Late Welcome to the Late Base.

Well, it's great to have your company.

I'm James Macpherson with Freelitch and Caleb Bond.

Coming up tonight seven to eleven open a new store in the Melbourne CBD.

Except this one operates without any staff at all.

Is this the way of the future.

The winner of the World's Strongest Woman contest is stripped of the title after being found to be a man who was identifying as a very strong woman, and politicians in Pennsylvania parcel law making hairstyles a protected attribute that can't be discriminated against.

We'll get to all of that shortly, but before we start the program, we've got to begin by congratulating Paul Murray on fifteen years of broadcasting at Sky and Caleb.

I found it pretty hard to prepare for.

Tonight because I kept wanting to watch the tribute show that was aired right before we came on.

Wasn't it lovely?

And isn't it great to see Paul get a little bit of emotional as well, you know, the hard exterior of the man.

We managed to break it.

But I remember I often talk about how was a kid I listened to a lot of radio, but I remember when I sort of started taking interest in TV and Paul Murray at that time was one of the only opinion programs on Sky.

And I was watching Paul all the way back then, and I get to work with him now.

How special is that?

He's just so incredible.

When I first started appearing on Sky, Paul was one of the first shows I went on, and I still remember how nervous I felt stepping into the man cave, and he's this big, intimidating presence.

But once you get to know him as he saw in that program, he's truly one of the most genuine and kind people out there.

Yeah, that'd be my reflection as well.

Paul is as he appears on screen.

He's got a huge heart.

And I remember our very first show on the Late Debate.

We're all brand new and green, and right before we came on air, we're all nervous.

Paul said, look, just relax, you'll be fine.

You've got three thousand shows to go after this one.

And Paul is always the first person to tell you've done a great job, to say, I saw you on here last night.

You did really well.

He's incredibly generous and from all of us here on the late debate.

Paul, congratulations and we look forward to many more years working with you.

Hey, you sorry to interrupt.

You are missing the number one story about you and Paul Murray.

And Paul Murray introduced me to my fiance, so I got to thank Paul.

I will always be in his debt for that.

Absolutely.

All right, let's get into the program.

A Perth counselor has apologized after trying to bill rate payers for a beer, but he accidentally downed in a strip club.

As public servants so often do, he discovered his mistake only when someone else was paying Joondalip counselor Nigel Jones was in Adelaide for a conference when he couldn't sleep, a condition he cured by roaming the city in search of a bedtime beer.

He told six PR he simply walked into the first bar he saw.

I couldn't sleep, and I went out to a drinks keep my helpy sleep and went into the first bar two minutes from where I was, And if you google it you'll show that, and went in there, got a beer, and then a few monks later a girl walked out skimpley dress and I realized what's going on?

So I scored and went.

The bar was the Crazy Horse Review proudly advertised as one of Australia's best strip clubs.

In case the sign out front and the strip of pole inside didn't give it away.

Months later, Jones submitted his receipts for reimbursement, well the finance department.

Caleb had questions, lots and lots of questions.

I can imagine you've heard that the old joke, right A counselor walks into a bar and the stripper says, why the long?

Okay, sorry, we won't go any.

Further with that much, but I mean, for goodness sake, seriously, how do you accidentally walk into a strip club and then put the beer on the council credit card or try to get reimbursed for That's the bit that I don't get, Just like, okay, you've got on into the strip club then realized later it was a strip club.

Totally believable story, but then you've still decided to ask the council to reimburse you the money.

Like, mate, are you think you're thicker than zoo glass?

For heaven's sake, if you're trying to get away with that sort of stuff.

But it is not the first time we have seen this excuse used before.

In fact, maybe he just thought back nine years and stole this one.

If it comes along with here it is.

Ever have I ever been inside a strip club?

I have sometimes times we know Rudd was what were you you never once.

A time in the day.

Sometimes it was of course did you you know?

Took me four hours to realize.

Oh yeah, once I realized what it was.

He's pulled the Bill Shorten here and expects us to think that it's believable.

Come on, baddie, he hasn't pulled the Bill Shorten.

He's pulled the Kevin Rudd, who was caught red handed at a strip club back in two thousand and three, admitted to it and then still went on to win an election.

So this counselor from Perth rightly points out maybe he's actually destined for political greatness because he seems to be following in the footsteps of a former Australian Prime minister.

But I'm with you, Caleb.

I just don't understand how you don't realize you're about to enter a strip club.

Now I will say I have never been to a strip club.

But I assume that they're pretty loud and not the kind of place you would go if you were looking to wind down for bedtime.

I mean, look at that place.

The poll is usually a pretty good giveaway, exact, and.

Like you know, in his defense, he said that that particular part of Adelaide, which you would be familiar with Highley streets.

He said, the Highley Street is a sleazy place.

So it all just looks sort of you know the same.

So that was his exist At least he's not as bad as with your thought who was banned club, So you know, it could have been worse, believe it or not.

I like, come on, mate, I'm not bothered about the fact he went to a strip club.

You're well within your rights to do so.

But the fact that you then thought you could get away with asking the council to reimburse you the beer for accidentally walking into a strip club, Like, do you.

Not have ten bucks in your pocket?

You know what I think he did?

I reckon because he was at a conference, right, and so he would have had many receipts from the three four days whatever it was there.

I reckon he's just put all of his receipts together, his handed them in and it's months later he's gone, ah, and so I reckon, that's how it must have happened.

Well, poor Feller, he's been caught out.

Now, let's hope that he doesn't accidentally walk into a strip club ever again, you know with lots of accidents are done in this world, and well he is one of the great accident makers, isn't he.

While we're talking about council's, Blacktown Council in Sydney has joined up with another city overseas as a sister city.

And this stuff goes on all the time.

Councils they come up with these sister city rangements have never quite understood what they actually mean or what you really get out of them.

And they talk about all this business.

You know, we talk about trade, we compare things, and how do you do things?

And can we do things like you and all this sort of business, and they really love doing it at Blacktown Council, to the point where they now have six sister cities.

They've just added one last.

Week in the Philippines, so they now have sister cities in the Philippines, in China, in South Korea, in New Zealand, in Ireland and even one in New South Wales Liverpool Plains Shire Council.

But because none of this comes for free.

You know, when you've got a sister city, I mean you've got a sister you've got to go and visitor, don't you.

So of course it means spending rate payers money to go overseas.

What a terrible life it must be for the mayor and all these other people who have to go overseas.

In the case of this new mob in the Philippines, who they've signed themselves up with, they put aside twenty five grand to send the mayor, the chief executive, the events and sister Cities manager.

I suppose when you've got six sister cities, you need a sister cities manager, two youth ambassadors and a community representative.

They're all going off to the Philippines next year.

What a great deal.

And then of course the mob are going to come over from the Philippines, so they've got to put another ten grand aside for that to host them.

So in the end it cost them thirty five thousand dollars to be a sister city to the Philippines.

Meanwhile, they've already been spending forty three cars in the last two years to do these various visits to their sister cities.

I'm sure they've learned a lot along the way.

And meanwhile, the RAE payers of Blacktown are expected to punt up more.

They've increased the minimum household rate to one hundred and seventy bucks per annum.

If there's someone out there paying one hundred and seventy dollars per anum on their council rates, I'd like to meet them.

But anyway, they've made that the minimum rate, and if you're a business, they're jacking up your rates.

They want to jack up your rates next financial year by fifteen percent.

No wonder when they've got six sister cities and they have to go and visit them every years.

It's like they're auditioning for the amazing race local government addition, you know, and that they say the benefits are cultural understanding.

I'm not sure why you need to understand Filipino culture, or Chinese culture or Irish culture to fill potholes, mow grass and collect gubbage.

They say it will also inspire urban planning.

I've been to the Philippines.

I've got many Filipino friends.

Great place to visit, but I'm not sure that people of Blacktown would be hoping that their local councilors learn from the urban planning done in the Philippines.

And as for economic benefits, they never provide anydents of said economic benefits.

The thing that got me frail was that, in relation to the council rates rises that you talked about, Caleb, the mayor, bread Bunting explained that, yes, we're having to put rates up, but please be assured, the council is looking to save funds.

Wherever we can.

Meanwhile, they add another sister city to the five they already have.

If anyone could provide any evidence or any explanation of what these sister cities actually provide in terms of benefit, I'd be very interested to see it.

I think the only benefit they provide is a free ratepayer funded trip to the council executives and the mayor, and that's really all this is.

It's just an excuse to get a free junket for local government officials.

But also you've got to have some sympathy for the Filipinos, because clearly they're going to spend a lot of their money sending all these people their delegation of six out to Australia.

Think, oh, we're going to a major city council in Sydney, We're going to see opera House, We're going to see Harbor Bridge.

How inspiring is that urban planning?

And then they rock up and they're in Blacktown, So you also have to feel a little bit bad for the Filipinos Blacktown.

There are some nice spots, but it is not exactly the emblem of the best of what Australia has to offer in terms of urban planning.

That's the bit that gets me though, is that you could sort of understand capital cities doing deals with other capital cities and whatever, and you know, reciprocal business arrangements.

But if you're a suburban council, what what are you getting apart from the trip?

What are you getting out of it?

I mean, unless they're hoping that some Filipino factory is going to come and sit up in black Town, I don't know, but.

It seems like an old thing for a suburban council.

And if you're looking to learn and to exchange ideas, you'd find a local government in Australia that's of a similar size, maybe a similar demographic, maybe in.

A different state.

Surely you'd have more in common, more to learn than traveling halfway around the world.

Yeah, it's pretty bizarre.

But let's go to Melbourne now, where bizarre is what we're saying on a regular basis coming out of that city or nam, I should say, Seven eleven has just opened a new store without any cashiers or stuff what soever, and this is to reduce crime.

They've been experiencing a lot of theft, so they've decided to go, let's ditch the staff full stop, and we'll just replace it all with vending machines, so you never have to come into contact with any humans, and I guess it makes things a lot more difficult to steal.

Have a look, everything's automated.

It's actually just big vending machines.

There's no hot food, no coffees, literally just your snacks and drinks.

So it's kind of like a vending machine has eaten up your traditional seven eleven.

You don't grab things off the shelf anymore, just pick from the touchpad, tap your card and wait.

For the snack to be delivered.

It's pretty standard vending machines.

Be holist so there's literally no staff here.

There's no hell, no weekend jobs for new students, just the vening machines quietly judging me purchasing five packs of chocolate Coda Prenzels.

It's pretty dystopian and I don't know if you could hear, but in the background they had classical music blasting to further disincentivize crime and rough sleepers from sleeping in the seven eleven.

But if that is what Victoria has come to, it's too dangerous to have staff in stores.

The risk of having food out in the open is too high.

So we're just going to replace the entire thing with vending machines and become this soulless, robotic, dystopian city.

How sad is that?

Yeah, I don't like it at all.

Though with the Melbourne CBD being the way it is, you can understand why operators might choose to have a store like that where they don't have to worry about staff safety and with the cost of labor, well, they're saving a lot of money there too.

This isn't unusual in the United States, though in Los Angeles they've got they call them ven hubs.

There's at least four in LA where you can buy everything from cap food to soft drinks to band aids, and.

That's dinner and the whole things sort of.

The whole store is there, and they've got robot arms that you order on an app and the robots go get your merchandise, drop it into a bucket, you scan it, the bucket opens up, you take your stuff, and these that are popping up all over LA.

So I think we'll see more of.

This in Australia.

I mean, maybe if seven to eleven played classical music in all of its stores, ad frequent the joint more often.

But this is just awful.

I think it is absolutely awful.

I understand if your staff are being threatened and there are big crime problems that perhaps imperative to do something like this, release trial it and see how it goes.

But of course once they do one of them and they realize the money they can save on staff, then you go, geez, well, why.

Don't I do that over there?

And why don't I do that over there?

And then everyone else cottons onto it, and next thing it becomes the big thing and everyone's doing and we already live in.

A world where, despite the fact.

We are more connected than ever Via the Internet, we're more disconnected to our fellow human beings than we have ever been in from a personal standpoint, people don't talk to their neighbors anymore.

Many people don't even know who their neighbors are, never have spoken to them.

They have very little social interaction during the day, particularly.

If they work from home.

Maybe if we've got a partner who comes home at night, they're lucky.

And apart from that, you know that the most social interaction someone gets is going out to buy coffee and they meet the barista.

Well, of course, you.

Know, you can get your coffee in seven eleven, and seven eleven has a machine that does the coffee, So soon enough it'll be the one stop shop where you don't have to interact with people anymore.

You can auder your.

Groceries online, have them delivered to your door, and you don't have to open your door and look at another human being.

We are engineering a world in which we don't have to interact with other people, which maybe sounds nice on the surface because you go, oh, well, that means less hassle.

But we're built to be social creatures, and at some point we're going to have to realize that all of this stuff doesn't work.

They've realized it to some degree with supermarkets in the US where they've actually started pulling out in some shops the self service checkouts because they've realized that theft went through the roof, it didn't improve waiting in line times or anything like that.

So there are a lot of supermarkets in the US have gone back to the traditional manned checkout, and I think people like it.

They want to interact with other people.

We're stripping all of this away.

I think it's making as sick as a society.

Yeah, I reckon.

You're absolutely right, all right.

You would have heard the phrase oftentimes life imitates art.

So for this next story, why don't we start with the art.

Here's an episode of south Park from a number of years ago.

Now, this is the first year that a trans woman is in the competition.

How do you feel about that?

Amazing?

I feel honored to be a part of history.

I have a lot of incredible trans friends who are athletes, and so we're all inspired.

This woman's competing.

Chiswanson, How does it feel to be competing today?

They can't tell you how free I feel now that I've started identifying as a woman.

Now that I can compete.

As female, I'm ready to smash the other girls.

And is it correct you just started identifying as female two weeks ago.

I'm not here to talk about my transition.

I'm here to kick some fin ass.

So that's the arts.

But in real life, just the other day in the United States, the Strongest Woman in the World was stripped of the title after being revealed to be a very strong man identifying as a strong woman.

American Jamie Brooker was stripped of the title.

Organizers say they had no idea Jamie Brooker was a male, although if you look at the winner's podium after Brooker was awarded Strongest Woman of the Year, well it seemed like other competitors had a fair idea.

So the runner up, Andrea Thompson of Great Britain, was awarded the title because she was not only strong, but actually a woman.

This all came out because in twenty seventeen, there was a YouTube video uploaded to Jamie Brooker's YouTube channel where Jamie Brooker talked about being a transgender woman, and as.

A result of that, as I said, the title was stripped.

The interesting thing to me is the headline.

In the way this was reported.

The UK Telegraph headline said world's Strongest Woman disqualified because they were born male.

Well they would be he, and born male means you're a man.

So even when the media report this, they they write the headline with other myths on and wrap the truth in bubble wrap just in case anybody is offended.

So the rightful person was awarded the title in the end.

But I think as a culture we've still.

Got a long way to go when it comes to just being able to admit the truth about who is male and who is female.

And the rules, the terms and conditions of the competition were that if you want to compete, you have to compete as your biological sex, and so this individual Booker took no notice of that and did not declare his biological sex and instead decided to compete against real women, knowing full well that that would put him at an advantage.

What sort of a mung rule do you have to be to say, look, i'm transgender whatever, but I'm now going to use that to disadvantage other people.

You'll be transgender whatever.

What you do in your private time is none of my business.

When you then say Okay, I'm going to take that and I'm going to use it to the detriment of someone who was born a woman or people who are born as women, real women.

That's when you cross the line that is saying I actually don't care about womanhood.

You say I want to be a woman, but you don't care about womanhood.

If you then take that and say, well, I'm just stuff everyone else.

If I can use all this testosterone and whatever that cores through my body when I was going through puberty, which means I have greater muscle mass, etc.

To go and win a competition that rightfully belongs to women, you ain't part of the womanhood.

And here was like physically a lot larger than the other competitors.

And can you imagine you're one of the other women.

You've trained for years, five days a week, lifting heavy weights, put your heart and soul into this sport, just for some biological male to come out of nowhere and win the title.

And this is what's so unfair.

Three time World's Strongest Woman champion spoke out and just said, I'm not anti trans.

You can compete in your own category, or better yet, the sex you're assigned with at birth, but don't come into the women's category.

And this is the thing.

There seems to be a complete lack of willingness to take responsibility on the part of these transgender competitors.

Just because your trans doesn't mean you're a victim or you have a free pass to not accept responsibility.

They couldn't contact this person, Jammy Booker after the event.

They just went completely silent, and they would have known with all the press happening right now about saving women's sport.

I refuse to believe that this biological male didn't know exactly what he was doing when he entered into this female competition, and he should be held accountable for that.

To give you an idea of the advantage that a male would have over a female in that competition.

For example, the world record for the squat is for a male four hundred and seventy seven kilograms, for a woman two hundred and seventy eight kilograms, so almost twice that of a man compared.

To a woman.

So Jamie Brooker had a huge advantage won the competition, but now the award has.

Gone to the rightful winner, who was actually a female.

And it's provable in every sport too.

I mean, you know, like every swimming record over the same distance, the male one is faster than the female.

It is just a fact.

No one can with a straight face say that biological men are not at an advantage to biological women when they compete together in sport.

It is just absolutely true.

And if you are a man and you say I'm going to compete against women and dud them, I'm sorry, that's it.

You are just a reprehensible human.

The real story here, though, is if you want to know where culture is going, don't listen to politicians they say, oh, this would never happen, et cetera, etc.

What's south funk exactly?

I'll tell you what's going to happen.

It's a bit like The Simpsons.

If you watch The Simpsons.

Ten years earlier, it sort of predicts what's going to happen ten years.

I think they predicted Donald Trump becoming president.

It was all in the Simpsons.

The Simpsons tells the future.

Hey, so we've talked about some of the madness in the US and women losing their rights over there.

Let's talk about more people losing their rights this time in the UK, the criminally accused.

It looks like will lose one of the most basic legal rights next year because the Starma government and their Justice Secretary, David Lammy, it's come out an eleak document in the Telegraph, are investigating scrapping jury trials for most defendants.

That the only people that would be left who would be able to have a jury trial are those accused of murder, rape, manslaughter or other serious offenses that carry sentences of more than five years.

Anything that has a sentence fewer than five years, you do not get the option of a jury trial.

And of course this came out in these documents in the Telegraph because they've got a huge backlock of court cases in the UK at the moment, eighty thousand in the last quarter alone, eighty thousand cases just sitting on the books in three months.

And mister Lammy himself, the Justice Secretary not that long ago, said that jury trials were a fundamental part of our democratic settlement and he was correct when he said that this is a very old legal principle, particularly in England, go all the way back to when the Vikings were ruling there.

They were doing twelve man juries.

Henry the Second in the twelfth century set up twelve man juries, a jury of your peers to deal.

With land disagreements.

And then, of course the Magna Carta, which is the basis of our entire legal system in much of the British Empire and all of its offshoots, written in twelve fifteen, eight hundred and ten years ago, set out that a jury trial was a right.

I will quote directly from the Magnakata, no free man shall be seized or imprisoned.

This is the translation of I should say, will be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or positions, or outlaw, or exiled, or deprived of his standing.

And yet in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of.

His equals or by the law.

And it is widely understood that that means you have the right to a jury trial.

But now in the.

UK they said, we'll just tear all of that up.

We will take away your right.

To a jury trial.

This is this is a fundamental principle of common law that you can choose that you have a jury of your peers or a judge.

If you take that choice away, they might say, oh, well, it doesn't matter that a judge is a more eminently qualified jurist anyway, they better know what they're doing.

But that's not the point.

This has always been a right that you have to choose, and they're going to take it away.

The Starma government will just eradicate eight hundred years of tradition and of rights and just do away with it in the stroke of a pen because they don't want to invest the money it would take to have the court system operate effectively.

Caleb mentioned that back during COVID, David Lammi wrote a column in The Telegraph saying that a jury was part of the democratic foundation of the UK and was vitally important.

And he said in that article that all the research says you get fairer results in court cases when there is a jury.

He also argued that if you start suspending trials by jury, they will never return.

And third he argued that if there's a problem with jury trials, then the government of the day needs to spend more money on the court system and on.

A point judges to hear those cases.

That was when he was in opposition.

Now he's in government, he's got to spend the money, he's just going to do away with jury cases.

The thing that concerns me about this prayer is there are so many examples of where the judiciary has become politicized.

Who would want a trial in front of a judge these days?

You would much prefer your chances in front of twelve randoms than a left wing, progressive judge who already has certain leanings depending on the nature of the issue.

And then you look at the way the UK is going in terms of freedom of speech and all.

Of those other issues.

Increasingly you're creeping towards what some might call a police state.

But even the way that this decision was framed sort of speaks to the progressive nature and the politicization of the judiciary.

They frame us around victim's justice.

Well, jury trials have to be restricted because victims are waiting too long to get their justice, but hang on as second, a victim's right to a speedy decision or resolution in the court does not trump the accused right that has been enshrined in common law precedent for eight hundred years does not trump their right to choose to have a jury trial.

And so even the very equation balancing or preferring a victim's rights ahead of the right of the accused to a fair trial and a fair process speaks to how left wing and woke so much of the legal system has unfortunately become.

But let's move over to the US now, where woke is being entried in law.

But this time people are being given more rights, if you could call this that.

The Governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, has just enacted the Crown Act, which will make it illegal to discriminate against people on the basis of their hair, their hair style, their hair texture, how they're wearing it, have a look.

For too long, a myopic notion of professionalism and eurocentric standards of beauty have perpetuated racial inequity and exclusion.

Too many Black.

Children have been suspended and missed what should be valuable instruction time because their hair worn in ways that are aligned with their racial identity have been deemed a violation of school rules.

This is so strange.

So the argument that they're making here is that black people presumably have a different texture hair and they're being discriminated against when there are rules around how you should wear your hair.

But that's just ridiculous.

Because my natural hair texture when I wake up in the morning is a complete mess full of notts.

No one wants to see me looking like that.

But I don't have a right to come on air every night and demand that you all look at me and enjoy my messy hair because that is my natural texture.

No, it's called standards, and I get it is harder for people with very curly texted hair.

But still, if there is a standard, if your hair needs to be neat and tidy, it needs to be neat and tidy.

This is just such overreach.

I have some experience with this, granted not my own hair, but having two adopted African boys.

I remember when they were at school and during the holidays they've got dreadlocks and they looked super gangster, and of course they went to school after the holidays and first day back were told cut your hair.

And I remember two very disappointed boys.

Saying, but Dad, we're African.

I said, it doesn't matter what you are.

What matters is the school rules.

And now you don't have to get rid of your African hair.

You just have to make sure it doesn't go past your collar, whatever sort of care it is.

And so I think This law is ridiculous, and surely the State of Pennsylvania have got bigger things to worry about than people are being discriminated against because they want to keep their hair.

The way that it is.

It's ridiculous.

By the way, does this apply to then Caucasian people who say mohawk.

Is part of my culture, or if you're.

An older person saying, well, purple hair is what older people generally do.

That's what I was wondering, because this has to be just virtue signaling.

In how many cases is this actually an issue?

Like do you walk?

I don't know, tell me if I'm wrong, But black people all over the US walking into employment interviews and being told that because your hair is naturally curly, you're not eligible for the job.

I highly doubt that is going on.

If it is going on, I'm sure it's in like minuscule numbers.

But they come up with this law and then they can grandstand and say how wonderful and virtuous they are for doing so.

But yes, I mean the same thing.

I mean, look, if my hair is thick as all buggery and if I don't do something with it, it is a total mess.

I can barely control the stuff.

So would it apply that I can just like ruffle it up and away we go, Like it would look like a bird's nest if I did that.

But that's the natural state of my hair.

So does that mean that's what I get to do.

I don't know if that's the standard you said.

I don't see why it wouldn't apply to everyone.

My own head is increasingly discriminating against my hair.

Oh to have those kinds of problems, all right.

Staying in the US, the University of Washington runs a particular course called the Diversity of Human Sexuality.

It's a very popular course, about twelve hundred students enrolled, and a guest speaker is causing a stir because the lecturer invited an Only Fan star to come and give a lecture on sexual economics, construction of online personas, and the psychological implication of digital spaces translated what It's like to be a porn star.

The Only Fans star, Ari Kistia is very well known, very popular on social media, and had the one two hundred students absolutely transfixed, not so much with stories about sexual economics and how it works, but more anecdotes about online requests that she'd received from punters and the challenges of creating an OnlyFans page that was going to make you thousands, perhaps millions of dollars.

Understandably, some parents and many critics have wondered, why are we spending a fortune to send our kids to a university where they have a porn star rock up to lecture them with stories that effectively make them think that this could be a glamorous lifestyle choice, and watching some of the footage after the lecture, there were students lined up to have their photograph taken with this particular woman.

The university, when asked for comments, said they defend the lecturer's right to academic freedom.

What do you think, Well, if you're taking a site course called the Diversity of Human Sexuality, if you're looking at the diversity of human sexuality and pornography is included in that, it's a real thing.

We can't get away from that.

It does exist.

Only fans has exploded in the last few years.

Surely, I don't think you can ignore the realities of things, and there's probably an imperative to then balance that with someone else who comes along and talks about it from the other side, as someone who perhaps used to do it and now says, well, I got out.

Of it because this is what happened to me, or whatever.

But I don't think you can ignore the realities of the fact that it's going on.

And if there is anywhere where the weirdest and the wackiest people should be able to speak, no matter what they believe, I think it's a universal.

Well, Firstly, if you're taking a course called the Diversity of Human Sexuality learning, how to say would you like fries with that?

Because people then will complain, oh, I can't get a job.

No, it's because you're taking ridiculous classes.

Why would you even pay money for that in the first place.

That's my first problem.

Secondly, to call this a lecture is a dramatic overstatement.

This was more like a porn star sitting there giving her musings on how it feels to make millions of dollars while objectifying herself.

It wasn't academic, it wasn't substantive.

It was just anecdotal talking from someone whose job it is is to sexualize herself.

And then the problem is even the way this was framed some of the social media content they put out after the event, it really does glamorize it.

This chick she posts things like, you know, going into this bathroom to pay for my whole holiday because she's going into the bathroom to make pornographic content.

And that says to young women in particular, Oh, maybe I can do that too, No, you can't.

Only a tiny personage of these porn stars actually make it that much money.

Most people just end up getting exploited or they don't make much money at all.

So I just think, come on, have some standards and don't demand public funding for this crap.

Well, Frey would probably like to go get her to go and find God, and she may well be able to do so if she checks out the Billboard and iTunes charts, on which there is a song that's currently hit the top of the Christian and gospel album charts and it was made by you guested artificial intelligence.

Yes, I know, we've talked about a few of these recently.

Solomon Ray is the name of the artist in this case.

Is put out He I don't know, whatever, I don't know has put out an album gone to the top of the chart.

Is a taste from one of the songs, quite creatively called I Got Her Song.

Now I've got a.

God.

Let me now, I'm.

Who's listening to this rot?

Again?

I said it?

I think it was last week we were talking about another AI song.

What is wrong with people that they're sending this stuff to the top of the chart.

It's not real music, it's not real art.

It's someone sitting in you go be bep.

Here's some music that pretends to be I hate it.

Well.

It's cause huge controversy among Christians because they're like, can AI produce a song that glorifies God when it's not coming from a human heart, it's coming from a computer.

I just think, use whatever technology is available to promote your message.

Good on them.

Yeah no, but when you listen to that, I'm with Caleb.

It just doesn't feel right.

It doesn't feel right.

All right, We're going to go to a break.

When we come back, look at what's making headlines tomorrow, including the Liberals about to withdraw their support for the under sixteen social media band That more after this, welcome back to the program.

Before we get to the papers, breaking news from Hong Kong's Typo district, where there's a massive fire in an apartment building that houses around.

Four six hundred people is believed to be four dead at the moment.

A look at this, just extraordinary.

Footage, massive fire, no idea to this point how it started.

As I said, reports that four people have been confirmed dead.

If that is true and that's all, that would be an absolute miracle.

Yeah, it would be.

And it looks like it's engulfed the surrounding buildings as well, and they're about thirty stories tall.

So I mean, could you just imagine that?

And how do you even this is live pictures for you right now, how do you even evacuate that many people?

So I really hope and pray that people are safe.

Yeah.

I suspect it'll be a lot more than four people, unfortunately, but they are the early numbers we have.

I hope as many as possible have been saved, but I don't hold great hopes unfortunately.

Let's go to the front of the Australian tomorrow where it says LIB signal retreat on backing social media band.

Isn't this cuous Liberal leadership?

Aspert Melissa Macintosh has called into question the coalitions year long support, year's long support, I should say, for an under sixteen social media band, saying she is no longer convinced it will work, despite former Liberal leader Peter Dutton strongly supporting the ban.

In fact, I think he was one of the first to raise it.

The Opposition communication spokeswoman on Wednesday said she was not surprised the social media clampdown was to be challenged in court.

Who walked back in the reform came as out.

The Digital Freedom Project confirmed that proceedings had been filed in the High Court challenging the band.

What an extraordinary turnaround.

So when it really mattered, the Libs were all on board with it, and now when they think perhaps it's a bit wobbly, they're saying, oh, well, actually maybe it's not so good after all.

You could have worked that out a bit earlier.

That The most interesting part of this article to me the first few words liberal leadership aspirant, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

May not support the social media ban.

It's just a free for all.

It seems like where everybody is freelancing is is Melissa McIntosh freelancing here?

Or does Susan Lee also have major concerns about the social media band?

Well, it's interesting that point you just raised, because I think last night we were talking about a story where Melissa McIntosh had hosted drinks for forty of her colleagues.

What do you know that makes a lot of sense if she's a leadership aspirant.

Now, look, I think I also initially supported the social media ban for a long time.

But I think and I think the evidence is very clear that social media is extremely harmful to young people.

However, when you look at what Labour's doing with the E Safety Commissioner and the way they have turned what was supposed to be just a ban and then let the rest of the Internet rein free, they have just used this now instead as an excuse for just more and more regulation for everyone.

A social media ban would only work if you said no one under sixteen can be on social media, and the rest of it we're just going to leave alone.

Instead, they're going for a maximalist approach where they're going we're going to ban it for kids and we're going to restrict it for everyone else.

I can't support that.

I think people forget that it came along at exactly the same time as the Misinformation Disinformation Bill, and that was not a coincidence.

It was all meant to be wrapped up into one for very good reasons.

And Macintosh is the coalition's communications spoke woman, so she's not just saying this is a backbencher.

She is saying this is.

Someone who speaks for the Coalition on these matters.

Another story on the front of the euse tomorrow Labour's two hundred k hiring spree.

The size of the federal public service has jumped by twenty four point seven percent under the Albanezy government, almost two hundred thousand workers as departments eerge to identify low priority spending that can be cut.

Data released by the Australian Public Service Commission on Wednesday shows a thirteen thousand, six hundred and seventy one rise it's people, I'm assuming equivalent to seven point four percent in public service numbers in the past financial year and arise in the overall head count from one hundred and fifty nine thousand, one hundred and seventy nine in mid twenty twenty two to one hundred ninety eight thousand, five hundred and twenty nine at June thirty this year.

A thirty nine thousand, three hundred and fifty increase in three years.

Who would have thought labor bigger, public service blow me down.

The crazy part about that is not only have staffing numbers gone up, but consols have gone up as well, and also temporary personal services.

Spending on those people has gone through the roof as well, So it's just spend spend.

After all that, we're going to ditch the consultants, We're going to be sustainable with the budget, we're going to ditch labor higher and they're doing all the things they said they wouldn't.

What do you know?

In the Daily Telegraph tomorrow, the headline is it's a shocker runaway energy prices kill any hope of mortgage relief.

There is now no relief insight from the cost of living crisis, and interest rates might be even forced higher following shock inflation figures driven by soaring power prices.

Inflation grew by three point eight percent on the back of a thirty seven percent increase in electricity bills, and economists are demanding treasurer GYM charmers come up with a credible plan to lower power costs which are destroying family budgets.

I mean, we've been saying this, We've been saying this happened for years in fact.

We've been saying this, but Jim Chalmers said in March they were committed to finishing the fight against inflation, and in May he said inflation is coming down fast, faster than we ever thought.

Here we are now with inflation going up.

And remember that promise that power prices would come down.

They still maintain that they will, but they dare not say when because they don't know.

It gives you zero.

They've always known that it's a major driver of inflation.

That's why they had all those substances.

The only way inflation was coming down was when they subsidized all of our power bills.

And now those have come up.

It's back up again.

All right, Let's go.

To the front page of the Canberra Times.

Bullying Familiar Home, bullyings, Familiar Home reads the headline.

Home Affairs was once again rated by staff as having one of the worst levels of bullying in the government, despite an improvement from the year before.

The twoy twenty five State of the Service report shows the perception of bullying and harassment at the Department of Home Affairs fell from fifteen percent to twelve point seven percent, a decrease of more than two percentage points.

So this is the Home Affairs Department triumphing in the fact that only twelve point seven percent of the staff believe it is infected with a culture of.

Bullying and harassment.

When twelve percent of the staff think the culture is one of bullying and you think well that's a good result, you know you've got major problems it.

My advice would be, if you don't want to get bullied, have your affairs somewhere other than your home.

On the front of the Cans Post tomorrow, it says not a prank shop manager fine for trapped investigators.

A convenience store manager who trapped seven public health and police officers inside a city store as they investigated elicit tobacco sales has been fined eight thousand dollars.

William Wallace Lewis twenty one, you can see him.

There, pleaded guilty to deprivation of liberty.

Over the incident on June twenty four this year in Grafton Street, with the defense suggesting it was a prank.

I'm sure it was.

When he locked the doors and said you're not leaving this that was absolutely a power Come.

On, now, you think I want to play a prank?

Who should be prank today.

Yet the coppers sign a few police.

And prank them.

No, no one ever had that.

He's not going to get the Brainiac of the Year awards.

All right, we're going to go to a break.

When we come back, Trump.

Pardons turkey's a judge sits on the bench dressed as Elvis, and you will not believe our.

Dope of the day is coming up next to.

Well, it's Thanksgiving Day in the US tomorrow, and as per tradition, the US president pardons a couple of turkeys every year.

Donald Trump joked that he would also pardon last year's turkeys because, of course, when Joe Biden pardoned them, it was with an auto pen, so that pardon didn't count.

Before pardoning this year's turkeys, he made sure that their names were not Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, the Democrat politician.

So look, I was.

Going to call him Chuck in Ancy, but then I realized I wouldn't be pardoning them.

I would never pardon those two people.

I wouldn't pardon them.

I wouldn't care what Malania told me, Darling, I think it would be a nice thing to do, I won't do it, Darling, I love Trumpet.

Doesn't matter what he does, he always injects humor.

And then he was interrupted by a turkey.

Today we continue a time on an American tradition.

Well, that's a well trained turkey.

Brilliant trump always entertaining.

Can't take your eyes off in when he's behind the microphone.

If there's anywhere to find a few turkeys, it's politics.

I just want to know was it a three D printed turkey or not.

Three D printed chicken last night?

Anyway, let's get into our favorite segment.

Shall we.

Do day.

And today's entry.

I tell you what.

Look, we've all been caught short once or twice.

You're desperate to go to the louver, but look, take it from me, maybe don't do it in full view of people on the side of the road.

Brother, brother, what are you doing, guz, because what are you doing?

What are you doing?

What are you doing?

Guns?

What are you doing?

Para Hills in Adelaide, Yes, maybe find a toilet.

Oh and the fact that he had no idea what he was doing was wrong.

I mean, come on, that is so bad.

Well over in Missouri, a junte is facing a six month suspension because he thought to add some levity to what is otherwise a very solemn and intense process of court.

He would dress up in an Elvis costume and play Elvis Presley music from his iPhone during court proceedings.

As you can expect, the blowbag from the legal.

Profession was, rather, if you were a defendant, would that fill you with confidence or would you be nervous as hell?

I think it'd be great.

I think, wow, I'm going to get away with if I've got this blokeupy.

But you know what he said when he got fired.

Come on, Elvis has left the building very good.

Well, there you go.

That's all we've got time for tonight stick around.

Coming up right now is to read a penalty show.

Good night,