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Speaker 1

General, Welcome to the Late Debate.

Clat Debate Team.

Welcome to the show.

I'm Caleb Bond with Frey Leech and Jamie Rodgers.

Is what's coming up tonight?

A bottle shop has been knocked back in a popular Victorian town because, wait for it, kids might see it on the way to school.

Speaker 2

What's next?

Speaker 1

You might see Paul Murray smoking a cigar on the way to school.

What are they going to do about that?

Speaker 3

Now?

Speaker 1

These in the papers in Australian university where the majority of students are foreign.

We'll tell you where and how many are hot on the heels.

Exclusive details in tomorrow's OZ and later.

A man who says he's the love child of King Charles and Queen Camilla has had his court case against the State of Queensland for denying his human rights when the police refuse to investigate Facebook posts about his family history dismissed.

And yes, I promise you this is a real case and we'll tell you more about it later.

First, though, tonight, you may have seen news that we broke earlier this evening in Shari, which of course this week is being hosted by Dnika de Georgio that on October twelfth, which will be just after a few days after the second anniversary of October the seventh, we will have protesters, pro Palatinian protesters descending on the steps of the Sydney Opera House to once again demonstrate.

Now, of course, we remember the ugly scenes in the days after the aftermath of October seven, nearly two years ago, where we had people protesting at the Opera House, and we remember the chants from there that originally were you know, if the Jews, etc.

That was later decided it was something else anyway, and they're going to come back and try it on again on October the twelfth.

They've put out a statement.

This evening, by the way, today is Yon Kapur, which is the holiest day on the Jewish calendar, So read into that what you will, whether or not this is a coincidence or not.

But they said they're going to rock up on October the twelfth, and in their statement they say that the seventh of October twenty twenty five will mark two years since Israel launched its genocidal campaign against.

Speaker 2

The Palestinian people.

Speaker 1

There is no mention, by the way, in this statement at all about Hamas in any way shape or form, and that October seven was when Hamas went in and slaughtered the most Jews who'd ever been killed in a single day since the Holocaust.

It also goes on to on more than one occasion.

And I thought it must have been a mistake at first, because the second paragraph refers to six hundred and eighty thousand Palestinians have been killed in the war, and I thought that they've added an extra zero onto that rather surely this is wrong.

But then later in the peace the bloke who sent out this statement, Amaal Nassa, who's from the Palestine Action Group, again uses that number in quotes that are directly attributable to him, and he says, over sixty eight thousand Palestinians have been killed in two years sixty eight.

I've not seen six hundred and eighty thousand, I should say, not six.

I've not seen that number anywhere.

So they're fabricating numbers.

They refuse to say anything about a mass having anything to do with as October seven, where a genocide against Palestinians started.

And also I want to know why are they doing it on October the twelfth?

It's and I get that they normally demonstrate on a Sunday as they have over the last two years, right and October the twelfth is the Sunday.

But you'd think if you were that dedicated to the cause that you could get a bunch of people to come out and gather on a Tuesday or a Wednesday night on the seventh or the eighth of October, couldn't you.

No, No, we must wait until Sunday because that's what our people are used to.

Speaker 2

And the whole thing's just.

Speaker 4

It's absolutely disgusting and I think Australians are sick and tired of seeing a national icons be hijacked by foreign wars.

The Harbor Bridge, the Opera House, the Opera House again.

Now under new South Wales law, apparently it's illegal to actually protest on the Opera House.

So if Chris Means and the police actually going to stand by the laws that they've applied to Jewish groups by the way, when they've tried to protest or hold events of the Opera House, well then they need to stop this.

But this is the mob mentality that's going to take over.

They want to get thousands and thousands of people down there to try and overwhelm police.

And ram their way onto the Opera House.

This is un Australian.

It's disgusting.

And the figures they're pulling out of their butt six hundred and eighty thousand, where.

Speaker 3

Is that from?

Provide a source provide even her.

Speaker 4

Mask sources aren't saying that this is ridiculous and embarrassing.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it's really disappointing and I think this is just an absolute disgrace that they have put this out.

You just read the Caleb the first paragraph here, and it almost makes it sound as if Israel just for no reason, just decided to go into Gaza.

Speaker 3

It's nothing to do.

Speaker 5

About seeking justice for those that were thoughted, and where are any mention about the hostages that are still being held in Gaza.

It is just the most disgraceful.

This is what we're used to now though.

This is the real sad reality of this group, that they are out there most weekends protesting.

They have taken up our streets.

They know this is now the third time that they're going to be using one of our iconic landmarks, the second time with the Opera House, and I just think this is now enough.

We're in the process of organizing a ceasefire.

They're now saying they're calling for immediate sanctions on Israel.

They want to have an end to the arms trade.

Before it was all about calling for peace in Gaza, and then now that there is talks of a peace negotiation, all, no, we're not going to talk about that.

Now it's about sanctioning Israel and removing the arms.

It's like, what do you guys want?

This is very clearly, in my opinion, very anti Israel.

Speaker 1

Well, you know, they've achieved a great deal in all the protests they've had every Sunday since oct Over seven, haven't they?

Speaker 2

So why would this be any different?

Honestly?

Can we just get the water cannons out?

Speaker 1

Like I'm just sick of it at this point, Just bagger off.

If the biggest thing you've got to worry about is a war on the other side of the world that most likely you have no connection to whatsoever, then don't get a job.

Quite frankly, let's move on to Victoria now, where well.

Speaker 3

Want somebody please think of the children.

Speaker 1

Well, somebody is apparently thinking of the children down in Victoria, because God forbid, they might have to look at a bottle shop.

Yes, Dan Murphy's.

You might We talked about this story last year.

I think it was Dan Murphy's was trying to set up a store in Dalesford and Dalsford you might, well, those are very popular part of Victoria.

Speaker 2

It's a big tourist town.

It's a big retirement town.

Speaker 1

A lot of people have moved out there because it's not that far from Melbourne and it's lovely.

It's near Hipburn Springs.

Really is a great place if you've ever been there.

So Dan Murphy thought, right, this town's expanding, lots of people moving in, good client tell so it makes sense for it to be a place to set up at Dan Murphy's store.

And the local council and the local residents all said, no way, we don't want Dan Murphy's here.

That big ugly face in his green shop can not be at our town, thank you very much, and they were successful.

So Dan Murphy's appealed it to VCAT, which is the Civil and Administrative Tribunal in Victoria, and VECATS come back and said no, Actually the council made the right decision because kids might see it on the way to school.

It is just an extraordinary thing, they say, it is a risk of harm to minors.

Speaker 2

This is to quote Vcat.

Speaker 1

The premises is located in an educational and family friendly area with children of all ages present throughout the year.

The location of the premises means that children going to and from school, in care, at school, or at leisure will be exposed to this packaged liquor premises.

Speaker 2

I can't believe it.

The poor kids, I mean, what are they going to do?

Speaker 1

Like every road that has a school on it now.

Speaker 2

No liquor shop at all.

Speaker 1

We've got to rip out all the Dan Murphy's and all the other bottle shops and whatever, less the poor kids.

Speaker 2

So you sign out the front of a shop.

Speaker 5

Well, you're right, Where does this now end?

And Victoria is not the only state that's got this sort of thing happening.

We had a similar story that we spoke about on the Sunday showdown at Avalon where the locals were petitioning to not have a childcare center built on top of a Dan Murphy's because.

Speaker 3

Of that exact reason.

Speaker 5

You don't want to have children that are walking past an alcohol shop to go up to their childcare center, even though there was a lift that would go directly to a car park and it could avoid it.

I think it is absolutely ridiculous.

As a mum, I've got two kids who also our childcare center was literally you had to walk past a bottle shop to get inside, and the kids have absolutely no idea unless you make a big deal about it.

Speaker 3

They've got no idea you need to check out of their beds.

Speaker 2

They're probably hiding the.

Speaker 5

Bottle past and they're happily on their day.

They are not aware unless you, as a parent, are specifically stating there saying, ook, that's a bottle shop, you better not look inside, and then of course that's going to make them want to look inside.

Speaker 3

Yeah, ridiculous.

I sort of think, look if they're a Nimby's.

Speaker 4

Now, this was all launched by an ex local government counselor, so it kind of tells you everything you need to know about the profile.

A person who's particularly concerned about this, Dan Murphy is if they are so passionate about stopping this, they underwent a three year legal battle to halt this process.

It's the first time in ten years that they've actually reviewed a decision to not grant to lick a license, So this is pretty unprecedented stuff.

If they really hate the Dan Murphys that much, Well, let them have more expensive alcohol and a boring spa town.

I mean, that's their fault.

If they want to have no fun in their town, then good luck to them.

I mean, I just that's their right.

Speaker 1

Really yeah, but that's the you know, a couple of hundred odd people who come out and say they don't want it.

What about all the other people of Well then they need to speak hard.

Who want to want to have you know, grow at a decent price, and.

Speaker 5

To say what the block's supposed to be filmed there?

Speaker 2

Well it is.

Speaker 1

It's going on at the moment.

So how It's just what do they think that if a kid sees a bottle shop, the kid's going to turn into an alcoholic?

Like okay, I guess now we must ban anyone from having a drink on television.

It's a bit like you know in films.

Now you can't smoke anymore.

We've just sanitized life beyond all belief.

I'm sorry, it's not going to be the thing if you're worried about with your kid is going to drink too much when they're a teenager.

There are a hundred other things that will contribute to that before whether they saw a bottle shop on the way to school.

Speaker 4

Well, one of the things that you should be worried about your teenager doing.

If it's not drinking as well, it's cannabis.

New research by Australians health regulators estimate there are around one million Australians using medicinal cannabis.

This is a fifty times increase.

It was eighteen thousand people using it back in twenty nineteen and that has jumped to one million in twenty twenty five now, it says a study conducted by the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency found that eight medical practitioners issued more than ten thousand scripts each for the highest strength THHC products over just a six month period.

One doctor issued more than seventeen thousand scripts in that same timeframe, equating.

Speaker 3

To a script every four minutes.

Speaker 4

Every four minutes a doctor is issuing high strength cannabis scripts.

I mean this is of epidemic proportions.

Now everyone thinks a lot of people think, oh, cannabis, it doesn't do much harm.

Speaker 3

There are risks.

Speaker 4

Associated with it when you have a million Australians on it without many guard rails in place.

It's deeply concerning and part of this has been driven by the rise in online prescriptions.

So people have worked out if you just go online, say the right things to a digital health appointment, you can get highest strength marijuana much better than buying it off the black market.

But pretty disturbing for our country.

Speaker 5

It's disturbing how many are being the prescriptions.

There's eight medical practitioners that issued themselves ten thousand scripts within six months.

That needs to be investigated and says yeah, the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency had did put in guidelines earlier this year to try and crack down on this.

Clearly it's not working, but things like Teleyhealth is certainly making it easier to be able to access this medicinal cannabis.

But my question is is why this sudden rise.

You know, from twenty nineteen to now you go from eighteen thousand to a million.

That seems so excessive in such a short period of time.

Speaker 1

Because that was sort of when it first came into being.

I think it's the early stages of being able to legally get your hands on the gear, right, So, I mean my theory is that it's just people who were dope smokers who have now gone well, I can get the dope without the risk of the coppers arresting me because I've got the script and the doctor sees that I can have it.

So it's all hunky dory now.

And I was fully on board when the discussion started and the idea was that we should legalize medicinal cannabis.

Speaker 2

So yeah, go for it.

Speaker 1

I mean, there are very clear benefits to a lot of people who use medicinal cannabis, so I have no issue with that.

But the problem to me seems to be that here we have a system that was set up to do good is now being thoroughly abused, and it's being used by people who just want to get their hands on dope for recreational purposes.

And you've got doctors who are just willing to take the money to hand out the script.

So you tune through them, you know, one every of all minutes or whatever you want it to be, and just go, you get one.

Speaker 2

You get one.

Speaker 1

It's like an Oprah episode and they go down to the doctor, to the pharmacy, sorry, get there dope and go on their merry way.

That's not what the system was meant to be, so you can have all these guardrails you like, it should be that you have to have three appointments in person with a doctor or something like that before you can get your hands on this stuff.

Otherwise you're basically just making a legal form of drug dispensing.

I mean, why not do it for cocaine next?

Speaker 3

Correct?

Speaker 4

And apparently there are some medical practices that send you an automated SMS going, hey, it's like to get another cannabis prescription.

So they are prompting the user to get more and more of this stuff because of course it's also in their financial interest to keep handing out these prescriptions.

Speaker 3

So the whole system is screwed.

Speaker 6

You know.

Speaker 1

Snoop Dogg was here doing the the IFL Grand Final the other day.

I wonder whether he got a prescription while he was he because he's well known for his dope smoking, so I wonder whether he got a prescription while he was Erior got his ends on the allegle stuff.

Speaker 5

Now here's an interesting story.

Scientists have discovered a way to have a baby without a biological mother.

Yes, that is correct.

So using human skin cells are then injected into a donor egg before it is then fertilized by another man.

So this theory then allows two men to have a baby without any DNA from a woman.

Now, the research does say that it needs to have investigated a little bit more before they go and do clinical trials.

But I just wonder, guys, first of all, why are scientists even looking into this as an option?

But it just feels a little bit strange.

I don't know how ethical something like this is, but it just feels a little bit strange that it's the DNA of two men to have a baby without a female.

Speaker 1

Look, it could be because I suppose the legitimate medical argument for it is that if you have a woman who is infertile, you could take her egg and then take a bit of her skin and modify the egg with the DNA to potentially make it a viable eggs that she could carry.

Right, So you start out with that, and mean you potentially look at the idea of well do we then say that if someone wants to donate an egg, and then you can implant a bloke stein a replace the DNA in that egg with a blokes DNA from his skin, and then take another bloke sperm and fertilize it.

Speaker 2

Well, all of a.

Speaker 1

Sudden, you've got gay couples having kids, and you know, all sorts of strange stuff.

I get why they're doing it, a bit like I get why they do brain chips, But if you follow it to its conclusion, you end up in a dark place.

Speaker 3

A very very dark place.

Speaker 4

And the reality is, even if you can have an embryo that is the DNA of two men, you still need a woman to carry that baby.

So you still even need a commercial sarrogate, which opens you up to a lot of human trafficking concerns and ethical issues, or you need a female who is willing to do it for you, benevolently or voluntarily without payment.

Speaker 3

In any case, you need a woman.

Speaker 4

You can't erase women from child bearing.

Speaker 3

And it's just I mean, this is.

Speaker 4

The progressive side of politics, continually erasing and undermining women, whether it's women's spaces, women's rights, now women's role in child bearing.

It's disgusting, it's horrible, it's playing god and it's not going to end well.

And think about those children that could potentially be born as a result of this.

Speaker 3

How do you explain that to them?

Speaker 2

Oh?

Speaker 4

Yeah, you're actually biologically to men, but a woman then had to carry you because we implanted the embryo, so technically she is sort of your mother, but not really.

Like this is not natural.

This is not normal, and it shouldn't be normalized.

Speaker 1

And I think the regulatory guard rails around this stuff has to happen before any further research goes on, because you know, just look at AI for instance, where they went hell for leather with no regulatory guardrails whatsoever, and then you create something that just cannot be regulated.

So if you don't get on top of it now, then there is no hope of doing anything about Because science and medicine, of course, it's going to continue down the line of doing these things.

They're going to investigate everything they possibly can.

But if you don't put any rules in place, it'll all get out of hand before.

Speaker 4

You get And it's big money for them as well, I mean fertility industry, big big money.

Speaker 5

But it does solve the problem though for women that are too old to have babies because they no longer.

Speaker 1

Have eggs, it could yeah, yeah, so that is that is a solution, indeed, And these are the potential benefits, right, But you can't you.

Speaker 5

Had cancer and along eggs, but benefits at what cost?

Speaker 4

And a lot of the time there are other factors going on that mean women have delayed having children because they were told by our culture it's not a good thing to do.

There are many other factors that we can address before we start creating eggs with male DNA.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, yes, I wouldn't be putting another blokes if you were a woman who wanted a child, I wouldn't be seeking two fellas to have viewed the DNA.

Speaker 3

Why not?

Speaker 2

Well, I mean you prefer your own, wouldn't you.

Speaker 1

While we're talking about Hinda and all of these sorts of things, the kids in school, they're not boys and girls, you know every I come on some nights and I just go like, am I on the same planet as everyone else?

Speaker 2

And today is one of those ones.

Speaker 1

You might We talked about a story earlier in the year when you Ow's Teachers Federation put out this communica saying, you know, you should call your kids not boys and girls, but intellectuals and epic humans and awesome humans and superstars and all this sort of garbage.

Well, it turns out it's not just the New South Wales Teachers Federation.

This stuff is going around now, some form of it anyway, from state governments, including South Australia, where the Education Department is telling teachers that they are responsible this is a quote responsible for promoting the use of inclusive and non gendered language within the education or early childhood server setting.

So they're explicitly being told to use non gendered language.

And a number of teachers have been discussing this online and the Daily Telegraph had this story today and good on them exposing what a number of the different states are doing.

I mean, the same rules of play all over the country.

Victoria, queenslandts have similar readings, and so teachers have been asking the question, well, if I can't call my students boys girls and they are boys girls, what can I call them?

And the suggestions that have come back to these teachers include Cherum's friends, funsters, Oh yes, anyway, good morning funsters, good morning miss Racken back, I mean.

Speaker 2

What on earth?

Speaker 1

And the other one, which is perhaps site more appropriate in this case, is the suggestion is comrades, which is probably what the teachers are calling each other in the breakroom.

Speaker 2

If this is the sort of stuff they do, I mean, honestly, am I on another planet?

Speaker 4

I yes, Like, I don't know how any parent can look at this and think this is okay.

I mean, the thought I had was I am scared to send my future children to a public school or anywhere where these teachers' unions have any influence whatsoever, because if this is the kind of stuff that they are being told to indoctrinate children with, that there's no such thing as boys and girls, only epic humans and funsters.

Speaker 3

That is just plain weird.

Speaker 4

And even the term guys referring to students collectively as guys is apparently provocative because it assumes they're guys and its gendered language.

What has the world come to.

Speaker 1

Who was the former army chief that became Australian of the Year.

His name escapes me anyway, He was in the same year as Kate McGregor, who wrote him the speech about behavior in the military that basically won him the Australian the Year should have gone to Caate MacGregor.

Speaker 2

But he then became Australian of the Year.

Speaker 1

And came out and did a campaign where he said you should not use the word guys in the workplace because it's just ridiculous.

Speaker 2

David Morris.

David Morrison's I.

Speaker 5

I have got two kids in a local public school, and it was funny.

I actually we were at an assembly and the vice principal said, good morning, boys and girls.

I said to my husband, oh my god, I've never been so happy to hear those words before.

But we are demonizing those terms boys and girls, and that's making this next generation think that there's something wrong with those words when it's just human biology.

What is wrong we're saying boys and girls.

We are jamming activism into the classroom.

There's just no place for it.

They should be out there playing in the playground, doing maths and reading and writing napland results are going down the drain because they're focusing on stuff.

Little kids' brains cannot cope with this sort of rubbish, as well as things like climate change, and they just need to be taught the basics of how to be a good human really, and reading and writing.

And it was interesting because a Daily Telegraph where this article was online, had a poll asking whether gender inclusive language should be used in the school ground.

Now I did do the poll a few hours ago, might be slightly different, but at the time there were eleven thousand people had voted.

Ninety seven percent said no, there is no place for this in schools.

Speaker 4

It's absurd and no wonder so many kids are confused and anxious.

Just look on what they're being taught in schools.

But the gender nonsense is not unique to Australia.

It's also over in the United States, where a Senate hearing erupted after a Republican senator questioned a former Biden official on why, as part of their plan to reduce gun violence, they were promoting safe spaces.

Speaker 3

For two spirited people.

Check it out.

Speaker 7

You are the witness called by the Democrats on this committee, so I assume you reflect their views.

Well, you don't want to fund the police, you want to fund safe spaces for two spirit individuals.

What is a two spirit person?

I feel like I'm looking at a two faced individual because you talk about retard No, sir, you're looking at somebody who's reading you your own words, and I'd like to hear an answer.

Program's the answer.

The answer is, you don't have any solutions.

You want to invest in gobble the gooog.

And I take a fense that you would think that I'm.

Speaker 3

Focused on word a lot of question dodging.

Speaker 4

Now, he was asked specifically, what does too spirited mean?

Speaker 3

What does this mean?

Because your gun.

Speaker 4

Violent strategy is hinging on inclusivity for two spirited people.

Now too spirit is apparently it's it's very bizarre.

It's apparently in reference to indigenous groups where they have this concept of like transgenderism that is apparently ancient and before before Western interference.

So there's this ancient too spirit concept of that you can be somehow too genders.

Speaker 3

It's all very very strange.

Speaker 1

Supposedly you have like male and masculine and feminine spirits or.

Speaker 2

Some business and I don't know.

Speaker 1

I'm going to go home and I can look at my drinks trolley and determine whether the bourbon is masculine and the dealer is feminine.

That's the spirits I generally deal with.

I don't know about anyone else, but I mean, like, what is going So we defund the police and we're just going to replace the whole lot with them, you know, spaces led by Native Americans who believe that they are male and female at the same time.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Speaker 1

And these are the people who worked in the Biden administration.

Speaker 5

Well, the issue there is that it's just so bizarre that he couldn't answer the question, and he doesn't even know what it is they're calling to defund the police and put it towards something that he doesn't actually know what he's calling for.

And you just hate to think how much other taxpayer funded money is going to things like this.

You know, I think about in our own country.

Remember just internamaginger Price was going to have a role under Peter Duncan where she was going to look at the excessive spending and four hundred and fifty thousand dollars is going to Welcome to Country ceremonies.

So you think about where all this money is going.

It's just crazy that he just couldn't answer the question.

Speaker 1

And if you thought two Spirit was pretty good, take a gander at this one that Clinton Maynard over at two GB turned up.

Speaker 8

In the gender section on this particular online application for a job, there were thirty three options.

It starts female male, A gender A dronone by gender cis female sis, male cisgender DEMI boy.

I could go on, what's it good to do with applying for a job?

Speaker 1

I mean, for goodness, sake again, I thought a cis male.

Speaker 2

Was a bloke.

You thought it was a bit female, a little bit sissy.

Speaker 1

I don't know, but apparently it means that you are a male who was born in a male body and still believes you for So you're just a male.

Speaker 2

You're a bloke.

Yes, you just.

Speaker 3

Want a label, but you're actually just a bloke.

Speaker 2

How many do you need on a job?

Speaker 3

There?

Speaker 5

Thirty three though?

Thirty three different genders?

And what the hector to apply for a job?

What's a demi boy?

Why do they just keep inventing new gender?

Speaker 2

Why is it mmy boy the pope?

Speaker 5

When you're applying for a job, shouldn't you be talking more so about your skills and your experience?

I don't understand why it matters about having to list thirty three genders.

Couldn't you just put don't want to say?

Speaker 4

Or well, if you're calling yourself a demi boy, I'm curious as to what skills you do actually bring, because logic is probably not one of them.

Speaker 1

I do wonder, though, if you were a demi boy, do you reckon you'd be able to get a job in the US military?

Because I tell you what, Pete haig seth over that the defense of the defense the secretary of war.

So I was going for defense here, it's not the Secretary of Defense anymore.

Is the Secretary of War?

Speaker 2

Is who he is?

Speaker 1

Gave a bit of a stump speech to He got people from all over, you know, out posts of the US military.

They all had to come back and listen to him, and he basically said, there will be no demi boys.

Speaker 6

To remove the social justice, politically correct and toxic ideological garbage that had infected our department.

To rip our out the politics.

No more identity months, dei offices, dudes in dresses, no more climate change worship, no more division distraction or gender delusions, no more debris.

As I've said before, and we'll say again, we are done with that.

Speaker 1

Shit here here I'm so I'm crying about the lack of dutes and dresses in the military now though, And look to be fair, he does say I am more than happy to.

Speaker 2

Have women in the military.

Put them on the front line.

You just have to rise to the requisite standard.

Speaker 6

When it comes to any job that requires physical power to perform in combat.

Those physical standards must be high and gender neutral.

If women can make it excellent.

Speaker 1

If not, it is what it is.

Speaker 6

If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs.

Speaker 1

So this is the thing I've never understood about the argument about whether women should or should not be in the military.

Personally, I don't think they should be on the front line.

I know you might call me a misogynist or a chauvinist or whatever for saying that, But you know, for me, I think it's just a chivalrous point of view that we shouldn't be putting women in the line of fire.

But if you accept that, yes, women should be allowed to serve on the front line, I've never understood why you then go in order to do that, we will lower the bar to get more women in.

Like, surely you don't want more women in the military just for the sake of having more women who can get shot and dead.

If you have a war, you have a standard.

If women make it fine.

Speaker 3

Your spot on.

Speaker 5

And remember during the campaign, Andrew Hasty had this exact He was called out by reporters where he literally said he had to carry his eighty five kilo comrade and their packs to be able to get his wounded soldier off the front line.

And this is what is expected of the soldiers, and if a female wants to do that position, then you've got to go through the same rigorous training, but more so for your own protection, to ensure that you are up to standard.

But wasn't so refreshing to listen to Pete haig Seth.

I really enjoyed everything that he said.

Speaker 3

There's more.

Speaker 5

I know that we're going to be sharing, but I just thought it's great that he's standing up there.

That wokeness is not going to be tolerated.

There's not a place for it within the army, the DEI and all of that sort of stuff.

It's time to move on.

And I hope that we can follow suit here.

Speaker 3

One hundred percent.

Speaker 4

And this is the only gender neutral I like gender neutral recruitment standards.

Speaker 3

Great.

Speaker 4

You guys always talk about how we need to treat people the same gender neutral everything.

Okay, well let's have the same standards to apply to everyone.

On a similar note, Pete haig Seth also railed against fat troops and fat generals.

Speaker 3

Check it out.

Speaker 6

Ing to look out at combat formations or really any formation and see fat troops.

Likewise, it's completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals in the halls of the Pentagon.

So whether you're an airborne ranger or a chairborne ranger, a brand new private, or a four star general, you need to meet the height and weight standards and pass the PT tests.

Speaker 4

Now, the women at the VIEW were outraged that he would target fat people and say that is not okay.

Speaker 3

They said, the optics of this were terrible.

Speaker 9

I'm actually really defuddled by why he did that.

The optics were terrible.

Return to the highest male standard for combat positions because the troops were fat.

I don't understand how that was supposed to be an uplifting message for our military.

Speaker 4

I don't think it was supposed to be an uplifting message for the military.

Speaker 3

I think it was supposed to be a wake.

Speaker 4

Up call that they need to be They are the Department of War.

Speaker 3

They've rebranded.

Speaker 4

They're going on the attack, and they need to be able to defend the United States of America when we're at war with China.

No one's going to be going, oh my gosh, but we just need another fat person on the front lines.

That would really help us so much.

No, you need to win wars.

This wasn't supposed to be a pep talk.

This was supposed to be a reality.

Speaker 1

Check, which got one thing right.

The optics sometimes are not pretty good on fat people.

And Joy Bihar as well, she's one of the other bread bags on this program.

And you know she thinks this is the end of America.

Speaker 9

Every day it's every day is a shark and owe here and I for one skeptical that we will survive this.

Speaker 2

What I'm skip, but.

Speaker 3

We're not going to survive it.

Speaker 1

So the blokes they say, we need a strong military so we could win a.

Speaker 2

War if we were in one, but we're not going to survive.

Speaker 5

I know, so dramatic watching that vision, but not surprising.

And I think when you are in the army, think about how fit everyone used to be, and it's part of their ability.

It is key to be able to go out and defend your country.

But I think anyone that's out there, you know, the police force, probably the same.

If you've got to be running around and using your body on the line, you want to be as fit as you possibly can.

Donald Trump also spoke quite glowingly off the back of what Hegseth had to say and said the same thing, you need to.

Speaker 4

Be fit and it starts from the top.

And this is why I liked hag Seth's message.

The generals aren't immune from this either, because it is a cultural issue.

If you have excellence the whole way through the ranks of the defense force, you will be strong.

Speaker 3

But if there's a.

Speaker 4

Sense that you've got the fat cats off the top.

Speaker 2

Who are you're not fat cats?

No, we can't have fat cats.

Speaker 3

Anymore, the thin catcher.

Speaker 4

If you've got them at the top who are not up to sand and not up to scratch, well, what's the incentive for the younger people coming through to meet those standards?

It erodes excellence.

So I love Hagxeth.

Speaker 1

Indeed, speaking of young people meeting standards very quickly before we get to a break.

A groundbreaking study from THEECD says that kids learn better when they read books instead of using technology.

Speaker 2

Who would have thought to.

Speaker 1

It said that their comprehension skills have deeper comprehension and more engagement when they read it versus when they're looking at a screen.

I want to know how much money we spent on that, to be told the bleeding obvious.

Speaker 5

Yes, I know, and it's very much bleeding obvious.

And I know with my own children when they have their iPads and they go, I don't need to write that word because of the.

Speaker 3

Predictive text does it for them, so.

Speaker 5

They don't learn to read or write using a screen.

Speaker 2

So true, Why would you want to write these days?

I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1

Get a fountain pin.

Get a fountain pin and learn to write by hand.

And it is actually a completely different experience than you may actually enjoy writing by your kids.

Are fountain penny your grandkids, they might actually enjoy it.

After the break, we'll get into the papers on the front of the Herald Sun tomorrow just how bad things are getting with the tobacco wall and the threats being put upon innocent shops.

Speaker 2

And on the front of the.

Speaker 1

Os the university that now has a majority of its students coming from overseas.

That more soon, Let's get into tomorrow's news tonight here on the Lake Debate.

Of course, we've got tomorrow's papers, as we do every evening on the Herald Sun tomorrow, Jamie, where they smoke this fire?

Speaker 5

Yeah, this is a scary story.

Caleb thug Law Country Store staff have lifted the lid on how an underworld cartel is terrorizing small businesses.

Their shop was hit by a ramrey days after the owners ignored a chilling order from crime kingping Chasm hamad, you have twenty four hours to contact the commission on WhatsApp.

Is what this handwritten note left on the grocery's door read.

This is frightening.

Speaker 2

So this is Hammad Chasm.

Speaker 1

Hammad is one of the big players in the list of tobacco game and basically his boys go around Victoria going to you know, convenience stores and tobacconists and whatever, and they say you've got twenty four hours or forty eight hours to pay up a large summer money.

Normally it's three to five grand, which is protection money.

Otherwise will come and five on your ram raid.

And then they basically force you, with the threat of being targeted, to sell their illicit tobacco for them.

Speaker 2

I mean, what a great business model.

Speaker 4

It's so brazen though, Like that's what shocks me, the fact that they feel like they can get away with threatening small business owners and servo operators with being targeted and attacked if they don't start selling illicit tobacco.

I mean that just shows you the state of the justice system and policing in Victoria, where organized crime feels like they have free rein to go and terrorize honest, hardworking small businesses.

Speaker 3

It's just disgusting.

Speaker 2

It is extraordinary.

Speaker 5

I guess it goes back to the story we spoke about yesterday.

Three hundred thousand crimes were unsolved in Victoria, so I can imagine these will all be part of that.

Speaker 1

I've been banging on about this story for years, and I'm glad it's getting good traction now.

But every day there's just another story about how bad this has become, and I fear that it is now so bad that it's almost impossible to get the genie back in the bottle.

Let's look at the front of the Australian tomorrow.

Speaking of trying to get the genie back into the bottle, how about this University of Sydney's new equation International students equal fifty one percent.

Foreigners outnumbered Australian students at the nation's oldest university last year, with new figures revealing for the first time the magnitude of institutions reliance on revenue from international enrollments.

As universities Australia prepares to take its biggest post pandemic delegation of university leaders to China this month.

Beyond campus, concentration of international students at almost every university has been revealed in calculations produced for The Australian by the Federal Education Department.

And if you have a look on the front page there there is a graphic.

Speaker 2

It's probably a.

Speaker 1

Bit small to see on your screen.

But if you pick up the odds tomorrow, the first one there is, you said, which is fifty one percent.

Then you've got University of New South Wales forty six percent, Murdoch University forty five.

Speaker 2

Then you go all the way down an.

Speaker 1

US forty percent, University Queensland thirty nine percent, on and on it goes.

Speaker 2

And the reliance now on.

Speaker 1

Overseas students we know is huge, even though we're told we're trying to cut down on them.

When you have a UNI allegedly one of the most prestigious in the country and fifty one percent majority of their students are foreign, there is something wrong.

Speaker 4

Who do you universities actually serve anymore?

What is the point of Australian universities.

I think that's a serious question.

Where's a country have to answer, because clearly they've just become multi billion dollar business that are going to use international students for their own revenue, to hire more bureaucrats, to build more buildings, to create a bigger and bigger behemoth.

But what value is that actually providing to Australians anymore?

The student experience is shot, the value of degrees is going down.

Our reputation at internationally is at stake because people know this is a farce.

And in some degrees like it, it says two thirds of students are international.

Speaker 3

I mean, this is just nuts.

Speaker 5

You can see why they continue to take international students when some of them are paying up to two hundred thousand dollars for their degree.

So it's certainly almost like a cash cow for the universe.

Speaker 4

Yes, it's just the money printing machine.

But hey, maybe some universities should go bus, maybe their budgets should be cut because there's a lot of waste and bloating there.

But in the Daily Telegraph tomorrow, our Island Dream brave new bid to save working port and build thousands of new homes.

Business leaders to save Sydney Harbour's last working port have unveiled stunning new plans to prove Gleebe Island can continue maritime operations and still deliver thousands of homes for the New South Wales government.

Now Gleeb Island is just on the west side of the Anzac Bridge as you were leaving the city and this all started to unfold after the rose Hill Racecourse housing plan fell over and now Chris Minds is going, oh my gosh, where else are we going to build thousands of houses in Sydney.

Speaker 3

Well, this is one of them.

Speaker 4

But the problem is, as the article states, it's the last working port in Sydney Harbor, so it is a critical piece of infrastructure.

Now they're looking at ways that you could potentially have the port operating alongside housing.

Good idea.

I think it's a pretty bad I saw at the moment.

So it'll be nicer for the area.

But you have to have that port.

You can't get rid of it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean they can get it to work.

Speaker 1

Good on them.

Speaker 2

I think it's greater.

Speaker 1

I'll fight the death to keep working fort in Sydney and anyone who believes in climate change, by the way, or to be faring for a working port in Sydney, because if they don't have a working port here because of course we're broadcasting in a Sydney then the ships either have to go to Newcastle or Port Kimbler, where you then put the gear on a truck and send it into Sydney.

Speaker 2

So it's bad for the environment.

Speaker 1

I'm telling you if you don't have a working port in Sydney, the only thing.

Speaker 2

Is you know, it's all apartments.

Speaker 1

And I know that people need places to live, but I don't know people really want to live in dog boxes.

Speaker 2

I get if they've got no choice, that's what they're going to do, but is it really what people want.

I don't know.

Speaker 5

Well, let's have a look at the front page of the Courier mail, where trust in the cops falls.

Only one in two Queenslanders believe police treat people fairly.

As public trust in the service drops to its lowest in a decade, just sixty eight point three percent have agreed that police act professionally.

I don't know about this.

Speaker 2

It's it's pretty extort one in two queens Ander's bluepit.

Speaker 1

It I'm not surprised to some do.

I reckon COVID went a long way to destroying people's faith in police, which is unfit to some degree because they did a lot of stuff at the behest of state premiers, etc.

But it also speaks to probably why police forces are struggling so much to get people to sign up, and this has been a problem across the country because if the population doesn't trust the police, why would you want to become a police officer?

Speaker 3

Correct?

Speaker 4

And I think people also might be looking overseas at places like the UK where you have police arresting people because of social media posts.

Is this really the best use of resources?

And then ultimately it just undermines trust, which is bad for everyone.

Speaker 1

Indeed, on the front of the Northern Territory newsed tomorrow, VAD push progresses Voluntary sister dying laws will soon be introduced to the Northern Territory Parliament, making a significant step towards territories regaining the right to access end of life choices almost three decades after they were stripped away.

And of course the territories do have the ability to do that do it now.

I think the Act has got it and that was the trouble last time, of course, because the territories are a completely different legal setup and when they tried to do it.

As the article says, thirty years ago the Faedial government stepped in and stopped them from doing it.

And you know, rather ironically, they're one of the last jurisdictions left in the country where they don't have it, having been the first that tried to do it.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I think this is something I think a voluntary assist of dying is something that we should all have access to.

Speaker 3

If you want.

Speaker 5

To go down that path, it's something that we should.

Speaker 3

Have access to.

Well, I think it's pretty sad.

Speaker 4

But in the Townsville Bullets and Tomorrow the headline is I'm going to die.

Speaking of dying, a Townsville man with terminal prostate cancer had his diagnosis missed for two years after Townsville University Hospital failed to follow up on his referral.

Now he's spending his final days fighting to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Now, this Townsville hospital bungle has been unfolding for days now.

Speaker 3

But it's just heartbreaking, it.

Speaker 1

Is, indeed, And when you have human consequences like that, a man whose case should have been picked up, it is just awful.

After the break, the man who reckons he's the love child of Queen Charles, Queen Charles quing Charles and Queen Camilla and his case against the Queen Saint government, and how do you feel about aluminium wine bombs that's coming up?

Well, well, well do we have a doozy for you today, John Day to Day's entry is Simon Duranti Day.

He says that he is the love child of King Charles and Queen Camilla.

And he went off to the police in Queensland because he was most upset that people were posting on Facebook about his lineage and his adoption and all this sort of business and putting documents online that disproved that he is actually the love child of the King and Queen.

And so we went to the cops and said you must do something about this, and the cops said no.

So he tried to soothe them and said that his human rights had been denied and he needed a restoration of natural justice.

Funnily enough, the court said there was no case to answer.

But if we get that photo back there of old Nix, what's his name, Simon de Andy Day next to the king, do we really think is he the love child of Charles and famili.

Speaker 5

A bit of resemblance.

Speaker 3

The eyes and the eyebrows.

That's about it.

But I think he's a bit de lulu.

Speaker 4

But someone el lulu with zero salulu.

Now, someone else who is also rather delusional is someone who's called the QAnon Shaman.

He was an is pardoned by Trump after he participated in the January sixth riots, but now he has turned against Trump and is suing him for forty trillion dollars, claiming he is the true commander in chief.

Speaker 3

The other people he've met his named in.

Speaker 4

His lawsuit the Federal Reserve, the National Security Agency, the IMF, the World Bank, the State of Israel, x T Mobile, and Warner Brothers Studios.

So this is a far reaching complaint that allegedly reads more like a manifesto than a serious legal document.

But with horns like that, I mean, something's going on up there.

Speaker 1

Forty trillion dollars.

Speaker 2

No one has forty trillion dollars.

Where's where's he going to get the forty trillion dollars from?

Speaker 3

It's clearly a son and he says that the.

Speaker 1

US should only have two laws, the Bill of Rights and the original US Constitution.

Apart from that, go for your life.

I'll tell you what it sounds like a fun experiment.

Speaker 2

I'd love to see it.

Speaker 5

Well for wine drinkers, would you be having your drop out of an aluminium wine bottle?

Speaker 3

Well?

Speaker 5

In Victoria, Brown Brothers have created the first ever aluminium bottle now.

They said they've done this as a way to reduce carbon emissions from mass glass production and transport.

And these aluminium bottles are forty percent lighter than the glass equivalent and you can exchange it for ten cents at a recycling center.

I don't know.

Is it going to take a little bit of time to get wine drinkers to move away from a glass bottle and instead drink out of aluminium.

Speaker 2

Something about it just doesn't seem right.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I agree, but there's something to the glass with like keeping it air tight sealed.

The way you store wine makes a difference indeed, So how will this impact the flavor?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

There's an argument though that it could actually be better because there's no light getting in, So if you're storing long term, maybe it would be I haven't looked into the specifics of what I mean he does to wine over the long term, but I don't know.

You can get wine in a can now just doesn't seem quite right.

To me, I'm going home to have wine out of a glass firal.

Thank you very much, thanks for watching NIXT to me, depending on the show.

Speaker 3

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