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NRL 360 - Maguire proven right, Grand Final ref announced, plus Panthers dynasty ends - 29/09/25

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Speaker 1

Past the twenty seven rounds and an unforgettable final series.

His two teams remain in the race for the twenty twenty five Premiership.

Speaker 2

And Dennis the unmatched in the mon Era brought to.

Speaker 1

A sudden halt as two powerhouse clubs progress through to the grand Fine.

Speaker 3

Welcome to Amy Park.

The town of Melbourne is pumping.

Hilly cut in a stall comes across the area to Hughes Hugh's out of meeting me in the past for Offery.

Speaker 4

Oh, what a wonderful play by Kennedy, and comes urns over in the corner.

Speaker 5

Huge goes through Jews in the clip.

Speaker 4

Jews comes for it to Hugh's bake Sacks broadrid ristof Monster bit chip kick, he cups pep Pepperdhousen doesn't give the bouch pit it grounds it anyway.

Speaker 2

Fireworks are going off the.

Speaker 3

Storm over the Sharks twenty two to forty a glorious Sunday on the Fox League.

Speaker 5

Well listen to this.

Heap chop the broncos on horf soil, Knny pigtures and let's tug off anybody clearing away.

He wins tun off.

Everybody's on his way again.

Path like everybody, you're doing all Brisbane with it all to do halftime blown.

Speaker 6

It's Penron fourteen Brisbane and nils awful past the grounds, take crow and stacks.

He's on the nuts, stacks and a Risco for Brisbane.

Then he's pushing.

Speaker 5

Hup Man and Cleari are getting it off.

Get them in the l to gone quickly brisber tep that I've never said that before.

Twn the shot sign clearly sang the cry and it turned off.

The fat away and save your weathers wash for fourteen s bok hell hell well shapes the post wash tummy threw up through two of ding up the ball started for the line.

Speaker 6

He's gone for Brisby.

Not broadcasts have come back front sun cuts down.

Speaker 2

That's the reasons why I guess preseasons.

Yeah, the things that you do.

Speaker 5

Reynolds.

He now steps up on the right touch line.

One of the great kickers.

Here we go, a whole band of Fens on his.

Speaker 6

Right, bots Redolds, kicks that take up bell bras Baal fronts.

Speaker 5

Last type of play pumped in the air.

They come back, Yo, Claire, how Ray he won't get the shun in.

I'm going to do it.

Guns and my plot for shots.

It doesn't come up that with me.

Speaker 7

For the run of the purtast.

Speaker 2

There's a feel of whatsoever.

I love to think this, you know, Marius, they run the line and the grandfather.

This is.

Speaker 5

Special.

Speaker 1

Welcome to three sixty year over league from every angle watching by Regain joining.

Speaker 2

Me again the great Gun tallis.

Speaker 1

It's been the journeys in Buzz Rothfield and Brent Reid and what has been one of the best.

Speaker 2

Semi final series of all time.

Speaker 1

It is the Brisbane Broncos and the Melbourne Storm heading to the big dance.

Speaker 2

Gordy how good has been well.

Speaker 8

Everybody spoke to said it's probably the greatest day that they've had at the old Lange Park or sun Corpse Stadium.

They said the stadium was moving, it was rocking.

Every kid woke up this morning, put on a bit of Marona and yellow for the Broncos and went to do whatever they were going to do.

Speaker 2

But what a game.

Speaker 8

I think it's the greatest final series that I've witnessed, to be quite honest.

Speaker 9

Not just the stadium, guys, Televisions were on across the country.

The highest rating Grand Final qualifier in the history of the game.

Speaker 10

Yesterday Channel nine and on Fox Sports.

Speaker 9

Great news for those cheering for an afternoon Grand Finals afternoon footy sensation.

Speaker 11

My wife Cole is my litmus test on everything.

She's jumping around the living room.

You know it's a good game of foot because she does normally jump around the living room breath and she was humped up.

So it was an amazing day yesterday.

Speaker 2

I was jumping around the living room.

I saw that.

Yeah, let's let's address the elephant in the room though.

Buzz yeah, you go far away.

Great Manage McGuire, Yes, what a season he has happened.

He has had a great season.

Speaker 1

All those army camps, Fort Dennison, the boat with on Belli's boat.

Speaker 9

The cultural experience on Thomas Wingsley, Tomson, Buddy Yeah, celebrity cruiser Anthony Bell, all that.

Well, if you want me to sit here on a Monday night and not have an opinion, I'm happy.

Speaker 2

I am.

I'm happy to say quiet love you.

Speaker 9

At the beginning of the year, I was told that Broncos players were struggling to come to groups with magers intense style.

Speaker 2

Right, that was the case.

Speaker 9

They then went to the Harbor Cruz Anthony Bell celebrities, blah blah blah blah blah.

They got beat by sous I wrote the story simple as that, you know what, I've been proven wrong, like everyone else at this desk has at various times of the.

Speaker 1

Years, about the moment.

Speaker 2

This is about the Broncos and Michael.

Speaker 9

Yeah, yeah, I know it's about that, and I stand by everything I said.

And you know what I'm also told.

And if you speak to a couple of players, right, they will tell you they bought in a crisis manager, Grant Williams, crisis spin doctor manager, right, just to calm the farm a bit.

He's worked with police commissioners and some very heavy you know you're seeing to.

Speaker 10

Be doubting what I'm saying.

Why do you bring.

Speaker 2

In a crisis manager to fix the crisis?

Well, exactly, we.

Speaker 12

Had some drama going on.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they had a lot of a movement around, so it's not I'll say this year.

I saw Madge during that period, that tough period in Marubra, and he.

Speaker 1

Was doing it tough.

They were going through They were going through a tough time, they really were.

And that's what makes this even more remarkable because they were in a hole.

Even the way that player, rememberabile question in their desire, you know, and that was what they got in there to do, was to lift their intensity, make sure they were fitter and they had more desire and you know, and competed harder and there was some games there where they were just not even close.

Speaker 2

So that's what makes this so special.

Gordy.

Speaker 8

Yeah, they've fifty games on from the last Grand Final to go to the redemption story.

They can say that it wasn't but there must have been a little bit of noise in the back of the head.

Down fourteen nil, fourteen nil against the side that strangle you, don't give you anything, grind you into the ground.

Speaker 2

It was a great victory and before the true believers, so to be out there and do what they did.

Speaker 10

Comeback two weeks earlier they did something similar in the.

Speaker 2

Great Brenton reed.

He's like he's like a horse in the Melbourne Companies.

Speaker 1

He's coming down the outside lately, some great predictions after a very dismal year, seeing Walker and all the rest of it.

Speaker 2

And you've come on that strong because you're all ever down the Bronx.

Speaker 11

Well I said that the team that wins a compet have to beat Melbourne, Melbourne in the Grand Fine and I said you have to be in the top four.

Speaker 12

Breath you did and Penrith throughout because they didn't finish top.

Speaker 2

Four, proud of you.

Speaker 11

Well, you know, I just stuck them the gun's breath.

You've got to be committed, committed.

Can I say very quickly that was the way they played yesterday?

I reckon that's the epitome of everything that Manage McGuire wanted them to be because they were out down on their knees.

They fought back a bit like the Camera game, but this one just felt like there.

Speaker 2

Was more.

Speaker 12

Something extra to it, the grit and that's what magic gets.

The speed buckets gets not so much.

Boke.

Speaker 9

Yeah, look, I'm still against spear buckets and all that stuff, but you do have to give him credit for those comeback victories against Camberra and they were gone that day.

Speaker 2

You know what is because of the spear buckets.

Speaker 10

But you do not you don't going after the r l P.

Speaker 2

I go, I don't care about.

Speaker 1

To foot clubs and ask them if players have spewed in the off season at their clubs, and you know there would be more than ninety percent saying Yeah, it happens quite really, because most of the time you come back out of shade too, you know, and it's.

Speaker 2

It's it's not even it's not even the I'm.

Speaker 9

Not I'm not going to go back.

I'm not going to go there.

I've got strong beers on it, I've got stress, no problem with it.

Looked into it, no problem.

Well, they looked into it, they investigate.

Right, what's your next topic?

Speaker 5

All right, let's move on.

Speaker 12

Now.

Speaker 2

You think that Kevy and Ben TiO deserve.

Speaker 9

Well, they do and take nothing away from Madge.

I'm telling you here and now, he's done a great job.

I want to give Kevin Walters a rap.

I think he needs to be given credit for the manner in which he left that football club ready to challenge for a title.

Speaker 10

And while they had.

Speaker 9

Their shortcomings last year with a lot of injuries, I think you've got to give him a rap for the way he left the club.

And a lot of coaches aren't judged on how they got to a club and how they leave a club, and Kevin left in great shape.

The other guy want to wrap is Ben Tia their minister for defense.

Last year they averaged twenty five points a game this year.

Second half of the year, they got it down to nineteen points a game, so that's a converted tribe per game.

They're third in the NRL for run meads conceited.

They're third in the NRL for offloads conceited.

Speaker 10

They're really tough.

Speaker 9

Fighten it up and you saw that the whole Penrith scoreless in that second half.

Penrith had some football and some chance.

It's even clear he couldn't.

I recommend Teo is a NRL coach in waiting, I really do.

Speaker 11

Yeah, I agree.

I think Benny's been sort of around the game for a while.

Not success of the Dolphins, Danny Gordy and the queensline Cup.

Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's any down.

He's a coach in waiting, head coach and warning at some point down the track, and you're right, Buzzy deserves look Kevy do.

There's a lot of credit because a lot of that roster was built under Kevy as well.

That's the other thing.

Speaker 12

So imagine herrold a pretty good football team.

I think we all saw that.

Speaker 2

He's been saying that for a while.

Speaker 8

Yeah, Well it's look if you just bail it down and look at that roster.

It's a pretty fair rus yeah in it so like when they run out there, they've got two million dollars half backs.

Yeah, they got Ezra Man a great five, Vader young five eight, Reese, Walsh, Catoni Stage young fast wingers and Paynehassened, Paddy Gergan.

Speaker 1

I do agree, but I must say they come telf last year and magined in my opinion, the majority of the credit.

And it's a fair comeback from the tales of Tiger Town, isn't it If you think.

Speaker 2

This is your favorite vision?

Speaker 1

Right he right now he won with New Zealand in the with the Test match, then he then he wins with the Blues and now he takes the job at the Broncos and he's in the grand file and his first year.

Now, tell me that is an amazing, an amazing coaching effort.

Speaker 10

Well it is, it is.

Speaker 11

And if you I mean, we're talking about great coaches in our game, and you know, the win two premiershipstitute different clubs.

If he wins on Sunday, it's pretty amazing achievement.

There's not a lot of coaches who have done that.

So I think Madge probably stamps himself as one of the great coaches.

I mean not not a Bennett or a Bellamy or an Ivan or a Jack Gibson, but a great coach in his own right.

Speaker 9

To do it in all those forms.

He's just outstanding.

And he's not the first Blake to fail out the West.

I haven't clearly failed the West.

Time had to get out.

Speaker 2

What the other coach, Craig Bellamy coach.

Speaker 1

He's eleventh Grand Final, overtaking the great Wayne Bennett.

Speaker 2

What an achievement this is by Craig good is.

Speaker 11

He's unbelievable.

It's just a ridiculous.

It's twenty two final series out of twenty three years as well or something.

And the one he missed was the salary cap year.

So he's just been and every year he contemplates retiring and he goes run again and he does just as good a job because you know, he never drops his standards break and that's what your new go there.

Speaker 12

There's a standard expected of you at that football club and if you don't meet it, you don't last that long.

And Craig.

Speaker 11

Makes players better just every year after year, never lose his hunger.

Speaker 12

He's driven.

He's an amazing football coach.

Speaker 8

There's some sides that wore the purple jersey that runbelieve all right with Greg English and Can.

But there's been some Grand final size that he's got there and the players that he's got off of scrap people whatever, to get to a Grand Final, it's it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2

I don't think it would be a los that leads me to this.

Speaker 1

Do you think what would be a driving force for Craig would be to win a premiership without Cameron Smith at nine?

Speaker 10

I think it made a lot to him, I really do.

Speaker 9

Look, he had to rebuild, he lost later, he lost Kronk and he lost Cameron Smith, and he's brought through the next generation of big the Monsters and the Jerham Hughes as the towns will fall back and Harriet Grant.

Speaker 10

I think it's important to Craig to you know.

Speaker 9

I think it's there on the back of his mind that Smithy world record player, absolute champion, future immortal.

Speaker 10

But to do it without him would maybe the most.

Speaker 1

Special one that he's I think, Actually, I think of a probably drives Cameron a bit as well, you know, to win a Premier Monster, Yeah, to win a premiership with Craig without those in the team because then it's yeah, all you've got some taking news for us about the referee.

Speaker 2

It's going to be appointed.

Speaker 10

Yeah, I just got a text message a second ago.

Speaker 9

I'm told that Grant Atkins tomorrow will be appointed as referee of the Grand Final, his first ever Grand Final.

His dad played in two Grand Finals, Graham Atkins Paramatta in seventy seven and eighty one.

Ashley Klein had a shocker in Melbourne on Friday night.

Balling played twenty five minutes first half, not good enough, too many penalties.

And I think the Atkins appointment will be very well received across the game.

He's got a big fan club.

He lets football games.

Flail didn't get a perfect mark yesterday.

There was criticism for not putting Liam Martin in the sinbin probably should have been, and his compliance with the ten.

Speaker 8

The right decision though, yeah, well yes, I think referees have a chance to make the correct decision or the right decision.

Speaker 2

And I thought watching that, you know where the game was that what was happening sin.

Speaker 8

And I get it, And then I thought that was the wrong decision when actually Climb sent Hunts and Young.

Speaker 2

I didn't think that that game deserved, you know.

Speaker 9

How to this final series has been so good because you know, the NRL have got the appointments right and they've certainly got this way right already.

Speaker 11

Well, I mean it's like a footy team, right, You've got to pick it on form, and at the moment green Atkins is in better form and actually clne I mean I thought that should have been that's a sin bin any other day except that preliminary final.

Speaker 2

Said all four off or you leave them all.

Speaker 12

I don't particularly have an issue with it.

Speaker 11

Yeah, but you know, I think I think it deserves to referee the Grand final because of the way you refereend of the weekend and the way you actually climb referend the winner.

Speaker 8

It's good that the players decided the winner, you know.

I mean, like they sit there and watch the fans make the players decided that.

Speaker 10

I should have said to break that story is breaking right now Telegraph website.

Speaker 1

Okay, right now on the Telegraph website.

There it is breaking news from the great buzz roth Field.

Now the Broncos win.

Let's talk more about it.

Redemption for Reynolds with that clutch conversion.

What a kick it was, What a moment it was for Adam, the Broncos and the game of rugby league.

What about It was huge resolsh resbolsh was hitting them and not that well right, he's forty twin's like he was hitting the ball well.

Speaker 8

Then Adam walks over and picks the ball up, you know.

And I just listened to the call and I've watched a lot of social media, Danie Naggers, here comes Adam Reynolds and that's what you want, right, he wanted that moment.

Speaker 2

You were there, right, and you said everyone was standing up.

Speaker 1

Everyone was on the edge of their seat or standing up in the eleande rooms and you talk about that's a moment.

Speaker 2

This is a moment for the Broncos.

They're fans, but also Adam, like you know the ghosts yesteryear, you know, like when.

Speaker 8

South played South and the Grand Final.

I think it was on the other side of the field, so.

Speaker 2

He had that moment.

I couldn't imagine what goes for a goal kicker's head, right, like an It's not for me.

Speaker 8

I think it's all blokes that can just wipe it away and all the great goalkickers just worry about this kick.

Speaker 2

This is the most important and that was the moment.

Speaker 9

I think his first kid a game story for him to talk about Waterloo Park down near Redfurn grew up there, I learned to kick there and just you know, got everything sort.

Speaker 11

When he hit it, I thought it was going to hook away actually a little bit and it's just straight out.

Speaker 2

Because that was the Western grandstand blowing.

Speaker 9

Commentary even before the game was should Reno come back?

That they've done so well without him?

But I guess when Kevy Weldes some belly got heard, he had to and I knew.

Speaker 2

It was the right call of bringing back and have paid off in the end.

Speaker 1

Now there was controversy and we're going to revisit at the Cleary Man tackle.

Speaker 2

Did the Broncos deserve a penalty here?

Speaker 9

Absolutely no question at all that he's been tackled in the air while kicking.

Speaker 2

The football deserve the pal Absolutely they.

Speaker 12

Did well, doesn't the Liam Martin?

Speaker 10

Why no, what you do?

Speaker 9

And it's happened many times this year the first offense is penalized, right, that's didn't know what happened.

Speaker 2

That's a penalty.

Speaker 10

You were great tackle in the air probably to the level.

But spoken to the NL about they.

Speaker 12

Also said that the the liam down.

Speaker 2

We're slowing it down.

That's touching.

That's touching.

Let's go back a bit there, let's go back.

I reckon, this is touching.

Speaker 1

Go let's keeping on his left leg on the ground, and when he first makes contact with him, he wraps his arms around him.

Speaker 2

Let's have a look.

He hasn't keep it.

He hasn't keicked yet.

He hasn't kicked yet.

Speaker 1

Still hasn't kick, hasn't kick what's on the ground, still hasn't und He's touching.

Speaker 2

He's touching him.

No penalty wrap title.

They want to protect the kickers.

Last week when the is when he charged the ball down was more dangerous.

He tackled him exactly how he's supposed to.

He wrapped his arms or anyone.

Speaker 10

Taking more what Zack Hoskin did or what place?

Speaker 2

What are you talking about?

Speaker 10

I'm talking to the rules.

Speaker 2

You can't tackle the man the air there he was on the ground.

Made it was that much?

Come on, we're not in the bunker.

Seriously, that was the banker would have looked at it and they would have paused it right here.

Speaker 9

Ready, we should booked for a dangerous tackle.

That was a dangerous tackle.

I'm not changing my opinion.

I don't care what you're stopping here.

It was a dangerous the rules he does, make your own know what we I'm not making my own rules up, broth.

Speaker 2

It was dangerous.

Where's the next frame?

Speaker 10

The next frame?

Speaker 2

The next frames over, still.

Speaker 11

From the ground, and I'll tell you what then they think gives him a slow little punch on the ground as well, which inside of the whole thing, I did it.

Speaker 12

We'll watch it now.

Speaker 9

Watch looks like that I'm about to.

Speaker 12

Do and then Leam Martin comes in like a mania.

Speaker 9

Liam Martin is the one in the wrong here, and that's something we can't argue about.

Speaker 10

And he should have been sin been for that, but the penalty should have gone to Penrith.

Speaker 2

He's still at tackling there.

Disagree, not the first time this year, agreement plenty more, plenty more probably would have done the same.

Speaker 1

Let's get back to a positive, let's get on the same page, paying ass.

What a performance by him, and I mean we're not surprised, right, He's done it for years now, and he's done it all year this year, he's carried.

Speaker 2

Them through some tough times.

Speaker 11

But performance in this game that I know it doesn't surprises, but it should because that was remarkable from him yesterday.

Speaker 2

That's that was the game.

Speaker 8

I'd say with no Paddy Carrigan, there was no one that's not disrespecting the other Broncos forward because they didn't.

Speaker 2

That's inning job.

But this is the effort.

Yeah, and it's coming now.

Speaker 8

Just his effort, right, So he was going to cover then just keep on moving for a keep keep your eyes on him.

Speaker 2

For a big guy to play eighty minutes, that was a massive performance.

Speaker 1

And the chases I haven't looked and he realizes look at that, he's the first one there.

Speaker 2

That's that's unbelievable.

Yeah, ready got.

Speaker 11

Something for he's crazy good, crazy good footballer.

Break well, we know he's different gravy, right, I mean I'm looking forward, actually I'm looking forward actually Stefan's and pretty read on for the moment as well.

Speaker 2

So what's the Hopefully I just wanted to this fellow.

Speaker 9

I've seen web Key, seen Lazarus go back to block of Roach, Les Davids and Ian Roberts, all these great great front rowers.

This fellow is up there with him, no doubt whatsoever.

He's a freakish athlete to have the speed to get in the position to stop Cleary having that kick.

Speaker 10

No one Cleary, he would have kicked him that.

Speaker 8

The only thing is he doesn't have the success.

So what would hold him back is like when we judge, because if we're going to judge everybody, like the half backs.

Oh, he hasn't won a comp.

He hasn't won a camp.

If we go Lazo, they played in five Grand finals in a row.

Yeah, probably got sick.

Yeah, and got six Grand final rings and every club he went to one.

Yes, that is the only thing missing from pain hats because he stats and I think it's probably above.

Speaker 2

All the other guys.

Speaker 10

But it's just no one could do the sort of stuff this guy does on the football field.

Speaker 11

Every time he does that as well, Buzz, he's in November one guy, right, he goes, he hits it.

Speaker 12

It's the open market November one.

His value goes up and up and up.

Speaker 11

He's one point five minimum, one point first.

Speaker 10

One point five million dollar front row.

Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 1

Two of the broncos biggest stars fronted the cameras this morning.

Speaker 2

Take a look.

Speaker 7

Believed in it from the start, and you know that's where we're heading to and you know, for myself it is just a bagging and improved as I go.

And I guess now that we've got the same news out of the way, then you know, all our focus on getting out prep right for this weekend and gone from there.

Speaker 13

I know how and we all know here how tough it is to get to a Grand Final, and we've been there, We've experienced.

Speaker 2

It's what you want to do as a Playou's.

Speaker 13

Why are you work a backside off in pre season?

Speaker 10

We've still got so much work to do.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 13

I'm not looking too far ahead, and I just want to ride the emotions, enjoy it, soak up the week and just have a good time.

Speaker 2

This is our destiny.

What about these two?

Speaker 1

Rhys Walsh, Ezra Man Mezra Man was Allechi coming off the bench, which makes me or leads me to ask this question.

Does Ezra remain on the bench or do you start him at five eight?

Speaker 10

I changed nothing from yesterday.

Speaker 9

I thought he was really really effective when there's some tide legs out there.

I know what he did in the Grand Final a couple of years ago and nearly won the Churchill Medal on a losing side.

Speaker 2

Was coldy Kerrikin comes back.

Speaker 10

Yeah, Car again comes back in.

Say look, okay, you.

Speaker 2

Feel right for someone that's you don't know who comes out.

Speaker 12

I started, I'd start as I'd start as Roman.

I put him in.

Speaker 11

I'd move Ben Ben Hunt back to the bench.

I'd start with fourteen.

After twenty minutes, I bring you hunting to the game.

Speaker 2

That's what I do.

Speaker 12

I get a lot right lately.

Speaker 9

So you do have the hot hand of the moment, hold you back down.

You're saying he's had a hold hand.

He said six teams couldn't win the car when you picked that many.

Eventually gets the ground.

We're going to come out of the top four.

It's been a long year, twenty seventh rounds, and I finally got this broken.

Speaker 11

Listen to me, buddy on the street, very convincing when you say this, Yeah, I would start him.

I just think I thought, like you said, Broke, I thought he was Dynamoice coming off the bench last week.

But that's the point, right, No, I'd say get him out there from the start because I just think he's a game breakout.

Speaker 12

You can win the game for them.

As we're sworn the Grand Final a couple of hours ago.

Speaker 2

I agree with that.

Speaker 1

You agree with he's a special talent OA, So who cares about our opinions right now?

Speaker 2

What are they going to do?

What do you reckon they do?

Speaker 8

Okay, yeah, because six weeks out of it he's come back in.

You would just assess the situation.

Coming off making an impact, You're going to put Ben Hunt into number nine and it's not broken.

So Ben Hunt's robust.

He can take the first twenty minutes, take a bit of sting out of the game for him, and he comes on.

Speaker 2

I know you think it, but do you think that Major will make that call.

It's a big call to make.

Speaker 12

I reckon he might.

Speaker 11

I just think I think if ams in the team, you're start him similar to Ruben cod I during the year, he might do that.

Speaker 12

I didn't really have a smart move.

I know why you didn't do it.

Speaker 2

You that one right.

The Panthers and caught out dynasty has come to an end or is it really over?

I mean they're.

Speaker 1

Champions and even in this game, until they made a couple of errors in the second half, they were in complete control.

And I'm thinking if they if they continue the way that they're playing so precise again, strategic executing with ease and brilliants and poise in class, you name it.

Speaker 2

They had it again.

Speaker 1

I'm thinking that they're going to win this this, this comp and then all of a sudden they did.

Speaker 2

They did.

They get tight because they made a couple of errors.

Speaker 9

But don't suggest the dynasties over whatever.

I'll tell you why this offseason.

I don't know if they're going to lose a great player, are.

Speaker 2

They They've got a similar team identical.

Speaker 9

This probably be the most settled they've been going into a new season, and they were so close and to come back from an impossible position.

They'll make the top four next year, and they're just as like to win a big, big thing reading not losing.

Speaker 11

They've done traditionally in recent years.

I think they made a mistake resting all those players a few weeks ago.

I think that they have to have a reddic.

They had to have a read the top four.

I think that was crucial.

They have to try and make the top four.

We've seen that, Gordy.

That's been proven.

If you realized as good.

Speaker 12

As they are, they they were still an outside hope.

Yea, but even wh was quite outside.

It was like very it was very outside if they run out of That was basically saying they.

Speaker 2

Run out of gas a bit yesterday and they didn't rest, and they would have run.

Speaker 12

Out yesterday they didn't.

Speaker 8

Really, there's a couple of players that they'd like to have again, they should be congratulates.

Speaker 2

A wonderful thing.

Speaker 9

They had arrested players, they would have been cooked by the time they played their first place.

Speaker 2

I don't reckon they.

I don't reckon they regret that decision.

Speaker 10

No, they probably don't coming back with us.

Speaker 12

No, I'm not with it all.

And on the dinistic thing, I mean, I'm with you guys.

Speaker 11

As long as they have Nathan Cleary, they are always going to be in the mix because he's that good.

Speaker 2

Easy, he's brilliant.

How was he yesterday?

Speaker 1

I mean again, he was in full control for the majority of the game.

Did he How was your raised performance scored?

Did he miss any opportunities?

Speaker 12

Yeah?

Speaker 8

Nathan clearic is Nathan Cleary?

But this one here looked at that there was that I think he gets tackled in his tackle five there, and they're not normally Nathan's moments, And that's where you say fatigues there.

So a couple of times when they went and they went at these guys a lot because Adam Reynolds I think five tackles.

I think Catoni Stag's about five, and so was Ricky.

So they were going down there a lot, and I thought they should have taken it too.

They was sitting going, why don't you take the two when it's when they're big games?

Points are so valuable, But you guys have missed, you said, the Sharks probably shouldn't have taken it too.

But I think all the time, and I know it's hindsight.

When I was sitting there live, I said, take the too.

Speaker 11

You didn't that to work so hard after being last through twelve rounds wherever they were, that to work so hard to even make the finals, that just eventually eventually was going to catch up with them.

Speaker 12

I think it just caught up with them yesterday.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean, to win com shit, you need a bit to go away, don't you.

Speaker 1

And although they have been the best team by a long way for a long period of time, now you do need a bit of luck.

Speaker 2

You know, you make your own luck.

I'm a big advocate for that.

That's what I wrote this morning.

Speaker 9

The salary cap finally got hold of them and they probably lost one or two to many players.

I looked at their twenty twenty one side that won the Grand Final and they've lost ten of that seven and the ten they last are all champions.

Speaker 10

I'm talking.

Speaker 1

But you know what made me think too was watching Crafitz Gibbons press conference after their loss and how much he said that that sort of lolder and you hurt them missing out on the fall in the end because how hard it is to back up every week and to go the long way around.

Speaker 2

And then I thought, you know what, it.

Speaker 1

Started me second guessing Penrith against the Bronx.

I'm thinking they might get tired here create fitzy nosy staff and he was telling us the impact that had on his club couldn't catch up to Penrith, and it did in the end.

Speaker 12

I know another bloke who said that missing the top four catch up with him.

The bloke who thanks very much.

Speaker 2

Yourself.

You know I'm going to get your credits and already stick around man.

Speaker 1

This Wednesday, the summer of cricket begins with Australia traveling to New Zealand for a three match T twenty series.

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