General, Welcome to the Wake de Base.

Good evening and welcome to the program.

I'm Caleb Bond with Frei Leitch and filling in for James McPherson this week, Holly Hughes.

Here's what's coming up tonight.

There's a rap group from Sydney.

They're Mormons.

I know that sounds odd, but bear with me.

They've never been able to perform in Sydney till now because their lyrics glorify gang violence and some of the group's members were jailed for violent crimes.

But after their first show in their hometown, a Sydney councilor wants the Lord Mayor to ask police by so many of them monitor the performance.

God Marty in the papers Ripper and the Courier Mail.

Parents are being asked to pay to take their kids' artworks home from a childcare center to help cover debts.

You won't believe just how much money they want.

And later we found the dopiest dope of the day that we will probably ever feature.

You can see him there on the screen.

He was released from the overnight cells and then he stole a police car straight away or details about that soon, but let's start in Melbourne tonight where else where you know, it's every passing day there's a story that proves Victoria has turned into a failed state.

So exhibit five hundred and thirty two we have for you comes from approximately three pm yesterday in Elizabeth Street.

You can see the vision here of a woman at a shop called G Studio.

You can see her breaking in, knocking down the front door of this luxury clothing shop there.

She then walks in.

One of the staff members gets injured.

In the process of all of this, She's steals thousands of dollars worth of clothes and bags and jewelry.

You can see it, just ransacking through the place.

She then walks out onto the street and by this time there's a big crowd.

I mean it's Elizabeth Street, it's the middle of the Melbourne Sea.

But at three pm on a Sunday, and by the way, these days the weekend is when the Melbourne CBD is at its busiest, so there are people just watching this woman ransack the joint.

She walks out and continues up the street and as far as I'm aware, the police still haven't found it.

The last we saw today is that the Victorian Police said they were investigating this, which is just extraordinary.

It tells you how bad things have become in Melbourne that not only does this happen in the middle of the day with seeming impunity.

And you know, I don't know whether this woman was affected by something.

Look, you've got to have something going on to be able to knock a door down with your bare hands and feet, I have to say as a woman, particularly at three pm in the afternoon.

But the fact that that's where we've hit now, and there's been a massive increase in violent crime in the Melbourne see but in a nearly thirty percent increase, you've got shops and retail groups reporting that theft is the worst it's ever been.

Something's got to give.

Look and if you actually look at that vision and you kind of get closer in on it, she's either got a tattoo around her ankle or an ankle brak.

I did wonder about that, and I wonder whether the police might have a bit of a look at that and see whether that might help them track her down a little bit faster, because perhaps there's some beeping going on at a police station somewhere.

If she's in breach of those distances where you're allowed to go under ankle bracelet protections.

So we do know in Victoria they do love a five kilometer radius at any given moment.

I'm sure that there's only a limited space.

But the fact that Victorians were just prepared to stand by and take video footage while that occurred, there was a girl injured in the store and no action was taken, And you've got to think, did anyone call the police?

Did anyone call an ambulance whilst they were videoing and watching this that's now been shared and viewed hundreds of thousands of time on social media.

Well that's my question.

Why was everyone just standing around a Sure she looked crazy, Sure she was on she could have been on drugs, who knows, But there were enough people there who could detain her.

I mean, maybe not in Victoria.

I don't know what kind of men they breed down there, but you'd think I mean, seriously, there were a lot of people standing around, and I think it just shows you how little loyalty people feel nowadays to those around them.

Remember the footage from a couple weeks ago of Arena Zurutzka on the train in the United States and she got stabbed in the neck and there were people around, and one woman just walked off and left her and she died on the floor of a train alone.

Took a full minute for anyone to come help her.

And I fear crime has become so normalized in Victoria.

This has become just another day in the Melbourne CBD, people don't even feel like they need to step in, or they go, what's the point of putting myself in danger when they're probably gonna lock this woman up and then she'll get released on bail the next day and go do the same thing exactly exactly.

And I think that's the point is it's indicative of you know, people go, oh jeez, this is happening again, right.

I think, particularly in Melbourne nice ispect people have been desensitized to this kind of thing, and there is this almost bystander attitude now where you just know, we'll whip the phone out and take some footage for posterity, because that's just what everyone does.

And I know Elizabeth Street in Melbourne quite well, and many of you at home would know.

I lived in Melbourne for nearly two years and the intersection in particular of Elizabeth Street and Flinders Street, Like, if you've spent any time down there, it is just full of vagrants and junkies and there's litter everywhere.

It's not a particularly nice place.

So if you spend any time on Elizabeth Street, you just knin't of get used to seeing people that you really wish weren't there, but you just know they're going to be there, and you almost put the blinkers on and forget that it's even happening.

Otherwise you'd be walking around and watching your back all the time, and you just sort of get used to it eventually.

So I suppose it's only the logical conclusion of that phenomenon that when you then see someone on Elizabeth Street knocking the door of a shop down, you go, well, I suppose it's Litherbus Street there.

Well, I guess also, you know, the way Victoria works is you'd probably be the end end.

Up arrested, and that's right.

You tried to do anything to apprehend them, and they probably charge you with salt whilst trying to stop this crazy person.

Indeed, why don't we talk about alicta tobacco one of your one of my favorite topics, also one of yours.

I just the mind boggles at how this ongoing stupidity is allowed to continue.

So when Mark Butler was a junior Health minister, we had Nicola Roxon bring in plane packaging of cigarettes and that was going to change access to the tobacco market.

And we've seen now Mark Butler come in as Health Minister consistently increasing this excise and new excis has just gone on which has now pushed cigaret burettes outside of what an economist would call the market elsticity in the supplying of mind, in the area of where that price point hits.

Smoking rates aren't changing.

Smoking rates have hit exactly where the price point was ever going to get them to their lowest point.

The people that still want to go on buy a Winni Blue are going to go buy a Winni Blue regardless of price.

But what we're saying because of these price pushing companies, organized crime is taking over this sector.

The black market has been allowed to flourish.

But of course this government picks out of the Health Department one of its czars who's one of the anti tobacco zealots that higher cost at all costs when it comes to cigarettes, I mean, these are the people who don't believe adults should be able to make their own personal choice that they you know, if they really feel that way, they should just make it illegal.

But saying that this literally isn't the problem.

The price isn't the problem.

But we're seeing now that the convenience stores that were convenience stores that were on the corner, genuinely run businesses have lost so much revenue from the sale of elicit tobacco and organized crimes being allowed to flourish and flourish, yet nothing is being done.

So this woman, she's the illicit tobacco and e cigarette Commissioner.

I didn't know such a role existed.

I learned today her name.

But her name is Amber.

I'm probably going to butcher her surname, so please forgive me.

Amber Shuhita is the best go I'm going to have better than I would have done.

Hy Tall, You probably could have used a ruder version of that.

But she says, and this is in the price is one of the most effective tools for reducing smoking prevalence.

That's well established.

At the same time, I recognize that large price gaps can be exploited.

So she's talking about the fact that the tax has driven the price so high.

The evidence in front of me suggests the threat of serious and organized crime is driven by a complex mix of factors beyond price, and that changing the exercise rate would not necessarily be effective into two in criminal networks ongoing involvement in the tobacco market.

Now, she may well be right from one perspective, which is that it has now become so far gone that if you reduce the tax it may shrink the illegal market.

It's not going to get rid of the illegal market.

But surely if you are the illegal cigarette and Ease Cigarette commissioner, you should be able to acknowledge that the whole reason we've ended up here in the first place is because of the higher tax.

She now says we're on the front foot of breaking the business model.

Have your walk down a main street anytime recently.

I don't think we're on the front foot of this, And she doesn't seem to even realize what the cause is.

Yeah, I mean I think you have to do both.

Right.

You have to look at the tax because obviously it is so high.

Why would anyone not go to elicit tobacco?

To be honest, cigarettes are so expensive.

If you want to get the cost of living crisis, you've got to afford your electricity bill, You've got to get the cost of your fags down.

It is true.

But on the other hand, until around July here in New South Wales, it was health bureaucrats who were policing tobacco.

A handful of bureaucrats trying to police thousands of tobacconists across the state.

Now, when you're dealing with organized crime, that should really be a job left to the police, not some bureaucrats in Sydney to do so.

I think you have to do both.

You have to do the enforcement side, but you also have to look at the tax and ultimately I think it's about changing the risk reward ratio.

Right now, there's zero risk for these organized criminals.

Why would they go out and sell hard drugs when they can sell elicit tobacco openly on the street and face very little punishment And then the reward is all upside.

So if you make enforcement better, then you make it riskier put in tougher penalties.

But also, yes, removing demand by cutting the tax wild be good.

The feeds need to be made to pay for the enforcement though, because it is through the tax that they've caused this great market.

And then the states, as you say, like in New South Wales, you've got these brewer craps that were previously responsible for it, which was fine because they didn't really have anything to deal with.

And then the federal government come through and says, oh, back at a dari's cost, you're fifty bucks now, and so the gang say, okay, well we'll sell them for twenty or fifteen or ten even in some places.

All of a sudden they've got a big problem to deal with, so you've got to send the coppers in.

But the coppers are stretched doing other things as well, So if the feeds want to jack up the tax and make money out of that, they should hand that money straight to the States and say okay, well now you can go and deal with the problem.

But it's unfair as it is.

You've got to go back a step further too.

This is all coming in through our boarders.

So Border force, do.

We want them cracking down on illegal firearms and guns and other sorts of contraband coming into this country, or do we want them checking every.

Container for illicit cigarettes?

I mean, you guys a finite amount of money and a final amount.

Of resources for border force.

And where do we want our preference to be picking up the illegal cigarettes or picking up the guns or whatever are the contraband that could have serious detrimental consequences for Australians outside that choose to have a cigarette.

Yeah, but on the point you raised, Caleb, that's kind of the problem with federalism, which is that the federal government makes decisions, but it's often the state governments that have to pay for them.

Federal government opens the borders to millions of migrants, it's the state governments that have to provide all the infrastructure.

I've sometimes argued we should go back to the pre war arrangements of the states living income and you know, let's say a bit of competitive federalism, and.

I think that's the competition our country sorely needs.

But how about this.

We often bring you some stories of cuckoo councils, and today the City of Melbourne did not disappoint one resident of South Yarra.

Toby Ralph or his wife parked in these saying car parking spot she'd been parking in for years, got a ticket, did everything right and then she got fined.

According to the council parking inspector, it was because she was obstructing the footpath.

But here's the thing about the park.

It's half on the road, it's half on the footpath that is the designated parking spot.

She parked in the correct spot, yet she was still fined by the council for obstructing the foot path.

You can see the parking the sign there that has you know, two P or whatever it directly behind that, like that is a park.

That is a parking spot.

The council has a sign there saying it is a parking spot.

She parked in the park, and yet they still find her and then they appealed the fine to the council.

Council said, nope, that's correct.

You've obstructed the footpath even though you were parking in a legitimate spot.

And it was only after the Herald sign raised questions that they backed down.

How crazy is that?

I mean, it's typical the things that they will try to get away with.

You just had a discussion about competitive states and federalism.

Councils see you later, like, oh yeah, people are whelmingly nuts and they are run by people who make this crazy stuff up, try to do ridiculous revenue raising who focus on issues that have nothing to do with what their responsibilities are.

And then you have counselors like the Green Skuy on the Northern Beaches racking up thirty two thousand dollars even expenses like no, thank you, we do not need you people anymore and you're crazy.

Roads raids rubbish and you can't even manage to get the roads right.

That's why they need to put these fins out to pay for people like that to go off to climate conferences and these sorts of things.

I mean so often I deal when I was a local government reporter with stories like this, where you know, someone to get a fine that was unjust store or you know that they couldn't get I'd have people would write to me and say, I live in a housing trust or in u South walesa called housing commission I don't want to see in other parts of the country, and they'd say, you know, there's a light or something in a common area that they just refuse to replace, and so I'd send a note off and it'd be fixed within half an hour because once they hear that the meal all the media is going to do something about all.

We better go and fix it.

Now.

It's amazing the power we can wield, But the reality is we shouldn't have to wield that power like it shouldn't take a journalist to call up a council to say, like someone has legitimately parked in a parking spot, they don't deserve a parking fine.

This is what they will try to do to you when they think they can get away with it.

And try this one on for size.

I spoke briefly about it at the top of the show.

But Sydney City Council is a councilor called Jess Miller, and she's put up a motion that is going to be debated by the Sydney City Council this week saying that Clovermore, the Lord Mayor of Sydney, should write to the police to ask why they monitored so closely a rap group's performance.

Now, I'm not sure what perview that the council has over this.

And the mob is called One four.

I'm assuming, like me, you hadn't heard of them until today.

They don't play this stuff on the lunchtime concert on Classic FM.

But here's a bit of one four one four was too active.

It was still urging to find They're in the field cost and I guarantee you I'm working my crew, still in the trap, flip of backs, this and that word as one as even my hold.

How can they run love without tacks?

I'm not really sure.

A parents called drill rap again, don't ask me what that is anyway.

So this mob they're from Sydney, they're from Mountain Drewitt.

They're Mormons.

Apparently they met at the local church and set out this musical group.

And they've effectively been banned from performing in Sydney for years because a lot of what they sing about is his gang crime and biking violence, all this sort of stuff.

So the police have basically prevented them from being able to perform a number of them have spent time in the slammer for violent crime themselves.

They finally get to have a performance in Sydney.

By the way, last year someone had put out a hit on these guys, like wanted to have them killed.

So they get to have a performance in Sydney, and so the police go, we might just monitor it closely and make sure nothing goes awry.

And this stupid Jess Miller.

Woman wants the Lord Mayor to ride off to the police and say how deep you monitor this performance?

And by the way, she says to the Mayor, the Lord me must say that it was an inclusive performance.

What are they spending their time on?

It is truly hilarious.

And this counselor in her speech about this bill, she cided, you know this egregious over policing.

They had twenty five police officers, a dog squad, a riot squad, and they searched every single attendee.

I think that tells you more of the rappers and the attendees then it does about the police.

That's just the police looking out for the rest of the general public.

And you heard the music.

A lot of it is veiled references to all sorts of illicit activity they have served jail time.

And for her to then congratulate them on an inclusive performance, inclusive to who, inclusive of what, all sorts of things that are banned by the Lord, it's crazy.

Holy Look, I got nothing.

And as I say, you've got to learn something every day, and today I learned what drill rap was.

And it will not be hitting my Spotify playlist anytime soon.

No, I don't think it'll be appearing on minor that to be perfectly honest.

While we're talking about councils as well, and this has happened across the border.

I think a lot of the energy retailers do it now and basically everyone but councils are joining in too.

Is if you want to be sent a paper bill in the mail, they charge you a sir charge for doing so.

And one that popped up today and has got people hot under the collar in Queensland is Redland City Council near Brisbane, where they now want to charge you a dollar seventy per rates.

Notice they send you with the mail, so over the year that's seven bucks.

You might go, well, it it's only a dollar seventy You pop seven bucks.

Who really gives a toss?

But isn't it the reality that we pay these councils through the nose, and the energy company, and the gas company and the power of the phone company whoever else, is right, we pay them through the nose for a service We are paying for the service already.

And then they turn around and go, well, if you prefer to have your bill written down on a piece of paper, which a lot of people, all of viewers at home, and people get you know, they probably don't have a computer or a smartphone or whatever.

They still operate in a paper world.

There's nothing wrong with that, by the way.

And they want to tell them, oh, you've got to pay a dollar seventy for it.

Don't we already pay enough?

Well, I think we do already pay enough.

There is nothing more satisfying than actually writing paid and the date of when you do that on the old paper bills.

That you used to get for everything.

But you know, you write the elderly and people who aren't particularly computer literate and probably put me in.

That category sometimes.

But you know, things go to junk mail.

And you and I were talking about earlier about a bill that I got for eighty eight cents, you know, one of those silly ones that turns up, but one.

Of those silly ones you get in your own horse.

A very small amount of a horse, like a couple of.

Hairs on its mind.

But the bill was for eighty eight cents, but the late feet was twelve dollars.

But it had actually accidentally gone to my junk file.

And so you know, a lot of these people would know where to look for these things.

And because Redland City Council might not be something at the top of your pops or a few other things as well, you know, people are potentially going to end up with more than just the dollar seventy because they don't find it, and then you win.

I mean, everyone's emailing box, I'm assuming looks like mine and is just trying to find stuff is extraordinary and they get lost and it's not a deliberate attempt to not pay.

The bill, you just can't find it again.

Yeah.

Well, I mean I think this is nothing short of attacks on the vulnerable and attacks on the elderly.

It's going to be elderly people who don't have everything hooked up to their emails and vulnerable people who probably can't afford to have everything hooked up to their email, and they're the ones that are going to have to pay Holly.

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, It's way too much for these elderly people and others in our community to have to fund just to get something on a piece of paper.

But moving overseas now, and I'm sure many many of you have spent some time having a look at what occurred at the memorial for Charlie Kirk.

There was around one hundred thousand people attending a visual and memorial and they ranged from Donald Trump to perhaps the most poignant speech of the day from Eric Kirk, Charlie, Charlie Kirk's wife.

It was just the most extraordinary celebration of not only his life and the work that he had done, but also faith and the conservative movement and how what has happened since, particularly his assassination, his murder.

You haven't seen violence, you haven't seen riots.

You've seen people come together in prayer and supporting each other.

And it was incredible today to watch and see so many of those Americans and people from all around the world come and all across the political spectrum to mark the life of Charlie Kirk.

On the cross.

Our Savior said, Father, forgive them, for they not know what they do.

That man, that young man, I forgive him.

Can you just imagine the strength that that took for her to stand up and give that speech and to forgive the young man who took the life of her husband and the father of her to young children.

Just absolutely heartbreaking.

But I think you know some of the other comments that were made and what we saw from people who weren't Charlie's friends were probably what really drove home the importance of his message that it's.

Not about disagreeing is a bad thing.

It's about debating and discussing and finding either a middle ground or accepting the ability to acknowledge that maybe you're not always going to agree.

But it doesn't have to be around violence.

It can always be about conversation and debate.

So it was an incredible memorial, and I have no doubt we're going to see Turning Point USA grow into a much bigger organization than it probably is at the moment.

International ath.

I can't imagine having the grace to stand there in front of a crowd, you know, and barely a week or two weeks after your husband's been shot neck and say I forgive the guy.

I mean, you couldn't drag those words out of my mouth, to be perfectly honest, you know.

And as you would have probably seen as well, Trump talked about one of the great things about Charlie Kirk was that, you know, he didn't wish ill will upon his opponents, and Trump said, well, I don't feel the same way.

Sorry, Erica, I.

Know, I know which which was, you know, an interesting point to make in light of what Kirk worked for and what his wife talked about, because so many of us would say, yea bagrin, you know, he should be put to a firing squad and all this sort of stuff, you know, to stand up and make that message I forgive him so powerful in terms of what all of this has meant and what happened to her husband, which was a terribly violent moment.

Yeah, definitely.

Well, I think it was an example, probably the most powerful we've seen on the world stage in decades of true Christian faith being lived out publicly and openly.

And you think about the Lord's prayer forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us.

I mean, that is core Christian doctrine.

Each of us are sinners, each of us are separated from God by our sins.

But He sent his son to die for us, so we have forgiveness and eternal life with him, and we have to extend that to other people, even when it's incredibly hard.

And it makes me think of Ian Wilkinson in the Aaron Patterson case, a pastor who forgave her for killing his wife, and he was also a Christian and so I think it's made me certainly reflect on my own faith and I am a Christian, but seeing that lived out so publicly, I mean, it's just it moves your soul, It really does.

I have to say as well.

Van Jones from Seeing and who's someone that I've been critical of recently for comments which he made about that poor woman who was stabbed Ukrainian woman who was stabbed in the United States, and you know, basically said I think he was the one that said, hurt people, hurt people, wasn't it right?

You know, he made very odd comments about that case.

So I've had my issues with him recently.

But I have to say that a video he put out today to coincide with the memorial service, if you haven't already seen it again, encapsulate everything that Kirk stood for and have someone of the left like Van Jones saying, let's dial this down a minute and talk about what's really going on here.

I think is really powerful here.

He is probably Kak and I with my friends at all.

In fact, the last week of his life we were beef and beefing online, beefing on air.

But the day before he died, he did something that shocked me.

He sent me a personal message and calling for personal dialogue, wanted me to come on the show.

He said we can be gentlemen together.

He said we could deal with our disagreements agreeably.

And in the past week and a half, just wat should people talk about civil wars and censorship and all this stuff coming out of his death.

I just thought it was important to let people know, don't put that on Charlie Kirk, because the last day of his life he was reaching out to have not more censorship, more conversation.

You know what.

I think that just about says it all.

Now we have the Brownlow count in.

I'm sure if you're an NFL fan you've been hanging on for it.

Matt Rowe from the Gold Coast Suns has won the Brownlow with thirty seven votes.

Nick Daikos has come in second at twenty nine, and he's got two more one vote games in his last two games, so thirty nine votes he goes to there, which is a pretty convincing win for the year.

Very very exciting.

Congratulations.

Let's move on now.

Another news poll out and the coalition's primary vote has plunged even further to new historic lows it is now twenty nine percent.

Now, interestingly, the core demographics that moves away were men, were young people, and were really all of the Eastern States.

So what's interesting is under Dutton, about forty percent of men and thirty eight percent of women voted for the Coalition on the primary vote.

That gap has now closed, So I guess you know that's actually one positive thing for the coalition.

No more women's problem, right, everyone dislikes them equally, No, no.

No, I think some inside the Liberal Party are trying to reinforce that message.

And so yeah, just absolutely dismal result.

And among young people eighteen to thirty the primary vote you can see on your screen there is down to eighteen percent.

Labor and the Greens together have an overwhelming majority of the youth vote now, which is just incredible.

So, Holly, you've been in the Federal Parliament, you know what it's like being on the inside of the political I would say, what's wrong.

With your generation people?

What is going on both of you here?

What is can you not see what is happening to this country?

It's absolutely I mean I'm tearing my hair out now from the outside.

I do have a number of feelings about where this is going.

And the first one is Susan Lee was elected Labor and there's an element both within the media and within the party who've been determined to pull her down since day one.

And whether you think the Liberal Party has a real or perceived women problem, the actions and behavior of some people and the commentary around her and her ladyship and not even giving her a chance, I don't think he's going to do anything to help that.

So we made very well see that women vote problem come back.

In to play.

But net zero and some of this debate around it ain't going very well for the coalition.

So the rule in politics generally is change the conversation.

And I've been really disappointed.

I held a shadow ministry going into the previous election.

I had submitted costed policies that disappeared into the ether.

That was the shadow erc Other shadow ministers told me they have policies that they had submitted.

Why the coalition is not actually trying to change the conversation And look at some of this lower hanging fruit.

Look at childcare.

People do not want to send their kids to childcare centers, and we are seeing more and more and there's another story out today about abuse or mistreatment of children in childcita.

Why not have a policy that childcare subsidies get paid direct to the parents.

Why not have a look or opener discussion about giving parents and families choice about how they raised their children rather than forcing them through into a childcare system.

But none of these conversations are being held.

This government wants to spend almost seven hundred million dollars on developing an online mental health program.

As soon as government starts to develop something, you know it's not going to work.

You know it's going to be a disaster, and you know it's going to cost a lot more.

But yet no one is talking about this.

Yes, Susan's the lad but there's a big team behind well.

Actually a bit of a smallest diminished good.

Diminishing behind it.

But where are they?

Why are they not out front and center on some of them?

Use there are no policies they've committed to know there.

Were, but there were cost of policies that were submitted, And I hope and I don't know whether this has happened, but quite frankly, every single shadow minister that's there and I handed all of mine over to the new shadow Minister with Mental Health and suicide prevention and.

Said, there you go.

There's five costed work them through all of those policies that were never announced.

They should be out there going.

Look they're a good one that cost much.

But the problem the work's done, but it's more for that.

Susan committed the party to some sort of long process where everything is on the table.

I'll give you an example.

Come to the policy that I put a for men's mental health.

Does anyone want to.

Say that's a bad idea.

That's what I'm saying.

A lot of work's being done and it's now just I don't know, sitting in someone indible and no one is doing anything unless they start to move the dial on the conversation.

These numbers are not going to move.

And as long as you've got a few personalities out there sproaking their own future leadership ambitions and pushing into one direction, which I'm going to explain the electoral voting system for you that you don't need to get out the vote.

It's compulsory voting and compulsory preferential people.

So just remember that.

But if these people want to keep pushing and undermining Susan from the beginning, these numbers aren't going to go anywhere anyway.

If they've got to come up and there's the lesson, they've got to come up with policy.

If you've got nothing to sell, there's nothing to buy, right, But who's going to go?

Oh yes, yes, I really like what the coalition is doing that they're not doing anything about anything.

They don't believe anything about anything.

Eighteen percent of eighteen to thirty four year olds.

What are they offering to young people?

Nothing?

What are they offering on housing?

Nothing?

What are they offering on migration?

Nothing?

Nothing, nothing, nothing.

Yeah, but I think the problem is you can't start offering minute policies until you work through the bigger philosophical divisions that are ripping the party apart.

So I don't think the values have changed.

Well, but like you.

Need people to kind of gilities.

Small government, less regulation, these things haven't changed.

I mean we've got Andrew Hasty now basically calling to bring back a nationalized carmaking industry.

I mean, I'm all.

For more industry and smelting, you know, having smelled and different concrete industries in this country.

I don't think we're getting a car industry back now.

But I think he's pointing out what we lost in the national.

Capacity for a few of these eighteen to thirty four's were born, they don't even remember it.

It doesn't mean we shouldn't.

Look at Yeah, and the same people slamming him for that are the same people that want us to spend billions of dollars subsidizing renewables, and I.

Don't agree with their minor.

I don't think that's good either.

The one thing I will say though, that the Labor Party is not completely stupid on how big that election victory was because the Labor President waste one of course.

Who remember former Treasurer did say our victory this year was wide but shallow, and a small drop in our primary vote in a national election could see the loss of a large number of seats.

It's worth remembering in twenty twenty two he recorded the lowest primary vote since nineteen thirty four.

So, yes, the primary is low for the coalition now, but the primaries are low for major part is in general, and if that continues then they're both going to be in a lot of travel long term.

After the break, we'll get into the paper's extraordinary story on the front of the courier mail about you've got to pay, apparently at one childcare center if you want to take home your kids' artwork, huge amount of money.

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Bradio, let's get into the papers.

Cracker tomorrow, Holly on the front of the courier.

Mate, and look, I think they've gone to the more extreme end.

But I do in some way understand.

But there is a childcare center that is charging parents in this where it's too up to twenty two hundred dollars for their children's artworks.

Now, for those of us that have children, I still have.

Beautiful framed pictures of my kids drew as mum that were always sent home as part of the mother's day activities that the kids took place in And I must admit it from when I was certainly at school and you know, Mum would pull out the bit of butcher paper at the bottom of the school bag.

It's now a much higher quality that they do with the art and they put them into the books and the leave them as the real keepsake for the kids.

But get twenty two hundred bucks to take your kid's art work home, I think he's a bit rich.

I mean, I loved the tea towels.

Our kids used to do a picture of themselves and we'd get a tea towel, and unfortunately mine all that it's all faded, and I nearly want to ring our preschool to get it.

But yeah, twenty two hundred bucks for kids' artwork.

Probabs not But this is just extreme.

The article says that the child care center called the police on a mother who took her child's art work home and they reported it as a break and enter.

I mean, what in the contract for this child gas center said anything your child produces is the property of the child.

I think the child I'd be right exactly, child has I pay rights on that finger painting.

It sounds like some employment of contexts I've read.

I like, what the hell twenty two hundred dollars if you think I mean, look, if the child cares seem to said we're going to pay market you've got to pay market value for it fair enough, because it'll be about fifty cents.

Then the child be paying parents to take When there's little calebs running around doing finger painting, they will be priceless too.

Well, they're priceless to you, but they don't have any market value, is all I'm saying.

If the childcare seem to reckons, they can go and hop one of these things down at the local art shop or the auctioneer or whatever.

For twenty two hundred dollars go for your life.

Well, give it a go, try and sell them, and let's see what.

I mean looking at some of those artworks.

That's kind of the stuff the Museum of Contemporary Art pits up all the time, and probably more sophisticated as well, so they might actually have a case there.

But in the Daily Telegraph tomorrow the headline is hip hip Hamas Opposition leader Susan Lee has written to US Republican politicians to reassure them the Albanesi government's controversial recognition of the state of Palestine does not enjoy bipartisan support.

As Terra Group Hamas celebrated the move as a victory.

Australia joined the UK, Canada and Portugal informally recognizing a Palestinian state shortly after Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi arrived in New York ahead of the United Nations General Assembly.

Senior Hamas official Mahmod Mador labeled the moves as a victory, seeing these developments represent the justice of our cause and send the clear message no matter how far the occupation goes in its crimes, it will never be able to erase our national rights that you just love Hammas praising you while the US criticizes you.

You must be on the wrong side of history.

But I do commend Susan on writing to the Republicans.

That's a good moveaps, and there's.

Probably real potential here to form some kind of a relationship given our national relationship is in tatters.

Clearly they don't want anything to do with Albo.

This could give Susan a good edge.

Yeah, well, I thought it was interesting today Albanezi made the comment with regards to Netanyahu's commentary, not all Israelis agree with Benjamin nettin Niahu.

Well, here's a tip elbow.

Not all Australians agree with you, And I think their willingness to recognize a Palestinian state that doesn't even exist to reward Hamas for terrorist activities, I would suggest a lot of Australians don't agree with that.

Well, there was a poll in the SMH recently that wasn't a total number who disagree, but it was something like nearly half of people said they didn't agree, and there was another twenty five percent that said like it wouldn't change anything.

So essentially seventy five percent of the country doesn't really see any value at all in doing this.

I think that probably answers it.

But you know, when you have to send your position leader into try and pop up mess for goodness, it's an embarrassment.

Also in the Daily Telegraph tomorrow, super net zero insult.

This is an exclusive by our friend James Willis, who was on the Late Debate with us last week.

A sixty two billion dollar government pension scheme is bankrolling net zero projects in their bruising battle against farmers in regional Australia.

The Commonwealth Superannuation Corporation's investment has angered operators of a veteran's charity, who say it will undermine their work.

I mean, that's pretty bad for your own government pension scheme to be funding the battle against our states farmers.

That's just wrong kind of makes it.

I'm not unsurprised.

It's a typical open you're around that.

You're the federal government and you've got your hands on all this money and you can invest it in projects that you want to invest in.

Why wouldn't you do it?

Well, they're right now.

It's all their pet projects and as long as they're paying for net zero destroying agriculture and rule and regional communities to appeace their inner city woke lefties.

Well, that's what they're going to do.

And that's basically what they want all the industry super funds to do as well.

On the front of The Australian Tomorrow, it says critical checks Optus ignored.

And this is, of course, so one of the big stories that's been floating around since the weekend.

Optics failed to follow a basic list of checks that other telcos perform, including dialing triple zero themselves during routine upgrades to ensure Australians can continue to call emergency services, sparking a fatal outage comes as Optus's owner, Singtel has dispatched its chief technical officer, George Fernandez to Australia to help steer the telco through its network crisis and determine what triggered the meltdown, which has been linked to three deaths.

Where do you begin, like basic things like dialing the number.

They didn't even do that.

Look, it's just extraordinary and I think, you know, I've been really thinking about.

This, you know, and how it could get to it.

The internetal call centers are obviously played a role because a number of the phone calls have gone through to international call centers.

But you know, in America you do on nine one one.

I think it's triple one.

In the UK we have triple zero.

So there are different numbers around the world Triple nine anyway, but.

You know what I'm saying, there's different.

Numbers around the world, so wherever their call center is, they might not have the same correlation that we have with triple zero.

So you know, there's so many shortfalls here that need to be looked at to make sure that something's so horrific is never allowed to happen again.

And also you might save money offshoring call centers to the Philippines or somewhere in Asia.

But is it worth it if that call center was on Australian soil, would this have happened?

I mean that's a question we won't know the answer to, but you should be thinking about that if you're a business.

Absolutely well.

On the Herald Sun tomorrow we have which many many of us would know here it's just a little brief little teaser at Sutton.

Many rules not necessary.

Well yeah, how late are we now?

What's the time slot?

Sherlock?

But yeah, I think we know that.

So I actually went back and thought, you know what, I saw this, I'm gonna have a look.

What were some of the really crazy restrictions in Victoria.

And you know, the five kilometer radius, which was even rularious.

So even if your local fouge market was more than five k's away, well you're done.

You can't go.

The nightly curfew that was heavily policed by patrol, the exercise restrictions, but that included playgrounds being closed.

Only one person was allowed to go to the supermarket per day for essential so god forbid, you've got something.

I think.

What was my favorite though, the masks.

The masks everywhere and the fact that you couldn't take your mask off to drink alcohol lives outside.

So if anyone can ever explain the logic behind that, but you know what, we need to rememb for poor Victorians.

These were legally enforceable.

They had police patrols out and they had absolute prosecutions and fines that went along with these ridiculous restrictions that were put in place.

Indeed, and my little bit of civil disobedience when I used to walk home in Melbourne from the office was to have a beer with my mask off and g it filled.

After the break, we have found the dope beers over the day he got out of the cells, he stole a cob car.

Wait until you find out where he left the cop cars after this radio it is our latest entry into the day and this chap it's all alleged.

I should preface this with but Dwan in Wala in South Australia, he gets released from the police cells overnight and then promptly goes and avails himself of a police vehicle.

Yes see, he basically walks straight out of the cells and into a police car and drives off with it and allegedly made You can see the image there of a guy hanging out of a police car.

It's a ledge by the way.

He gets seven kilometers down the road in the police car before he finally jumps out and leaves it.

And have a guess he left it at a service station.

And South Poles will know what I'm talking about.

He left it at a service station.

Called on the run.

So here's a guy who allegedly gets out of the police steals a police car and then leaves it as a servo called on the run.

Now two things, One like, how dumb can you be to just be released and then steal a police car allegedly, but then to leave it at a place called on the run.

It's almost like he said, catch me.

But it's an electronic vehicle as well, So the irony is whether they had electric vehicle stations there.

Apparently the young police officer says that left it weren't aware that they.

Had left this vehicle running because there was no noise coming from the engine.

And I have a feeling those two junior police officers may never leave this down.

Yes, in the good Australian spirit, but look, I'm not someone who's actually ever been on a cruise and I've got to say I'm less and less inclined to ever think that they're a good idea.

Only recently we've seen out of the US, but a.

Cruise ship has had to return to port because.

Before it had even really got out of the bay, a number of people had started to get into a fistfight frakka, So the captain just turned the ship around.

I feel like that's the really advanced way of your father in the car when you were on the road trip holiday going.

If few kids don't shut up or turn the car around.

And the captains come out and said, if you don't get you get it together, we'll turn the ship around.

But they've turned the ship and they've off boarded around a dozen passengers who'ved arrested.

I mean, you've got to wonder, why what do you people do on these things?

Well, on the lakes of it.

A couple of weeks ago we covered the story of a fight that broke out over chicken nuggets.

But there's another issue with cruises, which is that they can lose power and then everything ceases to function.

This is a movie that Netflix is put out.

I think it's Netflix about the poop cruise.

Everyone's out for themselves.

You could hear the panic.

We were starting to smell urine.

Oh my god.

It was terrifying.

We had camera people cruise on boats, a helicopter up in the air, Fie broke out of the ship is on fire.

What the is happening on this cruise ship?

That's like Lord of the Flies, but cruise ship edition truly terrifying.

But if you're in gen Z or you know any young people, you should ask them about mucha.

It is the trend that is taking over everywhere.

It's this green powder, basically a tea, and it's replacing coffee everywhere, and people are mad, people are angry.

A German barista put this on his cafe.

No much a drink is permitted.

He is standing up for coffee beans and I love it.

Well, at least I can go there because I don't drink it.

Thank you for joining us.

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