[Music] Hello everyone and welcome to this very special bonus episode of Meem Book Club where we watched the house made.

[Laughter] Who's the baby?

Baby did way and you know it's one of our favorite books we read so excited to get into this.

As always we are your host I'm Sarah Burton.

I'm Johnna Scrabis.

And I'm Sabrina B.

Jordan and Clara we'll see.

That's always.

So you'll hear a joining at some point or you won't.

But yeah so wow this is like so crazy this we're never this topical and this on top of stuff because like the movie just came out and we watched it.

Yeah like literally just came out this weekend.

Yeah which is yeah like it's like some of us like how do you even know it only just came out this weekend or it's only in theaters like maybe the intention was to watch it at home like you watch all movies.

Wait Jana, Jana.

Did you did you watch the movie?

So my own difficulty.

Well like okay is it easy to watch a movie yes you know and the only challenge that I ran into was that it was not available in my home and so that is something that I did discover today.

Yeah and I mean another issue was like Matt didn't even know we were recording an episode let alone that he needed to make time today the weekend that we moved to do it.

Yeah.

I mean for me to go to a theater.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um rude of him.

Yeah I was.

How what the fuck is up with him not just knowing that on his own.

He has access to my calendar Sabrina.

He could check it anytime.

Okay.

No he's what it is.

Has he ever checked is that a thing he does?

I believe when he tries to play on his guy trips he does look at my calendar at those times.

I think it feels like things are missed like a wedding you know.

I think I think I think I think I think I'll go to a show like John Aiden Chicago.

Okay all right.

All right well I guess this is a podcast where two out of three of us have watched the movie but John Aiden you're gonna be representing the book perspective.

I would love to have a deal with honor.

All right you remember the book?

Of course.

Sabrina.

Okay.

A young woman is hired to be the house keeper/live in nanny of a man and woman rich couple and little by little she realizes things are not what they seem.

Okay okay you do remember or very quickly googled either way.

I'm right here.

I'm right here.

I'm the only one hand.

Oh no I see the other one.

Okay.

You're the member.

Okay well we'll be excited to see if you remember.

There are some differences from the book and movie but I'm sure we'll get into it.

The movie version that we're discussing the house made is directed by Paul Feig.

The screenplay.

Oh partner.

Is that...

Oh is that what he did?

Did he do that as well?

I imagine.

I associate him with Paul.

He seems Paul.

Is that why is that actually something he did?

No I just need to have this confirmed.

Okay.

He did bridesmaids.

He did do bridesmaids.

He did a simple favor which makes sense.

I feel like that's the most...

This movie is the most akin to that.

There's no connection between all the people.

He can't fall flat.

Maybe it's just that they both have like kind of a farty sort of last name.

Okay yeah yeah.

Yeah yeah let's just go on.

Well maybe you knew something but...

Pierce is no.

I was gonna make it in the first place.

I was gonna make it in the first place.

Sounds like all right.

The screenplay obviously the book is freedomic fad and we've talked about the book a little bit more but we talked about her.

If you want to hear our review of the book you know check out that episode but and the screenplay was by Rebecca Sunnenshine.

She adapted it from the novel obviously and I just...

She was a writer producer on the boys that's superhero show and I was on Prime which I really like so I was like okay that's promising going into it.

And the movie stars Sydney Sweeney Amanda Sifried Brandon Sclenar Michelle Morone Elizabeth Perkins.

I don't really know what what is Brandon Sclenar been in.

He's...

Is he the...

what is he in?

He's in 1923 baby.

Oh is that what his big thing is?

I was just like I'm sure I've seen him in something but I...

He wasn't it ends with us?

Didn't we watch that?

Yeah he was um...

We...

well we read the book and...

I mean I definitely watched the movie.

Old friend.

He's the like right?

Yeah.

He's an old-ware friend.

Was he at this?

At last.

He was at last.

Oh he was the good guy in that.

Oh what a fun.

Oh okay wow he's so cute.

I agree.

He is a extremely handsome.

I feel like I would have been interested to see someone else maybe this role but not like their body.

His body was very good in this.

I have no interest in seeing anyone else in anything.

I will be the only actor I need.

Do you need...

I thought Michelle Morone.

Do you guys...

do you remember that guy?

The guy who plays the Italian?

He's um...

Oh my goodness.

And so?

And so.

And so by the way John and the movie is like a nothing burger.

No he's the best part in the book.

He's...

well I mean I would say he makes...

he's had a much bigger role in the book.

Really downgraded.

And I was actually surprised because once I saw it was like Michelle Morone.

I was like oh that hot guy from that 365 days Netflix erotic movie.

Yeah I don't know what you speak of but I am interested.

Wait oh my god wait have you not?

Wait hold up hold up.

Sabrina have you not seen 365 days on Netflix?

No.

Okay I almost want to say like drop everything.

Let's stop recording.

This is like I probably watched it like five.

Is this like hotter than heated rivalry?

Oh that's hard.

It's...

oh it is...

It is...

It is...

I don't want to say it's a similar vibe.

It is like...

Well it's erotic.

It's just an erotic.

It's just like...

So erotic?

It sounds nice to me.

Okay so...

I also haven't seen it but I looked up the image like the...

You know I don't know the release materials.

And so you guys know how side boobs are thing, under boobs is a thing, obviously cleavage is a thing.

I'm seeing a version of boob I've never seen before.

Yeah.

Photo promoting 365.

Yeah.

Like a purple.

It's like a corner.

It's a whole new way to show boob without showing nipple.

But essentially it's a mafia guy who's Michelle Morone plays.

He kidnaps a woman, a Polish woman.

And forces her.

And forces her to be his prisoner for 365 days so that she will fall in love with him.

So...

Okay this sounds a little less consensual than he did rivalry.

Oh sure it is.

That's what I mean.

I don't want to say it is heated rivalry.

It's heated rivalry in that it's very heated.

It's yeah.

But I mean I really recommend it.

It's funny.

The sex scenes are insane and they're funny.

Like I think it's funnier than heated rivalry because it's so over the top.

That makes sense.

Okay.

There's nothing funny about heated rivalry.

Yeah yeah yeah that's true.

No this is it's like so bad it's funny kind of thing.

Yeah it has a 3.3 out of 10.

I have DB.

I'm off 365.

No no no no get back on it.

You have to watch it.

You have to watch it at least like watch like until the yacht fucking scene.

Like please at least watch to the yacht fucking.

Okay that does.

That does sound like something I could get to.

Some of the criticisms include romanticizing kid napping.

Yeah that's it.

Yeah it is.

No step one.

It turned me off.

Excessive sex scene.

Excessive.

Well that should be good.

Right.

Right.

You got it.

You just got it.

Okay but back to this fucking movie.

Anyway I guess why brought him up is the cast him and I was like oh well he's gonna fucking this movie.

Like because in the book doesn't Enzo end up with the mean like don't they there's some sex.

Yes they have.

I don't think they ever have sex right.

It's like they have a connection and then they something more.

Yeah but like he shows her affection and helps her get out of the relationship.

Yeah this is he's a lot less.

That happens on a light level in the movie.

Yeah but mostly it's Amanda's or Amanda's.

Amanda say Fried who honestly I don't know what you think Sabrina she was star of the show like still the movie.

Oh yeah so good.

Other than you know Brandon but yeah but just like played it perfectly.

Yeah she was so good.

Right Amanda camp etc.

Release date December 19th in the theaters.

131 minutes are for violent sexual content.

Yeah so uh but I should have kept watching.

Oh yeah I mean I was just like two hours and 11 minutes is long.

Yeah it feels like it's how much long movies are these days.

I don't so right I'm gonna use to the like hour and 45 but I loved it.

I could have kept watching forever.

I did yeah I feel like um I don't know.

I don't remember what I said on the podcast when we read this book but uh no many other I feel like this was such an upgrade from the book the movie.

I was so I felt no like when I would well yeah for you.

When I was going into it I thought oh that was a pretty good book like a fun like a fun little romp.

I bet the book will be better than the movie and it's kind of hard to say because the movie was or the book was so long ago right but I left the movie being like I feel like the movie was better than the book.

I feel like the movie was like this story was designed to be a movie and it was so fun as a movie.

They took away things so like um and Johnny remember this that the oh goodness now this is horrible the Winchester Nina Rit Winchester who like you know is crazy or appears to be crazy throughout um that she was like eating a bunch and getting fat or - They took some stuff like that out.

- Amanda Safreed was, absolutely not.

I do not need to be fat for this.

- It didn't need it.

It was a few-- I feel like the book was funny, because it was so much of her character being insane, to a point where it was like, why?

- The movie didn't need that, but they were like, we can just do these insane things, and that's enough really.

- Yeah.

- And it was like, we can do that, that's what we're doing.

- You know what I mean?

- I mean, I do know that, because I'm not trying to do it.

- Yeah.

- Yeah, 'cause in the book, the idea that she was overeating was to make herself so repulsive to her husband, and the way to do that was to gain five pounds.

(laughing) - Well, I will say, that seemed even based on the movie, like it would have worked.

- Actually true, that's true.

Yeah, he was, he had a list, I think of her.

- It was like, you know, having teeth is a privilege.

- Having hair is a privilege.

- She is.

- And I can't have them root-scrawling out.

- Yeah.

- Which is something my friends parents did to them when they were kids.

They, the hair is a privilege.

They weren't brushing it enough, so their parents cut it off.

- No.

- No.

- As a kid, they were my friends, and I was like, I love their hair.

I want to have all my hair cut off too, and luckily my mom was like, no, that's okay.

(laughing) - No.

- Wait, I cannot believe, that's like really disturbing, because part of the whole premise is that like, oh, the mom was like controlling the hand, and then he's playing it.

- Uh-huh.

Uh-oh, my default microphone, okay, hold on.

Sorry.

- You still sound so good.

- I do.

- Yeah, yeah.

But I was able to then take matters to my own hands, when I was 12, you know, and I famously played Frederick in the sound of music, and I cut my own hair at that time.

So I was my own punishing step-other.

- There was so much that happened in that sentence.

- I know.

I'm just vamping 'cause Sarah's microphone is having micrphone issues, so.

(laughing) - And as we know, I have nothing to say about the movie, so I'm just saying what I can.

- Man, I'm really so sad for you.

You gotta go.

- Me too.

- I mean, I guess wait for it to come to your home theater at this point, but.

- My whole theater.

- Your home, like there isn't one.

- My beautiful spot.

- My beautiful spot.

- All right, it's okay, we're back.

I don't know what happened there, but hello.

And we're not cutting the knife 'cause this is a bonus.

- You're like, are you sad hello?

You could have just zoomed through it, and it's dead.

- I made it worse.

- We're gonna spend as much attention to it as you could.

- Oh well, sorry.

Well, I'm here, and still talking about that goddamn, the goddamn movie.

- 18 minutes ago, we're still talking about the movie.

We still talking about the movie that we promised we would talk about.

What other change, like a, there was a thing with C.C.'s allergies in the book.

- Oh, right, actually, don't remember what it was.

It was a peanut allergy.

- It was a allergic to peanuts, and then, or should we ask you what it was in?

And she claimed she was.

I don't know.

I think there was a lot of stuff like that that they cut, and I'm like, yeah, it was stupid.

It was like too much.

It was such a slow burn before, I guess the twist was revealed, slow burn, but it was like, she, her character was so insane.

Yeah, this seems like the character was insane.

Also, they showed, in the movie, they showed the little girl, C.C.

she's like playing with her dollhouse, and she's acting out, and she shows she's like having the daddy character being like, don't do this, it's a privilege.

So, like, they were hinting at the fact that, it's actually the dad who's the crazy one, which I don't think they, I'm pretty sure for the book, it was like, what the fuck?

It was, they were like, no hints.

I'm pretty sure.

- Yes, it was like, Andrew was a true saint, and I think at the beginning of the moot, like it took basically until the dollhouse.

No, there was one moment where he was like, oh, your roots are growing in, and that could have been fun and flirty, but it wasn't, you know, it was crazy.

- And then there was like the privilege thing, and yeah, it was just better paced in the movie.

- It was, it was much better paced, and I think the one other, the big things, the ending was changed, in that, in the book, I mean, we can all talk about the specifics, but in the book, at the very end, the melee character just leaves him in the attic too long, and he dies, right?

- Yeah.

- Like she was just walking, she was like, oops, it's not very cathartic.

It's like, it's actually very funny, but in this one, they changed it.

They have Nina coming back, thinking she's saving, Millie being trapped in the closet, or trapped in the attic, she opens the door, but he busts out, and then like, they get a good, you know, there's a nice, like, him being a psychopath, trying to convince her.

- He's got a lot of strength for someone who's been in that attic for a while, stabbed in the neck, ripped out his own teeth.

- But like that door, let's give it up for the strength of that door, because like, I thought-- - That is, that was crazy in the book, and it was crazy in the movie, that little wooden door, I feel like I could get through it.

- Yeah, or at least like the window, it's like, you can't break that.

- It's glass.

- Yeah, what is it made of?

- I wanna know what your house was built, you know?

- Yeah.

- 'Cause they don't make houses like that anymore.

- Yeah, that's true.

- But she was, yeah, happily living in that attic.

Yeah, anyway, so there's like a fun confrontation where you get to see him, like, his tooth missing, he looks psychotic, putting on the charm, putting on the charm with Nina and being like, let's just put this under the rug and come back, baby, and then like, Sydney Swini gets to pop out and push him, and he falls down the stairs and-- - They get to murder him.

- This is a murdering.

- We've gotten here really fast, but it highlights a few of the issues that I do have with the movie.

- Okay, okay, fair.

- Okay, so in the movie, we have the mom, Nina Winchester, who leaves, and she's free because he basically is like, I love Sydney Swini now.

Old, haggard, Amanda Saferead, you have to leave.

(laughing) And so she does, and then she's like so excited about it, she's screaming with joy.

And then it cuts to her writing a letter to her daughter, and she's like, if you are reading this, you're either 18 or I'm dead.

But as it turns out, and for reasons not fully explained, her and the daughter are just together in like the next scene.

So like, I actually picked her up from camp, but like, why was she writing that letter?

- I thought maybe she wrote the letter earlier.

I was, yeah, but yeah, go ahead.

- Well, and the reason she wrote-- - Well, no, 'cause like it had details about Sydney Swini in it.

So the real reason she wrote the letter is so that we as the audience could see the history of what happened.

- Oh yeah, so we could find out, yes, so they could do the rewind.

- So we could find it out.

But then it seemed like the person who did read the letter, 'cause like the daughter was now with mom and doesn't need the letter, but it seemed like Sydney Swini had the info from the letter once she had been locked in the room, 'cause she kind of knew about Andrew's things of like, XYZ is a privilege, and but she didn't seeming she had heard it as well.

- I agree.

- They did, they did, I think at that point, they were just like, Sydney figured it out.

- Like, yes, but-- - Well, Milly figured it out and we don't need to have anybody tell her or have it explained.

- That was a bit crazy.

- That part did not, but I was like, let's go, let's move.

I like it.

- I like this face.

- It did like, it really switched the type of movie that was, which was like such a fun and dramatic switch, like all of a sudden it's like, this is a thriller.

It really reminded me of Gerald's game, if you guys remember that one.

- Not well, not well at all.

- One of the worst Stephen King in history.

- Well, there's a movie with that lady who's always in the haunting of Montelog.

- The haunting of Montelog house, yes.

- Yeah.

- Still not with you, but all right.

- You know.

- Is that one of the little men?

- Is that the one where he's like in a bedroom or like trapped in a room?

- Yeah, chained up.

- Okay, I kind of vaguely remember that.

- Maybe a dog eats part of his body?

- Yeah, he's just like, man.

- Sounds right.

- Oh, also the other, another change, Donna, is when Milly is trapped in the attic, instead of it being like, what the fuck, balance book.

So on your head, or something like that in the book.

- Oh yeah.

- Oh yeah.

- No, stab your stomach with shards of a plate.

So it was way more intense.

- Okay, I can see why book went for books.

It was like anything to encourage for reading, buying a book.

And movie said, you know, booksy-ucky, let's have it be a little more than a little blackster.

- Sorry, no blackster.

- They didn't do DVD, you know, that would've been.

(laughing) - Yeah, see that.

- I should've just, little scale models of movie theaters.

- Aren't these fun?

- Yeah, I love these.

- These, these.

- Come to these, come to these.

- Piss off.

(laughing) - Eat popcorn.

- All sorts.

- I felt like that.

- Pepsi is a good product.

- Once she switches the scene.

So like what happens in the movie is very similar to what happens in the book, which is like, she gets locked in there 'cause she thinks they're gonna have SEX in there.

- And they do, they have a lot of the SEX.

- Yeah, but in this particular time, he's locking her in this room.

And then I guess Nina has left her like a cheese knife to stab him in the neck with.

- Not some other fun.

- Which she does find.

- Not some other fun.

- Yeah.

And then she like switches and runs out.

But then I feel like she's just like way too confident that he's not gonna get out of the room and she's like kind of like taunting there.

And then she goes, how she got locked up was she dropped his grandmother's China.

And it's like really expensive.

And then she like didn't clean it.

But she comes up and she's like negotiating with him, right?

She's negotiating way too fast.

It is too much too soon.

She's like, wanna break a plate?

She breaks like seven of the plates.

I'm like, you're gonna have no leverage left.

If you break all of these fucking plates.

And then she turns it up again.

Pours gasoline on the floor.

- I love that.

- Lights a match.

- I love how crazy she was like, I'm gonna burn you.

I thought that was fun.

That was the most fun Sydney was when she was like, you know, making jokes about loving gravy and crack and then like smashing the gravy.

- Yeah.

- It was, it was, yeah, that was fun.

It was you like to see when they at Psychopath being tortured.

- It was good.

- Start by mentioning the gasoline.

And we're not lighting a match until never.

- Yeah.

Like you're there.

And also it's like you do have something to lose, right?

Like in this particular scenario, you don't know that Nina's gonna have your back yet.

That's your own parole girl.

Like you're going back to Bedford.

And it's really not gonna look like you didn't murder this man.

'Cause you did kill.

- And you stabbed him already in the neck with a, yeah.

That was the whole, so the thing that was the same that was crazy, Johnna.

I think our pretty similar to the book was that a man is obviously murdered and then the police show up and they're just, and she just needs like, I'll handle it.

It's like how?

Like we've been told the whole time there in his pocket.

And then the police officer just happens to be like, was it my sister or something, was Kathleen?

- Yeah.

- So like, which is the, - His first fiancee.

- Yeah, who you assume must have also had similar things happen to her and got away.

So she's like basically like wink, wink, nudge, nudge all.

But like, I think in the book it was a man and it was his daughter or something.

- Yes.

- But it was similar, but it was similarly kind of like felt a little stupid.

You're like, okay, how are you gonna hide the fact that she was, you know, he was obviously stabbed and miscended to it.

Like you can't cover all that stuff.

- The cop that arrives on the scene is not the last to process the case.

It's not like, it's not like, I actually think that this tab wound to the carotid is fine.

And so medical examiner turn away.

- Right, right.

(laughing) - Yeah.

- No, that's actually, there's several, several other people who are gonna look at this evidence.

- Yeah.

- But we're just supposed to be like, that's enough, okay, great.

Like this character, this Kathleen person who we heard mentioned once, kind of, it's kind of like a stupid person to come back at the end.

It's not even her.

It would have been easier.

- I was sure.

- Better it was her.

Like why not just make it her, I don't know.

- Also the way that they addressed Kathy or Kathleen, whatever was so strange, 'cause she was just like, yeah, I know him a little bit.

My sister was engaged for a while, which is also like, it doesn't even kind of follow the trope of he likes women who have nobody, so that he can trap them and they have nothing.

It's like she has an outstanding citizen of a sister.

And then she's like, she came back one day and was never the same since.

It was like, okay, so we just did nothing about-- - Why haven't you guys did nothing about-- - Yeah, you're a police officer.

You could have filed a report.

You kidding me, you didn't know.

- Well, what happened here?

- We didn't want to waste time saying this, but they were estranged sisters.

And so like, there are layers to this.

- Okay, so I'm sure that's on the editing room floor.

- It's on the editing room floor, I'm sure.

Just like, all the windows of sex scenes.

So that happens and then Sydney Sweeties character shows up at the funeral and she's like, here's $100,000.

Did that make you laugh?

- That was?

- I was like, that's, are you fucking kidding me?

- $100,000 is no money for murdering your husband.

- Okay.

- And it's like, she also tortured her before it happened, like pinned everything on her and only like last minute had a change of heart to help her anyway.

Like, it was like, that's all?

I don't think so, baby.

- I don't think so.

- I will say yes, in this world in general, $100,000 is like not even life changing money.

- No.

- That's like, oh, this is gonna be a good couple, like months.

- And also like, I'm sorry, but like, yes, she's not living in New York City, but she's living right on Long Island.

Any cheap.

- Any cheap.

- That's not a down payment.

- And so instead what she does is set her up to be a nanny, and this is also in the book where, like, I think it's, and it worked even better in the movie.

- She's honored to fish.

- Where it's basically like, yeah, she sets her up with another woman who's battered with the idea that like, you'll help me.

- Another woman who has husband beats her.

- Yeah, right.

Specifically your husband beats her, and she's like, the idea is that city's wheelie is gonna take care of the husband, which is like so funny.

- Well, it is.

- It is so funny.

- I love that as a band thing, and I remember this was also our problem with the book.

I was just like, what time you're associated with this insane murder?

- Well, it's actually, but it's, she was in prison for murder for the first one.

- Right, so the second murder.

- So now there's nothing.

- I have a problem with in the movie.

Okay, in the movie she was like, I was actually in prison for murder, manslaughter of someone just like Andrew, someone rich, someone hot, blah, blah, blah, all this power, and then they got to him.

- And then he wasn't hot.

- Excuse me, you are not hot.

That is, I cannot believe we put him in the same conversation as my sweet, sweet Andrew.

- Also, I was confused because like, in that I know it was a quick scene, so everything had to happen fast, but it was like, she's like, look, she's just like, we hear the voice over, talking about it, and we see her looking and her, I guess her friend goes with this guy into a room, and then she falls them in maybe like 10 seconds behind them, and they're already on the ground, and the friend is being raped.

And it was just like, wow, that happened so fast.

- So fast.

- It's like, did she know, like, how did she know?

Why did she bust into the door?

Like, there was nothing that suspicious that was going on when that happened.

- And why did the roommate never say anything, they just like glazed over them.

- Well, they made sure like she did not, she denied it, so that's why she was charged with murder, because the roommate for some reason didn't also be like, yeah, he was raping me.

- Like, why?

- Why?

- Could they give us a little explanation?

- Seems insane.

Like, was that girl, can she be murdered?

- Sorry.

- Yeah.

- That's fucked up.

- Like, what's still, like, what happened there?

What happened?

- That was crazy.

And then she also beat up a boss.

- I think those things happen to book, but that doesn't happen to like later when we're like, find out that she was a murderer.

I would have liked to see some more aggression from her character earlier, like to hint at LaFacca.

We're gonna find this stuff out.

There's like, or nothing, absolutely nothing, but.

- No.

- If anything, she seems to be able to handle herself well.

I'm like, not react to psychopaths, but.

- Yeah.

- So it didn't really make, the character doesn't make sense as really well.

- I'm like, you're just making it.

- Something that does make sense for this character is that she sleeps in push up bras.

(laughing) - I'm usually the most comfortable of all the bras.

- Oh my gosh.

- Yes.

- So funny.

Her titties were all over this movie for-- - Woo!

Baby.

They were like, this is, we cast all three of them.

And she came down in the middle of the night, just like, quote, in her jammies with the, like, runway bust.

- Yeah.

- It was, it was, it was, it was so funny.

And then it's like, sweetie later, it's like, dress, like, make some comment after about, like, and it's like, yeah.

- Not to use any, I mean, I'd say, I'm sorry, Amanda is character, Nina.

She like, makes a comment to her about, like, I don't know, not dressing like a whore.

She doesn't say that, but it's still like, we're all on Nina's side here.

She's, it's crazy that she's walking around the house, dressed like that.

(laughing) - I will say, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

(laughing) - Also, it was like, I mean, I guess this is what this person had, but it was so funny because it was kind of like, Gen Z clothes, where it was like long baggy jeans, dragging on the floor, but then big push up, titty bra.

Like, I don't know.

It was a surprise.

- They have it, Gen Z hasn't destroyed the idea of the underwear altogether.

It just seems like something that they just like, what in the time.

- They don't wear a lot of underwear.

- I feel like you're right.

- Yeah, they're not into it.

- Mm-hmm.

- But.

- This is a lanyl.

- I don't know, but.

- Millie.

- Millie might be a lanyl.

- Yeah, Millie.

- Millie.

- Millie might be a lanyl.

- So funny.

I, yeah, I guess this book wasn't as insane, the movie did the insane better, but yeah, there's still a ton that was like, what the fuck?

- I didn't expect the nudity.

- I was.

- Oh, I was, I was fine with it.

And it did, and you know what was hard is, 'cause I watched it and I just got a spray tan.

So I had just seen myself fully in the nude.

- Yeah, yeah.

- And then to just, then to be like, oh, look at those hot bodies.

I was like, wow, this is affecting me in a way.

- Yeah, yeah.

It's, yeah, well there's something about heated rivalry right where everyone's a man.

And so I'm like.

- At least I don't think I can compare myself.

- I can't compare myself to that.

- I simply couldn't.

- I simply could not, but I could in this movie.

And I didn't come out on top of the computer and I didn't look at that.

- Right, you're like, I see why she's such a funny, like this character is obviously like a, you know, the idea is that, you know, it's a fantasy of like, you know, this woman who was gonna go murder all these men who are beating women, you know, it's like a liberal fantasy, but then her like celebrity character out in the real world is so like weirdly conservative.

I don't know, it's just an interesting juxtaposition.

- Yeah, which I have to set to the side in order to enjoy.

- Yeah, yeah, anything she does, but, oh, but some complaint, well, and maybe it was intentional, the sex scene.

- Mm-hmm.

- We just went right to it.

Very little build up.

And I feel like that should have been a red flag to Sidney Swini that he's a bad man.

- Oh, like they should have been making out and he should have been like, no, no, I can't kind of thing and then it should have been like-- - No, like there should have been a little foreplay.

- Oh, yeah, they, oh, I see, yeah, there was P and V pretty quick, yeah.

- So I don't know, but she had been with him all night.

They did, don't you think they did some dancing?

Her, I bet she got super wet when they were dancing.

- I guess.

- She was ready to go.

- She was like, that was an hour before.

- I don't know, it was that good.

- It was that, that good.

- Wait, what are my other, I don't know.

But I was delighted by that scene still.

I also loved the Oli Pop product placement.

- Look at it, I got to get my fiber.

- I love product placement.

- A lot of Sidney going, shitting in the toilet, showing the results of the Oli Pop.

(laughing) - So you go, oh, it works.

- Yeah.

- So great.

- So great of the pre-biotic.

- Not every product sponsor seems like the right fit at first, but you know, it just proves, those are showing you can make anything.

- Yeah, you gotta work it.

- You gotta work it.

- Yeah.

- My god.

- So, or go ahead.

- No, I'm just reading my notes.

Oh, the outfits that C.C.

and Sidney wore to the funeral, were so crazy.

- You see, it was in like leather pants and like light blue sunglasses.

- Well, they weren't really sad, so I guess.

- Yeah, I guess that's true.

- I thought there would be a lot more to the, and I think one thing that was not played well, but maybe I felt more in the book 'cause I was reading between lines, was the whole like, the stuff with Nina and her daughter and like when he traps her in that, and she's separated from her daughter, like I feel like, that's all I would have been talking about or asking about or worried about.

And then like, I just felt like later on, because they've been pretending to be a happy family and she's been pretending to be like the perfect dad.

It's almost weird that C.C.

didn't have some like, oh, but that's my daddy.

Or like, I feel like that girl's gonna have trauma, she's gonna not understand.

She just seemed like fine with him being dead and was like, yeah, I didn't like him either, but it's like, yeah.

I think you would have been more confused than that.

But I get, but you know, I'll excuse that for the movie, 'cause you guys, you both have created quite the director's cut of this movie.

Every character like gets just such a deep psychoanalysis.

We get to like, the movie starts five years earlier for each character and follows them through.

We gotta know, we gotta know the movie ends.

We gotta, so much happen, you gotta know.

So I gotta ask Johnna, hearing this, are you feeling like even, are you more or less sure that you wanna see this movie since we've been discussing it?

I'm way more disappointed than I did to the movie.

I mean, you've made it sound so appealing.

I'm already though preemptively disappointed about the end-zone stuff.

Like I'm already like angry about it actually.

Yeah, yeah.

So it's, those are the things that are mixing.

Is everything you're saying makes me feel like I really missed out on a beautiful movie going experience.

And to be part of this conversation more fully with you.

But, yeah, I'm mad.

Okay, I will say, I think one, I think it was a good, some of the cutting ends of some of the Kansas stuff I think was good because it lets, let's city swinees, Nina, have a little bit more agency or like, it became more like girl power, like teaming up together and it wasn't like she needed to rely on this man to help her figure out a plan and do all this stuff.

'Cause you know, and help her be free.

And like then I think in the book ends, I was like, are you sure you shouldn't go back?

(laughing) But like in this one, the dad, the daughter say something.

And I thought that it was like, it was a little bit more, they made it more girl power because then, I think that worked on film definitely.

I think that's great.

But I just say then, let's make time in the movie for more gardening, more pool-tending.

You know, like we can give him things to do.

It could be, you know what, the movie could start the day after a really bad storm.

And there's just a ton of leaves in the pool.

- Yeah, let's go make some noise.

- I don't know, yeah.

He wasn't really doing much anything with the pool.

There wasn't a, I don't even know if there was a pool, to be honest.

- In the book there's a pool.

- I don't remember.

- It felt like there was a pool, but I don't recall seeing one.

- Yeah.

- Mm-hmm.

- I think there's a pool.

- You know, they're wealthy enough, it makes sense.

- Yeah.

- Having not seen it and barely remembering the book, I'm pretty sure.

(laughs) - Yeah.

- But yeah, I guess, it was, yeah, I think dang.

So I guess this is like, this is also making me more inspired.

Again, this happens every year where I'm like, I need to write a book or I need to do this.

Like I could do this, I need to write this as a screenplay.

Should I do the book first?

I don't know.

It's so hard to decide when you can't even finish or start anything you think you can.

When is the, when is the, when is one at the time?

- But Sarah, you've never tried to do it in 2026.

- That's true, 2026 is my year.

I wanna, I wanna have my own house paid.

(laughs) - I agree.

In fact, I have one right now.

I currently have a house painter.

- Oh, house painter?

- Oh yeah, sorry, what did you say?

- I said house made, I said house made, but have, like them book, but brag about it, you know how?

- I don't have a painting now.

- I will never ever be able to afford.

(laughs) - Oh yeah, we've, my siblings both do have like a, you know, someone who comes regularly and every once in a while will be like, have them come like once and then we'll act, like we're definitely gonna like regularly schedule them and then, yeah, it's not gonna happen.

We're not, that was a one off, that was a once-year treat for us.

(laughs) - They know.

(laughs) - They know, we're acting, like any time I've walked into a house, acting like I'm gonna try to buy it.

Like, they perhaps know.

They perhaps see through me.

- Yeah, I think you have to like, the only way you could sell it is be like, you have them come once a year and be like, man, the previous house cleaner we had, who comes weekly, we had to fire them 'cause look at this place.

- Yeah.

- So crazy.

- So crazy.

- So crazy.

All right.

- Well, I guess, I mean, this has been fun.

I feel like we hit.

- I guess it has.

- We hit it?

- Yeah.

- I guess it has a bit.

- I mean, I don't know, should we give some sort of, rating for the movie, Johnny, the show viewers.

- Oh sure.

- Sure, yeah.

Yeah, okay.

So, yeah, I mean, I'm just so mad about the end-of-stuff, but overall, the movie feels like it's gonna be really fun.

Great to talk with the gals about it.

You know, always nice just to imagine taking this stuff for yourself, going to a theater, having the experience.

That alone.

- It's great, it's great.

You know, the movie doesn't have to be that good to make it so good for your mental health.

So, I mean, I'm a 5 out of 5.

It was a wonderful experience to imagine doing this.

(laughing) - I also say like, obviously, if you wanna see like high art, if you wanna see a movie that's a real thinker, this isn't, that's not this, but my God, I thought this was so fun.

I'm getting given a 4.5 out of 5.

I recommend.

- Hell yeah.

I think that's my ranking too.

I wanna be hyperbolic and say 5 out of 5, but, okay, what do you say?

(laughing) - Wow, one of our most highly rated movies.

Well, we'll see, maybe, would it be funny if Clara did see the movie and then she ended up off here?

I'll make this recording.

- There's no way Clara saw this movie.

- I know it.

- I will say, the text thread was clearish enough that it was an outdoor excursion and she did seem to suggest she would be able to accomplish that, but not necessarily coming.

But maybe it was only clear to me because I knew, I don't know.

No.

I mean, it didn't innately know, I Googled it, but I assume.

- Yeah, I see the trailers.

I was, yeah, we can't explain what was going on in John's mind, but it's so hard, it's so hard.

- That's a lot.

We're operating at high level, so.

- I'm just trying to find the text, you know?

- It's holiday season.

- It's not important, but it is important to me.

- It's important to me too.

I wanna see, what was the first, did we have this conversation in person or was there a text exchange?

- Okay, it was text.

- Honestly, in my mind, we weren't even recording at first.

I was like, we're gonna, I thought this was gonna be like, we're gonna watch.

- A co-watching?

- Okay.

Let me read you Sarah's text.

Let me read it too.

- Okay.

Also guys, I really want to try to get us to do a bonus episode of the house made, comes out December 19th.

You guys think it's doable, question mark?

Like, we all go see it that weekend and recording Monday night the 22nd.

And you said, I'd love to and could do that night.

And I said, love it and that date also works for me.

Okay, now I'm seeing Claire's response, which is I can definitely find time to see it, to see it.

So she didn't say go see it.

So, maybe.

- You've been in the same place you were.

- Can I explain my logic here?

As you can see, my response was really focused on the night.

Like, I'm gonna make that night work.

And also, I literally am so used to things being released now.

But I'm like, yes, it will be no problem.

Even if perhaps in a part of my mind, I was like, oh, the idea is to go see it, but like, I'm not gonna be able to do that.

I'll pay the $27 to do this weekend release thing.

And that Claire saying I could find time to see it felt really like, it really cemented for me.

This was a blast.

I don't know why, but that really did.

- Right, you're right.

I feel like the go see it was, is that a phrase you would use if you were not, if you were watching it at home?

- Go to your living room and see it.

- Yeah, but I understand.

I see now that it was not as clear as it could have been.

- I'm glad you're taking your response, if you're not.

- No, I'm not really.

I'm not really.

- No, I do feel bad, but.

- It's all right.

You know what, everyone got, everyone's happy that you were here and we got to hear your hot, hot takes.

- Yeah, they were really hot.

- Little fucker.

- Okay, wow.

- I didn't know we were gonna do that this episode.

- I don't, we don't have to.

It's a patron, we can do whatever we want.

- Where is it a patron?

Is it just a bonus?

- Yeah, we're just gonna make it be a bonus.

- For a bonus.

- For everybody, wow.

Oh man, the whole world's really see.

You know me, here we go.

- The whole world, I mean, they listen, the whole world listens to the regular podcast.

- Yeah, yeah.

- It felt, this felt more intimate, or less fresh.

- Yeah.

- Okay, yeah.

All right, well, so John, you're the little fucker.

- Well, that might be your vote, I don't think we've.

- All right, well, yeah, okay, I guess that's my vote.

- Okay.

- Yeah, I guess I, I, by default, I'm gonna have to agree.

And the reason why it's by default is because you are the little fucker.

- I, you know, just factually today.

- Yeah, yeah, you, you, you, you fucked, you fucked up.

- Yeah.

- Okay, my vote was gonna be for Sarah because I gave it five out of five.

And Sabrina and I were excited about it.

We both gave it five out of five.

'Cause my, 'cause my rating wasn't high enough.

- We ended up in high energy.

We were feeling good and you were like, no, you know, like you shouldn't like it as much as you said you did.

I judged you for like, that's my wish.

(laughing) - And you know, you tried to shame me and my friend Sabrina, so.

- Oh, you're right.

- All right, well, I appreciate that.

That was a, - Yeah.

- That was a great attempt.

- So it was a great attempt.

- I thought we were going.

- Okay, well, you're the little fucker and it was so good.

I guess guys, we don't, this is just a bonus episode for you also.

We'll be back next year, next season.

We've got some real good stuff cooking.

For now.

- Usually, should we, okay, now that's okay.

So I can say some, we got like a fun, we have a little list going of some stuff we're considering.

- Oh, you wanna talk about it?

- Sure.

- Give people excited.

You still have time to submit, but.

- Yeah, you still, there could be more.

There could definitely be more.

Okay.

I'm, while I'm looking for the email now.

- Van.

- Oh, so I took a bite of my salmon instead of van.

(laughing) - Okay, here were some of the things we're thinking about for next season.

We're thinking about potentially doing 9th house.

We're thinking about doing rows and chains.

The passage, quick silver, heated rifle.

- I was about to say we have to.

- Oh, dude.

- We had to.

- It's a must do, I feel, but we'll get there.

- We'll get there.

- So it's no promises though, no promises.

- I have to say it.

- Yeah, yeah.

- Some of the things we're thinking about, but yeah, send in other stuff.

And yeah, we're super excited for.

- 2026, yeah.

- 2026, we're all gonna write books and we're gonna continue doing episodes of this podcast.

- Okay.

- Hallelujah.

- 20, is that next season?

- It's season 21 next season, so.

Finally, we can drink.

We're legal, finally legal next season.

- Well, thank you guys all for being loyal listeners.

- Yeah, even the bonus of.

- Yeah.

All right, we'll see you have happy holidays.

Bye.

- Oh, how did you do?

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