Hello, Welcome to Happy Horrid Time.

My name is Tim Murdoch.

And my name is Matt Emmerton.

Now, not many people can say they've played a descendant of Jason Vorhees, but today's special guest can.

She starred as Jessica Kimball, Jason's niece in nineteen ninety three's Jason Goes to Hell the Final Friday and get this, she's the one who actually sent him to Hell with that magical dagger and an unforgettable over the shoulder jump, making her one of the esteemed Friday the thirteenth Final Girls, Please welcome to the podcast.

Carrie Keegan, Oh my god, you guys are hilarious.

Hi, how are you?

And oh my god?

Wrapping a Final Girl shirt from our friend Adam Boucie does small town Weirdo.

That's amazing, totally totally guys.

Hey, we are so excited to have you on the show.

And you know, we read we always go back to the beginning to try to get people's like background before they got into acting, So we read that you were born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

So what were like those formative years like for you and how did you first become interested in acting.

Oh, you know, that's an excellent question.

I think I basically was born for this because I was very dramatic as a child.

I had a huge imagination.

I told outrageous, crazy stories, and my mother used to say all the time I was either going to be an actress or a writer, because as Susie was, you know, not in school, she was kidnapped, Which is kind of weird that I'd grow up into a horror film because everybody met with tragic endings.

So it started really really young.

Pittsburgh was a great city to grow up in.

I did the usual Catholic schoolgirl.

I went to the same school that my mother went to and had some of the same teachers, if you could believe that.

And then I was in the very first class of the Pittsburgh High School for Performing Arts, so I went to a performing arts I went to Catholic school in the morning and performing arts school in the afternoon.

Took a bus over there, so it was pretty set in stone.

The acting thing long before, like my formative years, I guess, wow.

And growing up, were you a fan of horror films?

Were any on your radar or had an impact on you?

No?

I was not I'm so sorry this yes, right, Like no, because horror films were really scary and like I was more like you know, the say anything and you know, saying almost fire and I mean they did make one of the biggest horror films in Pittsburgh, Donna the Dead, and they had Chili Billy, so there was lots of that stuff.

I just like it, like it was really scary.

Like No, Jehn Hughes, John Hughes was more your thing.

Yeah, John Hughes was my jam.

That's so funny.

We again, we say this to a lot of guests that I'd say seventy five percent of the people we interview on this show who are in horror movies didn't grow up watching horror movies or were like it wasn't a big impact on them.

We noticed that your very first film role was playing a biker girl in the nineteen eighty eight comedy slash drama The Prince of Pennsylvania, which also starred fred Ward, Keanu Reeves, Bonnie Badelia, Amy Madigan.

So how did you get involved with this project and what was that experience?

Like, well, I had an agent in Pittsburgh, so I did commercials in Pittsburgh, like before I went off to college and things like that, and I was home for the summer and my agent called me and said, oh, they're doing this movie.

And I knew who Bonnie Badillia was, and I knew who Fred Ward was, but I had no clue who Keanu Reeves was because he wasn't.

I think this might have been like his second film ever.

So they said, oh, you're going to play a biker girl.

And I lived next door to some punk girls, some golf girls.

So I let them go to talent on me, so like cripped out my hair and they put me in all these weird clothes and I wrote my resume and hot pink marker and I walked in and I threw it down on the desk and the director's like, that's her.

And that was it that I got the and then I was then the actual Okay, this is the Princeville, Pennsylvania is one of those classic stories that you think, there's no way people are going to believe this.

They used actual a biker band, a game like a guy, a bunch of guys that were actually these biker guys like that the Lords of Hammer or something out of Pittsburgh and like then there was like little me there, like well Blondie can over there with like these real biker guys, like on real motorcycles and things, and it was just it was one of those just you can't believe that you're part of something because you're just like wait what.

And it was really fun.

I mean I never got to really I met body Medillia, and I met Fred Ward, and obviously I worked with Keanu and I play his like pseudo love interests.

And it was supposed to just be one scene and then it morphed into a couple more scenes, like we show up at the prom, or we show up at the dance, and then I show up at the end.

So it was actually a really fun experience all in all.

But I was just happened to be that girl that was available in Pitts when I think they were casting it as like an extra or background performer, and then I just sort of let it morphint him more.

That's so cool, because so you said you met Fred Ward and Bonnie Badelia and you were acting alongside Kanu Reeves.

But again at that time, it was just like, oh, it's just another actor, kind right.

Well, it was.

He was like and Amy Madigan like I was more interested in because you know, I knew who they were.

And Keanu Reeves was just like this young guy like my age, you know, who had this movie.

And you know, he was absolutely lovely.

We were friends for years and years and years after that, like we stayed friends and would see each other from time to time.

And I was probably god Like fifteen years ago, I was someplace and he walked up to me and he's like, oh my god, Carrie, I'm like, oh, shut up, like shut up, like how do you even like you know, like he's a big, giant, huge star, like how would you remember me from like one hundred thousand million years ago?

And he was just he is.

He is one of the few not I'm wanna say a few actors because I can't.

He is as lovely in real life as he is.

He's just a lovely human being.

That's like cool.

Yeah, a lot of people think.

I've got to work with He was nice, you know, he's he was just great.

He was That whole cast was great.

I mean, granted, the only one I really worked with was Keano, so I was more like, get out of my way, Amy Madigan's on the Ceadelia is here, and you know, of course, obviously no idea that Keanu Reeves would become what obviously his life exploded into.

Yeah, that's so crazy because eighty eight when was when did Bill and Ted's excellent eighty eight?

Oh, he was really right starting, he was just starting.

Yeah, well, you know that was like when I went to college in Philadelphia.

One of the guys I studied with was old roommates with this then unknown actor called Tom Cruise, and he had done this like what was the football movie he did before.

The Right Moves, all the right moves?

He had just finished that.

He came to Philly when I was in school in Philly, Like I was hanging out with him when we went to ihop and got pancakes and d D DA and then all of a sudden, Risky business was like Hugh everywhere, and I was like, oh God, I wouldn't have pancakes with that guy.

He's really nice too, Like no clue who he was.

That's so funny.

You had pancakes with Tom Cruise.

Many people likerawberry pancakes.

I had Blueberry.

That's amazing.

Well, so moving on to Jason goes to Hell the final Friday.

Now, what was the audition process like for the role of Jessica, Because we read in Crystal Lake Memories that you originally auditioned for the role of Vicky played by Alison Smith and also had to play Frisbee.

Okay, so this is this is funny.

Well, it's funny, not funny.

I had just moved to LA with my roommate, my New York roommate, and my New York boyfriend, and we signed with this agency, the Gauge Group when we first got here, and my I didt know if I should say their names or not.

My then roommate boyfriend had auditions for Friday the thirteenth, and my A you called me and said, hey, I'm going to get you an audition because somebody else that was supposed to audition can't audition because she's sick and you're not really Friday the thirteenth material anyhow, So just go audition.

And I was like, well, look for the vote of confidence from the beginning.

Yeah, wow, wow with that one.

And he was like, no, don't be insulted like the girls in Friday the thirteenth, they're all bombshells.

They're all beautiful pal pow pow girls, and I'm like, well, feeling better every minute we talk.

Keep going, Yeah, just got need to be an inspirational speak.

Right, throwing myself off the sign there, So I did.

I had the audition for Vicky.

I auditioned for Vicki, and then I was the only one that got the callback.

And then I went to the callback.

And this is how I remember the story.

So, I mean, we're talking thirty some odd years ago, so there could be some creative licensing here, but this is how I remember it.

I went to the audition.

There were several girls for Vicki, and there were several girls for Jessica, and then there was nobody left for Vicky but me, and like three girls left for Jessica, and Alison Smith was not part of that crew yet.

So I'm I at one point, you know, when you aut I don't if people know this, but when you audition, there's a bunch of people.

There's usually the writer, the producer, the director, and a few other paraphernalia people, right, So you walk into a room and you act out whatever scene they want you to act out, and then they usually tell you to leave the room and then bring more people into.

They kept asking me to stay, and then at one point they just stopped asking me to leave the room because I'd have to leave, and like so they could talk.

Well, at one point, I'm listening to everything that they're saying about what they liked about Jessica's and what they didn't like, what they thought all that stuff, right, And so then Sean at one point goes, what do I have her read Jessica?

And now I'm like, oh, are you kidding me with this?

So they brought in a girl that had read for Jessica and asked her to read Vicki and asked me to read Jessica.

And of course I did everything that they said they wanted to do, like you know, the old line La Barros and Genius Steeles.

So I was like duh.

And then uh, then we had another callback, and that callback, Allison was there and there were two other girls there that were Jessica Vicki's and they were mixing and matching all of us, and we were in a big empty soundstage in Culver City, and they asked us to play frisbee and we were.

Like, is there a frisbee scene in the movie.

What I subsequently learned was Alison had cut herself so her hand was in a cast, and Alison is petite, I'm nearly at that time, well I'm shrinking because I'm old.

At that time, I was almost five foot eight and Alison is like five to five.

So we had a thing big differential.

And then the two other girls who I don't remember their names, were playing frisbee and Alison and I are just like killing it right, We're like, we don't know why we're doing this, but all right, whatever.

Well, they wanted because there's a lot of running and punching and kicking, they wanted to see if we were athletic.

That bigs so, and so the other two girls, like, you'd throw the frisbee at them and they'd be like, oh, you know so.

So then pretty quickly Allison and I were just like playing like, you know, flag football, frisbee in this big old sound stage, laughing our heads off.

And then uh, that was that.

And then I had another callback where well, the sean said to me after that audition, you're definitely this was a Friday too, and this was pre cell phone, so we're talking like most of the kids here don't even know what that means.

Pre cell phone, Like you had to wait till you got home and get a landline and call your agent.

And this is like a four o'clock on a Friday, and Sean Cunningham said, Oh, you're definitely in the movie.

We just don't know which role we want you to play, Jessica or Vicky.

And of course I was like out of my freaking mind.

I was like, are you kidding me with this?

And so I drove home and I called my age and I said, I'm totally in the movie.

And then he yelled at me like, don't say that, you know, no, that's o.

There's contracts, they tell you all kinds of stuff.

That's bullshit.

And I was like okay.

And then he called me Monday and he was like, I can't believe that I'm gonna say this.

You've got the lead.

And I was like, shut the fuck up.

And he's like, and you have to go in today at three o'clock to read with the Stevens.

And I was like, and I didn't really have the whole script at that point, but because I just had the roles between me and Vicki and Vicki and I.

I didn't have any other so I didn't know what the sea.

I didn't know anything about this.

I didn't know I was Jason's niece.

I didn't know anything.

So I go in and there's a whole bunch of guys there and I walk into the room and they're like yeah, I'm like yeay, And then I said, you know, there's only three things that my mom wanted to know, like as every mother would, do you die, do you swear?

And are you naked?

And I said I don't die, I do swear, and I'm not naked.

And then they all was like a hush, and I was like and they said, well there's a little shower scene and da da da.

I'm like, oh, I don't do nu, tony.

So I'm just and I like started to get up to leave, like clearly you're gonna not give me this joke, and then Sean's like, oh god, don't be silly.

Sat down.

So then we just started reading, and I read with a bunch of different guys, and John and I just it was as though we knew each other our whole lives.

So it was really clear when Sean came in and like there was a little break and we were like just chatting back and forth between each other.

So that was.

That That is awesome, you know.

There we had talked about how IMDb trivia has a lot of facts that aren't always correct, so wanted to ask you one that we read that said that Lorie Holden, who went on to star as Andrea and The Walking Dead, was director Adam Marcus's first choice to play Jessica, but Sean Cunningham overruled him and pushed for you to get the role.

Do you know if this is true?

And did you know any of this at the time.

No clue.

Actually, this is the first time I'm actually hearing I mean, wow, you I And again I wouldn't be surprised.

I mean everybody has who they want for things.

Uh, you know, I only knew that it was ever between Alison and I, and the reason that I got the rollover Alison was sheer because of height.

I didn't make sense that I that that the lead would be petiteter than the than the girlfriend.

And I in my head thought, well, yeah, because your backup bitch is always the one that's gonna roll everybody exactly the ride or died, it's going to show up with the shovel and the chainsaw and like make the body disappear.

Yeah, it makes sense that I could be taller or bigger than she was.

Did you did you happen to recognize her from Kate and Ally?

Oh?

I knew her from Annie like she's like Broadway the Longest, So yeah, of course, I mean I I saw her as Annie, So I knew Alison like before Kate, Like, oh now, I was totally fangirling out over her.

Don't get yourself m m so like, oh my god, I love like you know, the total dweb.

And at the time you were cast, did you go back and watch any a Friday thirteenth or did you already have seen all of those?

No, Seemember.

We're talking about like Blockbuster era, right, so you needed to go get the It wasn't like now where you can go and netflix it out.

And I also didn't want to see though, because I didn't want to have any like ideas about like, oh you know, I didn't want to.

I didn't.

Let's just put it that way.

I did not see any of them.

Have you seen them since?

Then?

Well?

Wait, wait but you and no, no, And again we get that same sort of answer from people that have been in this series too, or they only have watched theirs.

Did you you were familiar.

With what Friday the thirteenth was though, right and Jason and all that.

I mean, mask, I knew the hockey, mask, I knew there was a mother issue exactly.

Thank you, thanks for putting that out.

I knew, yeah, I mean, I knew the idea of Friday the thirteenth, but I also knew that this one was different because New Line made it and it didn't actually have Friday the thirteenth in the title, so there was it.

I mean, I have subsequently watched them now that I've met at the convention, I met Amy and Jensen Merril, so I watched their Friday the thirteenth.

But this is God, They're terrifying.

Yeah, I mean well, I mean the funny thing is well, first off, going back to even if that IMDb trivia stat is true, the fact that if it's true, is Sean Cunningham was like the one who was really pushing for you is such like an honor.

And you know, he's like the father of the entire franchise.

So the fact that he wanted you in that role is so awesome.

But I've got to know, when you first read the full script for Jason Coast to Hell, what were your initial reactions to the whole body swapping aspect for Jason, And because that was really that was totally new for the series at the time, right.

And for me, I was like, well, again, when you read these things and you're not familiar with the genre, You're just like, what the fuck is this?

Like what what?

And like they're gonna like go after the baby, and I'm like, this is child abuse, Like what are we doing?

So when I first read, when I first read the full script, I actually didn't understand it, and I thought, well, this is what directors are for, right, That's their job is to make me understand it.

And I knew I was working with an enormous crew of people like Leslie and Rusty and all these people that like knew what they were doing, and I just thought, just show up and do my job and just be like because my character wouldn't know any of this either, Great, Yeah, my character doesn't know she's related to Jason.

My character doesn't know.

So I actually thought it was better that I didn't understand it because I would just be like, wait, what through the whole movie, which is pretty much what I do.

Like, I'm not going down there, and you know what do you like?

He throws the knife at me and I catch and lick the fuck.

Yeah.

No, that's so true now, and I think about it, it's like, if you really want to be true to your character, if your character doesn't know what's going on, then you shouldn't either.

Right, And so I thought it was you know, kind of ignorance is bliss and just roll with it.

Good.

Total, No, that that makes a lot of sense.

You know.

You also mentioned in Crystal Lake Memories that on your first day of shooting you dropped a flashlight and it broke your toe.

How did this happen?

And did they have to push off shooting after that?

Oh no, no, no, no.

I didn't drop the flashlight.

Stephen cult dropped the flashlight.

So the scene, there's a scene in the garage where I'm going to get a flash of the lights go down.

After the shower scene, I go into the car to get a flashlight.

I come out.

Steven's like, oh and the flashlight drops.

Well it was one of those big ass industrial flashlights, right, And I was barefoot and it fell on the top of my foot and so it broke my toe.

And no, they didn't push it off.

There's like the next scene is us coming out of the house where John throws me over his back and carries me down the driveway.

Yeah, that happened because I couldn't run down the driveway, so John had to carry me.

And I'm supposed to be kicking and John is not much more tall, like he's not much taller than I am.

And they did it like sixteen times.

So the whole time, I'm like, I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry, Like I'm like John, I'm so sorry, because like he had to run a pretty good distance with me over his back.

No they didn't.

They didn't stop shooting at all, and like just wrap my toe up and off you go.

But like did weren't you feeling the effects of that for days afterward?

Like yeah, of course, But when you're on a movie set and you've never been on a movie set, they could probably chop your arm off and be like I'm good, I'm good, let's go.

Same thing.

Like there's a scene where I dropped down to get the dagger in the house.

I totally blew up my ankle, totally twisted my ankle because I dropped down like nine feet.

I didn't just drop like I'm hanging on a set thing and then want to get the whole dropped out.

And then oh my god, Oh I'm so beat up to this.

I am surprised that he use a stump woman for that.

Uh they know, no, they they don't have stunt babies, they don't have stunt people.

Yeah, and I think it was one of those things like I'm really tall and it doesn't look like it's that far right, and it's like I land and dah da da da, and it's much easier to just have the camera follow me.

Was that was that a real house set or was that on a sound stage?

Okay, no, the real No, that was all sound stage.

Now, the real house is the house that you see were at the very end of the movie with a jungle gym Steene And that's a real house off of Cheeseboro and up the the freeway.

Er like, oh yeah, well, well, speaking of that scene where the whole flashlights and happened, even though it takes late in the movie, you mentioned that the first that was.

The first one stay shooting yet.

Yeah, well, and it was opposite, Like you said, Stephen Colep who played your TV reporter boyfriend Robert, and he's trying to shove that big, disgusting black tongue in your mouth because he's bessessed by Jason.

So I've got to know what did they use for that tongue and what was it like filming that scene?

Well, he doesn't actually, Oh my god, you know what, I just have to remember this now, they had a prosthetic.

I don't know that I ever got that.

They ever show it coming out of his mouth towards me.

I think that that's a cheap for like the next ones, I think that that what John's character, Stephen comes in before Robert gets that far in the situation with me, because then he goes and jumps in the sheriff's body, right, because he goes to that, and then Edna gets her head smashed in bright Yeah.

I actually, ever, I don't think he got to that point.

I think I just flashed the light and I go Robert, then help breaks loose.

And you also work away.

You also worked with the baby.

What was the baby?

Unpredictable?

No, Okay, here's the deal.

Brooke Sheer, who played the baby, was young.

First of all, she was the cutest, sweetest thing on the planet.

It's like, was crazy and there were no she was just like this.

They had a couple of babies, but anytime they were really working, they worked with broke.

But there is a scene where I jump over a table and slide across the table and then I put the baby down at one point and then I go get the dagger because there was I'm like, and that was a real baby, and I was like, maybe we should maybe not use a real baby, and so that was like that got changed around a little bit.

But no, she was just like this sort of like la la la la la, the cutest thing ever.

Now she's like, oh grown up, Yeah, that's so crazy.

I mean because we always think like, obviously you can't give direction to a baby.

So it's like how you.

Know she knew what she she well, she comes from a family where that this isn't her blood too.

So it was funny because they're the scene with Kimp and maybe I'm jumping ahead and you can tell me not to jump ahead where Kip is trying to put the thing in and it was like the shot of her was like, oh my god, that's the coolest thing ever.

Like, you know, she was like six months old.

I mean she was really like I don't even know how it developed her eyes were at that point to notice what was, you know, happening.

She just she slept and when they needed her on set.

And remember too, with babies, they can only work like ten to fifteen minutes at a time.

Yeah, so when she was on, she was on.

Man, I love that she was working.

Yeah, working it well.

So you also.

Stayed in the book that you were kind of the rookie on set and felt like you were going to get fired every day?

What made you feel that way.

Because you could tastrophize.

It's the it's the impostor syndrome.

Meryl Streep was one how many oscars and will turn around and say, any day they're going to figure out.

I don't know what I'm doing right because everybody everybody had careers, like major careers, but me, I had I had the Prince of Pennsylvania, Thank you and good night.

Yeah.

So you know, so there's always this like that's just I think it's just normal.

I think actors think that way and feel that way.

If you have an Oscar or an Emmy or Tony or anything like.

I just think you feel like they're going to figure out that I don't belong here sooner or later, and then I'm going to get fired.

But I think after the first week you're like, well not just be really expensive to fire, so careful, you know, like the other actors are like, they're not going to fire you.

You're too expensive to fire.

At that point, we can't do reshoots.

We're good kickups.

Yeah, So if it's.

Okay, we were hoping we could ask you about working with director Adam Marcus, because I know there were some issues while shooting the film.

To summarize just really quickly what we learned in Crystal Like Memories, there was the conflict overdoing nudity during your shower scene that the neck in I think you suffered when you that wasn't really taken seriously, and then You're agent got involved, and then it all resulted in Sean Cunningham stepping in the direct the last couple of scenes.

So can you take us through, like what really happened with all of that, just to clear everything up and what and how did it lead to Sean Cunningham directing those last few days.

Okay, this is okay.

This is one of those situations where you don't learn about things until way after and you're like, wait, what the fuck happened?

Wait what?

So okay, we're talking about like the last couple of days of shooting.

There is a scene where like I roll into a tree and I hurt my neck, and I just was like, oh, I hurt my neck.

My neck doesn't feel good.

There wasn't any like catastrophic up until the news scene never happened.

Clearly, I'm in the shower, I had Dixie cups on.

It didn't happen.

A lot of this stuff got really like I think the game Phone, where like one person said something, said something said something I did not realized, Like I did get hurt a lot, and I didn't realize.

And then when I said to my agent, like in a conversation, like I really hurt my neck, I didn't imply, and he blew up and then he got involved, and then things spiraled out and I showed up to work and it was like I know, you know there was some beef with Adam, but like I didn't.

I didn't know.

It was like I think it got way blown up, way bigger than I felt at the time.

I wasn't like, oh, fire him, get him off the job.

There was like three days left of shooting.

It wasn't like there was like it was nothing.

And I think what happened is that I think sometimes agents get involved and they want to be big man on campus and then all I did, you know, like Sean was going to like direct the last couple of days and Adam was doing something else, and that happens a lot.

You know, that happens a lot on sets when you're doing a roll b roll where like you know so and so celebrities on set, so like the camera guy or so and so is gonna, you know, just do get picked do these pickup shots.

And there wasn't anything major left that we were shooting.

It was just a kiss and a walk, like the scene where John and I kiss at the very end of the movie when they're trying to drag him into Hell, I think, and then we're walking away.

So it wouldn't have occurred to me like there was some big, major problem.

And I didn't find out about this big major problem until like two years later and the book came out.

My birthday was wrong, and I was like, oh wow, I didn't know that was a thing.

So I felt really bad because it was never I never felt bad towards Adhaim.

I never thought anything.

You know, he was a young director and doing what.

You know, I had no point of reference.

It wasn't like I'd been on other movies and I can say, oh, this is a terrible director because or this is a great director.

I had no point of reference.

So's it's so unfortunate that this is still something that's talked to me.

But I think Adam is great.

I didn't have a problem, like you know, I think some other people got involved and I was just like.

Okay, and what's your relationship with Adam?

Now?

Well, I saw I had him for the first time.

At at Crystal Lake Nightmares.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Yeah, about to say a different thing, and that would have.

Been really bad.

Yeah, And like this was the first time I saw him, and I hugged him and I was like, hey, how you doing.

I met, you know, chatted with his wife, and you know, it was just like a high school reunion of sourts.

Because I hadn't seen John in thirty years.

I hadn't seen Adam in thirdon Adam Marcus and Adam or Brook or or Andy Block or Steven Williams.

I saw I had seen sorry saw that's well my English.

I saw Caine Hadder at another convention because I haven't done any of these and forever and ever and ever, and a friend was like, you should go back and do the conventions I really find And so this was the first.

This was only the second convention I'd ever done.

Was Memories of Crystal Lake.

Oh how lucky are I know, I'm just going to say.

And for people listening, we got to meet in person carry Kegan.

We were very excited and that's how and then we talked to her about getting her on the show.

But so, yeah, yeah, I mean these.

Convent there's so many conventions.

I mean, let me tell you, there is an audience.

You could be doing this all year round every year if you once.

I got an agent just for that reason.

Jansen and Amy Steele were like, oh my god, because when we did this convention, like there's you know, panels that you do and all these you know, photo ops and all this stuff, and I was just like, where we go, Okay, We're going over here, ok, we're going over here.

So and it was fun because John and I just sat like little, you know, because we had seen it, like we have kids, and our kids are grown up, and you know, our whole lives and now it's back.

You know, it's the forty fifth anniversary, and you're like, because you don't think to yourself, who cares Like they did a movie thirty three years ago?

It's so awesome.

Fourteenth people care very much.

They do six forever.

Yeah, everyone's a faithful person to every single film.

Yeah, it's true through the whole franchise.

And like and also I was gonna say, well, first off, thank you so much for kind of setting the record straight on all those things, because I know, like between IMDb books and things, you know, they a lot with I had.

My IMDb birthday because it says my birthday is like a couple of years later than it actually is.

I'm like, yeah, can I have that?

Can that stick?

Well?

My birthday is in April and I wasn't born in nineteen sixty eight.

I think that's so funny that, like, how does that Like.

I don't even know anybody, Like my mother's birthday is in April, but it's not even my mom's birthday.

So it's like this weird there was all kinds of it's it's it's weird, like, yeah, I wasn't born in nineteen.

Sixty eight, but I got to tell you Also, another cool thing about conventions, like when you do these panels, is that for every time someone asks you about this like conflict, you can always clear you guys can clear it out and be like, no, this isn't how it all happened.

Like it was a game of telephone for like thirty some years.

Yeah.

Well and that's sad.

Isn't that such a bummer?

Like, you know, that's just such a It makes me sad in a way because it's like, you know, it was a great experience.

There is like Leslie Jordan and Rusty Schwimmer and Alison Smith and Steven Williams, how bad could your life have been?

And Aaron Grid laughing your fucking head off every day?

Yeah, but you know what, like, yes, it sucks that all these years are gone by in it and this all was out there.

But now the way I look at it, trying to see the silver lining is that now you have the rest of your life to set the record straight.

And have fun with these people and not think about all of the stuff from the past, you know what I mean, not think about the fake controvert or the false type, but existing not existing controversy.

Yeah, although there is one other thing I have to ask you about because I read that in your shower scene you were crying because the water was so hot and you were truly hein Is that true?

Sort of one of the takes.

It was a little on a toasty side, but then they fixed it immediately, so it was you know, it was not I don't think I I was acting.

See, there's this thing that they tell you to do when you when you become an actor, that you act and like you don't really need to cry because the water is burning the skin off your body.

No, I mean see again, Like, but that that's much more interesting that she was just acting, isn't it.

You mean, it's like, I'm surprised at this one.

They haven't said Adam Marcus specifically turned the temperature upon that.

Marcus made sure that she had three degree burns.

Yeah, you know, walked in together at the at the premiere.

So if it was such a love if it was such a hate fest, why would I have walked in with him.

Yeah, that'd been like, no fucking way.

Yeah, that's so funny.

If I was in such a state of like disarray if you will, or discombobulation, or my agent was at the premiere, why would he said absolutely not like this.

They were satan, you know what I mean, and we were smiling and laughing.

So like I guess again, like when I heard about it some years later, I'm like, wait, what, wait, what that's the thing?

Like who said that?

And again, you know, I was real busy for you know, a couple of decades doing my other life mom wife THINGA no, no, no, that it that.

I was shocked when like a couple of you know, years ago something did you know, I'm like, oh, who did that?

Carrie?

She's such a bitch, you know, like and they're like, oh, that's you, And I'm like, yeah, that none of that.

That didn't happen, or at least that's not the way I remember.

If Adam remembers something different or Sean, I'm not going to fault anybody.

What they were that certainly wasn't like what I remember.

You said you saw Adam at the Crystal Lake Nightmares Crunching.

Did you also see Sean Cunningham?

Did you get did Sean at Jessica Nol?

I mean, my character is named after Jessica, after Sean's gotter Jessica.

Yeah, that's awesome.

Yeah, And Noel was on the set, so it was it was like they were like babies then.

I mean it was twenty three, right, I think he.

Turned twenty four because I was twenty six twenty so I don't remember how old I was, but I was I was like a couple like a year or two older.

And you know, Sean was on the set all the time.

Yeah, so you know it was it didn't occur to me that like just didn't occur.

Yeah, So I just have to get this straight.

You've never seen the original Fright thirteen.

I'm sure I had not miss.

Yeah, with Betsy Palmer, We're gonna have to invite you to a screening.

Cherry.

Yeah, I mean great films, but but yeah, the original I will say that you'll watch in him be like, it's so different than even the rest of the series because there's no Jason until I mean, it's all his mother.

Isn't Amy Steele?

The first one where there's Jason Mass like the most popular Friday the thirteenth, Is it not the one that the people that people like the most.

One of the most popular sequel I think, you know, it's definitely one of the.

Top thirteenth specifically these these ones.

Yeah, I mean people love Part two, but the mask was introduced in Part three and three.

D Yeah, we're giving you a nice little of one on one on five.

I just so that people don't like Jason Goes to Help, they love to tell you that.

Well, people also did not like Part five, but now I'd say Part five and Jason Goes to Hell are very loved because people rediscover and films tried something new, which the other ones right, No, we're like scary driven.

They become cult classics after time period.

After that initial like negative reaction, people start to come around do them.

It's like in the Halloween series, there's one that has nothing to do with Michael Meyer's Season of the Witch, and now everyone loves Season of the Yes, yeah, yeah.

Well I think you know it's funny because you know, when I did the One convention last year, people would walk home, go you know, this is the worst Friday the thirteenth, So I've been told, but we love you, and I'm like, well, fantastic, you know, and I get it, like because it's the Jason isn't in it enough, do you know what I mean?

Like the masks in it and enough.

But I think there's so many Easter eggs in ours.

There's so many the fact that Jason kills Jason, Like so you know, there's you know, the writer's in it, the director's in it, Sean's in it, Adam's in it.

I mean not Sean, but Dean.

Lorie's in it.

Like there's lots of like I call easter eggs, and I think are really really fun, you know.

And I always joke about the fact that I'm related to Jason and then I have stabbing issues and you know, you're like, where is she now?

She's in therapy and you know, the daughter is stabbing issues and all the knives are locked up and you know all that sort of fun stuff.

So we want to play a fun little game with you about related to your Jason goes to how Stars where you just have to answer some simple questions.

Don't worry, it's not trivia or anything.

You just have to answer with the name of the co star who fits the question best.

Now again, not it's just going.

To be a test, No, no, no, no, it's just opinion based.

It's it's opinion based.

It's opinions, okay, And so it can be any of your Jason Goes to Hell co stars, But the ones that you know you shared the most screen time with were Stephen Colp, John d LeMay obviously you played your ex Steven Allison Smith who played Vicki, Stephen Williams who played Creighton Duke and Rusty Swimmer, and Leslie Jordan who ran the diner.

Among these co stars, who was the biggest jokester on set while filming Leslie Leslie Jordan, that makes sense.

Who was the most reserved Stephen Colt Really Who flirted the most with other people?

Rusty Schwimer, That's.

Hilarious, all flirty flirt.

Who improvised the most?

Oh, that's I'd say, I I think that's a big time between Rusty and Leslie and Steve it, John LeMay and I.

I think there are a lot of things that happened that we improvised, like in the diner scene when I say too, and there's bloopers that made it in the movie.

So here I'll give you a fun one.

There's in the scene where I pick up the napkins and I swing it at Rusty.

I came this close to hitting her actual face and like I could literally feel it clipped her nose, and you can see me go, oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god, because I was literally terrified that I nearly hit her.

That there was just my hair was a big problem on the set because I have really curly hair, not straight hair, and you see me rip off and put my hair in a ponytail because hair and makeup couldn't take it one day longer, and we shot in the summer, so they were like, we can't with the flat iron in between every take get her hair straight.

So that's when the hair went up in a ponytail.

So it was like improvising stuff like that, and Adam was really good about that too.

Like there's bloopers.

There's a scene in the car where I smashed Steven's head into the steering wheel and there's supposed to be a pad there there wasn't.

Oh god, I rashed his head and he had like a across his head and then you like, I go to punch him and like, I got very close to.

Actually, everybody is getting hurt on this set, got beat up.

Oh my god.

Okay, who had the strongest opinions about how they wanted to play their character?

Kip?

Okay.

Who did you hang out the most when you weren't filming?

John, John, and Leslie and Rusty.

When Rusty and Leslie were on set, we were like a little pod.

And then definitely Allison and John and I like hung out like in each other's rooms or trailers all the time.

Yeah, that's cool.

Who did you keep in touch with the most after the film wrapped?

Probably John and Leslie.

Leslie and I were friends, and Rusty and I did a couple of commercials after that together, But I would say friend.

Like, who I like stayed in contact the longest with was probably Leslie because we lived near each other so we would see each other a lot more.

And and John.

Yeah, and Alison went back to New York because I think then she did the West Wing.

Well maybe that was later, I can't remember, but yeah, Rusty, Leslie and John.

Who do you get asked most about to this day?

Who do I get asked kine about?

Jason?

Jason like, what's he like in real life?

What was he like in real life?

Because when he he was such he was so great.

Like when he was in Jason character, nobody talked to him, like he did not interact with the cast crew.

He just stayed off to himself.

But then when he was playing the FBI agent, he was like super fun and really fun guy.

He's such a nice guy.

No, I mean we've heard that from other people who've worked with him.

And moving on speaking to that big climactic finale.

Now, as I mentioned in the intro, you know you're the one who actually sends Jason the hell because you jump on his back from behind, you reach over with that magic dagger, stab him in the heart.

Then you end up kicking it in to solidify it.

So how was all that done?

Like it?

Because you did all I take it because they weren't stunt people.

So how did they do the whole run jump thing?

Was there like a stool you jumped on?

There is a big like what looked like a rock.

So when you see the the I don't know if they have the far away shot, you see me jump on the rock and come over.

And Kane was you know, he was the stunt coordinator, so everything was very choreographed.

Everything was very like what he throws me and I go flying backwards, you know that sort of stuff.

So it was there's a big rock that I jump on to stab them, and you know, obviously the knife is not going to go.

You didn't really stab them.

Well, it does a little contractual retraction.

That's cool.

Were there any scenes you remember filming that ended up being cut or any big changes from like when you got the script to what ended up getting on.

The scenes got added actually because they added the scene on the phone with Aaron Gray and I because you never saw Aaron Gray and I on screen together because Aaron Gray is like five years older than I am.

So I play my mom and that was because the person that was supposed to play my mom ended up like pulling out very late.

And I believe and I hope I'm not lying because I don't want to be like, oh my god, she's a liar.

Sean and Aaron were really good friends, and so she stepped in and you never see us, and then there were comments about that.

So then they did a whole pickup where and my hair was longer and blonder, so have a baseball cap and I'm talking to her on the phone right before she gets killed.

So that got added.

But no, I don't.

I don't think anything was.

I don't really think you could cut anything because the script is really tight and you have a really short window that you're filming, So I don't.

I don't think so, No, you know, not gonna lie.

I we do notice.

It's like, sure, your mom really does look like you guys are very close in age.

I'm wondering who was meant to play that part first.

I'm gonna go with Meryl Street, Yes, yes, Oh.

My god.

I don't know who was I I think it was.

I don't remember, but I remember being somebody that was on a soap opera that would look like they were like blonde like me and looked like my mom.

And I was like, oh god, I.

Wish I have a hugeful for like twenty plus years.

I was gonna ask you, like, so, did you ever get to meet Aaron Gray?

I'm glad, Okay, Yeah, I met erin she was on set.

You know, we did the diner seeing she was on set for the dining or scene.

Oh my another again like just such a lovely eloquent, like just eloquent.

Ugh, I mean, dear god, she's just ridiculously beautiful.

Totally well you are, I know, so are you?

Anyhow, I'm just say it.

And after the movie wrapped, what was there a red carpet premiere for the cast and crew?

And how did you feel seeing the movie for the first time on the big screen?

Uh?

Yes, they did it at the at Chinese Theater and it was on Friday the thirteenth, August Friday the thirteenth, because they always premiered them on Friday the thirteenth, and it was a big old It was like, I don't think I even remember because I think I was so like what is this?

And people ask, oh, I do remember?

Was that I made the Worst dress list because my friend and I decided that we were going to do that.

So I wore this Ola Cassini very heavy sequel dress with converse high tops that I believed lindsay lowhand then coffeed like ten years later is totally stole my look.

Oh gosh, do you have a picture I want to see?

Do you know what I Actually, I don't have it here, like I don't have it out?

Was my mom had it?

Framed and I was like so horrified by that, Like what, Like, I'm just excited to be in the National Inquiry, like as the worst dressed.

Don't get me wrong for one hot second, but like that she had it framed.

I'm like, where do you think I'm gonna hang this in my house?

Like are you?

Like?

That's when people say don't you have the poster hanging in your houstan?

Like have you seen the poster?

Would you in your house?

It was such a controversial poster because everyone was like that the alien thing.

Yeah, they were like I don't know, but I think they it was too scary just for kids to be in the movie theater.

Yeah, no, I mean it's okay, this is a funny story.

Last night I went down to Orange County to go act throwing because oh I.

Love extra I did that for my birthday a few years ago.

Okay, so yeah, it's super fun.

Right.

So I went to this place called Slashers because it's all horror film.

Heard of it?

Heard of it?

Yes, went with a friend and we're checking in.

You have to sign the waiver, right, and I'm like, well, we want to be in the Jason one and the woman goes, well, of course you do, and I was like, okay, that's odd.

And then then you signed the waiver and she goes, are you Carrie Keegan like the Carrie And I'm thinking to myself, are you fucking kidding?

And I'm like, I'm a Carrie Keingan.

I don't know if I'm what you mean by thee.

And she's like, are you in Part nine?

And I'm like, this woman was like maybe twenty five, twenty six years old.

I'm like, shut the fuck up.

How would you in God's Nate?

Like, come on, this movie was thirty three years ago.

She's like I just watched it like two weeks ago, and like it was.

And I just laughed because I'm thinking, when I did the movie, and now I go to like Orange County to Coast and Mason to like an axe throwing place.

So it's very fun.

It was very fun to sign an axe.

It was hilarious.

That's awesome.

Can I keep one of these actses?

I'm telling you though, Like Tim said, I mean, like the Friday the Thirteenth fan base is so committed and they're committed to every movie even if they don't like it, and so like like they know, including us, like everyone who's been in every movie.

So I'm not surprised.

Actually, such a full circle moment for me because like I was working at a movie theater when this movie came out and I.

Shut up, you were not.

Yes, I was sixteen and I told my movies you were not.

See what you look like Dorian Gray somewhere.

Oh that's so sweet.

This zoom is very nice.

Oh I've seen you in real life?

What no, no, okay, whatever, we'll talk about care tell me what the beauty secrets are there.

But when I told my manager, I said, Jason goes to Hell.

Can't beat it was a twelve screen movie theater.

I was like, it can't be in this small theater.

It will sell out.

I was like, put it in the biggest theater right now, because it will be number one at the box office.

And my my manager's like, no, it won't sell out.

He goes, this is the ninth one.

I was like, okay, and then I was right and I love that.

Like everyone was like Tim, and I was like, I know, we're like Tim, tell me what to bet on in the horse races?

No, san Anita telling me to del mart you can start picking ponies for us and and money.

I was like, this has a built in audience.

You make it, they will be there.

Yeah, you know.

I mean that is crazy because you don't realize it.

Like when when we are at a convention and somebody comes from Sweden or Japan and like, they have your name, want to post it note because they're waiting for that.

It is, it is.

They're the coolest fans.

I gotta say, who knew?

So I just wanted to ask, as we're talking about the fan base and all this, why in your opinion do you think the Friday to thirteen franchise is so beloved among horror fans.

I mean even it's been forty five years since the original movie and is still so beloved and still moving on with the Jason universe.

Why in your opinion do you think it is so monumental?

Oh that is such an excellent question, and I wish I had an excellent answer for it, other than I think that there's something about human beings that like to be scared, and there's something about the idea of like camp and that sort of thing.

Because everybody either went to camp wanted to go to camp.

So you're hitting on all kinds of sort of touchstones, mother son issues, sex, all that sort of stuff, and it's like, if you're younger, you're like imagining, like what would it be like to go to camp and be running for your life terrified?

So I think there's something about it, and I think Sean was just really masterful about like the franchise and the different ways the stories, the different Fridays got laid out that you know, he just he had that magic jishu if you will, that just he touched it, it turned to gold.

And I mean, like, I don't know other franchises within the horror film that have had what eleven?

Is there eleven?

Friday the thirteenth thirty?

Yeah, twelve, Yeah, there's twelve.

There's only one franchise that has beat it, and is the Halloween franchise.

It's like thirteen.

It's a huge.

I mean there, don't trust me.

I love the Friday the thirty franchise.

My favorite franchise.

I can't.

I can't believe I'm saying this to Kerry Keegan in one of the Friday the thirties.

Is the Halloween franchise, Like I saw the original when I was a kid, and whatever.

But between Halloween Friday the thirteenth are really the most enduring franchises in horror, you know.

Right, And there hasn't been anything equivalent since, Right, there's no I know what you did last summer and you know the conjuring and all, but they've they've never been able to sustain forty five years.

Yeah, that's I mean in a world of AI and all kinds of effects and all kinds of stuff that like they couldn't do forty five years ago, right, like blood squirt in your mouth versus like what they can do now.

Like I sit there and I think about all of the prosthetics that were used in our Friday the thirteenth, from you know, Anda's head getting smashed in and they had to sit there with that on for hours, with straws up their nose.

Like I remember Leslie Jordan talking about being claustrophobic, and they had to make a full body bust.

And now they would just take a picture of you digitally and make it and it would match, And that was not what they had to do back then.

And you only got one or two takes to destroy that, you know, that object, because they couldn't make it again real quick, like they can now.

So like the artistry and the effects of Friday the Thirteenths and the Halloweens is it's so I wish that I think is the underplay of these types of movies that people don't understand of like how hard it is to get and recreate, recreate the continuity of that, and how taxing it was for actors at that time because you they didn't just digitalize your face and then make a prosthetic.

They used your actual face and made a mold of you.

And the time that that took is crazy.

Yeah, we've spoken to actors who've had to go under the mold and put the straws up their nose.

It sounds like a claustrophobic nightmare.

I would have been fired immediately.

I would have been like absolutely not well.

And I saw that I was like, oh god no.

And by the way, your answer was excellent for why.

I know you said you didn't have a prepared answer, but that makes a lot of sense for why people are and you know, of course everyone has a different reason for why this series is so beloved, But like I always love hearing the people who are in it, like hearing their thoughts on it, just because like you were part of this thing that is endured for so long.

It's just got to be crazy to think that a movie you did thirty something years ago is still being talked about so much.

Yeah, talked about it, and like people are interested in like they you know, what did you think of this?

And you're like, really, okay, cool.

I mean it's super fun.

I have to say, having not been in the business for twenty plus years and all of a sudden you go back in and you're like, it's it's really fun.

It's very flattering, and it's it's it's sweet, and the fans couldn't be any more adorable, and it's really fun.

I've got two questions.

Did you get to be just Joe?

And that's way?

Did you get to meet Michael be Silver?

Okay, he was the naked guy in the tent?

Oh?

Oh, I did not work that day, Michael.

That's why I'm sitting here like John diy because he picks them up in the car.

But working that day, oh bummer.

And my next question, what are you up to today?

Well?

That is funny.

I have decided to go back into the acting sphere.

I started taking classes again.

I'm at the groundlings.

I am doing a little writing.

I actually was talking with John about when it be interesting to like have a hole, like where are they now?

Like what happened to my character?

What happened to my baby?

What happened?

Because we are like I think it might be really fun to do like some sort of like Final Girls support group, Like you know, Jamie Lee Curtis is the head of the support group, and like you know, we meet on Sundays, not Friday the thirteenth, or not on Halloween.

And you know, I think there could be a lot of something can't be in fun that could be done in this.

So I'm just sort of like, you know, I'm an empty nester now, kind of hanging out figuring out, like what's that next chapter look like?

And so let's let's see what this what this could do now that it's a really fun place to be.

It's like getting to be a teenager all over, except with a lot more wisdom.

Yeah, well, I mean, and so of course it sounds like I know the answer is question, but we were going to ask if the Powers that be ever wanted you to reprise the role of Jessica in a New Friday the thirteenth film.

Would you be up for it?

Well, yeah, one hundred percent.

I think it'd be hilarious.

Like I always joked like, could you imagine if, like Jessica was dating, Like, let's say Steven and Jessica didn't work out.

She's in the support group guy like, and then he took me to a hockey game.

Can you believe it?

He took me to a hockey game because she gets triggered by a mask or knives, like, you know, like the daughter, you know, Yeah, I had to go down to Brook you know, down to baby's school because you know, she pulled out a knife again, because I mean think about it, I'm related.

Yeah, so there's got to be some jacked up jeans going on in there.

I would love And let's cast the girl who actually was your baby in that way.

He walked John and I walked up to her at the convention because she was at the convention and we were like, okay, so tell us about your life choices.

What are you doing?

Do we need to like have a parental intervention here?

And like we just had the We had so much fun with that because literally I think I saw her I think I saw her she was like twelve or thirteen at something, and then like now she's like you know, she's like, yeah, she's in her thirties.

She's like, oh, grown up.

So it's really fun.

How does she answer questions now after?

So what was it like shooting?

I mean, because she can't remember, like you.

Couldn't have so much fun with that?

She'd say, well, therapy, I learned that, I you know, like she can.

I would like I would sit calmbat to know and if I were hurt, like well, you know when they were doing my close up and I was like, wrong side because now you could do all those things with babies, right, like you see those memes where babies walk around going I'm calling Grandma.

Yeah, she could have been like I'm walking off this set like she could have had a blast with that.

And did John ever talk about his right thirteenth days on the TV series because he didn't know answer.

We you know, it was funny because I remember him saying, have you ever seen the series?

I'm like no, and then we've just like.

It had nothing to do with the movie, so it wasn't like anything related yet it's a title, Yeah.

It's a title, and I think to like his girlfriend at the time and my boyfriend at the time, the four of us all became really good friends.

So there were so many more things to talk about than that.

Not cursed antiques.

Yeah not not what too hard nerds would ask him about.

You can't believe it.

If only we knew you then, exactly.

Yeah.

So we have one final question for you, Carrie, And you've been so great, Thank you so much for just everything that you have talked about and shared with us about this movie.

And we asked this question to everyone we interview, and it's going to put you on the spot.

But what is.

Tests I know, I know, what is just one thing that you can tell us about your experience working on Jason Goes to Hell the Final Friday that you've never told any other interviewer, podcaster, convention, Q and a publication.

Just one thing.

It doesn't have to be big and gossipy and to be scandalou unless you want it to be.

Or it can just be a small detail that you've just never talked about because he didn't think people gave a shit.

But like anything, just one thing that you've never told anyone about your experience working on this movie.

I gained twelve pounds.

Craft Services was my friend, and I had to go off a size of Joppers towards the end of the movie.

So there you go.

I love my well, a lot of people love Craft Service because it's like it's horrible.

It is the greatest, worst thing ever.

They start walking around with this food at like three o'clock and then we shot at night, so we shot all night long.

So and Craft Services, I mean, they were amazing.

Obviously, if I gained twelve pounds and I was running around, it probably wasn't twelve pounds.

That's probably an exaggeration, but I gained weight.

Yeah.

When was the last time you saw the movie?

Oh?

Oh, I know, I was about to lie.

Uh uh.

In twenty twenty three, they did a screening of it at the Montabon Theater on the rooftop and I was a special guest for that.

Oh so I saw that.

I saw them with it.

Yeah.

I think one of my daughters saw it for the first time then too.

What did she think?

They think?

Like, wait, what that's my mom?

Like like you were caught at one point, like.

What you know?

Yeah, that's awesome.

Ye oh, I love you and you know what it doesn't.

It's not that crazy to think about because like craft services, you're having constant like meals and everything you want to eat, So of course you're gonna park me guy.

Just the meals.

They walk around with snacks, like they make chocolate chip cookies and cappuccinos and popcorn balls, and like you grow up thinking, oh, I'm rude if I say no, And I used to say, how are actresses thinned?

When all you do they're just feeding you and you're and if you've never made a movie, it's hurry up and wait, yeah, get you in makeup, get you in the Then forty five minutes it's for lighting, and there's smoke machines into this and then that, and then you're actually on the set for like forty five seconds because you say three lines of dialogue and then you go away till they do the next setup.

And then they're just feeding you while you're sitting around doing nothing.

So it's glamorous.

Yeah, it's so glamorous.

You're eating popcorn balls, you're waiting.

My weakness is chocolate chip cookies, like I know, and like.

This woman made these chocolate chip cookies with walnuts in them.

With a sprinkle of cinnamon that you were like, is this is my office the greatest thing ever?

And you're like one, I'll take ten, and then you go get the big old glass of milk and you're off to the race.

Yeah.

Oh my god, that sounds like heaven.

It was really.

People say, what's the greatest part about being an actress?

Somebody does your hair, your makeup and they feed you.

Yeah.

I meant to talk.

For a couple of minutes, and then they fix your hair, your makeup and they feed you more.

Wait, your hair looks beautiful.

Yeah.

Well well I didn't even have anybody to do it.

You're like, yeah, wow, well, Carrie, thank you so much for taking the time with us.

We've had that.

You are so much fun.

Like I seriously, we like I want to go and like hang out.

Oh I feel like throwing.

We'll talk off camera, man will go axe throwing.

Oh my god, I.

Want to go to that slasher's place now you mentioned it.

Oh my god, you'll jump in my jeep.

We'll all go together.

We'll make a party of it.

That sounds amazing.

Oh my god, I said it.

You guys all you people just heard what they said, right, they no take sea vaccies now.

Yeah, really very good accent.

He was.

He is really good because he was at my birthday.

Maybe it's my gay limpris.

Who knows.

No, you got to keep that ship square.

I didn't with the big acts last night.

I was like the first time I did, it was like a bullseye bullseye bulls.

Yesterday I was like, like, you know, you're trying to oppress some people.

They're like, yeah, you've got nothing, you got no game.

Early then they gave you the big old double handled.

I was doing this, I was like, Oh, there's my party, that's my jam.

You know what I think is funny is that they limit the amount of drinks you're allowed to have like while doing it, at least at the.

Place I want to.

I don't mean I don't I don't drink, but like, you know, drink a non alcoholic being our diet coke.

But because you know, when you're handling weapons together.

You get exactly So my birth there was like, okay, we get like two drinks each.

And I totally understand why because we're holding axes.

Yeah, when you're holding a weapon, like you know, you don't like, oh you get all I love you know.

I got you get all Jason is.

I don't ask Jason.

I stab him.

So I was a little out of my out of my you know, my weaponry.

Did you get the Yeah?

Did you get to keep the dagger?

No?

Got it?

I try to steal one of the mock ones.

But that's actually real quick.

That's a really funny story because when Steven Williams first threw it to me, I was holding the baby and it was real knife that he threw and I was like, hey, you know what, we're gonna put the baby down.

So then you used to be turned around to put the baby down.

Benny throws it, which was I was very, very lucky that my eyehand coordination is as good as it is, because I caught both of them on the first try that I couldn't catch them again.

Oh good they God, I have to.

Catch them like this, right, I have to catch it past me and then you know there's glass and one of those broke one of the windows right away, right into the window, and we're like, okay, that's a problem.

Well what if you would so it was a real knife you had to catch, Well, what if you would accidentally grab the blade part you would have sliced your hand.

Like anything from I'm just saying, you know, there was a reason I dated a quarterback in high school.

I got real good with the you know, real good to catch the things on.

But yeah, no, it was well, there was like these are the things that you go exactly exactly what would have happened if she grabbed the blade instead?

But no, we thought that one.

Throw like, we're good, she'll catch it.

Finger off, It's all right, she's.

Got nine others.

Don't miss, don't go, don't miss.

And I'm like, oh, okay, you know, and I mean like they tossed it like in a way that I could create.

I mean, we practiced with a piece of wood.

I didn't even think about that now I know that.

I mean, that's the first thing I would think about.

I'd be like, no, let's see the.

Actress and he goes, I'll do whatever, what do you what do you want?

I can do what I can catch it, catch it with my teeth.

Okay, catch with a double Yeah I know.

Well, yes, well, we definitely want to stay in touch at Carrie, And thank you so much again for your time for talking about all of this.

It makes our day to like get to talk to you about this movie.

We're big, big fans, so thank you such a big fan.

You guys a great day.

Okay, we'll take care.

We'll talk soon.

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