Now, let us talk of man and woman. Let us talk of love between man and woman. What is love between man and woman? Well, where I come from, woman is not as structured as man is. She is less inclined to take a position than man. But then you can't apply that over the whole panorama of woman, because there are so many different women – women who have been made aggressive, who have been made more or less into more man than others.

Talking generally for two people to live together in harmony, once they truly want to be together. So as you know what BL says is – I live with a woman or a man, if I'm a woman, to enjoy being together. So then what we've got to examine is what stops us from enjoying being together? That would be a reasonable question, wouldn't it?

Now, in many instances, it's because woman demands something of the man. It's one thing to demonstrate to man a straightness of the intelligence which woman can do. It's another thing to demand something from a man, for demand has got force in it, and for woman to be a real woman, that is not do demand but at the same time to be straight – that requires power and lack of emotion, for all emotion is force. And demand contains force. So there's quite a balance there for woman to get. We'll come back to this in a minute.

Then there's man. Now, man is with woman, where I come from, for her to help him to give up his structures – only to help him, as he is with her to help her to give up emotion. So it's a two-way deal.

Man's main difficulty in living with woman is that he won't listen to her. If he gets emotional, where I come from, it is right for his partner woman to say, 'Why are you emotional?' If he gets angry, the same thing it is right for his partner to say, 'why are you angry?' Now there's no reason that he should not reply straightly why he's angry. 'I'm angry because of the way you speak with to me.' Then, 'what is it about the way I speak to you that makes you angry?'

And so the questions can go on, as long as both are willing to engage in a straight conversation what I call them intelligent conversation. But there's no good one of them being intelligent. Without the other, that's hopeless. And man, because he has since time began regarded himself first of all through his superior physical strength to be superior to a woman. He does not like to listen to a woman who might challenge his cherished attitudes and positions. But for love's sake, for harmony sake, he has to give that up. And he has to just listen to her. Because if she makes sense, then it will make sense to him. And she will help him to get rid of his anger. If she can only get him to say, well, what are you angry about, so that he himself sees that his anger is misplaced. But it does require him to listen. And it also requires a woman not to be emotional in her addressing of him, in her facing him, she has to be quite factual and not get personal, not accusing or blaming, but to ask questions. 

Questions are the safest way for us to handle each other. Not to accuse or blame. As soon as you accused or blame because accusations and blame come from a position – an emotional position – then that immediately arouses the position and defensive emotions in the other one. And that is the story of human relationships.

So you have to make a stand somewhere. And if you are together, and you get emotional, as a man or angry, then there must be a reason why you get emotional and angry. And the sooner that you can tell a woman why you are emotionally angry or angry, the sooner you will be able to get free of it. But if you sit back and say 'I am alright' when she has asked you the question, which we tend to do. Because we don't like to be honest, very difficult to be honest, in such a way to another person. Then we're not going to get rid of the anger, we're going to gloss over it and defend it. And eventually turn it back on the questioner, which is the favorite trick of emotion – it is to say, 'Well, what about you?' Now – that's not being straight.

There's only one thing happening at once here. That is if the woman's asking the man 'Why are you angry?' And he's replying 'Why are you emotional?' If his defense comes round, 'Well, what about you?' That is that is an emotional and unstraight response.

Later on, he can ask her a question, 'why are you emotional?' Why don't you make love with me more often? Which is often the problem with man. And she has to reply. And that's fair enough because he might get an answer from her which says that 'you don't love me enough for me to, to desire to make love with you or to be me to be aroused by your presence, because although I love you, and I do, I would love to make love with you. But if you don't show me some of the tenderness and, and attention or acknowledgement that goes with love, then I will sort of go back in my shell. And I don't want to do that to you. But that's what I do. That's how it is.'

And so, you've got to be able to have this intelligent exchange, without accusations or blame, without taking a position – because what the woman is saying, is either true, or its false.

And we should endeavor not to personalize it. We should endeavor to look and see. Is it true? That I am angry and it shouldn't be self evident if I'm angry, and usually anger the source of anger is sexual frustration in men. Woman gets angry mostly because a man doesn't love her or won't listen to her. So that makes her emotionally angry. But man is usually sexually frustrated because of the creature he is. He's a sexual creature. Woman is not a sexual creature in the first instance. What she wants mostly is love. And of course, sex is a part of that. But one sex gets divided from love, you get division. And the processes of being intelligent, is to gradually bring them together so that sex is love and love is sex. That's not easy here. With all the 1000s of years we got behind us – the pressure in the psyche, in the subconscious, of men not knowing how to love woman, and woman not knowing how to be a real woman.

So a real woman is she who is true to the situation. Now, it is being true to the situation and not to yourself, that's important. Not to be true to your own feelings, but to be true to the situation. So what is the situation between man and woman, the situation is that we are together to enjoy ourselves. And I do not enjoy it. I do not enjoy your anger, if you're angry. And so I will point that out to you when you're angry, trusting that you are intelligent enough to either say the source of it, or to get rid of it within you. So that's been true to the situation. And if the man doesn't get rid of his anger, and insists on his that he has right to be angry or emotional, then the woman has to be a real woman has to very, very seriously look at whether she can remain in this relationship. Because it won't get better, no matter how much she thinks she can change a man unless he is willing to listen, she cannot change him. She only thinks she can. Because she thinks her love is so strong, that she can change anything, it's not true. There has to be a willingness to change.

So she has to be true to the situation which means to be true to love. Not her personal feelings – personal feelings are not love. Her personal feelings are her attachment. As she loves the man, then she's attached to him. If she has feelings of love, if she doesn't have feelings of love towards him, but she knows that she enjoys being with him and enjoys living with him, then that's different. Because she is she's enjoying what is her right to enjoy – being with the man. But she will find that she's always pushing him with her intelligence once she's a real woman, which means she's an intelligent woman. She's always pushing him to be more intelligent to be more present. Because woman, she can be true to the situation of love, and know that she loves being with the man and the day enjoys her life with him. But it's possible that he slides off into some sort of unconsciousness or gets carried away by external activities. That doesn't mean he can't do external activities. That means he has to put a pause between them so that he can speak to her. And even if he's pauses to say, 'I love you. Come here, I love you.' And he spends a little time talking to her about acknowledging her – it'll make a lot a lot of difference. Because there's a communication between this great momentum of getting things done which we men have more than woman – we are we are creatures of momentum, more than woman. Woman is to a degree a creature of momentum where she's got to get things done, but really, she's more capable of putting pause between it.

Now without without going into too much. Would anyone – would you like to ask me a question about what I've said? First of all a woman – what I'm talking about this relationship between man and woman? Yes. Over to Allison, please.

Q1. All that you say I can really follow. And then sometimes there's a period of time just before my periods due, where I can't seem to be so logical, yes. Why is that?

BL: I understand that because the time when the period is coming, somehow or other, it's hormonal, and in most men's and women's experience, it changes the consciousness. It's not, as you say, so logical, it's more rational, although the woman feels that she's being logical. And (she feels) the man is being an irrational creature, she just wants to smash him open or do something, wherever there's her this rationality. Now, it's an extraordinary thing, this period, these periods, what they do to a woman. And, you know, I would say that you, if it's true, then you would be like that all the time. And it is not true, you will only be like that, around about the seven days of the period. And you have to have some reference, because you will find, in my experience, that the period time you the woman, any doubts or fears that you have, will be expressed the same doubts or fears every, every 28 days sort of thing. It'll come out like, like a record or replaying itself. And you have to see that to see 'ah, well, best, then know that I, while I'm doing this, I've got to resist, I've got to shut up.' Because you see it not because the man tells you to shut up. And because you see, this is a repetition. As far as I can see that this happens every month, and the man would be able to help you and he can almost tell you what you're gonna say, in your moments of self doubt or down to the situation. So it's very difficult. And that is woman's, if I could say it, is a burden, this change of consciousness or whatever it is. Man's burden is his sexual drive. He has his terrible sexual drive in him all the time. His his glandular, hers is hormonal, has no good someone saying the glands are the same as hormones and all the rest of it. I just give two words there. Man's is glandular. Hers is hormonal, and very difficult. I don't know that I can say any more to you because you are intelligent woman and you women are intelligent. And either I have spoken from the male point of view of what I've seen. And that's all I can do.

Q1. You've reflected what I've seen. Thank you.

BL: Thank you. You know, they did say didn't they – that some of the primitives or tribes used to put the women on an island down the river somewhere at that time because the men were in charge. But, yeah, some women think that that's a very fine time. And who am I to say otherwise? It just does seem to come between the man and woman in their relationship, this altered state of consciousness.

Yes, so now I'll take a man's question. Please. If you got a question. Yes, this gentleman over here, please.

Q2. John's My name Barry. John from Canberra. Superficially, I can see this point about structures that men work through. But is it deeper than that?

BL: Yes, it's part of the it's part of his sexual nature. I mean, he's got to repress his sexuality, hasn't he? He can't run around being sexual all the time. And that's what he'd like or he thinks he'd like – it comes from the impulse. So there's a repression that goes on in him, he's repressing his sexual nature. Because  he's attracted to woman all the time through his sexual nature. And he's got to repress that. And the only thing he does when you repress something it becomes it's crystallizes, it becomes a structure or becomes an impediment. So he's not free. And yet he can't go around expressing his sexuality. So what's the solution here?

So the solution is that he has to love woman as best he can. And be with a partner that he can truly acknowledge that he loves. Because otherwise, you'll have to make it up. And there are times when the sexuality is his present as a mood. Because it does become moody, when he can't see that he loves her at all. That is due to the sexual mood. And so it takes love and acknowledgement of the woman to get through that. And you have to be with the right woman. That means a woman who doesn't let you get away with it. Because man's moods are usually from a sexual nature from his repression of his sexuality.

Woman has to say, 'Well, why are you restless? Why do you want to do this? Why do you want to do that? What? Why do I see restlessness within you?' He says, 'Well, you don't make love to me enough.' That's usually the problem. Not that he will every time it's available to him, but he thinks you'd like to, you know, it's one of those things.

And she would have to say, 'Well, I'm available to you, but you have to, you have to show that you love me.' And he might say, 'Well, how can I do that? Because I'm doing everything that I know I can do,' and she has to help him. But really, he's got to be able to acknowledge her.

You shouldn't be with a woman or a man surely unless you're able to acknowledge the beauty that you see in them, rightness that you see in them, straightness that you see in them, in the way they address love. It's an acknowledgement of what you see.

Otherwise it becomes a sexual attraction. And sexual attractions just don't last. It's not that the sexual attraction doesn't last. It's because sexual attractions are supposed to reveal sex is not an end in itself. It's supposed to reveal something. That's why sexual attractions don't last. And that doesn't matter how long they go on. But they do because sexual attraction is supposed to be supposed to reveal love. You can't just have sexual attraction.

Because it has you know, in the in the sacrum, where the flow of life is first divided into sex and love, at the bottom of the spine there, you've got a division to start with. So man and woman, there's a division between sex and love. He has sex and she is love. That's man and woman, the male and female. It is in every creature that you see – it is the male pigeon that you see – cooing around, and bouncing up and down around the female bird – that's because it is sexual. Now because it does not have a mind like we have – a reflective, cunning mind – it is a perfect division. With with us, sex has to be united with love.

And that's why eventually every man will be beaten into submission as a result of his sexuality, if he is wantonly sexual. Something will happen to beat him into submission. Because there's a purpose in it you see. The purpose is for you to be more conscious. As man and woman – woman to be more conscious of love, to be more the intelligence of love – and man to also be the intelligence of love, as well as sex because he is a sexual creature. He's the one that follows the woman except where a woman has become like man and become ridiculous chasing man. She has a ways to attract men like the dove and like the cow, but it's not through overtly chasing him. That's not the way it is.

Have I answered the question or not?

Q2: About the sexuality? Yes, it's just about structures...

BL: Are you a creature of habit?

Q2: I am.

BL: Yes. Okay, thanks. I'm more habitual than my woman. Although no one could say the woman is not habitual – she is habitual, but she's not as habitual as I am. Do you see that? That's all I mean, by structures – habit. And so we get into the habit of so many things – what we talk about, what we do, down to what we eat, and all these things. And there's nothing wrong with what we eat. But what we talk about and other structures, whereas woman is more capable of living in the moment, as long as she is not demanding. If she's demanding she can't communicate to the man, it'll rebuff him. He does not like to be demanded of, or to be accused any more than she does. But to ask a question, he has to be open to that. Okay?

Q2: Thank you.

BL: Yes, a woman, please. There's this lady down here. Please. If you just pass it down to the front here, which would you put your hand up Please, madam. Thank you. Your name?

Q3: Karin. From Germany. In my own relationship. I have difficulties to find out the difference between? Does he love me enough? Or am I too much in demand yet in different situations?

BL: So if we look at the demand – when he says you're demanding – what is it that you're? What are you doing? Does he say you're demanding? Or do you know that you're demanding to get more love?

Q3: He says so.

BL: If he says you're demanding, what is it that you're saying or doing?

Q3: Yes. The situation we have together is that he is asking for more independence.

BL: Asking for more independence? Yes. Well, a woman cannot have a man who wants to be independent. I mean, she can, which means he goes his way and she goes her way. Like we've heard of so many famous lovers, partnerships – the politician gets on with his work and the wife gets on with hers. And there are lovers and everything, because it ends up with lovers and all the rest of it. And that is not a partnership. That's a relationship in which we both agreed to go our own ways, and yet to appear to be together.

Q3: Yes, when we when we have a great time together. When we have a great time together. I think he has he suddenly gets fear, you know, to know and he wants to disappear?

BL: Yes, I understand that. It might be at the demand in you was frightening him. But as soon as a woman's love becomes too much for a man, meaning she wants more, he'll retreat because he cannot stand demand and he'll retreat. And that might be why he wants to be more independent. Although man does want to be more independent, he doesn't want to be tied down as much as woman with time.

But I think there's a there's a an area between them where she doesn't have to demand and he can love her more, if she gives up her demand. Now I know she probably thinks "well, he won't do that. If I don't demand and I don't pursue him to to love me more." That's not true because men doesn't like to be pursued except in the first instance you know where they fall into bed on that and he has his way. But generally speaking in a partnership, he doesn't like to be demanded off.

I'd have to ask, I'd have to ask the man, what is he doing? I'd ask you now, what does he do? Or what does he not do? That makes you unhappy? You have to be able to be straight with me. Because he might not be able to say it to him, because he might get emotional and start getting angry. I don't know who he is. But I'm going to ask him in a minute. So what does he do? That makes you unhappy? Or doesn't do?

Q3: Yes, I told you to before. We are together and have a great time. And then suddenly it's like he doesn't see me anymore.

BL: Yes. That's because that is, from where you're coming from. This is not to blame him for where you're coming from. This is because the love is so great and it's so good that he thinks it's going to threaten his independence, he's going to be taken over by you. He's going to be not be the man. He's going to be a wimp forever, then that's the end of it. And because it's getting too good. Because getting too good disturbs the subconscious down there, his sense of independence, and he just goes moody or so he cuts off emotionally. so he does that, right. That's what you told me right? Now, where's the man who can does a man want to speak to me? Yeah. Good. Would you hand it to the man? Now, would you speak to me? Are you from Germany, too?

Q4: Yes. My name is Amin. I'm also from Germany.

BL: Yes, good. Okay. Now you've heard with the lady says, and this is the place, this is why people should come to the master session and these longer ones together. So that we can get things straight between each other so we can get it because I'm not involved you see, and you two are. It's very difficult for two people who are attached and in a relationship, to be honest together. It's very difficult. But you can be do it here. As long as neither of you holds on to anything that the other has said here, and then accuses them after. 'Why did you say that sort of thing?' Mustn't do that, because that's terrible to do, where we are trying endeavouring to be honest.

So could you tell me what happens to you when this lady says that you're going along well, and everything's fine, and then suddenly, you're emotionally absent? Is that true? In your experience?

Q4: Yes, it's true in my experience.

BL: And why does that happen? Would you say?

Q4: Think I got the idea two days before that there are variances in my enjoying my wife. So there are times when I enjoy her very much. And there are times when things gonna disappear. So when I cannot reach here so so so when I do not feel so much so okay. And that's our times when I when I intend to go away to have meditation or to jogging whatever to refocus myself and come back with more strength and more presence. So I think yes, presence for example, is a very important thing. So presence when we are very close together, I forgot a lot of things, I forgot important things.

BL: What important things did you forget? Give me an example.

Q4: Practical things in my life. To phone a person to do something like that.

BL: What did you have to phone the person for?

Q4: To organize my my life and to deal...

BL: Do you mean to say that because you were enjoying your wife, that that would not occur to you if it was important? That there would not be a moment when that would happen to you when you could say, 'I've just got a phone this person and I'll be back.'

You see, that's your imagination. That's not true. You might at that time, but it wasn't necessary for you to do it at that moment. It would happen. If it's important, it will happen but love comes first, and if you don't put love with your wife first, then you will grow apart by living together. You'll have this dark area between you.

Now do you enjoy being with her as a general rule? You enjoy living with her?

Q4: Yes, I enjoy living with her. Yeah.

BL: So why is what happens when you have this? You're not certain that you enjoy her. And you have to go and focus yourself? Why have you got to focus yourself? What was the problem? Why have you got to go? I understand jogging to get the body moving, I understand that. But that would be with her. She wouldn't object to that. If you just jogged and came back or your body, but not to focus yourself because you shouldn't be focused with her.

You shouldn't have to do anything to be focused, go away to meditate. Well, meditation is one way of separating you from a woman. And the sooner you get through that, the better. Because meditation is not an end in itself. So tell me just ask her.

So let me just ask her, does the meditating, worry you? This is important to us. All right. This is a pretty typical situation.

Q3: Not the meditation, but it's the separating. It's not when he's going for meditation or for jogging or something like that. I feel he's separating more and more.

BL: Okay. There's an emotion between you there's something here where you are not one, you are not together here. You got something between you know, although you're living together, there are times when you are apart, within there in that relationship that you're in. And meditation is fine as long as it doesn't interfere with your, your openness and sweetness and rightness. Now, do you find that she demands on you? Does she demand love? Does she say 'why don't you love me more? Love me more?'

Q4: It's very hard to say if I disappear, have less presence or if she's demanding.

BL: That's a good answer. So why do you have less presence? Do you know? You concerned about your lovemaking that you don't make love often enough. You make love often enough?

Q4: Yes. Yeah.

BL: To the lady – and in your love-making do you feel there's loving it?

Q3: Yes.

BL: And that is not an area of any problem to you?

Q3: No, no. Sometimes it's less, but I enjoy it.

BL: Yes. Good. And you enjoy him?

Q3: Yes, very much.

BL: Please give it back to him. So, as the you have this, you obviously enjoy being together, and you enjoy her, and she enjoys you. What I'm endeavoring to get at is what does she do? Or not do? That does not please you? Do you understand what I'm saying? I understand I'm using English here. I'm not using your native language. What does she do? That doesn't please you?

Q3: The only thing I found up to now is from time to time something demanding in areas. But on the other hand, I know that I sometimes really disappear and I'm not very present.

BL: So I'd like to get at what why you disappear. You will see either she's demanding of you and you can't you go like this, or you just disappear. And that's what makes her unhappy. Why do you disappear? You want to refocus yourself – why? Why have you lost your focus? What's the problem? What's the cause of your loss of focus? Do you want to do something else with your life?

Q4: I'm not sure about this question.

BL: No, but then you must look at it. Because when you disappear, usually when you the two men and woman are together and enjoying life like you do from time to time, then something happens. We have to find out. And you withdraw, which you said, and she has seen in you. Why? What happens in that moment? Are you restless? Do you want to go and make love to some other woman? Have you got another woman in mind? Have you got a thought process which thinks that you're being overwhelmed by this woman? Your independence has been taken – you have to be honest enough to see what it is. As much as possible, and she will help you. As long as she doesn't get emotional. Is she an emotional woman?

Q4: She was very emotional in the beginning, and she's not so much emotional now.

BL: That's great. That's great. So you're doing a great job together it sounds to me. Now. Would you ever look at why? Why you go away inside? I mean, you go away inside, right? You want to refocus – why? This is your life. If she left you, you might find that you have terrible pain inside of you. But we tend to take things for granted. Because it sounds to me as though you're doing very well together. It only needs for you to love her more in the sense of being honest to yourself – why do you need to go somewhere? But is it your independence that is threatened? A man cannot be with a woman and be independent. He has to just love her. And then he discovers that she'll give him anything. Woman will give a man anything if he loves her. I'm talking about in a situation like you loving each other – she will give him anything. But he can't want to go and do something else.

Because the whole thing is about loving being together and doing things together, which doesn't appeal to too many men, because they feel that that threatens their independence. It's not true. If I'm with a woman, I've got to love her. We got to be together. That's what I came to her for. That's what I am. We're together. I can't be going like this and, and wanting to be over there when it suits me to make love to her and then, you know, backwards and forwards. All right. I'll leave it like that with you. It seems to me that you're both are honest to me as best as you can be. And you're talking to me and and it seems to me that you're in a good place together. It's just time and working at it a little more to get find out what comes between you. Looks pretty good to me. Thank you.

So can we have a man now please? Yes. Here's a man over here. Your name, please.

Q5: David.

BL: David? From?

Q5: From Boston.

BL: Yes, David?

Q5: I can see that it's my fear of physical love that gets between my partner and I.

BL: Wonderful that you should get that out. Now why are you afraid of physical love? Is it because she might rebuff you or reject you? Or what happens to her that makes you afraid?

Q5: I think it's my fear of sexual failure.

BL: That's fair enough. Because man is mostly male because of the capacity that he has, the capacity to perform as a male. As soon as that's threatened or fear comes in, and doubts and fears which make it even worse. 

So, you know, a real woman – and I'm only talking about an ordinary woman – and I should think that every woman here is an ordinary woman – being a real woman, in the sense that she's, she understands what love is her own experience. She doesn't need you to perform, what she needs you to do is to love her physically. To be there not to have to imagine a phantom woman, to keep an erection, not to have to imagine some woman in the past, or some woman in a magazine to keep you going. She just wants you to love her, because it is a pleasure to be inside her body. And that doesn't require any judgment or anything because it is distinct pleasure for her to have his penis in her vagina, and to love her on top of her. And as long as she is willing, is beautiful for him. Now, she does not need your performance. I know that's a terrible thing to say to men, because he does like to perform and there's nothing wrong with performance. But he shouldn't be afraid that he's going to fail. Because all he's got to do really for a woman is to love her and allow his body to move as it is moved to. Yeah, well, that's the that's what we've been programmed for, by men talking to men and women and all our imagination that she really wants that. Now a sexual woman does want that. A sexual woman is a woman who's had many, many lovers who have had a lot of a lot of exercise on her clitoris. A lot of men just coming in her, making love to her, or satisfying her sexually, giving her some of man's relentless sexual appetite that's transferred from men to women. When you get a woman like that, then you'd have to perform and do all the rest of it. And they do all the movements that they've learned that men like and all this sort of stuff. Rubbish. Love does not perform. Man to woman he's got the body made by God, it is quite natural for him to love her. It's quite natural for her to respond with her body as she does, not according to what she's heard. And him not according to what he's heard. To just love her. Kiss her hold her. And, and as they say, whisper sweet nothings in her ear, which she loves to hear because he means it. Not just because he's sexually erect or something and not be afraid of failure. Because a woman does not want a man to be afraid of failure. She wants a man to be a man. And therefore do just what you are moved to do with her. In love and sex. Okay? Have you got a partner?

Q5: Yes, I do.

BL: Is she here?

Q5: Yeah.

BL: Would you hand it to? Could you help him? Hello, what is your name?

Q6: Robin.

BL: Robin. Would you help him Robin? To get rid of the fact that he has to perform? Do you want him to perform?

Q6: No. I sometimes don't know how to support him. I know he's trying. He tells me he's afraid.

BL: But what's he afraid of? You see, if you say if you say 'I love you, David,' if this is true – do you love him?

Q6: Yes. 

BL: I don't want you to say anything that's not true. 'I love you, David. You don't have to perform. Just allow me allow your body to move just as it moves David. Don't think David, you mustn't think about it. You mustn't go into the past. Just love me. And it will it will be beautiful for me.'

Now as a woman, the man might have to get into the swing of this mature woman of love. And you can allow that while he gets the idea of not trying anymore, performing as he seen on the movies and everywhere and read about it. And if you're a woman enough, you can help him to do that. So that he then discovers I can lover her with my body. Not my brain on my mind. I must not love her with my brain or mind or I'll start thinking of sexual things – that's all I got to do is. There's nothing more sexual than to be allowed to be in a woman's vagina and to love her and be close to her body. If you love her that is and I presume you love her. Do you David? Do you love her?

Q5: Yes.

BL: And Robin, do you love him?

Q6: Yes.

BL: Good. So you may have to support him in that way. And both of you refer to what I have said – as long as you have got the idea of what I've said – you must support him while he goes through this so he doesn't have to perform. But he has to love you, you have to caress her. 

In a partnership, you can do anything with your beloved lady, but to go for the clitoris as man does. The sexually orientated man only wants what he wants to get. He goes to the clitoris all the time. And of course that it's so pleasurable to the woman that was over enough of it. Enough of that she gets into the habit of that. But if he just strikes and loves her all over and caresses or wherever he caresses her, in love, and with the sweetness of his touch, because man has to develop a sweetness to his touch. That means he's got to get rid of the grabbing his touch. Because men to begin with, at the grab, you know, they haven't been taught how to make love. Nobody's told them, their parents haven't told them how to make love. Nobody's told them that you must learn, you must learn to be loving, you must learn to get the touch of love in your hands. And you do that, that comes naturally, if you will only stroke the woman instead of trying to grab or grab it or something to stroke.

Yes, go ahead, David.

Q5: Robin has expressed to me that she's attracted to my strength. At times, and so I find myself performing at times like trying to be strong and grab her tight and, and I can see that it comes naturally at times when when there's real love, there is a strength there.

BL: Yeah, it's when the when the when you reach into your passion between the two of you at that moment. I mean, your body does it. But otherwise, you must not perform on your strength just to satisfy she loves your strength. But the greatest strength in man is to love her and not to perform. Because the other will happen a you know, when it happens, you're both holding each other and all the rest of it that in between your strength is to just love her. That's a strength that woman loves, that does not have any self doubt in it. Because self doubt is not strength. So I've asked Robin to help you. And she's woman and woman knows more about love than us men. If only she will give up all her notions and just love the man so that he can love her more. Okay?

Q5: Thank you, Barry.

BL: Thank you, David.

All right, then well, time to stop for now.

So I trust that you are still practicing. Seeing that you do not have to make decisions any more than you actually have to, that you are waiting for the last moment if necessary. Before you act to make a decision I trust that you have seen that many of your so called decisions are already made for you by changes in circumstances or by new knowledge that arises in you, that changes the situation.

To not say I love this or like that, or don't like this or don't love that. And I'm not talking about the love of a woman or a man talking about this love of things and to also to focus as much as you can – like now this moment on the well being in your body that allows it to keep sitting there, that allows you to actually be as much as you can come back to that in your busy day or whatever you're doing at a meal – you will be reminded of it, you will be reminded of it by the life itself in your body. And when you are reminded just pause and see it's good. When you say it's good it means that you are actually perceiving the well being in your body.

Okay then.

What are the arrangements please? A video at tomorrow morning at 11 And a session at 230. This gives me a chance to, to recuperate, rejuvenate, and all the rest of it. And I trust that BL on the screen has some wisdom and truth to convey to you. So thank you all for being here. And I'll see you personally tomorrow afternoon, God willing, and on the screen tomorrow morning at 11 o'clock.

Thank you.