.

Speaker 5

I mean I was already a fan of just a fan of her work, but you know, meaning or she's she's just someone you'd want to have over for dinner all the time.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker 1

Now, what what kind of You've obviously gone almost full circle, or I guess it wouldn't be full circle, it would just be a dead straight line.

Speaker 2

I don't know what I'm thinking.

Speaker 1

But you've gone from being a child actor to growing up in the industry and now you're playing you're an adult actor with younger actors on the show.

Is there any wisdom you're in parting to them as you're going because it's kind of like, obviously the business is completely different than it was when we were coming up, but it's still you've kind of been there done that is there?

Speaker 2

Do they look to you as kind of a mentor.

Speaker 5

I think there's a little bit of that baked in and maybe more in the first season.

And then as they got to know me, they go, oh, this guy is.

Speaker 2

Knowing that that's a alarness.

You become an adult.

It's like, oh, god, adults.

So any idea what they're doing at all for the.

Speaker 4

First season, but the first season illusion was there.

Speaker 5

Yeah, But you know, I mean, things will come along, like you know, so you'll get a job or something and I'll you know, I'll throw in my two cents or something.

Speaker 4

Somebody asked the questions.

Speaker 5

But you know, I think that there's a degree of respect just because they're respectful people.

Not that I'm asking for anything like that, but they go like, hey, you're an older act.

You've done a lot of stuff and and uh and then and that's very sweet.

Speaker 3

I would imagine too, because the industry is so different, Like if I were to be working with a lot of the younger kids, I would.

Speaker 6

Be asking them like, hey, could you help me with.

Speaker 3

This like Instagram like real or I don't know a thing about TikTok, like you know what I mean, I feel like teaching also teaching the older generation a little bit of the changes and how different it is, how how they're able to connect with their fans so much more than than we were, you know back, especially during you know, your time, like on the channel, it's like you basically just go home and wait for.

Speaker 6

The good air.

Speaker 2

That's how it should be.

Speaker 6

Yes, it's so right now you have to.

Speaker 3

I mean, but the way that we just actually talked to another channel star's mom, like and she's you know, in the industry herself, and she's had to navigate her son who's now really big on the channel, and she was saying that the channel, Disney Channel.

Speaker 6

Actually gives the kids classes.

Speaker 3

And like was like, helps teach them how to navigate this new form of you know obviously social media and all that stuff, and gave them a lot of tips, which I was like, that's what makes Disney Channel so great for your kid to be on, like to be a young actor on the channel.

Is they really take care of their actors and helping them help guide them, which I thought was really an interesting tidbit to find out.

Speaker 5

Yes, that's very nice.

They also include some classes on like how to do your.

Speaker 4

Taxes or like, you know that would also be help.

Speaker 2

School is the weirdest thing.

Speaker 4

I know, it's bizarre that they did.

Speaker 2

In school, isn't it.

Speaker 4

But but no, you bring up a really good point.

Speaker 5

I mean, I do think that there's something about that that there are times where I certainly ask them, like, I don't know how to do this thing.

You know, the network wants us to promote this, but I'm not even sure what this button does and I don't know.

I don't do that, like how do I create multiple But they also are so it's like they know.

Maybe I think they just know more because there was so many cautionary like I mean, actual cautionary tales are so much more about being a child.

So when so the newer generation, when they are younger actors, and I wouldn't call these, you know, our cast child.

Speaker 2

Child actors, you to younger actors.

Speaker 5

I do think that there's been so much, uh so much light has been shed on on the pitfalls of that and the ways in which people can be you know, taking advantage of in this industry, or or the way they can be psychologically tortured, and and so I think that they have a lot more support and there's a lot more levity and and so I think i'd like to think and it seems from our castid that they really have a good way of saying is like they have a good head on their shoulders.

Speaker 4

You know.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think there's a weird it's it's it's strange nowadays where I think in the industry itself, it's safer to be a child actor in the rest of the world.

Speaker 2

Now it's not because of social media.

Speaker 1

So and it used to be the other way around, where it was like it was the industry that was the dangerous part, and just being in the world was pretty safe.

Speaker 2

Now it's kind of the other way.

It's flopped.

Speaker 4

It's very fair.

That's the sound bite for this.

Speaker 1

All right, So wait, I have I have two final questions for you.

The first one is if they come to you and say we want to do twas the Night to yes, you did?

You?

Speaker 2

Would you would do it?

Speaker 6

Do it?

Speaker 5

I mean yeah, yeah, well, I mean yes, of course, on board?

Speaker 4

Okay, yeah, I'm on board.

I'm I'm on board.

Speaker 5

I mean why not?

You know, it's the people demanded.

Who are we to deny the people what they.

Speaker 1

Are?

Speaker 6

Where would you think now?

Speaker 3

And I love that you just recently watched it, So where would you think that your character would maybe be at this many years later?

Speaker 4

Oh, that's a great question.

Speaker 2

Did I figure out he's Jewish?

Uncle?

Speaker 6

Didn't realize he was Jewish the whole time?

I really had no business playing Santa.

Speaker 5

Yes, Interior Kitchen day opens up email from you know twenty three and me love Smith's music playing in the background, you know, right as soon as he sees he's.

Speaker 4

The phone, rings and brass and his uncle.

Nay, I love it.

Speaker 2

I love it great.

That's gay.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Okay, So then my other my this, and this is kind of it's not a mean question, but it's difficult.

I love putting people on the spot, and it's going to be way more difficult for you than anybody else because you have an incredible resume.

But what's your favorite project that you've ever worked on?

Speaker 6

It can't be this podcast.

Absolutely, we'd love to be a part of it.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 5

You know, I have a real soft spot in my heart for for Sex Drive.

Speaker 4

It was, it was.

Speaker 5

It was such a a memorable experience for me in a lot of ways.

It was very it was it was very challenging, it was it was rewarding in a way, and I'm proud of it.

I haven't seen that in a long time, and I'm proud of a lot of it.

Speaker 4

And uh, it was just it just felt like, uh, you know, it's just a great experience I had.

Speaker 5

I learned kind of how to even though I guess I kind of learned how to be a lead of something or that kind of responsibility.

Sure, And I learned how to have a more to kind of have more of a voice on set and to throw ideas out or asked to have a conversation about something or just to be involved in that conversation.

And uh and and and yeah, it was it was difficult to navigate.

It was definitely a lot of and but it was counting.

It was a really good experience.

Speaker 2

That's cool.

Speaker 1

Yeah, being number one on the call sheet, there's it's it's fun.

Speaker 2

But it brings responsibility with it.

It definitely does.

Speaker 4

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2

Well, thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 1

Congratulations on everything that's hopefully going to happen very soon.

Speaker 2

We're not going to Yes, congratulations your first it is so congratulations.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Yeah, we're you know, trying to get sleep, as they say, But you know, even yeah, it seems difficult in advance and heard different reasons.

Speaker 4

For me, I'm just you know, nervous and excited, but of course.

Speaker 2

But I mean, look at it this way.

Speaker 1

In just eighteen short years, you're gonna have somethingy that's gonna resent you.

Speaker 2

And that's really amazing.

Speaker 1

Really, you can tell I don't have children, Josh, It's gonna be so magical.

Speaker 6

It's crazy.

You'll realize too.

Speaker 3

One of my favorite things, like looking throughout with my kids is the moments that you're in you're like, oh, we especially the first one you're like, oh, this is my favorite age.

And then they start to do other things like whether it's you know, sit up on their own or they start talking a little bit or whatever, and they're like, oh, this is my favorite stage.

And then you get to the next part and you're.

Speaker 6

Like, no, this is my favorite.

Speaker 3

It's so crazy how you just like you really are able to embrace watching a little baby that you made start doing such awesome stuff and it really is just such a magical journey and you're gonna love it.

Speaker 6

You're gonna love it.

Speaker 1

Will.

Speaker 6

Will don't say anything, Skip.

Speaker 2

I skipped right to being a grandfather.

Speaker 1

So you just stepdaughter and my first grandchild, so I get to I got to be the uncle right to grandfather.

Speaker 2

It is a great in the world.

Speaker 1

So yeah, well, thank you for joining us again, and yes we hopefully will be back for twas the Night too, because we really want to see it.

Speaker 5

So well, you guys you get I'm just saying you get the first look.

When when that's done, yeah, we can get in writing if you want.

Speaker 1

All right, Thank you so much, Josh, Thank you, Josh, you too.

Speaker 2

Bye bye.

Speaker 6

By man, it really is crazy to look at all.

Speaker 3

I mean, we didn't even.

Speaker 2

Know, we didn't touch on it.

I'm like nine of the stuff that.

Speaker 6

The like casts that he's been a part of.

Speaker 1

I mean, can I also tell you something that I so relate to this in a way to where it's like he's I mean, obviously not to the extent that he has, but it's I mean, he was in Oppenheimer.

He was directed by Robert Redford.

And you ask him what is his favorite thing was, and he says sex drive And it's because there are you do projects where you are number one of the call sheet.

Maybe the movie bombs For me, it was called Trojan War, which is it's a sex movie.

It's a sex comedy the same way that I'm sure sex Drive is.

And so you have these things though where you're like the lead and it's about you and you're in almost every scene.

It's just a different experience all the way around, and it doesn't becomes it's something that becomes precious.

Speaker 3

I mean, I love that he said he felt like he had a voice on yeah, on set and had a little bit of leverage to make decisions and stuff, and.

Speaker 2

That's tiber pushed to the back.

It's so weird to make.

Speaker 3

Right, I know, but it's so great when you find like a backing.

You know, your executive producer and your directors are allowing you to feel that out too.

You know.

That's always so something that really affects you as an actor, of being given that opportunity by by somebody you really you know, look look up to.

Speaker 2

Which is cool, it's awesome.

Well, thank you everybody for joining us, and thank you Josh for joining us.

I know he's probably just he's like, I got my shoes, I got my shoes on all the time.

But thank you everybody, and join us next time over.

Speaker 1

There on the other little feed there, because we are going to be watching a brand new movie, which is something we have never done before.

Speaker 2

Yes, we are watching those Joe brows.

Speaker 1

And I think it's called Christmas with the Jonas Brothers or Jonas Brothers Christmas How the Brinch Stole the Jonas Brothers.

Speaker 2

I don't know the exact name.

I'm excited.

Speaker 1

I'm excited if I am half as good as the first camp rock them in, so come on, this is it'll be great.

Speaker 3

So it will be so cool to watch them act years after.

Speaker 1

It looks like it's a very Jonas Christmas.

It's called it looks like it's actually going to be a funny movie.

They've got a ton of really cool cameos in it.

Speaker 4

So I'm in.

Speaker 2

I can't wait.

Yes, thank you everybody, and we will see you next time.

Bye bye,

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