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#555 -  Bobby on What It’s Like to Go Viral + Dancing With the The Stars Drama and Sending Back the Mirrorball + Famous Country Songs That Never Went No. 1

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Speaker 1

All right, welcome to episode five five five of the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2

Coming up in a few minutes.

Speaker 1

We'll talk about big country songs that actually never were number one, which is pretty crazy.

Speaker 2

Eddie will join me for that.

Speaker 1

I wanted to take a few minutes and talk about this week, especially all the Dancing with the Star stuff that's happened, because I definitely didn't think.

Speaker 2

That was going to go super viral.

Speaker 1

It's weird when something goes a bit viral because it's like a snowball.

I'd made that video and a couple things I won.

Was on a crazy amount of pain medicine, which I have been and you can see if you're watching on video.

I am in a full cast because ID have surgery on my ankle and it's been killing me.

So I don't blame it on pain medicine at all, because I stand by everything I said, But just so you know where I was at, like mentally, every year about this time of the year, I would say mid October to early November, there's always someone on that show, which there should be, who isn't the best dancer, but that America like gets behind and roots for Every year this happens and it's awesome, and it's really what that show's about that shows.

It wasn't made so the best dancer can win.

It's made so the best dancer mixed with the most likable person.

Let's figure it out.

It's like life.

Like in life, the person that's most qualified for the job doesn't always get the job.

It's the person who's really qualified, but also who the person who's hiring wants to hire because they want to be around them.

You know, That's very much what life is about.

It's about be somebody who people like.

And then also can you do the job?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Can you get better at the job?

For sure?

Speaker 1

Like when I hire for positions, I don't always hire based on what the person can do right then, But one do I like being around them?

And then two can they grow into that position even in a way different than they probably think or I think they can now.

So around this time every single year, I just hit my social media and it is NonStop, just people ripping into me for no reason other than I'd won that show years before.

Speaker 2

And I have pretty thick skin.

Speaker 1

I have very thick skin because every day I say stuff and people kind of come to meet in dms and comments all good.

So it was no different this year, except for Tom Bergeron had kind of jumped in and added to the mix for some reason.

And the reason is he was going back on the show after he had been fired, and I still love Tom, and so he was doing press and I saw what he said.

He had done like twenty interviews, and they had asked him what's one of the more shocking eliminations.

That was the question.

It was nothing about who won that shouldn't have and he immediately flipped it and he was like, I don't know, but I tell you who shouldn't have won?

Who I was shocked by that won.

And it wasn't even that because I was shocked that I won, But it was the facial expressions.

The out is because nowhere in that interview did he allude to, well, it's because of the judging and what's weighted and what's not, Like that's what's been said since then.

That's that's really not what he meant.

But my feelings were hurt, and I just said this.

I didn't say I was mad.

So my feelings were hurt because it was somebody that I like, really respected and was also so great to me.

While I was there on that show like he was the greatest.

He was like the one person because Aaron Andrews wasn't there that much.

Speaker 2

She was doing.

Speaker 1

NFL, she was doing you know, she had other jobs other than Dancing with the Stars.

And at the time, those were the two hosts, and so he was there a decent amount and we were talking about all kinds of stuff, just broadcasting, like he's an old broadcaster, had done a bunch of TV shows.

I was, you know, working on Idol.

I was getting ready to start doing a show on that GEO, and so I would ask him for advice and he was generous with his time and his answers.

So when he said that, that one hit me a little different.

And so I just remember waking up and being like, dang, this sucks.

And it had that trophy.

And I've had the trophy and it used to be in the house and I would always keep it somewhere really annoying in the house.

And then I got married and my wife's like, do we have put trophy right here by the front door?

Speaker 2

And I was like good points.

Speaker 1

So then I moved it down to our studio, and every year when this would happen, I would start to feel like, man, this trophy does not make me feel good.

And so I packed it up and I gave it to my assistant and I still had the box that it was in, and I said, hey, just mail this back to ABC because it does not make me feel good to look at.

I don't even want to put it away.

And yeah, I was a little bit.

It was for drama, for sure, but it made me feel good.

And one of my heroes in life, Marie Condo, if it doesn't spark joy, get rid of it.

One of my top heroes for sure.

Shout out, that's her name, right, Marie Condo.

Yeah, that's it, thank you, So send it back.

And I got on my phone and it was I wasn't mad, and I was just like, what was I supposed to do?

Like every year all these people come at me over and over again.

Now, granted I had taken pain medicine probably hours before from my foot, so I was probably a little bit emo.

And I've never drank, never had drink of alcohol.

But people say when you drink a lot of times you're just allowed or more real version of yourself.

And I think I allowed my feelings to get hurt because I was just those pills had allowed my senses to feel, and so my feelings wire work because Tom had done that.

They had been years and years of people just like pounding me over doing nothing wrong.

It wasn't even an opinion that I had, because that happens a lot where I have an opinion or I say something and people get mad at me, and sometimes it comes back years and years.

And I'm fine with that because I did that, like I had the opinion that either pissed people off or made people happy with this, I just did what was asked to me, go on the show when and not only did I win again, I was told by multiple executives at that network it was the largest gap from first to second place in the history of the show.

And I've even seen some people go, well, yeah, because you used your audience.

Of course, so did people with way more followers on social media that would get on every show every day.

I'd be like, vote for me, vote for me.

Everybody used their audience.

That's the point of that show.

They want people to get their audience to watch and to vote.

So did that melt the trophy back, made the video and then it's really weird to slowly go viral.

So I posted I don't think much about it, and mostly I don't think much about anything, because again, I've been kind of in a weird stage of just being in pain with my foot.

And the day that I posted that, I did the radio show and then I had a couple of interviews, and one of them was with Phil Rosenthal, who's going to come up next week on this podcast.

Phil was awesome.

Phil Rosenthal is the creator of Everybody Loves Raymond.

Speaker 2

He has a show called Feet.

Don't Feed Phil, Feed Phil, Somebody Phil, Thank you.

It's a great show.

But now he's got a cookbook too, called Field.

He's got a lot of feel things right now, I'm confused one on which ones which.

But he came by and we talked about a lot of things in the interview went like an hour and a half.

In that hour and a half, I look at my phone and that video has now gone hundreds of thousands of views on Instagram, hundreds of thousands on TikTok, and I'm like, oh wow, this thing got some traction.

Now.

Speaker 1

I wasn't ashamed in any way for what I said, because I didn't take any shots at anybody.

I wasn't mad at anybody.

I just said that the process has removed my joy towards that show, which it was completely joyous.

It was very hard, but it was really one of the great things that I felt like I've done.

All the negativity has come in the years afterward, and really the most is when Tom Bergeron had said that just because my feelings were hurt for no other reason.

So I'm like, wow, this is Then I see like E pick it up and.

Speaker 2

I'm like, oh wow, Okay.

Then people, then Yahoo.

Speaker 1

Then I got a whole list of them, and then it just started to blow up and it's starting to be everywhere.

Then friends are texting me like, hey, did you see this?

I I'll show the story doesn't matter.

I had a meeting yesterday afternoon with a pretty I want to say, a successful television producer, somebody that I knew of but didn't know personally, but I knew of because they've had a bunch of success in a specific area, and so we'd set up this meeting weeks ago.

We get on the uh the zoom and the first thing they say is I saw you in the news today.

Speaker 2

And I was like yeah.

Speaker 1

They were like, what was that all about.

So I told them the whole story, and it just becomes such a a present part of your day.

Anytime I go to my phone, it's a text.

I'm full of notifications.

But again, I then would watch the video back, and most of the time I don't watch videos back, just to make sure I didn't say something that I would regret, or say something where I was angry, because I wasn't angry at anybody.

Speaker 2

And then like.

Speaker 1

People that haven't heard from in a long time, then like artists start reaching out then.

And the real weird part about going viral is the next day it's over.

It is like the biggest dump of water on you, and you're like, oh my god.

Good or bad, You're like, oh my god, and then you go oh.

The next day you wake up and it's completely gone because the new cycle is totally flipped.

And so that's what it's like today.

As I'm recording this, I'm glad it's over.

I never really meant it to be anything more than it was.

I do see now what the headline was was.

And it's funny that I sent the Meriball trophy back.

That's funny.

It reminds me of Reggie Bush when they took the Heisman from him, except they didn't take the trophy for me.

I was just like, I don't really want this round.

It doesn't make me feel good, and I think it'll be a funny, dramatic thing to do to send it back, because you know what, if nobody really wants me there, you know, I don't have to be there.

And I try not to talk about it unless it's right when they announce the cast, because that's when I get asked the most about it, because I never want to be the guy that's just like yep, I want to dance with the stars all the time.

Also because I think there were these negative I know there were these negative thoughts and feelings about me winning, but I didn't cheat.

I didn't manipulate the system.

Even with the new version of how they are judging it, you know, they're weighted rules, I would win again with what happened then.

A lot of it, too, was the cast.

All the casts are different, all the soup is cook different every single year.

But I'm saying if it was the same exact cast put out this year with their new weighted rules, I would still win again.

Based on that situation.

But I love the show.

I have nothing to say negative about the show or the people on the show, or even Tom, Like I think Tom is the greatest.

And if Tom was like, Hey, I want to come on the podcast, let's go love to talk to you.

But that's why I put the video up.

And then I just want to explain kind of what it was like.

When you go and something happens and it goes viral, it feels again.

You know, we see a coach get water dumped on them, they're like, oh god, Oh that's what it feels like because you're like, oh, I didn't really expect this to happen.

Speaker 2

Oh crap.

Speaker 1

I also didn't make any other videos about it, and I think had I started going, oh, let me take this momentum and keep building on it, I felt like that would be a bit disingenuous for me to like comment on what I said that now everybody's commenting on.

So I don't want to say anything else about it, because that wasn't the point.

Speaker 2

The point was to just share how I felt.

The point was to.

Speaker 1

Share what I did about it, and it wasn't to continue making content about it.

But I made this part of the video because one while I'm doing an intro for the full podcast, and two to just kind of explain what it feels like to go viral.

And this is not a I rolled on a way that lasts for like years.

I think people will probably remember this and I'll probably ask about it in interviews for other projects, and I'm happy to talk about it because again, I don't feel like anybody got hurt from this.

So yeah, that's what's up.

Still love the show, Still love my time on the show.

I just was probably on pain meds and probably got my feelings hurt more than I normally would because I think the walls were down a little bit.

But yeah, it sucked, It really sucked.

But I don't dislike Tom bergeron at all.

Like I think my old phone has his number on it.

My new phone I don't have as many numbers in this phone.

And last night I thought I should go check the old phone and see if I got a text from Tom, because I think Tom and I had texted a couple times because he had given me his number, Like that's how great he was.

It was like, if you ever need anything, never thinking.

Speaker 2

Well, what I need is for you to shut up, So I need to go in check, because what will really suck is if I go check that phone and there's like all these text from people going like, hey man, I just want to reach out.

Speaker 1

And say sorry, and I did.

I know where that phone is.

And the only reason I even keep it with that old number is because there are some things that I like sometimes they have to get a text back to a certain number if I'm logging into something like the multi factor authentication.

I think I have like two accounts where that's the case.

And so I keep that phone.

And I was gonna get up, but my foot hurt so much.

I was like, I'm not getting up right now.

You will get that phone.

So all this to be said, I just wanted to address it after the fact.

I did get invited on some really cool podcasts talk about it, and I said no, because I don't want to make this any more dramatic than it already is.

And I don't think me doing this is dramatic either.

This is my own little avenue I get to create and drive on.

And also it's not so dramatic that I dislike anybody for it.

So that's what's up.

Love everybody love doing the show.

Since trophy back, and here's the thing, if they send it back to me, I will accept it loudly and proudly.

That would be kind of funny, Mike.

Before we jump over to the other part, any questions, did you reply to Tom at all?

And for no, I saw his Instagram post and then I just didn't want to create any more conflict, even in a comment section, So I can't today.

I think now everybody's moved on, I kind of I think I will reply to Tom today.

It's a good point.

I haven't thought about that.

I just saw where he said, hey, sorry for pouring salt in the wound that I know happened after you won.

The thing is I would I would win.

I would go and do the show for the first time and try to win again.

I don't know that I would do the show again right now, knowing everything that I know.

But I only did it originally because as American Idol ask me to do it.

I never was like, I gotta be on Dancing.

Speaker 2

With the Stars.

Speaker 1

So I think today though, I will go and post a comment underneath where he wrote that, where he wrote like, hey, sorry, so no, I haven't, but I will.

Speaker 2

Anything else.

How cool A podcasts were you invited on?

I don't want to know.

Speaker 1

Well, it was just some podcasts that I think are really cool, Okay, yeah, like that I like listen to, or that I know have massive followings.

And I just don't want this to seem like I was doing this specifically for attention, because when I do things for attention, a lot of times it doesn't get attention.

So it's one of these random things where I posted this and just made a quick video because I was affected by what Bergern had said in that Parade magazine interview.

And and if you Phil Rosenshal was like, oh boy, we're getting some traction here.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I really wasn't like the intention or anything.

So that's what's up, love everybody.

I would have gone to the twentieth birthday if my foot wasn't hurt, like I had plans to go to that.

I had plans even once I knew I was having surgery, which if you listen on the show, I was like, Man, can I still go?

I realized I can barely move around the house, much less get on an airplane, get an ubers be in LA.

So I would have even gone to that.

Speaker 2

It was a cool episode.

Yeah, I don't.

I don't have it.

I don't get to watch it because you know why, because YouTube TV it doesn't have Disney and they can't watch ESPN.

I can't watch ABC.

Speaker 1

I saw some clips of it, but I missed it.

Did they do it in Memoriam?

Speaker 2

Yeah, they show me.

Speaker 1

They did not show you.

They showed me with my foot up propped up with the thumbs up.

I imagine that in Memoriam was a lot on Len.

Speaker 3

He was at the very end, so they showed like everybody who had been on who's passed away.

Speaker 2

Were there a lot?

It was a good amount.

Speaker 3

You're kind of surprised, I say, at least maybe eight or nine people.

Speaker 2

Wow, And then the show.

Speaker 1

Hasn't been on one hundred years, it's been on twenty.

Speaker 2

Yeah, some most.

Speaker 1

People you forgot die, like Suzanne Summers.

They used to do that show twice a year.

Like used to go one season and they just start the next one.

So they would do two, which is why there's been thirty plus seasons in twenty years.

And they used to do two episodes every week.

I think we had two episodes where they would do the whole competition, then you vote, and the next night is like a I'm not sure if we had two.

Speaker 2

Maybe we only had one.

I think it was just one.

Speaker 1

Maybe, so maybe we were one of the first seasons to do one.

But they used to have two episodes where they would do the eliminations and have like some dancing, but not really part of the competition.

That second night, that's when the show was really popping.

But the show is really popping again and it's super cool to see.

Speaker 2

So how will this shake out?

Speaker 1

Who knows?

That's all I got.

Let's enjoy the rest of the podcast.

Thank you all for being here.

Speaker 4

Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, WO and we're back on the Bobby cap.

Speaker 1

All right, We're going to talk about famous country songs that never went to number one.

And I would ask you the question, do you think this one went to number one?

But the answer is.

Speaker 2

No, because they all didn't go to number one, to all of them.

Speaker 1

So we'll start at number ten.

Number ten never went to number one.

Whiskey Lullaby Brad Paisley and Alison Krause.

Speaker 2

Wow, what a shame?

Speaker 1

Well, and that's a ballad that's going to be all these There's a difference though in times and songs being number one.

I think back in like the fifties and sixties and seventies, number ones were a massive deal that translated.

I think in the nineties and two thousands, number ones were a big deal.

Speaker 2

But there are a couple eras where number ones really weren't that big of a deal because there were like five different charts.

It was like in college football when they were like seven different national champions Yeah, because they had all these polls.

Speaker 1

Even now, if you get a number one on the radio, that's big, but it's not near as big as it was ten years ago because there were all these other outlets as well, Like you could satellite could say there's a number one, they just make that up radio number one.

And there's a lot of politics involved in the number one.

Speaker 2

In radio streaming, well we're the biggest streamer, but people buy bots in order to get streams.

Speaker 1

So there's so much to say about a number one.

Now you just kind of take it and it's just a plaque you put on your wall and you can say you got a number one, but it really doesn't mean as much.

Speaker 2

What goes into being a number one, Like what.

Speaker 1

Well, now there's like eleven different things, say, like say ten years ago, like you said, for the most part, radio radio play, and what was so important about nineties to two thousands is they would actually allow a song to stay number one for three, four, five, six, seven weeks.

That really doesn't happen often now because it's such a political game of people just kind of trading out number one, sharing the number one.

Yeah, it really is like if there's a multi week number one, even for two weeks, big deal.

Hardly ever is there a three or four week number one.

But there used to be like eleven week number ones in country music, wow, because it just was that dominant of a song and unless you could come take down the champ.

It was always a weird thing to me with the number ones, even in my time in Nashville, that it would be number one for a week and then go away.

People don't just love a song the most for one week.

Right, If it's a number one song and it's loved, it's got a few week's shelf life until something else comes up and is now the new loved song.

Speaker 2

People don't just love for a week.

And I remember artists would say like, oh, yeah, we wrote that song three years ago.

We recorded it two years ago.

I've been playing it live for two years straight and it just became a number one.

Speaker 1

Well that's because it takes a long time for promotion teams to get radio to play it and build spins up and it has started overnights and then it has to But that wasn't always the case.

And I feel like now it's like I don't know much about getting prostitutes, but actually I know very little.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's better.

That's a better way of putting.

Speaker 1

Actually actually know nothing except for like what I hear from Charlie Sheen.

Speaker 2

There you go.

Speaker 1

But now it's almost like buying a hooker, because interesting, you just get a hooker and you're onto the next.

That's like what a number one is.

Now it's a good hooker, damn, but you're.

Speaker 2

Just on to the next instead of like a great analogy.

Speaker 1

So's like a girlfriend that you have for many, many weeks.

Yes, yes, number ones now are high prize hookers.

Speaker 2

I said it, dude, we don't even talk about that girl because.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and some hookers are better than others, and you remember when you tell your friends about them.

Some number one songs are actually memorable, but there are some by some artists and you're like.

Speaker 2

I don't even remember that song.

How do songs become classics?

Then when the number the hookers just keep revolving.

Speaker 1

Because they're great, because they're great songs, and they organically leave an impression on people.

Like that's how songs become classics, because all these are classics without being number ones.

Whiskey Lulla by Brad Paisley Alison Kraus.

Speaker 2

What year was this?

Two thousand and four?

I think.

Speaker 1

You know that song?

Universally loved.

It's one of my favorite songs of all time, not just country music but of all time.

One of the saddest songs ever written in the two thousands, maybe the best song of the two thousands.

I did win Song of the Year at the CMA's in two thousand and five.

It did fail to reach number one.

It peaked at number three.

Now, Tim McGraw, some of this is timing too.

Tim mcgral had one of those rare multi week number ones with a song that still matters, that people still sing in reference.

Speaker 2

Can you name that song?

It was a five week number one, five week number one, Tim mcgrawl, I would bet when you heard this song you went that is an amazing song, and I felt that don't take the girl Nope.

Later uh, I felt that, oh I do that with something like that, But I know that's not the answer.

Speaker 1

It's an emotional song.

Speaker 2

Hmm.

Oh I live like you were dying of course.

Yeah.

Man.

And and again that's one that we will be singing forever and referencing forever, like I still reference all the time for sure.

Speaker 1

Number nine Head's Carolina tells California.

Speaker 2

Dang, that should have been a number one a ten weeker?

Are you gonna say this after everyone?

I just want to know now if you want to know, because I wouldn't have put Brad Paisley as a ten weeker.

I love it, but it should have been a number one.

Should have been a number one.

But Head's Carolina, Okay, So that's what you're gonna do.

You're gonna say how many weeks you think it should have been?

Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 1

So heads Carolina tells California two months straight, you think it's at least an eight to ten weeks.

Speaker 2

And it's such a jam like so so good.

Speaker 1

It is a ninety standard when we think in nineties country music still one of the most iconic hits of the decade.

When I think of Jody Messina, this is the song, although she does have other great songs that remind you of that decade.

Speaker 2

It peaked at number two.

It was blocked by Brooks and Dunn.

My Maria, Oh man, well I get it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, timing gets weird with some of these two.

Speaker 2

Yeah, number and that's what you're referring to, you know, with like you gotta take down the champ.

Taking down My Maria must have been so hard.

This was when the number one' were number one?

Yes, how are you going to take that one down?

Number eight Fancy by Riba, ooh, fancy.

I'd put fancy a five week number one.

I'd put like a thirty weeker.

No, oh no, too dark.

Yeah, dude sent his hey hooker.

She sent it her daughter out.

Speaker 1

We've already done too many hook Hooker talks here.

So that was a cover, you know that, right?

I didn't know that from nineteen sixty nine, Bobby Gentry.

Reba's interesting because Fancy is a cover and what's.

Speaker 2

Her other cover?

The Lights Went Out in Georgia the Night.

Speaker 1

Becky Lawrence, Wow, both cover songs interesting.

So Reba's cover of the nineteen sixty nine Bobby Gentry track has become I think Reba's most signature song.

Speaker 2

Would you say?

Yeah?

I would like if you were like, name a RIBA's song, her famous song, go Fans.

I think I'd go fancy yep.

Speaker 1

And so it was released again in nineteen ninety one by Reba.

Hundreds of millions of streams.

It only reached number eight.

Wow, what a shame nineteen ninety one, probably because of what the song was about.

Yeah, and some people, if you just get a few people that don't commit to it, just a few that are like, I don't really believe that should I don't believe that I should be on the radio?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Were these are the days where people would call the radio station?

Is that why you playing that?

Yes?

I have my kids in the car, yes, Like the kids are really listening to the storyline.

Oh yeah, I didn't listen to any stories.

And there'd have been a lot of songs back in our day.

I was probably singing this song word for a word when I was a kid.

There was a song by Jordan Knight when he went solo, and I was probably eighteen or nineteen, and I sang it all the time.

I never really I might have even been younger.

I never even knew what I was singing, but it was like, baby, you know, I will give it to you.

Never knew You're like, okay, I'm just giving something to her, like a gift.

Yeah something.

Or the one I really think about was baby, when we're grinding, I get so excited.

Speaker 1

Next too close.

It was all about having a boner and dancing with somebody.

Yeah do you remember that song?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

No, no, that kid Hide it makes it really I never knew that I was just singing along.

Speaker 2

I used to sing, I wan up you like an animal, and I probably that was like cleaning a deer.

Speaker 1

I had no clue what I was singing.

Rascal Flat's Life is a Highway?

Speaker 2

Oh cover?

Yeah, do you know the artist?

Ooh god, is it?

Gosh?

I don't know.

I'm thinking Joe Wash.

It's not Joe Wash, it's that, is it?

Joe Joe something?

Tom Cochran, Tom Cochran.

I would have gotten there eventually.

Speaker 1

So this song was never even a single.

It was done for the movie Cars, and then people just started playing Wow.

There was never like a concerted effort, and you don't get a number one unless there's very much a concerted effort, because you got to get these promotional teams to make sure that all these stations are playing it at the same amount at the same time.

Speaker 4

Wow.

Speaker 2

So it was a cover of that song for Cars, massive crossover two for those guys because they were pop.

Speaker 1

This was a pop song.

It was one of the most string country songs still is.

But because it was not a single, it hit number eighteen.

And also they had My Wish that was the real song at the same time.

And so when you got two songs going and you got one song, everybody's pushing that one was just getting played as like a secondary song, and My Wish was well the number one song.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Yeah.

And Cars was such a huge movie that it made the song huge.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Tom Carr as a cover of Tom Concran's nineteen ninety one single for Cars.

I guess Cars was probably if I'm guessing.

Speaker 2

He does five, he does six.

Ah, so close, you were right there, so close.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

The original Life as a Highway feels like it's like the seventies, Is it not nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 2

Oh, that's crazy.

I would have put it seventies too.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I literally just read that again as a cover of Tom Cochran's nineteen ninety one sing Wow Yeah Old Read Blake Shelton.

Speaker 2

Nah, I mean, I wouldn't even put it as a number one.

I agree.

I don't know why.

I'm not trying to be mean or anything.

It's just not one of my favorites.

Speaker 1

I like it, But is a George Jones song originally?

Right, I don't think that's written.

I'm fairly certain it was Georg Jones cover.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Nineteen ninety Blake Shelton put out Old Red one of his self proclaimed signature songs.

Despite the song being used heavily by Blake Shelton both on stage and in marketing, the song was shockingly not even a top ten hit, Mike.

Speaker 2

Was it originally by George Jones?

It was?

That's interesting, it said self proclaimed because yeah, I mean, I guess no one's I wouldn't put that as his number one signature song.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Back then he didn't have a bunch of signature songs.

Some beat that's early black, No, that's that?

Oh it old Red's pre s Beach.

I would assume, yeah, oh in Austin pre Austin too.

Austin was first, Okay, my years are getting mixed up because not even know when Georg Jones put it out.

Georgones might have put it out, and you put it out nine ninety okay, and Blake Shelton put it out went two thousand.

Speaker 2

I mean that is it's it's I mean he's got restaurants named Old Red.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean he has made it his staple song that he's known for.

Number five.

Toby Keith read solo cup.

Oh man, that's a ten that's a ten weeker for me.

Oh yeah, I love that song.

Speaker 1

It peaked at number nine, never hit number eight, seven, six, fout four, three, two or one.

Speaker 2

It's funny, And we've talked about the one of the writers, Jim Beaver, is talking about how it was just as just a dumb, funny song that they wrote.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it was kind of a throwaway, goofy song, and they recorded it like in their own little room and you hear even like Jim and the Riders of yelling in the background, and Toby just sang over like.

Speaker 2

The track they had already created.

Yeah, so cool.

They didn't even really go back into the studio and recreate it, and that ended up being the one You think that would be his his staple song.

Should have been a cowboy.

Oh that's good.

I just said that without thinking, But I mean, for sure should have been a cowboy?

Is I think Toby Keith big one.

Speaker 1

I think there's I think Toby Keith's an artist, so that has eras so I think should have been a cowboy.

Speaker 2

That's the that's the bolo era, and I think courtesy of the Red, White and Blue the nine eleven era, nine to eleven American Area era.

Speaker 1

And then funny Toby is either red Solo cup or like you want to I want to tip me?

Speaker 2

No, I know you.

Speaker 3

Should have been a Cowboys His most stream song.

Speaker 1

It is I would think to me, that would be the quintessential Toby song.

But I wouldn't fight you over.

Speaker 2

I saw a cool video of like back in the nineties where he's singing it to to uh.

Troy Aikman is just sitting there like kind of weird.

It's awkward for sure.

It's way before the song was a hit too.

And I know what it's like for somebody to play me a song and they wrote what do you do?

You have to bob your head, and that's what Troy was doing.

He was like right men, and Troy's.

Speaker 1

Troy's in like a cutoff T shirt.

Speaker 2

He was about to go work out.

It just got out of practice.

Speaker 1

Number four Crazy by Patsy Klein Ooh Crazy Crazy, which was famously penned by Willie Nelson, has not only become Patsy Cline's signature song, but one of the most iconic songs in the history of country music, often being referred to as an era defining song.

Speaker 2

I agree with that, yeah, big time.

Speaker 1

Klein never went number one, peaking at number two with Crazy.

It was blocked by Leroy van Dyck's massive nineteen week number one song walk On By, which would remain the longest running number one country song in the chart for over fifty years.

Hold On until Florida Georgia line broke it.

I'm glad lyat somebody good broke it good with yes with cruise Wow.

I'm glad at least somebody with some substance ended up breaking.

Speaker 2

That fifty year resud.

I was thinking the same thing, man, man, when you putting Nelly on it can't stop it.

That's the thing.

Speaker 1

If what song is that Leroy van Dyke would have putten Nelly on walk on By.

Speaker 2

I think would have had another five weeks alive.

Can just imagine or jaw rule let's walk on By.

I have no idea like that's I don't even know what that is in nineteen week Yeah, I would have put crazy over that for sure.

Put crazy as a nineteen weeker.

I think, let's see what year was that, sixty and fifty.

I don't have a I don't have.

Speaker 1

A year on it, but I would think the life expectancy of a human was like nineteen weeks back then, is so.

Speaker 2

Old than they have lockjaw at some point.

Let's see what's his name?

Leroy van Dyke nineteen sixty one.

Oh, dang okay, Leroy van Dyke.

His number one song is not even walk on By, it's the Auctioneer.

But here's walk on By.

I'll play for my phone down below so we don't get shut off.

Never heard that.

M think about Leroy van Dyke.

I did really like at the beginning of his TV show when he tripped over and fell and Mary Tillimore picked him up.

Oh, the Leroy van Dyke show.

Yeah, that was good.

It's one of the best.

Never heard of Leroy man me either, that's crazy.

Speaker 1

And I do consider myself a bit of a traditionalist.

The auctioneer sixteen million.

Speaker 2

Okay, that's a jam.

Somebody needs to sample this into a new song.

Yeah, can I suggest Florida Georgia line.

Guys, they're calling you again.

You know those guys.

One of them is happy as the clamor right now.

The other is miserable because the other one is happy as a clam right now.

Yeah, that's interesting how all that turned out.

Because the one, Tyler has got a bunch of hits.

The other his wife has a store.

Yeah, a successful store.

Yeah, that's that's got to drive him crazy.

That's just hard.

Though Tyler's the voice.

He was the voice of Florida Georgia line.

That's that's easier, you know.

That's like, that's like if Brooks and Done broke up and and and they did.

I know, but it's gonna be hard for Kicks to have a big career because he wasn't the voice of Brooks and Done.

Speaker 1

But he did have songs that he sang that were hits.

Yeah, I know that the Kicks actually had number ones.

Where he's saying, it's a little different.

Also, we shouldn't compare Brooks and done to Florida, Georgia.

Speaker 2

Okay, I got the Eddie and Bobby the Raged idiots Like it's like if Eddie tried it.

You know, I'm the one of the lead singer of the.

Speaker 1

Rage, but you're better singer, so you should have always been the singer.

Speaker 2

That's the deal.

Yeah, I don't.

I gotta be honest.

I didn't know Leroy Leroy van Dyke.

I'm assuming Mike he's not alive anymore.

I don't think so.

Speaker 1

Would love to get a Bobby cast and hear the stories.

Speaker 2

Of yesteryear if he's available.

Speaker 1

He had a nineteenth week number one song.

Speaker 2

It's pretty amazing.

That's wild.

Speaker 1

Not in one of the few not pretty by actually Gorley written or produced?

Speaker 2

Yeah, written, ye, written alive.

He is ninety six years old, dude.

You got to get him in to talk about that story.

You talk about how Patsy was upset with him.

Man at ninety six, that's a tough interview, I man, I have to get him on the telegraph.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's not even about him, it's just ninety six is a tough ye.

Speaker 2

It's a tough age.

Speaker 1

The younger or the older, they are the tougher they get.

Speaker 2

For the most part.

That's pretty cool.

He's still with us.

Step was not a number one song, Shania Twain.

Man, I felt like a woman.

That's ridiculous.

Speaker 1

Despite being one of the highest streamed country songs of all time with over seven million streams, and being one of the best selling country albums of all time, the two time Diamonds certified, Come on over, man, I feel like a woman failed to reach number one.

It did, however, chart well and over a dozen countries, even going number one in New Zealand.

Oh wow, but never hit number one here on the country chart.

Does it say who blocked it?

Yes, it sure does Lee Roy van Dyck.

Speaker 2

With cruise.

This is how we rolled.

I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3

Leroy Vandyke looks pretty good for ninety six.

I see a birthday post he turned ninety six three weeks ago.

Speaker 2

Does he still live in town?

No?

Oh he doesn't.

I don't think so.

Was the birthday post a selfie?

Please tell me as a selfie?

No, I was him with somebody else.

Speaker 1

Okay, the Bobby Cast will be right back.

This is the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2

Number two.

Colin Baton, Rouge, Garth Brooks, Dang, yeah you know that's a weird one because huge Garth Brooks song, but not one that I remember would stand out as a radio song.

What mm hmm.

Like you know, obviously Friends in the Places, all those the River, like those are big songs that I remember on the radio.

Colin Baton Rouge, I don't remember a big radio song.

Speaker 1

I have like two tiers of Garth songs, songs that I feel were awesome and everybody knows and songs that I know were really good that some people know.

And I think that line is like Beaches of Cheyenne is like right below the line is the first song below Fresh Horses even lower, I think, because I like, I like Beaches of Cheyenne, but I think that's the first one that hits that lower tier.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Colin Baton Rouge is up in that upper tier.

Through that's a top twelve to fifteen song.

Yeah, I think third album, third album in pieces, but I think that like the big songs off that album were like in Going Down to the Sun comes up standing Outside the Fire.

Oh if we.

Speaker 1

Listed Garth in order, now, would we list gen Pop's favorite, because obviously Jen pops number one Garth Brooks song of all time his friends in little places, not mine.

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah, yeah, not mine either.

Speaker 1

But Colin Baton Rouge would be in that top tier for sure.

But it was number two, but it was blocked out for seven weeks by two different songs, so it was number two for seven weeks.

Okay, it was blocked out by Brooks and Dune, which I don't I love Brooks and Done.

I don't think this song's bigger than Colin Baton Rouge.

A big song for them.

Speaker 2

She's not the gee cat.

Yeah, not as big as back.

Speaker 1

That was number one for three weeks, and then Alan Jackson had a four week number one with a song I don't feel as as big as Colin Baton Rouge, but is great living known mane.

Speaker 2

No Time without Somebody other than Anywhere, the dumb great song.

Speaker 1

I feel like Colin Baton Rouge is bigger than both of them.

Speaker 2

I agree with you, But though those other two songs were pretty big.

Speaker 1

I can't believe you don't think Colin Baton Rouge is like an elite Garths.

Speaker 2

It is an elite Garth song, but it was almost an elite Garth song because we were Garth fans.

I don't know way I don't remember it being a huge song on K frog.

Was that your country was our country station K Frog.

There were a lot of K Frogs, but I didn't know that was yours down in the valley.

Number one, never a number one song.

Then Dune and Doom Doom, Oh Amarilla not a number one Yeah, blasphemy.

Speaker 1

M o Rillo by Morning is George Strait's signature song.

He has over sixty number one hits, and it did not hit number one.

It peaked at number four April nineteen eighty three, and that is his staple song.

Yeah, and I know he didn't write it, but was he the first to record it?

Speaker 2

No?

Wait, wait didn't we We've talked about this where there was one that sounds it's like a it's like a demo, very low quality that we've played before, and then someone else and then George.

Speaker 1

So it was recorded three times if I recall correctly.

Let's go over to our fact checker, Mike, because I know again George Strait is the Kenny Chesney or Kenny Chesney is the George Straight of then where they both pick great songs about the people.

They don't write a lot of their songs and they're massive stars, and I'm not even comparing the two like as a country cultural impact.

But Kenny can write songs, but he just goes and finds the best.

He didn't really write a bunch of songs, which they're skilling that finding good songs.

Yeah, but you have to write good enough songs at the beginning for the most part, to even have the option to get good songs pitched to you.

Mike what he got originally by Harry Stafford, who also wrote it and put.

Speaker 2

It out back in nineteen seventy three.

So just one and as it mentioned anything about Leroy van Dyke.

Speaker 1

In that entire description, did not steal Roy on this one.

I'm so curious about Leroy van Dyke.

I know, so congratulations George Strait am Marilla by Morning.

That's crazy never a number one song.

Other ones that were never number one, just as honorable mentions.

This is so old school because I don't really know what the charts were like then, But I'm so lonesome I could cry.

Hank Wiamsat Williams go rest high on that mountain.

Speaker 2

Vince Gill very slow.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I don't know if that mattered as much back then, but it only peaked a number fourteen.

In nineteen ninety five, Willie Nelson Whiskey River peaked at number twelve as a jam Midnight Montgomery Alan Jackson, that's a good one.

It peaked at number three, but it could never pass well two songs because I like Midnight.

It's a great song, Alan, but it couldn't beat two songs.

One why known as cover of I Saw the Light, But I wonder what which I saw the light?

Speaker 2

That was I saw the Light?

Huh?

And then and Billy ray A Can Break Your Heart.

Oh well, that's some that was massive.

Yeah, forty week forty week number one for sure.

The other was in in Color by Jamie Johnson, peaked at number nine, ifthing else and Bershon should have seen Bad Deed Bad you should have seen it in color.

I should have seen it in color.

You should have seen it in color.

Speaker 1

It So those were songs that never actually hit number one.

What are your final thoughts on that?

Speaker 2

I mean, you know, some of them for a good reason.

But I love, dude, I just love I wish we can go back to those.

You know, you have to take down number one to be number one, because that that that to me makes more sense for a lot of these big songs to not hit number one, Shanaiah, I get it.

It would be a little more fair if like was like Rick Flair explain, to be the man, you got to beat the man who?

And I am the man.

And that's not about what happened.

It's a better model financially for country music to have more number one sure, And then that what this town loves to do.

Share the wealth.

I don't know about sharing it, make the wealth, but but they're but they're really good at like splitting.

Speaker 1

The pie up, yes, because they want more of the pie.

Who the town I don't think.

I don't think this town is some charity that's like everybody deserves.

Speaker 2

No.

But they've almost designed it to where like, Okay, we're all going to make money here, not just one person.

Speaker 1

Because they can make more money doing it that way individually.

I don't think I'm gonna tell you one thing about this town.

No good hearts running around.

It ain't good hearts running around.

I'm curious before we leave, though, Leroy van Dyke, Yes.

Speaker 2

Book him.

I'll pick him up, dude, I'll bring him over here.

I don't trust it, but.

Speaker 1

I'm going to ask my assistant to just give me a brief overview of his life and career.

Hello, I'm curious about the country singer Leroy van Dyke.

My friend and I were discussing him and did not know much about him.

Could you give me a semi brief overview, maybe a couple minutes long, about the lifetimes and success of Leroy Van Dyke.

Speaker 5

Absolutely, I'd be happy to give you the rundown.

Speaker 6

So Leroy van Dyke is definitely a name that rings a bell in the world of classic country music.

He was born in nineteen twenty nine in Missouri, and he's known not just as a country singer, but also as an auctioneer and a songwriter.

In fact, one of his early claims to him was a song called the Auctioneer, which he wrote based on his own experience as you guest did an auctioneer.

Speaker 5

That song became a big hit in the mid nineteen fifties and really.

Speaker 6

Put him on the map.

But probably his most famous and enduring hit is walk On By, which came out in nineteen sixty one.

That song was a massive success on the country charts and even crushed over a bit into the pop charts.

It's one of those classic country songs that's really stood the test of time.

Over his career, Leroy van Dyke recorded a bunch of albums, performed internationally, and became known for his smooth, polished style and that kind of era of country music that blended honky Tonk was a bit of a pop sensibility.

He's been active for many decades, and even into his later years he was still performing and making appearances.

Speaker 5

So that's the jest.

He's a country music veteran with a couple of iconic hits, especially walk on By, and a career that spanned.

Speaker 2

A bit long.

While you know what I'm listening to this week, le Van Dyke, Well, there you have it.

Ooh, Live with the Broken Spoke?

All right?

What year?

I thought the spokes were still all together back then.

Now it's just he's just in front of it on an out before it spoke broke.

Bro dude, you know what, this episode was way better than the last one.

What was the last one?

Do the death of the last one?

I did with you?

That one wasn't bad.

I liked it.

It wasn't that.

It's just I thought about it all week too, and I even went more deep dive into Randy Rhodes and like you.

Speaker 1

Should, you should tell that story.

So in the an episode we did Back in Time Go Look at Celebrity Tragic Deaths, we did this episode and we talked about different musical artists who died in tragic ways, and one of them was Randy Rhodes, who was the guitar player for Black Sabbath Ozzie.

Speaker 2

Yeah, did he play for Black Sabbath?

Though I think it was just just Ozzy because Ozzie was in Black Sabbath.

I just assumed it was when Ozzi went on.

Speaker 1

Probably assumed wrong, and that's on me, I believe.

So when asked my assistant, yes, please, okay, do you want to ask her about the Randy Roads thing?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

See what she says, Hey, got a question for you.

Speaker 1

So we're talking about Randy Rhodes, the guitarist, and we're wondering one if he played for Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath or just Ozzy Osbourne?

And can you give me some details about his tragic death in the airplane.

Speaker 5

Absolutely, let's dive into that.

Speaker 1

So Randy Rose was indeed the legendary.

Speaker 6

Guitarist who played for Ozzy Osbourne, but he never actually played for Black Sabbath.

What happened is that after Ozzy was out of Black Sabbath, he started his solo career, and Randy was his guitarist in that solo band.

So Randy's name is really tied to Ozzie's early solo work albums like Blizzard of Oz and Diary of a Madman, rather than Black Sabbath itself.

Speaker 5

As for his tragic death, it's a really sad story.

Speaker 6

Randy Roads died in a plane crash in nineteen eighty two when he was just twenty five years old.

The band was on tour in Florida, and during a rest stop, the tour bus driver, who also happened to be a pilot, decided to take a few people up in a small plane for a quick flight.

They made a couple of successful passes, but then on another pass, the plane clipped.

The tour bus lost control and crashed into a nearby house.

Randy and two others on the plane were killed instantly.

It was a huge loss to the music world because Randy was known for his incredible talent and innovative guitar work.

Even though his career was relatively short, he had a big influence on heavy bettal guitar playing and is still remembered as one of the grace.

Speaker 1

Was there a story about they were using the airplane to buzz the tour bus as kind of as a practical joke.

Speaker 5

Yes, that's exactly right.

Speaker 6

So the plane crash that killed Randy Rhodes did involve what was essentially a really reckless prank.

The pilot, who was also the band's tour bus driver, was trying to buzz the tour bus, basically flying really low and close to it to scare surprise the people inside.

It was meant to be a kind of the air deevil joke, but it went horribly wrong.

On one of those passes, the plane got too close, clipped the bus, and then crashed.

So yeah, the whole incident was kind of the result of this ill conceived stunt that went tragically out of control.

It's a pretty heartbreaking story all around.

Speaker 2

A couple things from that one.

I like it when her emotion changes, Oh, she got like, yeah, it's pretty sad.

I mean she's it sounds like a human man.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And so what I didn't know from you because you went deeper down this and people actually saw them in the plane.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so a couple things.

So I when we were talking about the story, I thought it was nighttime.

I don't know, it felt like just a nighttime antics to do this.

It wasn't.

It was early in the day.

The bus driver knew the bus drive the bus company, and he knew that the owner lived in Florida and that they were having air conditioning problems and they could just stop during the day and they can fix it.

So they had stopped there to get the bus fixed, and while the bus was being worked on, he was like, oh, there's a plane right there.

I'm a pilot, although he had been doing drugs on Wait, it wasn't his plane, it wasn't even their planet.

On the property there was a runway.

Speaker 1

They didn't even like going lease the plane.

Speaker 2

Oh no, no, no.

The owner of the bus company owned a couple of planes and even had a runway in his property.

And so he says, let's go, I'll fly the plane.

I'm a pilot.

You know, I'm a pilot.

And so it's on drugs.

He'd been doing drugs all night.

Randy Rhodes and the hairdresser were like, we'll go with you, and he didn't say anything.

We're gonna prank.

We're just gonna go up on the plane.

Randy Rose was a photographer, so he took his I'll take my camera, I'll get pictures up there, and the hairdressers like that sounds fun.

While they were in the air, that's when he was like, watch this.

So it wasn't a prank to begin with.

Get in, let's prank.

Correct, Oh my god.

Correct.

And so the tour manager and some of the band members heard the first buzz flyover, got out of the bus, like, what's happening.

They saw it.

They did it again the third time.

They could see there was struggle in the cockpit.

Speaker 1

Meaning whomever was in there didn't want to do that, meaning.

Speaker 2

Like stop, stop doing this.

And then once that happened, they clicked.

They clipped the wing clip the tour bus and then it hit a house that was nearby.

Bizarre, dude, bizarre, And that's crazy.

When we first talked about it, I always shook when we first talked about it, But here that those layers and in my head too him like that's so rock and roll, that's so eighties.

But then you get the real store and it's like, dude, Randy didn't you want to be on?

Like he didn't even want to be part of that, Like it wasn't.

Speaker 1

Because I think it's him being crazy and a playing same because he's a rock and roll metal guitarist.

Let's go do some pranks and fly and tour and bust.

Some people live young, live hard.

Speaker 2

Same.

But no, it was just a dude who was like, I can fly.

Yeah, And while he was up there, he's like, oh my god, very sad.

So that's why AI said, yeah, the whole episode was pretty dark.

It was dude, But I thought about that all week after we take we taped that episode, and like I called my brother who was a huge Aussie fan and all that, and he didn't even know that.

Same thing with him.

He's like, yeah, d I think he died in a plane crash.

Well let me tell you, bro, And did you know him?

Yeah, And he was like, WHOA didn't know any of that?

That's what Like, WHOA I didn't know any of all?

Right, Well that'll do it, Eddie.

Thank you for stopping by.

Thanks man, you're already you're already here, so no, and I stopped by.

Hey, thanks for staying a little longer.

And now I'm on my way to go pick up Leroy.

What band is it?

What band is he in?

Lero Van Dyke, The Van Dykes.

Oh that Leroy, Leroy.

Speaker 1

Could you do have a cousin named Leroy?

Speaker 2

I do?

I do?

Who's who live the way?

Speaker 6

No?

Speaker 2

No, let me go back.

He's Hispanic?

Or is he Mexican?

He's he's Mexican.

He's half Korean, half Mexican.

Speaker 1

Of everybody I've ever seen named Leroy, he looks the least like a Leroy would look.

Uh huh, yeah, because I know LeRoy's Yeah, and they have either been redneck like I know where I come from, or black where I know where I come from.

Speaker 2

My cousin, and some of them are Leroy or Leroy.

Speaker 1

None of them look like your cousin Leroy.

Speaker 2

When you said my cousin's name is Leroy, I expected white guy and a wife beater.

Yeah, black dude.

No, I've never met a Mexican Leroy.

Mexican dude.

That his name though, Really?

Yeah, Leroy, that's his name.

That's really awesome.

And Lero loves music, like loves music.

So he's gone to I don't know how many of our shows because he just loved, you know, seeing us play.

But crazy thing about Leroy is he lives about five miles from where Randy Rose crashed.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think the crazier thing is his name is Leroy.

Still, I know that's crazy, But when I saw him, I was like.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, I want to make your cousin Leroy.

You're like, no, that's him, that's Lero.

What all right?

Speaker 1

Thank you, Eddie, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.

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