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Speaker 5Hello Nate, how you guys doing just great to see you.
Welcome back to your show.
Uh hema, Harrison, glad to have you.
Speaker 6Well, I'm gonna conduct this like our phone calls.
Speaker 5Man, this is what this isin't gonna be a Podcast's gonna be a phone call between me and you.
Speaker 6How about that.
We're going to include the other guy.
Yeah it is.
Speaker 7Oh, I could leave now we'll missions.
Speaker 1Like where it's like the old party line.
Speaker 6Yeah, so y'all have a lot.
Speaker 1If you heard of a party line, heck ma, yeah back in the day.
Speaker 7Did you ever have to use one?
Speaker 6Yeah?
No, say, your mom and dad knew what she was doing all the time.
Speaker 8They know that I was going to sneak out today the party line, Missus Johnson said, Yeah, our party line was me and Bill and Mickey lived in the same neighborhood on the same street.
Speaker 6I can pick up the and listen to Mickey's conversation.
Speaker 1Like if Mickey and Bill are talking, Yeah, okay, there's only like one loan line, yeah, for the whole neighborhood.
Speaker 7Yeah you know, yeah, and you would get on the line and go, uh, mister Barwick, this is an emergency.
Speaker 1Can you hang up.
Speaker 6Just for a minute.
Speaker 5Tough times guys, everybody knew everybody's business, is that right?
Speaker 6Yikes?
Speaker 1And yeah, and you didn't know if someone was listening and.
Speaker 5Not hey quit breathing on hear you?
Nah?
I never experienced that, guys, that's doing our government doing it.
Speaker 6No more about.
Speaker 7Or the days of just one phone in the house.
Speaker 6Yes, that was a terrible thing.
Speaker 7Ours was in the kitchen.
Yeah, I remember one time and it probably was the only time.
Some girl calls me right, and it was like, there was the most embarrassing thing ever have to talk on the phone in front.
Speaker 1Of the whole family.
Speaker 7Yes, yeah, no, well maybe hang up?
Speaker 1Well who was that?
Speaker 6Just somebody?
Speaker 1Okay, enough enough about Mickey's love life.
Speaker 6It's not that was the extent of it.
Speaker 5And then he married her.
Come on, man, that's what happened.
It's high school sweethearts?
Speaker 7Ever said it didn't happen?
Speaker 6All right?
Speaker 1Uh, so we're getting ready for a football game.
Yes, the show goes on.
Speaker 5Though.
Speaker 1I watched a football game last night, and I think I found a past defense as bad as the Cowboys passed.
Speaker 6Oh please tell me college game?
Speaker 1Did the Indianapolis Colts last?
Unbelievable?
Speaker 5But that didn't They didn't show up last night.
That was what a disappointment for them.
I mean, and think about how hot that team started and the colossal collapse that they've experienced.
Speaker 1Live streat loss and they lose a quarterback.
Who's your quarterback?
Speaker 5I mean, that's a part of it.
I mean, but Philip Rivers was a guy that I out.
I'm like, man, Philip, why are you doing this to yourself?
Don't come on now, Stavid.
He absolutely he played pretty decent last night.
Again, Yeah, he's probably sore for the next three days after a game like that.
Speaker 1So they're virtually eliminated.
They're not totally eliminated.
Speaker 6So five percent chance?
What chance?
Hang the hopes on five percent?
Speaker 1You can't go home yet.
Speaker 7No, he's still got to finish the season.
And that was the last shoot to fall for the Chargers to clinch a wild card boards.
Speaker 1Okay, because the bunch of teams clinched because the Colts lost lost.
Speaker 5Yeah, well, you guys, I didn't hear it yesterday.
Were your impressions of the chargement.
Speaker 1And we need to get your impressions.
Speaker 6Hey, did you guys?
Did you guys impressed by that?
Speaker 1Mickey Nicky asked the question yesterday which we did not answer because we started on a tangent.
On another stage that Nicky asked, was that the best team the Cowboys have faced this year the Chargers, and I would put the Broncos up there because a team we could argue that.
Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, no, I did.
Speaker 5I said this is the best team because not because they had better athletes, but because they're disciplined and they have a game plan and they don't get off of it for nobody.
So you face one of the I think they have four penalties for maybe thirty eight yards or something like that.
This is a very disciplined team, well coach team, they know what they want to do.
So yeah, I would say this far as overall team on unity consistency.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think this is especially especially considering what they're missing on their offensive line and what they've been missing all season on their offensive line virtually all season.
For sure, left tackle they've been missing him all year later, but also they right tackle Joe Alt since the sixty games.
Speaker 5I think it's a game where you're saying to yourself, like, we don't have a legitimate shot.
From the beginning of the game to the end of it didn't look like you were ever in that game.
It's familiar with nothing.
I mean, yeah, I did, but at the same time, it ain't got on the feel yet.
So I'm just saying when in the game versus the Broncos, it never felt like to me like the Broncos are one of those physical teams, the brand that they played defensively, they just kind of shut you out.
And I felt the same way about the Chargers.
So I mean, I think this neck and neck as far as the performance from two dominant teams.
Speaker 7I think the Chargers have the better quarterback.
I mean the Chargers over the bronxnvers.
Speaker 5Oh yes, yes, yes, this kid is still learning from Denver.
Right, I'm gonna tell you something, but both coaches are hard on their quarterbacks.
They gonna learn, need to learn to get out they you know, they ain't gonna hold on to you.
So the other kid is younger, both knicks, both knicks, but he's not a better pure pastor and her Herbert Herbert got Yeah, Herber's got arm and he's been showing that.
Everybody's noted that his his toughness is on display because he's playing with that broken hand.
And you saw a couple of times you know, he took it, took a hit, and I'm like, he's out, He's gone, and then he stood right up, went right back to the huddle and did it all over again.
Speaker 7Which is what he did the week before.
Speaker 1Okay, enough about the other team.
Yes, heck, well what since we didn't have you here yesterday you were on assignment, what were your impressions of the weekend in general?
Where Cowboys get knocked out on on Saturday night?
Speaker 5And then with well, we talked so much all week about ibra Flus moving up to the press box and what difference that would make, and it was it was pretty early that he wasn't going to make a difference at all.
Defensively, you just didn't have anything of note to stop them the past.
As far as our secondary it's concerned, whether it's or digs, you could just tell man, especially when the number thirty four is in the game, they are going to go right at him and whatever they're picking up on film from him.
Herbert made it a point to make sure that when he had a guy in the open field, he was going to targets of own revel.
Defensively, whatever scheme has been played all season, these guys have never gotten the gist of it.
Diggs obviously, even with his time off, still hadn't got the just of we see him seeing him gamble on one play and give up a touchdown.
Man, I'm beyond the point of being embarrassed.
You know, it didn't embarrass me anymore.
It's just that, Hey, we just don't have anything in our secondary of note that can stop anyone, and we're not presenting enough pressure.
And that's another thing that we had talked about also all week, is the pressure.
You knew coming in that this Chargers team, they were giving up a ton of sacks and the fact that we couldn't get We got close once I think Kenny Clark, but that was on the line of scrimmage so it didn't count as a sack.
But we just didn't We didn't pressure him at all, and it was pretty apparent early in the game that Herbert was going to have his way.
By the way was that they did pressure him, but they just couldn't get there, right, you see that.
That's what I'm telling people.
They blocked us up.
I saw one time where fifty nine broke loose.
He just didn't closed the deal.
They pressured but guys.
Speaker 1Just you know the other thing they did.
Speaker 7They blitzed.
Speaker 6Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
And they didn't get there.
They didn't get there.
Speaker 7Bru It goes back to what I said last week.
You can blitz, but if you don't know how to blitz, it doesn't do any good.
Speaker 6It's fellas.
Speaker 7How many Pro bowlers do the Cowboys have.
Speaker 6Defense?
Oh?
One?
Two?
And he didn't plum.
Speaker 7Yeah, So you can tell me all about scheme.
You can tell me about who playing in the secondary.
They don't have the players to play whatever scheme you want to play.
I'm so tired of hearing scheme?
Right, what are you scheming up front?
How many schemes can you have in your front to get through the quarterback?
You can blitz, but if you can't get there, that scheme not working.
You can play zone.
Well, if you can't play zone, that ain't working.
And if you can't play man, then what do you do?
Speaker 6And but wait a minute, though, Mick, you can't give these guys an outline.
Speaker 7I'm not giving them out I'm not good enough.
It worked out now, that's okay, little emotion, Okay, where the.
Speaker 6Chargers not better offensive line wise?
Speaker 7The whole team.
Speaker 5Okay, I'm just talking about the trench.
I'm going to talk about if you don't talk about sending the blitz and not being able to get home and not finishing the deal.
Guys like Osa Diggie Zool, guys like Solomon Thomas, Jadavian Clowney who you've talked about.
Also, these guys get paid to do what they do, and so the fact that they couldn't get home, the fact that they couldn't get any pressure Mick to me is the bigger problem.
I mean, if it's a t stunt whatever, you're sending guys not being able to get home and a quarterback that could just step up in the pocket and still deliver to me whatever that scheme is, you're.
Speaker 6Saying that you got to give the charges credit where credit is due.
Speaker 5They didn't allow you to get home, they didn't allow you to get to their quarterback.
But that doesn't negate the fact that these guys are professionally they should be doing their job.
Speaker 7Well, if you're not good enough to do the job, how good of a job.
Speaker 5We're going week to week by saying now that they're not good enough, because Quinn.
Speaker 7Willis good enough against that team.
Speaker 6Okay, the Chargers were better.
Speaker 5Okay, but the Chargers is a team that we already know that have been giving up sacks.
So it's not like they came into at and tea.
So with this record of not giving up sacks, this guy has been getting slacked every week.
Speaker 1I think it's married together with what you have in the secondary.
And what I look at is what the boys are trotting out there at cornerback has not been up to snuff.
And you have when the offense has answers where a cornerback can't stay with a receiver and he's getting and so the quarterback's getting the ball out quicker, it's tougher to get to the quarterback.
And I brought up Indianapolis, who now they had the thirtieth ranked pass defense in the league coming into last night's game, and now they're thirty first after giving up whatever they gave up to San Francisco.
But they're trotting out there Makai Blackman, Jonathan Edwards, Kenny Moore, and Cameron Mitchell.
There was a reason that they traded for Sauce Gardner earlier in the year because they didn't have anything at cornerback, and they've got the thirty first ranked pass defense in the league.
Sauce Gardner got hurt early on, so he hadn't been able to help them, and I think that's what the Cowboys have been doing at cornerback.
We saw by virtue of the news that broke late last week, Deron Bland going on injured reserve with his foot.
He missed the second and third game of this season with that same foot injury.
Clearly he's been dealing with a foot problem the entire season.
He hasn't been the same player that made the Pro Bowl in years past.
Trayvon Diggs hasn't been out on the football field.
He was there for the first six games, wasn't up to snuff health wise, and then was out for the last eight games.
And he's clearly not the same Trayvon Diggs that earned his big contract when we saw what we saw on Sunday, and otherwise, you got the Cowboys equivalent of Jonathan Edwards and Cameron Mitchell and these guys out there.
And so it's more difficult for a defensive line to get to the quarterback when there's answers for the offense in the secondary and I think that's that's what ibra Flus and this defense has been dealing with all season long.
What did you say?
Speaker 7They were thirty first?
Speaker 1Culture thirty first and past who's the cowboys of thirty second?
Have been all year basically, So anyway, it's I think it's all married together.
And obviously there's things that have to happen with this defense.
Speaker 5I mean, I guess my thing is is that we're going to whatever the scape go is going to be.
Evin Flus is going to be whatever it's going to be.
The guys that are out here that are getting paid to play that can't get to the quarterback, can't present any pressure, or when they do, they can't seal the deal.
And you have a quarterback that can step up in the pocket and do his thing.
We don't turn around and talk about the Osil Diggie Zewis.
We don't talk about the Solomon Thomas's.
We don't talk about the guys that are being paid to do their job that can't get it done.
We don't talk about the linebackers.
We put all of the blame specifically on the coordinator and say, oh, it's because the guys on the back end are too bad and they can't they can't hold long enough for a pass is not to be completed.
Speaker 6Okay, all right, Well.
Speaker 1I'm not so rich, and I'm not saying that there's not other factors, but I think I think what I heard in this conversation going at the beginning was we can't get to the quarterback.
And all I was presenting was one of the big reasons you can't get to the quarterback is because you're not covering anybody in the secondary.
Speaker 5So anyway, you know, Fellas, and I challenge you this young man, did we did we not see this same thing in training camp?
Speaker 6You wasn't there?
Did you not?
Speaker 5Did you not hear me come to you every day and say, oh, Fellas, we're in trouble.
And when you got Quinn Williams, who brings constant pressure, it allows Clark.
Speaker 6To be who to be who he is.
Speaker 5Quinn Williams left out part way through our the last game before this one and no sacks.
Then we went back to who we were Fellas without Quinny Williams, who went back to who we were.
You know, this Parryon guy or whoever else, these are just guys.
And yes, we play, we pay guys to do certain things, and we pay.
Speaker 6But fellas, I challenge you.
Speaker 5When we get out of this season and everybody that goes to training camp, quit living in your bubble and start assessing players correctly, not because they have that big star on the helmet.
Start assessing players versus other players in the league.
Don't call me and tell me, hey, man, I started a film with the Cowboys in training camp.
No no, no, get you all twenty two and go to California and watch the Rams.
Speaker 6Get you all twenty two and go see Seattle.
I'm serious.
Speaker 5We let a guy get out of here.
I think he made the Pro Bowl of Seattle that used to play for us.
Why And I'm gonna tell you why.
This guy made it because he had two or three other dogs over there and it freed him up to one on one situations.
Last week we didn't have the one on one situations.
Clowney had to deal with something different.
This guy had to deal with something different depending on what the.
Speaker 6Past protection was.
Speaker 5So it is a team loss.
It is a bad defense all together.
Speaker 6And whoever you.
Speaker 5Want in a losing situation, you're not wrong.
Mickey's not wrong, and Bill's not wrong.
Everybody can pick something.
Speaker 6I can.
I can pick something.
Speaker 5I just choose to pick on the whole team defensively, because everybody had a bad turn on that day yet of the game, everybody.
And you can even go back to the Minnesota game.
Yes, you can go back to the Minnesota game when you didn't get pressure against JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6It's a it's a.
Speaker 5Theme, and whether it's Quinn Williams in the game or not, it's still the same thing continuously repeating itself.
Speaker 6How in the yards did these quarterbacks get?
How many?
The thing that.
Speaker 5Quarterbacks come in here and do to us is not just passed, but a lot of them just take off running.
You know, they take off runs.
You know that ain't small yardage for a quarterback.
That's not small yardage for a quarterback.
Speaker 6You know.
I tell everybody's right here.
Speaker 5You need an overall fix for your defense, and we can each I feel so bad for Revel because he was part of Here comes the cavary.
I feel so bad for overshown.
Here comes a part of the cavalry.
You know, even Quinny william you know his come to cavalry, brothers.
It ain't no cavalry this year.
Is get through this year and do something about it this off season.
Don't talk about it, don't wait till the eighth week of free agents.
Say hey man, we're gonna go get Noon off the bench.
Now he's around ten thousand dollars, we can pay.
Speaker 6Him a game.
Speaker 5No, go out and compete and get some players in here.
But we're lacking player.
Speaker 1That's great perspective.
Brian Schottenheimer had a press conference yesterday and he's asked about all these things.
Whatever he had, there were three words he said that I thought were the most significant words of the press conference.
And those words were, it's year one.
Speaker 6Yes.
Speaker 1For all of us, it's year thirty, yeah, okay.
For Dak Prescott it's year ten, okay.
But for Schottenheimer it's year one.
And you know, coming off a season last year where they went seven and ten thirty, first in the league in points allowed, it's it was a process to putting this together.
You're and then you went the entire off season with Michael Parsons on this team.
It's the week one of the season.
You're making that trade.
And to think that this defense was going to be fixed where they could make a deep playoff run was foolish because it wasn't gonna happen this year.
This is year one.
Now the clock ticks.
Speaker 6I tried.
That's been my deal.
Speaker 1No one wants to admit it.
To rebuild.
Yeah, it's been a rebuild here.
Speaker 5That's been my deal since training camp.
And I'm gonna say it again before we go to this break.
I challenge each and every one of y'all stop looking at the Star, start looking at other players on other teams, and see what a All Pro look like.
Not a Pro Bowl because they messed up the Pro Bowl this year.
They messed that all up.
Look at the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 7The all we need to talk about that?
Speaker 6Well, yeah, look at the All pros on other teams.
Speaker 5How did you know about Quinny Williams on a losing team.
Speaker 6Like the Jets?
You knew about him?
You know why?
Speaker 5Because he's a different level.
That is what you want to judge your players off of.
Don't judge your players off flow or no.
Speaker 6Come on, brouh Floord.
Speaker 5Not beat somebody deep in our camp and come on now we get into arguments amongst each other because we want to miss assess our talent.
Speaker 6Don't miss assess the talent.
Speaker 5If you keep the talent in this right place, you won't be judging the coach so hard.
Because this man thought he had an all world defensive end and two healthy corners when he started, and when this season started, it all went to hell.
Speaker 7Oh he thought he had two Pro Bowl defensive ends.
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Speaker 1All right, very good, Mickey, you got the Pro Bowl list there?
What Cowboys made the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 7I will tell you which Cowboys made the Pro Bowl.
In the NFC Dak Prescott, George Pickens his first with career high numbers with two games to go, Tyler Smith his third straight year.
And if I turn over to defense, Quinn Williams and then Brandon Aubury.
Speaker 1Okay, so five Cowboys make the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6Awesome?
Speaker 7And then I don't think we can sit here and say, oh, who didn't get a vote that should have in the defense, right?
Speaker 1I don't think so.
No, the two former Cowboys defensive players as you alluded to, did make the Pro Bowl, and those are pass rushers Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 7The fifth time in Seattle, the people do.
Speaker 1We loved Lawrence here?
Yeah, and his.
Speaker 7Parting shot might have been accurate that everybody got upset with.
Speaker 5M How do you think about that?
You know what, let's sell something.
I don't care when you lead the Cowboys.
I don't care.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 6I watch great players because that's who great players are.
Speaker 5Who you break your team down on.
Speaker 6Comments.
I really don't care.
Speaker 5You know, a bunch of comments because yeah, we got a right to field how they want to feel.
You just hate when they come true.
Speaker 7Well, I'm gonna say this because we talked about it after the NFL.
NFL dot Com with their Player of Preseason voting top one hundred, Dak Prescott was seventy ninth.
Yeah, he was fifteen out of sixteen quarterbacks and he's in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Other quarterbacks are Matthew Stafford, Sam Darnold, and Dak Prescott.
In the NFC and in the AFC, the quarterbacks are Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, the aforementioned Justin Herbert, and Drake May.
There are your Pro Bowl quarterbacks.
Speaker 6What a season by Drake May?
I said, what a season by Drake May?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 6I got that.
Speaker 5They were asking the Patriots to give up on this kid, and what a season.
Speaker 7Well, same things happening in Carolina.
Yeah, everybody was all over Bryce Young.
Speaker 6And Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5And the thing that I know for sure, and it becomes more and more truer, is get rid of some of these bad quarterback coaches and these bad offensive coordinators who just have systems that don't nurture a kid and don't bring him over the right way.
Because your first year coming out of college, you know what this kid can throw well, and what he can't throw well.
You know the things he needed to work on, and if you're forcing him in there, you got to give him more what he used to and slowly bring him along, you know.
And I just believe it.
I've been saying for years and years.
I don't think I think eighty percent of the guys that come out that can throw.
I'm about that can throw, there's nothing wrong with them unless they don't have it mentally.
Now you can don't have it mentally, but most of these kids got it mentally.
And I think it's bad coordinators and bad UH coach as far as with quarterback, well, and I really believe that.
Speaker 1So look at a handful of them right now, Ben Johnson and Shinago, what he's done with Caleb Williams this year, Dave Canalis at Carolina, the head coach there, who is at Tampa Bay and turned around Baker Maythan his career there, and what he's done with Bryce Young, Liam Cohen, who came up in the McVeigh system with the Rams and was at Tampa Bay last year, and what he's done just in the course of this season with Trevor Lawrence and the way Trevor Lawrence is playing right now, and of course obviously what Sean Payton has done with bow Nicks in Denver, just.
Speaker 7And right there Johnson would golf too.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, prior to that, Ams gave up on him.
Speaker 6The thing is, all you need.
Speaker 5From your quarter back is a willingness to study, to spend time, you know.
And I think that is one of the things where a lot of head coaches and coordinators mess up at is when they interviewing these kids and they see all this talent, they don't enforce their will, Like, hey, Mick, if I draft you number one and you and my quarterback, are you willing to commit sixty seventy hours a week?
To what we're trying to do.
I'm gonna look you right in your face because you have to be Remember the guy used to be the Raiders when it got into the truble.
The head coach with the Raiders, I can't think of John Grew.
That was one of his things.
You know, it's a rule that we have gotten away from.
Speaker 6As scouts as coaches.
Speaker 5I need three years of you actually playing football on a competitive level in college.
Speaker 6Now it's dropped down to two.
Speaker 5Uh for the for the coaches, we need to see you play twelve games a year to know that you have least seen competition.
Guys popping up by the one year and you forced to come up here and deal with multiple defensive fronts with great super talent.
That's too much for a kid, and you're not willing to put your butt on the line.
Instead of you telling your owner, hey, sir, come on now, oh you gim come on, man, what we're finna do to this kid?
Speaker 6See?
Speaker 7And the lesson right here right If Troy Apen wasn't so stubborn right to survive those first two years and then all of a sudden, why did it click in the third year?
North Turner, Yes, this makes a difference.
Speaker 6Makes a difference.
Speaker 5I think the point that you're just making out for some reason, Baker Mayfield just popped in my mind as a quarterback that obviously came in had some success but also had his struggles, and how he's been able to turn it around and Tampa and I think when you were just listing out Pro Bowl, I just was thinking about Dak too.
Dak and the success that he's had this season, and how he and Shoddy, that marriage between those two.
It's unfortunate forty one hundred yards this season, two one thousand yard receivers in a thousand yard running back to not be able to play in the postseason.
But we've seen this before.
Not to bring up the old stuff, but just seeing seeing that marriage between those two, and how Dak has been so productive this year when he's had those years when he's been injured, he hadn't had his best productive season.
I'm the one thing that I think looking into the future for me is you know, with aging quarterbacks, the decline doesn't come like it happens in overnight.
It was like and right now this season I think I felt like I'm seeing Dak play his best ball I've seen him play his best ball.
How do you how do you carry that over into next season and grow from what your quarterback has done before that actual decline happens to him.
And you've seen him with a ton of great quarterback.
Offensive line, offensive line, offensive offensive line that it ain't but one answer, that's offensive line.
Dak has played with one receiver for the majority of his life and a half a tight end.
Get him offensive line.
Now that you have two great receivers, a better than average tight end and a solid running back, get him an offensive line and you will slow down everything you're talking about.
Speaker 6Don't get him that offensive line.
Speaker 5He can't keep dodging the way he dodged this year because now it's catching up with him at the end of the season.
Speaker 7So did you like the move of Tyler Smith to left tackle?
And we talked about it a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 5And I debated with everybody.
I see both ends, but you better find out and get you a base.
We don't have a base.
And what I mean by that, we don't have a left tackle.
The left tackle, me and him has talked about this on air.
You can tell the difference when number seventy one for the forty nine ers is in there, and when he's not, because when you got that left tackle for some reason, are a very dominating center.
Speaker 6For some reason, everybody plays well, we need.
Speaker 5A left tackle that can fortify that side so your quarterback who is right handed, don't have to th worry about it.
Speaker 6Is this kid it we.
Speaker 5Know he's an All Pro pro bowler left guard.
Well, this coach see enough at left tackle to say that's our man, and we're gonna live and die with this guy.
Speaker 6Are He'll be back at left tackle.
Speaker 5And we're gonna have to if we're gonna do what you say, slow down to decline, you got to invest in another offense lineman, free agent, our draft pick, and it can be an eighteenth pick.
I mean, and you know, eighteenth round.
It got to be a dog.
How many All Pro guards have you seen make the transition to be an All Pro or pro Blarry Allen Larry An there it is.
That's the difference.
Speaker 1We talked about it yesterday, Nate.
In nineteen ninety for those of you who missed the show, like Hekma yesterday, Nate, Nate said that Jimmy came to him after the nineteen eighty nine season, said he wants to play.
He's decided he's gonna to play his best five offensive linemen.
He went to Nate and said, we're going to move you to right tackle.
Nate said, but coach, I'm six one.
Did you say they the way you know you play it to go home?
Did you play right tackle?
You get cut?
So he played right tackle and he started sixteen games in nineteen ninety at right tackle.
They drafted Eric Williams in the second round in nineteen ninety one out of Central State and Ohio, and Nate still started at right tackle for sixteen games in ninety one while Eric Williams learned how to play in the NFL and then he moved back into Garden went to six Pro Bowls.
Nate did, and Eric Williams became a Pro Bowl right tackle.
Speaker 6So there you go, he said, the right man, though I mean about I'm just.
Speaker 1But there is one beyond Larry Larry Allen.
Speaker 5Come on, man, this guy here man, now, how about how telling about Larry Allen moved from all all Pro guard out the All Pro left tackle over the all Pro right guard.
I'll moved from a possible All Pro left guard out to a survival technic.
Speaker 6Right a difference, bro, how about.
Speaker 7How about this move too, when you're talking about changing positions.
Mark Tuine who's from defensive tackle to the left tackle and finally got a Pro Bowl towards the end of it.
Speaker 1By the way, Nate Newton his six Pro Bowls, he didn't just start six games in any of those seasons and make the Pro Bowl real like one of the guys that made the Pro Bowl this year.
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Speaker 1All right, Mickey Spagnola, what do we need to know coming out of yesterday's press conference?
Availabilities Ryan Flinoy.
Big news yesterday was Ryan Flinoy.
Yes, his knee injury is not considered.
It's not a major one.
Speaker 7It's not a ligaments.
Speaker 1Yeah, Brain and coach had high praise for ILLINOI.
Speaker 7Well, I think we can just kind of say he's the number three wide receiver right now.
Speaker 6Oh man, I gave up on Jaylen Tober just like that.
Huh?
Speaker 7And who else?
Who elseize that kid started the training camp as the sixth or seventh in line at wide receiver.
Speaker 6Got cut?
Speaker 7Got cut?
Speaker 5Let me let me send out a news flash.
Okay for all y'all, that's finna get Flinoy is our third receiver he's not CD and he's not George Pickings.
Stop stop right now.
Okay, he's our third receiver.
We found a third receiver.
Oh you don't want to hear about it.
We make superstars.
I'm telling you.
I'm trying to stop it.
Speaker 1And what you're saying, there's business to take care of to secure the second receiver.
Thank you?
Speaker 6So stop, hey man, he can do it.
Stop before you even start.
He cannot do what George Picks do.
Stop.
Speaker 7No one suggested that here, not here.
Speaker 5I gotta get it out now.
I got to get it out now.
It doesn't matter with you preempt what is it?
No, you're not okay, he knows coming.
And you the Pickings man, you gotta been I'm just listening.
You should have been saying, man, better get the picture.
Speaker 6Click?
Thank you?
Speaker 7Do you get anything starts in three minutes?
Speaker 1Oh wow, okay, you need to get somewhere.
Speaker 7Uh no, No, Dak Prescott starting on Christmas.
Speaker 1Day breaking news right okay?
Speaker 7I think uh Marvi and overshown and guiding her out.
Okay, and all the limited guys have a chance.
Speaker 6Is Quinn Quinn gonna be available?
No?
Speaker 7No, I don't think so.
No, no too short of a week.
Speaker 5We're gonna find out if all these other people that a what is they parafew and all of these.
Speaker 6Very few.
Speaker 1Don't call him sooner?
Speaker 6Come on, because he's made very few plays, very few.
Speaker 7And James Houston has kind of disappeared.
Speaker 13Yeah, okay, y'all very few, Yeah, he made very few play.
Speaker 6Come on, y'all pictures click?
Speaker 1Are you playing the game?
Speaker 5No, sir, I'm gonna stay out of I can't even pronounce the names.
Speaker 1Everson didn't send in his ever sing.
Speaker 6Has got other things that deal.
Speaker 1He's a little ill.
Speaker 5He's holding on my streat you better shake back ever get casts.
Speaker 1Everson is old school?
What Everson is the pick to sick?
Speaker 6Yeah?
Yeah?
All right?
Speaker 1Well, so what are you thinking?
Ema?
Speaker 6I am thinking?
Can I go with George Pickens?
Speaker 1All years?
Speaker 6Can I go with George Pickens?
Speaker 1Bowlers are off limits?
Speaker 5I want to go to sure think let me go with George Pickens.
I'm going George Pickens.
Uh, let's go eight.
Speaker 6For one hundred and twelve for okay?
All right?
Speaker 1And how many touchdowns I'm.
Speaker 6Gonna go one.
I'm not gonna going to the limb for two.
Speaker 5I'm gonna go one, and I got the Cowboys winning this one.
Twenty two to fifteen.
Speaker 1Twenty two to fifteen.
Yeah, all right, what do you got, Mickey?
Speaker 7I wanted him to pick the date, like twenty twenty five, twenty five to twelve, yeah.
Speaker 1Or twenty five to twenty five tie?
Speaker 7Yeah, right cause it's twenty five date to the twenty five?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Right?
Speaker 6Are you about to pick a time?
Now?
You about to do that?
Speaker 1I've got no idea what I'm picking, But.
Speaker 6Okay, I'm just I can go away here.
Speaker 7I will take Ryan Fillinoy is he gonna play?
Speaker 6He should have?
Speaker 1Well, I don't know.
Well, why don't we pick one that's gonna play play for just for fun?
Speaker 7That just came just helping you out here, came to my mind.
Speaker 1Right now, I'm gonna go with.
I mean, someone who had an MRI on Monday on Monday is not I'll be playing Thursday on Thursday?
Yeah, uh, well, why don't you go and let me think about it?
Speaker 6Okay, I got a stat that I'm ana pickup.
Speaker 5DQ defense is giving up one hundred and forty three and forty one yards rushing four point eight a carry row.
Speaker 6So if they go if the Cowboys can rush.
Speaker 5For one hundred and fifty and five point yards of carry, you should win the game.
Speaker 1I like that.
Speaker 6That's a click.
Speaker 7Yeah, so Williams Or is it Milik Davis?
Speaker 1I don't care, just jading blue getting any time any Yeah, I don't soon.
Speaker 6No, okay, I don't see it all right.
Speaker 1My pick to click then every few is I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go Malik Davis because of that, because he's going up against against the dan Quinn defense.
Speaker 7That can't stop the run.
Speaker 1Uh huh, that's right, and I think, uh stop it here either m and my score, Well, I've seen the dan Quinn defense.
What would the score last night?
Like forty four to twenty two?
Yes, something like that.
Yeah, okay, Cowboys win forty four to twenty two.
Speaker 6Oh my god, I'm gonna take.
Speaker 7I'm gonna take thirty to twenty.
Speaker 1How's that?
Okay?
Speaker 7Thirty twenty.
Speaker 1By the way, I'm the only one who got it the winner right on Sunday.
You know that, who'd you pick?
Well?
Who everyone else picked?
The Cowboys?
Speaker 6That's right?
Duh the way to go.
Speaker 1Ah, finally I finally got one, right.
Speaker 7I'm gonna take.
I'm gonna take Tyler Smith left tackle.
Speaker 1Okay, sacks no sacks?
Speaker 6Allows?
Speaker 1Okay, is going long day Quinn's defense.
Speaker 7And as long as he doesn't get any BS holding call, he'll be the star of the game.
Speaker 1Okay, I like that and Cowboys by one yes right.
Speaker 5For all you guys that are Rbury fans, I hope that we get a signifive yard field goal follow y'all that think Christmas is going to make the different Wow.
Speaker 1Okay, so Mickey is clearly Mickey is spending Christmas in our nation's capital.
I am okay, everyone else is gonna have a good Christmas.
Speaker 6I'll be right here in the studio.
Speaker 1Oh that's right.
So you're doing postgame pre you're.
Speaker 6Doing your pregame deal at what eleven?
Speaker 1Yeah, but we're taping it tonight.
Speaker 6Okay, you working on Christmas.
Speaker 1We're taping it tonight.
What are your Christmas plans?
Speaker 5I'm going to be in a cabin.
Oh really, I'm gonna be in a cabin, man, all right?
By roughing it, roughing it, you're gonna.
Speaker 6Make a movie.
Speaker 5Yeah, the baron got loose.
No, no, man with the family.
Yeah, the family.
Speaker 7Okay, the cabin's not in the backyard.
Speaker 5No, okay, no, no, they go, they go away.
I'll go to California, y'all going to Colorado.
We're gonna go somewhere, man, Oklahoma, I can follow you.
Yeah, man, have a good time.
Mayor Christmas everybody.
Speaker 7Yeah, May Christmas to everybody listening to us.
And we'll be back on Monday, right.
Speaker 1I think so.
Speaker 6Yes, Chris has come back.
On Monday.
Speaker 1Monday, you're back.
Okay, Monday, Monday, we are back.
And so everyone have a very merry Christmas, happy holiday weekend.
We hope you get what you want for Christmas and we will see you again on Monday.
Speaker 6Cowboys got one.
Oh that's right, we eliminate it.
Cowboys.
It's day Christmas.
Speaker 7Cowboys drive to five hundred.
Speaker 6Okay.
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