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[SPEAKER_03]: Whether or not Santa is half-fishing, plus Miriam Webster's Word of the Year, and Pantone's Color of the Year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Merry Christmas.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Merry Christmas.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Merry.

[SPEAKER_00]: Merry Christmas.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, [SPEAKER_00]: His belly'd be jiggling like a bowl full of jelly.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm thinking more along the That woman, time to jingle your bells.

[SPEAKER_01]: What is this suckama, leekama, suckama, stropama, suckama, leekama, cac, it's the zone and it goes, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, very you very her very of the moment.

[SPEAKER_03]: I follow her on TikTok and you know what she's a delight She's like she she revels in it, you know, she's like yes I have a past yes, I'm a Christmas queen Does she teeth all around Thanksgiving like Mariah?

[SPEAKER_03]: I would say more so than Mariah [SPEAKER_03]: Shijitaz, shitaz, what?

[SPEAKER_03]: What's that in thought?

[SPEAKER_03]: What is thought?

[SPEAKER_03]: To free?

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's all the same.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if you de-thaw, are you de-thawing, de-freezing, de-thawing, listen, the English language is complex.

[SPEAKER_03]: Would you rather thought in de-thaw or he-he-in-ha-ha?

[SPEAKER_00]: Would you rather have a gay son or a thought daughter both twins or a death?

[SPEAKER_03]: D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- [SPEAKER_03]: thought of the thought of bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged a bagged [SPEAKER_00]: Mary I didn't hear a Mary I didn't hear a single person say slop this year.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, like how like AI Slop is is prevalence.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's in fact I don't you don't know about that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, junkie, like, you know, AI written books.

[SPEAKER_03]: Slop includes, according to Miriam Webster, absurd videos, off-kilter advertising images, cheesy propaganda fake news that looks pretty real junky AI written books, work, Slop reports, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Slop is everywhere.

[SPEAKER_03]: Slop is taking over social media.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, brother.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, how, um, do you know about dead internet [SPEAKER_00]: no.

[SPEAKER_03]: Dead in our net theory is basically that like there's there's not as many people on the internet as you would believe from how much you interact with others.

[SPEAKER_03]: You're basically just interacting with a whole bunch of bots and if you open any given thread, it's just bots talking to bots.

[SPEAKER_03]: The internet is dead.

[SPEAKER_03]: Rep.

Why didn't we nominate it for cycle ghost of the year maybe next year early contender for cycle ghost of the year Yet no, Slop is the language the dead internet theory Articulate why why did Slop is the language remind me of Greece is the word?

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, speaking of Greece is the word.

[SPEAKER_03]: I saw, I saw, maybe it was a dream.

[SPEAKER_03]: I saw John Travolta.

[SPEAKER_03]: I need to ask my mom because she's, you know, her fingers are on the pulse of John Travolta.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's [SPEAKER_03]: Well, well, Roger Volta is on a Christmas commercial.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's Santa, but he's doing grease lightning.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't even want to Google it because I don't want the slap to take over grease lightning.

[SPEAKER_03]: John Travolta, Santa?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, when it comes to holiday commercials, [SPEAKER_00]: I want the classics.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want the Hershey Kisses as Christmas bells.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want I want the M&Ms to be all he does exist.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's all I want.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I guess guess what the John Travolta greased lightning Santa commercial is advertising.

[SPEAKER_03]: You'll never guess 405 cleaning spray.

[SPEAKER_03]: Close.

[SPEAKER_03]: Capital one.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love capitalism.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Santa Santa's all by my presence with a credit card.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: He says He says quote this slay could be frost-domatic Tinsalmatic 1.5% cash back-o-matic.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I want to die.

[SPEAKER_03]: It is [SPEAKER_00]: Does John Travolta as Santa kind of look like your stepdad?

[SPEAKER_00]: And if so, would it make your mom more into it?

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, if my stepdad put on a weave, it's, it's like beyond shoulder length, luscious white hair.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's, it's, it's Santa bald.

[SPEAKER_03]: Not in capital ones universe.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's Santa bald, IRL.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is that why he has a hat on all the time?

[SPEAKER_03]: Hat fishing.

[SPEAKER_03]: You familiar?

[SPEAKER_03]: I get hurt of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think Santa might be hat fishing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Why to Santa where?

[SPEAKER_03]: Why to Santa where his hat so often?

[SPEAKER_03]: It's honestly Santa's cap is kind of giving its part man with a candle walking in the 1800s in his 90 gown.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it's part, um, could be, uh, uh, perhaps some type of bonnet to, um, house a lot of hair.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's long.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's got kind of room.

[SPEAKER_03]: So did you say Santa no cap?

[SPEAKER_03]: Santa no cap?

[SPEAKER_03]: It's giving [SPEAKER_00]: That means I'd be telling the truth, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be telling the truth, no cap.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, well, I thought it was like when in punctuation and you're like, no cap or cap to let her on that, on that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, not capitalizing your letters, call that anti-capitalism?

[SPEAKER_03]: Dang, right at them?

[SPEAKER_03]: Zing, write it down.

[SPEAKER_03]: Other, other contenders for Word of the Year.

[SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to know them for Miriam Webster?

[SPEAKER_03]: They say, Jerry Manders.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that that seems a little old.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's kind of big right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, every year is big, but you know, every year the Republicans are in control, it's a big word.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, it's one must, at this point, one must gerrymander to unjerrymander the country.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, if we want any democracy, I guess you have to play by the rule book, they're playin' by.

[SPEAKER_00]: Both Miriam Webster and Jerry Mander are good drag names right at town.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right that town.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's actually a duo right there Miriam Webster and Jerry Mander.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sure Jerry Mander is a great drag king name.

[SPEAKER_03]: I throw it the town hold on [SPEAKER_00]: No listen Jerry is a girl's name haven't you seen survivor Jerry man.

[SPEAKER_00]: The original black widow.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well first of all having you seen strange little candy Jerry blank haven't you seen big brother 10 Jerry You're right You're right you're Absolutely right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh honor It was that the guy with the purple heart fuck that dude Low honors [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, have I told you my latest drag king name idea stand now he leg like thank you leg.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what about Willie nilly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I like it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, for a boy for a boy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they are them a drag king drag queen drag thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't matter.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Other contenders for word of the year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so how are you about to put touch grass as word of the year when it's this feels this feels like AI Slop feels like they They are ready to end the new year.

[SPEAKER_00]: They've already got their out of office sent their circling back in January at this point They have asked AI to pull some warp buzzwords grow.

[SPEAKER_03]: I like it when a guy circles back.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know something [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_03]: Another word of the year performative.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Terrific.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, as they know, it was, they must be listening to the pod.

[SPEAKER_00]: As they know, that was a mutable word of the year, nominee.

[SPEAKER_00]: 67.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_00]: Look who's copying who?

[SPEAKER_00]: Concave.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's send Miriam a cease and desist.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now hold on, hold on, hold on.

[SPEAKER_03]: This next one.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna try to pronounce it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Lake Sharga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga, Gaga.

[SPEAKER_00]: What?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_00]: How I know you're unwell, but what was that?

[SPEAKER_00]: What was that?

[SPEAKER_03]: I was saying, James.

[SPEAKER_03]: Eleccanaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminaminamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamam [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Googling, keep speaking.

[SPEAKER_00]: Lake, shargo, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Massachusetts Lake is often cited as the longest place name in the U.S.

Oh, so it's real.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sound it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell because now when I Google things, it gives me a shitty AI overview at the top.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, it's over.

[SPEAKER_03]: They want us to believe it's over, and it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: But unfortunately, we have to resist.

[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of resilience, are you going to talk about how how the pantones color of the year was white?

[SPEAKER_03]: It was not whites.

[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe you're white.

[SPEAKER_03]: I cannot believe you are deliberately spreading misinformation.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, was it egg shell?

[SPEAKER_03]: No, flake.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was something like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let me look, hold on.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was not white.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was, it was cloud dancer.

[SPEAKER_03]: okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and actually, and actually, that's for next year.

[SPEAKER_00]: When do they announce this?

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you're right.

[SPEAKER_00]: The 2026 color of the year is Pantone's Cloud Dance.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's 2025 was Mocha Moose.

[SPEAKER_03]: Honey, Mocha Moose.

[SPEAKER_03]: Mocha Moose, going from Mocha Moose to Cloud Dance is definitely it's on grade.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's...

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's not good.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: The color of the year doesn't exist in the vacuum.

[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, the whole point of it is that it doesn't exist in the vacuum.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so to say that the color of next year is going to be white, it doesn't feel good.

[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't feel, I want to, it feels a little, you know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want this, I want to find every color back all the way to 20 or to 1990 when it came out, but this website's only going back to 2020.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not even Wikipedia, has it?

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.

[SPEAKER_00]: In 2020, it was classic blue.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: In 2021, it was ultimate gray.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I do like 22, very peri, very peri, very peri.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, very peri.

[SPEAKER_03]: And what does that mean?

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, color, tell me the real word.

[SPEAKER_03]: What color that is?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's peri.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a lilac, like a lilac.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, 2023, it was Viva Magenta.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's nice.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like Magenta.

[SPEAKER_00]: 2024 Peach Fuzz.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you find, did you find all the way back to 1990?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm, I'm not even looking for that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, baby, let me find it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: What's the point of doing the color of the year?

[SPEAKER_03]: As it's supposed to predict the trends of what will be in advertising or in fashion or in design, or what's the deal with it?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, let's see color of the year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a secret meeting of the representatives from various nations of colored standard groups.

[SPEAKER_00]: After two days of presentations into debate, they choose the color of the year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: The selected color connects with the zeitgeist.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's supposed to predict, predict what.

[SPEAKER_00]: If it sees a shadow long winter, [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I feel like this shade of white, I would have been Cloud Dancer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, Cloud Dancer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe like in the early 2000s, when the iPod had just come out and that was the big color of the only color you could get of an iPod, like it may be that could be, you know, an applicable color of the year.

[SPEAKER_03]: It just feels a little, I don't know, you know, and, um, no way, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, 2000 was serulean.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: What year did you graduate at high school?

[SPEAKER_03]: 2007.

[SPEAKER_03]: Chili pepper.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you better get into that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I just don't like, I don't, they picked true red one year.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was not could not have been a good year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Nasty.

[SPEAKER_00]: Nasty.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I don't really like the colors.

[SPEAKER_00]: They pick a lot of the time.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you can't win them all in my right.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, designers, I'll tear it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Here what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, speaking of the Grinch.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is that his job, his name, or his ethnicity?

[SPEAKER_03]: The Grinch.

[SPEAKER_03]: He, I think it is, first of all, Grinch is a noun.

[SPEAKER_03]: That is who he is.

[SPEAKER_03]: Is it a, yes?

[SPEAKER_03]: Is it a, a proper noun?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's capitalized.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's a no cap.

[SPEAKER_03]: No cap.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, cap.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, cap.

[SPEAKER_03]: I do believe the Grinch Grinch is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he had a pinch to grow a grandchildren.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean.

[SPEAKER_00]: That grinch grunch.

[SPEAKER_00]: You got that that grinch granched all over.

[SPEAKER_00]: Does the grinch like grinch?

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, cool, cool grinch gritos.

[SPEAKER_03]: Cool grinch gritos.

[SPEAKER_03]: I believe he does.

[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, is it his ethnicity?

[SPEAKER_03]: I, uh, if it is, then I fear that [SPEAKER_00]: Was there was there was he alone other were there others like him.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, but like if an entire town bullied me as a toddler to the point where I had to flee [SPEAKER_03]: So where I had to seek refuge in the mountains, perhaps I would not let them celebrate their little holiday every year.

[SPEAKER_03]: Perhaps I would grow a little bit resentful and maybe even steal their holiday one year.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, why did they bully him, ugly?

[SPEAKER_00]: Ugly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Ugly, they, yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why was the Grinchus bullied because ugly?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, not because of, no, no, not because of ugly, but because of beauty standards.

[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't ugly.

[SPEAKER_03]: He just didn't meet their beauty standards.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, the whole village.

[SPEAKER_00]: Grinch.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who?

[SPEAKER_00]: Who's Grinch?

[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't there, wasn't there a baby Grinch in the Jim Carrey movie?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who birthed that?

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's similar to maybe wicked, where there was a, there was some type of, maybe, oh, the potion?

[SPEAKER_03]: Who?

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the slutty is too in whoville?

[SPEAKER_03]: She showed her wholeville.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes, she gr- Her gr- She grunched, she grunched, got grinched by somebody.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I would actually like to know the origin of the Grinch, like why is he green?

[SPEAKER_03]: Why is he hairy?

[SPEAKER_03]: Some people just are, you know?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying, but like, but back here, some people have it, some people don't.

[SPEAKER_00]: Back here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I sided with the Grinch.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think 2027 color of the year, Grinch.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was Grinch and franchiseed.

[SPEAKER_00]: They had, in 2017, they had a pretty Grinch color for color of the year, but they called it greenery.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, girl.

[SPEAKER_03]: No.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, that simply won't do.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what else do we got?

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I was driving the other morning.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: And pedestrians beware.

[SPEAKER_03]: And who do I see a somewhat near the pink wall?

[SPEAKER_03]: Somewhere between the pink wall and the green.

[SPEAKER_00]: Close.

[SPEAKER_03]: Somewhere between the pink wall on Melrose in Los Angeles and West Hollywood.

[SPEAKER_03]: Somewhere between that and Fairfax High School, which famously houses the Fairfax flea market.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have a question.

[SPEAKER_00]: is not the pink wall an entire pink building it is but it's you know the nobody's taking a picture in the front they're saying a picture in the parking lot which is where the pink wall was I had how do you how do you think the other three walls of that structure feel that is a great question.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, whenever I want to picture with them, I recently watched the 2014 YouTube rewind.

[SPEAKER_03]: They, they unlisted all of the rewinds.

[SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget what they took from you.

[SPEAKER_03]: They want to rewrite history.

[SPEAKER_03]: They said the rewinds never happened.

[SPEAKER_03]: They rewinded.

[SPEAKER_03]: They rewound the rewounds.

[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I was watching the rewounds.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was watching the 2014 one and they had a whole scene in front of the pink wall.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, wow, that is really of the time.

[SPEAKER_03]: Do you have the unlisted links?

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you think you can, oh, you can think you can out do the doer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh [SPEAKER_03]: Wendy Williams in the gay bar.

[SPEAKER_03]: She backs out.

[SPEAKER_03]: She drives down the road.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, Wendy Williams saying, so I walk into a gay bar and in who do I see Abby Lee Miller in her wheelchair.

[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, I see on Melrose, the stars name them.

[SPEAKER_03]: The stars of heated rivalry.

[SPEAKER_03]: Star crazy star crazy not actually I mean not the two main dudes, but the Russian one Ilya Ilya Ilya Ilya Ilya Ilya Rosinoff Rosinoff and the one America's asked did you hear okay Well he's got Russia Russia's ass doesn't he he's American oh I'm Ilya's not American is he?

[SPEAKER_03]: in real life.

[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I saw Ilya.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's his real butt.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a, that's not Slap.

[SPEAKER_00]: Girl, I was Slap all over.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would not.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hockey players stay caked up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Ilya do their like, you see when they stretch on the ice and like hump, it's crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's not super, it's crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll send you a video.

[SPEAKER_03]: I saw Ilya with Scott Hunter.

[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know who Scott Hunter is?

[SPEAKER_03]: He loves a smoothie.

[SPEAKER_03]: The smoothie lover.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the the man who comes in for a daily smoothie.

[SPEAKER_00]: Are you all caught up?

[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm one episode behind.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like this hard to keep up with it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you saw the but you saw the smoothie episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes I thought that looked a little watered down Absolutely As somebody who makes smoothies Near daily I said that out loud while watching.

[SPEAKER_03]: I said that is a very watery smoothie.

[SPEAKER_03]: They need to be adding that [SPEAKER_03]: Frozen something frozen needs to be in that like it could be a frozen berry You can really get away with no ice if you have frozen fruit, but that was maybe that was a juice That's a juic of giving.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was giving.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was giving.

[SPEAKER_00]: Very peri paint in a cup.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh And now we set it and how we set it and and that that little twunk had the audacity to be like Well, when I make it for me, I put up banana and bitch [SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean you don't put a banana in it there needs to be a banana in every smoothie and I'm sorry to say it is no, but it's nobody wants it But it's the case.

[SPEAKER_00]: You see that you need you need the you need the thickening agent the thickening agent.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get thickening Yes, well, I saw the two of them walking around West Hollywood and I about what were they doing walking around West.

[SPEAKER_03]: They were crossing they were crossing a street [SPEAKER_03]: Damn, I know, I was on my way to Costco.

[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, so that did you give him a little beep beep to two?

[SPEAKER_03]: No, but I yelled at the passenger in my car.

[SPEAKER_03]: I said, that's the heat of rivalry boys.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I almost swirved and dwarved.

[SPEAKER_03]: Damn, so I tweeted about it.

[SPEAKER_03]: and I saw you I saw you know I did not tag them I did not post that I saw them and I did not post where they were because I was not about to dox them and I didn't post at the moment that I saw them because I didn't want to dox them I posted later that evening okay and I said I saw Ilia rose and often Scott Hunter walking around west Hollywood together this morning and and then I walked away then the next time I got on Twitter [SPEAKER_03]: Honey it walked away.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really walk away from your keyboard.

[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't realize there's a there's a heated rival refandom and they found my tweet and the shippers are shipping We're on adult women Heated and seeded Honey, oh, I like I like heated and seated.

[SPEAKER_03]: They were they were Where were they what were they doing?

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, oh, oh, oh, this is proof.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my shippers shipping [SPEAKER_03]: But the most shocking reply was somebody replied with screenshots of the guy who plays Ilya the Russian who's a apparently American.

[SPEAKER_03]: Connor something, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Connor story.

[SPEAKER_03]: They have since found his Twitter, they have found his Twitter, okay, okay, from when he was, we all have a digital footprint.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, from when he was but a child, I don't know what year he was born.

[SPEAKER_03]: Connor story, Connor, [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was aware of the year was serulean.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was born in 2000.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, in 2014, here he was tweeting at me in Zoe saying, watch this video, it will change your life with a link.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then retweeting my tweets and the link takes you to YouTube.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's the links are down.

[SPEAKER_03]: The links are, anyway, there are chances.

[SPEAKER_03]: that Ilia was at the summer party tour.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just say that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_03]: There is a possibility.

[SPEAKER_03]: We might have a single baby in our midst.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was at the service premiere.

[SPEAKER_03]: Here he is retweeting me saying life is chances that are taken.

[SPEAKER_03]: Did you say here he here?

[SPEAKER_03]: Here he, here he.

[SPEAKER_03]: Here he is.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: So uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh [SPEAKER_03]: The ripple effects, the impact, the YouTube rewind could have had on him, and what it could mean for the heat of rivalry universe have yet to be determined.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that other gay tweeting or talking about how he didn't think the sex and he did rivalry was how gay men have sex?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and I know who you're talking about.

[SPEAKER_03]: Jordan Firstman from the LLA.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and in the new show, I love LA.

[SPEAKER_03]: Both shows on HBO.

[SPEAKER_00]: correct.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the, the, the he-to-rival reason, like a Canadian affiliate craved, but then was sold to HBO in the US.

[SPEAKER_03]: Jordan Firstman, who is the gay on, I love LA said, I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_03]: I watched those first two episodes of he-to-rival, and it's just not gay.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's not how gay people fuck.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's so few things that actually show gay sex.

[SPEAKER_03]: They don't know what the camaraderie of gay sex is.

[SPEAKER_03]: I would say as somebody who has had, [SPEAKER_03]: gay sex.

[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen I love L.A.

Is there gay sex in that?

[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently there is a scene.

[SPEAKER_00]: I watched a couple episodes of I love L.A.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think I watched three maybe but I stopped and I don't think I'll go back.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's triggering.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's triggering for me to watch somebody work for an influencer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, I thought the gay sex in Hita rivalry was actually, [SPEAKER_03]: doing the job, doing the job, doing the job, doing the job, done.

[SPEAKER_03]: I thought I don't know if I've ever seen so many gay sex positions that get psyched through in one session in one scene that really encapsulated the experience of the experience.

[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I was I read that comment and I was like, well, I don't know what he watched because I bought it, but also the actor who plays Shane Hollander Hudson Williams, he replied to Jordan Firstman's comments and said, I love LA is a great TV show everyone should watch it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the only response you need.

[SPEAKER_03]: I loved it.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was here for it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was confused by his comment because I'm like, that makes me wanna know what does his gay sex look like?

[SPEAKER_00]: What are you up to?

[SPEAKER_00]: He had a movie a year or two ago where he had sex on camera, like real sex in the for the movie.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what pop it in?

[SPEAKER_00]: And you'll have, maybe you'll have to watch that to find out what real gay sex looks like.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what is it streaming on?

[SPEAKER_03]: that's all I have right now to be check it out on to be okay I'll report back and if if the sex is sexing you'll be the first to know I thought the gay sex and he'd arrive or he was well first of all I was like this is porn I'm watching porn without with this is soft core porn with a really nice camera [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen the latest episode.

[SPEAKER_03]: So are they going to get in seducing?

[SPEAKER_00]: They really want to talk about the reality of the reality or or Well, that's what I thought what I was watching the smoothie episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they were they were they interrupted a morning smoothie to to have ainal and I thought Ainal.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, you're both prepared for that, all right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, maybe that little 5-foot 5 smoothie twunk woke up real early.

[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, got down to business.

[SPEAKER_03]: Got down to business before you got down to business, before you got down to business.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's because I, I, if I'm going to do it, it's at a stranger's house the morning after our first sleepover.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not above it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am not above it, Mama.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you ever do stood at professional hockey players mansion legally I cannot disclose?

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay good to know Yes I got some other things on my list, but Do you want to talk about Nicki Minaj?

[SPEAKER_03]: Nicki Minaj?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, mega.

[SPEAKER_00]: No.

[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely do not I mean it is it is coming for daddy Gavin.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is a little [SPEAKER_00]: What happened in Nicki Minaj?

[SPEAKER_00]: What happened?

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was watching, uh, I've been rewatching Broad City from the beginning through and I've got to be close to the last season if I'm not already in it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just hard to tell because the episodes roll right when I do another.

[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, there was like a montage of a lot of having like a mental flash of all these like iconic powerful women and it flashed Nicki Minaj on the screen and I thought, oh, we'll need to edit that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, [SPEAKER_03]: There was a time when she really was that bitch and you know, like, she was, I don't know what season it was, but she was in the premiere of a drag race season 12 or 13 or 14 or something around then.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I remember being about like politics and how now more than ever we need to stand up for our rights in Nicki Minaj's there and she's like, [SPEAKER_03]: It did not, I mean, I guess it didn't age accurately.

[SPEAKER_03]: It didn't, it's not that it aged poorly, but like she aged poorly.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's really in the span of what five years has completely flipped the vibe.

[SPEAKER_00]: The misinformation.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the AI slot.

[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't know what's real anymore.

[SPEAKER_03]: It all started when she was saying, don't get the vaccine, my cousin's balls.

[SPEAKER_03]: It went downhill from there and now she's like posting about how Trump is the goat and to me.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so she's married to a sex offender registered and a murderer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I didn't.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that murderer murderer.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, why yes, he killed someone and went to jail for seven years for it or something.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, I didn't know that.

[SPEAKER_00]: You will, you know that was, it was, it was, it was manslaughter, which is, um, is that the accidental one?

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: The, not the non-premeditated one.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Gavin Newsom, um, was, it was defending trans youth.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then she starts going off about how, you know, imagine being the guy running on wanting to see trans kids, not even a trans adult would run on that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, blah, just being like a terrible, a terrible, [SPEAKER_03]: Grifter.

[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like she's grifting.

[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like, but like, what does she want?

[SPEAKER_03]: Is she in terrible debt?

[SPEAKER_03]: Is she looking for a pardon for her sex offender husband?

[SPEAKER_03]: Is she, what's the, what's the end game here?

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, as she run out of, I don't know, um, she ran out of Barb's and Ken Barb's is what she ran out of.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it feels a little insane to be anti-elgb [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, uh, period period period, but especially when like so much of your success is from the LGBTQBless community calling you queen.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it sucks.

[SPEAKER_03]: Another one lost the brain weren't I?

[SPEAKER_00]: I deleted my uh, and my Nicki Minaj 10 playlist office Spotify.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't be listening.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I don't have any more folders on the soundboard that are not canceled, you know, I'm running out of new year, new year, new soundboard.

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, shout out, anyway, so.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's sad.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's sad, but I prefer trans kids to Nicki Minaj.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the that on that.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the that on that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Did you watch the amazing race finale?

[SPEAKER_03]: I sure did.

[SPEAKER_03]: People want to know your thoughts.

[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a bad season all around.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was thinking a lot about it because as you know, we live in such a culture where you can't critique a musician's album and you can't critique a show because suddenly you're a fake fan because everybody has to just like eat up everything people put out.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, I will always be a fan of the amazing race I'll watch every season.

[SPEAKER_00]: Was this my favorite one?

[SPEAKER_00]: No.

[SPEAKER_00]: My glad they tried something different with a theme.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mix it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think a show like the amazing race, I think the route as as much as a character as the cast, I think the route was terrible.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the casting was great, but I also heard they had trouble convincing Big Brother players to do it, which is why it was skewed more to a lot of the more recent seasons of Big Brother contestants.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you think about it, two different, only two different teams ever came in first place, which I think is bad casting.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's no good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Two teams were way into another league, then I mean, technically a third team won a leg, but Jazz and Jag let them run in front of them because they didn't want to win as many legs as they won.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I will not count that as a win for Natalie and her sister.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, only two teams ever came in first place.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was a boring season.

[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't do enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was just different than what we raised.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like we had equalizers nearly every episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have equalizers.

[SPEAKER_00]: The teams that were in the front stayed in the front.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the finale there was never once a place changement in the finale.

[SPEAKER_00]: The team that left the airport in 1 second and 3rd finished in for 2nd and 3rd.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a boring finale for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if that's leg design or if just jazz and jag were so much better of a team than the other teams competing.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I heard, I mean, I didn't watch the season and I didn't watch the finale, but I heard that the final puzzle in the finale was, from what I read about it, you would find it to be like basic.

[SPEAKER_03]: Was it, from what I heard it was still in the blank?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a giant crossword puzzle, but they had all the letters there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, you had the letters to keep the crossword puzzle.

[SPEAKER_00]: You just had to drag and drop the letters to get there.

[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like a big puzzle.

[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like a lot of clues, and there were parts that people got tripped up.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, I don't know, the finale was in New York, New York is such a commutable city, and then we watched them ride in cabs all over New York, the whole episode, and that was boring to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know how to how to fix that because [SPEAKER_00]: They don't like to let contestants drive in the finale because of speeding and because the stakes are so high when you're raising for a million dollars But like to watch people lose essentially because one team had a really good cab and the other teams didn't it was just that all around terrible finale I thought in there Ben there Well, um we now have a [SPEAKER_03]: winner of both big brother and amazing race.

[SPEAKER_03]: Not the first, or is that the first?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is the first.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's been other big brother teams that have won the amazing race, but no other big brother winners have won the amazing race.

[SPEAKER_00]: Got you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm thinking of people who have made it to the finale of both.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yes, certainly.

[SPEAKER_03]: People in our season were in the finale of both.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, Nicole and Victor did not.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't make it to me like the finale.

[SPEAKER_00]: Rachel though.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like Rachel.

[SPEAKER_00]: Rachel right.

[SPEAKER_00]: She correct.

[SPEAKER_00]: Rachel had made it to the final with Brendan twice.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then she won big brother.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, but no winner of big brother and survivor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

[SPEAKER_00]: And no winner of survivor and big brother or.

[SPEAKER_00]: the other survivor enemies.

[SPEAKER_03]: So this is the first time we have a winner of two of the three.

[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think Jag has a chance to go on survivor?

[SPEAKER_00]: I sure hope not.

[SPEAKER_03]: It feels so inevitable.

[SPEAKER_03]: It feels so preordained, written in the stars.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you saw him, when you show up at the, on the boat for survivor, I mean, I guess easy target.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, you've already wrote $1500 here and a million dollars here, easy target.

[SPEAKER_03]: You need a reason to get somebody out first.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just it's just tough.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I of course I like like I said at the beginning.

[SPEAKER_00]: I will always watch all of the big brother or all of the CBS reality shows, but it's just like tough to watch how regularly they reuse and recycle all survivor and big brother players across the challenge across other CBS shows across traders and then they just shit all over.

[SPEAKER_00]: amazing race talent.

[SPEAKER_00]: They never tap those people to like rarely tap those people to do anything.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know what, you need to let's claim it for you right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: What are you going on into 2026?

[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going on?

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I think I mentioned it last time.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was an amazing race winner who finally won the most recent season of the challenge.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, please let this open your eyes that there are good, amazing race contestants out there that would do well on these crossover shows.

[SPEAKER_03]: So Corey cool on the challenge, 2026.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd rather be on survivor or a big brother.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would do the challenge.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: If I get my pick in my litter, I'll see you on the island.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Love islands?

[SPEAKER_03]: How to be a millionaire island?

[SPEAKER_03]: What does that call?

[SPEAKER_03]: How to be a millionaire island?

[SPEAKER_03]: What does that show that guy just can't solve?

[SPEAKER_03]: Gandhi, Dandy.

[SPEAKER_03]: What is the suitcase show?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[SPEAKER_03]: So you want to be a little or no deal or no deal or no deal.

[SPEAKER_03]: I, that's not talking about.

[SPEAKER_00]: They call it, Dandy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and the ideal or no deal.

[SPEAKER_00]: Island, it got canceled.

[SPEAKER_00]: I thought.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, it will be out because the guy who won the most recent season won $5 million.

[SPEAKER_00]: They can't afford to do another one.

[SPEAKER_00]: They fucked up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, and there you have Dandy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Dandy.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well, Merry Christmas.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll see you next week.

[SPEAKER_03]: Merry Chrysler.

[SPEAKER_03]: Happy Grinchments.

[SPEAKER_03]: Whoever is out there, however you celebrate.

[SPEAKER_03]: Good luck.

[SPEAKER_03]: Bye.

[SPEAKER_03]: Bye.