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Encore: Where's the Cranberry Sauce?!? A Review of Charlie Brown's Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1

A very special episode of Children of the Eighties is up next.

Well, Thanksgiving days upon us.

I haven't finished leaving my Halloween candies the guests, we'll be here pretty soon.

Speaker 2

Please get ready to help serve them.

Speaker 1

This is gonna be the biggest fashion of the year.

Speaker 2

Welcome to Children of the Eighties.

Speaker 1

I'm Lindsay and I'm Jim and Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2

Yes, we are coming up on the grand holiday Mary Thanksgiving?

Mary Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1

Huh?

Speaker 2

Are we going to have a merry over for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1

Isn't that from one of the Christmas cartoons?

Speaker 2

Really?

Okay?

Speaker 1

And I thought worries Happy Christmas.

Speaker 2

You're thinking of Frosty the Snowman.

Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday, that's what you're thinking of.

Speaker 1

Maybe I should edit that out.

Oh so Thanksgiving is slipped up on this a little bit.

I'm still eating the Halloween candy.

Speaker 2

I'm just like the You're just like Lucy.

Speaker 1

Yes, I am not ready for this or not?

Speaker 2

Lucy, I mean I'm losing my mind.

You're just like South Yes, Charlie Brown's sister.

Speaker 1

Wouldn't you say?

I probably am Sally?

Speaker 2

I mean, do you love a little, tiny, ball headed guy with just stringy hair.

Who carries around a security.

Speaker 1

Blanket, Well, I have that, you know, we have.

We shared that secret about you and your security blanket.

Speaker 2

Oh, so, in case you haven't figured out, we are going to be talking about the nineteen seventy three filmed Charlie Brown Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1

But we're children of the eighties.

I'm so confused, we are.

Speaker 2

But was this not played every single Thanksgiving during the nineteen eighties?

Speaker 1

Absolutely?

I think literally on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2

And during the early years of the eighties, when pretty much everybody only had three channels, like this was must see TV.

Forget about NBC Thursday nights in the nineties and two thousands, Charlie Brown Thanksgiving was must see TV for children in the nineteen eighties.

Speaker 1

I mean, Charlie Brown led us through the holidays.

Speaker 2

Absolutely started with Halloween.

Yep, It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown.

And then the Thanksgiving and then obviously the Christmas as well.

Yeah, and again as a kid, those three episodes were must see TV getting you, you know, getting you hyped up for the holidays.

Speaker 1

So I have a question.

Yeah, what I'm going I have a couple of questions.

I'm gonna jump a little bit, so just hang on tight.

What was your what's your favorite Thanksgiving entree?

Speaker 2

Mashed potatoes as a child?

Speaker 1

What was your favorite as a child?

Speaker 2

My favorite was mashed potatoes.

My favorite now is your sweet potatoes.

Who flick?

Speaker 1

Okay, Well, we don't even have an enough time to delve into the differences culturally from Thanksgivings across the country.

Speaker 2

No, we don't know.

Speaker 1

It's a great country of ours.

Speaker 2

We don't.

But I would love to hear any of our listeners Thanksgiving traditions, cultures, foods that they eat that maybe somebody else doesn't eat.

We had what I would consider a very what seems like a very traditional Thanksgiving, but who knows, right, I mean, it could be you thought you had a very traditional Thanksgiving, and people in Arizona thought they had a very traditional Thanksgiving.

And I think we're all different, and I think it's I think that that's great.

But I just remember, you know, seeing the calendar change and seeing the cornucopia on the calendar and going, there's our Thanksgiving meal right there.

Speaker 1

You had to bring up that word.

Speaker 2

I did have to bring up cornicopia.

Speaker 1

Oh my goodness, gracious, I still twitch a little bit.

Speaker 2

You have non type.

Speaker 1

Flesh I do so I couldn't that so maybe second grade, third grade that was a spelling word for me, and I could not figure out how to spell cortn Ukope, it just wasn't coming to it just was not going to happen.

Speaker 2

Can you do it now?

Speaker 1

Let's see?

Okay, ceo r in you coo P I A?

Speaker 2

Yes?

Speaker 1

Did I get it?

Speaker 2

Got it?

So?

Speaker 1

Of course I was staying with Nanny right after school, and normally with Nanny she was complicated lady.

She was very stern on homework, but very lax with you know, me getting whatever I wanted.

But I had these spelling words.

So come in, there's no farting around, you said on the kitchen table, and you get to it.

Speaker 2

Did you get a snack first?

Speaker 1

No, you need your homework first, No snack, and then the snack is the motivation for getting the homework done.

I couldn't get cornucopia.

I sat there through snack time, through let's play outside time, through you know whatever I would have watched on TV, into dinner time.

I'm still sitting at the kitchen table and I can't spell cornucopia.

Uh.

Speaker 2

I'm guessing Nanny didn't either understand or didn't believe in mental blocks.

Speaker 1

Correct, Yeah, no, she was I think probably the closest share ever got to spank in me.

But so then another word for cornucopia is horn of plenty.

I could spell that.

See, that's why I was street smart.

I was.

I've never been BookSmart, but always been street smart.

So let's just go with horn of plenty.

Speaker 2

Oh my goodness, that's classic.

Speaker 1

Okay, So I have one I have one other question, uh huh.

And I know we've got to we got to get moving on this show.

Thanksgiving evening.

Yes, it's all over, there's nothing left to eat, dessert's gone.

Or did you guys have something on TV that you watched as a family.

Speaker 2

I don't believe.

So.

Most of the time for Thanksgiving, we were over at my aunt Marsha's my mom's sister, and you know, she always had like this big giant Thanksgiving feast.

Her family was over there and she also had a blended family, and then there were other people over there, the adults upstairs, the kids downstairs, and me kind of running back and forth because my uncle Rick was a big football fan, so he always had the football game on upstairs.

None of the kids other than me and probably my brother Mike were really sports fans, so they were all about like the Kung Fu movies or whatever, and to me, like, I couldn't have cared less.

Kung Fu movies to me would be like you me diagramming football plays for you, you know, on the clicker on TV.

So I would be down there with the kids eating because that's where I had to eat, and then i'd run upstairs and try and catch some of the game before the adults showed me away and sent me back downstairs.

So then therefore at night, right, we were probably like driving back, going back, And I don't remember a traditional show or anything that we would watch on Thanksgiving night.

Now I know that you have a tradition, or had a tradition and still do have a tradition on Thanksgiving morning.

Speaker 1

Oh every Thanksgiving morning you get up and watch the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade.

Speaker 2

And Emmy is now the same way.

Speaker 1

And that it's not Thanksgiving if you don't get to watch the parade.

Speaker 2

Nothing, but now you've got to cook in the morning, get to watch the parade.

Speaker 1

It's very complicated.

Speaker 2

I'll turn it up for you this year.

I'll just blast the TV so you can hear it the kitchen.

Speaker 1

Oh, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2

Or we could go old school like my mom had.

My mom and she would be working in the kitchen, but she had a little black and black and a little black and white TV in there.

I'm gonna kich you a little black of white TV with some rabbit ears I'm foil yep, and I'm gonna post it on one of the counters in the kitchen so you can watch it while you're cooking.

Speaker 1

But there was a definite shift in the evening from Thanksgiving to Christmas because we did we ate two Thanksgiving meals okay, or one really late one, so by the time we were through eating dessert was done, we watched like the lighting of the Christmas tree in like downtown Atlanta.

Oh okay, and you had to be in front of the TV.

And that was the it was.

You flipped the switch and went from Thanksgiving to Christmas just like that.

Speaker 2

I wish I well, number one, we didn't watch the lighting of the Christmas tree in downtown Atlanta.

Speaker 1

Well, that would have been weird in Saint Louis.

Speaker 2

But number two, I wish that everybody would still follow that rule and switch the flip the switch for Christmas on Thanksgiving night rather than two days before Halloween, because we went to Low's two days before Halloween to see if there were any like Halloween stuff on clearance that we might be able to get, and they already had up Christmas trees and Christmas stuff, and I'm like, really, like two days before Halloween.

You know, it used to be after Thanksgiving, and then it started before Thanksgiving, and then it was like immediately after Halloween.

And I'm like, okay, whatever, I mean, I don't really like it, but it is what it is.

Now they're starting it before Halloween.

Really, like, come on, people, let's quit cross pollinating our holidays.

Speaker 1

Do you remember when you told Emmy she couldn't listen to Christmas music till after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2

Well, what I said was, or what I meant was what I said was no Christmas music before Thanksgiving because we were all in the car together and she wanted to listen to Christmas music, and I said, no Christmas music before Thanksgiving.

I was just talking about myself, and I didn't want to listen to it in the car because I didn't want to get sick of it by the time Christmas rolled around.

She took it as she wasn't allowed to listen to Christmas music before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1

She's with like various relatives, not with us, but it was still before Thanksgiving and they're trying to listen to Christmas music, and she's like, I can't listen to Christmas music.

Speaker 2

My Danny said, I can't listen to Christmas to get the laughter Thanksgiving.

So then I realized at that point, like I had to spell everything out in detail.

Speaker 1

Yes, we've chased a lot of rabbits.

Speaker 2

We sure have.

Speaker 1

You're ready to get back on the track.

Speaker 2

Get into the meat of why we're here.

Speaker 1

Let's do it.

Speaker 2

Charlie Brown.

Thanksgiving.

I love obviously.

I loved it as a kid.

I still love it now we've introduced We introduced it Emmy when she was real little.

Remember we got her the DVDs of the Three Holidays and she loves it.

It starts out with the football kick Dude, where Lucy convinces Charlie Brown that this time she's going to hold the football for it to be different, this time, to be different, this time.

Speaker 1

Come on, Charlie Brown, I'll hold the ball and you kick it.

Hold it, you'll pull it.

Away and flat on my back and kill myself.

Speaker 2

I'm sure a lot of people can relate with bad relationships that they've been in where they go back and they end up getting burned again, and then the person comes back to him it's like, no, no, it'll be different this time, and it really is.

Speaker 1

No, it never is.

Speaker 2

Ultimately, we kind of are what we are and oh absolutely, and we're not really going to change our habits or our personalities or anything.

So Charlie Brown knew it.

I think deep down he knew it.

But yet the hopefulness, the little tiny bit of hopefulness that Charlie Brown has because he doesn't have a lot, but the little bitty tiny bit of hopefulness that he had allowed him to be tricked once more.

Speaker 1

Poor guy, he's so simple, he is.

It's just a simple little fella.

Speaker 2

I feel like, though, if he hadn't walked back a half mile, correct, it gave her time to maybe even think about it and reconsider it.

I don't know if she was genuine or not.

I have a feeling she probably wasn't, because that's how Lucy was.

But yeah, you know, he runs up a half mile, she pulls the football from him, he goes flying through the air doing flips and lands on his back, and as he says, and kill myself.

Speaker 1

Tis terrible.

Speaker 2

What I didn't notice though, or I guess I don't think I had ever realized it until we watched it again this time.

Was that's the only time Lucy appears in this episode?

Speaker 1

Yeah, she's not.

You don't see her at the meal.

Speaker 2

No, she's not in an episode at all other than at the beginning when she pulls away the football.

Maybe she was banned after that.

Speaker 1

Good she probably should have been.

Now why were they standing at the mailbox?

Speaker 2

Charlie Brown was looking for.

Speaker 1

A card from the Little Redhanded Girl.

Speaker 2

No, no, that's Valentine's No, he was just looking for a card because of the holiday.

And that's why Sally's like, they don't send cards for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1

They should though, But.

Speaker 2

I love how Charlie Brown says, holidays always depressed me.

I mean, is there more sad Sack as a kid than Charlie.

Speaker 1

Charlie Brown is the e Or of the Peanuts franchise.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, yet we still love him anyway.

Speaker 1

Well we still love you?

Or anyway we yes?

Do they always include e or they accept him for who he is.

Speaker 2

So it's funny that we were talking about, you know, them having Christmas stuff stuff up at you know, before Halloween, because that's what Sally tells Charlie Brown, right, like they have Christmas stuff up already.

He's like, oh no, you know, he's he can't believe that they've got Christmas stuff up before Thanksgiving.

And now here I am forty years later going I can't believe they have yeah, Christmas stuff up before Halloween.

Speaker 1

So then we get into the whole Standish Miles Yes fiasco and it's not really a fiasco.

It's only a fiasco in this house.

Speaker 2

She calls him Stanley Miles, Yes, Stanley Miles, and Charlie says, don't you mean Miles Standish.

So the reason why Lindsay said Standish Miles and not Miles Standish is because on the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving DVD version, there is another episode after that about the Mayflower coming over and the kids are talking about I think maybe Linis is the narrator for that.

Speaker 1

I don't even remember.

Speaker 2

It's a little boring, and it is, it's very boring.

But he but she loved it when she was little.

Speaker 1

Emmy did, Yes, yes.

Speaker 2

And so we uh, they mentioned standish miles instead of mile standing.

They say it, they say it a few times and next thing we know, a little two and a half year old in he's walking around going standish miles, standish miles, standish miles, and we're like, what is she saying?

Like is there somebody at her school?

Like that's a weird name.

And then eventually we looked it up and that it was you got to reverse it.

It's miles standards.

Speaker 1

And I thought when we googled it and it came up that you know, this was he was a real person in history.

I thought she was a genius.

Speaker 2

You thought she was learning it in school.

Speaker 1

I did.

I'm like, oh my gosh, we have a child prodigy.

Speaker 2

I think that's every parent's hope, right when they're a little toddler.

So I love that, you know, Sally says, you know, I'm not even done with my Halloween cans Thanksgiving already.

I'm not even done with my Halloween candy yet.

I mean, do you remember still having Halloween candiate Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1

Heck?

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, of us too, us too.

Speaker 1

And I just today threw some away.

I was like, I'm done with this the chocolate's gone.

Speaker 2

Right, Once the chocolate's gone, there's no.

Speaker 1

Reason we're down to twizzlers and dumb dumbs and whatever.

And I'm like, yeah, it's time for this to go.

Speaker 2

The bad candy yep, all right.

So what's what's something else that you noticed?

Speaker 1

Well?

I love that Peppermint Patty invites herself over.

Speaker 2

Yes, I had that down too.

Speaker 1

But not only does she invite herself, she invites Marcy, and then she invites.

Speaker 2

Frank Yeah, she starts inviting the whole community.

Speaker 1

All yo.

Speaker 2

So Charlie Brown's a lot like me.

He won't say.

Speaker 1

No, he can't say no.

He's a people.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and so when you know she he's trying to object but he can't really get it out, and she's just so pushy that, yes, she ends up inviting herself over.

And like you said, Marcy and then Franklin.

I'm surprised she didn't invite pig Pen and Schroeder.

They weren't even in the episode.

I would have liked to have seen Schroeder over there playing some like mood music.

Speaker 1

That would have been good.

I want to know, though, who leaves a bunch of kids home alone at Thanksgiving?

Because Peppermint Patty had nowhere to go, Marcy had nowhere to go, Franklin had nowhere to go.

Speaker 2

I think, if I remember quickly, I thought Peppermint Patty said that Marcy's parents said it would be okay if she came over.

Speaker 1

I think you're right.

But still it's Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean in the Peanuts gang, or maybe in the seventies, you know, nobody cared.

Speaker 1

It feels like to me that like Snoopy's the big brother of the group because when when the when it comes down to it and it's time to get to work, Snoopy's the one leading the way.

Speaker 2

Snoopy's always lead the way, either either he's the big brother of the group or he's like the indentured servant of the church.

But they're like, go do that.

Speaker 1

But he seems to have the brains.

Speaker 2

Yes he's there, sure, yeah, sure, even though he can't speak, right, he has the brains.

Speaker 1

So he and you know his sidekick is Woodstock obviously.

Speaker 2

So I love the fact that you know, Peppermint Patty's being pushy, right, being pushy, pushy, And Charlie Brown says, you can't explain anything to Peppermint Patty she doesn't let you.

Speaker 1

That's awesome.

I know people like that.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, yeah, me too.

Speaker 1

I know a lot of people.

Speaker 2

I know people who invite themselves over yes, or invite themselves to something that you're doing, or invite your themselves to your twenty fifth wedding anniversary.

Speaker 1

Are you thinking about somebody in particular?

Speaker 2

Nom, just spitballing.

I also love hows.

Linus seems to be like the moral compass of the show and the historian of the show, and and the problem solver, right because Charlie Brown's freaking out and Linus is like, Okay, well we're going to do this.

We're gonna do this, and then Snoopy gets to work on it, like you said's new.

He's like the big brother getting to work on it.

But really, Linus is the one who solved the problem.

Was like, let's do this, and let's do this.

Speaker 1

So they send Snoopy out to you know, get everything set up, to set it all up.

What sets off the chair?

The chair gets mad well and fights with Snoopy.

But what makes the chair mad?

Speaker 2

I think just you know, when you have those chairs, those foldable those old foldable chairs, havn't you ever fought with one trying to get it open and write exactly where you want it.

Yeah, you know, and it kind of you know, it tips over one way, fighting becaes it feels like it's fighting back, so it tips over one way.

It may scrape you, it may hit you when you're trying to do something.

So I thought that was hilarious.

I mean, I thought the fact that Snoopy in the in the chair were kind of going like around each other.

Yeah.

I love the you know, they open the garage though, you know, they pull out like all different kinds of all different styles of chairs.

Speaker 1

I love that.

Speaker 2

That was That was awesome.

That was like my house when I was a bachelor.

Speaker 1

I was gonna say, we could probably do that now in our garage.

Speaker 2

Well, I was going to say, their garage is full of stuff just as much as our garriage, just full of stuff.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Absolutely.

But then so then we cut back to the kitchen.

After he gets everything set up outside, we cut back to the kitchen.

Where did all those toasters come from?

Speaker 2

Yeah, no, that's a that's unexplained.

Speaker 1

Did they go around to like every house in the neighborhood and borrow everybody's toaster?

Speaker 2

Maybe they they won a contest or something where they were getting.

Speaker 1

Free to Yeah.

Maybe maybe they went to one of those timeshare seminars.

Speaker 2

Yes, yeah, everybody, everybody on the block went uh huh, and they got all the toasters.

Speaker 1

The Thanksgiving meal comes down to popcorn, buttered toast, pretzel sticks, jelly beans, and Sunday ice cream.

Speaker 2

Sunday Yes, yes, the ultimate kids Thanksgiving dam I.

Speaker 1

Mean it sounds pretty good to me.

I could go for some good buttered toast right now.

Speaker 2

You know, I like popcorn.

The only thing that I probably wouldn't really dig the pretzel sticks.

But other than that, everything else is pretty good.

As long as they didn't have any of the black jelly beans.

This tastes like black liquors.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I would probably I could probably do without the jelly beans.

Speaker 2

But you know, you know you mentioned popcorn, right, Snoopy's cooking that popcorn on a tray like Drew Barrymore at the beginning of Scream, right before she gets slaughtered.

Speaker 1

Do you like that Snoopy and Woodstock dress up like Pilgrims.

Yes, so I was gonna sayestivities.

Speaker 2

I was gonna say that, so Snoopy.

Snoopy wears a chef hat while he's while he's cooking, right, but then he goes and gets the pilgrim hat like I wear it Thanksgiving.

So yeah, I absolutely love that.

Speaker 1

But much like real life, Peppermint Patty gets upset about the meal, isn't there always at least one family member that gets bent out of shape.

Speaker 2

At Thanksgiving about something about something?

Yes, absolutely, it happens every year.

If you have a big enough family, there is a family member that's going to get bent out of shape.

Whether they're live in the house or whether they come from Afar, there's gonna be somebody that coul's been out of shape.

I love the fact that she says, what Blockhead cooked all?

Speaker 1

I feel like I've heard your siblings say that at Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2

What block had I had cooked all this?

I love that Peppermint Patty complains about a free meal that she invited.

Speaker 1

Herself to, like she totally invited herself.

She because she invited herself, she started the ball rolling that led to all of this work for all of these people, Like everybody probably would have been much happier if she had have just not brought it up and stayed at home.

Speaker 2

Yes, I agree, and I love the fact that Marcy calls her on her shenanigans.

I mean, she calls her out like, well, did you did he invite you?

Or did you invite yourself?

Speaker 1

Sir?

Sir.

Speaker 2

I love the fact that Marcy calls her sir.

And there's been a lot of theories out there about why Marcy calls her sir.

You know why Marcy calls her sir?

Marcy calls her sir?

Why because she's got these big, thick Coke bottled glasses.

She can't see more than two inches in front of her face.

I'm surprised she was able to find the food.

So of course, you know, Charlie Brown feels bad about ruining everyone's Thanksgiving.

Basically he's you.

Speaker 1

Yes, he takes that on, yes, yes.

Speaker 2

You and Charlie Brown, Oh, I feel so bad about no, like you didn't ruin Thanksgiving, like these people invited themselves over, you know, their fault, not yours.

We also find out Peppermint Patty's real name in this episode.

Do you remember what it was?

Speaker 1

No, Priscilla, Oh, Priscilla.

Speaker 2

I can't remember who called her Priscilla.

I think it was Marcy, but I'm pretty sure it was Marcy because then she started calling Charlie Brown Charles.

Speaker 1

I think, oh, that's so funny.

She's very formal.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, Marcy is very formal.

Again, probably because she can't see more than two feet in front of her face.

Speaker 1

Oh so then Charles calls his grandma and apologizes and said they're gonna be a little bit late, and it's his fault, right.

Speaker 2

Right, because again because he had this kid's Thanksgiving dinner that you know, several people invited themselves over to, or one person invited several people over to, you know, going back to the dinner.

I love the fact that they had it on a ping pong table, yes, and that they put a tablecloth or it's probably sheet, right, it was totally it's the sheet they put over it to make it fancy.

And then you know the different styles of chairs, a rocking chair, a blue chair, a green chair, a lounge chair.

Speaker 1

It's like a wicker like kind of an eighties wicker type chair.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, so I love the uh.

I love the dinner scene, and I love you know, going back to that.

Before you know, Marsie calls her out to Shenanigans.

I love the where's the mashed potatoes?

Where's the cranberry sauce.

Where's the pumpkin pie?

Marshy's calling out all the uh, all the traditional Thanksgiving foods that I had.

So you know we had mashed potatoes.

I know you.

You didn't have mashed potatoes, right, you had sweet potatoes.

Yes, we had mashed potatoes.

We did have cranberry sauce.

Did you have cranberries?

Speaker 1

Oh?

Absolutely, straight from the can with the ridges on it and everything.

Speaker 2

So did you have green beans any form of green beans like casserole?

Speaker 1

No?

No, no, no, no, okay, So I.

Speaker 2

Would prefer green beans.

And I believe when we move Thanksgiving over to our house as I got older, my mom made green beans.

But I believe prior to that, when we were over at our aunt Marsha's, undoubtedly we probably had green bean casserole.

Speaker 1

With the onion.

Speaker 2

Yeah, with the onion.

Yes, okay, So I'm not a casserole fan at all.

Speaker 1

Yes, I know, I learned that the hard way.

No.

Speaker 2

Yeah, let's just make our food be food and not mush with cream of whatever soup in it and fried burnt onion strings over them.

Speaker 1

What kind of dessert.

Speaker 2

We always?

I mean we always I always remember pumpkin pie.

I'm sure there were other pies, but I always remember pumpkin pies.

But again, I only like two kinds of pie.

Speaker 1

I know people can't see me right now, but I'm shaking my.

Speaker 2

Head because after fifteen years, you finally get it.

I've gotten you the previous fourteen years, though, go ahead, ask what kind of pies do you like?

Speaker 1

John?

Speaker 2

Hot pie and cold pie?

Speaker 1

Did you notice when Charlie Brown was talking to his grandma, I think she asks, have your friends had anything to eat?

Do you remember?

What?

He says?

We don't know because we don't hear her, right, we.

Speaker 2

Hear wah wah wah wah wah.

But you think that's what she was asking?

Speaker 1

Yeah, he says no.

As a matter of fact, they haven't.

They've let me know that with no uncertain terms.

Speaker 2

See, That's why I love Charlie Brown.

He's just so really authentic, right, he really is.

He's authentic.

He's was me and then and then he you know, he lets you know about his bad time.

Yep, so you know, I I don't think I think I realized that, but I did not write that down.

And that's that's funny.

Speaker 1

I love that.

Speaker 2

I love that too.

Speaker 1

So then they all load up in the station wagon.

Speaker 2

Uh huh, So who's driving the station wagon if nobody was home?

Speaker 1

We don't know.

Speaker 2

It's not Snoopy.

Speaker 1

No, because this is my issue with the whole entire show.

They leave Snoopy at home, right, Snoopy and Woodstock don't go, No.

Speaker 2

Who's gonna take up?

What is Woodstock?

A pair?

Speaker 1

Keet?

What is Woodstock?

Speaker 2

I don't know.

He's got a big beak and he's got yellow hair.

I mean he's yellow all over, but his hair's kind of frizzy and kind of sticks up.

I don't know what he is.

I bet one of our listeners know what kind of bird Woodstock is.

Speaker 1

Probably i'd love to hear.

Speaker 2

I bet I know somebody who knows who Woodstock.

I guess we'll talk about them in a minute.

Okay, Yeah, So they leave Snooping the Bird at home.

That's what Emmy used to call him when.

Speaker 1

She was.

Speaker 2

She didn't know his name was Woodstock, but she knew Snoopy and she shortened everybody's name, so she called them Snooping the Bird.

So they leave them behind.

Uh, and I love the fact that they uh break out their own turkey and their own dinner.

Speaker 1

That's when he brings out the good stock.

Speaker 2

He's not gonna waste it on the Peppermint Patty inviting her over.

Speaker 1

He waits until everybody's gone.

Poor Charlie Brown, you know he's suffered the wrath of Peppermint Patty, and then he brings out the feast.

Speaker 2

The wrath of Peppermint Patty and the embarrassment and the shame that he felt with all his other friends around, and Peppermint Patty dresses him down and humiliates him as if he were a private in the army and she was the drill sergeant.

Speaker 1

Well, they say a dog is a man's best friend.

I would have to argue here in this situation, Snoopy was not Charlie Brown's best friend.

Speaker 2

He's not Woodstock.

Snoopy is Woodstock's best Oh, oh, there you go?

Or Woodstock is Snoopy's best friend.

Speaker 1

There they go.

Speaker 2

But they are, they are best friends.

They're they're right or die, Yes, for sure.

I love the fact that you know they they're going to grand Grandma's house in the station wagon and they're singing over the river and through the woods to grandmother's house.

We go, But they get it wrong, and and Peppermint Patty missed no at all?

Know what all?

Peppermint Patty goes, no, no, no, here's how it goes.

Speaker 1

Here she goes again.

Speaker 2

But apparently Peppermint Patty's a really good baseball player, because Charlie Brown says that do his grandma too?

Speaker 1

Oh that's funny.

Yeah, that's funny.

And at the very end, Snoopy and Woodstock pull the wishbone.

I don't remember that, you don't.

Oh, I do not remember that.

And that's how it ends.

It's a little anti climatic.

Speaker 2

Yeah, pulled the wishbone, and Woodstock goes flying.

Yep, who won the wishbone?

Speaker 1

I think what Stock did?

Okay, but I don't know.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I don't remember either.

I didn't.

I did not write that down.

Speaker 1

I didn't either.

Speaker 2

I think the thing that I was, you know, the two things that I was kind of blown away about it was one, it was made in nineteen seventy three, so it probably you know, showed at the nineteen seventy three Thanksgiving, which was less than a month before I was born, so kind of special to me there.

And then the other thing that kind of blew me away was without commercials.

Speaker 1

How short it was, man, it is super short.

Speaker 2

I don't even think it was twenty minutes, right, But it would last a whole half an hour on CBS back in the day because they'd fill that with commercials because they knew all the kids were watching.

Yeah, yep, knew all the kids were watching.

Speaker 1

So I have before we wrap up, did you have anything else about Peanuts?

Speaker 2

I mean, I just love Peanuts as a whole as a kid.

You know, all the shows, they'd have specials, they'd have movies.

You know, I think Charles Schultz was a genius.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he really was, And so I loved it.

Speaker 2

You know, it was again, three stations, adult content on every night all night, and so when a special like Charlie Brown came on or Rudolph the Red News Reindeer, which we may talk about next month, you know, you were all in, like you were selling out.

You were selling out for that, and you were in front of the TV and you weren't missing it.

So those are kind of my memories and kind of the final thing that that I had.

Speaker 1

So I did, I didn't, I did mean a little good go search, Oh you did?

This is the only Thanksgiving special that I remember, you know cartoons special?

Speaker 2

Was there not a Garfield so?

Speaker 1

Well, yeah, so I'm going to get to that.

Yes, but I don't remember a Thanksgiving special for Garfield.

So I did a little Google search.

Did you ever see Daffy Docs thanks for Giving Special?

Speaker 2

If I did, I don't remember it.

I wouldn't be surprised if I did, and if I saw it again, maybe it jogs the memory.

But right now, offhand, I can't remember what it would have been about.

Speaker 1

And then apparently there was a Winnie the Pooh Thanksgiving Special nineteen eighty three, Pooh Corner Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2

Was there a Berenstain Bears?

Yes, Thanksgiving Special?

Speaker 1

Yes, Night the Berenstein Bears meet Big Paul.

Speaker 2

I love the fact that you called them Berenstein Bears because I don't care what anybody says.

When I was growing up, it was not spelled ai in.

It was spelled ei in.

Because I remember looking and I know people are going to say this is the Mandela effect.

I remember looking at the book.

I have this specific memory of looking at the book and wondering, is it Berenstein or is it barren Stein.

If it had an A on it, I would have known it was barren Stein.

Yes, so at some point, somehow, either we or the books have flipped to a different dimension.

Okay, art Bell, but I'm telling you it was Berenstein or Berenstein.

But they had a Thanksgiving special.

Speaker 1

Yes they did.

Okay, Cubert, do you remember Cubert?

Speaker 2

Of course I probably wasted.

You know, if I had invested the quarters that I've wasted on Cubert as a kid, I might be Warren Buffett right now.

Speaker 1

Duh.

Nineteen eighty three, Cubert, Thanksgiving for the Memories.

Speaker 2

I do not remember that.

Speaker 1

Nineteen eighty six, The care Bears, Graham's Bears Thanksgiving Surprise.

Speaker 2

I definitely would not have watched that.

Speaker 1

And we've already talked about this one.

Nineteen eighty eight.

This is America, Charlie Brown, the Mayflower of Voyagers.

Speaker 2

Yes, so, yes, that's what it was that they've put on the DVD on the back half of its Charlie Brown Thanksgame.

Speaker 1

It covered everything from the trans Continental Railroad to John Philip Sousa.

Speaker 2

Really yeah, I did not know that.

Maybe I have to go back and watch it, maman.

Speaker 1

And then nineteen eighty nine, I don't remember, but nineteen eighty nine Garfield's Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I thought, uh, I thought he had lasagna for Thanksgiving dinner.

Speaker 1

John messes up the traditional Thanksgiving meal, so Garfield calls Grandma and she comes to the rescue.

Speaker 2

With a lasagna or with traditional Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1

It says, Grandma cuts up the bird with the chainsaw before they all sit down to hold hens to eat Thanksgiving dinner.

Speaker 2

Grandma might have been the star of a bad guy slasher fil me.

I know she's cutting up a turget with a chainsaw.

Speaker 1

I'm gonna have to see if I can find it, because I just was.

Speaker 2

It a live bird?

What?

Speaker 1

Hope not?

I mean it had been at one point in time.

Speaker 2

But so those were the cartoons, uh Thanksgiving specials during the eighties.

Yes, interesting, Yeah, I don't know that I've seen any of my probably have seen the Daffy Duck.

I don't think I've seen the Baronstain Bears.

I love the Barons Name Bears as a kid, and still even when Emmy was little and she had me read to her, I loved reading her The Barns Nain Bears me too, the Bears Bear story.

So I would I would probably still dig that, obviously, Charlie Brown, I would probably.

I don't know that I've seen the Garfield one, but I would probably like that too.

I always love Garfield.

I don't think i'd really enjoy any of the other ones.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I agree.

I think they probably didn't hold hold up well over the years.

Speaker 2

What Charlie Brown did.

Speaker 1

I em I mean, he's classics.

Speaker 2

Fifty years fifty years ago.

This is twenty twenty three.

It was made fifty years ago, so just blows me away.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that is crazy when you really think about it, right, because we can still relate to it.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, it's still very very relatable.

I talk about you know, relatable kids cartoons, right, Like, you know, the Smurf weren't relatable, Alvin and these are cartoons that I loved.

Alvin and the Chipmunks was it relatable.

Super Friends wasn't relatable.

Charlie Brown or the Peanuts Gang all very relatable.

Real kids emotions, real kids fears and thoughts and whatever.

The only other cartoon I believe that I've seen that that is so relatable and so lifelike with you know, the way kids think and the way they feel is probably Arthur.

You know, we're getting out of the eighties now.

Speaker 1

But I love me some, Arthur.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's that's that's a good one.

All right.

So have you gotten all your thoughts out on Charlie?

Speaker 1

Oh my goodness, I think so.

I sure enjoyed watching it.

Speaker 2

I did two.

I mean, it's it's become tradition.

Now we have to watch it every Thanksgiving.

I have to watch the Christmas one every Christmas.

Got a lot of Christmas stuff to w I.

Speaker 1

Mean, we're going to be busy, and we're already busy without even the list of things we're gonna have to watch on TV, right right.

Speaker 2

No, you know, I don't even know if we'll even be able to turn on the TV during December.

People if playing so much stuff for us, I know.

But you know, if you liked, if you liked this episode, if you like cartoons, let me turn you on to a podcast that you may enjoy, and that is called Cartoon Commotion with my good buddy Cad and Jiggy.

Cad does an excellent job of giving you information about cartoons that you probably weren't aware of.

I mean, he breaks these things down like like he's a professor in a college game.

He does, and he's got so much enthusiasm for it so much passion for it.

You can just tell.

He's great at the social media game as well.

You can find him out.

He's all over the place, But I would recommend tuning into Cartoon Commotion if you like cartoons.

He does all the retro stuff, mostly eighties and nineties, but it's not all eighties and nineties.

He did an episode on Top Kat which was a hand of Barbaro cartoon from the sixties.

So yeah, he's he's great, and he knows.

He knows his stuff.

Speaker 1

He knows stuff.

Are you going to ask him about woodstock?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm sure he knows.

I'm sure he knows what kind of bird woodstock is, and probably some of the other questions that we had that we weren't that we weren't sure of.

But yeah, I definitely check that out.

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

So do you think we'll get another Thanksgiving episode out before Thanksgiving?

Actually hits?

Speaker 2

I guess only time will tell TBD to be determined.

Speaker 1

Well, Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Enjoy whatever regional dishes, additional dishes that you have.

Speaker 1

Now that I'm an adult, now that I'm in charge of cooking, you know, go to McDonald's and get a hamburger.

It really doesn't matter.

It's all about being thankful, spending time with family and friends and making memories.

No, really doesn't matter what you eat.

Speaker 2

I'm a glutton.

It's all about the food.

Speaker 1

Well, it's all about the pie for sure.

Speaker 2

For me.

All right, well until next time.

Speaker 1

I'm Jim and I'm Lindsay, and we are children of the eighties.

Speaker 2

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