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The Show: Wide Receiver Performance, Look-Ahead Waivers, and More

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Speaker 1

You're about to listen to the Late Round Fantasy Football Show, which originally aired yesterday on YouTube.

If you'd like to catch it live, you can find it on the Late Round Fantasy Football YouTube channel at one pm Eastern every Friday during this twenty twenty five season.

That's on YouTube dot com slash at Late Round FF.

So, without further ado, here's this week's episode.

Speaker 2

Welcome In.

Welcome In.

It's Late Round Fantasy Football Show.

I'm David Kitchen, the COO, also the guy with the perfectly normal, healthy voice.

Speaker 3

Right now it is better you feel you guys hear this.

You can you can hear it.

There's still a little bit going on there.

Yeah, you're you're doing a lot better.

I do want to say this is, by the way, this is JJ Zach g Reaesson.

You might know him from the uh Late Round podcast late imagine being imagine being subscribe to the podcast feed but not knowing who I am.

Speaker 2

Someone said in the discord that they didn't know, like I think it was a mid Perspectives episode or whatever it was, that they didn't know which was which was which?

Your voice has been a little weak this week.

Speaker 4

What are you saying?

Which was which?

They said that they.

Speaker 2

Didn't recognize the voices and they they thought something was up with their their speakers.

Speaker 3

Uh oh, you mean they couldn't recognize that I have that I had a screwed up voice.

Yeah, yeah, which is crazy to me because I mean, even now you can kind of hear the rasp, but I can't hear this.

Especially yesterday's show was easily I think the worst that uh.

Speaker 2

That I I referenced it to shaky Wi fi, like you're just kind of expecting it to go out, but you held on, just like people's Week fourteen teams.

I do want to say though, I knew this was coming because when we were talking about the possible Godulla high yeah, and we're like, I was like, well, and what if you get like sick during a week, And you're like, well, I've never gotten sick.

Speaker 4

No, it's something I haven't on sick.

Speaker 3

I look, I have podcasted through COVID.

Speaker 4

I have.

Speaker 3

But like, I know, it's inevitable that you will get knocked down.

Yeah, but just like they say in tub thumping.

Speaker 4

You get up again, I'll get up again.

You're never gonna keep me down.

But no, so I uh, you know, I know that you drink a whiskey drink and a vodka drink.

Is that what it wasmes?

It helps, yeahs it helps.

Speaker 3

But I have not missed a show in the season, you know, aside from like holidays and stuff like that.

I haven't missed a show in the in the eight years that I've been doing the Late Round podcast.

And I hope that that continues for the next thirty you know.

I hope that I'm able to you know.

I feel feel very lucky that even like when I had COVID at the peak of COVID, like you know, in like twenty twenty one or whatever, that even then, it wasn't bad enough that I couldn't podcast through it.

It wasn't fun, definitely wasn't fun, but I still did podcast through.

I do want to read one comment on Spotify that we got today that I thought was just hilarious.

It was from Jordan, and Jordan said, Kitch, so this is to you, right, okay, Kitch, you couldn't fill in for your boy for one episode so he doesn't have to come on here.

Sounding like Doc Rivers, It's very good.

Speaker 4

That's pretty good.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you do not want me filling in?

I am I gotta say.

I mean, my role is not to provide content.

My role is to be the voice of the Normy view or the Normy listener out there, so it'd just be like Normy's leading normis and nobody, nobody wants that I do.

Speaker 3

Sometimes I'm not gonna lie, like, the worst part of the podcast for me is actually the delivery part of it, because the fun part for me is the research and coming up with answers and all that kind of I love it so much, but I'm all done with that by the time I go to records, so all I have to do is record.

Speaker 4

And when you're doing it solo, it's not nearly as fun.

Speaker 3

Like I love doing this show because you never know what's really gonna pop up, and you know, we're having a conversation and stuff, and when you're having a conversation with someone else, you're at least you know.

There's this unpredictability to it where you're doing a show and you're like, I don't I don't know fully what's gonna happen.

But when I'm doing the solo show, I know exactly what I'm gonna talk about, So I kind of just wish I could hit a button that maybe AI and five or some years will well, I mean maybe even in just a year.

Uh, you know, I could just hit a button and it would it would have the same cadence.

Speaker 4

And flow that it typically would.

Speaker 3

But look, I mean by the end, by the end of me recording.

I've talked to Kitchen about this.

When I do the solo show, oftentimes I'm sweating because it's just me and obviously I cut stuff so like it'll be like twenty five minutes for a twenty minute show or something like that, and my my ring will tell me that I've burned like two hundred and fifty calories after after doing a solo show.

Speaker 2

You're like Ripken mixed with like Michael Phelps next.

Speaker 4

Well, we don't need to go that far.

I'm just saying Phelps.

Speaker 2

You know, it's like you have to eat your calories to uh prepare for your your podcast because.

Speaker 3

Easier to get rid of some of these LB's that I'm trying to get rid of right now, you you and me both, all right, this is a down and nerdy show.

Speaker 2

It's an interactive show.

Here's my question.

I'm not going to give out any names, but we got a message from the wife of a listener M and they are a hardcore fantasy football person, and she said, I don't know.

Speaker 4

What to get this guy.

Yeah, can you help me out?

I don't know what.

I don't know what to get them either.

Yeah, And so that's why maybe maybe a lay round prospect.

Speaker 2

I mean, listen, Then we talked about investing in something and something valuable, something could be of worth.

Yeah, sure, but other than like an East Coast Dad shirt or something like, what would you think?

So here's the question and you can answer it in the comments.

You can answer it if you're listening to this later.

What's what would be like a good gift for a fantasy football guy in your bucket?

Speaker 3

Ethan in chat says blood pressure meds, which is which is very far.

Speaker 4

Honestly what would be good.

Speaker 2

But we'll probably talking about that more in the patreon.

I guess we'll have a whole discussion about it.

Maybe JJ will go over his his buckets thing at some point.

And speaking of that, Hey, join us in the patreon.

It's it's a fun time.

You should subscribe to us on YouTube and like and everything else.

But if you really want to be in the community community, come hang out with us in the in the Patreon and that's in the discord, which is a part of Patreon.

So again, interact with us, leave us comments.

And JJ, are you ready to get to the notes because it's really like very focused on one team.

Yeah.

Speaker 4

I have a feeling on what team that is.

Bill, Yeah, let's get to it, all right, Today's fantasy news.

Okay, let's just go with the first.

What happened last night?

Okay, you guys switched the tab over on the on the Oh I thought I did?

There you go, I had two tabs, yeah there you okay, Okay.

Speaker 2

Yeah, last night we have two tabs open.

All right, So as far as what happened last night, give your just overall assessment.

Speaker 3

Well, Jamiir Gibbs has been used a lot more as a pass catcher with Dan Campbell calling plays, which has been really good to see, you know, well good for people who have Jamir Gibbs.

So that's been nice.

He's been dominating obviously, a really good matchup for him against Dallas this week.

Speaker 4

Dallas has been a lot.

Speaker 3

Better against the run though, to be fair, since they made that move with the Jets.

And so I do think that we should you know, like even Gibbs didn't have like that crazy of a rushing line last night.

It was just all receiving and him getting more work through the air.

Maybe that had something to do with amanas Same Brown not being one hundred percent.

Speaker 2

They said they're gonna line him up at receiver.

Speaker 3

Yeah, but look, ARSB didn't look that bad last No, he made that one play late where he looked like his normal self, which I mean, props to him.

Speaker 4

That dude is incredible.

So I started him in.

Speaker 2

My main or I did not start him in my main home league, and I need to win this week, but I'm like, I just can't do it.

Speaker 4

So last night, did you not reference the rankings kitchen?

I did, But it was I just you had a feeling.

Speaker 2

I had a feeling like I was like, what if he's just like a limited snap count?

Like I need I just and so when he was like catching those balls, I was like, all right, don't do anything, like, don't do anything too good.

Speaker 4

I don't want to.

I don't want a bunch of men.

Speaker 3

He had a good he had a good outing, but you know, he didn't find the end zone.

So it was like it was crippling for you it's not like Ben Jack Gibbs or something last night.

But yeah, like I thought aman Ros saying Brown looked good, Jamison Williams continues to be involved a little bit more, you know, getting a little bit more of.

Speaker 4

Those crossing routes.

Speaker 3

I've said this before though, Okay, I said this on the on ten trends a few weeks ago.

I think that a lot of people just assume that he's getting more of those routes.

And he might have last night, and I haven't looked into the data.

It's not so much that he's getting more, so he's getting targeted on those routes.

His a DOT is so much lower since Dan Campbell took over because they're actually targeting him on those on those routes.

Remember, average depth of target is average depth of target, which means when they're actually targeted.

Speaker 4

That's what we're counting for the depth.

Speaker 3

It's not average depth of routes, you know, it's not it's not how they're actually running.

I think I would imagine his average up of route maybe changed a little bit.

I don't really know how you would measure that to be fair, but you know, I would imagine that that's changed maybe a little bit, but uh, the the depth of target is really what's changed a lot for Jmo because they are giving him closer to the line of scrimmage looks.

And when you are getting targets closer to the line of scrimmage, your catch rate increases.

Speaker 4

There's more conversion.

Speaker 3

You know, you're not just getting stuff down the field that's a lot more difficult to you know, you can become more boom bust, which is exactly what we were seeing with Jamo earlier in the season.

So I think that's been good.

So the Lions offense big plus.

Obviously, the big news from the game was Ceedee Lamb.

Yeah, and that horrible concussion that he sustained where he was in the fencing posture after he hit his head on the on the turt or.

Speaker 4

On the on the ground in the end zone.

Speaker 3

And you know, Ryan Flinoy stepped up and had a pretty good game from a receiving standpoint.

I thought last night was George Pickens's worst game of the season in terms of just like general effort if you will.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that was the big Like that's what you do not want heading into like the playoffs.

You know, you don't want any sort of drama because the Cowboys had been relatively drama free from Pickens, Like.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean there's been like some random stuff like he sat out that first drive when Ceedee Lamb sat out the first drive.

Speaker 4

A couple of games ago.

Speaker 3

But against the Raiders, was it Yeah, but like yeah, I mean, I I'll say this, and this is kind of like anecdotal, and you know, it's just a little story.

But I went on Twitter a couple of weeks ago and I was talking about how the Steelers, you know, I was talking about the Steelers and how like d the DK Metcalf trade, in my opinion, which is really bad, Like they DK Metcalf was coming off arguably his worst season of his career and they give him this huge contract and they sent a second round pick while getting a third round pick for George Pickens, And you know, I was met with the typical you know, Steelers fan.

It's so funny whenever I do that, as if like they don't realize that I grew up as a Steelers fan and like grew up in Pittsburgh and like know that city and culture just as well as they do.

But regardless of that, you know, a lot of people were coming at me just being like, you know, George Pickens is a head case.

They had to get rid of him, and blah blah blah blah bla uh and and so naturally I logged onto Twitter this morning and there was someone in my mentions, uh talking junk because CD yes that game.

I'm like, I'm like, how are you talking talking junk right now?

Whenever DK Metcalf hasn't done anything since like week five or you know they're bye around that time.

Speaker 4

But regardless, like I think.

Speaker 3

That that, Yes, there is the off the field stuff with Pickens that sometimes translates to a lack of effort like we saw last night, Like you know, could he have been a little bit more aggressive and getting some of these the past, even the.

Speaker 4

One that was picked.

Speaker 3

Could he have been more aggressive and going after that?

Yeah, of course, we'll see how he responds.

We'll see if you know, the one thing with Ceedee Lamb being concussed is that he does get a little extra time because it was a Thursday night game.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, but.

Speaker 2

A right someone I saw someone saying that like if you just looked at people past people that went through the fencing response that like it's it's that's not good.

Speaker 4

Usually it takes a little bit of time.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, I'm certainly I look, whenever I say that, I'm certainly saying that I hope first and foremost that he is healthy and it's not them like, you know, I'm not putting fantasy first, but I am saying, you have those extra four days.

You know what we've seen recently, and I don't have the data, but it does seem like, you know, eighty to ninety percent of the time when a player gets a concussion, he's out the next week.

You know, like it's just it's just that's the reality of where we're at right now, and that's good.

I'd rather than you know, be on that side than you know, aggressively put them back in the lineup.

But if Ceedee Lamb is out, I would imagine George Pickens.

You know, we saw Pickens without Lamb earlier this season, and he was a stud and I would imagine he'd be He'd be pretty studley for fantasy purposes if Ceedee Lamb's out.

Speaker 2

And this is where those first round buys are crucial with stuff like this.

Speaker 4

Yeah, if you have Ceedee Lamb, all right, let's get on to Arizona.

Spill the tea.

Boy.

Speaker 2

We have, I mean, just a lot to talk about here.

Trey Benson.

Hey, let's open up the practice and then not know if he's gonna come back this season.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

So here's the thing with the practice windows stuff.

He technically I think it closes on like the tenth So I'm pretty sure they can activate him and then he could technically play next week if they if they were to activate him, Okay, but they haven't activated as a whole point, right right, right, But when I'm prefacing this, yes, I'm pretty sure that's that's how it works.

And I'm if I'm wrong, like you guys can fact check, but I'm pretty sure that's where we're at with Trey Benson right now.

Speaker 4

And I'm just saying that because a lot of people.

Speaker 3

Are asking if they should drop him, and you could, yes, you know, like I know that I recommended him as a buy a handful of weeks ago as a highly you know, obviously a high variance by because he was banged up, and they but they get they get Cincinnati in week seventeen, and so you got to basically row, like if there's one guy that I would roster outside of Trey Benson is uh, sorry, I was reading one of the comments if never mind, but but the one, the one running back that I would uh roster outside of Trey Benson has to probably be Bam Knight at this point because to me.

Speaker 4

I'm Mario Demarcado healthier now.

Speaker 3

He probably kind of clashes more in terms of usage with Michael Carter, which could be could come in handy this week because they play the Rams are probably gonna be a negative game script.

Speaker 4

But Bam Knight, I.

Speaker 3

Mean he's consistently seeing like you know, sixty ish percent running back rush airs.

Speaker 4

He'll see some work through the air.

That's kind of the direction that I would.

Speaker 3

Go in if if you you know, as the number two outside of Benson, if Benson's out, it.

Speaker 4

Would it would just be Bam Knight.

Speaker 2

Okay, and then see I was gonna go through all of them.

You're even letting me go through all of them.

There's sorry, sorry, let's just let's just okay.

Benson, Kyler Murray not coming back right on the eye off, not surprising though not right not surprising, but like today they announced he's not coming back.

You've got Kyler murray on your redraft teams feel free to drop them.

And then you also have MHJ.

Martin Harrison Junior not playing this week and the other surprise, Greg Dortsch is out.

And I see your response says Xavier Weaver season.

And when I saw you post this in the discord, I thought, oh, honey, your sickness to get into your head because I didn't know you were talking about Cardinals.

I just like I thought you were saying xavier'er worthy, Like you said, this is Lokia Azavier worthy or a Zavier Weaver game, and I thought, oh, he's I'm not being that serious.

To be fair, I know, but no, I thought that you were many meaning to say xavier' worthy.

Most people don't know who Xavier Weaver is unless you bought the prospect guy.

Speaker 4

So two years ago he came out Colorado.

Speaker 3

If I recall correctly, he was a He's a smaller framed wide receiver who in college was able to do a lot.

Speaker 4

Of deep work.

Speaker 3

He actually had you know, I've changed the breakout score methodology a little bit year over year, but he actually had like an above average breakout score, which is not something that you typically stee from like an undrafted type player.

But he's probably gonna run the second most routes at wide receiver for Arizona this week.

He did have a hamstring injury or not hamstring, he popped up with some injury.

I'm thinking about Pat Bryant.

He popped up with some injury on yesterday, and so I'm assuming that he's gonna be good to go this week.

So if he's not, then I don't even know where we're looking, you know, at wide receiver for I mean, I wouldn't look honestly at any other wide receiver.

I wouldn't be looking at Xavier Weaver either, unless you're in a real like I might have to start him in an incredibly deep league.

Speaker 4

So don't judge me when I say that it's a very very deep league.

Speaker 3

But I but I really, you know, in most twelve team leagues, you should not be looking at Xavier Weaver.

Speaker 4

But look negative game script.

Speaker 3

They've been throwing it more than any other team in football, the Cardinals have, so there could be like a six to seven target game.

Speaker 4

You know, something along those lines for Xavier Weaver this week.

And if that's the case, he might be a little bit usable.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but other than Xavier Weaver, I mean, if you've got Trey McBride or Michael Wilson on your team, yeah, just just be blessed.

Speaker 3

Trust me, buddy.

I need with my Trey McBride exposure in Best.

Speaker 4

Ball Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3

And with the forty nine ers and Patriots being on a buy this week, yes, I need a legacy game from Trey McBride.

Speaker 4

It would be phenomenal.

All right.

Speaking of T.

T Higgins is back this week.

Speaker 2

Isn't it nice to have T Higgins, Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow playing in a like a meaningful game.

Speaker 4

Isn't that fun?

Speaker 3

The Boys are back and the Boys are back?

Yeah?

Yeah, I mean like it's an okay matchup.

I think t should be in your lineup, you know, in most lineups if you've got them.

You know, it's a little bit of a for Joe Burrow.

This Bengals team, it's like I feel like it's like deja vous from last year, where you know, they really their offense was incredible down the stretch last year and they were winning some games, but it was just too little, too late, And that's where we're basically.

Speaker 4

At right now.

Speaker 3

They can still get in though, like they need they need like the Ravens to beat the Steelers, and then they need to be able to beat you know, Baltimore all this kind of stuff, But like they can still realistically get in it.

And it's not like like Pittsburgh and Baltimore are trending in the wrong direction right now.

Speaker 4

So never say never.

It's the NFL.

Speaker 3

We see crazy stuff happen all the time, and it's nice that they are competitive right now because you know, there there's obviously some very very big fantasy assets on that team.

Speaker 2

All right, more Kincaid Kinkaid.

We've got Dalton Kincaid, who we thought was gonna come back possible, but now his knee, he's deal with a hammy, but now his knee popped back up on the injury report, So not sure if he's gonna play this week.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I think he was like limited again maybe today.

Uh, And they don't know exactly what's going to go on, uh, you know with him, and so you know, if he does go, Cincinnati is an incredible matchup.

Speaker 4

Uh.

Speaker 3

They basically are allowing three times the amount of points per game to team tight ends above expected versus any other team in football.

Like, it's it's crazy how bad they've been against the tight end position.

So if if Dalond kink goes, you gotta play him.

Then if he doesn't.

You know, I didn't mention this on the Sleeper Show.

I should have added it as sort of an aside.

Dawson Knox becomes at least some sort of streamer for you this week.

Speaker 4

If if k can't go, all right, we've got Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 2

Yay Daniels, no more Mariota, do you want to set the record after hearing Mariota coming out and saying that it is kind of how you pronounce his name, because there's a little bit of back and forth on this week's Way Wire or Not Way Wires Show, Living the Stream Show.

Speaker 3

Ye, look, Mariota is how I would say it.

But I know that they really want to stress the tea.

Speaker 4

But here's the thing.

Speaker 3

When he answered that question, he was answering it for the for the a sound, not really for the tea party.

Speaker 4

He was he was answering it for the for the Mario marriage.

Speaker 2

I always told you it's it's Mariota and it's Camara, right, correct, Yeah.

Speaker 3

And so it's Marcus Mariota but he was stressing the tea and sure I could say Mariota, is that better Marcus Mariota.

Speaker 2

When Dinny was saying Minnesota, I always like it.

Speaker 4

Man, that's good.

Okay.

Speaker 2

But Jayden Daniels though, starting this week, and they obviously have Terry McLaurin now like nice little offense too.

Speaker 3

Yeah, he's a QB one this week.

For me, I'll probably even bump up a little bit more than I had him entering Thursday night.

But yeah, I think that you know, when these injuries happen where it's not it's not his throwing arm, it's not his legs, you know, you got to hope that he's in game shape.

But it hasn't been like that long and so I'm not like overly concerned about him having setbacks.

And this is another example of you know, like we get people talking all the time this time of year where they're like, oh, is this team gonna shut this guy down as they're in the end.

You guys, these are professional football players and they want to play football, you know, like this is what they do for their job, and they don't want to just stop playing because they want to prove that they're I mean all of these guys.

In order to be in the NFL, you have to have a pretty you have to have a ton of confidence, and you have to have a pretty big ego and all that, especially a quarterback, right, and these guys want to play, and so if he's healthy, he will play.

It's no different than Joe Burrow.

Like I would hope that the Bengals are not throwing out Joe Burrow if he's fifty percent there.

You know.

Similarly, I hope that Washington's not throwing Jade Daniels out there if he's only sixty percent through this injury, because that would be really bad for for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 4

But I like, if he's healthy, he's healthy.

Speaker 3

You know, if a players healthy, you don't just not play him just because you're out of it, you know.

Speaker 4

So he's gonna play.

I think he can be effective.

Speaker 3

It's not the best matchup in the world, but I don't you know, like you said, Terry mclaurin's back, they were playing in a dome this week, so it could definitely be worse.

Speaker 2

Yeah, with the Joe Burrow thing, my my arch nemesis in my home league.

The guy, you know, everyone's got that one guy you just want to beat and you talk trash.

And he dropped Joe Burrow this season, and so I picked him up off the waivewire.

I had the most most fab and and it's a super flex league, and so this week he's having to start like Alec Pierce at.

Speaker 4

The super flex spot.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and I just I just kind of let him know, you can't.

Speaker 4

Be dropping quarterbacks like that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, just kind of let him know, Hey, I don't know what happened, but thanks man, which he was thrilled about.

But I was a little ticked because then it kind of it happened to me in this sense that someone picked up off the waiver wire.

It's this is an act of league.

Someone picked up off the waiver wire Mike Evans yesterday or two days ago when it came out there.

Speaker 4

And I was ticked that I did not think of that.

That like, how did Mike Evans slip through the cracks?

Right?

I was ticked.

That's the same thing a you problem it is.

I was ticked to myself.

JJ okay, okay, good, yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 2

To that point, not I put not so fast Evans sniper guy on the title here, because he's not going to be playing this week.

Speaker 3

Yeah, but I'm expecting him in week fifteen.

Yeah, so if he's out there, you guys should be adding him.

I haven't talked about him on fifteen transactions because he's still rostered in like sixty percent plus of leagues, so I couldn't I couldn't bring him up.

Speaker 2

But yeah, but a lot of times what happens when you're adding players is like you're looking at the projections for that week, and so these guys aren't there.

Speaker 4

Sure, yeah, I do think that.

Speaker 3

So there was a point made by Hayden winks he sent a tweet out of expected Fantasy points when all three of these guys were healthy, sox to Buca, Chris got one of Mike Evans, and basically, you know, as you would expect, Abuka has higher expected Fantasy points without these guys than with them, so.

Speaker 4

It should hurt him, you know a little bit.

Speaker 3

Like it's not like he's been doing that much recently anyway, But there is a little bit of concern for Abuka next week as Evans gets healthier.

Speaker 4

But I still think that Abuka can be like a twenty.

Speaker 3

Percent target share player in an offense with Godwin and Evans, and like the problem with him has not been volume, it's just been efficiency and the ability to connect with Baker Mayfield.

So I actually think that Abuka could still perform better than he has been over the last handful of weeks.

Speaker 4

It's almost hard for him to not perform a little bit better.

Speaker 3

But you should definitely be adding Mike Evans right now if he's out there.

It's also good for Baker.

Don don't forget about that if Baker's on your waiver wire, because he has been ever, I mean, he's It was really funny I was I was going through when I was looking at quarterback points per game, and I remember, just out of the blue that one of my bold predictions at the beginning of the season was that Trevor Lawrence was gonna out score Baker Mayfield and points per game, which was a terrible prediction in hindsight, But was it Because right now, Sir Lawrence is only zero.

Speaker 4

Point one points per game behind Baker Mayfield, which is absolutely wild.

So so we'll see.

Speaker 2

What happens, all right, since you brought up Igbuka, we did just get a report from Dan H.

Weiderer, says romadon day status for Sunday and Green Bay seems very iffy at the moment.

Will be interesting to see how the Bears handle things.

If he can't go, I'll.

Speaker 4

Tell you how they'll handle things.

It's gonna be a Luthor Burden season.

You better learn Luthor Burden the third.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm excited for for Luthor Burden.

I'm not excited if a Doonesday misses though, because I need him for you know, personally for for some teams and stuff.

But he has not been on the same page as Caleb Williams.

I said this in discord today.

Speaker 4

It seems a little.

Speaker 3

Weird to me that people keep like giving the excuse and like like keep making excuses for Romadoonza despite the poor performances, when they just don't do that for other wide receivers who would be in a similar spot.

Speaker 4

You know.

Speaker 3

Obviously last year it's the coaching staff and the quarterback play and such, and sure, and the competition because Keenan Allen and.

Speaker 4

DJ Moore were there.

Sure I get it.

Like that's fine.

I talked about all that on episode nine to ninety.

You can go look at that the gray Area Fantasy Football.

Speaker 3

But then this year it's like Okay, what, like, what exactly is the excuse right now?

Is it that Caleb Williams sucks that the route tree isn't great?

And you know, I saw some really good analysis from Matt Harmon talking about how they're getting him in motion and that's a lot to ask for, and like he's a little bit like his timing on his routes is a little bit off because he's in motion and he's a younger player, so he's not totally in sync with what's going on with the offense.

And then on top of that, obviously he's had this like this foot injury.

And I'm not saying that that Romadunza is a bad player at all.

I'm just it's just interesting to me that there are these excuses that exists.

And I really want to just see Luthor Burden featured a little bit more and running, you know, like they've been getting Rome more involved in the slot recently, they're moving them around a bit, and the production just hasn't been there, like period, it just hasn't been there, And I want to see what Luther Burden can do with with similar opportunity.

Speaker 2

Same And the other issue is that like they're winning, you know, so like they're.

Speaker 4

It's the run game though.

The run game's cooking, right, yeah, yeah, which is not great for the other fantasy part.

Speaker 2

It's like when the Eagles running game is cooking, it's like kind of sucks for everybody involved.

Speaker 4

I mean, my fourteen percent, Kyle Mnunga.

Speaker 2

Is not Yeah, all right, all right, when you like, let's say that Rome continues this trend, are you going to go back to that Reddit thread and just put.

Speaker 4

C No, of course not.

Speaker 3

I would never do something like that.

No.

Look, look the whole Roma dunze a mecha Buca thing.

I called it, you know, close to a fifty fifth thing back in May, and I went with a Buka because I thought that it was a good reroll situation.

And right now, if you look at most Dynasty rankings, you know, keep trade Cut has a Buka at wide receiver nine, a dunes Ay wide receiver sixteen.

People are sick of me talking about this.

I'm not gonna like dig into a deep but I do think that, like it's a really good because there was another trade in that same exact email, by the way, where I had traded Jaden Reid and both Colts quarterbacks for bo Nicks, and I think there might have even been a draft pick involved.

And in hindsight, it's really not as lopsided as everyone just assumed it was when it first happened, because Daniel Jones hit right.

I'm not saying that like we should evaluate all trades just based on the result, because we shouldn't.

The process is just as important.

But I do think that it's just a good example of, like why I did that Gray Area Fantasy Football episode in the first place, is that none of this stuff is as black and white as you think it is, and it never will be been with really good players, And so I think it's important to have that in mind as we, you know, discuss all this stuff and as you think about your.

Speaker 4

Own fantasy teams.

Speaker 2

All right, is the battery chargered?

Uh?

This is a Chargers post because you got Justin Herbert who is on track to play.

Speaker 4

But what does that mean?

Speaker 2

Also, what's it gonna be with Amarion Hampton this week as well?

So what's your And Quentin Johnson also has popped up on the injury report.

He wasn't practicing yesterday.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, look, there's there's no Jalen Carter.

Silly and that's really big because the last time, I think there's been two games.

Speaker 4

This is all from memory, so I could be wrong.

Speaker 3

Was Cowboys a game cow Boys in week one?

Yeah, because he he you know, had the penalty at the very beginning, got ejected at the beginning of the game.

And then Javonte Williams had a good game.

And then the other one was, if I remember correctly, was the Giants game, another primetime game, and then this will be a primetime game.

But the other one was the Giants game, and that's when Cam Skataboo went bonkers and what just ran all over them.

And so this is a really good This is a huge injury for the Chargers because you have Justin Herbert coming off that surgery.

He's banged up and you don't probably don't want him to throw that much.

Oh by the way, this big body in the middle of your defensive line is now out, and so they should be able to run the ball more or at least better than they otherwise would be able to be to be able to run.

And so you know, hopefully a Marion Hampton gets involved.

I think if Hampton plays this week, we're gonna see maybe like a sixty forty situation.

Yeah, it's gonna be pretty pretty split.

But then if a Mari and Hampton shows us what he's capable of doing, then I think next week in the Fantasy Playoffs, we're gonna feel better.

And I think that's a huge deal if we get Hampton this week, because then we can be confident enough in knowing what that workload might look like for Hampton in this single elimination tournament in the Fantasy.

Speaker 2

Playoffs, Hampton said this morning regarding the running back split with Camanie videl Me and him, definitely gonna be special.

Speaker 3

You know what's fun about this is that both guys I like this prospects and I'm very happy.

Speaker 2

For both of yea, and they're good guys, and they're good guys to guys.

Yeah, okay, this next thing is just nine just yeah, I mean what that he's back.

He's back, he's out of concussion protocol.

And we say all the time, it can't get any worse, and we actually I think we said that last week you can't get any worse with Max Brosmerk.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean it did.

I didn't think that, Like, don't say it didn't.

Like if you are a JJ.

The result was definitely worse.

The result was definitely worse.

Speaker 3

But there it was like his mistakes were were exemplified a little bit more than what we see with JJ McCarthy.

I'm just gonna say this, wait for the Bold Predictions piece for us to talk about JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 4

All right.

Quote someone said what is quoth in the comments?

Speaker 2

And I will just say, just go back and read some Edgar Allen Poe because quote the Raven Maybe this is a Lamar Jackson headline though, because he might not play this week.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I don't even know anymore, is my reaction to to anything Baltimore talked about Lamar on the mail Bag today.

Speaker 4

You know, I don't think you can drop him.

Speaker 3

But at this point, now that we have even more information since when I recorded that show, I would argue that you probably are not going to start him this week, like I'm gonna bump him down even more.

Speaker 4

I don't.

Speaker 3

I don't know if you can confidently rank him as a QB one right now, just given the injury and given how he's performed over the last the last few weeks, and if he goes off, he goes off, you know, and and you at least know that in the in the Fantasy playoffs, he could he give you that production, but right now it's just really tough to trust.

Speaker 2

We were talking a little bit in the chat and I said, if I ask you, is he the most kind of annoying player from just a fantasy perspective this year, because it's like he's off, he's on, you feel like you have to start him.

It's almost like a poison pill, you know.

It's it's just been rough with him this year.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean I think that of my in season.

It sounds like he's going to play today.

By the way, literally a minute ago, Oh nice.

Yeah, so Lamar will be in, But again I think that there's risk involved.

Speaker 4

We'll see where I have him ranked.

Speaker 3

I think I can tell you right now that before this all happened, I had him right below Jaydon Daniels at QB twelve this week, and I think Daniel's going to move up a little bit.

But I have them kind of in like the Brissett tier, you know, in that area, more highly volatile than a guy like Brissette.

But yeah, I mean it's a I look back and I think back on some of the fifteen transactions advice that I gave this year, and I'm pretty pleased with a lot of it, But by far the biggest miss of my season was Lamar by.

Speaker 2

Transaction falling knife kind of thing.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I don't even know.

I don't even know if I would have changed my process either.

Speaker 3

That's the problem is that, like it just it just didn't work out, and he was not as healthy as I thought he would be coming back.

But but yeah, it's a it's a rough situation if you have Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4

All right, let's move on today's data.

All right, what do we have here?

JJ?

Speaker 3

So I talked about this on the ten Trends episode this week, where wide receiver it just sucks this year.

Speaker 4

It sucks.

You know.

Speaker 3

I've often found getting feedback from players, especially now that we have the discord and stuff and I've you know, chatted with them for the last few years, I've found that a lot of fantasy managers look within only the scope of their one individual player that they have, you know, and they're like, this wide receiver is not performing well, you know, I can't, and they'll name a guy who's been like fine within the context of the position.

And I think that This really sheds light to that if you have wide receivers that have been struggling, you're definitely not alone, because there's only been like eight or nine wide receivers who have been pretty consistently good throughout the season.

And you could even argue some of them, like a Nico Collins, you know, has been more of a roller coaster than you would like.

But what I did was I looked at these different sort of lines in the stand of different wide receiver thresholds by points per game through the year since twenty eleven.

So I looked at the wide receiver six, the wide receiver twelve, the wide receiver eighteen, the wide receiver twenty four, thirty and thirty six, and I showed how many points per game those wide receivers had in that individual season.

Speaker 4

So, for instance, in twenty.

Speaker 3

Twelve, the wide receiver eighteen scored fourteen and a half PPR points per game.

Okay, the wide receiver twenty four that same year thirteen point six, and so on.

So as you move left to right with his chart, with his table, you're gonna get lower and lower numbers because those guys are ranked lower and lower right.

Speaker 4

So in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3

What I noticed was that the top six wide receivers, so wide receiver six this year is scoring eighteen point nine PPR points.

When you look at the last fifteen seasons, including this one, you'll find that that rank sixth out of the last fifteen seasons.

So it's an above average season for the top wide receivers.

JSN, you know, Rashi Rice obviously crushing it, Puka, et cetera.

They're all looking pretty good.

But then you look at the wide receiver twelve.

The wide receiver twelve right now is aj Brown.

He's averaging fourteen point seven PPR points per game.

That's the second lowest that we've seen over the last fifteen years.

Then you look at wide receiver eighteen, thirteen point four PPR points per game.

That's Wandel Robinson.

I believe that's dead last.

That is the worst wide receiver eighteen that we've seen since twenty eleven.

You go down this list, the wide receiver twenty four ranks fourteenth out of the fifteen seasons, the wide receiver thirty ranks thirteenth, and the wide receiver thirty six is twelve.

Now, I'm not here to give you, guys the answer as to why, because I don't have time to dig into the answer as to why.

I'm simply giving you the descriptive data to show that wide receivers are doing this right now.

Speaker 4

I think there's going to be reasons that some.

Speaker 3

Of you guys are listening right now and you're like, oh, this is why, Like this is why I believe this is happening.

Speaker 4

There are going to be reasons.

I just have not sat down and really dug into it.

Speaker 3

And I don't want to say something that I haven't really dug into enough because that's just not my style.

Speaker 4

So this is what's happening though at wide receiver.

Speaker 3

And this is another thing like if you have JSN, if you have one of these high end y amen Ra Saint Brown, whoever, like one of the guys Drake London when he's healthy, If you have one of those wide receivers, you've been gaining such an edge over your competition with those spots that if you have more average running backs and average tight ends or whatever on your team, like you are, like, those guys are massively helpful right now, uh, you know, in fantasy football.

So if I think an easy way to look at this too, is if like you look at your best ball exposure, if you if you did play you know a number of best ball lineups, because a lot of people will only have like two or three managed season long league teams.

If you look at your best ball exposure and you're having a good season, check and see if you got a lot of JSN Check and see if you got a lot of DeVante Adams or Pukaakua and I bet you you probably did.

Speaker 4

I bet you that's that's.

Speaker 3

One of the reason because you nailed or George Pickens, right, because you nailed the wide receiver that is actually giving you that edge and you didn't go after or maybe maybe you faded like a Zay Flowers type who isn't giving you that kind of ceiling, right, And so you know, it's a it's pretty interesting to see how that the top of the group is performing this year.

Speaker 2

Someone said that, Yeah, I mean it's like when you think about your your receivers, you're just hyper focused a lot of times on what on what you have?

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah, And like someone in chat is saying, grabbing running backs in the early rounds this year was my plan.

Speaker 4

It worked out well.

Yeah, I think that once August Hit.

Speaker 3

If you listen to some of the shows that I did with people and such, uh, you know, other analysts bringing this up just as much as I did.

But like this idea that you could easily go running back, running back and pound wide receiver because or even get Trey McBride in the third because the wide receivers in that like round four and five range were really really good, like and I and we all knew some of them were gonna pan out and we're gonna feel pretty good about them.

Obviously JSM was more of the third round guy.

And then you know, George Pickens has panned.

Speaker 2

Out, Adams Monte Adams, right, and and so, and we were actually talking about this earlier today.

Speaker 3

How I'm really one one thing that I am very happy about, you know, as mad as I am about, like the Lamar Jackson recommendation, the wide receiver recommendations in the draft guide, we were pretty on point with with these guys because it had Drake London, you know, it had Davante Adams.

Speaker 4

George Pickens was another one.

Speaker 3

And then you know JSN I ranked a couple of spots above ADP and.

Speaker 4

So hopefully like that helped too.

But yeah, like like.

Speaker 3

I have teams with Jamier Gibbs and Devon a Chan right now that are just absolutely annihilating and destroying.

Speaker 4

Christ McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 3

Yeah right right, yes, that's even better, right, And and so the other thing too, like I think a really really good example of a player that you could just look in the silo and be like, this guy's underperforming, but actually in the grand scheme has not been that bad.

Tetoro McMillan is probably the the such a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

We're like, no, he hasn't been this like massive massive league winner.

He's definitely gotten better, but he's he hasn't been this massive league winner.

But at the same time he has not been nearly as bad as you probably think, like nearly as bad compared to the rest of the position this year.

Speaker 2

Really curious how uh kl kl kale and really cares how much the kickoff changes affected this scoring.

Probably probably a good bit, probably decent bit, and it might be interesting to have some sort of study in the off season.

Speaker 4

JJ, I'm sure that's coming.

I'm sure it's it down.

Speaker 2

Let's put it down now that we've got you know, an extra extra toy in the the closet.

We can, we can have.

Speaker 3

That stuff, Like I said, like obviously that that that's crossed my mind plenty with with the the field position stuff.

I just I don't want to talk about something that I haven't researched, restaffed, and I just don't have time right now to research that stuff in depth.

Speaker 2

Yeah, like the Chimeri DK stuff.

You see that he leads the league.

Speaker 4

In all purpose yards.

Yeah, this is a great returner.

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2

And someone in the group chat in my group chat said, hey, I'm pretty sure that has to do with a kickoff role.

I was like, yeah, I'm pretty sure it does to all right, that's why we did not hire him for our senior analyst role.

Speaker 4

All Right, let's get onto it the late round, main events.

Speaker 2

All right, these are players you like more than consensus this week where I started with Jacobisett and uh, I'm guessing the injury doesn't affect the injuries do not affect the ranking at all?

Speaker 3

Here, I mean and will it might a little bit, but I'm still probably because I think it will affect the consensus ranking as well, I'll probably still be a little bit higher on him.

I mean, we saw him still be usable without Marvin Harrison Junior whenever keep time with the appendectomy.

So I'm not like massively concerned.

Since becoming starter, he's been QB seven twelve, ten, nine four seven to ten.

I have my QB nine this week consensus QB twelve.

Arizona has the highest pass rate over expected in the NFL.

They should be throwing the ball out against the Rams because LA obviously can stop the run and they're uh projected to I mean their big favorites, the Rams are in this game, so I could see a good negative game script a lot of passing.

I think Brissette is still a pretty strong play.

Speaker 2

They just need to be losing.

Basically, you don't want a close game.

If you know, if you're starting any of these guys, you want garbage time.

Just don't look at Brissett's stat line like in the first half.

Speaker 4

Yeah, just go to the four.

Just wait till the game's over.

Speaker 2

Wait till the game man's please, all right, you got Travis etn as you're running back.

Speaker 3

Yeah, to be honest with you, guys, like all four of these this week, you know the positions that I'm higher on the players that I'm higher on in each position, I don't feel great about three of them, like Travis Etn is one of them.

Speaker 4

I don't feel like.

I don't really know.

Speaker 3

Why I'm three spots higher than consensus this week, but it's a middle of the road matchup by justin points allowed.

Last week, we did see his peripherals drop, but I think part of that was probably game script driven and just the general vibes of that blowout against Tennessee.

I do think there's a little bit of Recncy bias probably going on with this ranking because he had five PPR points last week, but it is four straight before that he had fifteen plus BPR.

Speaker 4

Points, So I don't mind Etn.

Speaker 3

I'm not gonna like scream from the rooftops that like, I'm so much higher on him this week, but I am a little bit.

Speaker 4

Higher on all right.

Speaker 2

What about his teammting cover boy for this lead this week's late und Fanas football show, Jacoby Myers.

Speaker 3

I do like Jacoby Myers a lot.

That's probably the one player on this list that I feel pretty good about, as long as Parker Washington iseline, which I think is a true fifty to fifty right now, maybe you can look up and see if he's I think I.

Speaker 2

Saw where he was practicing or expected to practice.

Speaker 4

He had a limited practice yesterday.

Speaker 3

But then Liam Cohen came out today and said basically like, if he's out, you know, Dianmi Brown will step up and this guy will step up.

So, like, I don't know, the coach speak wasn't necessarily all rosie for Parker Washington.

But you know, Kobe Myers man twenty four percent target chairs over his last three eleven fifteen and twenty one PPR points sas Gardner, I'm assuming this seat.

Yeah, uh so him being out better matchup for him on paper.

The Colts have been really bad at stopping wide receivers in general, and I like the rapport and I like what I've seen from Jacoby Myers with with Trevor Lawrence.

So I think I think Myers is like one of those players right now that we have a little bit of an anchoring bias with him because he played so poorly with Vegas, But he's actually been kind of good in Jacksonville because he's a good wide receiver.

Speaker 2

Yeap just needed some sort of offense there, all right, This one is kind of like hold your nose, JJ, because you got the tight end and you've got Kolbe Parkinson.

You've got him ranked Tighten nineteen, consensus tight end twenty three.

Speaker 4

It's dart throw range.

Yeah, I.

Speaker 3

Didn't really have a tight end, so of my tight end rankings, I'd say anything after like sixteen or fifteen is just total dart throw hope for the best.

Speaker 4

That's what we're hoping for with Kolbe Parkinson.

Speaker 3

He had a nineteen percent target share though last week there's a high team total for LA is a top ten matchup in both adjusted points allowed and target share allowed to tight end.

So put it all together, maybe maybe he finds the end zone.

He's been like top twelve for the over the last month and end zone targets too.

Speaker 4

At tight end, he's a couple of them.

Speaker 2

All right, let's get to your bold predictions.

Speaker 4

Have you seen these yet?

No?

I have not.

Well that's fun.

Speaker 2

Because whenever I checked the document, these weren't there yet.

Speaker 4

So you got RJ.

Speaker 2

Harvey top five running back.

I'm not even gonna scroll to the other one other tab because I want to be surprised.

Speaker 3

So I know, I know I've voiced concerned about r J.

Harvey's playoff schedule on fifteen transactions.

But that's kind of why I was, like, you know, I essentially said, don't force it.

I'm just letting you know that the schedule is not very good in his usage from a snapshare perspective, is not ideal yet in right now, right So it could go in a lot of different directions.

But this week is not where the schedule's bad.

This week, they get Vegas.

It's a top five matchup for running backs by justin points allowed.

Denver's a big favorite.

There's some coach speak from from Sean Payton basically saying like, you haven't seen what RJ.

Harvey's capable of yet, you know some of the some of that kind of vibe.

But he has a sixty five percent running back rush share, nine percent target share over the last two games, almost identically, Like that's basically what you have to project based on what we've seen over the last couple of games.

So I could see this week being a pretty good RJ.

Harvey week, despite the fact, you know, he scored twice last week.

One of them was one of the most tilting fantasy experiences in my life.

Speaker 4

I don't know.

We won't get into that.

Yeah, we don't need to get into that.

Speaker 2

If you were in the live game, Banter Channel and Discord, you know, oh yeah, yeah it was Uh, it was.

Speaker 4

Just not fun for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 3

But like, I has nothing to do with my with me as an analyst, it's literally my individual leagues.

And then people are like, it's more of like the the Leo DiCaprio, like one of us meme, you know, like when.

Speaker 2

I get heat, tilts as much as I do.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys, Look, I tilt.

I want to win.

I'm very competitive.

Speaker 3

I want to win my fantasy leagues, and when things don't go my way over overtime.

Speaker 4

It's tilting.

Speaker 3

It's very frustrating.

But yeah, RJ Harvey this week.

I need him this week too.

So now I'm on the RJ.

Speaker 4

Harvey train.

Speaker 3

But top five, top five running back.

Look at your face with this next bold prediction, next.

Speaker 2

Pole prediction for the audio listeners.

I'm in shock right now because it's Minnesota drops thirty points on offense.

Speaker 3

Yeah, man, you got to go with some vibes based predictions sometimes, you know, although the vibes are pretty down with the offense.

Look, they're at home, they're in a dumb Washington is top eight as an opponent for every main position in fantasy football.

That's just I know, that's just fantasy.

But it goes to show how bad they are defensively and how porous they can be defensively.

What if JJ McCarthy comes back and he's a little bit you know, he's just he's just got a little bit more juice and he's just ready to go, and they and they post a thirty burger.

Speaker 2

I mean, it's Friday, and it feels like freaky Friday with us like just swapping positions right.

Speaker 4

Now with the uh, I'm just saying, man, I'm just like.

Speaker 2

Ifs you never know, love a little all right, speaking of look ahead way for a wire, he's first on your list.

I know it's my position, JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 3

JJ McCarty first on the list is a look ahead waiver wire because they get Dallas next week.

Dallas, isn't I mean, if if if there's one defense to get right with, it's it's the Dallas Cowboys.

So uh, JJ McCarthy against Dallas is the first one.

As I as I get to the next one, I'm gonna take a swig of my my water out of my.

Speaker 2

Okay, so people don't know you got so tilted that you throughout your water jug Moli Cox, which was is the water jugs game.

Speaker 4

So this is how like I was.

I was.

Speaker 3

I was composed enough to look at my wife while we were watching the Sunday night football game, and I said, is it Amanda?

I said, I need to throw something?

And I go and she goes, what And so I grabbed my jug and I opened my back porch.

Speaker 4

He takes the kids and just holds the.

Speaker 3

And I take my jug and I just chuck it outside because I just needed something.

Speaker 4

You know, you just need something to throw sometimes.

Yeah, it's healthy, yeah, yeah, right right.

Speaker 3

I wasn't going to do anything suid, like really stupid and and and so I I just got up grabbed it off the counter.

My backyard is pretty patio based, right, It's got like it's got pavers and stuff.

And I just chuck it and I just hear it hit and immediately know that Moli.

Speaker 4

Cox died, which is what we call the so what we call the jug.

And so I got a brand new one in the mail.

Don't worry, guys, and it's green.

It's pretty, isn't it.

This is Darnell Washington.

This jug that's awesome.

All right.

Speaker 2

So you've got Tyrod Taylor against Jacksonville, Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4

These are not this week, but next week.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, like Tyrod Taylor against Jacksonville should be fine enough.

Aaron Rodgers against Miami.

I'd feel best about Tyrod Taylor of those three.

But yeah, I mean I'm not like really chomping at the bit to like put them in my playoff lineup.

Speaker 2

You know what a handcuffs mean?

Are those running backs or quarterback handcuffs?

Speaker 4

Running back handcuffs, isn't it?

Speaker 3

So get all all your running back handcuffs, but non handcuffs that aren't as obvious.

Chris Rodriguez, he's getting more work on the grounds.

He's basically the early down guy.

Bam Knight and Amari de Marcado talked about them earlier.

Devin Singletary, we don't know that much about Tyrone Tracy because they're on by this week.

But he did have that like stinger, like h hip injury or something, you know, against New England.

Keaton Mitchell, who is a handcuff but also is getting a little bit more work, just a little bit.

Speaker 4

And he's obviously explosive.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 3

And then a wide receiver, Jaden Higgins is still out there in over fifty percent of leagues he's been He's been doing well.

Kayshan Boodie came back last week, scored a touchdown and saw like seventy five percent of the team's routes eighty.

Mitchell crushing it.

Talked about him like eight times on the show this week, so I don't have to get into that.

Same with Devon Veley.

He's still out there in a lot of leagues.

Luther Burden, I mean, broken record, I get it.

But now that a Dunze has this foot issue, I mean he's had this foot issue, to be fair, right now, that seems like it's coming to a head.

Speaker 4

I feel like we might we might see a little bit more Luther Burton.

You definitely want to be ahead on Luther Burton.

Speaker 3

I think of all these players, I mean maybe like an Ady Mitchell aside, but of all these players, I think Luth Burton is the most intriguing if a Dounza does not go, because we could hypothetically see a breakout and if that happens like you, you want to be a week ahead because that's going to be a blow your fab kind of kind of situation with Luther Burton, Ryan Flanoy after last last night with LAMB, and then Pat Bryant, who hopefully goes he had a hamstring issue.

Is limited, but we'll see what with Pat Bryant.

Harold Fannin.

They get Chicago next week, he's still out there in sixty.

Speaker 4

One crazy roster nine percent.

Speaker 3

I know, I know, well, he's getting a lot of volume, but he hasn't had that huge ceiling and that's why people, I think are not as into getting Fannine.

Speaker 4

This week too.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Darren Waller thirty seven percent rostered right now.

They get Pittsburgh next week, and then they get Cincinnati, and then on defense, the Jags get the Jets next week, the Bears get the Browns.

I like the Bear Browns, That's who I've been stashing in some leagues.

And then the forty nine ers get the Titans.

That's also a pretty good matchup.

But I think Chicago, you know, playing for something, you know, against Cleveland, and Cleveland's still been a pretty great defense or offensive stream against.

Speaker 4

That probably would be the pick.

Speaker 3

They'll probably end up being the fifteen transactions defense next week.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's good, and then the.

Speaker 2

Forty nine ers could get blown out though you just never know, thank you going.

If you're going by vibes, they could get blown out by the Titans next week.

Yeah, I mean that could be a bold prediction that I make next week.

If you're going with JJ McCarthy scoring thirty took at the forty nine ers next week.

Yeah yeah, Like is that anything crazier than saying jab forty nine ers coming off a bie?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, Okay, Okay.

Speaker 2

I'm just merely pointing out that that bold prediction of the vikings.

I'm not sure I can get past that.

Speaker 4

Someone said JJ needs to go in one of those rooms where you can smash things.

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Look, it wasn't like that, guys, Okay, it was just like a It was a very like like you got I like, I said, you gotta be kidding me.

Whenever he scored the touchdown in overtime and then I got up off the couch and I just looked and I saw the jug and then I looked up Amanda, my wife, and I said I need to I need to throw something.

Speaker 4

And I just grabbed it and threw it out the the back door.

Probably woke up a neighbor as it hit the pavers.

Speaker 2

Okay, all right, let's get on to the end of today's show.

All Right, we got the quad Box, which we have to choose four games, and I'm not gonna choose Titans against the Browns because honestly, who wants to watch that?

Speaker 4

Yeah, We're not doing Titans Browns.

No, I'm gonna put Bengals Bills first.

Bengals Bills is a really good one.

Speaker 3

Yeah, So Bengals Bills is one of the Quadbox games I am going to go with.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna go with.

Speaker 3

Because it's a really good, real football game.

I think like it's got a lot on the line.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna go with Bears Packers as as my top one.

Speaker 2

I don't know if you heard the the swol cast that I'm on this week, but in the overview, Pete made a joke about Patrick Corrane, our buddy who has been on the show before.

Yeah, Ross during both defenses was the background of that.

Okay, So Patrick Krane won two million dollars three years ago, Yes, and in the Underdog Bestball Millionaire and he was being chased by a bunch everyone was.

Speaker 4

This is week seventeen.

Speaker 2

So in basketball, everyone's stacking these Week seventeen games, and everybody's stacking this Bills and Bengals game.

And so you had a lot of teams in the final that were chasing.

Speaker 4

Him the mar Hammlin game.

Speaker 2

And then the mar Hamlin game happened and they just shut it down.

And it's the least people that were chasing him.

Speaker 4

They didn't get he was.

Speaker 3

He would still have been the favorite, though, right even if they played out that game.

Speaker 4

There were some I mean there there were.

Speaker 2

Some early scores and I don't know if he was the clear cut favorite at all.

Speaker 4

He was, yeah, but it was still It's not like he would have definitely lost, right, No, it's not like he's definitely lost.

Speaker 2

But like when you go from like you just think of like one player who scores like one two touchdowns and moves you you moves you down like four or five spots, you go from winning two million to like one hundred thousand, which hey, I'll take, right, you know I'll take.

Speaker 4

But still, yeah, so now we got a bills.

I didn't even think about we got the Bills Bengals again.

Speaker 2

Yeah, all right, you chose Bears Packers yep, and uh, I'm not gonna choose Commander's Vikings.

Speaker 4

I think I'm gonna go with uh.

Speaker 2

You know, I don't think I.

Speaker 4

Know what you're gonna do.

You're gonna go Texans Chiefs because you always take Chiefs.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna go with the Eagles Chargers, Okay, okay, just kidding, I'm going Texans Chiefs.

I do like Texans Chiefs.

That this whole narrative so this season being tilted on its head with like the Chiefs possibly missing the playoffs, you know that the Bills also be behind looking in like it's it's kind of fun and kind.

Speaker 4

Of a reasonable there's a reasonable, reasonable game for game.

I'm gonna go.

I'm gonna go with you know, every year we get a good one, seems like, you know what I'm gonna say, Chargers, Eagles, Steelers, Ravens Steelers, Steelers Ravens.

Oh gross, dude, Steelers Ravens.

Is we just talked about Lamar You like you're not one of the best, one of the best rivalries in the NFL.

Speaker 2

Yeah, sure, if you like thirteen to ten games.

I'm just saying you like thirty carries from the King for two touchdown.

Speaker 3

It's gonna be some drama in this game, and uh, you know, there's gonna be a lot of a lot of gensers that are probably gonna be upset.

Speaker 4

It's gonna be really fun to watch, all right.

Speaker 2

Uh like subscribe, leave a comment.

Well again, the comment I want you to leave is what is the perfect gift for a fantasy football guy?

Just take into the account what's the perfect gift for a fantasy football guy?

And we'll read the answer on next week's show.

We'll come up with something and we'll we'll give away a draft guide or or something to the to the winner.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, come up with some good ideas.

Also, you can come up with some ideas for for my wife.

Speaker 4

That would be helpful.

I'm just kidding for your wife, like for you to get your wife for me.

Speaker 3

Actually, I'm the pain in the butt every year because I never, like, I never have anything on my list for Christmas.

Speaker 4

So I'm not everything I want in you.

Yeah, I don't need.

I don't need.

What else do I need?

I got enough Dicky's tease, you know, I don't I don't need any more.

Of those, I'm good.

A few more pullovers.

Yeah, all right, you have any final thoughts, no, I hope everyone.

Uh.

First off, thank you guys for putting up my voice this week.

Speaker 3

I know it's a lot better today, but it was really rough and it was hard to record and all of that, and so hopefully the flow of the shows were fine.

Speaker 4

I just appreciate it.

Speaker 3

I also appreciate, you know, the feedback we've gotten all year and just the camaraderie of the season.

I know that the next month is going to be very, very stressful for your fantasy teams and for your hobby, and it is for for all of us.

I will definitely be having like a you know, tilt fests again.

Hopefully I don't throw this jug and lose that one.

Speaker 4

But you know, I get it.

Speaker 3

I'm I'm there with you, and I hope that I can at least, you know, finish this thing off and and give you guys help you guys get a fantasy title and hopefully the advice is helped throughout the season too.

Speaker 4

So just appreciate all of you guys for tuning in JJ.

It's helped me.

That's all you need to know.

Speaker 2

There we go, it's helped, it's helped me, and again my advice everybody else, just hang on, Just hang on Week fourteen, hopefully, if you've got Drake May you know, I've got a lot of Drake made teams.

You got Christian McCaffrey, got these teams out there.

Just hang on and try to scrap your way to the fantasy playoffs, and then you never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 4

So on behalf of JJ.

Speaker 2

I'm David and and we just thank you so much for supporting us, and make sure you like, comment, subscribe and we'll see you next time Week fifteen of the Late Round Fantasy Football Show.

Speaker 4

Peace all,

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