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NRL 360 - Adam's won a comp... Ben Hunt hasn't!" - Do the Broncos halves have legacies on the line? - 25/09/25

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Speaker 1

Three sixty Raby League from Every Angle, brought to you by Regain joining me again the.

Speaker 2

Great Pool Crawley.

Speaker 1

That's been the journeys in Brent Reed and Michael carry Ona's in our top story brought to you by the b by d Shark six Maage Bands TV crew from Training Crawls.

Speaker 3

Yeah, well match Love's playing mind games, doesn't he.

So he's up there today apparently, And yeah, he tried to turn it into state of Origin and told him they could get a little bit of vision at the start of the session, and there was a bit of a blow up, I imagine from the local media.

Speaker 2

It's a big deal.

I I don't mind this.

Speaker 4

I mean, imagine everything he's touching.

The moment's turn to gold.

So I've got no issue with him doing I'm sure I left the band next week and it'll.

Speaker 1

Be supporting, supporting being in the meeting now I think about it, I'm talking about I think.

Speaker 2

It's good there what he did it in origin.

Speaker 4

We're the conduits to the fans play.

Speaker 1

But it's I mean, it's it's it's one of their last sessions.

Speaker 2

Probably give all access to public ground is that public.

Speaker 5

It is not uncommon for us to be told you need to leave venues and stop recording and things like that.

But if it's an open ground like I remember like New South Wales trainer could you over Sometimes they kicked the media up, but you can stand on the street and watch.

Speaker 4

I think the issue was there that that club for ever in a day, ever since Wayne was there, it's always been open.

When Sieves was there, Kevy was there, it was open and Madge is closed it down this year.

They're not used to it.

Speaker 6

Do you think he would do it for a reason.

Speaker 3

Do you think that there's something he wants Ezra man or it's been all year.

Speaker 5

It's been a year that the shifting procedures.

As Ready said, it used to be an open door policy at Brisbane, but Madge is implemented the way most Sydney clubs operate.

So it's not something that's new this week.

The media bands knew, but not sort of locking media out of training sets.

Speaker 1

So it's not about pressure, it's not about you know, semi final week pre lim game.

Speaker 2

He's changed in paranoid, nothing like that.

Speaker 4

He does like circle in the wagon, so it doesn't he know a bit of a chip on the shoulder, But I can't imagine it broak them and they're going pretty good.

Maybe they were two weeks to pare for this game and.

Speaker 2

They do that begins right.

Speaker 1

Yeah, So you've got Reynolds and men, and you know they've got to shift there and keep positions, and you know, most coaches, I'd say the majority of clubs don't want to give too much away.

Speaker 2

Calls might be right.

Speaker 4

They want to keep some things under wraps.

Speaker 7

But yeah, because I'll probably play a bit differently from last time.

Speaker 5

Adam Reynolds was right because of the way ree Walsh has emerged, Ben Haunt back to six, and how they're going to use exactly Ezra off the bench all.

Speaker 2

Right now, Jared Haynes, Ben Barber, they got.

Speaker 1

On hot streaks throughout the season and we're seeing one right now.

Reecee Walsh.

Can he continue this hot streak like those two that I just mentioned and take this team all away?

Speaker 4

I got no doubt it, Ken Breath, no doubt at all.

I mean I said you have to be in the top four to win the comp.

They finished in the top four, so they're still alive in my rankings.

And the way he's playing, he wins games single so I said that, I've said that all year.

Speaker 7

Many are in the top one.

Speaker 2

Now he has the top four.

Speaker 4

Now the top four is done and dusted.

Speaker 7

Wee, there're the four remaining top side.

Speaker 2

So they're not the top four finished finals Melbourne and Sharks.

Sorry, that's got.

Speaker 4

But the way he's playing birth We saw him in Canberra two weeks I mean, he was unbelievable that twenty minutes to level that game in the second half.

Mick and I watch it again today and some of the things he can do.

He is a freak.

Speaker 3

It does remind you of Hayne two thousand and nine, the end of that season, and Barbara and what was that twenty twelve.

Speaker 6

The thing about both of them, they carried him to the Grand Final, but neither one.

But this is Haynes.

He was just he was so great that season.

He just cut him apart.

They I think they got beaten in the last.

Speaker 3

Round by the Dragons who were the minor premiers I think, and and then Paramatta beat him in the next game.

Speaker 1

What it does highlight you know, when you look at Barbara the run he was on, you look at Jared Haynes and the run he was on, and they just fell short.

Speaker 2

It does kind of highlight that.

Speaker 1

One player really can't carry you all the way to victory.

I'm sure it's happening in the past at some point, but it's very difficult for one guy to just get on a hot streak and just carry the team all the way to the Grand file against the best teams in the competition.

Speaker 5

I feel like, unlike some of these other sides, that Reese wash has players that aren't quite can't match him, but can almost get to it.

If Ezra runs hot, yeah right, Tony Staggs runs hot.

So I think that's the difference between Reece Walshon and the Bronco side compared to some of those others.

Speaker 7

And Jo Raine was a one man man.

Speaker 1

I'm not for a second saying that the Broncos are a one man of course, or that they just rely on him.

They're a much much more formidable team and have some X factor really all across the park.

So, but he has been brilliant.

Now could the game define the legacies of Adam Reynolds and Ben Hunt?

Speaker 3

I think I think again definitely, Like if you go through the individual careers here, so Adam Reynolds want a premiership as a twenty four year old twenty and fourteen.

But since then he lost twenty twenty one at South Sydney and he missed that vital goal near the end of the game that could have locked the scores.

And in twenty twenty three they were home for all money in that game and any way you look at it, Adam lost control of the game and Cleary grabbed hold of.

Speaker 6

It with Ben Hunt.

Speaker 3

The twenty fifteen Grand Final, it's arguably the greatest Grand Final of all time and.

Speaker 6

The memory you take out of it is Ben Hunt dropping the ball.

Speaker 2

I think everyone remembers this moment.

You've got to feel sorry for you do.

Speaker 3

And then seven seasons that the Dragons followed that, and in seven seasons he made the finals once in two thousand and eight, and then you go to this year and yes they won in Week one of the finals, but you know, he lands the match winning field goal.

Speaker 6

Prior to that, he had a pretty ordinary game.

In fact, I'd say it was almost a shocker.

Speaker 4

I think it's more important for Ben Hunt was as you point out, Crawls, Adams wonicmp Ben hasn't.

And I think that's the key, right.

I think you know Adam's not perhaps under as much pressure from a legacy perspective because of what he did at South the twenty and forty Premiership.

What it meant for that club was Ben doesn't have it yet and that's the Grand Final memory everyone's got of Ben Hunt.

So I think in terms terms of legacy, this game this week, next week means if they get there, means a lot more to Ben Hunt.

Speaker 3

Gordon's mentioned it previously though, in respect to Adam's two thousand and fourteen Grand Final went taking nothing away from the part he played in that, but at that time if his career, you had Sam Burgess, you had Greg English, you had John Sutton like they were the dominant forces in that team.

He's still ring here, he sure does, and you don't take that away.

But as a leader he was the skipper of Sous and he was the skipper of the Broncos, and as just in that respect, these two guys will go down as among the great halfbacks of their generations.

But the lasting legacy people look back at premierships.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I'd argue CRUs that Adam Reynolds needs to walk away with two premierships to go down as a grade of his generation and for mine, Ben Hunt's probably not there without a premiership, So I think you're right for both those players they need to walk away with the premiership ring for different reasons.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the Broncos no Patrick Carrigan suspended Billy Watters out with injury.

Have we overlooked or underestimated the losses of these two?

Not much has been spoken about it.

Speaker 4

I think Patty is a huge loss for him.

Patty Carrigan.

I think they named Tyson Smoothie at Locke.

I mean, you know, with due respect to Tyson Smoothie, he's not Pat Carrigan, and I think that's a huge out for Brisbane.

I think that's been a little bit overlooked and underestimated.

Billy's been playing great footy, but they've got Ezra Man and Ben haunterh can play where Billy was playing the six yeersey, so I think they've got covered for him.

But Pat Carrigan's a huge out for the Broncos.

Speaker 5

Yeah, obviously with Billy Waters as offset by the fact that there an Adam a back now, right, But you look at Pat Carrigan, well, the best comparison is probably in the opposite side.

If he's out for Penrith.

What are we talking about all week?

So I feel like it has totally been understated.

He's important to that site.

He's Lincoln man ability in the middle, the foil for paying halfs now, it's all on payin halfs the shoulders to control that middle.

He had a great support in Pat Carrigan over the last couple of weeks.

So I feel like we've really understated how much of it out he.

Speaker 2

Is all right.

The Panthers embraced the Samurai spirit.

We've seen this.

Speaker 4

Before, haven't we a couple of times?

Yeah, we had the top gun you undisputed, We've had a few over the years.

I love what they do.

We didn't normally find it out after the Grand Finals.

It's one of the things we do on Sunday night after the Grand Final, we go on the sheds and try and find out what their theme was for the year.

It is samurai, got no idea, It just it seems like it seems like it's working for him of late.

Speaker 7

Yeah, but it's really said.

Speaker 5

It's sort of like Nathan let the cat out of the bag a little bit, which is not what they usually do come Grand Final night.

Oh, it's an open sladder, they'll basically tell you everything.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 5

So they've downplayed it this week, but obvious see there is a hit of meaning there for the Penteple.

Speaker 4

Whatever it's student's working for that Blake.

Speaker 2

Always been a change in the culture at Pendri.

Speaker 1

Have they gone from a much maligned team to an admired one after the last few years.

Speaker 5

Well, I think the way they've had to win the comp this year, well sorry, to get to the situation where they're at has really given them some admirers, no doubt about that.

Speaker 7

The fact that you know they'll last.

Speaker 5

A lot of people wrote them off and they've done it the hard way this year, and there is a softening of sentiment out there.

Speaker 7

I think you're fine.

Speaker 5

I think the Warriors of Canberra were probably everyone side, for those that didn't have a team in the top eight.

But I think a lot of people are loving the fact that this is a rarefied air, something that we may never witness again.

Speaker 7

We're in the midst of greatness when it comes home.

Speaker 2

It helps.

Speaker 4

A couple of the spikier characters aren't there either.

On Steve Crichton's gone, but there was loads everyone loved to hate.

Speaker 3

Even in their early seasons though they were they were different persons.

You've got this stuff here, you know, there was the stuffing Joey Depine at Canberra.

They were in your face, they were out, they were abut to pick a war.

They wanted to back themselves to take on anyone.

But no question break over the years they have mellowed.

I think it's intentional.

Even last year when Jerome was still there, he came across as as a different person and.

Speaker 6

There was there seemed to be.

Speaker 2

Just a you know more.

I wouldn't say maybe they're just so used to winning now, but it's.

Speaker 6

Wanted to change.

Speaker 3

And maybe because I think it's definitely happened, there's there's definitely been a change in the way that they carried on.

Speaker 5

Have they just naturally matured as well given their age, perhaps the fact that a lot of them are fathmas and fathers now is as well.

I feel like they've just gone through that natural level of maturity that that happens itslf.

Speaker 6

But it's definitely got.

Speaker 3

To the stage where when you talk to people now, they they're almost gravity way heading towards the Panthers, like they've become a very light team, whereas three or four.

Speaker 6

Years ago they were very cross off the field.

Speaker 7

They were always highly right.

Speaker 5

They had this lair about them on the field, but it never trans and even Jerome and likes that you mentioned, they didn't carry that off the field, right, So it's always carried a.

Speaker 6

Grudge against you, did hen.

Speaker 4

Gronk?

Speaker 2

Was it only one or was there someone else you went out of anyway?

Speaker 1

Tony Stags has issued a warning to the Panthers fragile left side defense ahead of Sunday sun call blockbuster.

Speaker 8

Yeah, obviously, when I've been to girl for a while now and he knows, you know, what I need, and we know that they left edge struggles a little bit, you know, so our main focus is breaking them down and then hitting their edges.

You know, were trying to figure about that.

We've moved forward from that now and you know, we've not even been.

Speaker 2

Talked this week about what happened in the past.

We just thought about focus on ourself and the game.

Speaker 3

This and give you made your decision on where you're going to play rep football.

Speaker 8

No, I haven't at the moment.

I'm just sitting off that and I've spoke to both of the coaches.

Speaker 2

Wolf and Kevy.

Speaker 8

You know, I just told him, I just want to play this season out and play good footing with the Bronx and I'll have a thing after that.

Speaker 2

Bronco is the target Panthers left edge?

Are they vulnerable?

And I'll start this Katony Stags.

What a year he's had.

Speaker 1

He's so powerful and he's been the constant for the Broncos.

I think the most consistent player alongside with Paying Hass for the whole year.

Reece Wells, Yes, we know how great he's been.

That's been the last couple of months.

But for the whole year Katony Stags and it's been his damaging, robust runs and it's and is where they are vulnerable Penrith McLean TALANGI that they have on the weekend second half, you know, the Dogs expose them to a degree and they have been exposed a little bit throughout the season.

Speaker 2

Early on more so they got it right.

But again on the weekend we saw where we think.

Speaker 4

Are going to target lost but to someone after that game from the Bulldogs and they said we showed Brisbane how to beat We showed in the blueprint because those two blokes you mentioned, Tlangy McClain.

They've both been outstanding this season.

They have, Let's not take anyway from them, but they missed sixteen tackles between them last week, which is between I think it was ten and six, which is insane.

Speaker 2

Number six.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well that's all.

I read.

Speaker 7

A lot of dominated performance.

Speaker 4

Just because that's gonna be a bit of misleading.

Speaker 2

There was a lot because a lot because it's a big number.

I went back questioning you at all.

That was as well.

Speaker 4

But Jacob Preston and Lachlan Galvin tore them up down that edge last week.

So you know, you've got Katoni, who's one of the best tackle busting centers in the NRL.

If they don't go there, they're mad.

Speaker 6

He's a bet and he said he's been.

He's been in great form.

Speaker 3

That the one game all go and the Bulldogs did expose it was the one good thing to come out of the Bulldog's game last week is how they really read them out there.

The game I'll go back to with Casey McClean though, was against the Bulldogs when he marked up on Stephen Crichton that about ten weeks ago or whatever it was, and I remember there was there was so much focus and during that game, and at the end of that game, you could see the pride in Nathan Cleary where he went up to him and he pat him on the back and it was, like I thought at the time, it was McLean's coming of age moment.

Speaker 6

And so they have got it in him.

Of course he to fix the problem, but they definitely do need to fix the play.

Speaker 1

When you play a big game like this and you're looking at a team like the Panthers, you're looking for any deficiency at all, any possibility of trying to look for a chink in their armor, and that's probably it.

Speaker 2

You know, when that's the only one that it's glaringly.

Speaker 1

Obvious, and you know, this is what you look for, and this is what Brisbane and especially when you've got the weapon of stacks like send him there, send him there all day.

Speaker 5

And all that's going to rest on Scott thrensons shoulder as well, because he's that veteran on that side of.

Speaker 7

The fields six as well.

I think, are you just plucking all these numbers?

Speaker 2

Numbers?

Speaker 1

A few, I've got some good ones going all right now.

Speaker 2

The bit of rivalry nights on Friday nights.

Speaker 1

Some memorable moments in this long running feud between the Storm and the Sharks crawl.

Speaker 6

Hasn't there been some moments over the years.

Speaker 3

Mick mckenni's pattern, Cameron Smiff's head, the twenty sixteen Grand Final, Luke Lewis and Wade Graham how they used to almost.

Speaker 6

Kill Cooper Kronk out there.

There's yeah, there's been some moments.

Speaker 7

Why are you knocking Ben better Ross with the elbow there?

Speaker 5

And obviously you had Will Chambers in amongst that, a lot of him and Paul Gallon had some famous and slanging matches, inn't they so?

And then obviously the culminated in a Grand Final win with the Knolla Sharks.

Speaker 7

So yeah, it's been.

Speaker 5

It was one of the great rivalries in the game for a couple of seasons, wasn't it.

The intensity the sledge in the camp Smith got.

Speaker 1

So they do hate each other and the Sharks have been known as mister nice guys until the last few weeks.

They've got their backs up, the intensity they have, right, So this could get fire, could.

Speaker 4

Do They've got a bit of a chip on the should at the moment, don't they the Sharks, So they could do.

Braith and I don't know who's going to who'll create the fire and these two sides this weekend.

I'm not I'm not sure.

There's the Gallons of the world and the World Chambers the world.

That's a bit loose, that is true.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Nels.

Speaker 6

Stay with great discipline.

Speaker 3

That's been the key to their success, almost hasn't it.

Everyone does their jobs and they play with great discipline and then keeps them in the game.

I couldn't see it potentially going that way.

Speaker 2

I don't either.

Actually, the more we talking about camera this morning with some good news for storm Fir.

Speaker 9

Yeah, we'll see he gets through today.

But from what he's done the last couple of weeks, he'll be playing for sure.

As I said, you know, there'll be something have to go drastically on today.

Helm last year so and he's played in Grand Finance.

For him to come back in that's a big boost for all the players, but the club as well.

So yeah, Bo, hopefully he gets through today.

But we're pretty confident.

Speaker 2

Our love it Coat telling me they're saying hopefully he gets through today.

Speaker 1

I can tell you right now.

Jerome Hughes is playing this week.

There has been a lot of speculation rumors and you endo you asked me before the show because it is circular.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well it is, that's the media.

Speaker 1

But he is playing, he has been given the green light and he will definitely start for the Melbourne Storm.

Speaker 2

Do you think it's a good idea?

Speaker 6

Well, you don't know.

Speaker 3

All you know is that Jerome Hughes and Craig Bellamy have come to the conclusion that they're happy with it, that they feel it's a safe option.

I just keep going back to the fact that during the week Cooper Kronk said if he had played that Grand Final and that opposition had known that he had it broken scapula, they would have lost the game.

Speaker 6

That was his quote.

Speaker 3

And so that gives you an understanding of how much Jerome's going to be targeted.

And then if something does go wrong and your man Peasant's not there, it's tyrant wish out that has.

Speaker 2

To go out.

Speaker 6

And he's done it before, but it's a different it's different.

Speaker 2

Just have a look at the numbers quickly.

Speaker 1

Here Hugh's influence on the team since twenty twenty, He's winning ay seventy seven percent.

Without him, it's fifty four, so significant over twenty three percent.

But yeah, that's my concern too though, Cruels, is that you know, Jerome needs to play if he wants to play, and if he's fit, you know, and there's more chance for looking at the numbers and just watching him play the last few years, much better chance of winning the game with him on the field.

Speaker 2

If he does.

Speaker 1

You know, if he does get injured early, they're in some deep you know what they are because Wishare is probably the best forwardeen in the comp but he's not a seven and I fear that if he gets injured earlier, it could go pear shape.

So I pray for Melbourne then Jerome that he gets through the game, and even if he gets through the majority of it, they're a big chance of winning.

But if he doesn't and he goes down early, they're in some trouble.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean they're a smart club though, Breath.

We know that it was a calculator gamble, right.

And I spoke to the doctor last week he did the surgery on Jerome, and he.

Speaker 2

Said, because is it a broken a broken risk of four arms, a four a plate.

Speaker 4

He's got a plate and screws and that's only two and a half weeks ago.

Two and a half now three round just on three.

That just short of three weeks when starts.

That's not a long, that's a short.

It's a short couple.

But he said he said he used extra extra strong plates and screws, not the normal one, extra strong one.

But he was he seemed very confident that heb okay and did you get through the game?

And he was a doctor of performing surgery breaks.

Look, I mean, you know it's a risk.

We all know it's a risk.

But I think it's a risk they got to take when you see those stats.

Well, actually I take that back, because Jonas played so well, they probably don't need to take the risk.

But it doesn't prove their chance to win the footy game.

Because we've seen the stats, then we know what he means to that footy team.

Speaker 3

Well, they took a calculated risk in the game against the Broncos, didn't it.

Because he was coming back from a dissocated shoulder and he went out there and it was clear that his tackling technique wasn't the same and as a result, he gets a fractured alated risk can go wrong?

Speaker 6

What good?

Speaker 4

Or try and get him?

When you brought up the Cooper Kronk Grand Final me Melbourne tried to get it him all night, couldn't get it wh near Cooper Konk in the ground five.

Speaker 6

But that's what Kronk was saying, that they didn't know it was as bad as but.

Speaker 4

They knew he had needed and they couldn't get it in the cruel So you know, it's one thing to say that you know they're going to go after Jerime and test him out, but you've got to get there and you've got to make it happen.

You can't become preoccupied with it.

Speaker 1

I reckon the Sharks would fancy their chances now.

Meanwhile, Craig it's given won't be telling.

He's seen to tone things down after a noticeable shift in their attitude.

Speaker 10

The boys are just sticking up for themselves and they've got the confidence and belief and they're just backing themselves and sticking up for each other in the club, and I think it's great.

I don't know how much they are hearing or seeing or but it's clearly had an effect on some of them and the fact that they feel that ways great.

Speaker 4

Am I going to stop that?

Speaker 11

You get hardened by your heartache and we've had a bit in the Semis for the previous years, so now we've got a challenge on our hands, but we're excited for it, and the boys do believe that we are in a better position than we have been in Semis past.

Speaker 1

Fitzi loves the new hard nosed attitude from his men at the Sharks, and knowing Fitzy, that doesn't surprise him because he had that hard nose edged himself Crawls and there has been a shift.

There's been a significant shift in not only their performances but their attitude.

Speaker 3

You can say it clearly in nic O Hollens, you know, like he's walking around with it chip on his shoulder and having the angry pills.

Speaker 6

And sometimes you know.

Speaker 3

From the outside looking in, you think, what are you winging about?

What are you complaining about?

Who has disrespected you?

We've gone back over your records.

But the thing I do like about what's happening with Nico at the moment is that whatever it takes, he's.

Speaker 6

Lifted to the challenge.

Speaker 3

And his last two games last weekend in particular, he started to play the football that we've known for so long he was capable of since he won the twenty twenty two dally M Metal.

We've known he had this in him, and now he's he's lit that fire to get the best out.

Speaker 1

So sometimes in players, certain traits make them play better, you know.

And for Nicko right now, maybe playing angry, you know, he's really it's Letty's fire, you know, because I remember even when I played, you know, people would often criticize me because I was quite animated and over the top, and then so I tried to tone it down.

Speaker 2

I felt I lost.

Speaker 1

I didn't play as well like there was certain there's certain traits in the way that you play that make you play better.

And I think with him, he's been such a calm player such you know, he's got a cool head, but you know, don't really see much change in emotion when he plays.

And to see this anger and to use it as motivation, it's really brought out the best in him.

Speaker 2

And I think he should just keep letting it right.

Speaker 5

There's a still about him that we probably haven't seen before break.

You can see it in his eyes, you can see it in his tone, and you can see it in the way he's playing.

I think he and Brandon Trindle for a large chunk of their partnership.

One of them has played well, the other one hasn't the first time they've been in sync together and I think that's what's propelled him to a top four Now.

Speaker 1

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