The biggest practice word they found was sixty feet tall and would weigh one hundred tons.

That's as much as fourteen school buses put together.

That means if you wish to come by and step on you, you'd be deeply impressed by him.

But it goes on in joke chapter forty and describes this creature behemoth.

Then you go to chapter forty one and describes an animal called Leviathan.

I did a video on called Leviathan, the fire Breathing Dragon.

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All right, everyone, I'm joined by a man who's been stirring the scientific pot for decades, doctor Kent Hovin.

He's known for taking on evolution time scales.

Global flood geology and the claim that humans and dinosaurs or should it say drag once walk the earth together, and as many believe, some can still be found, such as in Lockness, the Okanagan, the Amazon, and even the Congo.

Now, whether you agree with him or not, he's never afraid to challenge the mainstream narrative and he brings a firm conviction to every debate he enters.

All right, doctor Hobbind, welcome to the Codex.

Well, thank you for having me.

It's an honor to be here.

Excellent to add the honor is all mine.

Pretty excited to have you.

Know, I've watched many videos of yours.

Actually I first got introduced to you through TikTok of all things, and you know say, I've seen many videos and I've been intrigued and I thought i'd reach out, and you know, you responded back quite quickly, which I say, thank you.

I'm sure you are a busy man, but thank you for making the time.

So for those who don't know much about you, can you give us a little bit of a quick synopsis who you are and where you can be found as well.

Well, I'm right here behind the desk.

If you want to find me.

Let's see.

My name is Kat Hovend.

I've been a Baptist preacher of fifty one years.

I taught high school science and math for fifteen years.

I moved to Pensacola in January of eighty nine and started a ministry on science and the Bible.

We've made about forty five million videos and now DVDs on the topic of creation versus evolution.

We haven't been forty two languages.

When I first got started, I used to loan my videos out.

I learned right away Christians don't steal, but they do borrow and never return.

So I said, we sell them fifty bucks for the whole set.

When you're done, bring it back, get your money back.

Can't beat a deal like that.

So anyway, we just want to reach the world.

I've done three hundred and eighty nine debates against Atheis at universities and online about science and the Bible.

I believe the Bible is absolutely true.

God made everything in six days.

That's what he said in the Ten Commandments Exodus twenty and Exodus thirty one.

Well if you made everything in six days, well then dinosaurs had to live with Audhaim and Eve He made everything in six days.

So I defend the position that the Bible is true.

God made everything and he owns it, which means he makes the rules, and some people don't like his rules, and so they just deny he exists.

We'll see how that works out for him.

Judgment Day.

But run a bunch of channels.

They took us off of YouTube five times.

Finally we gave up, said okay, forget it.

Run all everything else.

Okay, wen, let's see Rumble and Facebook, and see tik tac and TikTok and Instagram.

We have our own our own show, can'top TV, our own app.

We just want to strengthen your faith.

I tell people, if you watch the videos I produce or watch my shows, hopefully when you get done, you're going to say, Wow, the Bible is true.

Then about a week later you're going to sit up in bed in the middle of the night and say, oh no, the Bible is true.

This changes everything, Yes, it does.

You better read that book and do what it says.

I just want to strengthen your faith in the Word of God.

If you're not, I'm trying to get you converted.

I'll tell you right up front I'm after you, okay, so don't be surprised you don't want to get you saved.

Number three.

If you're saved and you're not doing much for the Lord, I'm going to try to make you uncomfortable.

There's a war going on.

Soldier, pick up a weapon, do something.

If you can't shoot, carry bullets, take care of the wounded.

Every Christian should be doing something for the Kingdom of God instead of chasing Zelda or watching a bunch of grown men in tight pants fight over a ball.

There's a bigger world out there, folks.

There's a war going on.

So anyway, that's what I do.

We produce a lot of materials.

We go live every night Monday, Tuesday, Friday, seven o'clock Central time.

You can call in, take any questions you got.

I'll defend the Bible against all commers.

So there's all our channels.

Let's see.

And dinosaurs is probably my favorite topic because Satan is using them to turn kids away from God.

I'm sick of it.

I think Christians ought to be Pick up a children's book on dinosaurs, go to the first page.

It'll say millions of years ago.

Wait wait, wait, the earth cannot be millions of years old for probably forty or fifty scientific reasons.

It's the Earth.

Earth is about six thousand years old.

And the dumb things they teach are mind boggling.

They teach the kids in school that the layers of the Earth are different ages.

Stop and think for a minute.

How can those layers be different ages?

Where's the dirt coming from?

Is it coming from outer space?

Every speck of dirt on the planet is the same age.

Let's see.

I think I got Joseph.

I must have to hit a button or something.

Yeah, I taught our science fifteen years.

They teach the kids in public school that the layers are different ages.

I'm always asking them, guys, where's the dirt coming from outer space?

How can that dirt be different age than that dirt?

They say, well, that's the age when it was laid down.

Oh so, if I shuffle a deck of cards the top cards younger, is that what you're saying?

Come on, it's so dumb.

How people get tricked into believing something so dumb amazes me.

See if I take my little sand dart toy here and flip it over, it'll make ten or fifteen or twenty layers in a few minutes.

Are the layers different ages?

No, there's no such thing as a Jurassic Age, Triassic, Mississippian, Devonian.

It's all boloney.

I understand it really well.

All over the world they find petrified trees that are standing up, running through all these layers, connecting all of them.

How long does a dead tree stand around in your neighborhood for it falls over?

Yeah, it maybe maybe a couple of years at most, Yeah, yeah, at most.

Yeah.

So anyway, so I do challenge them what's called the mainstream media, which it doesn't matter to me.

Evolution is not science.

Evolution is a religion mixed in with science, and it's so thoroughly mixed in people think it's part of it.

If you teach against evolution, they'll say, oh, you're against science.

No, I love science, I taught it fifteen years.

I'm against evolution being mixed with it.

And they're always saying we can't have religion in schools.

Okay, well, then get evolution out of the schools.

You can teach anatomy, boys and girls.

This is the biceps, the triceps, the deltoid, the flexor the extender radio state.

All know the carpols and all that kind of stuff.

You don't have.

Evolution has got nothing to do with science, nothing at all.

But if you disagree, call into my show.

Go to doctor Dino dot com, d R, D, I and O and look at all the webs all these channels were out.

Pick one you like, and we'll take your questions live for the whole world to see.

Do you think I'm stupid?

Show the world how dumb I am in front of everybody.

I'm ready.

That is awesome.

I like that that you present these you know, the opportunity for discourse.

It's like, come on, you know, instead of sitting behind a computer and like like typing out some sort of comment, come and let's have a debate.

I think that is what this world needs.

And I agree with you with the theory of evolution.

It's a theory, you know.

I'm more on the fact of adaptation, not evolution.

There is some species that have adapted to their environment, you know, maybe grew bigger flippers or something like that, like the flippers grew a little bit bigger to move them through the water a little faster.

But that's about it.

Sure, and any adaptation that has happened has come in response to something that was already in the gene code.

They already had the genetic code to make a flipper.

They already had the genetic code to make a big flipper.

There's a limit, though, you know the whales got a flipper on don't all fifteen twenty feet long?

Do you think they'll ever get a flipper for four miles long?

Now, there's a limit in there someplace.

They've been working with dogs now for a year, trying to get the three hundred and thirty nine recognized breeds of dogs all the way from Great Dane down to a toy teacup chew waa.

Do you think they'll ever get a dog as big as Texas?

Never?

No, I bet there's a limit.

Have they reached the limit?

I don't know, and I don't care, but I bet they're close.

What about getting dogs smaller?

They got the tea cup chew wuahwa completely useless down here in Alabama using for bear hunting and the barrel di laughing because you don't have to shoot them at all.

So do you think they'll ever get a dog as small as a flea?

No, there's a limit.

This what the atheists refused to even understand, let alone admit.

Variations happen within the pre existing code, and they're limited by that code.

One couple could there's twenty children, okay, like the dugger's friend of mine them in Arkansas, okay, and all the children can be different, some tall, some short, some blonde hair, some brown hair, you know, but they're all human.

That there's a limit.

Rabbit's been trying to run faster for a long time to get away from the coyotes.

Why don't they grow wings.

It's not in the gene code, so they can't.

You can get a faster rabbit, but again there's a limit.

So anyway, this is what atheists do not unders either don't understand or won't admit.

I think they do understand it, but they don't like it.

Puts a limit on there.

And evolution is not a theory, it's a religion.

A theory has some evidence to back it up.

There's no evidence of any animal ever producing babies other than their same kind.

Twenty times in the first seven chapters of the Bible, God said they will bring forth after their kind.

I'm asking atheist all the time, can you give me a can you show me an example of one where that didn't happen.

They'll say, well, back in the fossil record, I hope stuff right there.

No fossils count as evidence revolution.

None.

When you find fossils in the dirt, all you really could prove is it died.

You can't prove it had any children.

You sure can't prove it had different children.

Why would we think a bone in the dirt can do something that no animal today can do?

This petrified plam in the closed position didn't have any babies.

I don't know.

How do you tell from a petrophied You can't.

So no fossil's count is evidence revolution.

It's not even a good theory.

It's a just to something.

It's a religious belief, and they're welcome to it.

I don't care.

You can believe whatever you want, but don't call it science and don't make me paid to put that in the schools for the kids to learn, because it's not science.

It's a religious belief.

Fantastic.

I like that.

I like that.

Okay, So let's get into the dinosaurs dragons coexisting with us.

Well, absolutely, In the Ten Commandments, God said he made everything in six stays everything you read Genesis chapter one and two, same thing.

He made it all in six days.

The Bible says nothing died until Adam sin Man brought death into the world.

Jesus said the creation of Adam was the beginning Matthew nineteen four, Mark ten six.

So before the flood came, the world was very different.

If you look at the chart I made from the dates given right there in the Bible, grab one here, okay.

If you look at Genesis chapter five, it gives all the ages of these people before the flood came.

Adam lived to be nine hundred and thirty.

How do you live to be nine hundred and thirty Temple?

Just don't die?

Okay?

But no, I think you were different.

I'll share with more than that.

Later after the flood you go to Genesis eleven, and there's more dates that are given if you add up all the dates in the Bible.

Plus we know Joseph was a vice pharaoh of Egypt and we know when that was so at historical evidence.

On top of that, the Bible clearly teaches the earth is about six thousand years old, not millions or billions, And it says in two Peter chapter three, at the end of time there would be people who would scoff at the Bible because they're willingly ignorant of how God made the heavens.

Put my slide up there, if you would, Joseph, see the original creation.

The Bible says there was water above the firmament, and the firmament, it tells us, is where the birds fly.

There was also water under the crust of the earth.

The Earth is the.

Lord's He founded it upon the seas.

Wait wait, wait, was the Earth built on top of the sea.

Yeah, the water was in the crust.

Today most of it's on the surface today.

Seventy percent of the planets underwater.

The Bible says, God formed it to be inhabited.

Well, how come today only three percent is habitable, seventy percent underwater, ten percent under ice caps and deserts.

A globe here.

I'm a school teacher.

I have visual I love it.

I love it.

Yeah.

So if anybody is watching this, I mean anybody listening on audio, you got to be watching on YouTube or rumble so that you can actually get the full effect of what is what is going on here today, because there's a lot of visuals that doctor Kins is providing for it.

Okay, the original Earth was very different than what we see today.

What we're living in is a junk yard compared to what Adam and Eve saw.

Okay, earth is seventy percent underwater.

That was not the case when God first made it.

The water was under the firmament, it says so in Psalm twenty four he founded it the earth upon the seas Psalm thirty three.

The depth in storehouses, the depth or the deep is always a reference to the sea in the Bible.

Okay, he stretched out the earth above the waters, so they used to be.

Most of the water that's now on the surface was in the crust of the Earth.

That's where the flood water came from.

The fountains of the deep broke open.

So before the flood came, the Earth had water under the crust, had a crust to walk around on, maybe ten miles I don't know.

And then they had a layer of air to Breathe called the firmament where the birds fly in the firm and there was water above that, probably ice.

So the creationists believed six thousand years ago God made everything.

Forty four hundred years ago, there was a flood.

Before that flood, things were very different because of that water above the canopy, above the atmosphere.

People live to be nine hundred.

If you had a layer of eyes two or three fingers thick.

That's what the Jews have always taught.

A layer of ice maybe ten miles up, squeezing all the air down into ten miles That would double air pressure at the surface, making breathing easier, making much larger birds could fly.

And we find fossils of everything that's gigantic compared to today.

Fossil grasshoppers two feet long.

They couldn't live today because they can't get enough air through their little spiracles.

And we cover all that in video number six of my series.

So the Bible says, in the beginning God created the heaven and earth, and Jesus said he created everything.

John one, the word was made flesh.

Well, Jesus created everything.

Then Jesus is got almighty in the flesh, which is what the Bible clearly teaches.

You say, homen do you understand that now?

But I believe it.

I've chosen to believe a lot of things until I understand them, rather than doubt them until I understand them.

Okay, I believe in gravity.

I've never seen it nobody has ever seen gravity.

What is it?

Give me a jar of it.

Nobody knows, but I use it all the time.

Okay, So Jesus said, the creation of Adam was the beginning.

At the beginning, he made them male and female, Adam and Eve.

And by the way, it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Atheists are saying, oh, there's more than two genders.

I said, hey, what guys, you believe there's more than two genders?

I will pay you twenty dollars to come milk our bowl.

I want a video you going over the fence.

From the beginning of the creation, God made them male and females.

What it says, Jesus did it so he should know.

So the Bible says man brought death into the world.

God made a perfect world, and we messed it up.

So reptiles like pterodacy, reptails like lizards and snakes and turtles never shopped growing.

They grow all their life.

So people live to be nine hundred.

What would happen if a lizard could live to be nine hundred?

I get fifty feet long.

Erect Dinosaurs were big lizards that lived with Adam and Eve all reptiles grow all their life.

They never stopped.

Now they grow through rates slows down, but they never stopped growing.

They grow for thousands of years, never shop.

Okay, I never.

Even thought of that.

That is fascinating.

It's so simple.

The word dinosaur means terrible lizard.

That's what it means.

So let's see wilder captive makes no difference.

Reptiles grow quickly until they reach maturity.

Then they slow down, but they never stopped growing.

Do some animals grow through out their life?

Yep?

True, kangaroos do that, and all reptiles do that.

Many fish do that, so a beavers never stopped growing.

So you can study all this.

So before the flood came, they're living to be nine hundred.

What happens to a lizard if he lives to be nine hundred?

The dinosaurs lived with Adam and Eve, they were big lizards.

After the flood, you see life spans drop off right away to four hundred, then two hundred, then one hundred, and today hard anybody makes it to a hundred.

So, if the Bible is true, and I believe it is, dinosaurs lived with Adam and Eve, So the question would be simple, did know what take them on the arc?

Well, they asked Billy Graham.

Were dinosaurs on the arc?

He said no, they didn't know.

His ark didn't have dinosaurs because they were dead, extinct before man got here.

Oh listen, I love Billy Graham, praise God for all he did.

But he's wrong about that one, and he knows better now.

Jesus said he made everything in six days.

Billy dinosaurs lived with Adam and Eve.

So people say dinosaurs on the ark.

Wait a minute, hope he kept the woodpeckers in a steal.

Okay, I don't know, but yeah, of course they were dinosaurs on the arc.

Notice, Noah was six hundred years old when he got on that boat.

He was probably smart enough to know.

Bring babies, just be sure to get a penguin out of blue one.

Okay, there's lots of reasons for bringing babies on the arc.

They're smaller, right, take up less realm, They eat less, they poop a lot less, they sleep a lot more, they weigh less, eat less, they're tougher.

You know.

Kids can fall down and bounce and get up and keep running.

Adults fall down and break or lay there for a while.

Okay, and you bring babies, because after the flood, they're going to live longer, and that's why you're bringing them to have more babies.

Of course he brought.

Why would you bring big elephants on the earth, bring babies, common sense, be stupid to bring big ones.

Why would you bring big giraffes?

Ring he brought, and he brought two of every sort, not two of every species.

Okay, there are thirty nine varieties of dogs today.

Noah probably never saw a chihuahua in his life.

Everybody would laugh at them.

What is that?

Okay?

They bring forth after their kind, after their kind, after their kind, to of every sort, they shall come to thee.

So they were big enough to come to Noah, to the arc.

So probably babies just in, adolescents, just done with, don't need mama anymore.

After they're kind, after their kind, after their kind, after their kind, to of every sort.

And only those were in is the breath of life, he says, specifically, all those in whose nostrils was the breath of life.

And though those on dry land, you know, Noah didn't have to bring fish on the ark.

They had plenty of water outside.

Okay, he didn't have to bring insects.

Insects don't have nostrils.

They breathe to their skin through spiracles.

After the flood, the insects would be still just fine.

They can survive on floating log mats and floating debris.

You know, go any place where there's been a flood.

When the water goes down, walk out in the mud.

Tell me the first thing you know it bugs.

You get attacked by them.

Okay, So anyway, fire ants can can survive rafting.

A bunch of them get together, lock their bodies together, and they float around.

See, Noah was in that arc for a year.

That does not mean the whole world was covered for a year.

Some parts might have only been covered for a couple of weeks.

How long would it take to dround everybody?

How long can you swim?

Maybe maybe a day at most, that would be it, you know.

Yeah, right, So here's floating garbage mats in the middle of the ocean.

Okay.

Forty five years after the trees were blown into Spirit Lake in Oregon, I called the guy yesterday who lives there.

He said, But Jovah, there are still tens of thousands of trees floating around in Spirit Late.

There they are right there.

The wind blows them to one end, blows them to the other end.

Google it spirit late.

This is forty five years ago when the volcano blew them down in there their log mats.

Insects can survive on floating log mats where people could not.

Couldn't survive for a whole year.

So there's lots of fish.

They don't have to be in the arc.

Whales don't have to be there.

They have nostrils, but they live in the water.

He said, bring us on land in whose nostrils is the breath of life?

I don't think it could be more clear.

So, no, we didn't take three hundred pairs of dogs.

He probably never saw Cheo Walwich took a generic dog.

Our dog, Nikki would fit.

We had when I was in Florida, this dog wandered up in the yard.

My kids fed him.

I kept feeding him for ten years.

I asked my friend of mine, what kind of dog is that?

He said, well, eser canardle He said, well what he said, Well, look at it, you can already tell what kind of dog it is, go blooded canard.

I guess probably the horse and the zebra had a common ancestor.

I wouldn't argue it looked like a horse, you know, four wheel drive, genuine leather, upholstery, biodegradeable exhaust, the whole thing tail at the back end.

So he only brought land animals.

He brought those with nostrils or no bugs.

Insects could five on floating log mats, no problem.

He brought babies, that's just common sense.

And he brought two of each kind, not two of every variety we have today.

Eighth, you say there's eight million species of animals.

Yeah, who decides when it's called a new species?

Who makes this call?

Yeah?

Okay, God made the kinds.

God told him no, how big to build a boat, so he probably figured it out ahead of time.

How many were there?

The estimates are now there are about eight thousand different kinds of animals in the world, eight thousand on land.

The head to go on the ark, okay, the ground, let's see out of the grounds, and made every beast of the field and foul of the air.

There were no fish or insects on the arc.

That's a whole another short so anything.

I think dinosaurs who lived with man they were taken on the arc as babies, and some may still be alive.

There have been hundreds and hundreds of reports of dinosaurs being seen in the last one hundred years.

They're mentioned all through history.

Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible.

If you read the Book of Job, and he uses the word dragon in the Bible, quite a few times, there were dragons, dragons, dragons.

That's because the word dinosaur hadn't been invented.

Probably the same animal.

I forget how many times the word dragon is found in the Bible.

I thought I had a list of them here.

And if you read the Book of Job, Job was a perfect man.

He had seven sons and three daughters, and he was very rich, and everything got stolen from Job.

Finally, Job, If you read the Book of Job, start with charting with verse thirty, Chapter thirty eight.

Job's talking to God and God said to Job, have you seen behemoth?

In the Book of Job, chapter forty, God is asking Job questions.

Job had just gone through a horrible time his life.

His four friends had turned against him, his wife turned against him, his kids all died, he lost all of his money, and he lost his health, and he's asking God, why is this happening to me?

I wrote a book on that topic.

Why on earth did God let this happen?

Right here?

I did a whole bunch of short stories about when people have tragedy in trouble it might help them.

You can check our website doctor Dino dot com.

Why did God let this happen?

Sometimes things happened to you and you don't know why.

You didn't do anything wrong.

But this was Job's case.

So God is asking Job questions.

In the middle of this, he said to Job and Chobe chapter forty, Behold, now behemoth.

What's a behemoth?

Well, we learned two things right away which I made with thee Job was there with Job.

Okay.

Secondly, he's grass.

He's a plant eater.

Some Bibles say maybe he behame Author is an elephantor hippopotamus.

No, I think Behame Author is one of these guys, a Patosaurus or a seat of sore bracyas or one of those guys okay, or maybe the blonde as horse who knows okay, yep, just have to talk to her kind of slow.

Okay.

It says he eats grasses an ox.

His strength is in his loins, his force is in the navel of his belly.

He's got a big belly.

People say elephants have a big belly, Hippos have a big belly.

Braccios horse had a big belly.

He's got a big belley.

Okay, so does he.

He moves his tail like a cedar.

Have you seen an elephant's tail?

Does that remind you of a cedar tree?

Not at all?

How about a hippo tails?

No?

You know, people before they make comments on the Bible, they should read it, you know, at least once or twice.

First, his bones are a strong pieces of brass.

His bones are like bars of iron.

He has big, heavy duty bones.

It's a Bracyosaurus towbone.

They had big toes because they had big feet.

A kid taking a bath in a bracias or footprint.

So the biggest bracty sword they found was sixty feet tall, and it would weigh one hundred tons as much as fourteen school buses put together.

That means if he was to come by and step on you, you'd be deeply impressed by him.

Okay, okay, let's see.

But it goes on in job chapter forty and describes this creature behemoth.

Then you go to chapter forty one and describes an animal called Leviathan.

I did a video called Leviathan the Fire Breathing Dragon.

It's in our topical series of tapes.

I don't see it here, but go on my website, Doctor Dino and just type in Leviathan the Fire Breathing Dragon.

You can find it.

So the hoven theory would be God made everything in six days, like you said, and dinosaurs lived with Adam and Eve.

They were big lizards, they were friendly.

After the flood, you read Genesis nine, God said, Noah, now the animals are going to be afraid of you, and you can go ahead and eat meat.

Now.

Up until the flood came, everything was vegetarian.

Let's see at the beginning, yeah, two five, So from the creation up until the flood.

During this time, all the animals were friendly.

The earth was mostly land and mostly habitable, and dinosaurs just lived with Adam and Eve, big lizards.

Then it changed because of that flood.

That crystal canopy that used to be protecting them overhead collapsed and fell down.

When the fountains of the Deep broke open, it probably launched rocks up there and shattered the couple inch thick layer of ice that used to be like a big greenhouse protecting the Earth.

Super cold ice is magnetic.

Very interesting.

The Earth has a geographic pole that we spin around.

Okay, we spin around the North Pole, but the magnetic North Pole is in Canada and it's moving around.

Okay, at the time of the flood, I believe the magnetic North pole was down here in Canada someplace.

So when this canopy up overhead got shattered, it would be sucked in and dump on the magnetic poles.

Because I I said, low temperatures is magnetic, and that's where we get our ice.

Age comes in very quickly.

At the beginning of the flood, it's snowing ten feet a minute, and the animals are buried, standing up with food still in their fill, still in their mouth, find frozen still standing there.

So yeah, I think the Bible says the scoffers are ignorant of the creation and the flood.

And if you want to understand dinosaurs, you don't have to understand what the Earth used to be like and how they live to be nine hundred years old, and then the mystery disappears, no problem whatsoever.

Okay, other questions, All right, No, that is fantastic.

So I think you're I think you're delivering this very very well.

You know, you're you're giving it quite a decent.

I don't know, I don't know.

I'm loving this, I really am, because this is something that has you know, I thought about many times, because there's so much evidence that proves that men in dinosaurs coexisted, but it seems to be scoffed at, like you said, you know, such as the tracks I believe in Texas.

Can you can you go onto that, the you know, the intertwining and the evidence of intertwenty of humans and dragons.

Right, there have been thousands and thousands of sightings of dinosaurs still alive today.

Now they're not as big as they used to be.

Roy Mackell University of Chicago wrote this book.

He believes in evolution.

Okay, he's a biology professor at the University of Chicago.

He heard rumors of a Patosaurus still being alive in the swamp Dinosaurs like this in Africa.

There's a swamp in Africa that is bigger than the state of Alabama and it's eighty percent unexplored to this day.

He went over there.

He said, look, I'm a scientist, let's find out the truth.

Afterwards, he wrote this book, A Living Dinosaur.

He said, folks, there are some small dinosaurs still alive in that swamp, and then he said, it's amazing they survived for seventy million years.

He's so brainwashed into believing in an evolution, he's not going to give up on that.

I tell people, if you caught a dinosaur and brought it back and put it in the Brooklyn Zoo, they would put a sign underneath it said, look at this poison girls.

This dinosaur survived for seventy million years.

It would never enter their mind to challenge their basic premise.

They would never even think about it.

They're not allowed to or they lose their job.

So on my video number three, we talk about all the evidence of dinosaurs that may still be alive.

Let's let the congos so while you looking at that, this then would disprove evolution because if these dinosaurs are still alive after seventy million years, why didn't they evolve into something else?

Why aren't they something else?

Then it goes and it just that glasshouse shadows.

Yep, there's no evidence for any of the claims of evolution.

How life could start from non living material, how the universe came into existence from a dot.

Come on, think about it.

Okay, where did the laws come from?

Where did the energy come from?

Where did space come from?

Where did time come from?

And it goes on and on and on about this topic.

So I think the Bible is absolutely true.

This behemoth says he lives in the fens.

That's the old English word for swamp.

Well, behemoth.

Probably this guy right here, maybe the brachiosaur or a padasaur.

There's that swamp in Africa.

Most Americans have no clue how big Africa is.

Here's what Africa looks like next to the United States.

It's huge.

Okay, that swamp, just a swamp, is bigger than any of those Yellow States.

Fifty five thousand square miles.

Congo was colonized by Belgium, took it over for slave labor back in eighteen eighty five.

This liquor wall of swamp is bigger than the whole state of Alabama.

The Congo River is so deep.

Some places are seven hundred and twenty feet deep.

That's a deep river.

Back in nineteen ten, they did an article said, our dinosaur is still alive and the African swamp, Yeah, some are still being reported in an African swamp in nineteen ten.

Nineteen forty eight Saturday Evening Post ran an article and said there could be dinosaurs still alive.

A big game hunter went over there hunting for trophy game, I guess.

He said he saw an anomhol, which could only describe a dinosaur.

The natives called it chippocally.

Do you tell me how much longer we can go and we'll book?

Okay, okay, for sure, for sure.

That swamp in Africa is most of it is impenetrable.

You can't you couldn't make it in there.

The natives claimed they are giant crocodiles.

They say, we are right.

Well here they shot and killed a twenty two footer.

That's pretty big crocodile.

Yeah, as a twenty four footer they killed in two thousand and five, that's a big crocodile.

They're just carrying a deer in its mouth.

That's in Athens, Texas.

Okay, there's one game board in Texas.

So yeah, reptiles never stopped rowing.

Roy Michael said he when he showed the natives a picture of an Apaddos horse, they said, oh that's vocally.

I don't get close.

He will kill you with his tail.

They claim they live underwater, stick their neck up, eat plants, and go back underwater, so they're very rarely seen.

There's a maloonbo plant.

Machel found footprints of him.

This is all from his book.

He believes in evolution, he teaches it.

But he said, folks, there's some dinosaurs still alive, and that's wad Why would that be so bad to say something like that.

In the mind of the atheist, They've already got their nice little worldview.

Dinosaur died millions of years ago, We're evolving from a monkey, and here we are, We're the king of the world.

It upsets their whole worldview.

Good it needs to be upset.

Why do you think that upsets this coexisting of the humans and dinosaurs, the human as dragons.

Why do you think we get such strong emotional reactions from that.

They have already been taught what they're supposed to believe.

The Earth is billions of years old, dinosaurs millions of years ago.

Don't question this or you will lose your job at the university.

And when somebody comes along with evidence, it frustrates them because their whole worldview, their paradigm collapses I asked an atheist one time in the debate.

I said, sir, if you chose to believe that the Bible was true and God made the world, would that change your lifestyle?

He was real quiet for a men.

He said that would change everything.

I said, Okay, have you chosen to believe in evolution because you really have some evidence for it, or because you like the freedom from God that it gives you and God's rules?

He said, I like the evolution theory because I'm horny.

I said, every male of every species from Teramites to Wales understands that one.

None of the women see them too, but all the men understand.

So that's not a reason to reject God.

Like duh, God made that too, you know?

Yep?

But I just could watch my video number three.

I cover lots of evidence of dinosaurs still living with I wrote a book claused you all dinosaurs.

On this topic.

There have been people have seen the Lockness Monster, the Lake Champlain Monster locally Mbembi, and the Congo Swamp.

I got a whole hour and a half video and it's in my series here and get the whole series for fifty bucks.

Doctor Dino dot com.

When you're done, watch it, copy it all you want.

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Dinosaurs in the Bible.

Video three.

Video four is about lies in the textbooks.

All right, there are thirty or forty some lies in our books that they're teaching the kids as evidence revolution They've all been proven wrong.

I was debating one atheist.

I showed all the lies in the textbooks.

He said, folks, mister Hovan's right, these things aren't true.

But he said, I got a question for you, mister Hogan.

If you take all this stuff out of the textbooks, what are you going to replace it with?

I said, folks, what he's very trying, very hard to not say is this is all we've got for evidence for our theory.

And if you take this our evidence out, you got to find more evidence for our theory.

I said, I just think your theory stupid.

Just take out the lies, and if you have nothing left to your prairie theory and you're standing there naked, okay, that's your problem.

Get a new theory.

Well, I know, I know we're coming to an end here, Doctor Kent.

I want to say thank you one last question before we just wrap this up.

And I'm sure you know this off the top of your head.

How many times is dragon mentioned within the Bible?

I would say thirty or forty.

Uh the word dinosaur hadn't been invented, and King James time that we can google that real quick for if you want.

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Did you find the number Joseph, Yeah, thirty five times dragons just mentioned.

Here we go, There we go.

That's that is.

I think that's very important.

I think that is a very important thing to come up with, Doctor Kent.

I want to say thank you again so much for making the time.

I know we're a little bit rusher.

I would love to do this again in the future and we can, you know, pick up where we left off.

Sure anytime, rather come on that right.

Thank you so much.

I really appreciate that.

Okay, fantastic, fantastic, thank you.

Thank you, Ry.

I appreciate it all.

Right, thank you, all right?

Everyone?

That was doctor Kent Hovind.

Wow, I'm a little tongue tied here.

I want to say thank you for him for making the time and you know coming onto our show.

And uh, I know it was a little bit of a rushed interview.

We're going to have another one here in the future.

Of course.

We just had some technical difficulties, so we'll fix that up next time.

But uh, what do you guys believe?

Do you believe that we coexisted with dinosaurs dragons?

You know, that's something that is extremely like it really throws a curveball in our paradigm.

It really throws this you know, this change and what.

Do we do with that?

You know, in reality?

Does it change anything?

Like he doctor Kent was saying, It's like when is it change any reality?

Now?

If you know this in the past, that technically that it doesn't change anything, But it begins to get you to start asking more questions like why why don't we talk about this?

Why is this truth being hidden from us?

It's very an interesting question to have, you know, and it goes with just about anything that I uncover.

There's always it's always covered, you know, and we have to uncover these truths and we find out that we're being lied to continuously.

Now why would that be, Because then it actually rejects the Bible, rejects God, and that's not who we are.

You know, we have to start questioning everything.

There are so many things out there, you know, I've done some episode on conspiracies as well and their cover cover ups upon cover ups and why because the truth will set you free.

The truth will actually give you the answers you've been searching for.

But until then, we're always going to be under this, guys, under this cover of lies.

So we have to break three three, we have to break free.

And you know it's up to us to start questioning and to look into the truth.

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