I have a client who cloned her do.

The clone is an identical replica looks wise but personality Wuy is completely different.

Welcome to episode five sixty one with doctor Josie.

She is a veterinarian.

She is my friend.

She also talks about how one of her clients, one of her patients, has a cloned dog.

We will get into that, also how often people are cloning horses, and then my idea for well crime and how you can actually make a lot of money without stealing anything.

So all that's coming up.

She has a great podcast I want you to check out too.

It is called in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.

Some of her guests have been Doug the Pug.

Doug doesn't talk though it's his owners.

Yeah, Lauren Aikins, Thomas Rhet's wife, Jason Tartik from The Bachelor.

So many people, but you can go and listen to that podcast.

There's season four coming out very soon.

But this is doctor Josie on Instagram at doctor Josie that episode five sixty one.

Here we go.

So you go in houses now, m do you ever see because I think when housekeepers come to maya hotel room in Vegas.

There's money laying out drugs.

Maybe not with me drugs, but you know, there's all the drugs.

Do you ever see like things in people's houses that maybe you shouldn't see because now that you're doing your job in people's houses, that's a good question.

I don't know that I've seen anything like where I'm like, ooh, I probably shouldn't be seeing this.

I do see like couples fight.

Oh man, that's awkward.

Yeah, like whether it's usually not even about the pets, like they're fighting about something else and you get there, like mid fight, they'll just be like they are probably already in the middle of it, and then they answer the door and then they kind of forget I'm there, and then they're like bickering in the corner, and I'm like, oh god, Yeah, So I see fights or like yelling at their kids, like just you know, stuff that you wouldn't normally see in a hospital.

Setting because you're in their house.

Yeah, I'm in their house.

I was thinking about a little bit what I was going to talk to you about, and I was just like, man, people that go in people's personal spaces, and we just just understood they get to be in there, which would be like housekeepers at hotels or like you when you come even to my house.

But we're friends, but still we don't even have to be there, like you could.

You could literally come and take all my watches.

I could, and I wouldn't know if I haven' seen any drugs.

No.

Actually that's like a huge perk of my job, as people will give me their gatecodes or their door codes.

I go into their homes all the time without them being home.

There's a lot of trust though for your job because you take something that we care about greatly, so we have to trust you anyway, Yeah, which is our animals.

So it's like, well, moules will trust you with all of it.

Yeah, here's my checking account, here's my log into my region's bank account.

I am not going to steal my promise, just here to take care of puppies.

We went to dinner together last night, me, me, my wife, you your husband.

We ended up sitting one two one two, which everybody act like that was a big deal at first because I was sitting next to you, you were sitting next to Kaitlin.

How did you feel about the awkward sitting?

I loved it At one point.

You and I were talking about the Big ten Championship, Go buck Eyes, and they were like.

Talking about pregnancy skincare.

Well, that was that was the point of it.

It was I always talked to Kaitlin right all the time, and if we're sitting on the same site, it broke it up because there were times when I was talking to your husband.

Yeah, so I was pretty proud of myself with that.

I loved it, thank you.

My wife did not love it at first.

She was like, what the heck, But then once we got settled, I was like, this was a great idea.

Yeah, and you're wearing the same thing you were last night.

Thank you for asking.

Here's why let's hear it.

First of all, we should normalize guys telling other guys they liked their clothes.

Because I just left therapy and I was walking out the door.

Another guy was walking in and he goes, hey, man, I like your sweater and I said thanks, man, And then I was walking I was like, dudes, never say that to dudes.

He wasn't hitting on me.

No, he genuinely liked your sweater.

Yeah, you likewater really cool?

Thanks.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

And so yeah, we should normalize.

If a guy likes something on another guy, they should be able to say.

I did a TikTok where I will take screenshots of guys in clothes that I like.

I think that's way more common for women.

Yeah no, but if you're like looking for some fashion inspo, I get it.

Yeah, I only call it inspo, but I do.

I did screenshot and I shared it with some people and they made fun of me, and they were like, guys, don't do that.

Oh I disagree.

Also, guys just try to like be cool, Like I think guys complimenting guys is a great thing and we really should do more of that.

Yeah.

So he complimented my my cardigan, and you said, you're wearing the same thing.

So during the morning show, we will take interviews ahead.

I never have guests live ever because it's too early.

Oh really, So when I come on the radio, it airs the next day.

Yeah or two days.

Oh wow, did you not know that?

I didn't really think about it.

Just show up, do your thing, and I'll pay attention to anything else.

Yeah, totally, So, because that happens a lot, and we're editing in and out of guests, and sometimes if I'm leaving.

I'll wear the same clothes for like three days in a row, so you can't tell an edit.

Wow.

Now I only wear them at work and then I change once I get home.

Today I didn't have that luxury because I had to go to physical therapy.

But I wear the same clothes because when we're editing clips, if it's a whole day, my clothes never changed, right, and so it doesn't look like we're puzzling a show together.

That makes sense.

So that's why have you been going to the radio in your boot?

I have to.

I've been going on a cart for a while.

When I was rolling around on the cart, I saw the cart, and that's difficult.

I have a security guy and he helps me.

Means more than a security guy.

He's like been my personal security guy for fifteen years.

But he helps me.

He unloads the car, takes it up the stairs.

It's been great, is it Tim?

It is Tim?

Yeah?

You know Tim?

Yeah, he's the best.

Retiring?

No, really, how do we replace.

Tim retiring for a second time?

He'll come back.

I don't think you will, dang it, because he retired from law enforcement because he was We'll just say one of the law enforcements with three letters.

I want to give too much about him, Okay, And then he retired completely and then joined me thirteen years or so ago and has been me the whole time.

I've tried to talk him out of retiring.

Yeah, and he said, you know, my body is still a little able and I'm still willing.

So I want to retire while I have a little bit of money and can still move around and can go do stuff.

You know what, Tim, fair enough?

I still don't like it.

No, we decline your offer.

But I know my wife and Tim are the only people that have me on my define my on my phone?

Oh really?

Wow?

Tim, hows you on find mine?

Because I might be abducted sometime and the only way to find me is by fine mine.

Can you imagine someone kidnapping you?

Why do you say it like that?

I just think would why?

Why would that be such.

A like we should just give this guy back.

I'm curious as to what characteristics I possess that What have you make that joke?

Similar to my husband?

Same thing.

They'd be like, let's just give him back?

No, no, why?

And you have carte blanche.

We are friends outside of anything professional, outside of the podcasting space outside of the VET space, you can say whatever you want.

No, I just think you would be like I think you would just like annoy them in the sense you're like, yeah, fine, couldnap me.

Like I think you would just have like some retorts for them or they like we need.

To give them back.

I'd be curious to know why do you want me?

Like, yeah, what was the genesis?

Yeah, like the motivator, not even the motivation of the actual kidnapping, right, But yeah, I would have a lot of questions.

I'd have a lot of questions how far they thought this through, had they done it before?

And if they answer those, then I know they're going to kill me, which would then make me change my strategy completely.

Yeah.

Well this is about you though, So you have when you watch movies, Do you get as sad on animals die as I do, since you work with animals all the time, Because I would rather see every human die.

Don't touch the dog.

You know what, that's fair?

Maybe a little part of me's dead inside.

I don't know, like I have to compartmentalize that a little bit.

Of course, I'm sad, like I don't want any animals to die.

It's a movie though, Yeah, but it's fake.

It's fake.

It's absolutely fake.

Yep.

So I don't get maybe as worked up as you do.

But I don't think that you should.

And I think I've mentioned this before.

Is I want my surgeon, I want my vet.

I want them to be a little numb.

Yeah, because if you're doing anything emotional, if your heart rate is up, you're not going to perform at the height of your abilities a million percent.

I don't do ANCJ on my own animals because I'm emotionally attached to them, and so if they were coding or something was going awry while they were under I don't trust my judgment fully because I'd be emotional.

Now if it's Stanley or Eller, I'm gonna of course I love them, but I would be able to execute, like for sure.

So I still fall back to you saying kidnappers will be annoyed with me.

I take that as a compliment.

I took a test and it said that I was on the spectrum a little bit.

Okay, do you think I'm on the spectrum a little bit?

I think the more I'm learning about people who are neurodivergent, my husband's neurodivergent.

Is that that spectrum is like massive.

It is, and I think that's why more people are now considered on the spectrum.

It's not freaking people getting stabbed of vaccine.

It's because there's more understanding of what the spectrum is exactly.

So I don't do I think you'reunk maybe a little Maybe you're on that spectrum.

Who isn't on the spectrum a little bit?

And I feel seen whenever i've because I've always been a little different.

Yeah, I think it makes you.

Great unless you're a kidnapper.

Unless you're a kidnapper, they're going to be like this guy.

Okay, other animal questions, Okay, did you ever see I Am Legend with Will Smith?

Yes?

Is that an apocalypse movie?

Yeah?

Kind of.

He's got the dog.

Yes, it's the German shepherd.

Yeah.

That was sad.

That sucked, right, that sucked.

Yeah, I was sad.

But it's not real.

Yeah, but it's still it's real in our in the estate that we're in while watching a movie.

Did you watch that doesn't make me emotional?

Like Marley and Me?

I read that.

I cried.

I read the book like a baby.

I'm surprised you did cried like a baby.

Because you have to deal with it so much.

I don't think you're any more or less emotional in general, but because you have to deal with it so much.

I'm so desensitized to news because I talk about current events all the time.

Right, earthquake kills nine hundred nuns, orphans all caught on fire, every charity just burned up, And I'm like, all right, a man, that sucks.

All right, next story, Like that's just because I've done so many stories like that.

But think about if.

It happens to you, Like so for me, when other people's pets pass away, I'm sad.

I'm like, oh, this is terrible, but I can compartmentalize it, just like you reading news articles.

But like, let's say something happens to your wife or your family or your fah.

Yeah yah, yeah, that's real to my animals.

Like then I'm devastated.

Yeah, Marley and me.

I finished the book on an airplane.

It was crying so hard.

The person next to me actually said, are you okay?

Like no, I'm not, but I had a book in my hand.

Do you cry during movies?

I don't.

I really don't cry, Okay, I'm not ashamed of crying.

It is not a masculine anything at all.

It's a vulnerability thing.

Was this around when what was your pit bull's name?

Stanley?

No, no, oh oh oh.

I've had three dogs, three dogs that are so Bradley got sent to the farm rest in peace.

You know that story?

I do you know that story?

Arkansas, Keith.

They lied to me.

I believed it until I was thirty nine or forty years old.

He was executed.

He never went to the farm sidebar.

This Boston terrior.

It was a mean, low sucker.

Yeah, not to me.

But it would sleep on I never had a bedroom growing up, so I slept on the couch and it slept on my chest on the couch, and it would have bad dreams and bite and it's bad dreams.

It naturally was a bier.

So it was biting you while it was asleep.

Yeah, it wasn't out of aggression, right.

It lived in an biding world.

What a legend, and it's sleep It was biting things and maybe it was Maybe it was just aggressive all the time, even unconscious.

So I still have scars on me from the dog biting me.

I love that dog so much, and it bit multiple people and when it finally bit someone that we didn't know.

Yeah, it's not like they could suit it because we didn't have money.

We were in a small town.

Right, But how do you feel about someone having to actually shoot their own dog.

Well, I don't recommend anyone shoot their own dog.

I think there now there's way more humane.

Well country always mark more in the country.

Yeah, but even still, you can take your dog to the vet and we will human humanely euthanize them for pennies on the dollar rather than shooting them.

Promise, do you okay?

Arkansas Keith was born in probably like the fifties or something.

Which, by the way, we do have to euthanize dogs for being aggressive.

It's horrible.

It sucks.

It's like my least favorite part.

Of my job.

You know, we have to use the next humans for being aggressive.

Too awful.

Maybe just for the writer, you know, it's not just animals.

Yeah.

Do you think it makes Arkansas he's a bad person.

No, I don't think it makes some about I just think he used the resources that he had in education.

He had to do what he thought was right.

Because the dog had Sadly, the dog had to be put down yeah.

I mean I think if he was a public health risk, I understand.

Man.

That dog was awesome, except it was.

It was terrible.

It was a terrible dog.

That was like my Biggie, the dog that bit you.

My I held that dog with love and tender gentleness and it bit the as a monster.

I know.

He was so bad.

Yeah.

I loved that dog.

And so that was Bradley.

When I moved to Austin, Texas, and I was living there, and as I moved there, I didn't know anybody.

You ever moved anywhere by yourself without knowing anybody.

Nashville, you don't know anybody, not a soul.

Oh we're going to come back to that.

Yeah.

So I moved to Austin and knew nobody moved there by myself.

There was a new story about a puppy mill being rated, and all these dogs were at the pup mill.

I was one and got one of them.

There's no they just gave me a dog.

There was no paper.

I just drove up and they were like, you can have one.

It was crazy, looking back.

I did it.

So I took probably too young to take, but there was no other option because it's a.

Puppy mill, the shelter or the rescue or whatever.

So I had Dusty four yeah, for like thirteen or fourteen years.

Wrecked me.

No, there's another loss like.

It wrecked me.

Yeah.

I when we were touring because I was doing a lot of touring with Raging Idiots, my comedy band, and I was just starting to do some stand up and so I then had to have a bus because mostly it was pretty equal.

We just all had bunks and we could put more people in.

But I was like, I have to have a big, big room in the back.

And they got tak my dog because he's dying, and so we drove around.

I dedicated my last book to him, not the dog book, but my fail until you don't And on the front page it has too Dusty the best dog that had die.

You'll never know this well, mostly because dogs can't read, so got it, but that dog and I did d I don't want to it's this whole podcast to be sad, but I had to go after Oh.

It was my complete adult growth dog.

Oh yeah, like as I grew as an adult.

That's my association with him.

He was with me the whole time.

That's best buddy.

Yeah, and I had to go and do that and put them down.

It's awful.

It's awful.

I would venture to say, most people that are listening to this that have animals can think of that one awful dog or cat that they had in their twenties or thirties, like when they were really going from childhood into being an adult, and those animals like they help shape who you are.

I know, it sounds crazy if you don't have that.

My for sure adult adult dog like growing as an adult, was with me the whole.

Time, yes, through heartbreak and breakups, and before.

We went in when I put him down, we listened to Jack White.

I believe that we are going to be friends.

I still remember it so vividly.

It's so But this is what I took from that.

It's awful, it's awful.

Yeah, But what I took from that, and what I would tell other friends who had to put their animals down, was I'm so grateful that I was so sad, because had I not been so sad, none of that would have mattered.

For twelve or thirteen years.

I had a great twelve thirteen years with that dog exactly, and had I not, I would not have been asked sad exactly.

It was a bowling ball to the gut.

I was a wreck for months.

It makes me sad thinking about it now, but I am so happy I get to be that sad because that animal brought me such.

Fulfilled your life.

Oh yeah, but you love unconditional love.

Okay, how about this?

Now that you're in like a socioeconomic place to do, so would you have it?

You can say, rich, I make jokes about it.

I've bean jokes about it now because people used to say, why do you still look like you're poor?

So now I just go I'm ridge.

Okay, go ahead, now that you're filthy, rich, I wouldn't clone a dog.

Now, I was going to ask you, would you clone Dudley?

His name is Stanley or Dusty?

Does you combine the two?

Now you have?

Actually you have genetically modified my two dogs into one dog named Dudley.

Uh No, I would, And I think there are one too many dogs that need to be adopted.

Yeah, and two I think that what's the difference in having a cloned dog?

You can't actually talk with a dog, as much as I've tried.

I've talked to a dog a lot, right, But you can't actually talk to a dog and have them talk back to you.

Just having their offspring feels like it would almost be exactly the same thing from what you would be able to tell.

I have a client who cloned your dog.

I'm taking care of the clone.

The clone is an identical replica, looks wise, but personality why is completely different?

Okay, so is it even cloned?

Then it's clone DNA, but think like but.

I know, yeah, you're I asked that question wrong.

Is it even what you wanted then as a clone?

Because you wanted the exact version of what you had.

Exactly, it has a different personal I had different It got beat up at the dog park when it was a puppy, so now it's terrified of other dogs.

But the og loved other dogs because that never happened to it when it was a puppy.

So totally different personality.

Wow, I know sometimes so that has really kind of get.

That cost fifty grand?

Yeah, it's about fifty grand.

Yep.

If someone came to you and said, what do you think about me cloning my dog?

What would you say?

I'd say it's a personal decision.

I'd say from my experience, I've seen people just so you know, it could have a totally different personality.

But and that's not why you want a clone, if you if I want some to clone, I want the exact freaking thing.

Yeah, Like if I was a clone biggie who passed away, I would want him to be just as nasty.

Yeah, you'd want to see that's the reason of the clone.

Otherwise you just have their offspring.

Yeah, have them have a kid.

Then genetically it's almost the same.

Wow, that's crazy that you're watching a clone.

Yeah.

Yeah, I take care of a clone.

You take care you meaning you, that's your uh my.

Patient, got it?

And then we get asked, I mean we as veterinarians have to sedate or aneseties to harvest the skin to send into the lab for the cloning.

No way, yeah, I think the labs in Dallas.

So how do you do that?

Do you think?

Is it like as so simple as a scalpel cutting something super simple?

Just harvest a piece of skin, you put it in a special container, and then you send it off.

Mike, is this as bizarre to you as it is to me?

Right now?

I know that we talked about even Tom Brady doing it, but her having actual first hand.

Yeah, is that weird.

That's insane, it's insane.

Okay, So you're they're they're for sure they're for shared on humans, right.

Cloned humans.

No, they for sure have rights.

I'm glad to have right if it's if it's so, churses are cloned.

They are everywhere cloned horses huge and like, is this.

A conspiracy theory?

No?

No, no, no no, there's tons of clones, tons and tons, like in Argentina where they play polo.

Entire thousands of horses have been cloned and they're riding and playing clones of the best pull.

Of horses ever inside information or is this known?

No, this is known.

So then why would you pay a ton of money for the offspring of a horse.

Let's say Secretary was still alive and someone pays, uh, what do they call that?

That fee?

That like the stud fee, the stud fee?

Why would you So that's the huge thing now, because listen, you pay for the stud fee, which is like the egg and the sperm to come together.

Which the studfee.

It may not they may not even have a kid exactly.

Well the clone though, you have the skin.

And exactly, and then you have to breed them.

You have to find the mayor.

Then you have to raise them, and then they may not even turn out to be good.

But the clone, you.

Know, are the clones often as good as the animalot of times are really good, more so than if it's a you know, half and a half because you had a mom and a dad horse.

The clones are better typically than the ones that are bred.

So okay, amazing.

Listen here, Why what would keep me then from breaking into a place.

I don't need to watch horses have sex.

But all I need to do is like break into a stable.

Yeah, take a little skin and get out, Like that's the ultimate heist of a million dollar horse.

We just we just came up with a new business plan.

Like that would be that?

That would I would do that?

Yeah, of like American Pharaoh or whomever.

Yeah, you could you could clone.

That's a famous horse.

Yeah, he won the Triple Crown.

He's a big racehorse.

I'm sure that in horse racing, I do not know, but I'm sure there's rules you can't race clones.

How do they know it's a clone?

Though?

Is there like no blue check?

They know because that they're not Instagram verified?

Of course, No, they know because they know the pedigree.

You have to turn in the pedigree of each racehorse.

Can't you lie?

I don't like it's so tightly buttoned up.

I think it'd be really hard.

But maybe I.

Can't believe they have cloned horses.

Yeah, and it's so known.

I'm going to send you a documentary.

Yeah, oh yeah, very well known.

Wow.

Yeah, mind blowing.

So back to my point of if we're doing dogs, no problem, and we got cloned horses everywhere, you don't think somewhere in a lab in Russia they've done this with humans, probably or China.

Probably it's it's yeah, probably there's an arms race.

That's scary with technology science everywhere all the time.

And again, if we can do horses and dogs so easily, for sure, Oh.

Yeah, it's the same mammals, that's the same.

It's got to be the same.

The horse thing blows my mind.

That's really scary to think about.

I don't know.

If I wouldn't want to be cloned.

I would.

I would tell me more.

I mean, it wouldn't be you, it would just be another.

But like what if the next you comes back and as a total asshole?

Some would say this version is okay.

The next one's going to be better.

Many a kidnapper don't want anything to do with me.

It's true.

I would like a version of me that I can work with because I would send them to do.

Oh you'd like to still be alive while your clones alive?

Oh yeah, No, I wanted to go out and do stuff.

I hate waking up in the morning.

Okay, so I have to like go in early and record commercials.

I have to hoard like one hundred commercials in the morning.

Yeah, I got to record station liners.

I gotta record.

I won't do any of that.

I would have my clone going and do all that.

I would commit straight for the meat.

Is that in the morning when you Because I was in the airport the other day and I was getting my bag and I heard you say, oh, well, welcome to Nashville.

Like you do all this?

That was live.

I sit up at the top of the airport and do that.

I go in for an hour shift, like is he here?

Yeah, we're all up there.

All those people on the top have a microphone and we're just like all right, Colse Windell, you go, Miranda, yes it yeah.

People don't know that, but that's one of the things about Nashville being live so real.

We're up there mind blown about horses.

Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

You moved to Nashville.

Oh, to Dusty, I would not clone him.

He's the greatest, greatest, like little friend I had in my whole life.

Stanley gets to be a different story and then Eller gets to be a different story for sure.

But I did move to Austin, had no really no system.

So I had that dog.

Yeah, he was your Yeah.

You moved to Nashville without knowing anybody.

Why Nashville.

My husband and I were living in Chicago during COVID.

So you had a husband, though you knew somebody.

You came with your husband.

We came together and knew no one.

That's we as a UNI.

That takes percent of intensity off of it.

Well, yeah, you had to like somebody.

That's true.

Like we could go out and meet people together.

Or you could just be together at home.

Yeah, true, but it was still scary to like.

I agree.

I agree going to a new city is tough.

But I went by myself and just sat on my thumb when I wasn't at work, like there was.

And also, I'm not no Katelyn.

I'm not the most outgoing person anyway, so it's not like I would never leave.

That's awful.

Why did you guys move here?

While we were living in downtown Chicago and it was twenty twenty and everything was boarded up, and we just wanted to change.

I was going to be a partner probably at the practice I was at, and I knew.

I was like, we're going to get locked in.

We're going to end up in downtown Chicago forever if we don't make a change, and we wanted to try something different.

So we Why Nashville though.

Well my husband for mainly for tax reasons.

He's like, you can choose Austin, Miami or Nashville.

Where do you want to go?

Like State Texas?

Yeah, exactly, And I chose Nashville.

I was like, well, I like horses.

My family's in Indiana.

So we did not even visit.

We just bought a house sight unseen and drove down.

Really yeah, I didn't visit Austin ever before I went different situation.

It's awesome.

It's the greatest city ever.

Other than I've like I have different home loves, because it's home.

But Austin's my favorite city.

Yeah, it's a great city.

No, no winter and there's like two weeks of winter.

It's also very outdoorsy, got the river.

It is all that stuff.

But no winter is really the selling.

I hate cold.

I know you hate that.

Hate cold.

I tried to pickleball with you in like fifty five.

No, I'm not doing it.

I do not have enough clothes for that.

Why just it doesn't you just hate it?

I don't like cold, Okay, I'd rather be very hot.

Austin was great because yeah, and it was young.

Yeah, and I was young.

Yeah, it was great, my favorite city.

It was create it was warm and welcome to creative people.

Yes, you weren't weird.

Also, you really didn't know who was rich and who was poor, because I got to go through some phases there, move there poor and didn't leave rich, but left what I thought was rich.

When I left Austin, I was making a few hundred thousand dollars a year.

I literally thought I was rich.

Yeah, and that is that was rich.

That was so rich to me.

It is because I never thought at least I had a nice house.

It was crazy.

Austin now though I think is a little like it's pretty saturated now in what way, Like I just think, I mean similar to Nashville, but I think it's probably ten years ahead of Nashville.

Everybody's move like it's I think it's I think they're very similar, you do, I do.

I don't think they're similar in the music space.

I think a lot of people in Austin would go, oh yeah, it's a lot Nashville.

It's not that Nashville is a billion dollar super musical industry.

Not uncomparable.

In my opinion, Austin has a lot more technology, yes, far far greater technologic, A.

Lot of Silicone Valley people came there.

Yeah, but people do move to both places a lot for the same reason you moved here.

Yeah, I mean we were getting taxed.

The crazy thing about taxes was property property taxes.

Yeah, it was insane.

Even here is way less.

I mean, they just reassess them, but it's way less than it was in Chicago.

I think property taxes makes sense, but I think there's a way that you should be able to mature out of.

Them, Like you've paid them for X amount of.

Yeah, I'm okay, you pay them.

I hate though, to see property taxes go up in neighborhoods where people don't have a lot of money.

Yeah, and all of a sudden, Yeah, people start building stuff around them on their property values up, and all of a sudden, they've got a fat tax.

That's not fair.

That's one of the Yeah, that's one.

But two, you live somewhere for fifteen to twenty years, whatever the rule is, we're going to start dropping your property taxes at about ten years, incrementally by percentage.

I think that's a great idea because it's weird to keep paying taxes on something you already own.

There's nothing else that we fully own all the time we got to keep paying taxes on.

So but I understand.

Why you can really get taken advantage of Yep.

So you like home.

Now this is home.

We're here to stay.

We love Nashville.

I mean, you know, everyone's so warm and welcoming.

And now, I mean my business is here, now, my husband's business is here.

Your business has changed because when we met at first, you were work.

You had your own practice in a building.

Yeah, I remember.

It took you on a tour.

Yeah, it was cool.

We went to brunch, was cool to walk back there and see like ther and the dental suite.

Yeah, I sold my practices and knew I still wanted to be a vet.

So I said, I've got to do.

Something where I can be a veterinarian but have a different quality of life because being in the hospital is a grind.

I mean you're in there ten to twelve hours a day, every single day, and I'm managing thirty people.

So I decided to start a concierge practice.

Would people come into your practice though, your brick and mortar practice, just if a dog got hit and they just rush a dog in?

Yeah?

Oh yeah, So.

It was an emergency room type situation.

I mean we were a general practice, so primarily we were seeing scheduled visits, but like if a dog got hit in the neighborhood, they would come rushing in if.

It was open.

Was there always a doctor there?

Yes, yeah, always a doctor.

And so you're there, you're doing your thing in there times where you're just like, oll I got to jump in and I was practicing, Yeah save this dog or cat.

Do anybody ever bring weird animals in?

Like at Chinchilla people.

Would call about like chinchillas and rabbits and guinea pigs.

I will do like the occasional pocket pet we call them.

I really don't do reptiles.

That's the one where I kind of draw the line.

I also don't know much about birds.

And now I go to like a lot of country music stars homes and a lot of them have like chickens and goats and whatever, and so I'll like, honestly, I have to like go watch YouTube video sometimes.

Is there a different Are birds different than mammals as far as like how they I know, it's a really dumb person question.

It's not.

Reptiles and birds are a totally different species.

So what about mammals to birds?

Very different?

Very different?

So mammals like doing a hamster or I've done a hedgehog taking care of a hedgehog versus like a cat, like a little a lot more similar than doing a chicken.

Body temperature is different, different, Like I think that to me would seem a great contrast between a bird and a cat.

Yeah, warm blooded versus cold blooded a snake.

Yeah.

Are there people that niche that industry of pocket pets?

Though, yes, there are exotic vets that really only do exotics.

So frogs, turtles, chinchillas.

They should put that next to one of those places that only sell Lamborghinis and Porsches.

There should be you know how Kentucky Fried Chicken and like Taco Bell would have like the joint.

Yes, they should do exotic cars, and yes, exotic cars and exotic pets.

You get your Lamborghini because it's those kind of people or young kids for the most part, that have weird pets.

Get your Lambo serviced, eke your python shots.

Get your chinchilla neutered.

Wait, genius, right after we start harvesting horse skin.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Is that happening here?

Do you think?

Oh, yeah, it's happening in the US.

Is it taboo?

I don't think so.

No.

I mean people they're very open about it for sure.

Humans for sure, now that I know, they're doing bigger things.

Because obviously it was sheep.

We know Dolly in the sheep, But you still have to study about Dolly.

Yeah, yeah, we learned about Dolly.

What you can you teach me?

What did you learn?

I honestly can't remember.

It was my biology one on one of like my freshman year in undergrad.

All I remember is they cloned a sheet named Dolly.

Yeah, and it was the first clone.

I remember thinking, then they're lying, this is the first clone they're telling us about.

Yeah.

I never think anything that we see that we're told as the first is actually the first.

And that's why I could never set you.

Oh for sure, they'd be like, dude, just go, let's get out.

Whenever I was watching the Las Vegas it's called the it's like the EA whatever it is where they bring in the new technology and they show it off.

Mike, do you remember what that's called, that big seminar, that festa whatever, they bring in all this new stuff.

It's a big fest every year.

It's a big convention.

Yes, yes, thank you?

Yes?

Is the alarm I set off?

The cost me a million dollars?

C?

Yes, I remember that?

Yeah yeah, C yes.

Is when they bring in all the new technology.

Are you in Vegas for this?

For what this conference?

No?

I just watched clips.

I was wondering if this is when you found poop in your back Veagos.

I was in Vegas for that one.

I know, my shower.

That's my favorite story ever.

Did you talk about that on the radio?

Yeah?

Little, I don't like Okay, I'm gonna pinning that one.

I'm sorry, Okay, I'm done.

No because I'm gonna go back to that.

Okay.

But they were showing these birds.

They were flying around at ces like two years ago.

Real birds.

No, oh, birds that looked real.

They keep cameras in them.

Like a drone and a fake bird.

You'd bet all the money you ever made that that's a real bird.

It looks so scary.

And they'd flied around the room.

It was real.

And they were like, this is the first time, Like that's bull crap.

You don't think gover if they're giving it to us, you don't think government's I've been doing this for fifteen years.

You know, Russia's got those over sure.

And you know I don't believe in that.

No birds are real, you know that whole thing.

We're all bird I don't believe that.

Because there are real birds l or my dog has actually killed them and brought them into the house.

I can confirm, Yes, birds are real.

But when I saw that, I was like, oh, they've been watching us with birds, not just droned because they can fly a drone so high we can't see it, and they can monitor us, no doubt, but they can get lower with fake.

Birds because people are less suspicious.

And now I've seen birds that are humming bird sized.

That's scary that we can buy.

And again, you know, if we can buy them and use them to monitor folks, the government's been doing that forever totally.

So I was in Vegas and we walked into my hotel, our room, my wife and I.

We were staying there for a festival, and I looked down at the shower and I was like, I felt bad for Kaelin.

I was like, did she did you get sick?

No, she couldn't.

There's poop in the shower, and she was like, no, let me she goes.

Oh my god.

She came and looked in it, and I called and I was like, Hey, what do you say?

Somebody pooped in our shower.

We've been in that room for two days already, by the way, and so it had to be a cleaning person.

Had anyone you'd showered already?

What do you mean, like, had you used them multiple times?

We've been there for two days, and.

So I didn't realize that.

I thought you had just checked in.

No, so you have been there.

Yeah, No, it happened while we were gone, and poop.

We were gone for like.

Are you sure you didn't accidentally poop and not.

Realize I'm sure I didn't accidentally poop.

Caitlyn wouldn't.

She's never poop in her life.

No, never, so never poop.

Nope, not once.

If anyone would have it would have been me, but it wasn't me.

And we we found it and I didn't say what we were saying, and I went on social media and I was like, this pooped in my shower.

This is a crazy thing I've ever seen.

And they came up and they cleaned it.

Like the owner of like the hotel called me the next day, mortified.

I'm sure, yeah, very much so, and he was like, I am so sorry, thank you for not saying the name of the hotel on your Instagram.

We saw what can we give you?

Like who?

And I, like an idiot?

I was like, nothing, that's happens.

Yeah, it really doesn't happen.

But also didn't want to be the guy that was like, you know what, I need a free week?

Yeah exactly.

So he was like, well, let me know if you ever need anything.

And there have been times I've thought about it, but I don't even think he would remember if I called now, But like, remember two years ago when someone pooped in my shower.

I think you would remember.

Yeah, that was a crazy story.

I didn't realize you've been staying there.

Yeah, yeah, no, No, we didn't just come in.

Got it.

It wasn't like a towel in there.

Yeah, there's a a wet towel was in there as well, someone poop.

What's your theory then, if there's a wet towel and there's poop in the shower, because the wet towel forgot all about the wet towel, Yeah, that's how you know it wasn't one of us.

Yeah, I still think there's a chance it could have been you.

How that's your theory?

It for sure wasn't, But I understand you know, I can be most likely.

Do you get grossed out by animal poop?

Not at all?

No, I will say.

I mean, I'm telling people now I'm pregnant in the.

First You are now saying I am so by the time this airs, which will be over a week from net right, Mike, but you have to put it down.

Yeah, okay, okay, everybody, Josey's pregnant.

That's awesome.

Yeah, the first trimester of smelling in my job.

If poop doesn't gross me out anal glands like I've been, I've had horrible things happened to me in the med field.

I almost fainted multiple times in my first trimester because of the smells.

There were times where Stanley was so sick.

I would you would request pictures of poop?

Yes, I couldn't do that either.

People owners will send me, Hey, here's a poop.

I stopped sending it once I knew you were pregnant.

I stopped even like asking about things because I knew because Kaylen had gone through it.

Yeah.

So yeah, it was a rough go.

But now I'm better.

Now I'm well into the pregnancy and I can smell poop again and not gag.

But I don't like animal poop doesn't bother me.

All human poop kind of grosses me.

I'm just not a poop guy in general.

That being said, Stanley's poop does not bother me at all, because he was so sick for so long.

I have no problem wiping them.

Have nothing there too, unfaced none, yep, And I listen.

I scrub like the dickens when it's over, because I know just poop has a lot of ms, like back tore all the bad stuff.

But I have no because he like almost.

Died he was so sick.

Yeah, but he like didn't go didn't go to the bathroom except like it was like water and I've just cleaned off of him.

It was nothing.

It was the only time in my life that I've ever been Yeah.

You really wiped him.

You took really good care of him.

Bulldogs, I do not recommend them, And I have to say I love mine.

I was saying this on the show the other day.

Unless you have a lot of money to just be like I'm going to spend tens of thousands, yeah, literally, and you know what with us, with me, I think we're probably getting close to almost more than tens of thousands.

I think you're close.

He's had nine surgeries yea, his eyes.

We might be a one hundred thousand dollars for that dog.

Yeah, I don't know even if you have the money, Like there, I mean Stanley, I will say he has great confirmation.

I don't know what that means.

Like his body type is good, Like he gets around pretty well.

There are some bulldogs that like can barely get around.

Because they're so like like large like fat.

Well like fat, and they're short to the ground and we take X rays and their spines are all wonky, almost like scoliosis.

And is it all because of like the inbread Yeah, like just yeah exactly.

You know you're breeding them to be small in pocket sized, and then they've got these smushy faces and they can't breathe.

It is almost like it's bordering a little unethical.

I feel that way even with the bulldog that I love.

Yeah, I tell people, don't get a bulldog, almost like let's let them all live out die of old age and people, that's just not making them.

You would be.

Hard pressed to find a vet or anyone in that animal world that would not agree with you.

I just feel like the dog is always suffering.

Yes, exactly.

You're the one who told me that.

When Stanley is like breathing hard, it's like he's like us breathing through a straw exactly.

Imagine breathe through a straw.

Imagine running, yeah, and then coming in the only way you can catch your breath.

That's be holding your nose of breathing through a straw exactly.

That sucks.

That sucks.

He's and he gets amazing care.

I mean, you were lucky that you know, you can do everything for him and he gets amazing care.

But not everybody has that, so then you've got them that are really suffering.

I would recommend not getting a bulldog.

That's would I and I love my bulldog and everybody knows that.

But he got really sick to where his hair started to fall off in spots.

I mean he lost fifteen twenty pounds, his hair started falling out.

It was he had a really bad autoimmune that's kind of what it was, right, Yeah, And then we had to put them on steroids to help calm down the autoimmune.

Portion of it.

And then the steroids cause side effects, which causes hair to fall out.

Is a whole thing.

I bet he lost a sixth of his hair.

He was looking like a chuckerboard.

And he's fully back, yeah, healthy as can be.

And he oh he's back.

Yeah.

And when he feels really good, he's kind of a dick.

Yeah.

And when he feels really bad, he's kind of a dick.

He's not like he's never been.

I mean, I know, I'm always on team Caitlin, but and I know she feels like he can be a dick, but he's always been so sweet.

I feel like he can be a dick.

I know he can.

Yeah.

I think when he tries to eat poop, I think he loves to just die vomits poop outside, So we got to walk outside with him.

That is gross and that's bad.

He gets resource guardie over that.

I agree bulldogs, I think, just in general.

I think that's why I'm a little more understanding.

I just think they're just stubborn big time.

Yeah.

And sometimes I'll tell her, well, he can't hear, and then there'll be like one crumble if something hit the floor three rooms away.

And he's like, he's also pretty fast.

Still he's still an athlete.

Yeah, he's still an athlete.

Still likes some play ball.

He's six little over six.

Now, what's is I also know the reality of bulldogs eight and a half or nine?

Yeah, I mean I have a bulldog Pati right now, that's twelve.

No way, she's small, like a smaller slender one.

But yeah, I mean, so they can get into their double digits for sure.

The Bobby Cast will be right back.

This is the Bobby Cast.

We found Eller well, we found her online that someone had found her so we just went to their backyard and they were like, this dog is this much this old, and we're like, okay, we believe that they were lying to us.

Yeah, she was way younger than that, but she was also on the street.

She was by herself, so we took her anyway.

She had a lot of aggression issues to work through because she even in her young life.

And you can correct me on this, I feel like she was just in survival mode when she was born for anything.

Probably even to eat.

Yeah, exactly, she had to compete for resources.

Also, what people don't realize is when puppies are from two months to six months, the majority of how they will be is shaped in that timeframe, the experiences that they go through.

She used to attack as a puppy puppy, she was a third of the size of Stanley, and she would just go for him and he'd be like, what the crap?

You ever see Scooby do so helpless?

Do you ever see Scooby do the show?

Scrappy doos like a tenth of the size of the But and then she got bigger and then she could take them out.

And so what's been interesting is to watch for the most part, ninety five percent.

How just stability, And I think this happens in humans too, and I think I've seen this as well with just my wife.

Stability creates far less aggression because you don't need to use that aggression because you don't need the weapon.

Yeah, exactly.

And consistency.

We were so consistent with her, and Caitlin was the one that was very consistent structure with all my Bradley, with Dusty, with Stanley.

All my dogs are Lee's ease.

I was there all the time I had them, but I was gone a lot when Caitlin and I got Eller.

And that's why Caitlyn's Eler's alpha.

Yeah.

Yeah, her and Ler are super bonded.

But I have seen a dog go from being absolutely evil to a loving dog.

Eller still has the issues at times.

Obviously she wants to kill Stanley.

She'll pop on Stanley sometimes, resource guarding because she's foods involved.

Yeah, some of that is still like part of who she is.

Yeah, but yeah, she have husky in her yep okay, and she.

Talks all the time.

She'll be outside the window.

Called the call of her people.

What's your favorite breed of dog?

I love a good old fashioned mutt because they're healthy.

They're healthy.

Like I don't know, I just love like something with a beard, something that just looks like it came out of the forest, like you couldn't even like you don't even know what breed it is.

Why.

I just like they're personally like dogs that come from the shelter.

I think they know they've been rescued and they're grateful.

Sometimes I need I tell those dogs my dogs.

You guys have no idea how good your life is?

Yeah, totally, I'll say with English words today.

No.

Yeah, like Ella, I freaking got you out of someone's backyard.

Do you know where you would be?

Ye?

Stanley, you little prince.

He's a trust one baby, big time.

Yeah.

Like you're lucky you're not on a yacht on a coped out of your mind going to die in a year.

Amen.

Well, they know, they know, I know they know.

You ever met Sarah McLaughlin.

No, but I hate that commercial.

You ever met Sarah mcgloughlin.

Yeah, and I was.

It was a long time ago.

I have no real memory either way.

I just think that would be cool for someone that work with animals to meet the person whose things about animals.

She should come on my podcast.

That would be Yeah, that would be an awesome Instagram picture.

And the uh.

Oh my god, it's so sad.

Yeah, but then they find the dogs like one eyed Willie that they're for are going to highlight.

Yeah with the one too.

Yeah, those are my kind of.

Dogs, right out of the woods with a beard.

Yeah, with a beard, one eye, no teeth, three legs.

How have you liked podcasting.

I've loved podcasting.

It's been really fun.

It's a lot more work I think than people realize, though.

What about it that I didn't know because you came from no background in any sort of media.

What about it is more work?

I think, just like coming up with the content.

I mean, you're pretty good at like spitballing, but for me, I really have to think about like I'm running out of cases to talk about, and what do the people want to hear?

You know?

So I think it's a lot of like figuring out what content to talk about for me.

What celebrities are known the you're their vet.

I don't want you to out anybody that you never said, but either you've said, they've been on a podcast, they've been on Instagram with you at Thomas rutzk pets.

His wife's Lauren's been on the podcast.

They're amazing.

How many pets do they have?

They had, Oh my gosh, we've had a bad year.

They have three dogs.

Two of them passed away this year that we are they old old an adrenal gland tumor, and the other one had them filma.

We had a bad year.

But yeah, so now we're down to one dog.

Sure that will change because Lauren's always adopting random things as they come.

So yeah, I do her.

Who else is like kind of out.

I try to like keep a little profile for some of them.

Do Charlie Handsome's dogs.

So we've had Charlie Handsome on the podcast.

Charlie Handsome, big songwriter, big producer for like wall on post Malone.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's why I'm asking people that are already out.

Yeah exactly.

Yeah, people know about him.

Since you did content, can we say the person you were with the other day, Yeah, Kirk Kirktree.

Yeah, and his dog Peter.

He's famous and Peter's so famous.

Yeah, and his son Jake Peter is beautiful, what a beautiful golden retrieber.

I was like wow, and we put.

Him in a backpack.

I don't know if people know of the little chunk backpack, but.

A golden trouting can fit in the backpack.

He fit in the backpack, and this is a big hole.

Kirk kirk Stree.

It seems like the greatest guy.

Don't know him.

I don't know if I've ever met him.

I don't think I do.

But he seems just lovely.

It's because he's in Ohio State grad.

Ohio people are like Canadians, we are just awesome, just way nice.

So you think there's something up.

You're just not sure.

You're like, there's what are they luing me into?

Yeah?

It was e cool.

Yeah, they were so nice, all of them.

Any other celebrities that you've that's been out.

I'm trying to think, who doesn't want to keep a low profile.

No, No, it's that's already been out there.

Like either, Oh, Mackenzie Porter take care of her pets.

I was thinking that that doesn't, that doesn't.

Her and her husband now have a new Filma and James.

Have you heard their music.

It's really good.

And her hair's brown.

Her hair is not because she's on the Nashville nine to one one show.

She plays a doctor.

I want to know that she's a real role.

Yeah, she's an amazing actress.

She was on it, you know I knew that.

Yeah, she has a real role in the show.

Yeah, she's like, she signed for a bunch of seasons.

Oh that's great for her.

Yeah, it's actually really cool.

She was like showing me the cad that she like does surgery on.

It's crazy.

She's like, how do you say this for it?

It's a real body, a real dead body.

It's a body, So they put the person down like the live person, and they put a fake body on top, so you've got the person's head and then there's like a fake body that she has to go in and pretend like she's doing surgery on.

It's crazy.

Okay, so it's a fake cadaver.

Yeah, fake cadaver, got it, not a real one.

Got it?

Yeah?

I didn't.

I didn't know that that show.

I've not seen it.

I hear it's so corny that it's good.

So cheesy.

The first she texted me was like, oh my god, this is embarrassing, Like I can't believe that.

It was like a little girl that got picked up by her kite.

That's the episode that people often say to me, because I'm like, that' showing you good.

They're like, it's terrible, but it's good because once you kind of just spend believes, they're like, this kid gets sucked up on us with the kite.

You got to get past that.

But she's an amazing actress.

She's like a triple threat across the board.

She's awesome.

Who's been your favorite podcast guest favorites too broad?

Who's been the one that you enjoyed more than you thought you would and maybe you had no no consideration of even thinking you would.

Who knows?

I did Victoria Fuller take care of her animal?

She was on the Bachelor, and I didn't really know her.

Do you know anyone from the Bachelor?

Yeah?

I know Caitlyn Bristol because she was just on.

She's great.

Let me see who Victoria Fuller is.

And I did not really know her prior, Like we have met maybe once or twice, and I absolutely loved her.

I don't know her, but yeah, seems nice.

She is, like I would know from a picture, but she's with the Chris guy, Chris Soles in this picture that was she on his season or something?

No, who season she was on maybe Peter's she's got her Mike that she was, She's awesome.

I love to investigate that.

Victoria Fuller, she was on Peter Weber's season.

Okay, is she with Chris Soles now?

Though I don't think so.

You don't think so because I'm trying to match make her.

Oh here we go.

Let me read you this Bachelor Nation's Victoria Fuller and Chris Sole's relationship timeline.

Oh the way they from twenty twenty two.

Oh wow, so I guess they were dating them not anymore.

It briefly dated in twenty twenty.

Didn't know that.

But yeah, she's amazing.

I just I didn't know what to expect.

I don't know that much about bachel Nation, and I just thought she was funny and that's COOLO.

And there's a lot of bachelor people in Nashville, a.

Lot of bachelor at parties here too.

Yeah, tell me about it.

You were on Jason Tartikuse I do his dog?

You're on his podcast?

Oh yeah, you do his dog Teddy.

Oh you have to remember the dog's names?

No, you do you keep?

Do you keep all of them on your phone?

I remember every single pet.

I remember their name, I remember what medication they're on.

I do not remember, at least now I do because I don't have that many clients.

But in practice, I'd be like, oh, you're Fluffy's mom.

I could not remember the humans names that I remember all the animals.

Do you ever have to turn in like CPS and maybe not in your version of you're doing now, but you see a dog that's mystery?

Did so you have to call and tournament?

Yep?

Yeah, socks man.

Dogs that we were suspected were part of like a fighting.

Ring no way like pibulls.

Yeah, piles because you can see like marks like visible.

Yeah, bite wounds we had, I had.

They would bring those dogs in to get fixed so they can fight again.

They would, yeah, bring them in for bites and stuff.

We had rottweilers that were being bred somewhere like maybe in South Nashville that were being like terribly bred, and they were coming in and dying a parvovirus like skin and bones, like a lot of really sad stuff.

Yeah, that's the stuff.

Angry, that's the stuff that I would really have trouble with.

But also I need you to not be as angry as my animal care.

Yeah, I want you to be mad.

I'm mad at the people.

Yeah, I want you to be mad at that.

Yeah, but I need you to be numb a little bit too.

Totally, yes, because you got to perform.

If I cried on every new story that was sad, I would never get to a show.

Yeah, totally.

Okay.

A couple couple more things before you go.

Did you know there's a Logan's right over there?

Is that a roadhouse?

I didn't know it.

I saw it, just saw for the first time.

I like logans.

I didn't know we had one so close.

I don't know if I've ever been.

Well, you took us somewhere I've never been.

Last night, Yeah, yardbirds st Bird.

Well, it's pretty good.

There are no dairy free options.

I think you saw me struggling last night.

As she reallys were dairy free.

Now, I'm lactose intolerant.

I'm not dairy free and I'm not I'm not like leading a charge like I poop of pants.

I know I know about your poop problems, you and Stanley.

But to be fair, I didn't poop in the shower.

That's why I think it might have been you.

Here's the problem.

A little nugget and you didn't realize.

I hate I don't want to have to say this, but there are no nuggets.

That's the thing also that you have going for you.

No, no, if I eat dairy, Yeah, there are no nuggets.

And that was a nugget.

That's how you knew it wasn't Yeah.

It was firm.

Uh.

You took us to dough Birds and all light were shasheeto peppers and wings with nose.

I can't have any salce.

Get you.

I had mazzarella stick.

Oh yeah, it was a whole thing.

Lots of dairy.

Yeah.

Wait, that's sad.

I love dairy.

Can we go to Logans and get non dairy?

I'm sure they have steak in broccoli.

We should go home we get back from the holiday.

Anyway, I just drove buy a company.

I was like, we have a Logans.

I had no idea.

I like Logans.

I have never been to Logans.

Is it kind of like a out back?

Yeah?

Similar?

Have you ever been to Applebee's?

Love apple BEEAs?

Okay?

Good five dollars appetizers.

What's the place where the rolls are delicious?

Is that?

Well?

There's a couple of good role plays Texas Roadhouse has good rolls.

I love their cinnamon butter and their cactus onion.

Red Lobster they have they have good they have good bread, the Cheddar, the Cheddar biscuits, and the Cheddar Bay biscuits.

Uh, whenever Arlie.

I never been to Charlie's.

I think they may be closed, but they have delicious skip buss They're.

Regional because I feel like I've seen a couple o' charlie's, but I don't know that.

We had o' charlie's in Arkansas.

I in Indiana, we definitely had o Charlie's, but I don't know about Yeah, maybe it's regional.

We used to go to Red Lobster once a year and it was our fancy one time a year deal like that was the big dinner every year.

I look forward to it so much.

But the apron on.

I don't think so.

Did you know we're getting an in and out?

Yeah?

My wife showed me a picture on Instagram of it almost being done.

Yeah.

I just drove by it.

So that means I won't get that in and out for about eighteen months because I will not go when the lines crazy.

Okay, it's going to take about that long to normalize here.

I don't know that I've really had it In and Out once, but I wasn't that blown away.

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Here's my official take on In and Out.

Okay, it tastes really good.

It does, but the hype, I guess asking makes it taste less good.

Yeah, you expect it to be.

Like because everyone's like in and Out freaking rocks.

If nobody told you anything about it and it was like, let's stop at this burger place that looks kind of like a chain but maybe not so chainy people in a way, you would be like, oh, this is a really fresh tasting burger.

This is great, yep.

But everybody's pledging their allegiance to In and Out, and all of a sudden, you go.

It's like the movie Old School.

I really liked the movie, but everybody told me how good it was, and then it was the greatest comedy ever.

There was no way it could have possibly lived up to the hype.

And so as good as Old School is and was, even if it's on TBS, it's still funny.

It never to me will be as great as it could have been because people ruined it by overhyping it.

Okay, that's fair, that's what In and Out is.

But their fries are super fresh, that's fair.

I like In and Out and if you can remove the super positive stigma, in and Out's great.

Okay, Mike your thoughts in and Out?

I really like it back when I meet I remember when they first started coming to Texas.

I went waited in a long line for it.

So it's something like waiting a long time for it makes it taste better.

That's fair, because you're starving by time you get up there.

People that aren't from the South, and it's definitely spread more.

Had the same kind of feeling about Chick fil A when Chick Fla was going up into like the Northeast and and everybody's like.

It's awesome, and then people are like, it's just a check.

And then you're like, oh no, it's good.

It's good, but now it tastes worse because you just told me how awesome is going to be.

Yeah, I get what you're saying.

Yeah, So In and Out is really good, okay, in comparison to how good everybody says it is in and Out's fine, okay, But anyway they're.

Going to set my expectations accordingly.

I have no expectations, okay, but there's a Logan's was like a hidden logans.

I didn't even know.

It was like right right, right right, I wonder what will chat about tonight?

And this was not on my list?

What did you think we talked about?

I just I don't know, kind of like this a couple of things.

I wanted to talk about your podcast YEP, and we talked about before you came in, and then.

It is coming back.

I think a lot of people asking.

Me, wow, okay, flex go ahead.

You can't extremely go anywhere without people asking.

No.

People are sobbing me for my autograph, Like when a season four, I'm like, relax.

So see he's enforced coming, he'll done.

Have you done any episodes?

I've done one for the four people that have asked it is coming.

I was so sick my first trimester I couldn't.

Oh did you do it while you're sick?

I know?

I just filmed my first episode like a week ago with the little chunk guy that was here that we went and met Peter herb Street with the little Chunk guy.

That's Chunk is the name of the brand he owns.

I was going to say that felt mean, you know that little chunky guy.

He's actually very very skinny.

That's the brand.

That's the brand Little Chunk.

But he has a very famous corgy.

She's got like two million followers on Instagram and everyone follows her and he rides around New York with her and his backpack.

And now he makes a backpack that he.

Oh, that's cool, very cool, and that's why he was here.

And that's why he was here.

We did some content where he's coming out with a joint supplement that actually gets my samp of approval, So I'm going to help him market it.

It's veterinaryan approved.

When does next season come out?

It'll probably come out like early next year, January.

February and so.

But there's three whole seasons that are up now.

Three whole seasons in the Vet's office.

And you've had some really cool guests because people love to talk about their dogs.

I love it.

There are a couple of things that people love to talk about, their fantasy football teams when they have one, their golf game.

Just dude specifically loved about their golf game and pets and their pets.

I had Justin Anderson on That was one that I just thought about and I love him.

If you're listening, Justin, I love you.

I know Justin from kind of knowing Kristin.

Yes, it's Kristin Cavalarry's best friend.

And yeah, I thought he was like the funniest person alive.

We had the best time you ever met Kristin.

I have not.

I've heard she's really nice too.

So I have had unfair expectations of our meeting where I thought it was gonna be terrible because somebody that grows up, you're just a young famous reality Yeah.

Pretty, you're like, uh, like, I'll do it.

And we were working together.

We were doing like a television and intro thing together.

It was actually me her in the Miz.

Do you know the miss is the wrestler the wrestler.

Yeah, and so that.

Is an interesting combination.

Yeah.

And I was with her before the Miss.

She could not have been nicer.

And what was the greatest It wasn't even about me so much.

You could not have been nicer to Caitlyn, who was with me.

That's huge.

She went out of her way to be to like talk to Caitlint.

It was a great she could have said nothing to me, had been super nice to my wife.

And I've been like that chick rock totally.

So I don't know her, know her, Yeah, but between how because we were together for like an hour, Yeah, between that and how nice she was to Kaitlin and.

She lives like out like she's not really in the mix.

You can just like, I think she's pretty down.

To earth and my and I guess not our but my trainer.

But you did work out with some of the Clue Clue Clue disciples his crew.

He my god, they kicked my ass.

Say that, Well, you said like eight other ones, so I think I know there's like a time limit on when you can't say it.

Kluge trains are and says just wonderful things about it, like as a person.

Yeah.

So Kevin, if you're listening, I feel like he's a good judge character.

He's not listening.

He doesn't listen.

There's no chance.

Here's the thing about Kevin Klug, somebody tag him in this.

Kevin Klug has been my trainer now for probably five or six years.

I'm not sure.

COVID kind of screwed up my mind in years.

That's a very intimate time with someone because you spend an hour and you're just one on one.

Yes, and it's not pleasurable for me either, But there's talking, and after you work out for a few months and a few years, you know a lot of things about each other just because you're there.

Yep.

So this intimate relationship forms.

We would have like Christmas parties at our house.

We had a big He comes like he then't becomes a friend.

We would go do stuff where we go shoot like at Auburn we'd go shoot too much access, Hey you want to come?

Can you get a few hours?

Yeah, let's go.

He'd come with us, get on the plane, come back like he would be a friend.

And then we'd work out one day and he'd be like, hey, your show's on in the morning and I'd be like yeah, man, yeah, he goes, I was flipping doing it.

I heard you so, and I was like, you know what i'd do?

He goes, yeah, I just don't think.

I don't think about it.

I don't think about that.

That's why we love him.

People like that.

I agree, But he'd be like, yeah, and this has happened a couple of times, and I'll kind of end on this.

He'd be like, oh, I heard that segment.

You guys are kind of funny, like surprised.

You're like, oh, like, we're literally together all the time.

We've been doing this forever.

What do you think?

I played the opera a couple a couple of weeks ago, and so it was me and Eddie, and sometimes I go by myself.

Sometimes I'll bring Eddie out and we'll do reging idiot stuff.

And Laney had played before.

Laney's lead singers stir.

Sarah is my wife's best friend.

Sarah is Caitlyn's best friend.

Yeah, so Sarah's best friend, her brother's leads in her lane.

Yes, oh yeah Sarah.

Yeah, Sar the blonde that lives in California, And we'll come Kaitlyn.

Sarah Yeah from Oklahoma?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, so they're Oklahoma people.

Got it?

She lives in La.

Yes.

Oh, I got another crazy story about this, but uh so Sarah is in town because her brother's playing the operay for the first time.

Got it.

And they went to Belmont, yep and then moved out to LA and started to make it.

And their cousins with Abby.

Smeers from Sarah is yeah, Sarah's cousins Abby, Yes, yeah, Okay, so they're here, and we didn't do this on purpose, but they were playing and I was playing the same night, and so Sarah was at the house the night before because her Kaitlyn are best freaking best friends.

And then Sarah I was like, I see tomorrow the operate great.

So Sarah stayed side stage after her brother finished to watch me play, and I came aft off the side stage and she was just like, she was like just so confused.

I was like, what's up.

She goes, you were so funny?

You are really no, But I was like, no, no, no, why are you surprised?

Like am I not just generally funny?

I mean like it's a different I'm having a channel a little different way.

But she was like, I've just never seen you like that.

I'm like, I say funny stuff all the time.

You're like, I'm hilarious.

I'm a barrel of like funny, witty things.

But you can't do that because you're gonna be like in and out.

Oh I don't care.

You can't say that you're too funny.

I've already I've already I'm a plateau at this point.

But when you're on stage, I will say, like, going to your live shows, it's like you're really natural at it.

And when you're singing the Hobby Lobby Bobby song, it is hilarious.

Well, thank you, you're welcome.

Quick story about Sarah Well so Abby, well the whole thing.

So I was doing Dancing with the Stars.

I needed a haircut while I was in California.

Oh, the finalder tonight.

Yeah, by the time this airs, it'll have been a week already.

One.

We're not live, okay, this is the one time she thinks she's live.

Mike.

No, They're like, we have to edit out so many cuss words this camp.

Now you're good on cuss words.

So we're doing I'm doing the show.

I need a haircut.

They do everything else, but they don't cut hair, okay, And so I call my management team and I'm like, hey, I need a haircut in La, Like, do you know anybody?

So they asked somebody at red Light Red Light.

It's like, hey, I have a friend.

Her friend was Abbie Smiers.

She's like, Abby Smeiers has a relative, Go and let her cut your hair.

So I go and I get my haircut.

And did not know Kitlyn.

Then.

No, it was a year before I met Kaitlin.

That's crazy.

I sat and Sarah cut my hair a year before I ever met Caitlin.

And then T minus two or three years later she was a bridesman in your Weddy.

Tell me that's not crazy.

That is crazy.

That's pretty crazy.

That's cool.

Did you were you like, oh, this girl's cool when she was cutting your hair.

Were you like so busy you didn't.

I wasn't busy.

I was just really tired when I did that show because I was doing the radio show, dancing and coming back and forth and it touring a little bit too.

Really a zombie.

Yeah, I'm always nice, but I don't know that I really had the opacity to create a new friendship.

But it was a crazy story.

That is a great that Sarah was who cut my hair when I was in La randomly through being set up and then there she has side of the operating stage going, I can't believe you're phony.

I believe you could cut hair on.

Yeah, exactly.

She does cut hair at the house.

Sometimes she'd cut my hair at the house.

Yeah, I know, she'll like, come to Kaitlyn's here randomly.

This has been enjoyable, hasn't been for you?

Yeah?

I've got a blast.

We've done an hour.

Yeah, No, it's been awesome.

I could do this all night.

There's the logans right down the road.

I'm really anxious to get to.

Now I'm gonna go.

Agree.

You got a reservation?

I got a six fifteen.

No that is not so you know, they have a logans you guys.

Check out Josie's podcast.

It's called in the Vet's Office with Doctor Josie on Instagram.

Doctor Josie, Doctor Josie.

Vett, doctor Josie Bett.

Yeah, that's cool.

Holler.

On the podcast, we answer questions that people DM.

So if you have any questions about your pets, feel free to ask me.

Do you like the chain up going and being a concierge vet?

Now I will never go back.

Really, were you worried that it wouldn't love it?

Take?

I was, remember I called to you.

Yeah, I was so worried.

I was like, hey, can you like look at my business plan, like do you think people are going to do this?

Because I just feel like you're my customer and like my target customer and I just wanted to know what you thought, and you were like, no, it's going to do good, and we are so busy.

That's awesome, hiring another vet, which is awesome.

So but yes, I was worried and it was kind of crickets at first, but you know, once things get going and people start talking and I'm word of mouth.

Were were you your first customer?

You guys were definitely yeah, if not first, top first three, yeah, definitely.

Did you ever have MySpace?

Yes?

Okay my top three?

Yeah, that's what that's what I think of.

Like we move, Where are we in the little No?

No, no, you're right You and Tom Yeah we're right there.

Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, you guys follow Josie, uh check out in the vet's office.

She's got uh like thirty episodes or something out Yeah, a lot.

And all right, that's all.

Josie, thank you, We

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