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The Late Debate | 15 January

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Speaker 1

When man.

Speaker 2

Welcome to the Late Base.

Speaker 3

Good evening and welcome to the program.

I'm Caleb Bond with Holly Hughes and Joe Hildebrand.

He's what's coming up tonight.

We talked to the other night about how ex Adelaide United soccer player Josh Cavarlo said he couldn't get a game because the club was homophobic, so he had to move overseas well, Adelaide United's captain has had something to say about it.

Turns out the story isn't quite how Cavarlo made it out to be.

What a surprise.

Volunteers for TiAl candidates are outraged because other volunteers working the pole booths during the federal election didn't want to eat their lollies and shook their hands too vigorously.

No, I am not joking.

More on that later, and an Australian Dakar rally champion says he's going to continue the race despite crashing and breaking his collar bone.

You cannot get much more oussy than that.

But first, speaking of things that are really ozsy, complaining about speed limits.

I now I like to complain about speedims because I think they're too slow.

Most of the time.

But it turns out there are some people who think they are too fast.

Weird people admittedly anyway.

But down in Melbourne, in Springvale South, they have some phantom sign person going around trying to lower the speed limit artificially.

Now this started six months ago apparently when someone made up a U turn sign, a homemade U turn sign which I believe we've got an image of you here that you can have a look at, and stuck it up on the road somewhere and said you couldn't do a U turn here.

Now they've come back, that sign was taken down.

They've come back now put up all these signs saying slow down, and they've tried to reduce with a fake sign the speed limit of an eighty kilometer in our road to forty kilometers an hour.

So the neighbors have had to go out and take these signs down.

You can see there on the screen there some of these you see that it's forty and then the actual eighty sign right now.

You can imagine what that would be like as a driver when you see this forty kilometer in our sign, then all of a sudden it says eighty.

You wouldn't know what the hill's going on.

So this is all meant to be to, I don't know, make the place safer, but you'd think that would actually make it far more dangerous because you go forty eighty up.

Now what for these people who want to make an eighty kilometer on our road forty?

It's slow enough as it is.

Speaker 4

I'm going to tell you that looks like driving through the Blue Mountains or Clovermoor, Sydney.

Speaker 5

I mean, that's exactly what happens already.

Speaker 4

I mean you go from sixty to forty and then up to fifty and down to forty, and it's constantly.

Speaker 5

And it's revenue raising.

Speaker 2

Revenue raising.

This is what I had to do.

So driving in here this evening, and as you know, I'm very familiar with speed limits.

You're very well versed.

I've done a lot of hands on field research and but yes, so Clover Moore fairly recently, a few years ago, has lowered all the speed limits in the city and surrounds to forty.

And what they do you go in You're on Paramatta Road aka the Great Western Highway.

It's not a backstreet, it's not a lane way with a little espresso bar.

And people's hips is sitting on milk crates.

It's a main road and it goes down to fifty and bang there's a speed camera as soon as it goes to fifty.

And then it goes to forty just outside Central Station and bang there's a speed camera.

So I have a theory.

I grew up actually just down the road from Springvale South, So just about literally three four stops on the train line south of Springvale is downing on where I grew up, and I can tell you there is no one in that area who's going around doing this.

I think Clover Moore has gone.

I think Clover Moore has taken her speed campaign national and I think she's flown down on South.

She's just going to start at the bottom and work her way up oh Lots Road.

Speaker 4

Today, coming past Sydney Quicker Ground in the stadium, I realize it was forty and I saw it today and I thought there might go some points.

Hope it's not double demerits this weekend.

I mean I was only going sort of about forty eight.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, but you know it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2

Wife, they did catch me.

My wife was driving the car.

Speaker 3

Yeah right, wait until Clover gets away up to Bratton or we've big troubling.

But there's another one as well well.

The way I've been coming into the studio here and you sort of come up towards Central Station, but the road is fifty and then it becomes forty at some point and you're halfway through the forty zone before you realize it's changed to footage.

What is with this obsession with making everything forty kilometers worse?

There are suburbs in Melbourne now where I think Collingwood and a few of those other suburbs just just north of the city.

Speaker 2

They made him thirty Collingwood where the mayor is an actual literal card carrying socialist.

Speaker 5

Which all of Victoria.

Speaker 2

The Red Army didn't move at thirty kilometers an hour.

I mean they did it first, and the Americans gave them all their tanks.

But it is, it is.

It is stagrid because it is clearly, just like it is hard to get a decent car, a real man's car, to go a thirty kilometers you are constantly breaking pulling it back, and you know, looking at the speed to make sure that you're not creeping over and getting pinged by the camera that you know that they've put there, and that means you're not watching the road and driving like a normal, sane person.

Speaker 3

Well, it's apparently for the pedestrians, because the pedestrians is safe if you drive.

So, but what are the pedestrians doing walking in the middle of the bloody traffic in the first place.

Well, and I mean, if you've got to walk out onto an eighty kilometer an hour road and you get bowled over, it's your own fault.

Speaker 5

But so who are these people putting up the science?

Do they know or is.

Speaker 4

It just like because you remember there was a mystery poet jog the giant boot.

Is that sort of like the next thing put.

Speaker 5

They're not poping in people's yards anymore.

They're changing space.

By the way, there's no public minutes.

Speaker 3

There are environmental vandals too, because some of the signs they put up they bolted them into a big gum tree, so the poor old gum tree had to you can see it there.

Why do you have to do it to the gum tree?

By the way, you can be fined one thy two hundred and twenty one dollars in Victoria for putting up false traffic signs.

So hopefully they catch them.

Get what sort of bastard tries to do that?

Speaker 2

And also if you're going to spike trees, have the decency to move to Sydney and to get that's our that's our intellect.

Speaker 3

So you've got that's right.

Speaker 4

But you know, we've got big news of the day is the hate speech laws that Anthony Albanezi is trying to bring in next week as he's recalled Parliament.

Speaker 5

And we may be in trouble if these hate speech claws go through.

Speaker 4

For now saying what we've said about people that put up fakes space science, because that is the issue with this legislation is that it is absolutely failing to pick up what we all know is the problem.

It's not addressing the issues of radical Islam.

It is not addressing the hate speech that we heard from the IMMAs after October seventh.

In fact, in five hundred pages of legislation, it does not mention radical Islam.

And as Susan Lay said today, if you can't mention it, you can't fix it.

So Susan was absolutely on fire with her commentary today and I think we've got a couple of grabs here what she said.

Speaker 6

The legislation does not address the real issues that gave rise to the Bondai attack.

It doesn't address Islamic extremism, it doesn't address isis influence, and it doesn't address the rise of anti Semitism and the associated terrorist threat in austrain The Attorney General's Department couldn't tell us if phrases like globalize, the Interfada or from the river to the sea would be captured by this law.

Officials couldn't even answer whether a fatwah preached by an Islamic extremist was classified as a religious text.

Speaker 5

And this just shows the problem with this proposed legislation.

Speaker 4

It is absolutely refusing to address what every Australian knows is the core issue, what led to the rise of anti Semitism, and how these things need to be to address.

Now we've discussed last night, and perhaps I was a little bit cynical, and I maintained that cynicism, I must say, in alban easy bundling together the hate speech legislation with the gun reforms as a bid to divide the coalition, knowing that the National Party would object to the gun law reforms.

Gun law reforms, by the way that most state governments are saying they will not be implementing again.

This will be failed legislation.

Now, some people that have been trying to back in alban Easy, desperately trying to cling to stuff, have said, oh, look, Susan Lee want a Parliament record and now she's not going to support the legislation they've put forward.

Legislation generally takes a few months to put together, to make sure unintended consequences are ironed out, that stakeholders get to have a say.

That was why she wanted Parliament to come back to start the legislative process, rather than have an inquiry run over three or four days that then has to report back with legislation then coming through straight away on the Monday.

It is better to not put legislation in that is going to cause more problems than it solves.

Speaker 5

And we know that this legislation is not going to solve the problem that we know.

Speaker 3

You're there, I know, and it's to try and ram it through.

You already have hate speech laws that have not really been you.

Speaker 5

Well, they haven't been tested.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and to try to ram this through so quickly does a disservice to victims of anti Semitism.

I think it does a disservice to the public because when you're talking about, as they are suggesting in this draft build that has been sent out, that it would be illegal to promote or incite hatred, racial nationality, color grounds, whatever, and to what is promote And the reason for that is that someone feels intimidated by it.

Well, you know, is that physically intimidated or they just feel like, well, perhaps people don't like me.

You don't actually have to prove that you have caused any of that harm.

It's just that there is a likelihood that you could promote or incite that.

So, as far as I can tell, that would mean I'm going to use a few racial stereotypes here to make the point right.

If someone said I think all Indians should be deported from the country, that now or would become a crime, as far as I can tell, five years in prison.

But at the moment, if someone said I think all Indians should be deported, it's a mate, You're a dicket, and that's how it should be.

But the law would now say you can be put away in the slammer for five years.

If someone said, again, I'm doing this to illustrate the point.

If I came out on television and said Asians can't drive, that would be, which is a common racial stereotype.

Five years in prison you could get for that.

Now, that is the sort of thing that at the moment might get me in a lot of trouble.

I might lose my job over it.

Fair enough, But should you get five years in prison for saying those things?

Speaker 2

Look, I think this just underscores how difficult it is to police or regulate speech, and this is why there's not really been any successful attempt to reform it since you know, AIGHTE and C was first form decades ago.

So I mean, just to clarify, five years is the maximum.

That would be the most extreme thing where you are obviously saying that these people should be killed.

If say a crazy radical pro Palestinian activist said the only good, the only good Israeli is dead, is right, correct, that would obviously be at the higher end.

But again, this is this is the problem, And I think what Anthony Alberanezi is doing is saying, if you like, you tell me you told me this is all my fault because I didn't fix it.

He told me.

This is you know, I've got blood on my hands because I allowed anti Semitism to fester in Australia.

Will here are all these measures to stop antisemitism and to stop people from being able.

Speaker 5

To depressing anti semity.

Speaker 2

To act on it.

And now you're saying, oh, it's too hard, it's too short.

Speaker 4

He does radically lamp.

He doesn't mention radical Islam.

He's now making carve outs with regards to text and never references the Quran, but talks about the Old Testament.

This is a guy who's still chasing votes just Southwest Sydney, who cannot get out of his own way.

Speaker 2

But there are other like there are Anglicans who raised concerns about their not being the.

Speaker 5

Anglic Cans are really at risk of getting on the bridge.

Okay, so do you became the Cans a lot more likely to bring out the tea and scones.

Speaker 4

I don't think we're in any about the Anglicans.

Speaker 2

So you're talking about you want laws that only target Muslims.

Speaker 4

No, I'm saying that we know that the cause of what occurred at Bondi was radical Islam.

Five hundred pages of legislation supposed to address this very issue don't even mention radical Islam when you are creating the carveouts of religious text and with the deliberate strategy there that the Quran can be absolutely said and there's nothing understand those people who stood and celebrated October seventh quoting the Quran, what is.

Speaker 2

Your solution, Well, that carve out for all religious texts except the Kur.

Speaker 4

But we don't need this at all, We don't need it religious hate.

If they're an Australian citizen and they call for the destruction of a race or they celebration, Christians have come out, not an Australian citizen, deport them, end of story.

Speaker 2

You understand that other religious leaders, like Christian leaders, other leaders have come out and said, no, we need these carve out sure, okay for our religious So the question is do you have a.

Speaker 4

Car you know what if you're If you're I will say, if you've stood up and celebrated October seventh and call for the destruction of Israel and Jews and absolutely applauded the rape and murder of women and children, if you're an Australian citizen, you should have been arrested.

If you're not an Australian citizen.

You should have been deported.

But how we solve hate, don't don't all hug each other, Just get.

Speaker 5

Rid of them.

Speaker 3

As long as you as long but as long as as long as you say that you're doing it because the Koran or any other Texas you can do it, then it's okay.

It doesn't actually.

Speaker 5

Calling if that while they can't even say whether that's.

Speaker 3

And also to be fair, when even when even the UN so the UN Special Report tore on Human Rights, is saying that this legislation goes too far into of curbing free speech.

Speaker 4

Like miss Albert, something's actually speaking against there's something going on that's right.

Speaker 2

But at the same time, we've just spent.

Speaker 5

But should buddling him up?

Speaker 4

Just help me with my cynicism here?

Why is he bundling up the gun legislation with the speech legend.

Speaker 5

I think because he's the omnibus.

It doesn't need to be an omnibus.

Speaker 2

No, But I think he's I think again, I think it's a bit of an few.

Speaker 5

It's like, well, that's a really good thing for.

Speaker 2

A but that's exactly that is exactly very much, that is exactly what he has.

Speaker 5

He's a week later, and he's demonstrating.

Speaker 2

Exactly what the right side of politics have said about you haven't done enough, but you haven't done anything, proving I haven't done anything.

Here's everything.

Suddenly, you guys are all fighting amongst yourself.

Speaker 3

We deserve, we deserve speak anyway matters speaking.

Speaker 2

Of people who are absolutely weak as pissed.

The Adelaide Writers Festival has just reconsidered its decision to disin Randa Abdolphatar Adelaide Writers Week.

This is the biggest dumpster fire I think I have ever seen in my many long years of watching dumpster fires.

These guys, Honestly, it's like that old joke.

These are my principles and if you don't like them, I have others.

So just to rewind in case of living under a rock, the board of the Adelaide Writers Week rescinded an invitation to Randa Abdolphatar, who is a anti Israel activist academic who has said some incredibly inflammatory things, including calling for an end to the state of Israel, participating in the doxing of Jewish creatives, and also calling for and just doesn't get any richer than this, another Jewish guy to be disinvited from the Adelaide Writers Festival.

Now once BONDI have hapened, and the I's fair to say, I think the board of Adelaide Writers we chat their collective DAX.

They said, oh my god, oh we can't have her.

It's going to be too bad.

It's going to you know, there'll be a backlash and look bad in us.

So they disinvite her and say no, we would rather didn't come anymore.

It could be too you know, insensitive, culturally insensitive, all this stupid stuff that the left makes up.

Obviously they hadn't met her because they seem to have assumed she would go quietly neither to say she did not.

And then of course all her ohso lefty mats who are also going to the Writer's Festival, the lovies all said oh, we're going to boycott it because you know, oh not because technically they support all the terrible things that Rander has said.

No, because they support free speech.

Do you remember that?

Do you remember all these people supporting free speech?

When Bill Leak was hounded death for a cartoon that some people didn't like, they were all there the same line.

It's basically the same list of name all stood up.

Oh no, but that only sound up for the free speech that they happened to agree with, because, of course, as Voltaire said, that is the exact point defintion of the very definsive the free speech.

I will you know, I may not agree with what you say, in which case I will do absolutely nothing.

If I do agree with what you say, I'll fight.

Speaker 5

Pretty much.

Speaker 2

These are towering intellectuals.

I'm sure they all speak French, but if not, it may have somehow got lost in translation.

But this was very This was how concerned the board was for the cultural safety of the love is at them.

Speaker 5

Well, they're so concerned.

Speaker 4

The Iranian writer who decided not to boycott it has received death threats because the consistency of these people's values is breathtat the.

Speaker 2

One person left saying that's right, and so the So basically, once, of course some people decide to boycott everything, Oh yes, I'm boycoking too, I'm also fighting for a free speech.

And of course anyone left behind gets sort of bread and a collaborator.

So basically, now there is a massive exodus, and then following when there's basically no one left to turn out the lights, Louise Adler, the head of the festival, whose fault this was all along, because she was the one who had Randa on the ticket in the first place, when she should never have been in a climate of a huge amount of anti Semitism.

But of course Louise Adler was previously gone on the record saying that the whole anti Semitism thing was a beat up by news Corps and the ABC, those old long term conspirators.

Anyway, so she then says, well, now I'm going to resign.

Now there's no riders Week at all, which of course means that all the poor actual workers who the.

Speaker 7

Left are meant to be worried about don't get paid because they don't get any work.

So all the soundos and the lighting guys, and the hospitality workers and the hotel workers, they don't get any money.

Speaker 2

But now it's all okay because it turns out that the board of the Adelaide Riders Week doesn't stand for anything on let him meet it everything else, there was no problem on them.

Apologize now to doctor abdolphta can I read the apology because I'm not excited enough, I'm not passionate enough about the incredical commitment that the Adelaide Writers' Festival has to free speech.

It says, quote, we apologize to doctor Abdolphaeta unreservedly.

God, these guys know how to just get on their knees and kiss the ring, don't they unreservedly for the harm the Adelaide Festival Corporation has caused her.

Intellectual and artistic freedom is a powerful human right.

They just discovered this.

Apparently they just discovered this in the last week after their after their after their event was about to go tits up because all these left.

Speaker 3

His boycotted this freedom because they've a pointed a new board now because.

Speaker 2

The rest of the board walked out there.

That's right.

Speaker 3

So the new board members were asked today by the advertiser, you know what they thought ofthing that's gone on, and they all said, we're not allowed to talk.

You've got to go and talk to our publicist person.

Speaker 2

So it's not accelerated.

Speaker 3

A few board members to discuss what is happening.

What was the point?

Speaker 5

There was no point.

Speaker 3

They're not going to have the festival this year.

I don't think it back for me.

Speaker 5

I don't think they'll have it next.

Speaker 3

What's the point of all of this carry on if you're just going to have her back.

Speaker 4

I got to say, Mali not a big fan of generally labor premiers, but he tends to be doing a pretty good job.

Peter mullanowskis and he's done really well.

I think when it's come to handling this issue, and if I was maling, I'd be pulling all government funding from the Adelaide Writers Festival.

And I don't think it'll be going ahead anymore anyway.

I think it's an absolute mo point.

Speaker 3

Next year, no one will notice if it's not really the.

Speaker 4

One hundred and eighty writers, they won't have anything to well, they said.

Speaker 3

You know who, who would have thought that an event that he's made for doctors' wives who fancied themselves as begion talk.

Speaker 5

About the deals now you know, well, I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 3

It's just it's a neck coach.

It's no one's going to miss it if it's not the one is.

Speaker 2

I was talking on five Double A, which is like by far the biggest radio stage, like the only really mainstream radio i AM radio station in Adelaide.

None of theirs have even darkened the door of the all and this is the thing.

What they actually found out, the lesson of it, is that these numpties, these absolute breaking intelligence, they are the intelligentsia, and I use that word in a column just today, but who think they're so smart, so intellectual, so sophisticated, and now think that there's some kind of forum for free speech and freemam distress.

What they didn't seem to actually even know about themselves this how smart they are, was that the selections that they'd made for this year, as I'm sure with every other year, have been so many drones sharing the same high line on Israel and Palestine, that as soon as they tried to get rid of the most sort of extreme one, the whole apparatus just collapsed all around them.

But what they didn't understand was they were actually just presiding over a giant circle jerk of people so stupid they couldn't even conceive of an original position on an issue that is bedeviling the world.

And so of course the slightest pin prick, the whole thing explodes.

Speaker 3

They've reput they've sown, and I'm not terribly sad about it.

And just just on this scene, very quickly, we've got a few things to power through before we get to the break.

And these people who were trying to stage another pro Palestine rally this weekend in Sydney or Friday, I think they want to do it at the town hall.

And laws were brought in after the Bondi attack to prevent protest going on since then, and it was originally fourteen days and it can be extended in fortnite periods by the police commissioner.

I mean, just stay at home, like, now is not the time.

I have no issue.

You can protest cowscume on whatever, but now is just not the time.

Guys.

Why do you have to push the law to have your protest about something on the other side of the world when you can make no difference and there's a peace deal anyway.

Speaker 4

Well, I mean that's the issue.

There is a ceasefire in place and a peace deal underway.

I would have less of a problem if they were out protesting and support of the Iranian people and trying to pull down the Iranian regime that is the eye of Toller and the murderous regime Iran.

But no, no, no, no, these left is don't care about Muslims in Iran, don't care about them.

Speaker 5

Their life not so much of a problem.

Speaker 4

Let's just still go on about Gaza and the Palestinians, even though.

Speaker 5

There's a ceasefire in place.

Speaker 2

It's right, a ceasefire.

Let us not forget that was good enough for her mass yes so and Marsas said, this deal is okay for us, but the stand for Palestine room linked to his Butteria, which is listed as a terror group in other jurisdictions, not here.

But they're saying, oh, no, no, no, it's not good.

It's good enough for herm those wet little centrists who flew over the border and killed a thousand Israelis and started this.

It's good enough for them, but it's not good enough for us.

We're hard, mate, We're hard.

Unbelievable.

Speaker 3

Can we talk about I just want to get this in because I talked about at the top of the show.

Josh Cavala is predictable, so I know.

So we talked about this on Monday.

He used to play for the Adelaide United Football Club soccer, of course, and he was the first openly gay male player in soccer that he was still playing when he came in.

There are other soccer players who've come out but that's after they gave up the game a big deal at the time in twenty twenty one.

He was supported by his club in doing so.

Speaker 2

Etc.

Speaker 3

He's now playing over in England in some small time league.

They've got eleven different leagues over there.

Speaker 2

He's playing in the.

Speaker 3

Heights of a Yeah, I know, I know, but he's the league.

He's playing in his seventh on the ladder of eleven of them.

Right, it's a semi professional league.

He's playing for a club that has a home ground with a capacity of two thousand people.

So he has actually moved down in the world.

And he said the reason he left was because of homophobia in Adelaide United and that's why he didn't get a game in the last season he played for them.

So he was forced to go overseas because his club was homophobic.

And we said, maybe it's because you're just not that good of a soccer player.

Well, the captain of Adelaide United has come out and confirmed as much.

Here he was this morning on five Double A.

Speaker 8

Whilst I was there and whilst I was with Josh, and we were nothing but supportive of him and all the endeavors.

There are a lot of other players within the squad that, in my opinion, worked a lot harder than he did.

And there were, in fact multiple occasions that Josh decided to take up outside opportunities, try to hide it from us and lie to us and miss training sessions and club commitments, and then we still accepted that that was what happened.

Speaker 3

Who would have thought that would be the case.

You know, it's I wasn't good enough, I wasn't playing by the rules, I wasn't playing fair with my team.

But it was homophobia.

Speaker 4

But you know, and look, I'm probably going to get in trouble God, I seem to be on a roll tonight.

But you know, he missed soccer training and miss being part of the club because he was taking up, according to this article, commercial opportunities.

Now, I'm pretty sure most Adelaide United soccer players, I probably didn't even get the name of the team right because I don't really know anything about them, didn't get that many commercial opportunities.

But I'm sure his id and his name and brand was heightened when he came out and was used by brands as a bit of a poster child for them, which is why he got the opportunity to do.

Speaker 2

Commercial value, might be working at Maccas.

Speaker 5

Could have been working backers.

Speaker 4

But you know, the fact that he's now trying to turn it on hober phobia is just pathetic and it's clearly something that you're right, he's just not that good.

Speaker 5

He wasn't that committed.

And then but.

Speaker 2

Also the thing is though that he's kind of been too clever by half because of course, having come out while still playing, the club would have known that if they let him go for anything that had a whiff of homophobia, that would be an instant lawsuit.

And if there was anything to do with homophobia about the decision, they would be liable.

It would be they would be They would be absolutely one hundred percent in the dock.

So I think, if anything, it probably helped him stay as long as I did.

Speaker 3

It's a good point.

You know what I thought, you wanted a quality, you got a quality, But you still want to be the victim.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

After the break, speaking of people who want to be victims, the teal candidates and their volunteers there complaining that the other volunteers on the pollen boots my lollies.

Can you believe it?

Ba more after this are the Teals, the poor poor Teal's Crimemea River, because they are saying their volunteers anyway, have made some submissions to a parliamentary inquiry about you know how we run polling booths and all these sorts of things, and they complaining that their experience of the federal election last year was traumatizing, awful, oh all these things.

This is in the odds today.

Irritated Teal campaigners have complained to Parliament that rival volunteers would not say hello to them or accept their lollies during last year's federal election and acted in other aggressive ways.

Some said were consistent.

We've broader threats to national security, highlighted by Australia's spy agency.

Sorry, okay, so somehow we've gone from they wouldn't say hello and they didn't want to eat my lollies to that is somehow connected to like terrorism or something.

Because Mike Burgess has talked about a breakdown in social cohesion and we've seen it on polling moods with the people the tail lollies de lies.

Someone else was complaining that that the other volunteers were shaking hands too vigorously and if I can demonstrate Joke did something.

Speaker 2

And they terrorism.

Speaker 3

I know, the army sore.

Speaker 2

After help white supremacy.

Speaker 3

What is wrong with these people?

Speaker 4

Well, there is so much wrong with these people.

And I'd like to thank my friend Michael who just sent me a text to remind me that it was actually one of Zari's Steggles volunteers who stabbed a Liberal volunteer.

I don't see the Liberals putting in complaints about the Teals volunteer volunteers who literally stabbed them.

Speaker 2

With what you stabbed them before or after they didn't accept her Lolly's Well, I think.

Speaker 5

It was a he who stabbed a he.

Speaker 4

And yeah, he well alleged, well he allegedly stabbed them, but it's been to court and he was found to have done it, so I'm not sure whether it's still alleged because it actually been the report system.

But but you know he this.

I've been on many, many, many polling booths over my life and over the last few election cycles since the Teals have been there.

Let me tell you I've never went Worth Bradfield.

A number of others Will Ringer Michella been out to booths all up and down those places.

And let me tell you not one stage, the most number of volunteers were always the Teals.

It's kind of almost like a cult.

They all sort of and they all look the same.

Apparently they all do book club together.

Speaker 3

When they all do, I thought you were saying, you know, something a bit more furious.

Speaker 5

Oh no, no, no, book club.

Book club is what I don't want to hear them, hear them.

Speaker 4

Anyone else.

They're usually very polite, they're quite aggressive themselves.

They're incredibly unpleasant people.

In my experience of every time I've ever gone near any one of them, no one's ever offered me a Lawley, let alone a hello.

So I don't know which boothe this was going on, But seriously, teals don't care cry go go away.

Speaker 2

I know, Caleb, you said crime in the River.

I've got some other suggestions, perhaps some music therapy for the teals who do feel upset by they are.

I think you can.

You can listen to the Rolling Stones as Teals go by.

You could listen to Smokey Robinson and the Commodos tracks of My Teals, And if you're up for something more contemporary, you could listen to a Great Collab as the kids say, between the weekend and ariana Grande, which is save your teals for another.

Speaker 5

I've kill drops on the dance floor.

Speaker 2

That you can introduce the next next topic.

I don't think this is one that Caleb.

Speaker 5

That No.

Speaker 4

Well, for those of us wondering out there whether men can get pregnant?

The US Senate has recently been looking into this.

Speaker 5

Issue and a doctor and.

Speaker 4

Specialist was unable to answer the question of over whether men can get pregnant.

Speaker 5

It's Verma, can men get pregnant?

Doctor Verba?

Speaker 2

I just want to make sure, doctor Bran, can.

Speaker 5

Men get pregnant?

Speaker 3

As a doctor?

Speaker 5

Give me your opinion as a doctor?

Can men get pregnant?

I mean, I'll move on to the next one is doctor, can men get pregnant?

Speaker 3

No?

Speaker 5

I know you're a lawyer, an ag like I was an ag?

Speaker 2

Can men get pregnant?

Speaker 3

No?

Speaker 4

Seriously, I cannot believe in twenty twenty six where it is a situation where someone who prides themselves and declares that they are a person of science, they are a medical doctor, yet they cannot answer the simple question can men get pregnant?

It is just getting beyond a joke.

I mean, when are these people going to accept that you require certain bits and pieces to be able to carry a baby, and men do not have those bits and pieces.

Speaker 3

When she took great offense as well to be called miss that is the bit that she really wanted to be called doctor.

Is she a teal?

Speaker 2

She is the ultimate teal.

She is a teal called Karen, a teal of teals.

Speaker 3

But she really wanted to That's why doctor.

Speaker 2

That is the thing, isn't it.

Oh No, I'm a doctor, a doctor, and then when and.

Speaker 3

Then when you're asked a medical questions you can.

Speaker 2

Is the most basic thing any doctor can say.

Suddenly, No, I'm not a doctor.

I'm a granite statue.

Speaker 5

So are you planning to have is Caleb?

Speaker 4

Because we haven't had it confirmed whether or not it's biological possible or not in the US.

Speaker 3

Senate, probably one day, but I don't think I'll be carrying nobly not.

Speaker 2

But I can't have babies.

Speaker 3

You said this, I'm.

Speaker 5

Forty nine, right, it's only an age.

Speaker 2

Perimenopausal exactly.

Speaker 3

You've been putting on a bit of wake and switching a bit too much over the joke.

Speaker 5

No metopause jokes.

Speaker 3

But honestly, if you have to think about the question of whether or not men can get pregnant.

Maybe you've you've gone to the wrong calling.

Speaker 4

In a way, I mean, look to be fair, and this is very unusual coming from me.

If she was to say, biological men can't get pregnant, but trans men can have children, sure, I think that would.

Speaker 5

Be a fair answer.

Why can't these people even just say that.

Speaker 2

I was going to defend her on exactly that basis, And why excuse me?

Speaker 3

It's doctor, Yeah they say that, and because because trans men and men and all this sort of.

Speaker 5

Gab, and trans women are women, Like at the end.

Speaker 2

Of your biological woman who identifies as a man, you can get pregnant, but you have to be a biological woman.

And that's not even all biological women.

Speaker 5

Sadly, why don't they just say that?

Speaker 4

Like why do they then have to say, well, I can't say that because and news.

Speaker 2

They are as smart as the board of the Cadelaide Festival.

Speaker 4

I now know that we've got our new benchmark of intelligence here.

Speaker 2

Now speaking of Karens, we have one fact.

We have what what would the collective now and be for a plethora of Karens.

Speaker 5

Knowing a few Karens I think a murder of Karens, a.

Speaker 2

Smug of Karens.

Anyway, they've got a whold of Amy Shark.

So Amy Shark has was on a plan.

Amy Shark famous singer.

We all know who Amy Shark is, right, Gold Coast singer everyone likes.

Speaker 5

Say night, I go to Baby Shark.

Speaker 2

Oh god, no, Baby Shark is the name of her son.

Anyway, Amy Sharks, she's very, very famous.

I think she's won a bunch of arias, She's had a bunch of as it hits.

She's got a great head of hair that she likes to sort of wearing a sort of loose knot that a lot of people find very earthy and relatable while at the same time very pretty.

There you go.

That was Amy Shark filming a picture of herself on a plane, basically like, oh man, don't you hate it when you're start next to a screaming baby on a plane.

We've all been there, right Toat's relatable.

Speaker 3

P O V.

Speaker 2

I got your girl.

Anyway.

It turns out that posting this is a hate crime because Shout the collection having.

Speaker 5

On titcuver and by elbows legislation.

Speaker 2

And has had to delete the clip and issue an apologies after a whole bunch of women accused her meant to accused her of mum shaming.

I just saying, oh, man, don't you hate this that she's now committed a hate crime.

Maybe she would get five years.

Speaker 4

If she could get I.

Speaker 3

Mean, but surely even people who are parents can acknowledge that it is annoying when a baby is crying on a plane.

It's a fact of life, but it's annoying.

What's wrong with pointing that.

Speaker 2

Out to the parents, because you can't just leave him behind.

Speaker 4

And look, I've got three kids and we used to fly quite a bit, and honestly, I get on now.

Speaker 5

I feel bad that I kind of go, oh, that baby.

Speaker 4

Had shut up, but said, on the other hand, you know, if you can help the mum, judgmental looks don't help.

Speaker 5

You know, when my son and I used to have to come.

Speaker 4

To Sydney for therapy when he was you know, two and three with autism, and because as we talked about the other night, it's an invisible disability, and Fred would sometimes be difficult to handle on the plane and I would get looks in fitting from flight attendants and my ex husband used to call them my capal moments because I just used to look at them and go, he's got autism.

But your judgmental look just made my flight so much easier.

Thank you so much for your assistance.

Speaker 5

But you know, I think if you, if you can.

Speaker 4

Try and help a mum who's particularly mom's traveling on her own with a couple, but seriously, get over it like it is annoying.

No one pays for a flight to get on and wants to hear a baby cry the whole time, you know, And that's just seriously, get.

Speaker 3

A live paper and she's deleted the video.

Speaker 2

She wasn't she wasn't death staring, the mask, wasn't like that and didn't point out that.

Would you like to know what Amy Shark said in her apologies?

You ready to go on?

So sorry, guys, I'm going to f up like this my whole life.

Just so you know, I'm really sorry to all the mums.

I effing love mums.

I love babies.

When you don't have kids, you see a crying baby behind you as a funny situation, how damn.

But I know now it's not a funny situation at all, that's right, Shark.

Nothing is funny anymore.

Speaker 5

You know what you do funny?

No, I'm sorry, anyone.

Here's a tip.

Speaker 4

Offer to hold the baby and offer the mamma glass and then take a video.

Speaker 3

Good luck with that one.

Now you might end up with a restraining order.

Hey, in Brisbane, of course they're gonna have the Olympics in twenty thirty two, and it's well, we shall see.

And they've been bragging about the fact this is the will be the first Olympics with a reconciliation action plan.

Speaker 5

Right, this is a a recycling plan.

Speaker 3

I've probably got one of them too, but it's going to be the first Olympics with a reconciliation action plan.

They really care about Indigenous people.

If you go on the Brisbane Olympics website, you scroll down a little bit and you end up looking at this got huge thing on there about oh you got the country, and we care about Indigenous people and they're so important to the Olympics and all this sort of stuff, except for the fact that they want to build a brand new Olympic stadium in Victoria Park on Parklands in Brisbane, and the local Indigenous people say that is a sacred site and you should not be building your stadiums on it, so we care about indigenous people up to a point.

So they had launched last year, one of these Aboriginal land corporations launched action against it to try and stop the stadium from going ahead.

But to murray, what who is the federal Environment Minister has now intervened and said that it can go ahead.

Isn't it funny because of because we had a mind that was knocked back gold mine blaming, because you know, someone someone put.

Speaker 5

In this.

Speaker 4

My mistake that I got the ethical creature one who exists no exactly, so.

Speaker 3

We can pick and choose which indigenous we think are really important.

Speaker 4

Government doesn't care about indigenous cultural heritage when it comes to where they're putting wind farms, solar farms or pumped hydro that indigenous concerns are way down the list there when it comes to renewable energy projects.

So why wouldn't the Olympics may the same?

Speaker 2

Well, I guess I think it is actually the same, And this is the thing, so I think this is actually a rerun of the Mcphillermy's gold Mine and the Blue Banded Bee fiasco where you actually had the local indigenous land Council, the actual people who are in charge, the actual custodians who are the responsible group.

So what are you talking about.

We want the mind to go ahead.

This is great for us.

It's going to provide jobs, economic opportunity for us.

This is fantastic.

And it was some rogue group self appointed that no one really had heard of.

Speaker 5

Before listen to.

Speaker 2

I know, I'm sorry, Yeah it was an error.

But anyway, Murray what is now the new environment.

Speaker 4

That's Murray should now get to mcshillamy's goldline back on the time.

Speaker 2

Coincidentally, I think they're trying to do that, and this is exactly what happened here.

So this attempt to stop the work on the stadium was from an unnamed indigenous group, so I wasn't even from the actual official local indigenous representative.

So again there's trouble makers.

You know, it's just.

Speaker 5

Might be hate speech coming back.

Speaker 3

I actually hope that they would be successful, just because I don't think they should be building it on parklands because once you lose parklands, you don't get parkland back.

I have an opposition to it from that perspective, but I just think if you're going to.

Speaker 5

Add a little blue banded, well gold, just draw one on a rock.

Speaker 3

The thing to me is, if you're going to talk the talk about how much you care about Indigenous culture and Indigenous people and we've got the Reconciliation Action Plan and whatever, if Indigenous people come to you and say you shouldn't build it there, if you really believe in the cause, shouldn't you be listening to them.

It just seems that sometimes we listen to the things we want to hear and we disregard the ones that are not so convenient.

Speaker 4

You know what, this government doesn't have consistency of us who would have thought?

Speaker 2

Who would by princals?

And if you don't like them, I have others.

They've done the exact right thing.

This is the whole point.

There was a slight error with the whole you know, one billion dollar.

Speaker 4

Goals down their big commitment to Indigenous issues website.

Speaker 2

They are they are actually listening to the appropriate Indigenous people and lots of organizations have a reconciliation plan.

This one does.

News Corp.

Has a reconciliation Action plan.

It's totally normal and it's a good thing.

What's bad is when you have kind of rogue activists who don't have any authority, who don't have the experience, and who don't have the backing of their community, who aren't representing their community, just deciding that they're going to go out on the war path.

And that's what happened with the blue banded b that just made a community about a billion dollars poorer.

And with you know what they were trying to do with this with this big Olympic stadium in Brisbane, which they need because the Gabba is too big.

The gabbas like kind of in fit in its own suburbs.

Speaker 3

Very quickly before we get to a break and Oka Junior, the health are in the United States was us who in the administration has the worst diet?

Who do you reckon?

It was?

Speaker 1

He eats really bad food, which is McDonald's.

And then you know Kathy and dit coke, but drinks the die coke all times.

Here's a constitution of a deity.

I don't know how he's alive.

Speaker 3

Donald Trump, he is talking about there, of course.

And you would have also seen that they've been talking about milk over in the United States, promoting that you should drink more milk.

And Donald Trump, while talking about this had to clarify the spelling of whole milk.

Speaker 5

It's actually a little definition whole milk and it's all with a W for those of you that have a problem.

Speaker 2

Most of the.

Speaker 3

I don't know what whole h o el e milk is and I'm not sure I want.

Speaker 4

I think that's an indictment on the American education system that he had to wave.

Speaker 3

What is going on there?

Speaker 2

Milk with an M.

Speaker 3

After the break, an Australian champions who won the Dakar Rally before.

He's still going through.

He's probably not going to win this time.

He's continuing despite the fact he's broken bones during the race.

What an aussy hero.

More after the track Now the Dakar Rally, the motorcycle race.

We have an Australian bloke who's won it before, Daniel Saunders.

He was trying.

He's in the rest at the moment.

He was hoping to win it again.

He can't do it because he had a bad crash and he broke his collar bone.

But can you believe it?

He is continuing on anyway?

Here he is.

Speaker 9

It's like, for sure snap collar bone at the refill we checked it.

But yeah, one hundred and forty K's.

He went over to June and was pretty scary and it.

Speaker 2

Was very tough.

Speaker 9

Yeah, we don't quit.

So Mum and dad didn't raise no quitter, so I'm not pulling out now.

Speaker 3

What a great attitude.

Mom and dad didn't raise no quit.

Speaker 5

Let me tell you he's not a general.

You know, he's not a millennial.

He's not one of those new generation of kids.

He's someone who gets in there and gets it done.

Speaker 4

I bet you know Mom doesn't have to ask him to empty the dishwasher twice.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I got to say, I know how he feels.

I know that kind of grit and courage.

A fellow Victorian, I actually broke two or three of my ribs but still managed to get on a complimentary business class flight to You're right, yeah, well here, we don't all work cakes.

Yeah, you know, like you know, I like like Daniel, I knew that this was, you know, something I had to do for Queen.

Speaker 3

Put in the nation, But like, get that man a beer.

That's how you can make it a bit more.

Speaker 4

Isn't that the only way he's going to keep going.

That's a bit of lubrication and some medication.

Speaker 3

If he had a dart in his mouth and a beer in his hand.

Speaker 2

He'd be a bit of lubrication.

That's a good night out, speaking my language.

Speaker 3

But you know that would be the picture of a of a proper orsod bloke.

That that sort of ossie attitude.

We don't see it as much anymore, but we need to bring it back.

Speaker 2

Are you familiar with Lou Reed's song Satellite of Love?

I am perhaps the follow up Carousel of Shame?

No, because that is what this airline passenger experience.

How's that for just a well done non sequit or an absolutely meaningless segue.

Anyway, So this is a post that is going viral on TikTok.

So you know the Chinese Communist Party is watching, and this is a bloke.

We all know what it's like when you're standing there waiting for your luggage to come out on the baggage carousel and you start to twig that maybe something might be wrong.

Have a look.

So the good news is that the carousel did in fact deliver all of his baggage.

The bad news is delivered it one item at a time.

Speaker 5

You know, it's still better than most quantus flats nowadays.

Like you actually turned up in the place.

Speaker 3

Yes he did actually get.

Speaker 2

Just imagine that right there were You're thinking, now, what.

Speaker 5

Else did I pack?

Speaker 2

Did I put the lubricant in?

Speaker 3

Dear, dear, dear, And you can go and work that out for yourself, I suppose.

Thank you so much for joining us the night Up next the dismissal fifty years on Chris Hullman's documentary good Night

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