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Hello, Hello, Welcome to the next chapter in the Book of the Dead.

If you've listened to this podcast for any length of time, you know that I don't just cover cases in America, but all around the world.

From the Kobe child killer in Japan, Russia's Academy Maniacs, the murder of Dadiyushianizuski and Poland, and most recently, Italy's Beasts of Satan.

These are just a few examples of the crimes I've covered globally.

For my first chapter, though I started in Austria telling the story of the Lean's Angels of Death, and I haven't covered a case from there since until today.

While Austria's most high profile case is that of Joseph Fritzel, there is another case that received a fair amount of worldwide media attention, especially after Fritzl's defense attorney Rudolph Meyer, famously represented this client as well.

This is a case where two men were murdered by a woman that psychiatrists have said would be guaranteed to kill again should she be released, someone so stonefaced and cold hearted that the Austrian press dubbed her the Ice Lady.

This is the story of Establize Carranza.

I do want to preface this really quickly by saying that this is the type of case where there is almost no information about the victims.

As I said when I covered Krista Pike and the murder of Colleen Slummer in nineteen ninety five, this case is not about the killer, who we would know nothing about had it not been for the men Esta Belice case, So I do ask you to bear that in mind.

Este Belize Caranzo was born in Mexico sometime in nineteen seventy eight, and as a child, her family moved to Barcelona, Spain.

Now not much is known about her early life, but she was described as highly intelligent and ambitious, as well as very pretty, though her peers described Establiz as something being a little bit off about her.

This could have been contributed to the fact that she grew up in a strict household with a reportedly incredibly overbearing father, which had a profound impact in shaping the woman she would ultimately become.

Esteblice wrote in a memoir published in twenty seventeen, according to BBC, that her father rarely showed affection and she was encouraged to suppress her emotions.

She also wrote quote, I believed I had to serve men, no matter how they behaved towards me.

As she grew into an adult, este Belice's mother urged her to focus on her education, encouraging her daughter to get a career and build financial stability before starting a family.

However, as to Belice, while an honor student and committed to her studies, wanted to find a husband to take care of her and give her the child she dreamed of having.

According to German publications, ES to Belie had been engaged to a man while living in Spain, and during this time it's when she started to have concerning thoughts about the people around her, namely men who either vastly disappointed her in some way or treated her badly.

Allegedly, her fiance was quite controlling, and she fantasized about causing a car accident while he was driving.

Thankful for her fiance, as to police, opted to break off the engagement and bought a ticket to Germany, where her ex couldn't follow her.

He didn't know the language, but she did so she set up to start her new life in Berlin sometime in two thousand, when she was around twenty years old.

Some reports claimed she was going to further her education studying language, and some say she came to work as an alpair, but either way, she ended up taking a job working in an ice cream parlor.

The man she worked for was allegedly also very controlling and was so strict he didn't even allow as the Belice to use the bathroom during her ships.

As a result, her violent thoughts started up again, and she started researching ways to set fire to the shop.

She did ultimately decide not to burn the place down, but not because she worried that her boss could be hurt or even die in the fire, but because she would end up in prison if she were caught.

Sometime in two thousand and two, as to Belie, meets a man named Hulgar Holtz.

He was in his thirties, and it seemed like she really believed she had found her prince charming.

The two married and moved to Vienna, where they opened an ice cream parlor of their own called Schlikaria.

However, much to Astbliss's dismay, Hulgar changed after their wedding.

According to Courier News, Hugar, a gun enthusiast, was allegedly quick tempered and violent.

He was also reportedly very lazy, especially after joining the Hare Krishna movement.

According to NBC, the Harry Krishna Movement, or as it's also called, the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, is a fairly new movement under sixty years old, and was founded in nineteen sixty six in New York City.

It falls under the umbrella of Hinduism, though it is a monotheistic belief system and is quote based on the historic texts of the devotional Bakti yoga tradition, which teaches the ultimate goal for all living beings is to reawaken their love for God or Lord Krishna, the all attractive one.

According to their website, this movement, which has a heavy emphasis on devotional yoga, has millions of congregational members, and they have also opened various hospitals, schools, free food distribution organizations, among other community ran projects to promote their beliefs.

It has also been favorably recognized by various leading academics for its authenticity.

Professor Diana ak, who teaches comparative religion and Indian studies at Harvard University, described the movement as quote a tradition that commands a respected place in the religious life of humans kind, and one of the world's leading authorities on Indian history and culture, said of Hari Krishna that it quote arose out of next to nothing in less than twenty years and has become known all over the West.

This, I feel, is a sign of the times and an important fact in the history of the Western world.

With this being said, I'm a bit under the impression that Holger was not a strict follower of this movement.

The reason I say this is that while it's reported that his laziness could be attributed to the fact that he was unwilling to work, he slept all day, and he allegedly spent a majority of his waking hours playing video games.

All of this, based on the description of Hari Krishna, would lead me to believe while he may have aligned himself with this belief system, Holger wasn't actually following its practices.

And the only reason I mention this at all is because most reports make it seem like Hari Krishna was the cause of his lack of motivation, and I just don't think that that's the case.

Either way, Establie was becoming increasingly frustrated with Hulger.

She said, according to NBC quote, he slept until ten o'clock.

We had no ice cream, He did nothing.

He didn't want to get a grip.

To add to Establize's resentment towards her husband, Holger also seemed uninterested in giving her what she desperately wanted, a baby, with her efforts to seduce him becoming repeatedly unsuccessful and the two struggling financially to the point where they had to move into the ice cream shop.

They would ultimately divorce sometime in two thousand and six.

However, because money had become such a problem, Hulger did not move out, and he would remain in their apartment for the next two years.

Eventually, Establice began seeing a new man.

His name was Manfred Hinterberger, and they met when he came to sell her machinery for her store.

Some reports say that Estebalice would go on to move in with Manfred and Hulger still refused to move out of their apartment, while others suggested Estebalie wanted Manford to move in with her, but due to her ex husband's presence, he was unable to do so.

She said quote, I was completely helpless.

I thought I'd never get my life back either way.

In two thousand and eight, two years after their divorce, as to Belice attempted to talk to Hulgar about finally moving out.

Depending on the report you read, Huger either outright refused and turned his back on her, continuing to play on his computer, or during their argument he laughed at her for dating Manfred, who had been unfaithful, making fun of Estebalize for yet again choosing a man who couldn't give her what she wanted.

Both versions of the story end the same way.

Though furious with Hulger for being dismissive of her, Establize took his twenty two caliber bretta and shot him twice in the back of the head.

Then allegedly she shot him at least four more times to make sure that the job was finished.

According to Establise, she was initially horrified with what she had done, so repulsed that she was unable to touch his body, leaving Huger where he was for multiple days.

Finally, she had to do something with the body, so first she attempted to burn him, but this produced too much smoke, so she purchased the chainsaw and dismembered Hulgar, encasing his remains in concrete and storing them in a deep freezer in the basement of her ice cream shop.

Manfred would end up coming back into Establie's life, claiming to love her and that he wanted a child with her, that he would be faithful.

She said, quote, I could have said no, broken up with him.

I couldn't make it.

I just couldn't get rid of him, not that long.

I loved him.

He would go on to move into her home and he helped us to Police run the shop, but she soon grew frustrated with Manfred as well.

Two years into living together, she suspected Manfred of cheating on her once again.

As her anger festered, she pursued shooting lessons and even took a chainsaw demonstration class at a local hardware store, although The Times Colonist reports her taking cement mixing classes instead.

She even joked with friends about murderous fantasies that she was having.

In November twenty ten, as to Police, confronted Manfred about his infidelity after she, according to NBC, found explicit text messages to other women on his phone, a dating profile, and caught him flirt with another woman at a party they had just attended.

When he dismissed her as Hulger once had, rolling over and falling asleep, she was enraged, as the belice said, quote, it's like having a plastic bag over your head.

You just have to get out.

You have to get out.

In that moment as he slept, she covered the walls and floor with plastic took the same beretta she had used to kill her husband and shot Manford four times in the head.

She laid down a sheet and dismembered his body with the chainsaw, once again, storing the remains in containers of concrete and placing them in the basement deep freezer.

Then she went to work like any other day, even with Manford's family reporting him missing.

For a while as the police, lived her life as normal.

She worked in her ice cream parlor, saw her friends, and even found herself a new boyfriend.

She was thrilled when in June of twenty eleven, she found out she was pregnant.

According to BBC dot Com, she spoke of how she hoped that no one would ever find out about the men she had killed, and she looked forward to the life she had always dreamed of that was finally becoming a reality.

Unfortunately for Establie, her secrets would not stay buried for long.

On the same day she found out she was pregnant, maintenance workers were called to Schlekaria by a tenant moving in to do some work in the basement when they noticed a foul odor coming from the deep freezer.

Upon opening the freezer, they were horrified to discover human remains, and they immediately called the police, but Establice was gone.

By the time that the police arrived.

She had emptied her safety deposit box withdrew ten thousand euros from her savings, purchased a prepaid phone, and boutape gets to Paris.

Afraid though that she would be caught waiting for her flight, she took a taxi to Eudene, Italy, which is a four hundred and eighty kilometer or three hundred mile drive through the Alps, and managed to convince a straight musician to let her stay with him.

A few days after Estebalice made her escape, police found her in the man's home after he called them, suspicious of her behavior and her strange obsession with what the media had dubbed the ice cream shop murders.

As to Belie was ultimately extradited back to Austria on June tenth.

While she was incarcerated awaiting trial, as to Belie gave birth to a baby boy in January of twenty twelve and even married the father of her child, a man named Roland.

Social services took the baby and placed him in the custody of his grandparents in Barcelona.

As to Belice would not go to trial for the murders of Hulgar Holtz and Manfred Hinters until ten months later in November of twenty twelve, which would go on to last four days.

She had confessed fully to police about the murders and would go on to plead guilty, but she hoped that her quote mitigating circumstances would grant her leniency in sentencing.

According to an article for Lanueva Espana, while s to Bealie maintained that her motive for the murders was the mistreatment she was subjected to that caused fitz rage, the Austrian media reported that there was a monetary motive as well.

Hulger invested one hundred thousand euros to help s to police open the ice cream shop, and even though she gave him ten thousand euros in the divorce, there was speculation that they were arguing over who would take over ownership of the ice cream shop at the time of his murder.

There was also speculation that Manfred had ultimately invested large sums of money into the store as well will, though this was never substantiated.

While the media was already having a field day with the ice cream murders and the Austrian ice Lady.

They were spun into even more of a frenzy when it was announced that Estebalize would be represented by Werner, Tominik and Rudolph Meyer.

As I said at the start of this episode, Meyer had represented Joseph Fritzel during his trial, where he was convicted for rape, incest, kidnapping, and the twenty four year enslavement of his own daughter in two thousand and nine.

Also attached to both the Fritzel and Karanza cases was psychiatrist Heidi Kassner, who evaluated Fritzel for four months before his trial and spent thirty hours with Estebalie before hers.

According to Kastner, Esteblie had quote a great comprehensive, multifaceted personality disorder and was at considerable risk for killing again if she did not have therapy.

According to The Times Colonist and the BBC reported that Castner believed there was a higher than average chance that es to police could kill again.

During her testimony, according to The Leader Post, Estebolice claimed that both men had demeaned her.

Hulgar had constantly yelled at her and made fun of her.

German and Manfred was chronically unfaithful in their relationship.

She also claimed, according to ABC International, that he forced her to get botox injections and work out to maintain her appearance throughout the short trial.

The prosecution pointed to este Beliss's stony demeanor during the proceedings as evidence that she was on remorseful for her actions.

As another detriment to her case.

Her psychiatric evaluation described es to Belie as a princess who hopes to be saved by a prince.

She had completely subordinated herself to her respective partners, but had not become happy.

Since Estebalize is not able to end relationship she no longer wants, there are essentially only more deviant ways out.

Suicide is out of the question for s to Belize, which is why the way out would be the elimination of the obstacle that stands in the way of a new and hopefully more advantageous relationship.

Rudolph Meyer attempted during the trial to show that Steblice, while admittedly did kill her ex husband and partner, she was not in her right mind when she had done so.

He argued, according to ABC International, that Esteblice was really a quote insecure and submissive person who tried to present herself as perfect to retain her partners.

Meyer also argued that she was under the impluence of various prescribed medications at the time of the murders.

He alleged that s the Belice lived in a constant state of fear that caused tachocardia, so she was prescribed five to medications that she took three times a day to combat this, including any depressants and medications to manage schizophrenia.

However, the dosage she was taking for schizophrenia should have been much higher than what was allegedly prescribed, at least in order for it to be effective.

When the Italian police officer who arrested Esteblice got on the stand, he maintained that this was not true.

Establis was not taking any medication at the time she was arrested, and had confessed to him during interrogation that she had shot Huger multiple times to ensure that he was really dead.

Former partners of Establie also testified, though her husband Roland refused, maintaining that he believed her to be innocent, and one claim that she was fairly submissive, always doing what she was told, while another claimed she was quote loving, kind and friendly.

He said he never noticed any strange behavior from her, but did acknowledge that she didn't seem authentic she always wanted to be perfect.

This man also claimed that he didn't think that Manfred was a good fit fores to Belie and told her this, but she allegedly said, quote she wanted a man and he wanted an ice cream shop.

On November twenty second, twenty twelve, as to Belie, Cadanza was sentenced to life imprisonment with subsequent preventative custody and remanded to an institution for mentally abnormal lawbreakers.

Should she ever be considered cured, she could have the possibility of being relocated to a prison in Spain to be nearer to her son.

Since her incarceration, though Establize has done little to help her case and portray herself as remorseful or reformed.

In fact, she seems to bask in the media attention and her quote unquote newfound brand as the Ice Lady.

In twenty fourteen, she wrote a memoir with the help of a journalist named Martina Prewin called My Two Lives the true story of the Ice Lady.

In this book, in which she had described a tumultuous upbringing, she seems like she felt badly for taking the lives of two men.

She wrote, quote, I killed two men whom I once loved.

There is no way of glossing this over.

I robbed two mothers of their sons.

She claimed that she had only herself to blame and that she turned them into monsters who treated her badly.

The book was met with a lot of criticism, rightfully so for Establie capitalizing on the murder she committed.

But Martina Prawen and her publisher Edition A, defended the book, saying that Esta Bealie was receiving no money from the book sales and that she knew it wouldn't be right to take payment.

Any money made from the book was allegedly to go into an account for her son.

However, Estebalis's husband, Roland, was vocal that he did not approve of this new venture, saying that money should not be made from the dead.

He also reportedly stated that Sablice had changed and he was no longer so sure of her innocence.

She had become increasingly cold towards him since her incarceration, and she would ultimately file for divorce in twenty eighteen.

Roland's hold Crone in twenty eighteen, quote est is ice cold and calculating.

I let myself be fooled by her, believing her assertions that her two ex partners had treated her extremely badly and that her crimes had been committed in the effect.

But I always knew she is not mentally ill, and since the summer of twenty fifteen, he has quote felt her hardness.

She had lost interest in me because I was no longer useful to her, and suddenly behaved coldly and dismissively towards me.

In twenty seventeen, it was announced that s the Belice was to be transferred to a formerly all male institution along with thirteen other female inmates in Aston, Upper Austria.

According to The Mirror, this penitentiary holds ninety one inmates and allowed them to move freely, with single and double rooms, a lounge area with access to television, and the option for prisoners to prepare meals together.

While they are allowed to roam relatively freely, they are watched around the clock, and the institution also has forty five nurses, eighteen therapists, four doctors, and eight prison guards on staff.

Berner Dominik and Rudolph Meyer said in a joint statement about this quote, it is important that our client can finally be comprehensibly treated, and they hope that this would eventually lead to a transport back to Spain for us to Belie.

Now, this transfer to Aston, where she could allegedly be treated more appropriately, she probably did not have the desired effect that her lawyers were hoping for.

Anna Aston s the Belice changed her tune and fully embraced her isolady brand in a new memoir called Zell fourteen, which is her cell number, published in twenty eighteen and written by Bernard Solomon.

After hundreds of conversations with Este Belie and her new boyfriend between the years of twenty fourteen and twenty eighteen, s the Beliefs in this new memoir claimed that she no longer was a woman betrayed and at the end of her rope by the men that claimed to love her.

This time, she said quote, all people are murderers, only some have not yet started murdering, and most never do it.

Means nothing if someone is unblemished.

I was also blameless.

Then I killed two men.

Who says that someone who sits unblemish at a bus stop and reads the newspaper won't come a murder tomorrow.

She also spoke of how she was very aware of how the public viewed her and did what she could to maintain her beauty well incarcerated, and how she keeps a record of every time she's in the news.

She said, quote, eight years after my actions, I am on the front page.

I like that.

It gives me strength.

It makes me proud.

They should call me narcissistic, the ice Lady brand.

It is also a value because of them.

I'm not just any murderer.

According to an article for Crone, she also admits that revenge for her mistreatment was not necessarily the only motive for Hulgar and Manford's murders.

The Austrian media had it right.

In twenty eleven, she was in debt to both men and paying them off would have meant losing her ice cream parlor.

Quote.

I told nonsense about myself for a long time because I didn't want to look like an ice cold killer.

I kept seeking that I only murdered for money and a little bit of revenge, also out of revenge, a confession that will soon get me out of the psychonos.

She hoped that by making these confessions she would prove that she was in her right mind and be granted her long desired transfer, where she would be able to petition for release after fifteen years.

However, in the memoir, she also admits to an unapproved relationship with the man that I mentioned earlier, Martin, which is against the rules of the prison.

They were allegedly engaged to be married, and because of this confession, her privileges in the institution were severely restricted, as de Belice was put on round the clock watch.

Her visitations with her son were stopped, and she and Martin were separated.

All conversations with Bernard Solomon were also prohibited, and her family threatened to break off all contact with her if she did not stop seeing Marten.

As of today, there has been no new updates on Establize.

It doesn't seem as if she has any new books in the works, although, as I said, her visits with Solomon were ultimately prohibited after Zelle fourteen's release, and it looks as if she is just serving her sentence, basking in her brand of the Ice Lady of Austria.

It can certainly be said, though, that she doesn't feel any guilt for killing two men.

Whether or not they didn't treat her correctly is up to debate, but she said herself that she could have just left.

She blamed them for fueling a quote evil part of her that grew and grew until she murdered them.

But she seems content with being called to killer.

I do believe that the psychiatric evaluation was correct Establice portrays herself, at least based on that twenty eighteen memoir, as someone who could and would kill again and if she came up with a good enough reason to do so.

As I mentioned when I covered the Lane's Angels of Death, Austria's criminal justice system focuses heavily on rehabilitation.

But as to police Caranza, I strongly believe is not a killer that can be changed.

It's who she inherently is.

As always, I thank you so much for listening, and I hope you have a wonderful week and I will see you in the next chapter of the Book of the Death.

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