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Speaker 2Here we go, here we goddem Welcome to Tequila Talk.
Speaker 1Every Welcome everyone to Part two.
Do part do of relationship questions.
Speaker 3Pour yourself a glass of your finest tequila or whatever you drink from straw Hut Media.
Speaker 2This is Tequila Talk with Daisy Foyntes.
Speaker 1And Richard mox our friends from social media.
Speaker 4I didn't want to bombard them.
I figured, you know a lot of the people who follow you follow me as well, So I didn't want to be redundant and annoy them.
Speaker 1And so I put it out there a few days before the last before last week's podcast, and there were so many good questions that I know we couldn't get to all of them on the last episodes.
So we're going to tackle a few more on this one.
Speaker 2More relationship topics.
Speaker 1That's what everybody wants to talk about.
Speaker 4That's what we all need to talk about.
Speaker 1I think even if you're not in a relationship, you have relationship questions.
Speaker 4Well, everyone has relationships, right, They don't have to be just romantic relationships.
You know, relationships are the most important thing, I think, the most important part of society.
Of course, it's all about relationships, and we often think that it has to be a romantic, intimate relationship, but you know, we've got sometimes the most troublesome relationships in our lives are not the romantic ones.
Speaker 1True, although that's the majority of the questions that we got.
Yeah, although I like talking to people about what they might be going through with a family member or a friend or an ex friend.
Speaker 4Yeah, And also, you know what's going on with yourself, because what goes on with yourself affects every relationship.
How you feel about yourself, Yeah, reflects in how you feel in a.
Speaker 1Place with yourself, you're not going to probably be in a good place with anybody else.
Yeah.
You know.
Speaker 4The perfect example of that was recently we went to a friend's dinner party and we met someone new and it was this guy, really nice man, very successful, he'd had a lot of success in his life.
Speaker 2But he said he was.
Speaker 4Going through some personal crap and you know, he had just been out of a relationship that he didn't really want to be out of, but he realized it was the wrong relationship for him, so he acknowledges that.
He also said he was going through some sort of a midlife crisis, changing everything that he was doing.
He said he didn't know exactly what it was that was bothering him about his life and about himself, so instead of trying to find down to what it was that he had to change, he said, I am changing everything.
And I thought that was brave and brilliant and interesting.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Yeah, and we both really gave him props for that.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, So sometimes it is Sometimes you have to figure out what it is in your life that you're not happy with anyone, the one.
Speaker 2Thing that you want to change.
Speaker 4But yeah, sometimes you just want to change it all up, change everything, including his career.
He's a very successful man and he's started doing something completely different.
Speaker 1Yeah.
I mean I can really relate to that in that, you know, I did the things that I did for decades, the things that I ate, the shows that I watched, the books that I read, the time I spent my downtime doing, and then changed it all.
I really changed it all.
You did.
There's very aside from seeking out a really great ice mocha everywhere I go.
That's pretty much the only thing I still do from yeah days.
Speaker 4Do you think the catalyst for that was mostly your divorce or were you headed in that direction prior to your separation.
Speaker 1I was starting to head in that direction prior to that, which I think was maybe part of knowing that I, you know that I was headed out of that relationship.
Speaker 4What would you say, was the first thing that you can remember changing, Whether it was like something that you changed your mind about, or something that you changed the way you did something, or what was it that that you that you can remember was the catalyst to all the change.
Speaker 1Well, the first thing that comes to mind, actually is I started to really seek what's called self help.
I started to really pursue every book and every ted talk and every lecture I could get my hands on about all I knew was I knew that I was not I knew that my relationship was not healthy in at least in the ways that I felt like, and I won't speak for her, but I felt like I wasn't fulfilled in the relationship the way I want it to be for a long time.
And so rather than blame someone, you know, you try to work it out.
You try to fix what's broken.
But at a certain point, when you realize that it's not that anybody's doing something wrong, it's just fundamentally you just completely changed and you're different than you were before, and what you want out of life is different than what they want out of life.
Then you're at this cross road.
It's like what do I do about it?
Do I just sort of like put my head down and just go with it, because like out of respect to history or you know, and the people who do that, I think end up really miserable.
Speaker 4I think there is something to be said for respecting your history and trying to make things work, absolutely trying.
Speaker 1To figure out if you've had good times and you've had good and you have respect for each other.
I think you owe it to each other to try.
Speaker 4I think every marriage has had good times, because otherwise you wouldn't get married.
Speaker 1So is that true?
That's just sort of miserable from day one?
Speaker 4Sure, But let's talk about it the way it's supposed to be.
You're supposed to be in love when you get married.
You're supposed to have a good relationship, at least in the beginning.
And it's very easy to see how some very young marriages, some very young couples, you know, twenty years into their marriage change and.
Speaker 1You're supposed to.
Speaker 4So there is something to be said for let's try to get back what we once had.
And if that doesn't work, sometimes it really is the old you know, it's not you, it's me.
Where the one person who is that there's usually one person who wants out.
Yeah, it's very rare that both people are like, Okay, we're both done.
Speaker 2We're both good with this.
Are we done?
Are we good?
Speaker 4We're good, We're happy.
You know, there's usually someone who is not on board with what is going to happen, right But yeah, I think that that is respectable that most people should at least try.
I mean, we all go through tough times in relationships and in marriage, and I think clearly it's not okay to just be like, oh, yeah, things aren't that great right now, I'm out.
You know, you owe into each other and to yourself to try to salvage something that was once good.
Speaker 1But what happens sometimes, and I'll speak for myself, is that when you get to the point when you realize that you are not in that relationship, you are not being one hundred percent authentically your self, where you are compromising who you are and what you like to talk about and what you like to do and how you like to go about your life.
Yeah, out of knowing that the other person is not on board with a lot of that.
You So when you for me, it started to I started to feel like I was just on mute, Like everything was muted, everything was sort of okay.
And I think that there should be more than that.
And when you are compromising who you are, your authentic self, it's going to eat at you and then it's not fair to the other person either.
Speaker 4Well, and sometimes you're in a relationship where you're just not really allowed the freedom to find out who your authentic self is.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's a little bit of a copat too.
Everybody.
You know, if your quote's not allowed, then you either speak up or you get out.
Speaker 2It's a little more complicated than that.
Speaker 1People who sort of lives it's very it's much easier to be a victim.
It's much easier to exist in an unhappy relationship and blame the other person rather than going you know what you need it to.
You know, it was very tough and very difficult and it affected a lot of people, but you know what, you got to do what you have to do.
Speaker 4Yeah, but that's much easier said than done.
You know, you're a very strong person.
You have a very strong sense of self and not everybody has that.
Some people have been worn down, or they've been worn down in their relationship by the struggles that they've been through in that relationship, or the partner that they're with has broken them down and made them insecure, or sometimes you're just not that person who's really strong and you know, you rely on having someone to lean on.
So it's really hard to make that move for some people to take that step.
Look, it was hard for you, and you're a very strong person, very independent, and it was difficult, so you can imagine not everybody's like that.
Speaker 1No, No, there are some people I know that they get out of a long relationship like they through it, like they're taking out the trash.
Speaker 2Especially of midlife.
It's very difficult to make that.
Speaker 1Yes, well that's that's one of the themes of some of these questions.
We should we dive in.
So here our first question is from Meredith who and this is such a simple question, but how do you keep your relationship exciting and spicy?
Speaker 2Everyone wants to know that.
Speaker 4Every time we ask about this, people want to know how do you keep it hot and spicey?
Speaker 1Right, and The first answer is we holding up.
We've only been married six years, been together eight so yeah.
Speaker 4But most people by you know, year five or year seven.
True, are you know you fall.
Speaker 2Into a routine?
Speaker 4Is something that's kind of eh, you know, just okay.
Speaker 1Would you agree with me that we don't quotes work at it.
Speaker 4Yeah, well we don't work at it, but we don't get lazy about it.
Speaker 1Right.
But there's a big difference this whole thing of like, well, you need to really work at it.
If it's really that much work, then is it really then there's something fundamentally wrong.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 4I think it's important to work at it in a way where you ask yourself, you know, how can I contribute to this relationship getting better?
Speaker 2What can I do better?
Speaker 1That's different, But that's not about keeping it exciting and spicy.
I think that that and I know that sometimes you do.
Every relationship has ebbs and flows, and it has periods where for circumstances that are out of your control.
Sometimes, Yeah, you can't be as hot for each other.
You can't.
You're not going to be as spontaneous, you're not going to like life happens.
Yeah, maybe part of it is that we met at a time when we had so much of that behind us already.
Yeah, so that by the time you and I got together, you didn't have kids, My kids were grown.
Yeah, which is a huge component of sure keeping a marriage hot, let's face it.
Speaker 4Yeah, But then you know, other aspects of life happen.
You know, we start dealing with our parents getting older, and with losing people in our family, and you know, there's there's everything goes through stages.
You know, if it's not one thing, it's another.
But life will always happen, Life will continue to happen.
So it's with us, it was about really finding a balance of how to deal with all these things that were happening in our lives during a new relationship.
But they're the kind of things that normally happened to people later on in their relationship.
Speaker 1Yeah, But for.
Speaker 4Us, we got married and immediately it was you know, your mom was getting older, she was ill, she moved in with us.
Speaker 2We were taking care of her.
Speaker 4My mom also is not well, and you know it's also being worrying about our parents.
Yeah, you know, it's that hit us the minute we got married, and that usually doesn't happen when you first get married.
Speaker 2Until many rights.
Speaker 1Why do you think that that didn't impact us in terms of being.
Speaker 2Because we were aware of it and we talked about it.
Speaker 1Yeah, we we did definitely communicate about it.
Speaker 4You know when we look at each other and we say, you know, what's different.
When we first started dating, there was a care free kind of.
Speaker 2Just just a.
Speaker 4Very free feeling and we were just doing everything that we wanted to do and we were having fun.
And now all of a sudden, things aren't that much fun anymore, well because of what's going on around.
Speaker 1Us external circumstances.
Speaker 4So we identified the blow highs in our life that were happening at the time, the things that were really worrying us and bringing us down.
Yeah, and once you identify that and you realize it's it's not you, it's not each other, it's something that we're going through together that is changing our circumstances.
So I think that talking about it for us was key and identifying what it was.
Speaker 1Communication is always number one.
But I also think that we communicated really well about it, and we also recognized and identified the things that we love to do together that are part of that exciting sexy thing which is going to a really sexy place to have a drink and then going to dinner there, or going away for the weekend.
Speaker 2Or bording time together alone.
Speaker 1Or especially our favorite thing, like the days when we don't have anything to do and we lay in bed until noon, Yeah, and we hang out, and we sort of took refuge in those things as much as we could when we were dealing with my mom passing away and your family and the pressures of all this other stuff.
It was like for me, I would always look to you and those things to kind of pull me out of the depression of the rest of it.
Speaker 2Right, we'll be right back after this short break.
Speaker 4And I also think it's important when when a couple is going through maybe a little bit of a mundane you know, things are changing, things are not as hot or as spicy as they used to be, and maybe you're bored, maybe you're disappointed, maybe you're thinking about getting out.
You know, aside from discussing it with your partner and really talking about it and voicing what it is that you would like to have back in the relationship, what it is that you miss, you can discuss that and talk about ways of bringing it back into the relationship, but don't blame the other person, like, don't say things like well you don't do this anymore and you're like this now, and you know, talk about the things that you miss, ask for what you want, Ask for what you want, but also start being the one with the change.
Start making the changes that you want to see in the relationship.
Speaker 2Don't wait, you.
Speaker 4Know, have the conversation, but don't leave it all on the other person.
And you keep acting exactly the same way that you're acting.
So bring in the things that you that you miss.
Start being the person that makes those changes, and hopefully your partner will join you in that.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's like as a man, I know some guys who when they complain about their partner not being as sexual, or not being as spontaneous or not being I always go, well, are you doing for her what she likes?
Speaker 2Are you?
Speaker 1Are you sitting and talking to her and listening to her, Are you, you know, touching her and holding her in a way that's not sexual and just loving?
Are you doing the things that she likes?
Yeah?
Speaker 4I think that you're absolutely right.
In order for things to be hot and spicy and still exciting in bed, the foreplay has to start you know, throughout the day, Yeah, with just you know, holding someone's hand, or leaning in and kissing someone's neck, or just acknowledging something nice about the other person, just you know, like you said, touching the other person, or we kiss throughout the day and we hold hands and we hug, and all that leads up to you know, by the time you we.
Speaker 1Also talk about we tell each other how hot we are for each other.
Speaker 2I think you can't stop doing that.
Speaker 1That's important because.
Speaker 4You're reminding each other that you still want each other, and it's important and to somehow throughout the day every day let each other know that you don't take them for granted.
Speaker 1This morning, we went to pilates, Yeah, and I was sitting I was looking at you, and we were laying next to each other beating our bodies up, and I was so happy that I that you got me into that.
And then that's something that we do together as a couple.
And then we left and we were walking to the car and you were in front of me, and I was looking at you and I was objectifying you, and I went, Wow.
Speaker 2What a hot piece of ass you are.
Speaker 1Oh, I love you, and it's true.
Speaker 4But you know, you need to keep that going.
I think that that's important.
That's an important part to keeping it hot and spicy, is you know, don't just be hot and spicy when you're in.
Speaker 1Bed, exactly.
That's a very that's very good.
Speaker 2Hot for each other all day long or every chance you get.
Speaker 4Obviously can't be all day long, but you know, when you do have a chance to be loving or to touch each other, give each other a kiss, a hug, or just acknowledge that you're not taking the other person for granted.
Speaker 1Exactly.
This is a good one.
I don't know the name, but it's spa brat on my Instagram.
After not being in a relationship for three plus years, how do you get back out there?
Speaker 2Oh?
Speaker 4I have the same question from Sandra, another person from the last from the previous group of questions that we took, and Sandra said, after being single for thirteen years, any tips on how to trust again?
So it's very similar to that question.
And you know this person said three years.
Speaker 1Three years, three plus years.
You know, we both know that you particularly know a couple of people who've been out of the dating scene and out of the relationship scene for years and years and years, and they have sort of settled into their life alone, but they clearly would love to, yeah, find someone or date or whatever.
So what do you say to people who've been off the market for a long time.
Speaker 4I think that the longer you are alone, the more difficult it is for you to get back on the.
Speaker 2Horse, so to speak.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4I think it's really important to just remember how to socialize.
It's really important to just remember how to be with a person that you may be romantically interested in.
Speaker 1Yeah, whether it's a good point, like, think about how many relationships started because you met someone through friends.
You were at a party, you were at a dinner, you were at somebody's house, and that's how it happens.
Speaker 4Absolutely, And I know these last you know, two years have been really difficult on everyone.
If you were single when the pandemic started, it's been hell because you haven't been able to date, you haven't been to go out for a long time.
And now people are just starting to get back out there.
Some people are too afraid to even get back out there, so they're not back on the dating scene.
But you know, like this, this woman, Saundra says, after being single for thirteen years, you know, so three years can easily turn into thirteen.
Speaker 1Years or longer.
Speaker 2Don't make it a point to put yourself out there.
Speaker 1So what does that mean?
Put yourself out there for I know what you mean, but.
Speaker 2Yeah, I click.
I think.
Speaker 4Opening yourself up to dating and to meeting people, not necessarily meeting your next relationship, but meeting someone who you may be interested in.
I think that people put too much pressure on a meeting or on a date, and you can't think of the outcome.
You have to just give yourself a chance to get to know someone.
Yeah, that's all that a date is.
It's just a conversation, you know.
It doesn't have to be about oh I have now I have to sleep with this person and I don't really like this person.
Speaker 2And oh now I don't really like this person.
How do I tell them?
Well, you just if you don't like someone, you never see them again.
Speaker 1Right, But also, like you referenced the guy we met a couple of nights ago, and he came to this dinner with a woman friend.
Yeah who I immediately thought they were a couple, but they weren't.
And they're both single and they're both great friends.
I don't know why they're not together, who's not my business.
But for whatever reason, they're not a romantic couple.
They're friends.
But they must have by putting themselves out there.
That's how they're friends.
Speaker 2Sure.
Speaker 1And that's another thing, is like, don't play so much pressure on it becoming the next thing.
The more you the more desperate you are to find the love of your life, the more elusive I think it is.
Speaker 4Yeah, I think we've said this before.
You have to get yourself to a good place where you're really happy with your life.
You're happy enough with your life that you would welcome someone into your life.
Just remember, don't bring someone into your life who is going to bring your life or your living circumstances or your lifestyle down.
Someone who is going to now be struggling or depending on you for help, or someone who is broken and now you need to fix them.
That's not what you want to do.
It's up to everyone to get themselves to a good place.
Speaker 1I know that there are people who are wired in a way that they feel they need to rescue people and they but it's never good for you.
Speaker 4But that's usually someone who needs to be rescued themselves.
If you feel like you need to.
You're constantly finding people who are broken.
Speaker 1And you can't be rescued by someone else.
You can rescue yourself.
Speaker 4So if your pattern is that you find people who are just broken or not ready to be in a relationship and you're trying to help, that's that's a reflection of where you are with yourself.
Other people are looking at you and also thinking, oh, they're not really one hundred percent either, you know, So bring yourself to one hundred percent, and then you'll find someone who is pretty much at that point as well in their life, and then you can come together and have a nice time.
But you know, for the for the woman who said after being single for thirteen years and she wants to trust again, Look, it doesn't matter how long you've been single.
Trust is an issue.
We all are hoping that we can trust the person that we start seeing.
But you have to get to know people.
And trust isn't something that you can say, oh, now I trust people.
No trust case, trust has to be earned.
Yes, trust is not something that you ask for or look for.
It has to be earned.
You know, the other people have to earn your trust and you have to earn their trust.
It goes both ways, and the only way that you're going to figure that out is by getting to know each other, by spending time with each other without any pressure, when without any attachment to the outcome.
Give yourself, you know, a few dates to get to know someone and just say to yourself, if this doesn't turn into a romantic relationship, maybe it'll just be a friendship.
Speaker 1And a few people who want to get back out there but are not.
They're not terribly social, or they have they have a very limited social circle.
You're very pro online dating, right.
Speaker 2I'm totally for it.
Speaker 4I haven't done it myself, but I think that if I were single, especially through the pandemic at this point in my life, I would give it a shot.
I think you have to be honest.
I think you have to, you know, do a little research on which site you think is more appropriate for you, which one works best for you.
Maybe you have to try a few.
But that is the new way of meeting people.
It's the same thing as going to a bar and checking everybody else who's at the bar out or you know, at the party or whatever, and you get your eye on someone, you see how they are.
You may just say hello, talk to them for.
Speaker 2A little while.
That's exactly what online dating is.
Speaker 1Yeah, so I've never I haven't asked you this.
If I ever did, it was ages ago.
So you didn't ever do the online dating.
But you're you would be open to it if we weren't together and you were I think so.
Yeah, Okay, you've said many times over the years that you would never You've never asked a guy out?
No, would you now?
No?
Speaker 4But if you knew a guy, no, Only because not that there's anything wrong with that.
I think it's totally fine to ask a man out.
And I think, especially today, men have kind of taken taken the hint and they sit back and they wait for women to ask them.
Many men do.
However, the men I have been interested in, the men that I see myself, that I saw myself with, was not the kind of man who was going to sit around and wait for a woman to ask him out.
That's just not the kind of character that I am attractive to.
Now, with that said, it doesn't mean anything.
It's just one of my hang ups.
It's just one of my things.
I prefer for the man to make that move.
That's just how I don't know.
Maybe maybe if I was still single, I would have changed my mind on that, but I like for a man to take that lead.
Speaker 2Initially.
Speaker 4Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything.
That's just me and my stupid old fashioned way of thinking.
Speaker 2I know that you know.
Speaker 4Many, many relationships that are great relationships start out with a woman making that first time.
Speaker 1So even though you feel that way personally, you would gladly say to a friend who you didn't who you knew wasn't hung up on that, ask him out.
Speaker 4Sure, Yeah, I don't see why not.
Okay, I don't see why not.
I mean unless you're like me, where you appreciate the kind of man who would take the lead on that.
Speaker 2You know, I just I don't know.
Speaker 4That's very personal.
But you know, if you're online dating, then you're putting yourself out there and you have to make as much of a move as the other person, or the very least respond.
You know, if you're not going to be the person to ask the man out, or if you don't want to be the person to ask to do the asking, because I mean it could be you know, a same sex relationship and you just still don't want to be the person to do the asking.
You want to be asked.
Then it's all about putting the right signals out there and letting that person know that you would be open to dating or to getting to know each other differently.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think before we move on to the next question, I think it's really important.
And I know we've hammered this on several of our podcasts, but it's a really important piece of advice people who are asking, you know, how do I get back out there?
How do I find the right person?
How do I That's all valid, But the most important thing you can do is what you've mentioned is setting up your life in a way where if you do find someone to share that with and you have a great time, wonderful, congratulations.
But if you don't, or if it takes a long time, in the meantime, you're happy doing what you do.
You have your friends, you have your stuff that you like to do, you have your your comfortable and happy being alone.
Speaker 4The minute that happens, everything opens up for you.
Yeah, you start attracting people into your life.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4When I was single before I met you, I was at a I was at a time in my life where I was dating.
I wasn't dating anyone exclusively.
It was just very casual, and I mostly did that just so that I wouldn't forget how to relate to men.
Yeah, just so that I would remember what it's like to socialize that way.
And many times it didn't turn into anything romance, Like many times, you know, we wouldn't even kiss good night.
It was just meeting somebody for drinks, having good conversation, and then deciding whether you wanted to have another date or not, or deciding whether this was just going to be a friendship.
You don't have to go on every date, you know, tessing the person out, like, is this going to be the next it's going to be someone who wants.
Speaker 2To marry me?
You Yeah, you don't know.
Speaker 4You don't know.
So go into the dates, just as if you're going on a date with a friend, just as if you're going out to dinner with a friend.
Just get to know the person, get to know each other and let your guard down, really show them who you are, because if you start putting on errors and being fake and you're so nervous that you can't be yourself, then it's not fair because the person starts liking someone who you are not.
Yeah, I think it's really important just to put yourself out there and you know, sure, be nice, be.
Speaker 2Respectful, but be yourself.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4And this way, you know that if that person calls back and if you continue seeing each other, it's because they really like the real you.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's great, You'll be right back after this short break.
Okay, next, this is again anybody's name, I can it's just a handle.
But this is a good question.
How do you two find a good balance of spending time together and spending time apart.
My husband and I have been together for twenty four years, and we find that having time to ourselves individually really makes the time we spend together that much more valuable.
Great question.
And the first thing is, if you haven't been told this, or if you're on the fence about this, there is a major difference between loving being alone and not wanting to be with your partner.
There's a huge difference.
Yeah, and I'm fifty eight years old.
I've you know, I've always I'm an only child, so I grew up alone.
I grew up without siblings and without a lot of friends.
I spent a tremendous amount of time alone, which it turns out served me really well in my chosen profession because that's a real solitary thing, creating songs and writing lyrics and so.
But even aside from that, I learned really early on to love my own company, to be really comfortable being alone, to the point where as you know, I crave it sometimes, and it's got nothing to do with being away from you or anyone else.
It's got to do with just really enjoying and needing time to be completely just with me.
Speaker 4I think that is so important, and it's something that the younger generation now has a real problem with.
When you and I were kids, and I mean I have a younger sister, but we weren't close enough in age where we hung out together all the time.
So yeah, I did spend a lot of time with myself, and so did she.
And we grew up at a time, as did you, where our parents were busy and their entire lives did not revolve around making a schedule for us Jesus and finding things for us to do.
Speaker 1Kids are so scheduled now.
Speaker 4So now kids are so scheduled that, you know, I have a friend who at the beginning a couple of friends actually with kids at different ages.
You know, one was nineteen and another one with a twelve year old, who both said that the children went through so much psychological trauma because they couldn't see their friends or have their regular scheduled socializing that they really suffered emotionally and psychologically.
Speaker 2And that's because.
Speaker 4People aren't taught to just ever have downtime quiet time.
Speaker 2So if you go through your entire life.
Speaker 4With an entire schedule, a social schedule, a school schedule, then a work schedule, and then a social schedule, and the minute that that dies down and you have maybe a day to yourself, you freak out, You pack, you don't know what to do.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's awful.
Speaker 4So for us, you know, it's really important for many people to spend some time alone to do their own thing, whether you know you have hobbies or reading, or whether you have friends that you want to catch up with that you don't always have to be in a couple situation, you know, I think it's so important, and a lot of times people who don't like their partner going off.
Speaker 2And doing things on their own.
Speaker 4I have to say that there might be a trust issue there, because if you really trust the person who you're with, and you love the person you want to see them happy.
You want them to do what they want to do, what makes them happy.
Yeah, whether that's with or without you.
If you're secure in your relationship, then you need to allow room for each other to do your own thing.
Speaker 1Yeah.
I think that that balance is crucial.
Like you and I are together ninety eight percent of the time.
Speaker 4Yeah, but that's because we were robbed of a lot of time previously.
Speaker 1But also because and this is important too, because there are a lot of couples who don't who can't relate to this or don't have this dynamic.
But you and I can be alone.
Speaker 2In the same room.
Speaker 1You're over there doing your thing.
Yeah, I'm reading my shit, I'm you know whatever.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't care what you're doing.
You don't care what I'm doing.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's like, and I know, technically that's not what this person's talking about it.
Yeah, but there is something really valuable to that in a relationship as well.
Speaker 2Yeah, to be to be physically together but also very.
Speaker 1Independent of each other, it's important.
It's really important that said, you know, you, once in a while have a girl's night, or I'll go hang out with Matt or one of my friends and I love when you do that or when I do that, because then I can't wait to hear about what you did, and you want to know what we talked about.
Speaker 2You know, a lot of times.
Speaker 4It's difficult because couples get into a routine of going out with other couples, and it's very difficult to find couples where you both are close to.
Speaker 2Both of them.
Speaker 1Holy shit, is it hard?
You know?
Speaker 4And of course there are couples that you like and that you you know, you all have a great time when you go.
Speaker 2Out, but it doesn't always just have to be that.
Speaker 4Sometimes, you know, you have relationships with friends that are not part of a couple, and that doesn't mean that you can and see them because they're not part of a compy.
Speaker 1You and I both have single friends, yeah, and to hang out with.
Speaker 4It's important for you to keep those friendships.
And you know, you have some friends that I just I'm not particularly looking forward to getting to know them any further, Like they're not my scene, but they're good friends of yours, and you need to keep those relationships alive, right whether or not I want to join that or not, you know, And I think that keeping that individuality and even.
Speaker 1Down to I mean, I don't know that you and I have examples of this, but if we did, it would be one hundred percent okay.
Is to have interests that are separate from each other totally.
You know, if I were into some activity that you were like, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4Care, right, and then you go and you do that on your own or with your friends.
It also keeps it more interesting because you have more things to talk about.
I think if you're constantly together and just doing the same things all the time, then what do you have to talk about if you're if there's nothing that you've done on your own that you want to tell the other person about.
It's really important to keep your individuality, and I know that that that changes quickly.
Speaker 1Uh.
Speaker 4There are a lot of people who whose friends and their friendships kind of fall out when they start dating someone new, which is understandable at the beginning, but it's important to take care of all your other relationships as well as your romantic relationship or as well as your marriage.
You know, it can't it can't be just about the two of you, because then you become an island and that is putting way too much pressure on each other.
Speaker 2I think it.
Speaker 4Makes for a much more happy relationship when there are outside interests and things to talk about, when there is trust and like, I'm genuinely happy when you're doing things that fulfill you, that make you happy, when you catch up with your friends, and do.
Speaker 2I miss you?
Speaker 4Yeah, And sometimes I'm like, oh, I kind of wish we were doing something today, But I love you so much that.
Speaker 2I want you to be happy.
I want you to do what you want to do.
I don't want to control what you do.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's really important.
Yeah, this is a you know, switching to a really serious topic here for a second.
This person wants to know how does Daisy Flintest feel when fans hug and kiss you and throw their panties on the stage.
Does it make you feel uncomfortable in any way?
First of all, at this stage, if I get panties thrown up on stage, there depends top it.
I'm just saying, Okay, I had to just repeat that question.
Speaker 2I've seen some thoughts.
Speaker 1I just had to repeat that question.
This is I saw this a couple of times.
This is Shanny, who she and her sister come to have come to a bunch of my gigs.
She said, Hey, hotties, I like her already have any advice for couples that have to be long distance for weeks at a time.
How do you keep the trust and lust going without being able to touch?
How do you feel about long distance relationship?
Speaker 4I think that that's a really tough one.
If it's a long distance relationship where you know that it's just a limited amount of time, you know, but that person is going to come back or you're going to go and be with that person again, then I think a good relationship can survive that.
But if you met long distance and you have a long distance relationship and you have not met, that's not really a relationship, right.
Or if you've met only briefly for spirit any time together, and now you've you're going on like a couple of years of this, then you're both living separate lives and I don't think that that ever works.
You need to spend time with each other other to know that you can trust each other and to know whether you can survive a bit of a long distance relationship.
And again, it's different for everyone.
I'm sure there are people who love that they have a long distance relationship.
They because they like spending time alone, or it just works for them, or they're the type of personalities.
Speaker 2But that's rare.
Speaker 4I think for most relationships, you need to spend time together, You need to really get to know each other and be there for each other.
If you live, you know, in different time ones, or if you live really far away from each other, all you have is FaceTime calls and the you know, texting and emailing.
Speaker 2That's that's really difficult.
Speaker 1It also depends on what you want out of the quotes relationship and the relationship definition is you know, depends on that.
It's very subjective.
So I would say that, yeah, I hear you.
If you, if you, if you're classifying it as a classic relationship where you're together and you're a couple, then yeah, I agree with you.
But there are also relationships where it's casual and you do your thing.
Speaker 2Oh sure, that's their thing.
Speaker 1You hook up, you have fun sexually, you have fun conversations, but you don't need to be together all the time.
Speaker 2Right, And that's fine.
But that's fine if both.
Speaker 4Of you are aware that that's what it is, right, Because if one person is thinking that at some point something is going to change, those never really because Eventually, someone is going to meet somebody in their town or someone they work with, and they're just going to end up spending more time with that person, get to know that person better, and someone is going to be surprised by that.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 4So I think as long as you understand each other and you make it very very clear what's expected in that relationship or how you see that relationship, and still I think it's very difficult.
I am not a fan of long distance relationships.
I've never seen one work.
Speaker 1Have you ever had one?
Speaker 2No?
Speaker 4No, I know people who have, and it works for a little while.
It works temporarily, but on a long term basis, there are problems, problems always.
Speaker 1I had one when I was really young, and it was again, it was really exciting for the first ten minutes, and then it was like, you can't.
It's difficult, you can't be Yeah, you can't get invested, you can't.
Speaker 4I think the times have changed so much that where people are so used to just communicating via socials and.
Speaker 1Well it's also a little different technology you were younger, in that you know, you have FaceTime, you have you can really sort of be together without being together as close as as close as you can come without actually physically being together.
Speaker 4Oh, it's definitely much better and much more doable.
But does it work long term?
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 1I'm with you.
Yeah, I thought this was a good question too.
Have you ever had a different Oh?
This is from Liz in London, who's wonderful.
She's a big supporter of both of ours.
Liz McEwan, have you ever had a different point of view that you haven't been able to resolve?
If you have, would you just agree to disagree or more likely talk about it until you reach a compromise, She said.
I somehow I don't see this being applicable to you guys, But you know, nothing important.
I don't think that you can agree to disagree about something that's important.
Yes, that's fundamentally important when it comes to philosophies or opinions about things.
First of all, you and I agree about most everything.
Speaker 4Yeah, And then when we don't agree on something, we are two people who really should have been lawyers because we can argue the shit out of anything.
Speaker 2One hund Yes.
Speaker 1And the first thing that comes to mind is we've I think we've argued about it on this podcast.
Is the concept of karma yeah, you believe in karma.
I don't, right, and you have spent years trying to prove to me that karma is real and that I'll go no, but but then I'll give you example after example, and Daisy does this fucking thing that drives me credule.
We should go, well, maybe that's just their karma, and I go, fuck you see.
Speaker 4It when it comes to us, like, I love you so much that I know that the right thing to do is to just listen to your point.
Speaker 2And I do and then just try to understand it.
Speaker 4But when it comes to us, I just want to convince you that I'm right.
Speaker 1Right, let's do I Like, I don't like that you disagree with me on anything, so I want you to agree with me.
Yes, there have been times when you've convinced me.
Yeah, and I think that I mean fewer, but there have been a couple of times when I've brought you to my side on certain things.
But how often that doesn't happen to us?
Very often?
Speaker 4And not, like you said, not with anything important.
It could never anything with things in the news, or with social issues, or with things that are going on or you know, and yeah, a lot of things based on lifestyle or on self improvement, you know, because we read a lot of self improvement type.
Speaker 1We don't disagree on that stuff.
Speaker 2Well, sometimes you do.
Speaker 4Sometimes I will be listening to someone You're like, that guy's a dick, and then you won't hear anything that I have to say, just because you've decided that the guy's a dick based on like two things that I've told you about, or whoever it is that I'm reading about.
Speaker 2You know that that is telling me this.
Speaker 1So I can be dismissive.
Speaker 2You can be very.
Speaker 4Dismissive, and that only challenges me even more to convince you.
Speaker 1But I think part of in my defense and there's no excuse for it, I'm not excusing it.
I'm just saying.
I'm just explaining.
I think that I've done so much work and reading on that topic a lot thanks to you because you and you introduced me to some amazing writers and and uh Phis philosophers and speakers and people with amazing ideology about how we should be as you know, how we can be better, and how we can be better.
That I've gotten to the point where you got to come up with something really unique now because I know, I know it all.
I know it all.
I get it all.
Speaker 2Do you do you really?
Speaker 1I'm saying, I obviously don't know it all, but I know most of it.
And so when somebody hits me with something that I find to be kind of rudimentary and I've heard that, I read that in eleven other books.
Speaker 4Yes there is that, I get it.
But sometimes there is something that registers differently.
Yeah, I have read books, and you got to stay open.
You got to stay open.
The minute that you think that you know it all and that you've heard it all is the minute you start dying.
That's the minute you're done.
So, yes, I know that a lot of things are set.
I know that a lot of things you know are said in different ways and it's the same thing.
They're saying the same thing.
But sometimes you have to receive it differently.
Sometimes it's how you receive it and what you make out of what you're reading.
It will mean different things to you in different stages.
Speaker 2Of your life.
Speaker 1That's true.
Speaker 4And sometimes you read something where ninety five percent of it is shit that you're either not interested in or that you've already read and already understand.
But there will be a few of the things.
There is that five percent that that person has to say or the way they're explaining something that hits you differently and changes a little something in you or makes you a little bit better, or it's something that you put into practice your daily life that benefits you.
Speaker 2You have to remain open to that.
You can't.
Speaker 4The minute you think that, it's like, oh, well, then I'm set in my way.
Is I know everything I'm going to know.
No one has anything new to tell me.
You don't ever want to think like that.
But I see how it's I see how it's easy to think.
Speaker 1And also my experience, which you know, I have to remind myself with this.
My experience is it's never, not never.
But it's really the huge concepts that someone will lay on me that makes me wake up.
It's the little simple things.
It's just like you said, it's like taking a thought or a concept that we know and twisting it or turning it in their own way just a little bit so that you go, oh, I never thought about it that way.
Yeah, So yeah, you got to stay open.
Yeah, but we're really lucky that way.
We don't.
We don't disagree about much.
Speaker 4Yeah, and it's okay.
Speaker 1How I dry my hair with a towel.
Speaker 2Well, we already fix that.
You're doing it correctly now, thank you, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1We have a couple more questions, but I'm gonna be honest.
I've been craving a motherfucking impossible burger today and we've done fifteen minutes.
And we can always come back to more questions later, but we need to go.
I need to go down the street to this great place that we love and get an impossible.
Speaker 2Well that's a very professional of you.
Speaker 1Well, no, we did the work.
Speaker 2I'm down.
Let's go.
Speaker 1Yes, you guys, we really appreciate you listening and your support, and we will see you guys next week.
Be safe and healthy.
Speaker 2Bye, take care of each other.
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