And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert.

I mean, come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert?

There is no such thing as an expert when it comes to bigfoot.

They know in an instant that you were in the woods.

There is no hiding from them, There is no being quiet or sneaking up on them.

As soon as you walk in the woods, you walk in their front door, thinking that you are going to surprise them.

You're only kidding yourself.

We have got to get it out of our heads that anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

The best way, in my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures right now is by listening to and talking to those that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and experienced them in their own environment.

We do what we do to try to bring awareness to this topic, to be an open door for somebody to walk through, to be able to share their story, a listening ear, a support hold for those who have had their own encounters with that which is not.

Supposed to exist.

We've got to open our eyes people, there is something out there.

All of these thousands of people that have seen something.

They're not all lined, they're not all crazy.

There are some very reputable, good people out there that have seen something.

Marianne, what's up, ma'am?

How are you?

I'm good?

How are you?

Sir?

Doing very very well?

Very well?

And before we get into it, don't want to warn everybody.

I don't know if you can tell from outside.

It's been raining all day, so I'm hoping that that won't interfere with the the reception or the covers, the service or whatever.

Maybe we can get through it without any issues.

Hopefully.

How you doing, man, I'm doing phenomenal.

And hay to everybody in the chat.

You know, my my brothers and sisters from other mothers.

You know, it's good to see everybody.

It's not been that long that we were all together, and it won't be that long till we're all together again.

That's right.

Yeah, we just hung out a Smoky Mountain conference and you are going to be speaking at my event at the end of this month.

Yes, I am, Yes, I'm fine.

That's a good he there.

Yeah.

I've been talking a lot to Chris over the last few days, making final preparations and getting everything lined up.

Chris has been with getting everything set up for the squatch out this year.

Can't thank her enough for everything that she's doing.

She's been great.

But yeah, looking forward to that.

How long of a drive is it going to be for you, Mariam?

Four and a half five hours?

So not bad?

Not bad?

Is it closer?

It's a little bit closer than the Smoky's all right?

Oh lord?

Yeah, Smokey's is a nine hour drive.

Oh shit.

Yeah yeah, And and we had to sit in Nashville for an hour because of clean up of the wreck, you know.

But yeah, it's only like four and a half five hours something like that, so it's not bad at all.

We can leave the house at seven in the morning and be there in the early afternoon.

So now, have you ever been to the LBO?

I have not.

I have not.

I've heard a lot of you.

That's going to ask have you ever heard anything about the LBO?

And if so, what have you heard?

Oh lord, I've heard all kinds of shit about that place.

I mean I've heard, you know, bigfoot stories, dog man stories, just creepy you know everything.

So I'm kind of I'm kind of excited because you know, I don't know what exactly to expect.

Oh, you know, I mean we're all just wasting our time because we all know there's nothing in the LBL.

Right, it's just a piece of land, right, Yeah.

It's a peninsula.

There's no way need walk you know, on the land to get there.

No, it's and you.

Know, Heaven forbid, maybe maybe it can swim across.

I mean no, I mean that's that blow people's mind.

No, we can't talk about them.

Too many.

There's too many people that visit the LBL every year for there to be any kind of cryptid creature out there.

Well, you know, they're the experts, not us.

I love stupid people.

If you're around if you're around stupid people, you're gonna life, you know, don't you don't people.

Or your head against the wall, one or the other.

I'm not sure of both.

Yeah, yeah, it's uh, this would be my third trip to d LBL, and God, I hope we have better weather.

Yeah, you guys have not had the best weather down there.

I'm not really sure.

I might be signing up for something, you know, you guys might be a bad weather magnet.

Everywhere else I go, we tend to have pretty good luck, but it's just some LBO.

Troy and I went, I think it was two years ago Troy's birthday.

We went, just he and I and camped out for a couple of days, and it rained for twenty three straight hours.

And that's not an exaggeration.

It started at midnight one night and it rained NonStop until eleven pm the next day.

It was terrible and we were in you know, we were in grass and mud and dirt and everything.

So, oh my god, it was we were soggy sons of bitches.

So what time of the year was that when you did that?

January?

Oh?

Okay, yeah, so it was it was still cold too, pretty sure?

Is January, toy?

Your birthdays in January?

Right?

He let us know.

And then.

And then last time was just it wasn't that long ago at all.

A couple of months ago, and we had that bad storm came through and almost killed one of your speakers.

Well, we're so glad the day that survived that.

I mean, we laughed, but we laughed.

Now you were not laughing, right, exactly.

Not laughing at the time because that looked really really bad.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, you know this time, I mean August, Yeah, I mean there could be storms anytime, but usually August it's not you know, August.

For September, it's not quite as bad, you know, not as likely.

So yeah, yeah, all right, guys.

I want to remind everyone if you have any questions from Marianne's not please give me a solid and put those in all caps so that I can get to them.

But you know, we we're mainly here Marianne to talk about your conference that you have coming up.

Tell everybody a little bit about what they can expect this year and when, where, and just who's going to be there.

Okay, not a problem, we can do that.

So we've changed it up a little bit this year.

We're having a VIP night.

This is the first year for that, and it is going to be at the Elks Lodge here in Ozark, and we are catering.

At dinner, we're going to be having a smoked you know, smoked chicken, smoked pork, you name it.

We've got it right.

I think we're going to have some ribs too, and we're going to after dinner's over, we are going to have a taping of a podcast.

What we're going to do is as everybody comes in for the dinner.

We're going to give them a note card and they get to write a question on it, right, and then we're going to have the speakers pull those questions out and they have to answer whatever it is in real time, you know, and we can kind of have a conversation about things like that, get it recorded, have some fun doing that.

You know.

That gives them all a little bit extra time with you guys that are going to be speaking.

And then Saturday, starting at nine am, is the conference and it is at the Relics Event Center in Springfield, and that's going to go till around four thirty.

And so we've got Da Roberts and he is a local writer and researcher here in Missouri.

We've got Shane Carpenter who is also local for us and he is a researcher here.

He's got the documentary into the four hundred on what is it on Amazon?

And Crime?

Yeah, I think it's on there.

And we've got David s again and he's down you know, in your neck of the woods.

He's the he's the forensic investigator and I'm super excited to learn all the things he's going to be teaching us.

So then of course yourself, you will be speaking, you'll be up there entertaining us, so you know, we're excited about that.

And then of course this year we've got RPG who's going to be in seeing and also he's going to speak that day too, so it should be very interesting.

And then myself and Larry Newman we're going to do a little promo for the BFR during all that time too, So it's going to be a full day.

You're going to learn lots of things.

You know, we invite everybody to come out.

Now, those tickets for those two events, you can get those on event right, and there's a couple of different ways you can do it.

You can do the VIP night by itself if that's the only thing you can come to, and there is a limited number of those because the place that we're having it is not very big.

And then the day of the conference tickets those are on event bright, or there's also a package deal where you can get the VIP night and the event ticket.

It's so there's three different tickets on event Bright.

And then so what we're going to do, like we've always done, is as soon as we're done with the conference, we're going to jump in the trucks and take off to the boonies to camp out.

So enough real magic happens people.

It definitely does, It definitely does.

We will be leaving straight from the conference and going out to private property and we are going to be out there Saturday night through Wednesday morning.

And that we've had activity every time we've been out there.

We've had something.

Every time we're out there, the homeowner has activity.

Sometimes it's just little things, but sometimes that's all it takes is that little stuff.

But so it's primitive camping.

We do have porta potties, we do have running water.

There is no electricity whatsoever.

So when you're out there, we're going to feed you two meals a day.

You're going to get a big breakfast and you're going to get dinner at night.

And we tell everybody bring your coffee cup.

We provide the coffee.

If you need snacks, bring your snacks.

You know, Now, those tickets, the only way that you can get those tickets are to come onto the Ozart Mountain Bigfoot pay Ozart Mountain Bigfoot conference page on Facebook and you have to privately message me because those tickets are also we don't do very many of those, and I think right now I have ten spots left for that nice.

Yeah, I'm about out of those.

So if there's anybody out there at all that thinks they're gonna want to go, they better get on it because we're down to about ten spots left.

Awesome.

Yeah, that's that's that's nice.

The you know, there's plenty of tickets left for the day of conference.

I'm going to have to check on how many is left for the VIP event, but yeah, I know, I definitely know that we're down to about ten spots for out there.

Okay, everyone about the date?

What was the date's Marianne?

Okay, So the dates for this are October.

The third is the VIP ninth October, the fourth is the conference, and we're leaving from the conference.

So on the fourth through the eighth is the camp out.

And now when we're out there camping out, we're going to do some things, so the speakers are you're going to be able to have one on one time with them.

You're also, like David has agreed to do some more teaching out there, casting forensics collections.

He's agreed to do a lot of that.

Sometimes one of our cook ladies.

Martha, she will do cooking in Dutch ovens.

You know, she has little of the little things of demonstrations of those that she does.

Then Brian, which we didn't talk about.

Brian's not speaking at the conference, but he is speaking at the camp out He's going to be reading some from his new book, Coda's Odyssey, and out there he's going to be talking about the sightings that he had in Washington.

So there's you know, there's a lot more.

If you do the whole complete thing, you just get so much more than if you just come day of conference.

But if you can only do day of conference, then by all means come to the conference.

But yeah, and speaking of Brian real quick, what I do want to offer him well wishes?

Uh you know, he what happened with Brian this past weekend, had to be taken in for emergency surgery in Pennsylvania.

Last I talked to him.

He's doing well.

He might even be home by now.

I haven't haven't heard from him today, but.

He was supposed to at home yesterday, I believe.

Okay, so I think he might be home today by now.

But uh, yeah, hang in there, buddy.

He the crazy thing is he was scheduled to have that have it fixed, this stot today today, you're supposed to have the surgery, and he made it.

It just wasn't fast enough, was it.

He got to penncyl You know, I was getting ready to speak and everything, and they stay tuned for more but the big Foot report.

We'll be right back.

I said, no, buddy, we're gonna go ahead and do this now.

So that uh yeah, get well, buddy, and can't wait to hang out with you again.

I always have fun.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, we always have fun, you know.

And you have to bring the yellow overalls, you know, that's just a requested part of it.

Now.

Yeah, I'll just go ahead and put those in the car.

Yeah, just have those ready to go.

One of these days, I'll get a picture because everybody asked me about that.

Oh my god, there'll be a picture this year.

I can't believe that nobody got a picture of that.

I can't believe y'all are just so fascinated with my overalls.

We've all threatened to buy our own and be standing out there waiting for you to come out of the tent.

You should Is it just that they're yellow?

I think that's part of it.

I think that's part of it.

Yeah.

You know, yellow, Well that's just not the typical color, you know, I mean it isn't.

When you come walking out with yellow overalls, it was.

Like, holy shit, Okay, you know me, I got to make a statement everywhere I go, right.

Right, I understand, I understand.

You know, we just caught us off guard.

We were not prepared for that that morning.

But yeah, it was I said it so many times, we talk about it so often that one of the most fun times I had was at that event last year.

And it's some of the coolest people that I got to meet, and it was just fun.

It was.

It was great to get out away by you don't have service, so you're not bothered by your phone blowing up every two minutes.

Uh, you you're not far from driving out if you need to make a phone call, check on your family or anything like that.

You're not far away from getting service, but.

You but you have to drive out to get it.

Yeah, yes, yeah, about ten minutes or so, I'd say.

But if you just if you just want to unplug and go out and hang out with just like minded, good people and go about Bigfoot and other stupid stuff.

You know.

It's it's a great, great time for it.

And I think that your a vent is very reasonably prossed.

And uh, I mean obviously because you sell out just about every year, right.

Yeah, the campout usually is right at capacity, you know, because like I said, we try not to take too many people out there, you know, first of all, to be respectful of the landowner.

But you know, I don't want to take fifty or sixty people out there.

I've been on Bigfoot outings that had that many, and it's it's ridiculous, you know, it's just not you can't go out and do anything with that many people.

And if we take what we're talking and she's like, what do we do if something runs in at us?

I said, there's not a damn thing we can do.

We can't get up fast enough to get away from it.

She's like, Okay, We're just gonna sit.

Here, you know.

And that's when Shane had the thermal and he was getting a heat signature in the trees that was somewhere about five and a half feet tall, and he was getting like a head and shoulders that was moving around up there.

And that's the same evening that we'd been growled at.

Part of the group had been growled at as they were going up the hill.

So we have no idea what it was, but you know, it's always so.

Good now that you bring that up, Marianne, remain for anyone that's watching to not that isn't familiar with like past expeditions that you've put on, talk about because you said you've had stuff happened every year.

Talk about some of the more memorable things that have happened, even if it wasn't last year the year before.

But what stands out to you that happened on that property.

Well, the very first year that we camped out out there, we did it a little bit different, you know.

I mean, we were constantly trying something different to get the exact right formula for this property.

But we'd been out there a few days and found out that so there's a gentleman that he lives on the property, and then the gentleman's son and daughter in law lived there also, and they're very off grid, you know, they're living off the land type of thing.

And they come along and tell us, after we've already been there two or three days that a couple of days ago, there was a flat of eggs stolen off the porch.

And it's one of those that you have to have, you know, you've got to have hands to pick this up and carry it or it's going to flop and fall.

Right, So there was two flats of them and one flat was stolen.

Now, there wasn't any mess, there were no broken eggs, nothing torn up.

It's just that that flat's completely gone.

Right, So it shows up, they come in and tell us.

The third day, it shows up up the road in the neighbor's yard with one complete row of eggs still in it, not broken, not touched.

Now, how do you explain that?

And that goes I've heard from multiple people interviewing people over the years like I have, how they will talk about.

Lead.

Bigfoot will come in and not take everything, not completely wipe you out of everything.

They'll take just something and leave the rest of it.

So you said there was two flats one.

Two flats, Yeah, one was left and one was taken, and I'm going why not grab both?

Right?

And if it was bears or coons or possums, they would have ate it right there, made a mess and made a mess of both of them, right, So yeah, it ends up in the name and the neighbor's like, oh the dog.

It's like, dude, really not.

Yeah, exactly before we move on, Gary Goody, Google just sent me this and it's not a great picture, but I thought.

You get a little bit of the gist.

There's not a great picture, but they're just yellow.

Calm down people, Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.

So, you know, that was one of the things that had happened.

So the last night of that very first year we had, the cook tent was out more in the middle of the field instead of being off to the side, and we had a this little storm came rolling in out of nowhere, right.

It destroys the cook tent and the cook ladies were camped out there by.

They had to abandon theirs and get in the truck.

I mean, it was just ridiculous.

For about thirty minutes, all hell broke loose.

Everybody's holding their tents down.

You know, it was just craziness, right, So it stopped.

You know, everybody's like, Okay, we're good.

Everybody kind of calms down.

Everybody gets back into their tents and goes to bed.

After this, so next to our tent, there was a lady parked her vehicle and then on the other side, Nonah Marty was in there with her and gosh, I cannot Christa I get I think was the other girl's name.

But anyway, so they're they're like paranormal researchers.

They're not even bigfoot researchers.

So Brandy, who was in the vehicle, she decided to sleep in there because she thought her bed was wet.

And she wakes up in the middle night she keeps hearing this light.

She said it sounded like metal going tin tink tink tink t t t you know.

And so she wakes up and she's hearing this and she can't figure out what it is.

And she's in the front seat and she said, she's got her blanket like pulled up to her nose, you know, that kind of stuff.

And she says, she gets to looking over toward our tent, and right behind our tent, she can see this figure standing and she can see its head and shoulders and she's probably ten to twelve feet from it, and she said, it's it's right behind our tent, right, And so she's watching it and she's like, I didn't know if I should get my phone out take a picture.

She's like, I didn't know what I should do, So she said, you know, I was scared to that.

So what does she do?

She pulls the blanket over her head and goes to sleep smart and I'm right, I'm like, are you kidding me?

Yeah?

But so I was asleep at that point.

I was exhausted.

So the next morning I'm getting up and everybody's kind of running around it and there was a buzz in the camp, right, And so finally I'm like, okay, what is going on?

And she's telling me that, and we basically Marty and I had to almost hogtie Daniel Perez to keep him out of the weeds because we could see compressions.

Right.

We're like, you're not going in there.

And we got Shane up and Shane was laughing.

We've talked about this later.

He goes, I was going to kill you because I knew there was nothing out there.

I just knew you all were full of it.

Right, So we get him up and we tell him what's going on, and he starts walking around.

He was able to track that thing all the way around the perimeter of the camp all the way around it.

It had walked all the way around it.

It went in between the porta potties, through the tents along the creek, up behind the t tints that were up on the hill a little bit, and actually came in through somebody else's tent and rummaged around because they had their tent, and then they had a canopy.

Well it was under the canopy rummaging around.

So yeah, it was just made itself at home after the storm, you know.

And it was like, I don't know, three point thirty in the morning when this started.

And luckily the people that were there had enough they either looked at their phone or their watch, and everybody could give us a time of when it happened, and we talked to all of them individually first, so nobody would have known what time was a correct time, right, All the times synced up with it moving around our camp.

So you know, you know, you talk about the lady that pulled the blanket overhead and everything, and I've talked about it a little different what I've experienced, but I've talked about it a few times, and I actually asked Doug Haichek about it one time when when I was on his show.

It's happened to me more than a couple of times where I'll be out on expedition, asleep in my tent, sleeping good, and something waked me up in the middle of the night, one, two, three o'clock in the morning.

And you know, what's the whole reason I'm there?

What's the only reason I'm there?

Too fine, big to look for a big fut But I cannot make myself get up to go and see what the hell woke me up.

I just it's not fear.

I'm not afraid.

I just it's like it's the strangest thing.

It's like I don't have the power or the ability to to just make myself get up and look and see what it was.

Well, that's like I've been out on this property multiple times, and last year that first night, you know, I wake up, I gotta go to the bathroom.

Well you know how far the I put the porta potties down at the end, right, and I'm like, I get up, and I'm like, I am, I don't know that I can walk that far?

Right, Okay, I'm gonna hop out here behind the tent, No big deal, right, nope, And I mean our tent backs right up to the creek.

I'm not sure how smart that is.

I mean, there's a fence there, right, but still, you know, first time I get up, go to the bathroom, No big deal, I'm good, right, I'm good, get back in, go back to bed.

Way up in the morning, I wake up again, I'm like, oh my god, are you kidding me?

Really?

Really, you know, And I'm laying there trying to wheel it away and that, you know, I'm like, no, I don't really need to do this.

No I don't need to do this.

No I don't need to do this.

Yeah, well, yeah, I needed to do it.

So I get up, same thing.

But when I step out of the tent, oh my god, it was such a completely different feeling.

And I'm like, oh crap, you know.

And so Robert always puts down a tarp and puts our tent on top of it, right, So this time I barely got off the tarp on the side of it because I was not going behind it for nothing.

I mean I was like barely barely off of it.

And the truck's right there, you know.

So I'm like, okay, the truck.

I got the truck here, I got a little bit of you know, I got a little bit right, and so I am in the process of what I need to be doing, and oh my god, there's this commotion on the other side of the truck.

Let me tell you what.

If I wasn't already in the process of using the bathroom.

I would have right, yes, that one real quick.

Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

Right.

So I am like, okay, I'm done, that's it, you know, getting back in.

About the time I get to the door of the tent, I realize it's my cook ladies like snoring, turning over and farting or something, you know.

But let me tell you what.

I wasn't standing out there with my pants down to find out what that was.

I did not know that.

Yeah, that's my biggest fear is getting caught out therapean.

Right it literally your pants down?

Yes, it's yeah, you know so, but yeah, just the the change in the way the area felt, you know, it was like there was something there.

Now was it right there?

Probably not, but it was there because there was a whole difference.

Because that first time that I got out to go to the bathroom, I stood there for a minute.

When I'm gonna walk down the bathroom or am I going to go here?

Stay tuned for more but the big flop report.

We'll be right back.

You know.

I wasn't having any of that.

The second time I got out.

Oh no, it was like, oh, you're barely getting off the tart girl, that's as far as you are going.

Isn't that so crazy?

Though?

That's happened to me so many times.

You'll get out there and you're completely fine.

You walk to the truck, no flashlight and get what you need to come back.

And other times it takes all your courage just to step out of a tent.

Yeah, yeah, no, it makes no sense because, yeah, there are times that we're walking through the woods without a light, you know.

And so yeah, it's like I don't have a problem walking through the woods.

I mean, I was raised country girl.

I'm not scared of the woods.

But then there are times when it's like I can't explain, but I am just like, oh my god, there is there is something here and I don't know what it is.

And I don't know that I want to know what it is.

I mean I do, but I don't, you know.

So yeah, all right, let's switch gears.

Just a little bit.

Go back to the squatch out that we got coming up, because it's sooner.

It's going to be here, sooner than yours, because we're just a couple weeks away from it, actually, right, I don't know if you and I've ever talked about this.

I'm sure we have, with as much as we talk with this has come up, but I don't remember.

And I want you to talk to everyone else about your feelings about dog Man because where we're going, the stories are are pretty heavy in that area for dog mans stories.

What do you feel about the whole phenomenon?

Well, and I know this is you know, we'll probably irritate some people, but I don't believe it.

I'm sorry, and I'm going to tell you why.

Because bigfoot is biologically possible.

Dog Man's not, I'm sorry, A man's body, dog's feet, dog's head.

I mean, is that a wild science project gone extremely wrong?

I mean, you know, I.

Understand that a lot of people have seen things.

I think what's going on, and this is just my personal opinion.

I think it's misidentification of a bigfoot, you know, I do believe that they can have different features, you know, And there was a study done on humans a few years ago that when we are in a high stress situation, we are so unreliable about being able to tell you distance, height, color.

I mean, it's ridiculous.

It's like eighty five percent of the time we're wrong.

So if you're in the woods and you've had an encounter with something, you're adrenaline is through the roof and you're scared to death, you know, and it's like, you know, I mean, Bigfoot's bad enough, but you know, and that's just what I think, you know, and dog Man, I hate that name.

I hate that name.

I would want to try other people call it a werewolf or you know, something along those lines, because that's actually there is a legend you know that comes over from you know, Europe about that, and you know what they say about legends, there's always some little bit of truth in there.

Yeah, but you know, and I mean, I know, I know people will get so mad, so upset.

Oh they're real, they're real.

You are going to upset some people.

I can tell you because I every time I say and I I believe just like you do, Marian, and I can't help it.

I can't help but the way I feel.

But someone will always get upset.

I mean people that one in particularly comes to mind that I care about, that I really like, and she's just she's not happy that I feel that way, And I just I can't why why can't we be misidentifying them?

What would be wrong with you know?

And it's like, and everybody's entitled to their opinion, you know, they really truly are.

I mean, just because I don't believe in dog Man doesn't mean somebody else can't.

It's just, you know, my brain works from a very logical point of view.

That's like, I can't go in here and start saying, well, you know, Bigfoot does this, and Bigfoot does that, and this is this, and this is I believe Bigfoot is flesh and blood.

Are there things that maybe they are capable of doing that we can't I can't say they're not.

But honestly, I don't believe you know that they do all the things that people put to especially and this will make people met too.

The portal thing, right, it's so easy to go, well, they walk through a portal, Okay, you can't prove any of that, can't prove any of it that, so that ex you know, they can say, well, they've walked through a portal.

Well, you can't prove it, you know, I don't know for sure.

Is science has proven that those I believe.

Science has said that the likelihood of portals is out there, right, but nobody knows how to control them.

And it's like, so to me, this is an easy way to explain everything.

Oh, they went through a portal.

That's why their tracks disappeared.

Oh they went through a portal, because you can't see them now.

They went through the portal and disappeared.

You know, with the same way with them being aliens or from a spaceship.

That's just another easy way to explain it away.

You can't explain one mystery with another mystery.

No, no, you can't.

So you know, I look at it like this.

Okay, so these things, we are essentially walking into their home.

So if I was to come into your home at night, Wayne, I'm going to bump and bang into everything because I don't know where it's at.

You're right, and you can get up and walk through that house with not a light on and not ever bang into anything.

Right, Okay, let's let's put that in the woods.

They know where everything's at.

They can move through there so quietly.

And I hate to tell y'all, but us humans, we're not the most observant, you know.

It's we have gotten so into technology that we can't go out into the woods and just observe because we get bored.

We're going to have that stupid phone out in front of our face, you know, and that dulls your senses.

And it's like, if you're just out there paying attention to the woods, you're going to see a lot more.

If you're sitting there with your nose in the phone, you're oblivious, you know.

But I think these things are flesh and blood.

They're real, you know.

I think they're the masters of their domain.

They can move almost silently, and I think sometimes they just freaking stop and freeze, you know, because our eyes are trained to look for movement.

Well, as soon as that thing stops and doesn't move anymore, you've lost it, you know, you've lost it.

So you know, I know there are people out there that want to talk about, you know, all the woo and all these things like this and a tree at all that to them.

I think there could be some you know, because we all consist of energy, and maybe they can control theirs, and they vibrate at a different level, and sometimes maybe that is out of the spectrum of what our eyes can see, you know, I mean.

But that's I agree with you.

I agree with so much that you said, Mary, especially like you can explain Bigfoot being a creature an ape, which is what most of us, most of us think they are.

It's like a type of primate or a lot of us think that.

I shouldn't say most.

But you can't really explain that with dog Man.

I mean, there's there's never been any confirmed dogs that walked, you know.

And when you think about dog Man, to me, I go one of two ways.

If dog Man exists, and like you, I hate that name.

It makes us look so stupid or sound so childish and stupid.

I wish we had a better name for them.

But if they exist, it's either a damn military science experiment that went wrong, military thing like some kind of special weapon that they created something like that.

Or I've always like leaned toward Native American like skin Walker, or something just demonic, like Robert said, I hear something evil that was created by something evil, you know, That's what I lean toward, because you hear stories about bigfoot being positive and saving a kid or helping people get out of the woods.

You hear stories like that.

Have you ever heard anything good from a big from a dog man?

No, I really haven't.

I mean things I've hurt.

And the same thing with skinwalkers.

You don't hear anything positive about them, you know.

Yeah, So I mean, yeah, I think you're right.

I mean there's I don't know, you know, it's one of those things that, like I said, I do not believe it's biological.

You know, it's either some science experiments gone greatly wrong.

I heard.

I listened to this guy one time.

It's one of the guys that does into the Shadows podcast, and he was talking about and he's a he's a well to do individual, right, so it would not do him any good to come and tell these tell his story.

It might actually hurt him financially, right.

And he talked about being in high school and he ran track, and he had lived out in the country and he had a certain part that he would run, you know, and had an encounter with one of these.

But now he described it as something that was looked like the Egyptian god Anubis.

Anubis.

Yeah, and I've heard I've heard that encounter that you're talking about, Marianne.

It was it was compelling, yeah, right, and it's like, okay, and when I hear it like that, that makes me think more alien.

You know, it's something from somewhere else, because I mean, I believe in aliens.

I mean, it would be arrogant for us as humans to believe that we're the only intelligent race anywhere, you know.

I mean, so you know, just like it's so arrogant of us to think that we know everything that's out there right we don't know.

Exactly.

We don't have a clue.

I mean, they're discovering.

Science is discovering new stuff every day.

So you know, if we're going to sit here and go, oh, we know what all these things are, it's like, yeah, we we don't.

We don't.

You know, an eight nine foot tall, thousand pounds hair covered monster living in North America.

That's a big deal.

You know that we should have found that by now, so I can understand everything you know behind that.

But it's so arrogant to think that we know everything that's out there right right.

It's let me ask your opinion, Mariann.

What's it going to take to prove that Bigfoot is real.

Well, unfortunately, a body.

I mean that at this point, that's what it's going to take, because AI has gotten so ridiculous that you can't you know, depend on a photo anymore.

Right, Yeah, why are we even still trying to get photos?

Yeah?

And you know, and that's why too.

You know, when I was talking about the energy and how they vibrate, you know, it's like maybe that's part of the reason we don't ever get a good picture is because they're so distorted sometimes, especially like when they're trying to elude us, you know, and it's like when we're trying to take the pictures and that kind of stuff.

I mean, I don't know, because you know, when you start talking about these things, then you you get ten more questions to the one you just asked.

You know, it's a never ending rabbit hole of you know what it could be.

But I think we have to have a body.

I will not be the one that brings that body in.

If I find a body, I might bring a part of it, but I'm not going to be the one that put the body down and keeping the government out of it.

Once we get a body, that might be your biggest issue right there.

Oh, it probably would be.

Probably would be.

And I have talked about on that Bigfoot podcast.

We did a whole episode on it, and like trying to develop the proper protocol amongst everyone in the bigfoot community.

What do we do if what you just explained, if that happens, say we find a find a dead infant baby bigfoot in the woods, something we can pick up and carry, and you got the whole body, you know, what do we do?

Who do we call?

Who do you feel comfortable calling?

Nobody?

Yeah, nobody, because you call the one wrong person.

It's like you put that thing on dry ice and you haul it's asked to Derby in North Carolina at the university.

Yeah, but even then, I mean, I wrong person isn't going to find out.

I talked to someone one time and they said, you call the news channel right away and you can get the news out there, and you put that thing on live right then, stay tuned for more.

But the big Foot report, We'll be right back that way.

It's out there.

But even if you do that, who's to say people don't come back and they completely discredit you.

It was a hoax.

This person lied, he was a liar, he's a known hoaxer and just completely ruin your life.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's the other thing too, you know.

So it's like it's a catch twenty two.

You know.

If you found something like that, it's like, yeah, do you go live with it or do you just stick it in the freezer and hold on to it?

Because I think pretty much everyone that's in that follows this subject seriously would agree that they know the government knows that they're real.

Oh yeah, yeah, they know, they know, And it's like, I don't know if they just don't feel like it's important enough, or you know, people are like, well they shut the National forest down.

You know, look how many us know they're out there and we still go look for them?

Oh yeah, yeah.

It has nothing to do It has nothing to do with shutting down the recreation industry, because you know what, people there are grizzly bears out there.

We still go in the woods.

Mm hm.

I mean you might even get more activity, you might even do more business recreationally if you announce that there's a big foot.

So I don't buy that for a single second.

No, that whole shutting down the timber industry with the lumber.

Yeah, I you know, that's another one too.

It's like they're all over So how could you shut down everything, every national park, every bit of conservation land.

How do you do that?

You can't.

So maybe that's part of the reason that they don't acknowledge them, is because they can't shut everything down, you know, they can control.

Exactly.

And I've heard other, I mean other arguments that what if they know that these things are a percentage of human, they are part human, what do we do at that at that point, you know, are we talking about civil rights that we have to give them?

And that could be a stupid question, but I mean, if the if the whole mailboy catch them thing is is right, and the mitochondrial or DNA is female and we don't know what the father is, that's half human.

Mm hmmm.

How do we do we put humans in zoos?

You know, I don't know some that should be but I don't know.

It's fun to talk about, but we're never ever going to have the answers.

I think we all know that, not like we want.

You know that, That's what it's come down to.

I've seen them, I know they're real.

You know, we've had things happen more times than not.

There have been times when we absolutely have just thrown a dart at a map and said we're going there and found them.

So you can't tell me that these things are few and far between.

They're not.

You know.

It's part of the reason that we haven't found them is there's really and truly if you go out and you look at all your researchers, right, how many weekends a year are those people out and they have to be out on the right weekend when those things are in their area, because I don't believe that they're stationary.

Now I don't believe that they migrate from north to south either.

Let's say maybe they have one hundred square mile range.

Well, if they're in the far corner of it this month and you're in the opposite corner, you're not going to find anything because they haven't been there for a while, right, you know.

And so it's like the odds of you being able to have something concrete are astronomical.

You know.

When those things happen, it's just the planets are aligning at that moment.

That you are right, all right, we are over fifty minutes and it doesn't seem that luck, that's possible.

But we do have a few questions, so let's go ahead and jump in there.

First off, not a question, but going to google hit us for that dollar nine and nine.

Thank you, buddy, you are amazing as always, Troy.

Wasn't the flat of eggs twenty four eggs by twenty four eggs.

Something like that?

It's ridiculous, I mean, yeah, you have to basically use two hands to carry it.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

It's based two dozen yeah.

Because it's like cardboard on the bottom and plastic wrap you know on the top type.

Okay, and abnormal Investigations asks what are your thoughts on the being neflin?

That's a loaded question right there.

Well, I am not a person to answer that, but I say, no, I don't like to bring religion into anything of the cryptids because it's crossing lines there.

That first of all, we don't understand a lot of the stuff in the Bible well enough to compare it, you know, and everybody's got a different interpretation of the Bible.

So for me, that's just a big no no, you know, really and truly it is.

And you know, Marianne, I made that exact man on an episode of That Big Podcast.

One time.

Following week, I got an email where I got all but cussed out by a Christian who said I was doing this huge disservice to all of the Christians out there by having my personal opinion that we need to just keep them separate.

So my opinion is doing a disservice.

But yeah, and it's like, and that's part of what's wrong with society right now.

Nobody can have an opinion.

It offends everybody, and it's like, just what your opinion is, Yours just because my opinion is they're not Nephelim doesn't mean that everybody else has to have that same opinion.

You know, it could be, it could be.

I just don't think it is.

You know, that's another one of those things that we don't know enough about.

And you can say, well, neph One was this and this and this, so this is why they can do this.

Okay, maybe they can, but I don't.

I just don't like mixing religions into that.

Religion is a personal, private thing for every person and it should not be brought into the bigfoot cryptied community.

I agree, others do not have This is more of a comment I don't believe dog man has a human body.

Well, I've heard pretty much do well.

Yeah, I mean the descriptions I've heard is it's it's like a human body.

It doesn't have that dog uh because you know, and my dog's lane right here.

Their ribs come down, you know, they're they're not pointed, but they're not flat like ours.

So I just you know, I are moving on.

Our last question is from Chris Blaylock, and I'm going to be honest, it's probably one of the better questions we've had in a really long time, and I think that it needs to be talked about.

How do you think we can get more people interested in the research, especially the young people.

It's a great question.

That's a phenomenal question, and I've got a couple of ideas on that.

Going into the libraries.

You know, you can go into the county libraries most of the time.

It does not cost you anything to rent a room or book a room in your libraries.

Right do a talk on a Saturday, you know, take your evidence in there.

If you are in school, to the elementary school systems and see if you can't get in and do a talk there.

You know, that's how you get these kids interested is you've got to introduce it to them early on.

You know, if they've got parents that are open to it, that makes it easier.

But I think introducing this is something that's possibly out there to the younger kids is a good way to get kids involved.

Great, great suggestion.

That's a really really good idea.

All right, uh, Mary Anne, these last couple of minutes, tell everybody about your new show, where it is, where they can find it, all that good stuff.

Well, I have delved into the podcast world myself now and it's called Bigfoot, wild Man and Booger's Show.

It's over on YouTube.

And we've had to take a couple of weeks off, you know, we had some things come up, and so we are just kind of getting lined back out and we're actually going to record with you in a few days, and you're going to be the first one up when we come back, and we're trying to just have you know, be logical about it, right, get these people on, let's talk to them, you know, find out what's going on, what they've seen, what they've heard, where they've been, you know, things like that, because everything that I do, whether it's bfro or it's my personal stuff.

If we teach enough of these people how to collect samples, how to poor casts, how to do everything, somebody eventually has to get something that the scientific community cannot turn their nose up at.

Educate, educate, educate.

So that's part of you know, our podcast, The Bigfoot, wild Men and Boogers.

We're on YouTube.

We're going to be venturing out into other things, but that's where we're at right now.

You know, go over there like it, subscribe, you know, do all the things that you do for Wayne, go do them for me.

And then if you all can prove to me when we get to the LBL that you've done all this, I'm gonna have little goodies for you.

I need to see it on your phone that you've liked and subscribed, So I'm bribing you all for all the likes and subscribes.

Okay, awesome.

Also, and I'm going to I'll get this release to podcasts.

I don't know if i'll get it turned around for tomorrow or not, but it'll at least be Friday, and I'll share the link to everything but your conference and your show definitely on the podcast where I have a much bigger audience over there, so maybe we can reach a few more people that way.

Absolutely absolutely, But yeah, we've got that going on, and we've got the Ozart Mountain Bigfoot Conference page.

You guys can always find out what we're doing over there, So just come join us, hang out.

We have a good time, Yes, we do, all right again.

I can't wait till your conference, ma'am.

It's so much fun.

It is worth the almost ten hour drive to get there and just to hang out with my peeps.

It's I can't wait.

Mister Robert met you there, buddy, can't wait to hang out with you again.

Give me a good time, ma'am.

Thank you so much for taking the time to come and hang out with me tonight.

I hope you enjoy the rest of your evening.

I plan on it.

I'm gonna go make me some burgers.

All right, ma'am.

Have a good night YouTube bye bye bye.

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