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Bill Jones, Everson Walls, Heck Maharrison, and the star of the show, Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4We in the hunt category.
Speaker 3We're not in the outside looking in.
Speaker 4Yeah, we were hovering, okay.
Speaker 5Every week on Fox pregame show.
That Last Bunch has a different name, right, not out of it.
Speaker 4I don't.
Speaker 3I don't consider the Cowboys to be in the wild card hunt, but they are in the division hunt.
Speaker 4You think that's the only chance, That's what I think.
Speaker 2Then they need to put us on the other side, that's right.
Yeah, we don't need to be.
Speaker 3Over there on the far right.
In the other others receiving votes.
Speaker 2We're counting on the collapse of the Super Bowl champs, and.
Speaker 3So far, so good.
They lost three in a row.
All they gotta do is duplicate two years ago.
But didn the Cowboys have to duplicate two years ago too, And that's that's that's an issue it in and out.
Speaker 5So all three wild card teams right now have nine.
Speaker 3Wins something like that.
One might have ten, don't call.
Speaker 5I think the Packers would be.
Speaker 3Packers are the division leader, division.
Speaker 5Leaders, and the Bears are nine and four.
Right the Seahawks are nine and four.
I don't think anybody non division has ten wins.
Okay, eight and five doing off the top of my head.
Speaker 3We'll see if you're right.
Speaker 5And then the two teams in the.
Speaker 3No, the Seahawks have ten wins, the Seahawks.
In the West, Rams are ten and three.
The Seahawks are ten and three, and then the Niners.
Okay, and right now, the Rams they have the tipebreaker and so they are considered the division leader.
The Seahawks they at ten and three, the Niners at nine and four.
And over in the North you've got the Bears at nine and four.
So you've got three teams there.
Two of the wild card teams right now have three more wins than the Cowboys have and there's only four games left, and and then the other one has four more wins than the Cowboys have.
Speaker 5So and if if the well you never know what happens in the in the Bears and the Packers.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's gonna be they play one more times each other.
Speaker 5Problem is three of the other teams that are ahead of them that they've already beaten the Cowboys.
Speaker 4That's the problem right there.
Speaker 3Well, but then again, it's not a problem because the Cowboys have high that's right.
Unless they tie a game, they're not going to be a tie with any other team but the Packers.
Speaker 5So they could be a half game ahead or a half time.
Speaker 3That's why those teams, as we talked about, I think on Monday, those teams have to get to eleven wins to eliminate the Cowboys.
At the Cowboys run the table and get to ten.
Speaker 4So if the Eagles would have tied, that would.
Speaker 3But I definitely think for us right now, I don't I think it would have been about this.
It would been the same the Eagles would have still had to split their last four games, and the Cowboys went all four because the Cowboy We're going to assume that one of the losses that the Eagles would have would be against the Commanders.
We're going to assume that the Raiders are not going to beat the Eagles this week, and and in that case, the Cowboys would have a better division record than the Eagles.
Speaker 4There you go, so so now, but so right now we are still if you're going to look at non divisional, we would be almost tied with.
Speaker 3Detroit, correct, but we're behind Detroit, yeah, right.
Speaker 4Behind half a game behind Detroit, right, but we're not chasing Detroit.
Speaker 3No, because Detroit's not Detroit's not in right now hovering yeah with us, And we aren't even mentioning Carolina is seven and six.
They've got a better record than the Cowboys too.
So I forget the while.
Speaker 4Because I just feel ashamed to say that, just to even say that, what's that Carolina's better than us?
Right now?
They got a better record than us.
That's just hard to fathom.
Speaker 5By one second, that tie, remember thee heard one second.
Speaker 3But keeping this in mind, history tells us that it will be a different division winner this year in the NFC East, because it's been that way all the way since two thousand and four.
We've had a different division winner every year and the Cowboys are the only.
Speaker 4One to the God, so sorry God.
Speaker 2Depending on a trend, absolutely, you know, a.
Speaker 3Twenty year trend of a different division winner every year.
So at some point that comes to an end.
Speaker 4But I don't know why I keep forgetting the Rams because they're playing amazingly at Matthew Stafford's having a great year.
I was looking at his team like he's got two number ones as well and wide receive a position.
Yeah, that's pretty.
Speaker 2Amazing, aging an aging wide receiver and pooking the cool.
Speaker 4He is balling, he is balling.
I wish I could have played against him because I would have to figure out what does he have?
Speaker 3Which one are you talking about?
Staffern the cool?
Speaker 4Cool?
Speaker 3Oh cool cool hook at the cool.
Speaker 4I'd love to play against him just to see how good he is, because I mean, he just makes it look so simple.
Speaker 3Well enough injuries around the league, Okay.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's strong, great runner, just telling that, No, no, that's the one out running.
Speaker 4I don't worry about the strength.
It's the route run.
Speaker 2It's a lot of guys that can't deal with with guys that have strength.
You know, you're trying to play him in the phone booth and and he's bumping you off.
You know, you're trying to bump him off his route.
He bumping you out of your cover.
So that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3Ever soon as your phone ring, because there's enough injuries around the league.
Speaker 4Way going around the corner back down, he told you out of that man, you're only twenty hands.
Speaker 5That's frail, twenty years older than river.
Speaker 4Oh goodness, next day, maybe.
Speaker 3Hey, and you got better mobility.
Speaker 4I should have wont my cap in the T shirt.
That's what I should have.
Speaker 5Then you can restart your try for the Pro Football Hall of Fame all.
Speaker 4Over, right, that would be disappointed?
Speaker 2What disappoint you?
Speaker 6That's a great idea present day, that's right.
Speaker 3Yes, that's a great idea.
Jerry needs sign you just for the last game of the season and it'll start your Hall of Fame clock again, and then.
Speaker 4That would be pretty cool.
Speaker 2Bill.
Speaker 4Before then you get back in the mix, young kid talking to myself.
Oh guys, we just came through it.
I mean the way you see the way his eyes lit up.
That's real stuff, man, that's a great idea.
Great idea, man, Bill had an idea.
Let's go talk to Jared.
Speaker 3All right, shot, do you have a press conference in Hadn't that it yet?
Speaker 5Twelve twenty and the players are on out there yet no one o'clock.
Speaker 3The tarp is off the field.
Speaker 5Yes it is.
Speaker 3So we were prepared for football players on a football field.
Speaker 5The largest days out, sixty degrees.
Can't beat it.
Speaker 3Okay, anything that we need to know if we get started before we hit the rundown, run down.
Speaker 4Before I take that, don't say anything, spags, just say nothing.
Bags run down.
Speaker 5Trying to start on something else.
Speaker 4I thought we were going to go back to yesterday's rundown.
Speaker 2There, you can go to Monday.
You can go to Monday before we can.
Speaker 3Go to last week.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know what I mean?
Hey, just trying to help, Just trying to help, that's all.
That's all.
He's so cute, it's all good.
I'm trying to do.
Speaker 4But they I genuinely, I genuinely look forward to talking about none of this.
That was the statement that Heck Mahasson put under his rundown.
Speaker 3This is Wednesday.
What Wednesday means?
Speaker 5Did he have there that Minnesota's lost for their last five games?
Speaker 2No, you bring that up.
What a great point making.
Speaker 5Wow, I just thought i'd throw that.
Speaker 2Out, you know, before running, before running into Washington.
You want to say who those four losses are against.
Maybe that adds a little bit of rude to that conversation.
Speaker 5Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay, in Seattle.
Oh, they played some teams.
Speaker 2Oh Cupcake.
Speaker 3Prior to that though, they beat Detroit a team the Cowboys loss.
Speaker 2Thigs are getting interesting, But that's something we may need to talk about.
Epicon.
How about that they lost.
Speaker 5To the Chargers.
Speaker 3Prior to that, they lost to the Chargers, right, and they lost to the Eagles.
The Cowboys beat the Eagles.
Speaker 5So they're in the same boat as the Cowboys.
They still have it won two consecutive games, but the weird Cowboys finally did three.
Speaker 4Right, They're really there.
I guess starting quarterback hadn't been It wasn't playing throughout that entire time.
Speaker 3Trick exactly right.
Speaker 4It's just kind of weird.
You don't see You don't see enough McCarthy to really stud him the way you might want to.
I think he played with the first two games.
Speaker 3Well, he played.
He played against Washington this week, okay, thirty one nothing win.
He did not play the week before, which was the Max Brosmer game twenty six to nothing with the ugliest pick six you've ever seen that quarterback throw.
Prior to that, he did play the previous week the Sunday before Thanksgiving in a twenty three to six loss at Green Bay.
And he played against Chicago the previous week of nineteen seventeen.
Loss to Chicago.
Speaker 5Yeah, but he's coming off his best perform with three touchdowns.
That's a scene.
Speaker 3And he played against Baltimore the previous week, so he get three straight weeks.
See, and he played against Detroit, so he had a stretch there.
So early the season opener, he was awful the first three quarters against Chicago and then suddenly in the fourth quarter, who's a great comeback victory proved.
Speaker 2He was a first round draft choice in my evaluation of him.
Man, I'm just telling you, he's a strong on quarterback and he's got a cannon.
He can throw it.
And obviously, like most young quarterbacks, if you get him off his platform making move making him throw on the run, he starts to make mistakes.
That's just his mo right now.
But he does have two very good wide receivers in Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison.
And the secondary struggles that we've had we talked about.
We touched on Savone revel a little bit, but he has to be better in this game because of that matchup and the run Bland.
So anytime y'all want to get into it, man, I'm here for it.
Speaker 5Well, he's got nine touchdowns, ten interceptions mm hm at this point with those receivers, Yeah, and being hurt and the games that y'all were just talking about that he missed.
Speaker 2Carson Wentz came in at the point in the season and was terrible.
I love we had heard ing that's breaking.
He was terrible.
Speaker 4They actually tried to compare this guy to Deck.
Speaker 2Yeah, but it is Justin Jefferson right now.
Obviously.
Man, they're having it a down year offensively, not looking the same as they did in years past.
Speaker 4No targets.
Why aren't they targeting him?
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out.
I mean, he had I think he caught two passes for four yards or something.
I don't understand.
Speaker 2Against against Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay in Seattle.
Those defenses, I mean they were all over him and they didn't give him any quarter, no room.
And that's what I'm saying.
That's the that's the key to victory for me, for Matt eber flus Uh to get pressure up the middle with with our with our ones, with our guys up front.
So that to me is the game plan.
Speaker 4So if you're looking at our secondary versus the wide receivers, I think it's time for for Doran to to really step.
Speaker 5Up time out.
He's had one hundred and nine targets Jefferson.
Wow, so they are targeting him.
Speaker 4Accurate?
Speaker 3Yeah, not a target can still be a target on a pass that's thrown up in the stands right right right.
Speaker 5That's why targets it is ridiculous.
Speaker 4That's still a lot though it is.
And for him to have his figure how many catches does he have?
Speaker 5Sixty four eight ten two touchdowns?
Speaker 2It's a down I mean it's a down year.
If you go down, Yeah, it's a down year, especially if you go back over his career and again, he's still going to be a problem and you know that they're going to raise their level to play.
Speaker 4Every time someone plays against the Cowboys.
So we can look forward to Jefferson having a resurgence, uh for this year.
Speaker 2And I believe it's teaching.
Is it hockey?
Speaker 5Is this?
Speaker 4Yeah?
Speaker 2T was a tight end so good.
Speaker 5Forty six catches, three seventy three touchdowns.
Speaker 2And don't forget about Jones that they're running back.
We know full well about it.
He is this guy, man, he has been a thorn in our side for a number of years.
Speaker 3And and his backup Jordan Mason.
Speaker 2Where's he from?
Where's where's Jones?
Is he from?
Speaker 3Got to use his you tep?
Speaker 2But is he a Texas?
Kida from Texas?
Okay?
Speaker 4Isn't he Jones?
Speaker 7He?
Speaker 2I'm just surprised he was born in Georgia.
Born in Georgia.
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3But he bought have got to Texas as quick as he for sure that he was a Texas well.
Speaker 5Josh Oliver leads him with four touchdown catches.
Their other tight.
Speaker 3End they against Washington.
Are you struggling Commander's defense?
You think the Cowboys defense has been struggled this year.
Speaker 5With all those coaches they took from the.
Speaker 3Struggling first two drives of the game.
The Vikings they go for a touchdown the first drive.
They go ninety eight yards for a touchdown on their second possession of the game, and JJ McCarthy gets back on track, go sixteen out of twenty three in three touchdown passes, no picks against Washington last week.
Speaker 2So he loo liked Marino last week.
Let me say it look good.
Speaker 5And Dan Quinn took over calling the defense too.
Speaker 3And Aaron Jones is from l pass He went to Burgess.
Speaker 5House no half week before the game, a couple a couple of games ago.
I think he took over.
Speaker 4So he took over for thirty one nothing.
Yeah, so lacking.
Speaker 3Yeah, wow, way to go Dan.
Yeah, he took over a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah, two or three weeks ago, and it hadn't helped, not at all.
Jimmy's and Joe's.
Speaker 2Now, don't give him an out.
Don't you get on to give him an out.
N He is out there.
He is sucking right now and it ain't looking good for the Commanders.
And then the quarterback got hurt in that game as well.
He's out again.
Daniels, Jaydan Daniels, is he out again?
Speaker 3He has been okay, No, he came and then I think he did.
Speaker 4He fell on his arm and they said, if I'm not mistaken, that it didn't affect it any more than it was already affected, pretty.
Speaker 3Affected before the way before.
Speaker 5Infected.
Speaker 4He came back.
He came back and it's not worse.
Speaker 3I mean, at the time he Jayden originally injured it, it looked like he had lost his arm.
Speaker 4And then then Mariota, I saw him limping around on the sidelines, didn't I.
Yes, so he is, but he's still there.
Yeah, they starting quarterback at this point.
Correct, Well, I don't.
Speaker 3I haven't talking about yeah, Washington.
Speaker 4Yeah, this game here, guys, it's a tough game.
And I know where you're coming from.
I know where you're coming from.
Heck, because this could be one of those games if we don't come out here.
We come out here with the attitude that we've had.
Let's say, I always worry about that.
That's that team that we had two years ago that was just amazing on offense and defensively.
We got all the turnovers that we needed, but we were not solid in any position, and that's why Green Bay ran overs.
I always feared that attitude coming back into this building this game, and we've been on We've.
Speaker 5Been after they go after they got their asses whipped.
Who in Detroit and come in with that attitude.
Speaker 4Yeah, well, well they didn't let me say this all right that game And I said it yesterday.
I thought that game was the best we could play under those situations.
You talk about how badly our defense played.
To me, it was how well that Detroit offense played.
It's how well they were coached in that game.
That was one of those games where you're not gonna come out of their pretty I've seen Baltimore and Pittsburgh play games together and it turned out to be a high scoring game with great defenses.
This was one of those games.
I don't want us to fall back into twenty twenty three.
Well, we had all the talent, but then we disappointed ourselves.
I want us to play above our heads.
And just because Minnesota has the record that they have, I don't want us taking them lightly.
We need to look at them as Detroit, we need to look at them as Philadelphia, we need to look at them as KC.
That's how this We need to play every game from here on out.
And maybe I'm crazy and I hope I am, but I just don't want that attitude creeping back into this building again.
Speaker 2One of the points that you've been making on the show is about playing on the road and how they perform on the road.
And if hypothetically, you know, God willing you make it to the playoffs, you're going to be playing on the road and pulling out victories versus opponents like Detroit is going to be important in that And that's why even in this game when you talk about not underestimating them, they have a built in component that has always victimized you in Aaron Jones Sr.
And stopping to run is foremost in this game versus Minnesota.
I think it's simplistic, but the truth is if you make them one dimensional, I think Ibra Flus then can go in his bag and start to try and trick a young JJ McCarthy versus them being able to run the ball on you, and now everything on their menu is open.
Speaker 4If we can stop the run, then we can we can bait them into passing it, and that's where we're at our strength.
That's when Deron Blant steps up and makes plays.
That's when our defense steps up and the D line makes sacks, so we have to I like that.
We have to keep them one dimensional, because we have.
If they're successful in both ways, then you're looking.
Speaker 3At what happened in Detroit in the first round of the playoffs.
The Cowboys will be playing at home.
Speaker 2Oh, because you win the division.
Speaker 4That's right.
Speaker 2That's right, Bill, That's right, Bill.
Let's go back to the only way we can.
Speaker 3You're right, you know what, full circle?
Full circle?
But how they play when they played at home against Green Bay and couldn't stop the run with number fourteen playing linebacker.
Speaker 2And you still had a chance to win the game, I mean, and not tie it.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4Uh.
Speaker 3And by the way, but as we go to break here, as producer, Supreme just notified me there's an update on Jaden Daniels in Washington.
No structural setbacks for Daniels, but after medical evaluations, the doctors have advised he not play on Sunday.
He'll be reevaluated next week.
Of course, this does relate to the Cowboys because two weeks from tomorrow.
Two weeks from tomorrow is Christmas Day and the Cowboys will be playing at the Washington Commanders.
Would be interesting to see if Jade and Daniels plays in that game.
The Cowboys are about to start another stretch of three games in twelve days for real.
Yes, because they got it.
They and how they do the first time this game around, They're pretty good.
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Speaker 3Okay, we continue with the mixed shots and and next thing on now you think we and around about fashion we hit Minnesota matchups that matter?
Speaker 2We did?
Speaker 3We did anything else you like to add to Minnesota matchups that matter?
Speaker 4I'll go offensively, man, offensively, how do we match up against their defense?
That I mean we're still averaging what thirty points?
Speaker 3Well, that gets us into that's what I'm glad you brought that up.
Either segment two offensive identity check and how about offensive identity check as it relates to playing against Brian Flora's defense in the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2And I bet I'm sure Shoddy is looking forward to this matchup because Brian Flores has made a mini of offensive coordinator looks bad.
Speaker 3So do you think he's looking forward to it?
Speaker 5Is?
Speaker 3It is a challenge.
Speaker 2What's a chess match?
That's all it is.
And obviously just like us if they make us one dimensional takeaway Devonte Williams and all we have to rely on is And I think the biggest question mark in this and I hadn't heard Mickey say it or not, is Ceedee Lamb playing on Sunday, because that, I believe changes the way that you look at this matchup ever since.
I mean, am I right or wrong?
Speaker 4Yeah?
You're right.
Speaker 5Did Chottenheimer already answer that question?
Speaker 4I'm pretty sure CD's ready to go right.
Speaker 5Opportunity to practice and see suffered today today, so I would imagine he's limited.
But remember when you're in concussion protocol, you got to do something physically exerting and then come back the next day without any ramifications.
Speaker 4So like somebody slap your head like that, don't do that.
Speaker 2You got to go.
Speaker 5You've got to go and.
Speaker 4Practice, right, I mean, you get slapped in there.
Speaker 5They might put pads on today, you never know.
Speaker 2One thing to know about this Minnesota defense is that they are really good in the red zone.
Speaker 5But they have and face the number one offense in the National Football number one passing offense in the National Football League going up against the Rams, the third leading scoring off our team in the.
Speaker 2National Football So what are you saying, Mack.
Speaker 5I'm saying that this season one does have some I mean.
Speaker 4We're going points.
Can we stop them.
Speaker 2From scoring thirty?
Speaker 3Right?
Speaker 4There you go, that's what we're saying.
Speaker 5Or can you get off to a better start, because I've got a list here in the last five games teams.
The Lions got off to a seventeen to six league, the Chiefs seven to nothing, Philadelphia twenty one to nothing, the Raiders three to nothing, Arizona ten to nothing, and even go back another one Denver, when the Cowboys actually scored first with a field goal, ended up trailing fourteen to three.
So if you add all that up, it comes to seventy two to nine outscored at the start of games.
Speaker 3Well, and the reason that the Cowboys scored first against Denver had nothing to do with the offense, That's right.
It had to do with a Trequez Bridges interception on an errant throw from bow Knicks.
And what kept the Cowboys out of the end zone was a false start on the one yard by Tyler geyden I remember that one.
Speaker 2Speaking of Tyler Geydon, Jonathan Allen is probably looking forward to seeing him as well.
Speaker 3When Jonathan Allen, by the way, now in Minnesota Viking for years and years of Washington commander.
Speaker 5You got Gyiton playing then on Sunday.
Speaker 2I don't.
I'm I'm just saying that you have a matchup.
Speaker 5If he is going to play, if it's Nate Thomas.
Speaker 2Well then then go back to last week and go back to last week when we were talking about Dak taking a beating.
As we talk about them being number one and all in that aspect, you have a Minnesota Vikings defense that clearly is going to come out to Dack Oh, whether it's Nate are Tyler Geydon.
Speaker 5And maybe he can still throw for three hundred and seventy six yards.
Speaker 4Yeah, I just don't want to be on the a desperate situation.
Speaker 5Well, just don't fall behind, right, That was much.
Speaker 3That's usually how you pass for three hundred and seventy six yards.
You fall behind right off the bat.
Speaker 2It got to start faster, so meaning score immediately, which is the plan.
That's what he wants not to mention as a defense out there that's trying to kill your quarterback.
So I mean, I'm just going off of what the last performance was and thinking that Brian Flores.
His plan is going to be put a lot of pressure on Dak.
Speaker 5So but that ain't no different than what everybody else planned.
Speaker 4Right, if you control Detroit was a little bit more successful.
Speaker 5Yeah, if you control Dak, you control the Cowboys.
It's pretty pretty simple.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, I guess it is simplistic.
But at the end of the day, every team is scheming up towards that pressure, and when we can't, we don't make any adjustments.
And we've talked about the Detroit game to that degree, like what adjustments were made in that game?
And then you have a Brian Floores defense that's not going to allow you to make a ton of adjustments.
If he's doing things that you haven't you can't even script for because he hadn't even shown you.
That's what we were talking about yesterday.
So look, I just think this is a tremendous challenge.
We talked about not underestimating them.
Let's not underestimate the fact that they have a defense that's gonna pressure you.
Speaker 4They always have been.
Their secondary is good.
The secondary secondary is very good.
Speaker 5The same thing about cousin Steve Right, the Chiefs defense was going to overwhelm the off who was.
Speaker 2Going to cousin Steve.
I was like, who is he talking about?
Okay, I got.
Speaker 4You, and he's clever.
Speaker 5Why were they going to deal with Chris Jones?
Speaker 3You know?
Speaker 5And they did.
They still scored thirty one points.
Speaker 4So I'd rather see our defense control the situation.
Speaker 5Well, absolutely, well, I'd rather see.
Speaker 2And maybe if you.
Speaker 5Win, if you win the toss, take the ball.
Don't just fall behind and then you have to pay.
Speaker 4So have we been winning the toss and giving it up every time?
No?
Speaker 5No, because sometimes the other team is won, they've made the copy take the ball.
But I think when they've had the choice, if I had time, it's it's in here.
They tell what they do if they win the toss that I don't want.
I don't I don't like this thing.
Well, if you defer, then you can get too.
Speaker 4For we don't have a defense.
Speaker 5You can finish the first half with the ball and the second half starts with the ball.
Well okay, but I'm now I'm behind because our defense doesn't play well on opening drives.
Speaker 4They just don't.
Speaker 2So you're already down by seven.
Speaker 5I already I highlighted that.
By the way, hang on, so go back to the Cardinals game.
Their first possession field goal, the Raiders game punt, field goal, field goal, the Eagles touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
These are their first three possessions opponents.
The opponents Chiefs touchdown, touchdown, and then the Lions field goal, punt touchdown.
Speaker 2Let's go.
Speaker 5Yeah, I just wrote the note you know the whole here we go.
Well, they ought to.
Speaker 4Say that before.
They don't say that anymore, no, but they.
Speaker 5Need to say it before the start of the game.
Here we go.
Speaker 3It's time to play.
Speaker 4I like that when they did that.
That was cool.
Speaker 3So any rote, who's your goat?
Speaker 2Are you ready?
Speaker 3I think it's about that time.
Speaker 2You guys are ready for this, all right?
Speaker 3So I am going to Wednesday time for who's yours?
Speaker 4Your goat?
Speaker 2Goat?
All right?
So guys, I'm gonna clip that for me produce a supreme I'm gonna need that at a later.
Speaker 4Date and then you gotta have it.
Speaker 2Well, listen, you guys got to participate online in this as well.
I need to know who's your goat.
So we're going for the third quarterback for who's your goat?
Because that first and second, I think it's going to get real interesting around here.
And ob all right, So your two quarterbacks to decide from is one quarterback that is out of Mesa, Arizona played at Arizona State.
Mickey, you already know who I'm talking about.
What's his name?
Speaker 5He played baseball and his.
Speaker 2Name is Danny White?
All right, And Danny Whites is going up against a quarterback that played in Illinois, Northern Illinois, I believe, played here at the Costolits East.
Excuse me, set a lot of records around here.
One Tony Romo.
This is the third.
This is going for the third quarterback because one and two I believe it's going to be occupied.
Who's your goat, Mickey.
Speaker 5I need a moment to contemplate deep water.
Speaker 2Oh come on now, I told you i'd be transparent.
Speaker 4Oh, it's easy call for me.
Yeah, I think Tony Romo.
Okay, I do ton.
Speaker 5Despite the fact that Danny White took him to three straight NFC title games, I would go with Romo.
Speaker 3Hmmm, I'm studying it.
Speaker 2Wow, you guys really are shocking me right now because I did not believe that you would go with Tony Romeo.
Speaker 5We needed to be honest, and you are.
Speaker 2I mean, I'm just and we're always right sure, sure you are all right?
Come on, Bill, you can't sit you're talking.
Speaker 4Just the numbers thing.
Yeah, I just thought that they had he worked with a lot less than what Tony Hill had to upside with Danny White had to work with.
Speaker 3Okay, once once Danny lost Drew Pearson, which was early on in his time as a starting quarterback.
Three years in eighty three season he lost him.
He was after eighty three.
Speaker 5Drew retired after eighty three, so that was four years, fourth year.
Speaker 3As a starter.
Speaker 2So, guys in the in the chat, it's a lot of white.
So all I see is white, white, white, not a lot of Romo.
Guys, you're on an island right here.
Speaker 4Maybe they don't like his commentating.
Speaker 2You think they may have something to with it?
Did he?
Speaker 4Yeah, but he wasn't like Tony.
Tony can be a little bit overwhelming as far as commentating is concerned.
Wow, a lot of I promise you, a lot of people on there they just know Romo because well, they know him as a player, but they also look at him as this commentator who's a little bit over the top.
Speaker 2Three consecutive NFC NFC championships that does not count for anything when you think about Danny White.
I got Danny, You got Danny.
Okay, well I'm going Danny White also.
Speaker 4So he said you don't count.
Speaker 2I do count.
Now are y'all making me vote?
Speaker 5Come on now this you gotta vote, right, ask the question.
Speaker 2You gotta vote.
So we're split.
I'm gonna chat.
It's up to you.
Speaker 3And here's the one of the problems is when when you even when you look at stats, one of the problems is it's a totally different era for when Romola as opposed to win Danny played, and so interceptions to touchdowns, you can't even compare that, you know, because of the different era.
You know White as an and but ever since point the talent that White had to play with.
But I mean it was a his record as a starting quarterback sixty two wins and thirty losses.
You win two thirds of your games, and I think Romo is like seventy eight and forty nine.
Speaker 5What so what about winning seasons?
Danny White had.
Speaker 3Four Let's see, he was okay, just running through it here, starting in nineteen eighty twelve and four eighty one, eleven and four eighty two was the strike season six and three, eighty three, twelve and four, So there's four straight seasons, and then eighty four was three and three, split with Yeah, eighty five was a winning season, ten and four and that's it.
And then eighty six he was four and two before getting hurt at age thirty four.
Speaker 2Guys, I think according to the chat, we're gonna let them figure out the deciding vote.
Speaker 3And the only season with a losing record for Danny White as a starting quarterback was nineteen eighty seven at three and six.
The only season with a losing record.
Speaker 2Yeah, Danny White gets the vote, so he's he's the third quarterback there, guys, So that was good.
Speaker 4Wait, you just ignored that way.
Speaker 2I didn't ignore them, he said.
Speaker 5The people online got through the.
Speaker 3Try see here it was it was you two voted, Romo us too voted.
Why so the deciding vote was right there.
Speaker 2I mean, kick shots, man got a lot of people listening.
Man.
Speaker 3You asked about winning seasons.
Speaker 5Did Romo ever have a losing season that he didn't get hurt?
Speaker 3He let's see he is.
Losing seasons were one in five and twenty ten.
Obviously got hurt that year, eight and eight, eight and eight, eight and seven, eleven, twelve and thirteen.
Those are not losing seasons, but they're close, and then twelve and three and twenty fourteen, and then he got hurt in twenty fifteen and the three to one, So basically it's a good question, all right, ten win seasons.
Romo in twenty fourteen went twelve and three, nine, eleven and five, seven, thirteen and three, and for White it was twelve and four, eleven and four, twelve and fourteen, and he had four seasons with ten or more wins, and Romo had three with ten or more wins.
All right, that's a very good debate, very good.
Speaker 5And too bad for eighty six because when he got hurt, they were six and two going into that Giants.
Speaker 3Game, and that's when the season got eighty six.
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Speaker 3Okay, all right, we have breaking news from Ryan Schottenheimer's press conference.
This applied to us by Tommy Yarish.
Here are the updates.
Offensive tackle Tyler Guiton is making progress.
Speaker 5That means he's not not playing, Okay, Okay, so Mickey will translate.
Speaker 3Mickey will translate all of these.
Tyler making progress.
So Mickey says, not playing.
Wide receiver Ceedee Lamb is progressing nicely and has one or two more things left to clear concussion protocol.
Speaker 5So if we got to find out if he practiced today or not.
If he didn't practice, then he's got two days to clear those two hurdles.
Speaker 3And you said, you're saying that past tense like they've already practiced today.
Speaker 5Well, no, we're gonna go see.
Speaker 3Okay, So when they have practice today, we'll see if he's out there, then Mickey will update you on.
Speaker 2Twitter what he's doing.
Speaker 3Corner bread cornerback Cravon Diggs is still in a ramp up period.
Speaker 2Quote.
Speaker 3Ultimately, he's got to show us he's ready to do everything the right way.
Speaker 2All right, go ahead, and there you go ahead, and.
Speaker 5That means he's highly questionable this week, not questionable, highly questionable.
Speaker 3Does that mean this week or next week?
Speaker 5Also maybe for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3Okay, Defensive end Jadavion Clowney is expected to return to practice today and in all in, so there you go.
There are your injury updates.
So you're thinking CD if you were to put.
Speaker 5A status maybe on it.
Speaker 3Okay, possibly plays Sunday or is it more probably possibly Clowney place for sure, and you've got guiding and digs out.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5Concussions are now I'm not using this as an example, but the guy for the Stars do Shane It was the first week of the season.
He suffered a concussion.
He just played the other day.
Now, I don't know if there was something else going on that was more because it's an upper body injury in the hockey lexicon, but those those n.
Speaker 3A lexicon.
Speaker 2He's flexing his hockey knowledge right now.
Speaker 5I like it, But concussions.
Concussions are different.
I had a retort, but I bit by.
Speaker 2Yes, wow, all right, start using that word a lexicon.
I don't know when aware I'll be able to use that.
But uh, don't even know.
Speaker 5Why hockey gets away with that upper body, lower body.
That's all you get.
Speaker 2Mm hm.
Well, at this point, if CD isn't able to play, where's your confidence level in this game?
If he doesn't play from you know what you've seen from Florid, NOI confidence level, Mick.
Speaker 5What do the Vikings do against the run?
Speaker 2What do they do against the run?
Speaker 3They're pretty They're good.
Speaker 2Yeah, they're pretty good.
Speaker 5I still think they it's all hands on deck.
Yes, I think they still have an opportunity.
I still had they won without them before, didn't they they have Okay, yeah, and we.
Speaker 4Can run the ball on I still think we can run the ball on most.
Speaker 5Anyway, here we go, Yeah, do you Liuys Williams.
I just figured this out.
He's on pace for like thirteen hundred yards rushing.
I know it's seventeen games, so we got to put an asterisk in there.
Speaker 2He started out at fifteen, but.
Speaker 5He's got if he if he factors out weighs at now with onenty twenty two, it factors out to thirteen thirty something, he would be twenty one yards short of having the fourth most rushing touchdowns in a season in twenty five years.
Speaker 3All right, let me add to that, betch, we've out of time here.
How valuable has he been to this Cowboys team?
Think about where this team would be at running back without him?
Speaker 4Yep, yeah?
Speaker 5Or think about what people thought where they were with him when they started the season.
Williams, Sanders, Deuce, Vaughan, Hunter, Lipke, Marfa and Blue.
That's what they went to training camp.
Speaker 2But before we go, you gave a stat the other day about thousand yard rushes the Cowboys have had and has it been ten straight?
Has it been ten straight years?
Ten out of twelve, ten out of straight, ten out of twelve years that the Cowboys have had a thousand yard Russia?
So does having a thousand yard Russia equate the way that they used to back in the day when you were a thousand yard rusher, I mean you're King of the Hill.
Speaker 4I don't think it.
Speaker 2Does well, not anymore.
Speaker 5I mean now you've got an extra game, right, So that takes away from the day when everybody talked about thousand yard rushers.
It was fourteen games.
Speaker 4And we ran the ball all the time.
You didn't hardly throw the ball at that time.
Speaker 5Yeah, no one's thrown the ball.
Speaker 4Yeah, that was a whole different kind of game at that time.
Speaker 3You know what a thousand yards is Over seventeen game season, it's fifty eight point eight yards a game.
Ball in fifty nine yards a game.
Speaker 5I think over sixteen it was like seventy.
Speaker 4Let's be clear, what Javante has done for us this year has given us balance on offense that doesn't have the year that he's having unless we're running the ball well.
Our play action is our strength.
That looks really good when he does it.
He knows that it's his strength.
And when when they come with the play action, you can just tell even this body language is more positive because it's the blocking is better, he's stepping up better and he's delivering better passes.
So without Javonte and without this running game, I don't think we have the success that we would have.
Speaker 5And he's run for nine touchdowns first of all things.
Speaker 6Here, okay, the last time Vicky will have that for tomorrow.
We're out of time on this edition of Mixed Shots, and how about we do it again tomorrow at high noon.
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