Episode Transcript
Get into Gate episode two hundred and eighty five.
It sounds like it's, you know, a mark that I like five so I deal with unifives and tens.
It should mean something.
Hey that that comes from Maddie, I Mitch, that's Maddie.
Speaker 2Hey.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, Hey, we can't actually play that behind because Spotify will take us down.
Speaker 2Can we play the acoustic version from Scrubs?
Speaker 1Sure?
I mean I don't know whether line, what's his name?
What's the guy's name?
Zak Brat's gonna come in and you know, maybe send it, send a notice.
Speaker 2Well, the guy that sings it is dead now, so is that better or worse?
Speaker 1That's certainly worse for me.
That makes it awkward.
Yeah, really brought me by that.
Speaker 2One, Ted the lawyer, I can't remember his name.
Now that's going.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I like that guy.
Speaker 2He passed away a couple drink ovid passed away.
Oh god, I had like a brain in urism.
Speaker 1Oh it really, it gets a lot better.
I'm glad I made fun of that at the start.
Speaker 2So aplifting start.
Speaker 1Let's get into it.
Mitchmitch, Mitchmitch Richman.
Any of the old synopsis for episode A number fifteen.
What of season four of Stargate Atlantis outcast Shepherd and Ronan meet Ava Dixon, who has created a dangerous human form replicator.
What I thought they were gone?
That has escaped and must be recaptured at all cost.
Anyway, I'm sorry, but that just happens to be how I feel about it.
What do you think this one?
Speaker 2What do you think?
Oh?
Speaker 1I mean part of me?
I last week, remember I came in hot and I was like, nah, I'll call that evil sister of the princess who was the secondary character of last week?
What?
Speaker 2Who the evil one?
Speaker 1Oh?
Thank god, I thought you had been disgusting there for a second.
Speaker 2Man, Come on, little mister Laris is number one there, and you're telling me you didn't see the cans and the evil sister last week.
Speaker 1On the Lives of My Children.
I will swear that I didn't.
Wow.
I was too busy looking at her evil face calling out going eil.
I knew it certainly wasn't doing it to this guy, Like obviously there was, I mean a couple of things going on.
At the start of this.
You get the notice that I'm sorry, John, your father has passed, and then it just randomly cuts to someplace on Earth, I presume with some woman who's like got surveillance photos and stuff of John and articles about his dad, and like what the's going on here?
Okay?
And then we get to the house and now I know that actor that plays his brother.
I don't know his name.
I can't IMDBM or anything.
Speaker 2Like you chat amongst yourselves, and I'll look.
Speaker 1He's not even one of those faces like he has been in a lot of stuff, like a lot of TV he pops up in and now he's got like a very he's very handsome.
He's got that sort of all American type look about him, right if you're outside America, he's got got that like you know, it' tall.
He's got the jawline like he's got them.
He could be built if they wanted to jack him up or anything like that.
Like he's just got that sort of look about him.
But he's also got to look like he could be some conniving, you know, backstabber and and you know, maybe a cheating husband or a guy that tries to you know, you know, run you around at work sort of thing, like you know, coming and early clients.
Speaker 2And I know where you know, him for where do I know him?
First credit with his name's Dylan Neil and when you opened up on IMDb.
First two credits.
He plays Bob in Fifty Shades of Gray and fifty Shades Freed.
Speaker 1I mean I've no, I haven't seen Freed.
I've seen gray and I've seen Darker reluctantly.
I mean both reluctantly.
Let's be fair, you know what the first little side note, I watched Fifty Shades of Gray.
I believe the way that they intended it to be watched with no pencil at the drive in.
Oh so poor quality audio and visuals only because it was pissing down with.
Speaker 2Rain in the back seat doing some yellow pages.
Speaker 1No, my wife was breastfeeding, Oh very sexy.
Speaker 2So wait was there a child in the car When she's breastfeeding you?
Speaker 1She shades a gray mate like we've all got our own kicks.
Yeah, but I do not remember him.
But he's got that look.
He looked like he could be the main guy from fifty s.
Like he's got that look about him.
Right.
Speaker 2Twenty thirteen to twenty fourteen, he was in ten episodes of Arrow, where he played doctor Anthony Ivo.
Speaker 1I probably, yeah, you know what.
That might be the most recent thing that I remember him from.
Again, I bet doctor Ivo is a bad guy.
That was just a round, right, So he's got Ivo was.
Speaker 2I think he worked at what's the Insane Asylum in Gotham Arkham?
Yeah, I think they worked at Arkham probably, or he created Amazo the robot.
Speaker 1Okay, well, I mean Arrow was you know, the CW's version of Batman in many ways, so yeah, they probably stole their character as well.
Speaker 2He was Hermes in Percy Jackson The Lightning Thief.
Speaker 1Definitely saw that, but when it came out one hundred years ago, I had him pegged in this episode as being something begging.
Speaker 2That's another thing you'd like to do with the driving.
Speaker 1Well again, fifty shades are great.
I don't know that.
It wasn't like I was he killed his own father that I'm like, there's something going on with this guy.
What's going on?
Speaker 2It's in twenty episodes of Dawson's Creek, where he played a character named Doug whitter.
Speaker 1Apps, And again he would have been like the main like you know, antagonist to Dawson or to Pacey or something like that.
He would have He's got that look about him man, like he can play that guy.
So when they bring him into this, I thought that's what he was going to be.
Now when you first see I think, is it the is it?
The brother walks over to him and maybe the ex wife.
Speaker 2Either way, Nancy.
Speaker 1The credit pops up and says it's based on a story concept by Mate.
So I didn't read that in the synopsis.
Speaker 2The loops they had to go around where it said not just they didn't just give give Joe a story credit.
Yeah, they had to make up this thing that says based upon episode concept right by Joe flanagansuse otherwise.
Speaker 1It's like it's Stargates at the one O one written by Alan mccarch and directed by Andy mckeita, right, So like we've got a lot of mainstays there writing directing it.
But yeah, so say it again that they've given it.
Speaker 2A story instead of a story credit.
He's not based upon episode concept by Joe Flanagan.
Speaker 1So like he walked into the room and go, you know a really good idea if we explore maybe Shepherd's dad.
Speaker 2Yeah, we don't know anything about it.
We don't know anything about Shepherd.
Speaker 1Why do I make him have a brother, and that's it.
That's it, that's probably what happened.
Yeah, Joe, if you're listening, obviously you did more work than that.
I'm just saying what the credit suggests.
So I'm like, oh, this will be interesting.
Okay, cool.
So we get to explore his family, even the fact I'm like, going, do we know much about him?
And Ronan says, why did you never mention you had a brother before?
He's like, it's complicated, and I'm like, yeah, right, And it would be complicated if you get called back from the other side of the universe to come to your dad's funeral, you meet up with your brother who you don't speak with anymore.
There's clearly a lot of shit going on between you two and has for a long time.
And now we're going to get to explore that while something else is going on on Earth.
And that's why we saw that that woman there and then he leaves and I'm watching it and I'm looking at the time code and I'm not joking, gout to what the episodes of forty one minutes and forty seconds, right, it was at forty minutes and fifteen seconds, so a minute thirty five until the end of the credits.
Yeah, and still there was no like, they hadn't mentioned the brother, they hadn't mentioned the father.
There was nothing about about John's family, nothing, And I'm like, they actually can't.
So the beginning and the end of this family thing was him getting a call your dad has passed away.
And the end of it was after five minutes of episode time when he leaves and says to his brother, no, I'm not here for his money, and he goes, well, Dad really wanted to make up with you, and it sucks that you guys didn't leaves.
That felt like it was going to be folded up by something else.
And then with literally a minute thirty five left on or not even minute a minute five seconds almost left on the running time of the whole full episode.
Speaker 2Forty five seconds of credits to go at the end.
Speaker 1Well, then in that case they're with, yeah, thirty five seconds left to go on the episode, they still had not made a second mention, and then all of a sudden, he's like, ah, something I gotta do, and I'm like, oh, okay, here we go.
Speaker 2Nancy got three scenes.
She had the scene on the bench, and then she got the scene in the car where she found all the information for him.
Speaker 1Yep, yeah, and he goes back and open the door, get in here.
Speaker 2Yea.
Speaker 1Now, who do you get the idea who's who's who's older, who's younger.
Speaker 2I believe your heart throb guy is the older brother.
Speaker 1I mean it would make more sense for a like, you know, the oldest is like, no, yes, I'm gonna do what daddy and mummy say, and the second guy's like, nah, you got my life planned out for me.
But I feel like like Joe Flanning and because of the scruffy hair that that shepherd has, and maybe he's a bit more weathered because of the ship that he's seen.
He is, but almost look, and I've got a weird thing.
It's like if you're shorter, Like like, I'm the tallest of my family, but I'm also the oldest, you know.
It's like I'm taller than Link.
Link is taller than our sister Jamie.
That's the age, right, Like I look at other family members and families that I know like that that it's obviously not a rule, but just the people that I grew up with and people that I know friends, right, I think Brendan's taller than Ree's right, and then they've got their younger sister, Like it just works out like that.
So when I see two brothers and one's taller, I go, yeah, you're the older one.
But in this case, I when Joe or rather John got two sisters, two oldest sisters.
Yeah, so it's a weirder rule.
Yeah, And I'm thinking, who is the older did you, like, did you let your father down so much because you were the oldest and he had your life planned out?
And you're like, not me.
Whereas the second son comes along and sees his dad and wants to impress his dad and doesn't want to make the mistakes that his brother did that his dad said were mistakes, not that they were just in that house, and just wants to do whatever ever A daddy, you know, said, I don't know, I would have liked to have explored shit like that.
Speaker 2But you can choose your an adventure, because Holly, I did google it.
Dylan Neil as of twenty twenty five, fifty five years old, and Joe Flanagan as of twenty twenty five is fifty eight years old.
Joe is older, is a.
Speaker 1Life years and beautiful Saltan pepper beard that Joe Flanagan's had the last couple of years.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, looks still more salt than pepper is as we go on.
But yeah, me too.
Speaker 1Oh mate, I'm doing that.
I feel like I'm not even going to go gray.
I think I'm gonna go white.
I'll be Steve Martin, like at forty ogbi, you know, white fox Sarah identify.
The other night, I was like, I was having a shave, and I don't I have a clean shave, a clean chap, but maybe once a year.
And I was just sort of trimming with the electric thing on my face, getting down to that sort of like very short stubble, and then I had a couple of you know, long ones in the in the old yeah, you know, And I thought, I'm not plucking them, not pulling out scissors.
I've got the electric thing and I'm going to take the risk by holding it up and just trying to anyway.
She sees me do it, She's like, what are you What are you trimming?
And I'm like just sitting down.
I got like one or two like long ones.
And then she said, have I have I like mentioned to you yet about like maybe like maybe coloring those or like just like subtly, And I'm like, have you subtly mentioned your eyebrows dyeing my eyebrows?
There's no coloring them, like really subtly?
I said, well, I mean no, you haven't.
I'm automatically like all that can sucks.
She said, you see people as she said her mom went and mum got to a certain age and was, you know, coloring her hair.
She wasn't coloring her eyebrows.
And then so she goes, eyebrows will aid you, because people will dye their hair, but they won't do the eyebrows, and the eyebrows tell the truth, right, Like that's it.
You know.
People are oh, I'm a natural blonde.
It's like your eyebrows are the darkest shade of brown.
They are all fifty shades of brown.
Speaker 2I used to use clear sel wipes on my face and they had bleach in them.
So when I would accidentally just kind of like you know, swipe the outside of my eyebrows, the outside of my eyebrows would go like blonde, bleach blonde.
Yeah, so had to stop doing that.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I've been known to every now and then just to get rid of the salt and pepper sometimes I'll do some of that just for men, which just a little rins through.
Yeah, it just doesn't see.
Speaker 1I haven't done it.
It always No, I'm going to grow age gracefull.
I'm not gonna I'm gonna do that.
So if we're gonna get bald, I'm gonna go bald, we're gonna go gray or white, I'm gonna go.
Then that first, that first non like dark brown chest hair that I saw, I was like, yeah, oh no, I mean that was years ago.
Now there's a there's a whole camp side.
Speaker 2Of migrating south.
Speaker 1Oh yes, well I haven't got that yet.
That'll be that'll be the real tester about how I feel.
So yeah, Joe, I mean stunning, stunning bit oh my god, it's glorious.
Well there you go.
I would naturally look at Joe and go, we're the older brother.
So I wouldst like to explore, Yes, there you go, I'd like to explore.
Not that that matters, but maybe it did, maybe the relationship, but it just felt like, hey, here's this cool, interesting content.
Look at this look replicated human made replicate through every here.
Speaker 2Apparently no one at the SGC was available.
So even though because I say, Joe, even though John was technically on like like personal leave, you know, he just decided to just go and run this mission about replicators.
Yeah, he knows nothing about replicators.
Like old mate Bill Lee had Doctor Lee had to show him.
I had to explain to him what was it the neutronium or whatever it was.
Yeah, He'd like he didn't even know what that was.
So I'm just like, what, why why was he running this mission?
He knew nothing about.
Speaker 1It, being weird tied into it and like, you know, interesting enough that they've you know, like because I'm watching the previously on, I'm like, why are we going back to this?
Where's the follow up to this?
And then when it opens up and says, hey, your dad's had a heart attack and he's died.
It'd be different if he just had a heart attack, And then I'm oh, so they're going to go back and are they going to be able to use the NATS to try and save his day?
Because that why that was in the previously on.
It's like no, no, no, we're just going to reference that this chick like used to work for this guy that was in the previously on, Like we almost didn't even need that we could have just mentioned his name and if he got it, you got it.
If you didn't, you didn't anything.
Speaker 2After doing after doing two Genie episodes over the last two years, it's like we know a lot about Rodney's family now and Genie and it's not even after the first McKay Missus Miller episode.
We knew so much about Rodney and Genie and all that kind of stuff, and it's like, well, after this, well, his dad's dead, so we don't really know much about that.
We don't even know whether it was it was the reason that he joined the militaries because he didn't want to get on the conveyor but with the family business, and that was his way of rebelling, and we don't really know any of that.
We don't you know, we don't get to see any reconciliation, Like, well we see that at the end, but we don't know how that conversation goes.
Just because he walked in doesn't mean it ended.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, I hate when they do that.
It's just you know, like there's an awkward there's a secret someone's been keeping from another character.
For the entirety of a movie or eight episodes of a TV show and then when they finally like have the guts to go and tell the person they've been keeping it from, it just zooms out.
Music comes up and you see them talking and I'm like, no, no, no, don't puss out, like show me that.
Speaker 2Rite that yeah, like me.
It might have been a little bit of a cliche, but it might have even been more interesting and added an extra element to it if the fact that Nancy left Joe John for the other brother something like that, you know.
Speaker 1What I mean, juicy, or she left him John's been off world for a couple of years.
Yeah, comes back for the funeral, goes, oh why are you here?
Speaker 2Oh, well, of Nancy's consoling the brother of the death of their father and ends.
Speaker 1Up soling his bloody brains.
Absolutely, that would have been because again like she pops in, it's like, oh, I told you I had I was married before to RONI yeah, And I'm like, I think I forget that, Like, is that something we've talked about much before?
Because I forgot that all about Shepherd, that he that he'd previously been married.
Speaker 2He mentioned it.
I can't remember he either mentioned it in Sunday or it was in Sunday and I got cut out.
I can't remember the actual way that worked, but it has been a brief, brief reference to it.
Speaker 1Yeah, and so like for her to like to be the again interesting family thing to bring into it.
That could have just been somebody else that worked them, Like, we didn't need that, We didn't need that connection of him personally to be what gave him the assist in the other side of the episode's story.
That could have just been someone else at the like the fact that meant some bloke, Oh, I used to work at Atlantis.
Great, he could have known someone that could have given the information that Nancy did.
It would have made no difference to the story because there was nothing else interesting about the wife.
Oh, she's been remarried.
Well, she was remarried.
In the first scene he refers to Greg, oh, Grant, okay, good whatever, Like it's not like she had to reveal to him she was married.
He already knew that there was nothing particularly interesting about that character being a previous a former wife of Shepherd, Like, it could have been anybody.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's like and they brought back Banks for this episode as the an ide operatic Hi Away operative and stuff like that, and it's like, well, that could have been Nancy, or you know, you could have got rid of Nancy and Banks could have been the one that got the information that we needed, or you know, you could have amalgamated those characters.
It just and like the the fact that Rodney like copped out and said he couldn't come back, like and that was their way of writing Rodney out of the episode.
But it's like he's the head of his own department.
All.
He basically says he had to go and check on that planet from season one, the Kid episode.
It's like, well, the last time we saw that planet, the check guy what's his name, Zelenka, he went there, you know.
So it's like Rodney didn't have to be the one he could have He could have authorized an entire team to go and do that.
So it's like I would have preferred if they kind of leant into the fact that maybe there was a scene once Rodney walked away from Shepherd that it was a lie because you know, maybe Rodney doesn't deal well with grief and death and stuff like that, and and it came from a place of love of him caring so much about Shepherd that he knew that he would be awkward and make things bad if he went, so his way of supporting John was to remove himself, or you know something like you just, I just I didn't buy that whole thing, that whole stupid thing.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Of Roady being like, oh sorry, I'd come if I could, I'm.
Speaker 1Not because you could, like you know, Zelenka needs help, or Zelenka is on another planet.
Maybe there's a network wide thing of these particular devices that he has to go and fix, like you could.
If you're going to write it, you could have written anything other than ah, I'm just busy though, because of all the reasons that you just said.
I don't know if you've got any behind the scenes information on it.
But obviously Carter is the one that breaks the news to John.
That's their only shot an entire episode.
So I mean, depending on how Hard knows to her manager and an agent want to play this, this could have counted as a as an episode or no contract, right, Yeah, I guess because it does appear in here, like they would have to be so careful if you know, like we were talking about with the Christopher Idle title the other week, where you know, they were filming some stuff and it got put into another episode.
Now, obviously he's still appeed in that episode.
But when they do film stuff and it's not working, let's save it, and they put it in.
You'd have to be so careful with contracts because like, yeah, you're paying me for that episode.
I'm so sorry because it's aired another one as well.
So technically I'm in two episodes this season, So I'd like to say that, like this was literally one shot of two hours that week, yeah, or just you know, hey, can.
Speaker 2You just stay back for a quick five after.
Speaker 1She's filming next week's episode?
Speaker 2Well, spoiler alert, next week is a very Carter heavy episode.
Speaker 1Right, so she that might have been what they did.
They just they quickly use her for an extra ten minutes and maybe her being around for so long.
Speaker 2She's like, Yeah, I actually thinking about it now.
I kind of wish next week and this week had been Remember back in season eight or seven of SG one, whether those two episodes are happened at the same time, the one where we meet Varla and Daniel and they're all from the Prometheus, and then the next episode is Gemini where it's Karter, Replakata, and Tilk on the Alpha site.
Gamma site whatever, and those technically happened at the same time.
I would almost wish that they did that here because next week's episode, as far as I'm aware from what I remember, is predominantly McKay, Carter, and Keller.
It's an episode for them because I think at this point Rachel has given birth.
I'm not sure.
I think I think that's why she's been out of these episodes.
I can't confirm that yet.
Speaker 1I didn't even think about the fact we haven't seen her.
Speaker 2Yeah, so I think she might even be on maternity leave or something like that.
So yeah, I kind of like the idea that maybe next week's episode Trio and this episode took place at the same time, and that at least has five characters on two different planets at the same time.
It mud have been a nice way to tie them in.
Spoiler alert, next week has nothing to do with replicators.
So, speaking of you mentioned before, how you know Spotify will get angry at us if we played the outcast song?
Would they get angry as if we played the opening theme song to one of the Power Rangers spin offs.
Speaker 1Let's try with the four and what am I looking for?
Speaker 2Yellow Ranger?
Speaker 1I just saw her Power Rangers raw?
Is that what parrangers?
Speaker 2Parranger, Dino Thunder Avid Dixon was the Yellow Power Ranger.
Oh right right, TV shirts the one where Tommy came back.
He came back as the Black Power Ranger.
Speaker 1Like what the first time he came back or a lot?
Right?
Speaker 2Yeah he was he was, well, no, he did.
He did a whole run.
He was the Green Ranger, then he was the White Ranger, then he was the Red Turbo Ranger, then he was no, sorry, he was the Red Zeo Ranger, and then he was the Red Turbo Range.
Speaker 1Did read ero?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 1Was that still like the actual ero run before it went to turbo?
Speaker 2Yes, because it went from Mighty Morphin into ero into turbo.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's where I stopped.
Speaker 2And then he left turbo because he was the last one because everyone else had gone by there a good call.
And then this came out and that would have been ninety seven or something like that, and then this came out in like two thousand and one, two thousand and two, where he was like the ored on carriage.
He was like a grown up and he was an archaeologist and he became the black Brachiosaurus Ranger or something like that.
To the there was just three power ranges in that one.
There was the Red, the Yellow, and the Blue and that was it.
And Avia Dixon she was the Yellow Dino Thunder Ranger.
Was she a Kiwi, She's a natural Kiwi.
Her accent was fake.
Speaker 1She she nailed it.
Then, yeah, she did a good job.
Yeah, wow, Okay, I didn't know he did a ero appearance, so just.
Speaker 2To say he's the only read Zeo Ranger, so he was.
Speaker 1I don't remember.
I mean, you know, I did did Mamighty morphin Zeo.
I'm like, this is different.
Speaker 2But you know, the costumes are not good and it's and then the Zords were weird too.
There was like a Sphinx sword or something like that.
Speaker 1But as soon as they got cars in Turbo, I think I was like, all right, yeah.
Speaker 2The other Rangers.
So Kimberly left before Zeo.
She she chapped out in Ninja because that's when we got Cat and she was the pink Ninja Ranger.
Speaker 1And then Billy like there was something between Marty Morphon and Zeo.
Oh no.
Speaker 2Season three of Mighty Morphine is technically where they had the Ninja pause.
The Shogun Megazord and then remember they got turned into kids, and then there was the Aquatar Alien Rangers.
Speaker 1Right this thirty years ago.
I wish that I did because I'm like, well, in my head, I'm like, it goes from Marty Morphin, You've got the movie in there and then you've got ero.
Speaker 2Well, the movie is a different universe.
Speaker 1So you said to me the other week, that blows my mind.
Speaker 2Yeah, because it's a different connunity.
Because at the beginning of season three of Power Range of the TV show, they lose the thunderswords and then go and meet Ninjaw and that's how they get the ninjaswords, which is a different continuity to the movie where they go and see Dulcia on the planet Fados.
Speaker 1So similar story.
Speaker 2Similar story arc where they lose their powers have to go and get the ninjaswords like the frog and the falcon and the wolf and the ape and all that kind of stuff.
But in the TV show they introduced Rita Ropulso, who's Reader Repulse's brother, who's the Skeleton Guy, Camo colored Skeleton Guy, and then they meet Ninjaw, who is this blue robot guy who created the power coins.
Originally dogs like this and that's how they get the Ninja powers.
And then once they get those, they have those same outfits that they had from the movie where they're like the pink and the gold and the red and the gold and the blue.
And then that's when Kimberly left and we got cat instead.
Speaker 1And I have ero memory, and.
Speaker 2They and then they will get turned to kids, and then Ayisha never comes back and she gets replaced by a different girl from the past in Africa who then becomes old, and then they all become the Zeo Rangers and they all go through that.
Billy Billy has to leave at some point because he's growing old or something he gets he gets, yeah, he had to.
He went to like the Aquatar planet with the ladies or whatever, and then there was ero and then in Turbo there was no Black Ranger, so Adam my favorite, had to become the Green Ranger.
And then Tommy left and then that's when they brought in the other guy who became like the new Turbo Rangers, and then the Turbo Rangers became the Space Rangers where they did Power Rangers in space.
And that's only the first five seasons of thirty and it's all there's all continuity.
It all goes from one to the other, to the other, to the other to the other.
Speaker 1So they were all on the same like Earth essentially.
Speaker 2No different earths and different timelines.
But it's like every season there's a crossover.
So like in the in Space episodes, all the Turbo Rangers come back and then in then one after that the in Space, So the previous ranges from the previous year always go and do a little team up episode in the in the following but.
Speaker 1Go into a different dimension or.
Speaker 2No, sometimes it's in the same I'd say probably twenty out of the thirty Power Ranges all take place on Earth.
That some take place at different times.
Like there was the Time Force Rangers who were from the future, right, and then there was more recently there was a diner Charge range.
Speaker 1The show is set in the future, yes, right, they were.
Speaker 2There were Time Force Power Ranger and they could travel through time.
They were kind of like what we talked about the other week that Minority Reporter.
It's kind of like that where they go back back and forward in time stopping things.
And then there was like Dino Charge where they live in a universe where at the end of it, all the dinosaurs come back to life, and it's like directing park you can you can go and see their dinosaurs, so that takes place in a different timeline universe to this side.
Speaker 1Well done.
Oh my god, nerd, that's like that is some high grade nerd shit, right, love there, and I hope you, I hope you take that with the utmost respects, absolutely, because the way you rattle that off was like you watched it all last week?
Speaker 2Do you watch the Power Rangers movie over the weekend?
Speaker 1Did you?
God?
I love that thirtieth anniversary.
Speaker 2That's how I pulled that fatos out of the back of my ass.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm gotta I'm gotta get there with my kids where we're nearing.
We're nearing that sort of stage of the show.
Speaker 2It's a perfect movie except for the CGI at the end.
But that's okay.
Speaker 1It's a little too deep, but it's fine.
It's like they took the TV budget and go, well, how it we give you like five episodes worth to make a movie.
Okay, fine, let's do it.
It's all of the budget.
It's fine.
Speaker 2Your kids are going to feel some things when they meet Dulcia.
Speaker 1I hope, yeah, yeah, probably, I mean Lincoln and I sure did.
Oh yeah, that.
Speaker 2Was a moment.
Speaker 1Still, remember where I was Karendale Cinemas.
I remember having to go to the bathroom when they were on that planet.
I'm like, just get back, hurry up.
I don't think I've ever gone to the toilet during a minual.
Speaker 2Here's I think we've spoken about this trivia before, but the original Dulcia was your mate from the one you love from Laura Order whatever it is, what's her name?
She was originally cast as Dulcia.
Oh and she had to pull out for some other reason or another.
You wouldn't have pulled out.
Speaker 1But oh, absolutely, mate, no, thank you.
Speaker 2I think, of course you do.
Speaker 1This.
Speaker 2This is the music Mitchell listens.
If this, if this is playing in the background of pawn Mitchell is.
Speaker 1Just imagine b having an argument with my kids and like, tell us what happened?
Speaker 2Actually, yeah, no, I do believe there are some images somewhere of in there out.
Okay, so you might gives them googling.
Speaker 1Fuck you think you're googling.
Next time you're on your phone, that's what you're finding.
See.
I say that I'm not a pig.
I say that I'm not a pig when you get Laren and then you bring up beautiful Mushka Hue.
I mean talk about thirty seasons of power ranges.
There hearing thirty seasons of Stargate s for you.
Speaker 2There's the reboot, there's the reb.
Speaker 1Special Victims unit in Space Ship.
We'll start with emancipation, there's sexism crimes.
Speaker 2Say we will start with the last week's episode harmony.
Well, yeah, because we hang on with the victims because we had to watch it.
Speaker 1We've got two grown men wandering the woods with the young girl.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1Interesting, yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 2So okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, It'll be worth it.
It'll be worth it.
I'd love to get some higher res for you.
But holy I'm googling.
There's Mariska Marushka Hargatea dressed as Dulcia circa nineteen ninety five.
Yeah, we worked.
Speaker 1Still might what good?
Speaker 2What how jealousy?
You're rocky right now?
Speaker 1Earlier that one.
Just stop touching him now we interviewed him, right, Yes, it's soup and over.
Imagine if I were to know that, I just like fully like just treat him with such little district Can.
Speaker 2I touch you where Mariska touched.
Speaker 1You can I just speak to you about Musha target it's do she she like filmed for one day and then she left.
No, no, no, no, let's just really break it down.
I got a little real less for you thing going on.
Yeah, and like, okay, so you know, back to the back to the old the old Airpet's like, cool, we're making a replicator.
Okay, great.
I'm like, and I thought they were all gone, okay, well now we're making a different replicator again.
Okay, sweet.
Speaker 2I didn't understand, like, because obviously the big twist at the end is that Ava is also a replicator.
So if she's a replicator and she knew that her and doctor wats his face had created this other replicator who went rogue, she was upset about Professor Guy because it was he was like her father or something like that.
But then why wouldn't she have thought the other replicator was like her brother or son or something like that.
And why would she get the SGC involved to track down this other replicator knowing that there was a risk that then she would be discovered as a replicator.
Speaker 1Well yeah, that's when when they first discovered it.
I just assumed I'm like, oh shit, she doesn't know, Like would make sense because he was very like a blank slate.
Speaker 2I think it would have made more senses.
She didn't know she was replicated.
Speaker 1But then, of course, because.
Speaker 2Then there was the weird reveal at the end where they said, oh, Avid Dixon died nine years ago or whatever it was, and I was like, okay, so is that like a situation from McCay missus Miller where they brought that person back to life, like the professor guy brought her back to life and she was the reanimated body of yeah, or was she fully synthetic?
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't care.
She just don't care.
Speaker 1I assumed it was it was full synthetic, and only because again I was getting a bit like again before they revealed, and again it was so many things happening, right, so it's like, Oh, she's out in the real world, and I'm like, this is gonna get complicated.
And then where Shepherd just seemed like phase out of the park and I'm like, there are people around me, and then he pops out and I'm like, is that the machine that he makes him phase travel like beam traveler?
Speaker 2Oh shit, I believe those are the pods from.
Speaker 1She's in the matrix?
Yeah, and she doesn't know.
Is that a good idea to piss off some AI?
Speaker 2Like?
Speaker 1Are we gonna you know well Mitchell?
Oh no, Might I interest you?
Speaker 2In an episode of a great well and okay sci fi show from the eighties, this trivia I bring to you from the Stargate Stargated lenis Outcast IMDb.
The ending is very similar to The Star Trek Next Generation Season six's Ship in a Bottle from nineteen ninety three, both and in an artificial intelligence believing it is free, but in fact exists in a computer situation played by Niles from The Nanny Oh playing Professor Moriarty, who is oh yeah, little evil Moriarty stuck in a little yeah what that's okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 1I know.
And you know, by this stage last week you'd had you'd had two of them, and you're really trying hard to get a third that I know you could if I know, you are a very nice thing, You're very generous.
But I was I assume again at that point doesn't really matter because she is in the computer, but you know, she's walking around like beautiful actress, beautiful woman, and she's getting around and you know, he's like, what are you going to do?
Well, as long as I don't go and work in any science field, they said, you know whatever.
And part of me was going to be like I thought she was.
I don't know why I thought she was.
Maybe because she looked like she looked like a teacher in what she was wearing.
I thought, is she going to say maybe she got into teaching, like rather than do what she was doing, and and and to go away from the fears about what they might have she could do if she had the opportunity, She's going to go and try and help humans and teach humans and look after young humans.
And I'm like she would be in that moment, I'm like, she would make a great educator because she probably doesn't forget anything, you know, and she would find the best way to be able to teach and to be able to carry all that sort of stuff on and and and you know, put it into I don't know it's in effect, but then.
Speaker 2Every year the computer program has got to create another thirty kids for her to teach, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1Well, yeah, I wanted to find out it doesn't really Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, I thought the more clever way it was because was it doctor Lee or maybe McKay said no, I could have been mackay because he was so Doctor Lee said she would be really useful at the SGC, like she would.
Oh, so I think what would have been a better cover story is to have her quote unquote working at the SGC inside this artificial you know, landscape, so that, yeah, we can use her powerful brain computing power to when the SGC needs problem solved, they can they.
Speaker 1Can send doctor Lee in.
Yeah, yep.
He was the one that sort of stood up for it.
Go give her a problem, give it that real life coding and stuff, and hey, when you just sort out this, she gives it to me.
Is like, I'll take this away because either way I going.
We can't we can't just switch her off.
We can't kill her.
We don't want to do that.
We can't let her out in the real world.
And and you can't send her off off world either.
No one's in for that.
Well what else do we do?
And I'm like, well, now, isn't arguably isn't it like for her?
If you're worried about it on a moral standpoint, aren't you more worried now about the idea, Well, they don't have to be worried, they never have to think about her again.
But morally that she will realize what's going on and she would just be aware that she is stuck in an artificial world and she like.
Speaker 2Fifth scenario, remember fifth, when you got you know, and then suddenly we've got another enemy we've got to worry about.
Whereas Yeah, and it's and it's like if that unit ever loses power, which you know with the SGC happens, you know, then she she no longer exists because it's like they did obliterate her body.
So it's a weird.
Essentially, she's been sentenced to life in prison, but at one of the like cushy you know, white collar prisons, you know, with like badminton and swimming.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's probably a really good maybe there has been because I haven't seen the last couple of seasons, but it's like a really good, you know, black mirror style episode to this where you know, it's like, well, we're just going to transfer your consciousness into this thing as part of a means of like saving space and you know, prisons and whatnot.
We're just going to stick you inside a computer.
But once you realize that, it's like, oh no, you will theoretically be here forever and you just have to get past that.
But maybe maybe that's a more comfortable world for her because she is She knew that she was artificial, she knew she was part of a program, so integrating her into that program, you know, because again when you said is she real or is she you know, is she made of nanits and whatnot?
And which you know, the other bloke was getting in a shot and in a very TV budget, you know, T one thousands, you know, like sparks flying off him in little pieces of metal and stuff, and he never probably recovered that you would get the idea that she is made of you know, time, little shards and stuff.
But had she have been real?
And they're thinking, well, either way, I'm like, what does this mean?
Like if you go off and live in this real world before I knew that it wasn't the real world.
You're a beautiful woman.
At some stage a man or another woman is going to come up and try to hit on you and you're either going to have to turn people down for the rest of your life or you know, you are possibly made with the memories, or you have been at least you've adapted to memories.
You've created your own memories.
You have lived as a human for ae.
You've got a personality.
The other bloke didn't.
But you've got a personality.
At what point do you think, well, I want to explore human emotion.
I want to explore connection.
I want to explore love and what is that?
What is that like?
Then when some shacks up with you, you know, get a little intimate and he's all of a sudden having sex with a robot and he's not aware or you know, or.
Speaker 2What if what if the program think of it like a like a free roaming computer game?
What if what if the programmers of that didn't right junk for all the other people?
And she she does getting naked with someone and then takes their clothes off, and they're just you know, eight bit characters under there because you know, did some of the SGC really go well, this guy is gonna be cut, This guy's gonna be uncut, This guy is gonna be hung like a mofa you know what I mean.
This chick's gonna have a cups, this chick's gonna have d cups like this chick's gonna have Anzac nipples, This chick's gonna have little tiny pointy one.
Speaker 1Now, this one's gonna be on the crazy hot matrix here here, and these guys are got like, you're right?
Speaker 2Or is there a part of Avera's brain that is generating all that herself and she doesn't realize which point it seems a little bit morally ambiguous.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm sure there's at least four episodes of Starget SG one where they have been part of a simulation that was infinite in its like capacity to create.
So it could if she does exist on a computer within the SGC that as Shepherd pops out, it could have just been a line from Doctor Lee saying, well, yeah, she's now exist blah blah blah because of that planet that it like they could have mine had a reference to season three, and then us like uber nerds that remember all this sort of shit gamekeeper or that makes sense, yeah exactly, so rather than us had these questions going, does she leave the park or is the park like you know a bit of free Guy bit of Truman Show where she gets to the edge and it's just like you know, end of simulation and she realizes.
Speaker 2That does she forget and she's just spending the rest of her life walking laps in that park.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, feeding the same ducks.
You know.
Speaker 2I mean, I could spend the rest of my life feeding ducks.
That'd be all right, that'd be fun.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2But yeah, I going in this episode.
I remember the funeral, but I remember it happening next season, I do not it happening now.
There's I remember an Earth based episode with with with Ronan and she spoiler alert, and I thought it was that episode and it turned out to be this episode.
But that's that's all I remember.
Speaker 1Yeah, And I just feel like I kind of like it's almost like they had their shot.
I wish they had it and they'd taken it, but they didn't.
Some torn between whether I want to see a follow up story episode about Shepherd and his family.
Speaker 2Because Nancy basically said, see your buddy, like you burnt this bridge by doing this thing.
Speaker 1But the actress they brought in, I'm like, you're one of those actresses that doesn't just come in and play like a nothing role.
Once you know you're someone that you is, like the wife of the main character, or is one of the you know, a desperate housewife type thing, like you wanted a Core five, you know, ensemble sort of cast.
You know, she would be someone that would come back and again, another beautiful actress come in, maybe rekindle something with Shepherd.
It's complicated.
I've got to go over to North Korea or China or wherever.
All the other bullshit that he kept telling it, I just yeah, there's things that were there that were just to be there.
And then now that I'm thinking about the fact of how long the previously on was, yeah, and all the elements rather than just like, Hi, I'm millionaire, blah blah blah, my daughter is dying.
The nad Night's fixed her.
Now they're not.
And it had to show oh, no, these are my mercenaries going into kidnap you.
Hey, here's your sister.
I'm going to kill your sister.
This is my daughter.
It's like they show too much of that story that was not relevant to this episode.
All we needed was the name and we didn't even need to see him.
But it's like they got to the end of this episode they already threw everything at it went We're coming in like seventy seconds short though, we're just going to need a really long previously on just a really most numbers.
So yeah, yeah, I mean's a better episode than last week, more enjoyable on different fronts than last week.
It's just more frustrating and well like last week was like, this is what we're doing.
It's not going to be great, but this is what they're doing, and it's what they did.
This episode was like, this is where we're going.
Hey, look a poppy and just like walks over shiny robot T one thousand on TV and then what are we doing something quick?
Look at the brother that's right?
Yeah, yeah, done so strange but anyway.
Speaker 2Yeah, this is why season four is.
It's not my fat it However, however, next week, I think you will be in for a pleasant.
Speaker 1Well, the fact that you said it is, I mean, I'll take Rodney, I'll take a thorn between two roses, Carter and Keller.
Rodney, you talk about me being jealous of Rocky from the from the Power Rangers hanging out with Mushka Huga take, I mean just McKay hanging out with Samantha Carter and doctor Keller.
I mean, that's that's a pleasant afternoon.
Speaker 2What you know what the next two week, we've got we've got Trio, and then we've got Midway.
Speaker 1So, oh, Midway.
I've heard you guys to Midway.
Speaker 2So you know we've got we've got a light.
There's a light, so towards the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1It's just a small tunnel that we have to squeeze out of.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, it's it's what's that stallone movie where they're trapped in the tunnel day Break, Daylight, Daylight.
Yeah, it's like that.
Okay, you know there is light at the end of the tunnel.
But we've got to we've got to work together.
Speaker 1If I watch Daylight between now and then, we'll help me watch that.
Speaker 2It's just for the metaphor probably not.
Okay, no, you might, you might prefer it over the season finale, but that's just me.
Speaker 1Ride a season for It's one thing for you to go harm and he's a piece of shit.
They're right off the season finale.
Speaker 2Well, I'm just saying, we got, we got, We're almost done, mate.
We've got Trio, we've got Midway, we've got The Kindred Part one and two and The Last Man.
That's it.
Wow, season done.
Speaker 1Oh, just fact at the top, we're I'm like, oh, episode fifteen, I'm like, wait what, We're just really getting through this, yep, and we've got a two PARTA.
Speaker 2It's weird.
It's we've got two episodes, then we've got a two PARTA, but then the season finale is a single episode that's not part of.
Speaker 1The two part Ah.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, it's an interesting one.
Speaker 1Well, we'll be back next week.
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