Get into Gates.

The series finale of Stargates at Atlantis.

Those words taste weird coming out of my mouth, Maddie.

I didn't even really think about that until you just said it.

That's series finale, man, this is wow.

I mean yeah, if you're on our Patreon, you would have seen my immediate thoughts.

It's mentioned, Maddie.

But god again, the series finale of our second show that we've got.

We've now covered fifteen seasons of Stargate television.

You know who you listen, well, you know what we covered it the other week.

Sometimes people don't actually know who they're listening to, but this as well.

Well, when I feel like I feel like my voice is undeniable, people still seem to be like, I don't know whether you're Mitchell Brendan sometimes and I'm.

Like, what good news for me, bad news for him?

But yeah, it finished, and I just I threw up a little video sort of, you know, teasing my immediate thoughts.

And Patriot he's seen that.

Even I haven't seen that yet.

I didn't even know.

I don't know, man, I just had a weird thought, like again, I know I spoke about it a couple of weeks ago when when Brendan was here for Brainstorm and I talked about the fact that, and I think in the next couple of episodes, I just sort of I had this sort of growing sense of uneasiness because I haven't been in this territory before, like certainly on the podcast, I've not gotten to a series finale that I wasn't aware of, you know, like i'd seen unending for SG one fifteen years earlier than recording it.

You know, like I didn't all.

The other finales that they kind of ended the show on, but then it would keep getting out.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

So this one, this one was really weird for me.

And because in the last four or five weeks worth of episodes, I'm heading into this and I know that the show got canceled and they found out well, as Giro put it, he knew about or before he told the cast, but you know, were they able to rectify the final scripts or the final script for this episode to reflect that it was a series finale and not a season finale.

And then the fact that we didn't get a movie.

They were hoping to get a movie, but wasn't going to be like SG one, where well, we have wrapped things up, but we've certainly left it open enough that if we want to come back and tell more are story and a telemovie.

I don't know.

I just I was getting uneasy about the fact that we're heading into the final of something, and for me, this is this is very much a first for the podcast.

So yeah, interesting times and what a time to do it.

Christmas Christmas twenty twenty five.

If you're listening to this in delay, that's when we're releasing this one.

So Merry Christmas, Maddie, and you know, happy holidays, yes, happy old days.

Oh you guess for depending on what you like saying at this time of year.

If you like saying anything, I don't like saying anything.

Okay, are sure you're not brand it with that black heart?

I skip the whole.

I say happy Year.

That's about it.

A great yeah, hope, hope you have a great year.

By this By this point, you're just like this year and just look forward to next year.

You know, enough for you with your your adult your adults are Jesus, you know, I'm sorry, nor your child Jesus.

Jesus is adult Santa.

Yes, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah sure right, Oh the final synopsis for Stargate at Atlantis.

I just realized, well, did we do Penultimate last week?

I can't remember whether we got your favorite Penultmanent in there.

I can't either, and typically would.

We would be able to say right now what I thought were be able to get for you is this is the synopsis for the finale of the Penultont series.

But that's not even true anymore, not anymore, not anymore.

A couple of weeks ago, if we did this episode, it would have been true.

But no, no, sir.

Another prology is about last week, we had to swap studios halfway through the record, and I said there would be a slight change in audio.

I just thought because we're using different microphones, not that the microphones in the other studio are shit.

So just know that what you heard was actually cleaned and tidied up by my beautiful audio producer friend that does not get paid to do any sort of work on our podcast, but I just asked him to do me a favor here and there.

So what you heard, even though it still sounded a little bit off, that's so much better than than what it was when.

It was raw.

Fine, It's ony Vegas.

I know right.

If anything, it kind of fits kind of like ghost the Machine, the fact that that was a lost episode, got lost in the machine sweping when they start listening to me, swiping because I'm always right.

Please feel all right, Please feel good about this one because I want to.

I want to.

I want to be good about this one.

Episode twenty of C and five Atlantis rushes to destroy and advanced Wraith high ships, very advanced at Wraith Hive ship before it presents a threat to Earth.

What do you think?

What?

What do you think?

Of course we get the short one for the final episode.

That's just great.

Well I teased, did I say it on the on the pod or is it off Mike?

A couple of episodes ago that okay, Look like I said at the top of this, I don't know what's coming on Avenue, what was coming with this?

I've managed to escape this for fifteen sixteen years not knowing what.

So the beginning of nine, right, this episode, beating of.

Eight beginning what oh no, I've written that down wrong.

The beginning of two thousand and nine.

Yeah, nine, yeah, so we're nearly we're nearly at a seventeen year Holy shit, We're nearly at a seventeen year mark since this episode came out.

Heading into the podcast, the only episode of Stargate Atlantis that I had ever seen was The Pilots, and I watched that the first day that it came out on DVD.

Lincoln and I went down to our local JB High Five, but the box set came back.

Watched the Pilot, absolutely loved it.

Lincoln pushed on with it.

I couldn't for some reason, and then just never did.

And then this announcement comes that Stargate is coming back in some form.

Great.

We did a podcast on it.

We speculated about what it could be, what we might want from it, even though we get very little information obviously online our own discord Going Crazy, or the online discord on Twitter and threads and everything else in between Going Crazy as well.

Stargate fans rejoice, we're finally getting it back.

But I saw and I cannot remember whether it was a tweet or it was a thread or something on truth Social, because obviously and it started off and it was like a little preview.

I must have it must have been like a notification on my homepage and my phone, and I must have just seen the top of it, and it's clicked on it because with the new announcement of Stargate blah blah blah, and it seemed, oh, I want to see what they have to say.

And it was one of those things where your eyes betray you because they start looking at things that you know you don't want to look at.

And I've looked down to see it was like a little gift essentially, and then I've I'm kind of darting between that and the text before I knew what I was looking at.

And then once I realized what I was reading, it was far too late and it said, well, obviously with Atlantis now in San Francisco, and I'm like, oh you Saliba.

Wow.

Seventeen years ago this episode came out and I never knew a thing about it.

But then I knew a thing about this entire series beyond the first episode.

I knew that Carter was in it at some point, and that was king it.

You have a brother who lives and breathe this show, who never once in seventeen you accidentally mentioned something nothing.

You and Brendan for all the things that you say you didn't want to spoil, but you did nothing big.

You never spoiled anything big, Neither of you hinted, none of you laughed.

All the stuff that you have audio a little big asterix on it a point that holy hell, man, I went so so so long, and I was within weeks of watching this episode and I read Atlantis is now in San Francisco.

And that's not something that you can unread or unsee or unhear.

Man like, yeah, because it's.

Not even like after a visit to San Francisco or something where you're.

Like, oh, you know, by the end it'll be back to normal.

No.

So I went in probably two weeks after reading that, I watched this episode and I thought, okay, you can't.

You can't undo that.

Where they say the genie is out of the bottle, it absolutely is, well technically go back in the bottle.

So I always feel like there's been a flawed analogy.

That's true, the toothpaste is out of the tube.

You can't get the toothpaste back of the tube.

Very true.

You can try, no, but that's more like with our little thing where you can squeeze the tube and it's you know, like vacuum.

I'm not going to and just just try and enjoy it anyway, just try and enjoy it.

And you know what I fucking did.

This is a cool episode.

It just gets going.

And yeah, off the back of Vegas last week, which you had said in that podcast, Oh this whole thing, Yeah, it's an alternate universe.

It comes into play for like a line of dialogue.

That's all that this served was then having a bit of fun, sure, and the writing and the directing and the whole production, but the actual like effects of this episode and this story, this narrative doesn't really come into play like they suggest that it could.

And then we get here it's like, oh, yeah, we just picked up this thing just yeah, I don't nowhere.

Maybe from another reality.

Okay, let's see.

Oh well that's it on the wraith Ive ship is heading towards Earth, and all of a sudden, it doesn't really matter what happened last week because we've just got to fix it now.

It's that we're dealing with the consequence.

And yeah, it's just I don't know, it's fine.

Like obviously, the threat of them coming to Earth, it's like that's nothing new.

We've seen that with the with the Gold before.

We've been very very very familiar with the idea of like them or the area and people big bads trying to find Earth and just take over because of our sheer numbers into the billions and all that sort of stuff.

But there was still something kind of fresh about it being the Wraith and I don't and just again the tod of it all sort of coming back into it and picking up on those threads in the other week where he's like, I won't forget this and so we're going to bring him back into the fold, just in a narrative point.

But yeah, no, it was.

It was fun.

I really enjoyed it.

And then yeah, the way that it ends, it didn't.

Again, there was a lot to running through my head in those final minutes where Okay, we're going to it didn't even I knew that we were going to sand Fran but when they were going to land, it's like, oh, no, they're not.

This is going to land somewhere randomly in the ocean.

And then all of a sudden when they actually look out the back deck and you can see the Golden Gate and you're like, oh, okay, So the CGI kind of let down before because it looked like we were just literally going to be in the middle of Pacific.

There was no land anywhere, and we were a couple of hundred feet off the water, and then we're there.

It's like, holy shit, we can't undo this.

Now we're not just like out there and like a random cruise liner has went past and found us.

We're in the middle of San Francisco Bay.

We wouldn't even there be too.

I think we were facing west, so yes, because it looked like it was almost sunset sort of so where we were.

So they weren't inside the bay.

That was something they spoke about in the audio commentary because they tossed up.

Originally it was going to be the.

Statue of Liberty, right, and then Paul was in the Paul Mully was in the audio commentary without Joe, which was weird that he said.

Yeah.

So the original idea was they talked about having it Atlantis, being parked aside and looking out onto the Statue of Liberty because they're like.

Well, what, what big iconic.

Iconic landmarks can you look at from from the ocean, And then when they sort of looked closer, they went, well, no, you can't be looking at the Statue of Liberty from being out in the ocean because it's too tight, like there's just there's not enough room.

They would have had to have, you know, cut everything off.

So they went, okay, Golden Gate Bridge.

But yeah, they were specific like saying like, well, they weren't inside the bay.

They were still out in the ocean, right looking west, looking west at the Golden gate Bridge.

Sorry looking east, Yeah, looking we're just kind of looking towards this because I'm like, yeah, that proximity as if I know, but I was there a couple of years agogos, I'm a travel passport, but I'm like, that's basically where Alcatraz is.

If they were looking west, yes, if that were inside the bay.

Yeah, So okay, the little line of dialogue where they say there's like an exclusion zone like the Navy seven.

But it was kind of cool, which is fine.

But they didn't.

Land there obviously because people would have seen, so like Atlanta's landed somewhere in the middle of the ocean.

And that was the other thing I was saying is that was originally going to be the final shot, but then they realized, well, if you just have Atlanta City on the ocean and there's no landmarks, around it, then it just looks different there on the normal planet.

So they had to put it, you know, somewhere.

But yeah, so they ended up being that it's outside in the exclusionary zones.

Was something moved there at a certain point after they'd landed somewhere in the middle of the ocean.

Yeah, and then the oh we're under cloak.

No one's looking.

I'm like, oh, okay.

So theoretically, like, had that movie had like the idea that, okay, that this fan on Twitter or threads or whatever saying yeah, well Atlantis is in sand friend, I'm like, well, not necessarily, like, if they're going to pick it up in real time, it's been nearly two decades since this happened, they would have just taken off again.

Like they would have been there a weak max yeah and gone.

According to the audio commentary Pulse, this was basically as much as I gave shit to Martin Guiro a couple of weeks ago, and because that's the only time I've ever done it.

Yeah, this is the one hundredth episode.

This is you know, if you look at Rising as being a part one, part two, two episode thing, this is one hundredth episode.

So this script was largely unchanged from what it was going to be had the show not been canceled.

Okay, so it was already written to be all this stuff as the one hundredth episode, as the big.

One hundred episode, so had SG one did and it was actually Vegas because it was like, let's be sane.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's what happened with Scrubs.

When Scrubs got canceled the first time, or it got it got a short season because of the like the two thousand and seven writers struck whatever, so then it got like a thirteen episode season and the final I don't know how much of Scrubs you've watched, but the final episode was like a fairy tale episode where like they were telling a story overall.

Final episode originally.

Was going to be so it wasn't the last episode filmed for that season, but then when they thought it might be the se is finale, they put it into the last spot, and a lot of the fandom, including myself, was like, yeah, ah, that's kind of a shit way to end it.

And then it came back for like season eight, season nine or like, so it was fine, but had that been the final episode, I think it would have really tarnished what that show real really was.

So I note only because it's a couple of weeks away in real time.

Are you excited for the revival?

Yeah?

Absolutely, I've seen there's got a lot of the old hands back on, right, like most.

All of them.

Yeah.

Yeah, so yeah, I'm very interested to see how that goes.

I saw like the little clip of it, and I was like, holy crap, most of these people haven't aged since the show finished.

It was pretty good.

Yeah, I'm very I'm very hopeful to see that when it comes back.

Yeah.

So, like that's what pisses me off more about reading what I read is that what he said wasn't even true, Like the idea of Atlanda is still being in San France, Like no, it's not like that's where we left it.

But like, had the movie have come out a year later in real time, like the release date came out, you know, it was a year later than this finale, we could have just had them back on that planet in the Pegasus Alexy yeah, and not even had to explain how they got back.

It's like, yeah, fine, yeah, rehabard blah blah blah.

And if you think about it.

The reason this show had the final episode be their one hundredth episode is because they're only doing twenty episodes a season, whereas SG one was doing twenty two whatever it was.

So if you remember, the one hundredth episode was like midway through season five anything like that.

So had this episode fallen on that same kind of schedule, I one hundred percent believe that the next episode would have picked up of them back on their planet in Atlanta, you know, I mean it would have just been like, but yeah, I think I think whoever you know ruined that for you was obvious one of those people that's like, oh well, unless it's explicitly stated, then it didn't happen.

But you have to factor in, like there's so many things that we say happen in every episode happen off screen where somebody gets caught up on something or you know, they're just they're informed about it off screen.

You just have to you have to roll with that.

So, yeah, there's no way Atlantis would have stayed because they haven't solved.

The Pegasus issue.

Like by the end of this episode, yes, they stop that one Raith hive, but the Wraith are still you know, destroying the Pegasus galaxy.

Yeah, there's no way we would just go, oh, well, we're here now, so we just we'll just we'll just keep it here and look after our own.

Like there's no way Taylor would have Taylor's people are still back in Pegasus.

They don't explicitly state it.

But I don't know if Canan and uh, what's her baby's.

Name, torron Torn that's it.

I don't know whether they were on Atlantis with the Athosion.

Yeah, when they said to her and to Ronan like, hey, we're like we're heading to a different galaxy now, Like, you guys don't have to come right, you can stay because this is not your fight, And they're like, well, like any other fight, Yeah, we're coming.

And I'm like, yeah, cool for you, bro, because you're like a lone wolf.

She's Ethosion married.

I guess probably she's at least part of that up.

She's got a kid.

I'm assuming he's got the kids.

She was always a leader of the people.

Yeah, like, like, she probably can't make that decision so easily.

And if anything, that goes more to the idea of like, well, that's just what would happen in a season finale, because we know that she's going to come back in season six, and she'd be back with her family.

The idea of like, well, we tried our best in the Pegasus Galaxy and now we're just here on Earth.

It's like, what about these other people?

I mean, you can just stick them on the dedaliss and fine.

Yes, because technically as well, like with Atlantis here, like in the Milky Way Galaxy, there's technically i think no way for us to gate to anywhere in the Pegasus Galaxy because I'm assuming it's a two way thing, where with the with the eight chevron address you can only because they talk about the controlled crystal in Atlantis US being the only ones being able to dial yeah, yeah, and I'm assuming it's the other way around.

Like I don't think even with a zz PM attached, I don't think Stargate Command could just dial up any stargate in the Pegasus Galaxy.

No, So I like the idea that it's as well, where you know, in Christmas time, that if there was a bit of a home effect, that like there was some team of Theirs out on mission that accounted for they all of a sudden can't dial back to Atlantas because Atlantis isn't there.

But they you know again that the planet they're on, they can get in a ship, they get there for some read whatever.

They get back to that planet and they're just looking around this ocean, going, there's nothing in it.

What's the line?

My whole family disappeared.

I made my expedition disappear.

And they're just like, that should have been Kavanaugh.

That should have been Cavanaugh.

That's what he should have been doing.

Oh yeah, excited to make everybody.

Yeah, the all hands on deck here where he just pops up there like what are you doing here?

It's like I'm doing this and I'm like, yeah, I guess if it's a series finale, we better bring back all of our old favorites.

Yeah.

Now, another thing that that stuck out to me only because it's like it was a big thing in SG one.

It was a big build up in SG one.

It was a massive season fin season seven finale of what we find.

Obviously that then led to become Atlantis itself.

So I guess literally the episode called Lost City, Yeah.

It's kind of poetic in a way, but the idea of like what we found in the in Antarctica and with the with the drones and the chair and shit like the like the sort of like Last Defense of Earth, that the of that that ancient technology that we have used on occasion, and then we get this where it's kind of just off screen.

They're like, oh, yeah, we moved that, don't worry about it.

It's like, okay, cool, we're using it.

No, I just got destroyed, And I'm like, are you fucking joke?

Like it's kind of like, you know, giving your neighbor your toy as a kid, and then without knowing he just like he doesn't even bring you back the broken pieces.

He's like, oh that, No, I broke it and I just chucked it out it out You're like what sorry?

What?

Like That's what it felt like to me watching, Like I'm not you know, I'm not only a Stargate fan because I love the Antarctica, you know, the chair and the drones and the ancient technology blah blah blah, but it felt like that was such a special thing for the SG one series, and then in Here Atlanta it's just an offhand thing in their finale that oh yeah, we're using it, but on the rath of just destroyed.

It's gone now we can't use that.

We've got to think of something else.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's at least two other episodes, like alternate reality episodes where those alternate realities make the mistake of moving the chair to Area fifty one.

I'm pretty sure the one where it was like President Landry and when Carter got you know, flicked over.

I'm pretty sure that universe got screwed over because they moved the chair to area for every one.

And I feel like there was another episode somewhere, like an alternate universe episode where maybe even continuum, where like the chair got moved to Area fifty one and then it was destroyed.

So it was a dumb move, Like I don't know why they would have moved it there, But I also don't understand the logistics of how much we know about it.

I wish we knew more.

Obviously in Rising, there's the base there now at mc murdough and a like kind of stuff, you know, where we where we pick up with all these all these characters at the start of Rising.

Yeah, and they're studying things and all that kind of stuff.

But it's like, okay, so if the chair was moved weird.

What about is there just a big warehouse in Antarctica filled with drones or did they have to move that as well?

Like is it Wi Fi?

Does it need some kind of connect Like I want to know more about Like does that mean Earth doesn't have Like I understand, we don't have the chair anymore, so we can't control the drones.

But do the drones still exist?

And could they fit those drones?

Could they give all those drones to Atlantis?

And Atlantis now has you know, a top up of drones?

I mean you got to think that they've got the a way to get a wholes of them and harvest them or something.

Yeah.

Well, and there's a chair in Atlantis, so they're able to fire drones.

So is it is it a way of them just getting a top up of weapons?

I mean, you know, Brendan spoke about it before, is like, it doesn't make any sense that Atlantis doesn't have some kind of facility.

In the city that makes droves.

Yeah, we haven't found the room yet.

Yeah yeah.

So yeah, so there's a lot of questions surrounding that.

But yeah, maybe that's something they'll pick up in the in the new series, Like yeah, Earth doesn't have the chair anymore, and it is a blink and you'll miss it kind of kind of situation.

But yeah, is it also going to be a situation where they'll they'll go to Proclus Taro Nass and rip that chair out and go and put it in.

Back on Earth.

When they have a gate that blows up, they just go and steal the gate and it's it's all okay.

Well, so that was like a big thing for for SG one here though, something is very big for SGA that I honestly for a second believe that they were doing, and that was killing Ronan.

You know, going back and watching it now, I wish they did.

I kind of wish they did.

And see in that like because you know, like you'll sit there and watch a think the movies the other day with my boys and my youngest he's eight, and he turns to it one says, yes, I don't think the person's really dead because the main character doesn't die sometimes they do, buddy, and he's like, oh, and it like kind of broke his heart a little bit, even though quite clearly the main character in front wasn't dying and didn't end up dying, but he was I think at eight, he thinks he's got it all figured out.

I'm like, no, that's why we need more deaths in TV, and you need the main character to hit the demise.

But yeah, imagine, now this is a spoiler for Toy Story three from hasn't seen it.

Imagine if the end the Toy Story three that actually will ended up in.

I only spoke about it the other week.

I think maybe all the kids, and I said, I honestly thought that they were going to do which doesn't make you watch it now, and I was like, of course they are never going to do that.

But watching that as someone who grew I was you and I were in that nice like generation with regard to the Toy Story we were Andy, right, so we're like ten ish or so, depending on where it was it ninety five, you know, I was nine, your ten, Like, we're roughly Andy's age, and they were moving in real time.

We get to twenty or twenty ninety the ten when Number three come out and he's getting ready to go off to college and like he's late teens, early twenties, and it's like, yeah, that's kind of what I was.

Early twenties, you know, you're in the early twenties as well, and we're kind of in that space.

We've got toys and figurines at home, and we probably played with more than what Andy stores at that point in his story.

Buch a different conversation.

I literally just bought some bark Mass from Ass Toys.

They arrived, so.

And like, I honestly watching that was like, oh shit, they're going to do this, And what a beautiful ending that they all get to go out together.

I cried when they're all like reaching for each other and holding each other's hands.

Yep.

And then now it's like they're going to release number five in six months time.

You're like, oh, yeah, well of course they would never going to kill them.

You know, I saw a TikTok where some evil, evil children probably I guess our age did to their parents is they did a little edit so because there's a moment there where it fades to black, they they intercut that with the end credits, so they they're watching with like their sixty year old mother and.

She thought that's how it ended.

Brilliant.

Yeah, And I'm like, that is so devious.

I hope that's our own head canon for like ages.

Yeah, yeah, toy story five.

It's actually it takes place between two and three.

It's a whole it's a whole Tokyo drift scenario.

Don't think about it too hard.

And you know, you watch, especially in TV, you watch a death of a character or a fake at death, and you don't feel anything because it's well, that's not how a character goes okay, like you know, hey, awful things.

Let's make it someone else that we know driving today, they are in a car accident.

They're not having a char accent.

After they speak to their spouse telling them how how much they love them and their kids, and by like finally like getting approval and something for their house.

They're family going to be looked after, or they've just after they've won the lottery or something, or they've achieved a certain thing.

We don't get that.

In real life, like those movie moments where they're like, Oh, I'm coming home right now, babe, I'm on my way.

I've got some great news for you.

And just so you know, I'm I'm not angry at you.

I was never angry.

How could I ever?

I love you so much and I can't wait to spend the rest of my other bang Like, we don't get those in real life very very very very rarely, but in TV, especially what you finish and movies we get we get far more of them there, but especially in TV because there's more episodes to work with, and they've got such a restricted duration of episodes or episode length rather, that you can kind of work out when one is going to be real and when it's not based on when in the season it falls, or at what point of the episode that it falls.

Also when someone seemingly it gets shot and they just like, oh, there's their body and they move on, You're like, well, no, that's not how a main character, or even someone like Ronan who is not the main character but one of the core four or something.

That's not how their story in this show ends.

But there was enough of it in this that I thought, well, you know what it is.

Ronan.

They've given him up until maybe fifteen minutes ago in the series finale.

He he's made a bit of a sacrifice play for one of the main characters that has been there since the original the very first episode, and they sort of still lingered on him on the ground as he was fading away, and I'm like, holy shit, no that this they are actually killing him.

And then it plays in my head being in this room with you guys where I've speculated, I'm like, oh, if Stogo it overcomes back, like imagine if they just threw all their money or Jose Moore and said, can you come back and do like a cameo episode or a cameo appearance or something, and you guys like that's nice, and like it didn't mean anything to me at the time, because I thought you're trying to like savor you know, not so much spoilers for deaths or anything more so just narrative or just like, let's not talk about that.

That's not the point of what we're talking about in this episode.

And then in those like again mere minute it was between that the fake out and then him essentially being brought back to life, I'm like, holy shit, Maddie and Brennan had done it again.

They're hidden the fact that this guy who at the time was like, yeah, he's recognizable, but.

I finally perfect him my poker face.

Damn man, this episode just threw me around.

Yeah.

What I thought was interesting is they'd almost kind of set it up in the end of last season when when Hologram Rodney was like telling all the song stories of everybody and he kind of went out this way.

He was tired at the time, but he kind of went out that way doing the sacrifice place.

So think about that.

Yeah, so it's like I almost, yeah, I almost do kind of wish they had done it, But then I think they would have needed a two parts to do it because how quickly everything wraps up where they all just kind of walk out onto the balcony at the end, and it's kind of that happy ending.

It's like we wouldn't be able to really have that without the steeing of.

Ronan being there.

However, I will say to anybody that hasn't watched the Buffy finale yet, which again is another show that's coming back that they've just been filming, there is a beloved character who not one of the original Scoobies, someone who was brought in at a later date, stuck around for a long, long, long long time, has a very brutal, unceremonious death in the final episode, and there is not a lot of time that is spent on it, just because of the tone of the episode and the you know, the futility of life and death and all that kind of stuff, and the I feel like it was specifically done to yeah not get that TV moment.

Yeah, it was just the randomness and the the unimportance of death.

How you know that a person on the world is dying right now, and another one right now, and another one right now, Like there's nothing sort of special about it.

So yeah, maybe maybe two thousand.

And nine me would have been crying into my pillow and being like, it's not fair.

It's not fair.

I can't believe they did that.

But twenty twenty five.

Me is like, well, yeah, like, I know, you guys have laughed at the you know, me and my love for twenty four but like, you know, Keith Sutherland as Jack Bauer was the guy for that entire series.

They had like a little revival season that was about someone different.

But I remember, I don't know how many they made.

They made eight, so I don't know understand.

Okay, so he got twenty four to twenty four episodes whatever, each and hour it's the whole day.

And then for season nine they did twelve episodes.

Cool, it's still told in real time, so it's still technically twenty four, but I'm like, well, why not give us whatever is obviously weird?

Maybe I don't I don't think that there was like a year's break and it was like, all right, we'll give you one more.

But half the time.

Maybe maybe it was a money theme.

I can't remember what the story was, but okay, even so for the first eight seasons, and I can't remember at what point, And Keifer Sutherland got interviewed and he said, I can't hope they do it some stage.

Okay, probably sounds fun to an interviewer.

He's like an executive producer.

He wants to get paid, so he's going to want to stick around as the lead actor as well for those residuals.

But he said, I think the show at some stage should kill my character, just to prove to the audience that at any stage, some one can die, like anybody can die.

And that I remember the season four pilot, you can't really call it a pilot.

The season four premiere episode, and a character that was pretty main for the first three seasons gets assassinated in the first I don't know three minutes of the show.

Is that his daughter, No, no, she she was she was a round of the back rend but they had an a strange relationships.

They could sort of bring her back in an hour whenever she wanted to.

That's the only actor that I know because she went on and did that show Happy Endings.

Oh she and that Yeah, yeah right at La.

Yes, And obviously as men of our generation, we all remember the girl next door.

Yes we do.

Yeah, that was at a pivotal time in our upbringings.

So it was the premier episode of season two or twenty four when she's walking around and we'll talk about it on my twenty four and twenty four podcasts Suddenly.

You're getting into my house.

They can see on twenty four sound a little more interesting areas.

M Yeah, so like, yeah, I just think that, you know, it's I don't want to see more of you know, favorite people die, Like I would have hated to have seen Jack O'Neill die at some point, but well, and it's stick yeah a couple of sure, but like even when they brought him back for Atlantis, and I'm like, they're not going to kill him off in Atlantis, but it would have been a very well deserved death, Like he would have went out like a fucking hero.

What if that's the opening scene of the new show, the death of Jack O'Neill.

Yeah, I mean that's like the impetus of something.

Yeah, Like I hope they don't do some like Okay, Richard and Anderson is still kicking.

He's just an executive producer.

But it starts off and it's like at his funeral or something or a couple of episodes in and they just decide what to what to do with him there.

But I mean, speaking of real world deaths, it was written into this episode obviously the scene with mentioning General Hammond, Yeah, which I think was perfect in the way that I mean a tapping came back to this episode.

Very cool.

Well, they owed that anyway, because like she got the she got the Weir and the Ford contract contract where she had to do she finished best season and then was contracted PLAD to do four episodes or whatever, so she did those at the start of the season, but she still had one left, so and they obviously had planned to bring her back for the hundred ths regardless.

But I think the fact that it was Carter speaking about General Hammond, given that she's the only one that really where was Landry is the off world no, he was like he was in Washington dealing with home world security.

I think something like that.

Yeah, so she was just in command while he was off coordinating with all that kind of stuff.

I kind of like that because for someone like Carter, you're like, well, as a viewer, you trust her, yes, like with every fabric of your being.

And so when she's sitting there going, oh, I've got to make the decisions here, and you're looking at the stress and the thoughts that are running through a million mile an hour in her head, and you're like, well, regardless what happens, man, I trust it, you're going to make the right call here, because you always have.

But I think that added to the to the tension of the episode.

The stakes already pretty high, but throwing in Carter and showing that she was under pressured, I'm like, oh, yeah, this is actually really It's not like, oh, Atlantis, there've always been a little bit sort of you know, over their head, you know, yeah, when you've got nothing against weird.

But she's not a military commander or anything, so she had to make negotiating yeah, which she has had to make, have been forced to make military decisions and things like that, or Wolsey, who's not a military person.

He's a politics gun, you know.

And also weird at the time, very very early on, like still very green because Carter's been doing this for thirteen years at this point, you know what I mean.

So we are our trust in Carter is implicit.

So when she's stressed, you're like, oh, okay, no, this is a stress situation.

Yeah.

So now I love the fact that she was back.

And then I don't know if you realize, but it's when they were talking about the new Daedalist class ship, the Phoenix, and how it had been renamed the George Hammond.

Again, if we go back to the season finale of season four when Holographic Rodney was telling everybody's stories, when Carter went out in the Sacrifice playing her Daedalist class that was her in command of the US Phoenix Roight.

So I don't know, because she does say in this episode that's her next appointment is she's going to get command of her own Daedalus class ship.

So I don't know if that if she gets the George Hammond or not.

Yeah, but.

Can you imagine that, like like Colonel Carter commanding the George Hammond.

Yeah, I think.

I'm seeing stargate returning, and she is, and I'll get her.

That's one for this.

She's the Jane Way of her own ship, and it's the Hammond and it's Carter.

And we already love Carter.

You love.

That's a demotion.

That's a demotion if she was if she was getting that, she was getting that in two thousand and nine, mate, everyone's saying she should be the general of the SGC.

Absolutely told me to get to twenty twenty five.

Yeah, I know, but like she might like being out there in space traveling around doing stuff.

You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, maybe I love me some Carter, I do.

She's she's gonna.

I was going to give it to myself, but now I'll just now I'll give it to you.

How dare you speak ill of Carter?

Not that you did?

You just no, no, no, she's you know, yeah, the same way I would say, I would say valaml Duran is no Eron Swton, you know what I mean?

And that's usually the same the same actress, you know what I mean?

So Red Red Redsdakov from Orange is the New Black's Yeah, same actress, but whatever, whatever her name is from Sanctuary.

She was doc doctor magnuson Sanctuary.

Yeah, Magnus, Sanctuary is.

Uh not to continue on with the st chat.

But even this morning, my you know, knowing that I was coming and do this, my kid said, oh, you know, when did you first start watching Stargate?

Actually?

What my boys?

He first he said star Trek and I saw a Stargate he said, oh yeah yeah.

And then then they asked about Star Trek and I said, your kids have asked about Star Trek.

It was more just hag me in coach and I said, They said, how much of that have you seen?

I said, I mate, like nothing, I've seen nothing of of Star Trek.

Really, you see the JJ films, you haven't seen any three films and nine episodes of Discovery.

Yes, so you've not seen you see you've seen some weird sci fi ye, but you've never.

Seen anything with a Star Trek paint chob on it.

Yes, on the.

Daedalus Class ships.

There is a line in here.

Well.

First of all, I do love the moment where we got to see Colonel Ellis get his ass kicked, because I still hate that guy.

And I know, floating in space frozen stiff we're smiled.

She smiled.

She absolutely had a little grin tremor through the cosmos.

Yeah, in the force.

But yeah, we get a line in this episode where the Odyssey is unavailable and it's on some top secret mission.

That you will get resolution to in stargeting.

Oh yeah.

No.

When I heard whatever line of dialogue and it in the grand scheme of this episode, I'm like, that doesn't mean much, but there was just something about it.

I can't even remember the exact word, but as it was spoken, I was like, Oh, I feel like that's universe related.

So okay, good, I'm gonna have to probably go back.

I'd like to go back and just rewatch this anyway without the pressure of like what am we going to talk about the podcast, just and also try and get through and just enjoy this without knowing about the fact of where the Big City ends up.

Boody.

Hell, I'm still I'm not even that I'm honestly, you know what, I'm not that pissed about it, because I still enjoyed the episode.

Yeah.

If I would have come out of this and went, oh it all hinged on the fact of this like reveal at the end, I would have been filthy, but no, it was just a good episode any yah, just.

That little just that little last shot, last enjoyable shot.

I do think it was weird though, that.

The last line I believe was like I'm about to say, Bacado was Wolsey saying oh roun and welcome to Earth.

So many times, bunch of times, a bunch of times, Like.

If you want those people that like you want to get Earth, He's I think I've done.

I think I've seen it.

You know, Do you want to go and have a look around?

He's like, no, no, well there's a famous prison over there.

He's like, I don't give a shit.

Yeah, He's like, the last time I was here it was John's father's funeral and there was an awesome buffet spread.

Where can I get a buff ace?

Yeah?

Show me the food?

Yeah?

Show me where can get like the biggest beer I can find?

There's a strip club nearby that probably sounds appealing as well.

I guess you know this bridge, it's called the Gold It's actually not gold though, like we just call it that, but it's actually like.

This weird sort of and there's no gate attached.

To it, and it's like you want to see that, It's like, no, do you want to ride a bike across it?

Now?

It's like that's the thing, like anywhere you go, like here where were living?

I love Brisbane.

I love Brisbane.

People come here and go what should we don't know?

M Well, a lot of places.

I tell him to go outside of Brisbane because I'm like, well that's what I like going.

You know where.

There's probably landmarks here that they advertised about Brisbane.

I'm like, yeah that, I see that all the time.

Someone in Sandfran, which I know they hate the terminology Sandfralogy, Yeah, yeah, you got to.

I think I think they like s f You can't say, you can't call it Frisco and you can't.

Call it hate Frisco Frisco.

Yeah, we said Sandfran when we're there, and they're like, oh no, you got to call it San Francisco.

It's like some people here call it bris Vegas and we're like yeah.

Even Brizzy Brisy on our radio, so she'd be like, hey, what's going on, Brisy, and like no one says that.

Yeah, I hate you know what I say now when I'm on air, well, iasionally say Brisy.

Oh I can hate myself, you know, I'd be slapping myself when the La Canus was here earlier this year.

Yeah, I found myself having to take them outside of Brisbane.

So it's like I took them up to the Steve Irwin Zoo.

I do them to the Gold Coaster, Movie World and Dreamwall and all those kind of things.

But there was one day where I forget what we were doing, but we just walked along South Bank and they were amazed, Like when they got to that creepy dodgy beach thing, the artificial official beach that we have here.

They lost their king's over that.

They were like, this is the coolest thing other.

And I'm fair if anyone hasn't been to Brisbane, this is mainly for you.

If you have and you're familiar with it, and I'm sorry, but like on a on a really nice day, which to be fair, in Brisian Brisbane, I said Brisbane.

It sounds like I said, Brisban.

In Brisbane, we have more good days than we have.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

If you're there standing in front of that artificial beach, beyond that is the Brisbane River, the Brown Snake, a giant river that just encompasses and cuts through like everything in the Greater Brisbane region.

You've got this artificial beach in front of you, with lifeguards, with lifeguards, the full like golden sand, all that sort of stuff, and probably the you know, odd patch of kids you're in the water, and a dodgy needle somewhere who knows.

I'm sure they keeping the band aid just floating.

Yes, absolutely, And then you've got the river in front.

But beyond that, and then beyond that the other side of the river is the city sky.

When you're in Central Park in New York and you look over and you're in this you feel like you're in the bush, and then suddenly there's just this skyline of all these beautiful building.

And it looks amazing, right, And that's what that does.

At that at that beach, I'm like, this is a beautiful picture right here.

I'm like, I'm standing here on the concrete next to an ice cream shop or a tourism You get your little gifts and knickknacks and things.

I got this beach, then a river behind it, and then the city.

Like it's like, none of it.

This doesn't make sense in that order.

That shouldn't be like, so I get that I get that they would.

I'm just wondering what the ship Rona would actually give about San Francisco about even though I do love them.

I love San Francisco.

It's a beautiful I supposed to go to Vancouver this Christmas break, but that's not happening.

Yeah, yeah, I got to get it.

I've gotta get it to Candia.

So yeah, like I want to say that, like, yeah, he wouldn't have.

I wonder if it would have been like one of those like I went on a cruise this year and we'd get to where do we go to Vana Watu and New Caledonia, And there were people that didn't even leave the boat.

I'm like, why are you on this trip?

If you're coming on an international to go to a beautiful tropical island and you don't even leave the boat, that's me, that's me.

I think you told me that.

Last year I went on for my fortieth I went on the Disney cruise and I forget where we stopped on the it was like four day cruise.

I forget where we stopped on the first one, maybe Mexico maybe, I don't know.

We didn't get off.

We got off at the next stop, which was Disney's Private Island.

Ris did one well, except the person I was with we went on on a Caribbean holiday and then went to this fancy beach and they wouldn't get in the water, and I was like, why would you come on a on a Caribbean holiday if you don't like order?

It was weird.

It was a weird experience.

So a couple of bits of trivia that we need to run through just so I don't get some angry DMS.

One which I thought was a nice little bookend, is Beckett.

He was the first person we saw in an ancient chair in Rising in the first episode.

Oh yeah, he's the last person in this.

Episode that that's kind of fun.

Different chair because of it's the Atlanta different good call way.

Well done, well done.

The Uber Hive for lack of a bit is the now.

I haven't done the math on this.

I'm just I'm just accepting that the Internet is being truthful.

This is the twenty ninth Hive ship that we've seen destroyed since the series began.

Well, yeah, there was that that period at one stage where we had a whole ton of them, right, so we counting.

I guess those giant maps that we saw.

It was just like a light that just disappeared, as like there's a IP ship.

There's a IIPES ship disappearing.

You know, they went they ancients with us.

Sorry, I'm not ancients replicators with their replicator ships.

I though they were like both.

But maybe no, you're right, maybe let's not pretend I know now.

Something we didn't mention obviously was the appearance of Major Davis, which was very exciting for me because I love Major Davis.

I still maintain he should have replaced Daniel Jackson instead of Jonas, even though I love Jonas more so now than I.

Did back at the time.

I've forgotten that you'd suggested that that is that is a that's a fun idea.

I mean, I wouldn't have not that I enjoyed seeing Jonas.

It's like in hindsight knowing what became of Jonas and how he was treated.

Yeah, and a big shout out to Currentemic because he is the wrap up of every single episode of our podcast broadly, so absolutely, and.

Of all the Stargate podcasts.

We are the Jonas with the US.

Yeah, but obviously we've got Major Davis, but we also got Walter, which was great with a little bit of Walter, which which leads into the fun bit of trivia.

So Carter, Walter and Major Marx, of all people, are the only characters to appear in Unending and Enemy at the Gate.

Wow.

Now, if anyone who doesn't know who Major Mars is, he is the guy that's always in the in the other seat on any of the three or fours Dedalus.

He's always the guy they've got major marks.

Make that ship go away, make it gone.

Yeah, this was another extended episode according to the DVD.

Yes, yes, yes, that's how I watched it.

I was in the divodis.

Forty three minutes fifty five seconds.

Doesn't feel just like what an extra minutte?

Okay, maybe we don't know.

What no, no idea.

I think maybe there was some talk around the scene you referenced earlier about Wolsey checking in with Taylor and Ronan about if they wanted to cut a lot.

Apparently the fan was like, that's a really weird sort of scene to put in there, and I think maybe there was talk that, yeah, that would have been the first scene too.

Fair enough.

I could see what would have been cut, But I actually liked that it was there.

Yeah, me too.

Yeah, it did give it a sense of finality and it's like, yeah, we might not be coming back, but yeah, I did like that, and that tied with Roan at the end when he's in the hospital bed and Shepherd is like, oh, we'll get your home soon.

He's like, I'm home.

Yeah, that's nice.

That's nice for those keeping count I'm not.

But he's been pissing me off this season, so I just wanted to point out this is yet another scenario where Shepherd has tried to do a suicide mission.

With a nuke.

Yeah, he did it at the end of season one.

I felt it was a couple more times he's just decided to make a suicide.

Man necessary.

Yeah, maybe he's the one that should have done like a sacrifice play instead of Ronan, and he finally finally just got to just edge himself completely and knew himself to pieces just to save everybody who knows.

Maybe maybe in the same way we talked about Hammond back in the day, used to just you know, just rub one out, just trying.

To beat the.

Wildfire or the or the or the countdown.

John's just in the in the puddle dropper by himself, just beating himself furiously, just just time it, just trying to time it right to the moment before the nuke goes off.

Who knows.

And then Todd Todd was a weird one for me.

So he's back to normal in this episode after what two episodes ago, being like, Oh, he's got to go and do it really dangerous thing where he's going to go on mind meld with the with the arrageous bug queen or whatever and have sex with her or whatever to get back.

And now he's just back to normal.

He's like, yet be worked, I'm good, I'm fine.

And then the kind of Diosex macin of oh and by the way, here's two more fully charged these edpms that I've had for over a year at this point, and I'm like.

Men did imagine it?

And I was just like and again this was my criticism of be almost sins Remembered, is like, why didn't we, as Atlantis people, earthling people, with all our resource, why weren't we and we were down on the surface, like Rodney and Ronan were down on the surface, why didn't we try and collect some zspms?

I understand from a writing point of view that made things too easy.

And I do remember someone, maybe on Patreon or maybe in the discord, saying, oh, maybe Earth didn't view them as real zz edpms because they were created by the replicated instead of the ancients.

Maybe good enough of this episode, and now we've got three.

So I was like, that's a bit weird.

But what I thought was kind of poetic is Todd's final line in the series kind of wraps up the series in an interesting way.

It's all as well, your home world was saved, you and your friends revived, and all thanks to my zero point module.

That's right.

Question is what would happen next time?

Is there going to be next time?

Oh?

Well, yeah, no, that was it.

That was how they wrapped up the Todd storyline as well.

Yeah, because if you think about it, then they go out onto the balcony and Todd still being held prisoner in Atlantis essentially so, but yeah, I just find it interesting that that was his last line and then there wasn't a next time.

Oh well, yeah, Like I don't know.

I think maybe because I'm so used to the idea that this is as far as it went.

I don't feel completely dissatisfied.

Like, I don't feel like there's so much left on the table outside of like, well S g One got ten seasons, or if we were going to break it down, it got eight seasons and then two like epilogues or something.

Yeah, it's interesting.

I kind of think about it as if we just got unending and we never got the Arc of Truth.

I feel like we would still be satisfied in terms of ye, like we said, they're still going doing all their offield missions.

They're still you know, doing all those things.

It wasn't a finite ending.

So I kind of feel that same way about Enemy at the Gate, is that it's a satisfactory ending for the episode and feels poignant, but we know it's not the end of the story for all of these people, and they're still going in the you know, in the Stargate universe pun intended.

Yeah, So it's interesting.

There is a part of me that goes, would I if I had the option to go back in time, And it's like, okay, well, instead of us getting Continuum, what if they did Arc of Truth and then did the Atlantis movie and we got those two movies to finish up the season.

But then it's like but then we never would have got Continuum.

And I really like Continuum, and it's like, ah, and if Continuum couldn't guarantee them enough to get the third movie to finish off.

Atlantis, what would have you know what I mean?

Continuing was pretty damn good.

Yeah, So just to that being like the last taste of sgu one in your mouth was Gould related, right, you know, there's a lot of great stuff in there with with the ari and the idea of it, the concepts that maybe they were hoping for that season eleven or something like that, and they had big plans and that it was itself the show was going to be unending in a way, but I don't know, just it'd never quite got off the ground the way that they were hoping because of that, the deadline of the cancelation or whatever.

But then to get your Continuum as your last taste, you're like, oh, well that's good, okay, Google, let's go out on that.

Whereas yeah, this, it's like okay, yeah, fine, I didn't think about it like that that.

It's like that could have been their movie, could have been an Arc of Truth where it's like oh okay, cool.

Yeah, It's like kind of what we've already got, but just bigger, better or something.

So I'm not completely let down by this being a finale.

I'm just and I listened back to and editing the podcast last three four or five episodes.

I was growing ever so concerned that we were heading into a knowing what you guys had said about the fact that, hey, they really wanted this movie.

Joe Flanagan was going to buy the rights to it so they could produce it in some form, in some medium.

The story of that movie that we're heading into a cliffhanger.

And I was already disappointed and let down and sad because of that.

And that's not what happened.

We don't get a cliffhanger.

We're on Earth.

That to me is not a cliffhanger.

They just yep, fire in a you know.

M and has got three.

Yeah, yeah, just just just plug it in and we're sweet and even though the raithness of it all yep, fine, cool, like in the ends, you know, the the overall storyline of this series has not been to protect Earth from the Wraith, but it has been a threat that's like pop self up ever so slightly before this was just like a big one and then we've ended that threats and yeah, we never get another episode.

Okay, that's the world we're in.

If we get another entire season.

Cool.

This doesn't feel like this doesn't feel hardly enough what we're talking about before.

This doesn't feel like the Toy story three that if we were going to get season six, we would have been like, oh really you're going back to that.

Well, it would have just felt like a season five finale that just happened to have a big finish.

I don't think.

I don't think SG one should have wrapped up with Daniel dying in season five.

I'm glad they kept going.

It just felt like, again like we were talking about before, a big character dying that just didn't last either.

Anyway, because also the idea that Daniel dying means there's no more stories to tell puts too much emphasis on the Daniel character.

Yeah, gotcha, you know what I mean, Like, it's just like, oh, well, no, of course they're still gonna be out there fighting with the Gowald and doing all those things.

So yeah, I guess because we didn't get the finality in this in the same way we did with the gol world and even the Orri.

I kind of I think retroactively, I've always looked at the Wraith as almost like a natural phenomenon, like you know, you can prepare yourself for that storm on the horizon, but you're not actively trying to stop it, like it's always going to keep coming, like there's always going to be bad weather or whatever.

So I kind of look at the Wraith that way, and that it's it's part of the circle of life in Atlantis when it comes to that kind of thing, like the gould were doing it for vanity, they were doing it to rule, and they wanted hot posts and all that kind of stuff, whereas the Wraith we are we're as a food source.

And it's like, so, yeah, well, if the Wraith suddenly ceased to exist, what.

Kind of repercussions does that have?

You know that on the Pegasus galaxy.

Obviously it's good that you know, there's not these regular cuttings and all that kind of situation.

But yeah, I don't know that the finale, like say they managed to eradicate the Wraith, I don't know if that's a satisfying because we've spent so much time trying to find a way for them to not have to feed, to coexist all that kind of stuff.

The thing from a couple of weeks ago where Todd was like, well, without the need to feed, what are we basically as a culture?

What are we?

You know?

So, I mean, I would like to think that the living conditions in the pegasas Galaxy are better for the average you know, ethosion or Jeni or whatever it may be.

And obviously, you know, there's only a couple of episodes ago we got the revelation that's like, oh, well, now some of these planets are starting to you know, group together and form their own governments and all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, maybe we'd like to see a little bit a little bit more of that, but yeah, hopefully maybe something in the rebit at least we even get just some some lines of dialogue.

Yeah, they're just and surely with Giro, given that Giro did really work on SG one.

I think he wrote a couple of episodes, but he's an SGA guy.

Yeah, that was the show that he came in on, that was where he spent most of his time.

I'm hoping that he will at least be able to include a few bits and pieces and maybe he wants a little bit of that closure as well.

Yeah, definitely, Oh yeah, it's at least going to be passing reference in there in there somewhere for sure.

So that's what I'm looking forward to.

The you know, I don't I mean again just I mean, we've spoken about it many times throughout the podcast, the idea of them doing a starg at Command type series, and I've thrown around, well, yeah, don't even focus on one team, And okay, for television, you probably want for that audience retention, you want it to be about a certain group of characters.

But we can focus in different or just utilize the world building that's already been done fifteen, twenty, twenty five years ago whatever, And have you know the SGC on Earth and have the base in Atlantis, and then have you know different Alpha sites out there, and you know whether or not there's a third galaxy that's got something on and don't look at me if there's something to do with that in a universe, I have no idea.

Not looking at you, not looking at you, but moving on.

You know that we could utilize all of that and for the idea that we could get a brand new show from a lead creative of Stargate Atlantis and not get some even just offhanded reference through dialogue of what not even what became of it, but just what's what it's doing now?

Like, yeah, it's back in the Pegasus sclexy, it's back on.

Maybe it went back to its original planet.

Maybe they found a way.

They're back in the original planet from the first three seasons.

And nice because we never got any resolution to.

That that skybeam and now that the what do you call them replicators have been destroyed.

Yeah, you would assume there's no power that thing.

So the bloody Flag of sallus a break from being.

Oh the flag salaces the Flaggers Salas, back to the fragiic Salas.

Yeah, I'll be assuming that beam didn't just like cut through the entire planet and planets lit in half like you did that asteroid.

But yeah, because otherwise in ten thousand years, when the next what do they call it coronal massage actually comes through.

The flatger Salas did, we don't want that.

Think of the Flag of Sallas, got.

Somebody, think of the Flagers Alas.

What's the deal?

You know, win friends with Fledge of Sallas.

You know, bloody hell s g a, mate, that's it.

We're done.

Then, Oh my god.

Yeah yeah, well hey, hey, hey, and look we went this entire episode without making a really bad dad joke pun about the fact that it's called Enemy of the Gate.

And then the last shot was of the Golden Gate Bridge.

I remember the enemy.

I just thought about Emmy at the Gate being I mean, I know it's a it's a term and stuff that my thought goes, bet, there's a great war film, the Jude Law.

That great Will Smith film, Enemy of the State.

Oh, what a movie.

I haven't seen that in a long great show.

I do remember enjoying that.

Yeah, that was my favorite movie for a long time.

That came out when us twelve, so that the Symbers.

I like the idea of like government conspiracies when you're twelve, you're watching that, like especially back then when like the idea of satellite and phone tracking and stuff.

Now it's like, oh, mate, I'm carrying around a device.

Yeah, I know, the government of tracking openly putting my own details in here.

Yeah.

Yeah, so we're dumb, Mitch far out man.

We did it.

Joe Willigan, get it, say.

Yes, thank you, here we go.

I we will be back for a rank.

Yeah, especially after what Mitch has got on his phone, He's going to need a rank.

God, I'm.

Yeh.

I was gonna say, oh, we've got some other stuff to tell you, but we won't tell you that because we'll just wait until next week.

Yeah.

When I finished the season, well we finished the season, but we finished the season of the show.

We haven't finished the season of the podcast.

Still one more episode to.

Come wrap up twenty twenty five.

Yeah, in a big way with a release I mean rank.

That's how I like to see the day day, let alone in the year.

Sometimes start the day.

Oh, that's that's the best start the day.

I don't have time for that.

Ship made work now, Yeah, you were four in the morning.

We start next year and the day you know, I wake up at eleven am in a king sized bed by myself.

Yeah.

The whole thing they're like, start, what does it spend New Years?

The way that you want to spend the year and all that bullshit.

Oh you ever heard that?

No, I'm just thinking about what you're saying, Like, what a way to wrap up the year of like you're doing that at eleven fifty nine?

Yeah, maybe like a twelve oh, one.

It's like, what does that say about your next twelve months?

Even if you're doing in a twelve oh one, that's a long time made.

I wasn't saying start.

Oh, I was like, I was assuming you're putting a bit of marathon in there, like, oh yeah, I was.

I wasn't saying it.

I wasn't talking like a pig orgasm.

Oh it's two minutes, oh yeah, fifty nine to tweve o ones or the two minutes that was the joke.

That's a long time yeah, yeaheah, yeah, I was trying to do your favorite by saying that.

That was just the well, I mean, maybe that's why going back to the whole Disney thing then, But so I'm done Disney because I'll just spend New Years to treat my own by.

Do you like an amusement park?

That's what it did it Disney, and you're actually just not allowed back it.

Feel bad?

Yeah, I know, I feel bad about that.

I didn't know Magic Mountains never looked the same.

Splash Mountain.

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