In this episode of the Teach Different podcast, Dan and Steve Fouts explore a quote by Booker T. Washington regarding success: “Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has as by the obstacles which he has overcome.” They explore the claim of the quote, the significance of measuring it by the obstacles one has overcome rather than societal position. They unpack the counterclaim of the quote, the significance of character and status in defining success. The conversation concludes with some essential questions for further discussion, emphasizing the need for a balance between spontaneity and structure in discussions, particularly in educational settings, and reflects on how success can be perceived both internally and externally.

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