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Speaker 3Saincts, serious Noise and hauntings.
Speaker 4Stargards and the skull and Bones.
Speaker 3Most celebrities are probably.
Speaker 2Can so if you're feeling all alone, crack a beer and get stone.
Speaker 4Welcome you to the podcast Strange Brow.
Speaker 3We're here to entertain you.
We're entertain you.
Speaker 5It's the best kid's strange.
Speaker 4Welcome back to the show, everybody, Welcome back.
I'm your host, Tom kat Ak, Tom Thompson, the Raptilian, Welcome to Strange Brew podcast.
And who do I have joining me?
Speaker 3I hate just saying Billy because you got such a long intro to you.
I need to be Billy aka Billy something else.
I know I always find that Billy anyways.
Speaker 4Billy Sweek, Billy Boy, Yes that's Billy.
And who else am I joined by?
Speaker 6I get to be a great guest today.
Speaker 4Yes you are, Jeff.
Speaker 5I'm just playing hit.
I thought you were.
Speaker 4Yah, that's what I was in.
Yeah, so we'll be talking about Jeff the talking mongoose.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 4This is a We've had fans asked for us to cover this.
It's one of the strangest, weirdest, most bizarre, hilarious hauntings.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 4But I want to address something first, so we gotta We got a review, and if I noticed these things, I want to discuss them and talk about them so the fans, UH understand where we're coming from when it comes to a lot of this stuff.
I'm pretty sure I've talked of this fan before, I think, but you know, they left a review and then I'm gonna I wrote something down in a response in a sense.
So I'm listening to pod for years.
It's a cozy place to settle in for conspiracy theories and true crime.
Lately, Tom has been on the line with a lot of convos, especially the native land thing, and this is probably just after because I just released the uh stuff about the mass graves with the teacher who got fired for saying it was a lie, which it was.
The RCMP investigated and found out that everything that they said about it was a lie.
You know, and I have my own views about things, and you know, so political influence, et cetera.
I have watched the group change and watched Tom change the most, and still trying to decide if I like the new Tom let alone the new pod, even though it is the exact same in my reality, it's the same thing.
The Stranger Family has always been one I feel myself in, but now these new opinions, a lot of them are just actually based in fact that the group has.
I don't know how much longer I could listen.
Patreon is a good way to make money, but all of the stuff that they made the show Elite, which is some of our most drunken, ridiculous episodes, are on there.
The ogs that have listened to this pod since the beginning, aslong with myself would appreciate more of those episodes.
If you're thinking about listening, and it says try like these episodes.
Heaven's Gates, Amneyville Harp Jeffrey Dahmer, and it says, please show the boy some love.
They deserve it.
Listen with an open mind.
Everybody love everybody.
The show has changed.
I missed the old show.
This new show minus Billy and Aaron, so obviously just me has changed for the worst.
I'll be back when old Tom is back.
I've been listening since day one, but I can't but I can't love you boys for real.
And so I wrote sing in response, because you know, I have different opinions.
I've learned things, and the show did start off as you know, a comedy show in some regard, but it changes and things like that.
Right, So this I was like, what is going on?
I have to find where I wrote this down?
So I said, I wrote this down.
So, first off, to anyone who supports Strange Brew Podcast in twenty eighteen, I appreciate you truly.
I don't care who you are, what country you come from, or what your background is or what group you align with.
If you enjoy the show and support what we do, I've got nothing but love for you.
Stranger Podcast has always been a place where everyone is welcome as long as you can come with an open mind.
In a sense, of humor.
The show starred as two guys getting drunk in abasement, laughing book conspiracies, ghosts, cults, true crime, and the weirdest stories you could find.
The raw, chaotic energy is still part of the show today.
But I'm not the same person I was back then.
None of us are.
I've grown, I've learned more about life, I've lived more life, I've talked to different kinds of people, done real research, read things outside of the mainstream, and for my own opinions based on my own experiences, not just what I was told to believe.
That's what growth is supposed to look like.
People don't grow by hiding from uncomfortable ideas or refusing to question anything.
People grow by listening, learning and digging deeper and beginning to and willing to admit that they can have their minds changed.
And that's what exactly happened to me.
I started realized that a lot of the narratives were fed don't add up.
And the part of the reason I started the show in the first place was to talk about these things that interested me.
The strange, the dark, the controversial, the stuff that people are told, not the question, so yes, if I have a platform.
I'm going to use it sometimes to push back against mainstream narratives that everybody else is scared to touch.
That's not hate, that's not targeting anyone.
It's questioning power structures, questioning stories that don't make sense, and refusing justin not along because you're not supposed to talk about it.
The truth is to be exposed.
The truth is supposed to make people uncomfortable.
Lies are what kept everybody calm and quiet.
At the same time, the soul of the show has not changed.
Most of the episodes are still the classic strange brow madness, cryptids, paranormal stories, true crime, dark humor, weird history, and the bizarre corners of the world.
That's why we love what we do, that's what the fans love listening to.
But so often the real world topics bleed in because that's a part of who I am now, part of what made this show what it is and naturally grown into.
I'm not going to avoid topics just because it defends someone, especially when the entire purpose of the show was to explore these strange questions.
We're not here to We're not going to be able to please everybody.
We never have, But leaving a two star review as they did doesn't help the show.
When you claim to have loved it, it actually hurts what you say you enjoy.
I respect your opinion, I respect the support since day one, but the show has to evolve just as people revolve behind it.
But I refuse to pretend to be the exact same person as I was in twenty eighteen just to keep everybody comfortable.
Stranger Podcast will always be a place for you to laugh, learn and to question and to dive into the darkest and weirdest stories.
If you're here for the ride, I appreciate you for your unsure about the new direction.
Stick around, because the heart of the show will always be the same honesty, curiosity, dark humor, pushing boundaries and refusing to stay silent just because someone says we shouldn't talk about it.
And that was the whole thing of Like, if I have the platform to do it and I start to question these things, I'm like, yeah, I don't believe Canada is stolen Land.
I'm sorry if that makes people uncomfortable, but I'm not going to like shy away from these topics that I'm passionate about because it might offend somebody.
You know, you guys feel me.
What do you guys think about this?
Speaker 3Just to circle back, because I'm reading the review here too.
A lot of what you said was are you talking about the one on Apple podcast?
Speaker 4Yeah, though I just read the review for you, I.
Speaker 3Understand, but you read the old good review and then the only edit was just you changed.
Speaker 4Yeah, I know that's that that well, I.
Speaker 3See, Okay, so I don't I don't know if it was all about all of.
Speaker 4That, No, but but it's essentially saying that, like because some of the political aspects of the show bleed into it, of the stuff going on the world, you know, and you know, there's people like there is people now that enjoy that we push the limits and to be honest, like, I'm not gonna, like I said, shy away from topics and and at the beginning of the show when we did this, me and Billy did try to not touch upon certain subjects and we try to kind of play the field and and have it more pulled back a bit.
But then as I got older, I'm like, I've always had these opinions about the government about certain things.
They've evolved over time, but I'm not going to shy away from it because and this was I think in regard to the political aspect of it and the whole thing of like what Canada is and native land and all that stuff.
And you know, I just want to address it because like I don't need to share the same page.
We don't have to all the show have the same opinion.
That's not gonna be a fun conversation to begin with anyway.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 4But also if there's something that's blatantly a lie that people don't want to talk about, I'm I will more likely talk about it.
The more that people tell me not to do something is the more I want to do it.
That's I've never liked authority.
I never liked people telling me what to do.
And all the stuff that I speak upon, I believe I can prove as the truth and the factual thing, like you know what I mean.
So I'm and now I have the platform and the thing is at the end of the day.
Uh, those episodes sometimes get the most downloads, like the Residential School one where we talk about the mask graves.
Now they were a hoax, which I'm sure this is kind of referring to.
Is like some of the guests that I'm choosing to have on the show and discussing the topics I'm choosing to discuss.
They It's gotten a lot of downloads, a lot of people like to learn this stuff, a lot of people like to question what's going on, and uh and look at now.
Now we're doing a strange haunting case.
Right, So there's gonna be controversial stuff that I everybody's gonna like my opinion on.
But that's not why the show was started.
It was started to question these things.
And yeah, not everyone needs to agree.
Everybody do love everybody.
But also I don't have to agree with some people out there.
They don't have to agree with me.
That doesn't mean they have to like the hate the show because I have a take that they don't like.
You know what I mean?
You feel me gang anyone else of anything?
You have anything to say, Aaron, what do you think it is true?
Speaker 5I always try and stay out with that stuff.
It would agree, not because I'm trying to like sit on the fence running, but I think a lot of people And I don't know if that's what he means by that review or whatever, But I don't know if it means like, oh, if I come on to listen to an episode about chef to talking monghost and I have to hear about the immigration policy.
I don't want to hear that.
Yeah, if that's what he means, I get that.
I think it's a chick even or whatever, chick whatever.
Even though I do that sometimes, like I listened to something that's titled a certain way or whatever and then start talking about like what's going on Inland, and I'm like, ah, I wanted listener to get away from that.
But then you do that too, though I know that's the thing.
There's times where like we're.
Speaker 4Talking about amusement parks and then that goes into like Indian amusements.
Speaker 5I have a thing for Indians.
Speaker 3Well it's hard, right, It's hard when something you keep thinking of keeps splicing and blending in.
Speaker 4And it'll be coming up on this episode too, So everyone's aware because jeff to Nakibobos is from India.
Uh and uh.
But like at the end of the day, I love the fans and we don't have to agree on everything.
I wanted to address that because I'm sure people have seen a change in me, and it's because I've chosen to look into things and I noticed even on older episodes, I'd be like, well, we did this, and we this, and trying to like blame essentially just this white guilt thing that has plagged I think people that are European for decades now, and I'm refusing to do that.
I'm not gonna feel bad for things I had nothing to do with.
I'm not going to feel bad for questioning things that are forced down our throat by a government that's tyrannical.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not going to care about things that might offend somebody.
The truth is the truth, and the thing is, at the end of the day, the truth is supposed to offend a lie.
It's supposed to be offensive to the lie being told.
Quote that Billy, rite it on your tombstone.
Speaker 3That's not what I'm putting.
Speaker 4On here, lies Billy.
I love beer.
Speaker 5Speaking.
Speaker 4What is everyone drinking on?
So I know it's not we're not there yet.
We're not there yet.
But uh, I was at I was at the LCBO, the lc UK, and I saw a white No, I saw a white Russian and I was like, I've never actually really tried a white Russian that actually sounds pretty good.
And then the chick some you know, there's funny because I go viral and people make fun of my nose piercing, but this chick's face was just full of nose piercings.
Like she's like three on one side, one the eyebrow, five up top and where like with blue hair, you know, just a kind of a goth.
And she's like, she's like, we have the eggnog one.
And I was like, okay, oh do you And then she's like, yeah, it's over there, and I was like, I've never had this one.
It's and I was like, sure, I'll get that.
So I got the eggnog one like carbage.
It's pretty dang good.
It's made with vodka, which is like gluten free vodka sponsor us.
I'm sipping some one hundred proof barbon on a Sunday.
Speaker 5I'm on the old classic moves.
Speaker 4Yeah you're having a Heidie.
Speaker 5I'm having a move.
Speaker 4I also have this next I I just just the things get me, like the covers Roman candle look so dop.
Speaker 3Is that it's imperiod the most wild I p a craft beer market I've ever seen in my fucking life, Like anybody in their dog is making cans of just whatever the fun they want.
Speaker 4Yeah, I know it's real, it's wild.
Speaker 5All right, let's do like a strange brew we got it love to one day?
Speaker 4What would you call it?
Speaker 5Aaron, I don't know, have to be something ridiculous, thought right, I was gonna stay something.
I need to keep my mouth.
Speaker 4It's uh it just says regrets, but it's spelt wrong.
Speaker 5I was gonna say something to do with Indians.
Speaker 3But yeah, I know I wanted to hear it.
Speaker 4Does a mohiedo ice th hc vape count that is?
That is you're brewing something, right, That's the whole idea.
So this is like, by far the strangest case.
I don't know if you guys watched the movie I try to get Billy to I tried to say, I said, of course you didn't.
I sent it to both you guys.
It was it was interesting.
I didn't know there was a movie about this.
What you like this How to Kill a never mind?
Speaker 7Yeah?
Speaker 4Sorry, and uh so, uh you know, and I there was a movie.
I didn't even know about this.
So I've heard about this case for a while.
We've had fans that want us to cover it.
And uh, and I was like, Okay, let's we gotta get we got I get into this.
I'm excited and so I'm like I'm looking it up and then I see this movie with Simon Peg and I was like, wow, this is kind of cool.
And then so I washed it and it's like it's it's a little slow, and it's like it's not bad, but it's like a kind of a comedy where he investigates, he's one of the investigators, and then you know he's he doesn't believe, but then at the end he kind of thinks he does.
And it was it was decent.
Did you see the trailer?
Aaron?
At least you guys suck man?
Why do I even do it?
What?
Speaker 5What do I do?
Speaker 4You know what?
Speaker 3Oh, you have like an hour and a half of free time this week?
How about do you want to watch a movie about a monga for.
Speaker 4A show that you're supposed to participate in?
I have a kid, man, I have a baby.
Speaker 5And the minute I looked at it, like the like post or my MDB thing, I was like, wow, this looks it wasn't that that it was wholesome.
Actually, how much are we going to have to use this from that one.
Speaker 4I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3Happen.
Speaker 5Was I have this really nice opinion about this, yeah, and then I have another opinion that.
Speaker 4What the fuck Thomas.
And it's like, and the thing is, it's funny that some of the opinions I have I've always had, but in the beginning of the show I tried not to talk about it.
We'd literally be like, oh, yeah, well and joke about what we shouldn't mention that or whatever.
But I just I just don't care anymore, Like I'm not gonna hold my tongue.
Speaker 5Way more polarizing than that.
Like there's people that would talk to me about things now that, like I said, like five six years ago, I would have never even yeah, assumed that they would even.
Speaker 4Well, and then you have both sides like a cult.
They're like and I don't believe in any side.
So it is very culty where you have to believe in everything I believe.
And if you even step this far over here, you're a Nazi.
You're a colonizing Nazi, biggot racist piece of tray.
Like that's literally how far gets you take one toe into the other side, and they're like, no, no, you can't even say.
You can't even say my heart goes out to you, my heart goes out to you.
You know, I can't even do that.
So funny.
Why does Jeff Graphic look like a Pikachu mushroom out of Yeah, well he's a little weird little mongoose, a little scary little mongoose.
Billy, can you give us some fun facts about mongooses to start this?
Speaker 3Learn about mongoos.
Speaker 4Mongoose.
Speaker 3Mongoose love the snakes, like the venomous snakes.
Speaker 4Like, oh yeah, I've seen videos of that.
Speaker 3They're not even immune to venom.
They just like fighting them.
They're just fast.
Oh, I thought this was cool.
They talk in full sentences like Researchers found that, like mongooses, like you, structure vocalization, like combining different sounds to communicate things like warnings, food discoveries, coordinating group movements, stuff like that.
But they'll just be like one or two noises like a regular animal would.
It's like a full fledged sentence at a time, structured.
Speaker 4Oh weird.
Speaker 3I thought it was kind of cool.
Mongoose they like the sun bathe.
Yeah, that's cool.
They're big sun bathers.
Yeah, there's not that many cool.
Speaker 4Well, I guess everyone out of facts, all right.
Speaker 3That's cooperative family life.
Many species live in tight knit groups where babysitting is shared across mongoose.
Speaker 5Somebody says something that I'm like, I need to not make any reference to listen.
Speaker 6It was.
Speaker 4It was.
It's one.
It's one fan, you know.
And if you are a fan of the show and you like that we're more controversial, please give us a five star rate and review, please help us out, because you know, like soon, you mean.
Speaker 3We're so much better.
It's been, like I actual minimum, at least two years since you've said rape and review.
I know, I actually every episode.
Speaker 4I actually think that the show has only gotten better.
In my opinion, We've gotten more downloads.
People are more tuning in more, you know, And like I said, and everybody used to agree with everything I say.
If you believe that, you know, if you believe Candice stolen land, I believe that China is Mongolian land.
Okay, give it back to the Mongolians.
Now they need reparations.
Now Mongolians need help.
Speaker 3Man.
Speaker 4They're out there living on the streets being barbarians.
You know.
They they try to climb the Great Wall.
They couldn't do it, you know.
And then Ching Chong, Ching Chong, Qing Chong came over and to start, Hey, there is a place in China.
There is a place in China called ching Chong, China, and it has it's a pretty crazy city though.
They have like, like, uh, what's that called trains that are like up in the air and they're floating around the city and shit like that.
Ching Chong China real place.
You can't have that.
And then tell me not to say Ching Chong when I'm talking about Chinese people.
Speaker 3Okay, sure, I thought it.
Speaker 4For it's like a city.
Okay, Aaron, give let's get into it.
Speaker 6I am a ghost in the form of a mongoose.
I have hands, I have feet, And if you saw me, you drop a fright.
Jeff nineteen thirty two.
Speaker 4Did you figure it out?
Just click on options.
Speaker 5Drop a freight, drop a.
Speaker 4Fright, Yes, you would drop a fright.
The isle of Man has always always feels like it's holding its breath, the place carved by no Now we can't hear you at all.
Oh my god, why every live stream?
Okay, the islive man always figured out, Aaron, you can do it.
The islive man always feels like it's holding its breath.
A place carved by wind, fog, and superstition, where the Celtic myths survive, not in the books, but in the soil itself.
Fishermen swear that fairies watch the tides.
Farmers leave offspring offerings for house spirits known as maginery, veggie veggie roads twist into darkness.
Don't know what that is.
The seahammers and the cliffs like a warning.
But in the early nineteen thirties, something happened on the island that felt of odd, stranger, and more intelligent than any fairy tale, something that blurred the lines between haunting and hallucination, between animal and spirit, between folklore and cosmic absurdity.
At an isolated farmhouse called the Castion's Gap, something began to speak.
Not whispers, not ghostly sighs, not rattling chains.
A voice, a clear, sharp, articulate voice, shrill like a child, mocking like a prankster, and intelligent enough to hold conversations about gossip, travel, religion, and death.
It's called Jeff with a G because it insisted on proper spelling.
The entity that lived in the walls of the Irving Farmhouse became one of the most baffling paranormal cases ever documented.
For years, it taunted, entertained, threatened, and mimicked, and spied and sang its way into legend.
It attracted investigators, journalists, skeptics, spiritualists, and police.
It left behind a record testimony, physical traits, witness accounts, strange prints, and even a lost ghostly recording destroyed in the blitz.
That sucks that we lost the recording the Irving Farmhouse.
Yes, like the Irvings.
Speaker 3Who's the Irvings, Like the people that own the entire East Coast of Canada, Like Irving Gas.
Speaker 4Now it's over on the other side of the world.
Speaker 5Ah, the original Irving.
Speaker 4What you're about to hear?
We're gonna get into every detail of this.
Jeff the extra clever mongoose, Jeff with a G.
Do you know I mean Jeff was with a G Geoff we used to call my buddy, Yeah, yeah, Gff.
Try to get Aaron there you go.
Okay, now you are, Jeff.
We're switching roles.
Speaker 6Am I am I Jeff for just the entire episode.
Speaker 4I don't I don't think that's necessary.
I think just the quotes, and then you can give your thoughts also instead of just being Jeff James.
Irving once had a life beyond wind beaten Stone walls.
A former piano salesman.
Billy loves pianos, don't you.
Speaker 3I'd be a piano salesman.
I'd be moving grand pianos and people's people's apartment buildings a piano.
Speaker 4That's why I asked you about it.
Speaker 3What a horrible experience, I know.
Speaker 4Imagine being a piano salesman.
Do you like have a huge truck with his pianos on the side, you carry them?
I got it's fine.
Here's this piano, ma'am.
It's like that backs breaker.
He was articulate, well traveled, lively, a man who enjoyed the sound of his own voice.
Sounds like somebody, what the fuck?
Speaker 5Same mine?
Speaker 3He can recognize it.
Speaker 4Yeah, I understand.
I talk a lot.
That's the true.
Speaker 3Destroy the child.
Speaker 4I don't know why I pushed that one.
I was like, figure it out, so you know, and then so, but you know.
Financial collapse ruined him.
By the late nineteen twenties.
He dragged his wife and his daughter to one of the most remote points of the Isle of Man a lonely battered farmhouse perched above Dolby, Darlby, Dorish, Dorish Cash.
The farmhouse looked like something I had abandoned by time.
No electricity, no heat beyond his sputtering fire, no neighbors for miles, walls thin, his matchboards and rattled in the wind, and attic that stretched long and dark, and its beams blackened with age, coated for with for centuries, with dust, rooms that echoed strangely, as if it was being pulled and carried through unseen cavities.
Even before Jeff, visitor said, the farmhouse felt aware.
Margaret James wife, this was quiet and deeply religious sensitive.
That's a most women are anxious and wary of gossip.
That kind of woman who held her emotions, her emotional world tightly inside.
Oh so she's she's.
Speaker 3One of those, you know, it's one of those tom.
Speaker 4You know, like the ones that hold in their emotions and then they poison their husband in the night, you know, or like here's this delicious steak meal and it will be your last you.
Speaker 3Know, got rap poison?
Yeah, what's that drug?
What's the what's the regular one?
It's on the tip of my tongue usually sign it yeah yeah.
Speaker 4So then there was Vori, the word very weird.
One of the weirdest names I've heard for a girl.
Her name is Ory born in nineteen eighteen.
A strange, solitary girl with a vivid imagination and uh a quiet intensity?
Do you have a quiet intensity?
Billy just stare intently at the camera.
Billy, did it get?
Speaker 6Get?
Speaker 4Did get a green screen?
But it's so small in his background you can't.
It's just so funny.
Some of the I'm like, nothing ever works out.
Speaker 3Would you like to see get the ship?
She didn't tell me it wasn't gonna come with a stand, so I try to.
Speaker 4So funny, it just looks so yeah.
Speaker 5So.
Speaker 4She was smart, artistic, observant, but above all isolated.
Her only real companions were animals and the hill she wanted.
Investigators would claim later that if a poltergeist or tulpa or psychic phenomenon were going on to anchor itself to a person, it would be a child like her, And then the family dynamic, a proud father unraveling, he seemed to be kind of a drunk, a mother on the edge of nerves, and a daughter withdrawn deeper into her own inner world and a home acting like a giant wooden throat ready to speak.
Something was coming.
It was coming hard, and it didn't start with a voice.
Speaker 3You did all of that sentence on purpose, Yeah, you did.
Speaker 4That started with a voice.
It started scratching.
By the autumn of nineteen thirty one, the Irving family sound moving through the house.
At first, there was kind of a noise you can dismiss, tiny claws scuddering inside the walls, the pattern of what sounded like a rat darting behind wooden panels.
But this rat had weight, purpose, and rhythm.
James heard it first, and it scullyed or scullied around.
Then above the bed, the under the floorboards.
He set traps, nothing touched them.
The sound became more deliberate scratching that traveled, shifting rapidly from one end of the room to the other.
Sometimes it scrambled scampered so fast it sounded like tiny little feet were running up the walls themselves.
Then came the mimicry.
One night, James growled like a dog to scare it, and then the growl came back, so scary the creature back.
It barked, bark, bark from inside the walls.
He came out a sharp bark, not muffled, not animal like, but accurate.
James later wrote, I growled like a dog, and the thing growl back.
I barked, and the bark back.
Then it laughed.
It laugh was so thin, high pitched, mocking, unmistakable voice.
Eric can give me a laugh?
Yeah, so weird.
This is the strangest.
Yeah, Darpnese defund mongoose to human translator.
Yeah, that is up there, so you know.
And then he moved.
The voice moved in say, in one place.
It ran and climbed.
It scuttled like a squirrel made of sound, one moment behind a cardboard cover, then raced to the attic, then whistled behind Margaret's chair in the kitchen.
Sometimes the voice would whisper directly behind them, even when the space was empty.
Then one night, with a s wind shaking and the shutters of the house creaking like an old wooden ship, the entity cried out, furious and terrified.
Speaker 6Let me alone.
I am terrified.
Speaker 4Supposed to have Actually it's like a it's oh, it's I don't think you can do it.
It says it's from India.
We'll get there because I listened to a couple.
Speaker 5One of them sound English and sounds like something I've never heard before.
Speaker 4Yeah, I know most of it.
It's like I will just go with like a kind of English because according to an Indian person, if they if they live in England long enough, they can just become British.
Speaker 3What I want to hear the Indian accent English?
I know I need to hear from you with your Irish accent, an Indian accent, with the more I need to hear it.
Speaker 4That's not working.
Speaker 6Let me alone, Let me alone, I am frightened.
Speaker 4Oh that's way too high, bitch, Jesus.
Uh yeah, so very strange.
Though it wasn't a mimic.
It was like an animal cry.
It was a person trapped in the walls.
It wasn't like an animal cry.
It was like a person.
The Irving's froze.
James searched the house lantern in hand, nothing but not a footprint, not a scrap of her, and not a place where anything could hide, but just a voice.
Eventually, the voice grew bolder, it spoke more often, it responded to questions, and then one night, when James asked it.
What the hell it was?
The voice answered with pride.
What is happening?
Speaker 5Eric Al?
Speaker 4Did you get did you?
Are you in the script?
Speaker 5Hello?
Am I behind?
Everybody?
Speaker 4I don't know what it was.
Are you behind?
What do you mean you're behind?
Speaker 3Why?
Speaker 4What's happening?
I don't think it.
Aaron's even reading it?
Speaker 2Oh?
Speaker 3What happening?
Speaker 6Disappear?
Speaker 4What is going on?
Why every time that we do these live things, all of a sudden there's something crazy happening.
Speaker 3Oh, like the the top guy of the Irving family for the oil.
Speaker 4Interesting, Aaron is being haunted by the mongoose.
Yeah, maybe that's what's happening.
Because what happened to you.
Speaker 3The Indian accident?
It was too perfect.
Speaker 4It was an Indian.
No Indian guy in the Internet company was like, no, no, no, you can't do that.
No, so uh, I want to wait for Aaron because but whatever so he spelled, He spelled it out, insisting on the spelling as if it came from itself.
I'm gonna see if he's my name, my name, Jeff, so my name Jeff God?
Speaker 3Yeah, your turn.
Speaker 4You know we're waiting for you.
It's your turn.
Give me some more monse facts while we wait.
Speaker 3This is I skipped over.
Speaker 4A lot of them are dumb, any inture, more interesting ones.
Speaker 3Tool users, rare but impressive.
Certain species, like the Egyptian mongoose, have been seen breaking open eggs by throwing them against rocks.
Speaker 4That's nice, that's cool.
Speaker 3Interesting Heroes of old literature, famous story Riki tiki tavvy mongoosa, classic literary hero not always welcome guests.
They're pretty fucking pretty pissed off if new people come into their Oh, they form escort bonds, not like the escort you're familiar with.
Yes, pubs and some species paired with unrelated adult.
Again, an unrelated adult that he will escort him, he'll feed, he'll protect, he'll train them for months.
I don't know what he's training them for.
To fight a fucking cobra?
Speaker 4Where is Aaron?
He's typing?
God, I hate doing these live specials, and every time something stupid happens, my internet to cut down.
Sure, I don't know what he's gonna say.
Speaker 3Scary, This is a scary fact.
Speaker 4Scary Internet.
One second, Okay, we're waiting for you.
Speaker 3They can kill venamous snakes with shocking speed.
Speaker 4Wow, how shocked can tell?
Speaker 5How long.
Speaker 3They sometimes eat the snake while the snake's still alive.
Speaker 4Well, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3They engage in mobbing When threatened, mongoose troops will collectively swarm the enemy.
Speaker 5Can you bring up some pictures of mongooses the mongoos?
Speaker 4What is happened?
What Aaron?
What's happening?
Speaker 5Hello?
I'm currently on my phone?
Why the internet?
Speaker 4Why?
Speaker 5Because my home internet is not working right now?
Speaker 4How long are we going to wait for?
Speaker 2You?
Speaker 5Just continue and I will sit here like zord on until this is ready.
Speaker 4Okay, I guess I guess them.
Okay, Well I got something.
Bring up some mongooses.
Speaker 3There's some mongoos.
Speaker 4God, every time we do anything.
Well, they're pretty cute.
They're like a weird little rat creature thing.
Speaker 3They're terrified.
Look at them.
Speaker 4Oh weird.
He's like, oh that's my body.
You just ate?
Speaker 5Yeah?
Speaker 4What is he?
Speaker 3What is?
What's being eaten?
Speaker 5Right now?
Speaker 4I have no idea, but they're.
Speaker 3Yeah, they're normals.
They take down fucking snakes, are fast as fun boy, weird.
They're kind of cute, though this one looks like fucking it's gone.
Speaker 5They're love they love.
Speaker 4How's your internet?
Bars?
Speaker 5Currently on zero for home internet, man.
Speaker 4What this always happened?
All right?
Speaker 3Well, who are you with?
Do you have like your own?
Is it different internet providers out there?
Speaker 5Yeah?
What do you have?
Speaker 3What's it called.
Speaker 5Virgin Media?
Speaker 4That's gonna be like U old Darby or something was.
Speaker 3It's still like we have Virgin Mobile here.
Speaker 5Oh yeah, so it's the same company then Richard Brunson whatever his company?
Speaker 4Oh that guy.
Speaker 3If they don't provide internet here, that's weird.
Speaker 5When they're already provided internet here.
Speaker 4But it looks like, yeah, we've never had this.
Speaker 3Problem month He goes, Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 4I've never had a problem where Aaron's internet's cut out like this.
Speaker 8My internet has literally never gone out.
Speaker 4I don't think ever nothing.
Speaker 3I know Tom's internet has a thing of fucking other people's up.
Speaker 4Yeah you think so, So let's carry on.
I guess he spelled out his name and sessing and insisting that the spelling of his as his name.
Uh you know, it's it's his name right.
When the when the family asked Jeff who Jeff was and what he was he came and where he came from, he told him a story that sounded half truth, sound half insanity.
And I will do it because Aaron can't.
Speaker 6I am an abstra extra clever mongoose.
Speaker 9I was born in New Delhi, India in eighteen fifty two.
I was hunted by Indians, shot at and I escaped by hiding behind legs.
I am a marsh mongoose, dinger ninga ding ding.
Speaker 4Sorry, oh no, Aaron Scotten.
Oh there he is still there.
So, but his identity shifted constantly.
The next week he claimed, I.
Speaker 6Am a ghost in a formable mongoose.
Then I am in the fifth dilemension.
Then he said I am the eighth wonder of the world.
Speaker 4Then also he started bragging, and he was.
Speaker 6Like, I can split the Adam.
I am so smart, says my I've all they tech jobs.
Speaker 10Yes, oh man, yes, I ruined Eron's Internet.
Speaker 6Do you want to make fun of my people?
Speaker 5I have to call you on the hot lane to get like, oh my.
Speaker 4God, there's no internet.
You have no Internet.
Speaker 5I have internet on this ship.
Speaker 4Wow, this is terrible.
It's funny.
We need the shove it in your phone.
The Irvings realized that they were not dealing with a mere haunting.
This was something that changed that changed shape linguistically, emotionally, and psychologically a trick mind, trickster mind wearing the mask of an animal.
But the truly terrifying part who wasn't who Jeff was?
It was what Jeff knew.
He knew conversations whispered privately, privately, He knew about what neighbors argued about last night.
What were they arguing about that?
Speaker 3He noticed they don't play smells like curry neighbors, neighbor's house.
Speaker 4Everybody, Sorry, they're British billy he knew.
Speaker 3Oh sorry, sorry, that's what they're mad about.
They're mad that the neighbor's house smells like curry.
Speaker 5Well actually, at this point there was there any difference between British and you.
Speaker 4Know, because you can't just like if you show up on the soil.
Yeah, you know, so, uh, he knew when the bus driver misplaced his keys.
You know, he gossiped, he got he knew gossip from Peel before the irvings.
Speaker 6Did did you know that Sandy was out with dog and Doug is the pool cleaner for Hillary, and Hillary.
Speaker 4Fucked Doug and just telling telling gossip tales?
Speaker 3You know, he was He found out about that CEO at the Cold concert before anyone.
Speaker 4Who what what Jeff, jeffne where do you know.
Speaker 3You didn't see that the CEO that went out and got caught cheating on his wife at.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, it's not so funny up to him.
So disappointing.
I'm disappointed.
Aaron's internet man.
I wanted to have this episode locked tight, but that don't get to happen on this here.
Speaker 3It's fine.
Speaker 5So do I sound like I'm talking like?
It's not that bad.
Speaker 4It sounds like you're talking through like a like a little like yeah, kind of like a cardboard tube.
Speaker 5I hear you great?
Speaker 4You know so?
Jeff openly bragged.
Speaker 6I go to Pan every night.
I listen to the people there.
I know what they say.
I spy for you, Jim.
I'm you're seeking it a sexy spy.
What do you want to know?
Imou Jim?
Speaker 4Oh he's back.
Wow, Okay, let's kick out the other air.
Okay, yeah, we may be sweet for a mongoose to like spy for you though, Like he's like, what do you want to know about?
You know?
Speaker 5I was going to say something about probably not the time.
Speaker 6Did you know Jenny down the street has a thirty four sea cap?
I squeezed him with Manita class.
Speaker 4Billy's an outter space.
Okay, now that air what now that erin's here?
Okay, you're good.
Your thing's queued up?
Speaker 3Are okay?
Speaker 4Very Billy's face?
Speaker 3Yeah something come far confused?
Speaker 4No, I thought you're frozen.
Don't do that.
He was like this, Oh no, we're about jeff em do it.
Speaker 3It was pretty good.
Speaker 4Yeah, so I had so Chatchibt wouldn't create me a racist Indian mongoose like, but.
Speaker 3It wouldn't do it.
Speaker 4Luckily Grok did it though Groc is Groc does not give a ship.
So when I was writing out an episode, right and I was taking articles and then filtering it through Grock because Chatt, for some reason what did parts of it but didn't add all the information that I gathered.
And then so hopefully I can hit this button on time.
And then so I asked Groc to write an episode about the Slutreans.
Was the idea that Europeans were here first before the Siberian tribes from Southeast Asia, that we could call Native American now even though they're not.
They come from somewhere else like everybody else does.
And uh, it said, It's like I was like can you just like give me an intro to this or whatever, and it's like, welcome back to strange podcast all you ice like, and it said the N word and I was like, how the hell because I was like, make it a little more controversial, and it sure I was doing.
I was doing it at work on break and everyone was like started to laugh and I was like, it said that.
It literally was like, what's up icening.
I was like, what the fuck this thing?
Don't give a ship obviously.
Speaker 3That is.
Speaker 4I know.
No, they yeah, it sucks compared like it will give you some controversial stuff.
And it addly because I had our stuff written out and they gathered more evidence for me.
So this was the first image Deadly nineteen fifty two.
And then so these are the funny ones.
It's just a it's I don't know.
It said that it will be make it offensive.
So it's a little mongoose with he's surround by stinky, stinky stinky stuff and flies eating some sort of weird Indian food there or something I said to make it, uh, you know, a racist stereotype of an Indian.
And this is where it got even weirder.
Okay, I was like, make him look like a ghost, like spooky, and this is where we get some nightmare fuel from.
Okay, so he's the first one.
It's like, what is that mongoose?
He's ripping open in his face around the audio listeners and he's surrounded by poop with corn, a bunch of corn into poop and uh and it got really weird, like really weird.
But I was like, oh, what is he doing with his stomach nightmare fuel?
Look at this one stomach?
Or is that not scary?
Speaker 3It's terrifying.
Speaker 4Yeah, I was like making like a haunted mongoose.
Imagine this is what Jeff looked like.
Speaker 6And also I'm so hungry.
Speaker 3Come down sitting here next to that, I'd be like, you're ready for some gossips?
Speaker 4Look at this one like what is that?
And it's supposed to be like he's got poop on his turban and stuff like and I don't know what, Like that's supposed to be stinky lines.
Yeah, well it's supposed to be poop because it said let's let's make this fire.
I have no idea its supposed to be a stink lines.
I guess is that freaky is that they did a bunch of really weird ones, but these are the these are the best ones.
So this is Jeff Strange.
Yeah, groka, don't give a fuck.
I guess does not care.
So visitors later confirmed this, including a Peel bus driver who's who swore he heard a child's humming voice on an empty top deck the night before, Jeff repeated the exact same tune in the Irving living room.
Uh in yeah, in the Irvings kitchen.
Jeff wasn't just talking.
Jeff was watching, listening, moving, traveling, and this was only just the beginning.
Jeff to not behave like a ghost, a cryptida, or an ordinary Poultergeist.
He'd be He behaved like he had a personality.
Speaker 5You know.
Speaker 4He was volatile, on predictable, cunning, petty, and strangely emotional.
The Irvings often said that living with Jeff felt like they were living with an unseen child one moment and a violent a trickster the next.
His voice carried mockery, sarcasm, and intelligence, but he was also menacing and like he was jealous and you know, sudden fits of rage.
The haunting was no longer just sounds in the wall.
It was now had moods.
There was one night, when Jeff seemed almost harmless, even sweet, he would sing hymns from behind the wallboards, his high, nauseous tone slipping in and out of the tune.
Speaker 6Jesus, nice, Jesus, Jesus, lover of my soul.
I love you, Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 4Jesus looks like an average twenty thousand month in the department.
Yeah, oh oh, I don't have it.
I was gonna say, I'm not that racist.
My buddy that is from India, he left for a month to go to India, and he's like, what do you want to ne La fonta Buddha And I was like a Buddha and he gave me a little buddhis statue.
It's not like the fat Buddha's like the buddhahead.
I was gonna bring it to show you guys.
And he's a good dude.
And I was like, it's so funny.
It's so people think that because I make fun of this stuff.
It's like I just hate everybody that's not white or somebody that's not true.
I've had friends of all walks of life.
Right.
The thing is, I just I don't want my country to turn into India.
I'm sorry, but that's I don't want it's that's not a hot take.
That shouldn't be a hot take.
Speaker 3That should not We got pretty good.
Speaker 4I'm just saying that should not be a hot take.
That shouldn't be controversial to say I want my kids to grow up in the same country that I did.
That's not crazy.
Speaker 5That's not even controversial.
Part.
We're talking about Jeff the talking mongo.
Speaker 4He's from India.
Yeah, no, that's the controversial part.
It should be, you know, and he's chill.
But like even I noticed he showed me videos of back home and I.
Speaker 6Was like, oh my god, what the fuck is that?
Speaker 10You know?
Speaker 4So Margaret started hearing disembodied child like voices singing church hymns in the dark farmhouse was like hearing a devil praise God.
Sometimes he switched to nursing rhymes.
Speaker 6Three blind Mice, Three blind mice.
I see how day run Run.
Speaker 4Then he would break down into man of giggles, give me a man of giggle.
No, no, what is happening, Aaron, your mistyle.
We can figure it out.
You're a disappointment to all of us.
You're a disappointment.
Speaker 3Just keep talking.
Speaker 4Then he would break down into mimics and giggles, sounds skittering up and down the rafters as if it was running around the ceiling beams.
What is going on?
Aaron?
Fix it?
He would tell stories, nonsensical, bizarre tales about India, wild hunts, talking trees, ghosts he met in the forest, and enemies would chase him across the desert.
Whether these were fantasies, memories, or lies crafted and entertain to entertain himself.
The family never knew.
Speaker 6I'd done my didn't like being chased by Arno's huntings.
Speaker 3I was gonna say, I was like I was in a three and I see the three and the three has goals come out and the goals see me fuck the neighbor's wife, And now everyone mad at me?
Speaker 4Aaron, what are you ready?
Speaker 5What?
Aaron?
Speaker 4What are you doing to me?
Yeah?
Aaron looks like he wants to light his computer on fire.
Why it works all the time?
Why now click it on and off?
Speaker 3Click on options, saying like words that like you can't come back from and I bet that's when it will work.
They're hardcore, just and work after nward?
Why should just suddenly start working again?
Speaker 4Yelling it let's see if that works.
Then make sure in your settings and all that stuff.
God every time.
Sorry, fans of the audience, good time.
I got my roam and candle cracked.
Speaker 3Trivia night after this?
Speaker 4Really, what are you going to trivia about?
Speaker 3I promise the guys I'd bring them.
Speaker 4What the hell's trivia night?
Speaker 5Just at a bar?
Speaker 4What kind of trivia they doing tonight?
Speaker 3This zero fucking idea?
Speaker 4Really usual?
They do like a theme like.
Speaker 3I know, but I'm going in blind.
I don't know what the theme is.
Speaker 4Okay, So, but the Sweetest did not last long on a whim.
He could be sharp and cruel.
His insults were legendary.
Speaker 3You look like Mike Cow's penis.
Speaker 6You are a fat headed a cocks all of you.
Margaret, your own hag.
You wouldn't ny me, Jim, you are a dirty liar.
You're dirty liar.
Speaker 5Well these are the actual witty.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's supposed to become a fat headed your fat headed cocks, which is really weird.
Speaker 3Like I can come up with better ones than Jeff.
Speaker 4No, do it right now?
Speaker 3I just did you look like Mi Cow's penis head?
Speaker 5What now?
Speaker 4Aaron?
Speaker 5Again?
Speaker 3I hear you know.
Speaker 5So it's actually the roadcaster microroone, Uh.
Speaker 4The internet fan?
Wow?
Yeah, Tom, where'd you get all those unique BEVs?
Liquor store sucks?
I'd never get anything cool like it's Ontario.
They have all these like there's so many different that I spilled beer over myself.
So he hurled curses with energy and mischievous demon or an angry each like a mischievous demon or angry child.
Visitors would flinch when he shrieked suddenly from a dark corner of a ceiling.
Speaker 6Who's that?
Stop looking at me?
Stop looking at me.
You're mashed.
Stop it.
I don't like it.
Speaker 4Captain Dennis, one of the later witnesses, said that Jeff in a Jeff's voice, felt too human to be animal and too animal to be man.
As Jeff gained confidence, he threw more disturbed, he grew more disturbing.
He reminded the Irvings constantly of his power.
Speaker 6I could kill you all if you like, If I liked you, I could kill you, But I won't because you've been good to me.
I won't kill you right now.
Speaker 4At least he never later, maybe later, he never specified how he would kill them.
Sometimes you would threaten livestock.
Speaker 6If you upset me, I'll kill your poultry.
No more chickens for you.
Speaker 5Well that sounded very irishutting.
Speaker 4So and then the chickens did die mysteriously, pecked apart, torn open, or some simply found cold and stiff in the morning.
Weird.
Speaker 3No, so he started by taking away their protein.
Speaker 4Yes, that's how he's going to kill them.
Speaker 3Slowly, surely, evil, evil, slow death.
Speaker 4When James argued with him one night, Jeff snapped.
Speaker 6If you like a dungeon, I'll split you open.
Speaker 4The he like was like physically threatening them, and it was pretty crazy, you know, yeah, crazy, naughty, nothing, bad boy.
He's a bad boy by a boy.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 4Then the the you know, then the he like, these threats horrified the family.
It wasn't just the vague menace of a ghost.
It was the threat of something with hands and teeth.
And he confirmed it.
Speaker 6I have hands, I have feet, I have fingers.
I can touch you.
Speaker 7You confirmed it verbally.
I know you can probably see, but by the way, yeah, I have I want to touch you.
You know, I get those rapi eyes.
Speaker 10You know.
Speaker 6As soon as you say no, I'm like, oh no, you can't say that.
Speaker 4Yes, it is.
Uh, they have a problem with that in that country.
Just everybody knows.
It's a big problem.
It's actually it's it's underreported like crazy sometimes.
That night, Margaret woke up to things scratch across her quilt, or a sensation of tiny hands tugging at the sheets.
No scary that beat.
You're like sleeping and you feel like little hands tugging on your bed.
Speaker 3Get that all the time?
Why why lady tries to take my blanket?
Speaker 4Yeah, that happens, she would cry out, and from somewhere in the raptors voice would laugh.
Speaker 3Michael Jason.
Speaker 4Above all, Jeff became fixated on Vori, a quiet, lonely daughter who seemed to be at her huh be, at the emotional center of the haunting.
He called her my little friend.
Speaker 6You are my meeting friend, my host, the girl he lets me, oh sexy that it was.
Speaker 3That actually kind of started to go off a little bit.
That kind of reminds me of those times where you're like you're sitting there and it's all these like Hallmark movies or whatever, always about this girl and the story that's like super shy in the corner to herself and she's sitting there and then like the one dude's like I see her.
He's like, no, you're fucking rapist.
Speaker 7You're picking the most vulnerable woman over there in the corner, barely wants to be here.
Speaker 4You're like, he's gonna say, yes, Tom, you kind of got this times.
You gotta do that, right.
You know when I was young, I was probably like that, Oh she's vulnerable.
Speaker 5Yes, that's literally like that with him on I think it's like, yes, easy pickings.
Speaker 4And then he said something far more unnerving.
This is weird.
Speaker 6I ride here like a parony.
She lets me.
I sit down there, shoulders and I whisper and here, Yeah, you're perony.
Speaker 5He rides her.
Speaker 4Yes, yes, is that weird?
He supposedly sits on her shoulder, whispers and Jeff, we actually don't know.
Speaker 5Oh no, wait, actually, what what year is this haunted?
Supposed to be.
Speaker 4In nineteen thirty one, I think, And.
Speaker 8He said he was born in eighteen fifty two.
Speaker 4Yeah, so how old is he?
Speaker 3Ninety eighty nine years old?
Speaker 4Are you sure that's right?
Math?
Yeah, by autumn nineteen thirty.
Speaker 3One, one, maybe seventy nine.
Speaker 4Wow, he's an old man.
Speaker 8That makes it even Scarier, an eighty year old Indian man riding.
Speaker 5You're like a home Yanks.
Speaker 6You must make me a party dish.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 4Then he's yeah, I said something.
A nerving investigators would later seas on this quote as the most important in the entire case.
What did he mean by ride?
Was it a metaphor?
Was it possession, shared consciousness?
Or a childish expression of achievement?
If Ory got upset and cried, Jeff became furious.
Speaker 6If she tells me, I will scratch her face into there's nothing left, I cut him like a paper.
Oh a gammy bitch.
Speaker 4I'm I'm kind of, I'm I'm kind of.
I got creative, creative of what's that word I'm looking for anyways, creative freedom on some of these quotes.
Speaker 3All right, So this is also just as a fun fact, Mongoose only lived six.
Speaker 5To ten years.
Speaker 4Well that he's a he's a spirit billy.
Speaker 5That's a very very long lasting Mango's a spirit.
Speaker 4So there's the dad, and there's Vori, the daughter, and she's pointing out a hole in the wall where Jeff comes from.
Speaker 5Supposedly that doesn't at all look like something in fucking Joseph Fritzel's base.
Speaker 4Yeah, I know which I would love will be getting He's ready to go at some point.
But you want to talk about Joseph Fritzel.
Speaker 5I would love nothing more than you.
Speaker 4Know, Joseph Fritzl is right, he's a.
Speaker 5Guy that he's a really cool guy.
Speaker 4Yeah, he's the one that, Yes, he kidnapped his own a daughter, had kids with his daughter, and held her in a basement.
You've heard of this case for sure before and yeah he uh, he'd been pregnant his own daughter and had kids with her, and yeah, it's fun stuff.
Speaker 5She was lost in the basement under the house for like fucking but like fifteen years.
Speaker 4A crazy dude.
So even even the year decades later, Vori refused to talk about her connection to Jeff.
She hated the press, hated the story, and insisted in ruin her life that silence is its own testimony.
There wasn't one instant that the Irvings bread to early investigators not to publish.
It was too embarrassing, too sensitive, too strange.
It appears only in private notes and later research by Christophe Josef.
One night, Margaret undressed behind a small screen in her bath bedroom, A thin cloth barrier protected her modesty from the drafty house.
As she removed her clothes, the voice whispered gleefully from inside the walls behind her.
Speaker 6Off comes they dress.
Oh yes, now the stockings.
Now the show has taken off her secks one the time.
Speaker 4And then he's like he's commenting on her as she's taking off her clothes.
Speaker 6Oh the bra so pointy, it's so pointy.
Oh nice and slow as Jeffy likes it.
Speaker 4Uh so funny.
He's like commentating on her as she's getting on track.
It says it's not flirtatious, not sexual, just cruel, mocking child, narrating her nudity as though peeping from inside the walls.
Margaret sobbed.
James tried to tear the panel off the wall to catch jeff but found nothing, only darkness behind the wood.
Speaker 6You can catch me.
I like it.
I like to see.
Speaker 3What kind of insulting things you think he'd actually say.
Speaker 6You goddamn sucker, you fuck fucker, fucker, your bloody bastard body, bastard.
Speaker 3Everything.
Speaker 4Yeah, imagine that thing.
Speaker 3He's cute.
Speaker 4This is what he was supposed to look like.
Okay, we'll get to his description.
But he's uh, he's a strange little little mongoose there.
Speaker 5You're on are And I was just gonna say, every time you mentioned like Indians or do the accent, I always just think of like you know what they say like best price and stuff like that, yeah, best, Yeah, when they're asking about the best price and like friend price and all that ship.
I just I can hear that, like just it's hardly in my head.
Speaker 4Aaron's TikTok's turn into Indian Texico.
I've noticed that it's terrible.
I don't know.
I don't go on to talk that often.
People get mad at me and stuff.
I've had so many band accounts, but I noticed that there's a bunch of videos coming up where it's like foreign languages, and I'm like, just because now all these foreign people are in Canada, it's like in a foreign language, come to this place in Canada and come get some food, and it's like in some oh really yeah, it's really bad.
I know.
Speaker 5So there you're going to have to start learning to speak a different language.
Speaker 4I'm not going to I'm just not gonna participate in this.
I will not participate.
It's coming there.
Man, there's a plan to dump a bunch of them in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.
They literally have a plan and there's they marked off the towns and stuff like that's in the government website.
So yeah, they're just it's fun.
Speaker 5It's fun, fun, John, I knows something actually on the topic of that, is your internet back piece of ship?
No, it's not.
Speaker 4Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3I would like to know something on the topic of that.
Speaker 5Yes, go the us B mic that I can do what we plug in your phone USB and my phone?
Speaker 4Oh weird, I have mics like that.
Anyways, carry on.
Speaker 5Some fun facts about the island man.
Sure, did you know that it's a self governing crown dependency.
It's not part of the UK or the EU.
Speaker 4Wow.
Speaker 8It has its own parliament, laws, government, and the UK handles its defenses and international affairs.
Speaker 5Do you know that?
Speaker 4That's cool?
Interesting?
Speaker 5It has the world's oldest continuous parliament that dates back to nine hundred and seventy nine eighty and it still functions today.
Speaker 4Maybe I should go with do they have Indians there?
Speaker 8I don't have you ever heard of the island man?
T t races motorbike racing?
Speaker 5No?
What so they Yeah, so they run them on.
It started in nineteen oh seven.
It's on all the public roads in the island Man.
It's like this big motorbike competition.
Have you considered No, but like lots of people like from Ireland travel out there.
Interesting, it's the most dangerous race in the world.
Apparently they have a famous breed of cat out there which is native to the island, called the Manx cat, and it has no tail.
It's basically just a cat with no tail, and they're only you can only see them on the Isle of Man.
Speaker 8They also Manx.
Speaker 5Yeah, they also have their own currency called the Manx Pound.
They do take other currencies, but their money only works in the Isle of Man and nowhere else.
Speaker 4I need to go there.
Speaker 5It sounds like, yeah, it does kind of because I always used to hear that if you went to the Isle of Man you can't be extra out of so if you went there, you were like but apparently that's not true anymore because they're kind of tied the UK a little bit, so it just means it will take longer, but you can be actually put out.
And they also have no national speed limits so you can drive on their road signs.
It just says please drive at a safe and appropriate speed.
Speaker 4And to Indians, that would be two hundred and sixty miles per hour even around a tight corner.
Speaker 5With two wheels on the carricter.
Speaker 4Dude, we there was like it should be a state emergency that we had a first snowfall and it was like mild compared to like what Canada can do, and all around the GTA, which is like the Toronto area, which a lot of them live in the big cities.
Because even Indians I've talked to them friends with like I don't want to live in a small town.
I like living in a city.
The one guy, he comes from a town full of a million people, so he thinks that this is like he doesn't want to live in a small town whatever, which I would rather get further away from everybody.
And yeah, he said he didn't want He said he likes driving around Toronto because it's like India, and we had a massive amounts of accidents, like in a day there was like two stay in India.
I know that's it.
Yeah, it's because they don't they want to I want to take advantage of what white people built and then called them racist when they don't like me.
But that's and essentially that's what's happening.
But like it is in so many accidents, like it's to be a statewide emergency in Ontario especially.
Speaker 3Yeah, there's a You got me thinking because I wanted to see what the difference was.
You guys have heard the term ming's cat before that.
Yeah, apparently it doesn't exist.
What what it's a manx?
Speaker 4Weird?
Speaker 3Oh apparently that's what AI keeps telling me.
Cat is like basically unpronounced, and it's supposed to be manx.
Speaker 4So the moment was so disturbing and emuliated when Jeff was narrating her taking off her clothes, that Henry Price purposely omitted it, one of the investigators from his publishing book on the Haunting, noting that only in a private letter they underto displayed forest tendencies of a juvenile mind.
Perhaps perhaps was another critical moment happened late one night when Jeff was screaming insults at.
Speaker 6James, your body, bastard.
Speaker 4You suddenly from deeper in the house, lower, lower, and more control, another voice erupted, Oh, weird.
Speaker 5Wonder is he in the walls?
Then?
Like jerking off when they're I know.
Speaker 4And there's another voice that came out.
He must be quiet now.
The entire family heard it.
They insulted.
They insisted it was not Jeff, not in his high pitch, not his tone, not his way of speaking.
Margaret said she felt her blood turn to ice.
If Jeff was a hoax, this made no sense.
If Jeff was a spirit, then something else was in the house too.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 4Fodor, one of the investigators, later wrote, the significance of the second voice cannot be exaggerated.
So, though rarely seen, Jeff occasionally followed flashes of physical form.
A small striped shape scurried behind a beam, a yellowish ferret like blur, a bushy tail under a chair, following or glowing lights perking through cracks.
A cat sized creature perch on a fence before visiting on one farm, hand said the small creature with yellow fur, human like eyes, two long fingers, and a natural posture.
He quit working on the he quit working for the irvings immediately.
Just not like this thing.
So supposedly these are like So that's one of the investigators.
I think that's faux door.
And supposedly these are images of Jeff.
This is a little busch deal and night there maybe on a fence he's perching.
Speaker 3He's not that scary, no, but so and when I you know, he starts talking to you and telling you is gonna kill you.
Speaker 4Yeah, like this is supposedly what they described.
He had like human like hands, three fingers was yellowish for very strange.
Speaker 5Oh that's weird.
He Yeah, he has like too many fingers on one side.
Speaker 4And that is a I we all know, he says to funk off.
A voyeur claim she saw him often.
James saw twice.
Yeah.
V vari claimed she saw him often.
He's a boy.
James saw him twice, Margaret once enough to make her collapse into tears.
Jeff described himself, I'm a freak.
Speaker 6If Sammy you dropped dead from fight, she's a freak.
Speaker 4Ow the one song I really like, I really like it that Uh I'm Mark James bitch that song for no no, no, no, no you That's what I'm talking about.
God, I hate you guys.
Speaker 5She didn't know any adults.
Speaker 3I only know the sentence.
I'm Rick James bitch from yeah you know this song?
Speaker 4You know this song?
Speaker 3He says, I'm Rick James bitch And that's it.
That's all you know, No, that's what because Dahoud Poe keeps saying that, and I didn't realize it was the song.
Speaker 4You know any you don't know any songs.
Speaker 3She's a super freak, super fake, She's super freaky.
Speaker 4I like that song about Actually he looks like a weird Uh.
He looks like a weirdo, though you gotta admit he is a he's a weird looking guy.
Speaker 3So yeah, that I've never heard songs before.
Speaker 4No, I know, I know, I know.
You don't live in reality.
You're stuck in an attic, Like look at this fucking like every time I've been on mushrooms and I've watched this music video for super Freak, and I'm like, it is just so weird.
Speaker 8Imagine that.
Speaker 4Yeah, look in that outfit too, like the the tight spandex.
I think next year for the Halloween special, I'm gonna be Rick James.
Speaker 5Good Now, I have a question.
Okay, she's regarding the complexion of your skin.
Address that I would do it.
Speaker 4I wouldn't care.
Speaker 8Are you gonna go full?
Speaker 4I'd have to put.
Speaker 3Why at this point?
Speaker 4Who gives a ship by the nineteen I don't think it's that because like you know, people are all mad that this one I can't remember her name, but she's like she'd been kicked off with some stuff.
But she's like a famous commentary kind of podcast or kind of thing.
I can't remember.
She did black face for Halloween and it was pretty funny.
And then there's people I got mad and a lot of people are just over it, and they're like, who gives a ship?
Remember the movie White Chicks, Like it's the same thing, and they're a comedian did recently where he had white face, the same thing.
I don't care if it was used to disparage people.
It's just like it's comedy.
Even back then they were like, we need a black eye to act in this film is don't worry, I'll do it.
I'll do it.
Speaker 5You know what's mad about that?
Speaker 8Like something like White Chicks comes out and you know what we all do?
Speaker 4Yeah, I know exactly.
By the nineteen thirty two, I know.
Speaker 3It's always white people that get mad about it.
Speaker 4The most offended.
But no, they're they're also you know a lot of people do get mad of re words, right if somebody calls them the N word, they're like think, it's like.
Speaker 3Oh, there's been so many fucking studies.
Like the the guy that walks around all the campuses.
I don't know if you've seen this.
He it's on sombreros and like pretends he's Mexicans.
He just like walks up to all white people and he goes, how how racist do you think I'm being the right?
Ten out of ten?
You need to stop?
And then he walks up to Mexicans are like, oh, it's so good.
Speaker 4I love it.
You know, even Asians still the Rice had.
All the Asians were like, sweet, you know my grandfather awesome, Yeah, look at your right you love that you're trying.
By nineteen thirty two, the Irvings were no longer in hearing Jeff.
The strange story begins spreading quietly across the Isle of Man, whispers and pubs, Gospels and peel, and eventually carried across the island by curious journalists and supernatural researchers.
Some visitors arrived to de punk debunk the tale.
Others came to witness the impossible.
Almost all left pale, shaken and unwilling to stay the night.
I would stay the night for sure if I was like, there's a talking mongers that swears and wants to talk to me.
Speaker 8You know, I think it sounds pretty a little be honest.
Speaker 4What follows our expanded accounts of every single third party encounter the ones confirmed in the Haunting.
Supposedly so Arthur, a friend of the Erring's family, visit the Cash and Gap.
It sounds like a strip club, the Cash and Gap.
You know, yeah, you pay your cash, you get to open a gap, you know.
Yeah, you know, no, because they don't our stand come to Canada to come to the strip clubs here.
They let you do whatever they want a lot of times.
Sometimes, Billy, you've been in Nicky's.
I've never been there, but that place is Gross's.
Nikis, you've never been in Nikkis.
I'm surprised.
I thought you would have all people.
Speaker 5Nikkis.
Speaker 3No, I'm actually it's near.
Speaker 4It's near, like it's in the Brandt County, you know, and it's like that, yeah, just not the Gentleman's club.
Not the Gentleman's club.
And if you go like Toronto or Niagara, if you mention suppose my boss said he's like you know, if you mentioned like like he lives around like this area, they're like, oh, Nikkis I started there, and that's how they kind of like get there.
That's what they get there.
They got to prove if they're able to if they can get to the rungs of going to Niagara Falls or whatever.
Right, yes, uh so, yeah, the cash's gap.
This guy, ourser came in nineteen thirty with the firm intention of proving it all was a joke.
He was a practical man, fond of tools and farming equipment.
That's what his cank was.
It's a guy.
Loved this man.
He was like, I take this screw, I put it in the hole.
Screwhole.
Not ghost tales.
He expected perhaps a trick wall, a hidden pipe, a board, family playing games with the supernatural.
He got none of that.
When Arthur walked into the kitchen, before introduction could even be made, a voice shrieked from the drafters, From the drafters, not the drafters, the rafters.
Hillo, raffa helly, it said, Hilo, not hello, Hiloo.
He froze.
The hairs rose in the back of his neck.
The voice continued in a mischievous and shrill voice.
Speaker 6Fell to me, Jeff, I know who you are.
I know, I know who you are.
Speaker 4Before Arthur could react, Jeff added, something so dark, and I expect him that.
The visitor later admitted that he nearly fled the house.
Speaker 6I was going to blow my brain brower brains out, but I like you.
Now I like you.
Speaker 4What does he mean?
Speaker 5Is he?
Speaker 4How is he going to blow his brains out?
Speaker 5Like he's going.
Speaker 4So weird?
Why would it like he's gonna blow your brains out?
The threat lingered in the air long after the giggle that follows.
Speaker 6Billy went, I'm going to brains out, but I like you now you know, and he's like he.
Speaker 4He The threat lingered in the air long after the giggle that followed.
Arthur stood rigid as pebbles began dropping around his feet, as if thrown by an invisible hand above the beams.
Then came scratching behind him, a hiss and unmistakable sound of something running across the attic floorboards.
When he finally looked up, he saw, just for a second, a pair of glowing eyes peering through a app in the wall.
They blinked and tilted and vanished.
Are the refused to stay past the sunset.
I don't know what that thing was, he wrote later, but I heard it and it knew my name, which is that's a strange case.
Billy disappeared there, he's back.
Finally just came down to give him his night.
Yeah, Billy did.
Joseph Fritz will come to give you your your your tray of food.
He just the door just slots open and you see the plate sliding under the door.
Billy's muted, so nobody can hear him.
Speaker 3Never mind, We're good.
A good one.
Speaker 4That's my favorite.
So.
The next major witness was Captain Quentin C.
Dennis.
Where'd you go?
Oh?
Speaker 3Business to attend to?
Speaker 4Okay, go ahead to take a ship.
The next witness was Captain quint CE Dennis.
At least if Aaron pissed, is he it can bring his phone with him.
Speaker 5That's true.
Actually might actually let me see if I can drink so you can piss the.
Speaker 4Episode I've done to you guys.
We're setting voice notes and then I'm like peeing in the washery.
We can clearly hear me being and I'm like, oh, Aaron, we're doing this next or whatever.
The next major witness was Oh yeah, it used to be have you on lunch eating apples?
The next major witness was Captain Quintin C.
Dennis, a British officer who vanished in February nineteen thirty five.
He was oh visited, Sorry I finished he visited in nineteen thirty five.
He was calm, articulate, and used to the danger, A type of man not easily rattled.
The moment he stepped into the sitting room, a nice How rich are you when you have a sitting room?
He later said that he was like he was being washed by something perched above you.
Without warning, a voice erupted from the ceiling.
Speaker 6I know, captain.
Speaker 4He nearly dropped his walking stick.
He had never introduced himself.
The captain began a barrage of phenomenon.
Plates flew off the shelf in the next room, smashing violently, despite there being no presence.
Loud bang shook the walls as if furniture was being thrown.
Something tugged the back of his coat, sharp, quick like claws.
Something you know.
A pebble got thrown across the room, and I see you, guys, there's a pebble shot across the room.
A missing hiss echoed from the attic.
Speaker 6The captain jumped.
Speaker 4Just deal with it.
Everybody's deal with it.
It's fine.
What a disturber.
Who was disturbed him the most was the intelligence behind the voice.
He taunted him, corrected his punctuation, and he intimidated his voice, even mocking him in a military posture.
Dennis concluded, no animal in this house produced that voice.
No human in this house produce that voice.
No animal learned to laugh like that.
One of the strangers encounters occurred from afar from the Irving home.
Lay one night, appeal bus driver above the final empty route of the house.
He turned down.
He turned down a quiet road.
He heard something he forgot, a voice, something he could never forget.
A voice, a thin, child like humming coming from the upper deck of the bus.
No footsteps, no movement.
Aaron leave it alone.
He stopped the bus.
He checked every seat empty.
The next day he mentioned the eerie incident of the at James Irving, who nodded gravely.
Jeff left bragging.
Speaker 6I wrote, I wrote the bus to peel.
The driver did not see me.
I sat on top like a king.
I'm looking at the castle, I'm looking at the the humming.
Speaker 4Jeff sang the exact same tune the driver heard, and the first indication that Jeff's presence extended beyond the farm, and how we could kind of project sound, travel and appear wherever he pleased.
Two of the neighbors, who lived near a mile away the farm nearly a mile away, reported hearing odd sounds coming from the Irvings farmhouse when the family wasn't home, specifically giggling in a shrill voice, shouting when they couldn't make it out.
But the most chilling came from the farmer's wife.
She swore that Jeff repeated an argument she had with her husband the previous previous night, word for word, even though no one was with an earshot when they were arguing.
One morning, she heard the voice shut across the valley.
Speaker 6I know what you did.
Speaker 4What do you think she did?
Speaker 5She did?
Yeah?
Speaker 4Now, yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
So journalists who came hoping to expose the Irvings discovery something more settling.
Jeff didn't form for everybody.
Sometimes he was silent, hiding in walls.
It's like a sulking child.
Other times he had least streams of insults and reporters calling them.
Speaker 6Phones and busy batties and inks climinies.
Speaker 4One reporter from the Listener claimed that he heard a faint, faint whisper said.
Speaker 6I don't like liars and newspaper men.
He's like, I don't like juice.
Speaker 4I don't think he actually said that.
But and is your internet working again?
Seriously?
What happened?
It's like a bomb go off or something.
Speaker 5I have no idea.
It's lucky I have mobile, Yes, mobile internet.
Speaker 3Every time we do.
Speaker 8It rocks and the stick.
Speaker 4God, damn it, damn it, damn it that that's there.
Then there was a stone that struck his boot, thrown him the direction and the staircase.
Now the journalist report of hearing Jeff giggle behind the wall panel followed.
Speaker 6By you understandy, go home and write your k eyes.
Speaker 4He left shaking.
They're trying to expose him, and he didn't care.
One of the rarest most disturbing comes came from a farm hand who had worked for the Irvings, who claimed he saw Jeff persch on the fence.
He described it as a cat sized yellowish furd, a strange and lang elongated body, human like intelligent eyes, a bushy twitching tail, hands, small but unmistakably hands gripping the fence like a human hand.
Is that weird.
I don't know, they claim it.
These are like real pictures of him, but strange.
Speaker 3You know, back then it wouldn't be like phone camera either, like the odds of you having a camera on you.
Speaker 5It's just big, giant camera and he's like, right, Jeff, don't know for the next fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3Yeah, you gotta run out of the house, go get it, go, get set up, get ready.
Speaker 4No, there's like real newspaper reports and stuff like that about Jeff.
That's what's crazy about the story is there is so much evidence and people really believe that it was real.
Right, so so is yes, Jeff, Jeff is Jewish.
Yeah, he's using the never.
Speaker 3I tried to look up when he died, but everything just kept saying he was an eighty year old Indian mongoose.
Speaker 4Yes, so yeah, they they claim that, you know, he it was.
It was very weird, right, Yeah.
The creature had stared at him, tilted head, vanished, pound of rock, blurred in motion far too quick.
No one ever really saw him, and they said those eyes weren't animalized.
But more witnesses came.
Some heard a some heard him, A few saw shadows and brief shapes, but Jeff made one thing clear.
Speaker 6I know myself when I wanted to, I speak when I want, you can to make me.
Speaker 4He controlled the haunting, He controlled who hurt him, he controlled how he appeared.
This made the entire case more terrifying, because, unlike most hauntings, the entity had agency.
He used that agency with manipulative glee of a tricks to God.
But by nineteen thirty five, the story of the Talking Mongoose had to reach far beyond this farm and their gospel had traveled to London entered the Office of the Paranormal Researchers, laying on the desk of Harry Price, Britain's most famous ghost hunter.
Price was no fool.
Price was skeptical, A was skeptic first, an investigator second, and a believer when it was concerned by evidence.
Cornered by evidence, He had exposed fraudulent mediums, debunked psychic surgeons, and dismantled fake seances across Britain.
If anyone could tear apart the Jeff story, it was him.
And yet, after months of corresponding and interviewing, even Price couldn't debunk it.
Speaker 8I think Jeff is infiltrated my Internet yeah.
Speaker 4What is going on.
Speaker 3There's no way it's in your side of the world.
I keep meeting myself because we got lady walking around closing doors and shit.
Speaker 4Why is she so loud while she was walking around?
Why don she just stay in the room that you locked her in?
Speaker 3He doesn't should.
Speaker 4She's snaky.
She lives in the walls.
James wrote down a long, detailed letter to Price, documents every word, every appearance, to every object.
Jeff moved every night.
He kept the family awake with laughter, tapping, singing, and screaming.
Price later admit that james letters were detailed, banana stercal objective, but not detached disturbingly sincere, James just that the family never sought for fame and money, in fact refuse offers from newspapers who would have paid him handsomely.
Instead, they wanted clarity, or at least someone credible to witness what they were going through.
Jeff also interfered with letters.
When James sat down to write, a voice from the matching board would taunt him.
Speaker 6Get him lies, Jim, get him lies.
I want to believe you anyway.
Jeff hated investigators.
He hates scrutiny.
You hate the idea of being studied, and yet the Irving passed it forward.
It's interesting that he's like so cynical and like, you don't don't tell them about me.
Speaker 4I like living here and you can fuck off, you know, Like if.
Speaker 8This is a hoax, it's a very weird thing to make a hoax up about, right.
Speaker 4I know, because they didn't make money or anything off that.
Speaker 5But even just to be like like, I don't know if if this was going to be like a hoax, could you pick anything more unbelievable?
Speaker 3I talk about mongoose.
Speaker 4I know.
The most strange it is that my father's strangest hauntings toever exist, you know.
And they said like maybe it was just like the acoustics of the house and like the daughter storing her voice, you know.
But he examined, like no hidden pipes, no cutouts in the walls, no megaphones, no wires.
You know, it's just like I'm inside the walls, you know, I'm inside.
Speaker 8No secret chambers, no Joseph Fritzel chambers.
Speaker 4If the Irvings were hoaxing it, they had no equipment, and uh they you know, there's no motive.
Speaker 7Uh.
Speaker 4He wrote that this is a hoax.
It is strange as I've ever encountered.
The entire family would have been trained venture reliquist and the gene and then the geniuses of deception.
But Price and understand just like how strange things would become.
Jeff often plucked hairs from himself and left them behind.
You know, you know, like Billy, you sprinkle your like dandruff everywhere you go.
Speaker 8Yeah, sprinkle handful of pews.
Speaker 4Blonde Billy pews.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 4If you see that in the rest room, you should probably not use it.
Speaker 8Get them in the news of the.
Speaker 3Disgusting gross.
Speaker 4Yeah, so it's so weird.
The Irvings said that, like Billy would do, he was shedding clumps.
One morning, Jeff found a tough of pale wiry first snagged on a board near the pantry where Jeff had been chattering the night before.
They send to the hair to Price, who analyzed the verdict.
Sheep dog hair.
But there's no part of the public and that this is the part of public never hears.
But James did have a sheep dog, but the hair was cut in an odd way, irregular way, as if plucked, not brushed.
The sheep dog hair did not explain the teeth, mark's fingers, and strange prints found around the house, and they even caught like prints of this thing.
Price later wrote the hair proved inconclusive but did not disprove the phenomenon.
It's very strange.
This is by far one of the strange's weirdest man.
Yes, and Jeff had like a sanctum that he'd hang out.
This is supposed to be the sanctum.
He would hang out in this little like box, thank this little like area in the back of the house.
And I says, like, so weird, Like imagine being haunted by some sort of weird mongoose creature.
So strange.
Seems like a good boy.
It's Billy would say, boy.
Uh yeah, so some uh, Some said you look like a weasel or a ferret.
Some had uh.
He said that he had tiny human hands, five fingers, but short with claw tips.
One stead of by appeared by petal was a bipedo.
Speaker 3Mean, Billy, you like boys and girls.
Speaker 4Stand up on legs, as though it was never made briefly he stood up right.
Speaker 1Uh.
Speaker 4They also found gnaw marks on chocolate biscuits and fruit left out for Jeff.
The marks did not match any known Manx animal.
Vori insisted those are jeffs he comes down at night, and Jeff also himself bragged.
Speaker 6I need Prince because I want you to wonder.
Wonder, it's so curious.
Space Garous.
Speaker 4Price, Yeah, Pricing.
His team discovered something fastening about the Dorish cashion.
The walls have been constructed away to create long acoustical like cavities along the sound to travel unpredictably.
It was if the house was like maybe a you know, a maybe it was like a megaphone megaphone megaphone house, musical instruments of wood and wind.
It's very strange.
It's very strange.
This does not They explain some of the strange echoing, but does not explain like the intelligence behind the speech, the timing, the emotional response, the knowledge of like knowing private information.
These physical attacks.
There's so many like weird things, thro all objects, the speed of the movement.
Speaker 3Uh.
Speaker 4It just doesn't A lot of it doesn't make sense right it uh and even supposed to me.
They try to bring in like a wax cylinder recorder like the old school one and eerie voice device.
It was set up sitting in the room hoping to capture capture Jeff's voice, the carter male function, the needle jammed, and the wax withered, but did not capture faint noises.
Later playback, it revealed a thin, shreill giggle escaping sound like claws in the wood, and a brief whistle really but not much.
Speaker 5Yeah, I never yeah.
Speaker 4Damn it.
Speaker 3You can't really trust that technology anyway.
Speaker 4Yeah, we'll just Jeff cackled from the rafters and he said.
Speaker 6You want to get to me on that thing, I won't be on record.
Speaker 4And then they was destroyed by the blitz, so they bought when you know, when uh, you know, when the bombing happened, Jeremy were like, stop bombing us, and then they're like, we're gonna bomb you back.
Now, that's not what happened, Billy.
What is what did Japanese people sound like?
Billy?
Speaker 3No?
Two for one.
Speaker 4That was good.
It's such a weird thing because like imagine being like taunted by some sort of ghost in your house, you know, it is strange.
I'm trying to give your guys thoughts as we go through this, Like you know, I'm trying to get through there is a lot of information I'm trying to get through it, so you guys get like the clear view.
But it is strange, like what is this?
Is it a polktergeist entity with personality, a psychic projection with intelligence, or like a trickster spirit, you know, like what is this thing?
You know, the investigator was puzzling about it too, being like what he can't explain it either?
Speaker 3Was there anything in the water at the time?
Speaker 4You think that's actually good idea that because a lot of times that you know, there's things that happened in the America where they'd like put drugs in.
Speaker 3The water, you know, yeah, like everyone's doing it or was there like an opium bike at that point?
Speaker 4I don't know, because uh because even in you know, when they did the witch trials, they were eating ergot bread.
Supposedly there's proof in the few states, there's no proof they're eating the got bread essentially, like it was like old bread and it would make them hallucinate, would be fun to try.
Speaker 3But everyone's having like a joint hallucination too.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 5Yeah, I was just gonna say, like I wonder if they're like you know that that like sheered delusion theory or like mass hysteria people.
Yeah, like people started to come in and then I don't know, Like I don't know if I visited the house and all the family were just constantly but like it's real, it's real, that's reel.
At a certain point, would you start to go like, oh yeah, I heard that as well.
Yeah, that definitely happen.
Speaker 4That would be crazy.
Speaker 3You see a cat on a fan's posted, like must be it.
Speaker 4Well, like even the investigators they brought investars, like especially there what's his name Price, who like went around and investigating and debunked a lot of these cases.
Uh, you know Priced.
He remained cautious.
He refused to clear Jeff as a gross a demon or a poltgeist uh, and he refused to accuse the Irvings of fraud, but in a private letter to a colleague he did.
He wrote essentially that he wrote words that would never be published in his lifetime.
There was something something in that house that is neither human nor animal.
It is clever enough to be a man, but not stupid enough to be a creature.
The Uttervings not telling the truth, but the truth itself is in possible.
Listen, impossible.
It's impossible, now, Italian, It's impossible.
Speaker 3Impassibly.
Speaker 4French Billy needs to get better at his accents.
Man, At least my mind sound kind of real.
Billy's to sound Billy sound more racist than what I do it.
You know, Internet fixed yet no fix it.
Speaker 5I'm looking at the strict loaded up that they can just like scroll show because it's already on screen.
But I'm afraid if I touch anything, it's gonna reload and I won't come back.
Speaker 4I know that is what happened.
Is the only time this has ever happened.
Speaker 5It is just my Internet has never gone out, so strange.
Speaker 4So Price believe they're doing with maybe a poltry guy's empty with a personality, a psychic projection with intelligence, or maybe a trickster spirit from Manx folklore.
At one point it behaves us not what is It's well alive, yet it behaves as though it has well mind without form.
And then Harry Price left the island disturbed, not convinced, not unconvinced, just kind of shaken.
He later said about cash Up's gap was a place where the impossible became routine.
So the case of Jeff is unlike any other haunting since before or since.
By ninety thirty, five investigators, journalists, and psychic psychologists in parapsychologue, so para psychologeal psychologists and parapsychologists.
I can't say it with the para.
See psychic psychologists and parapsychological psychologists and parapsychologists attempt to frame parapsychologists of the of the paranormal and Matt, Billy, imagine that was your job.
Speaker 3The psychologists like to talk ghosts off the cliff when they die.
Speaker 4Step up from that ledge, my friend.
Speaker 3Why the ghosts is?
Why the ghost is cutting himself?
Speaker 4That's fucked?
Speaker 3Is that what that is?
Speaker 4It's a ghost of Billy Madden just in the corner.
Okay, so yeah, it is weird.
So by nineteen thirty five investigator journalists and they're they not fully convinced of if Jeff is real or not, but it does break the rules.
Skeptics insist that the case must be a hoax.
They had to believe it.
The alternative was unthinkable.
The hoax theory put the blame on three people, James, Margaret, and the daughter.
But deeper investigations look at the theory because James, he was aging, partially deaf, and I know ability to throw his voice across rooms or through beams, r out of empty spaces above door frames.
If he was faking a child's voice for eight years straight, he would be the greatest ventriloquist in all of history.
Right, admit the as is committed.
Margaret.
Visitors consistently reported that she seemed terrified of the voice.
She begged journalists not to publish Certa dy Tell.
She cried when Jeff mocked her, uh mocked her prayer.
So she's praying and she's like He's like, ah.
Speaker 6You're stupid bitch, Yes, stupid damn bitch.
Why so plenty.
Speaker 3Uh, why do they keep coming back to that?
Speaker 4Because that's like the weirdest thing that he was like watching her get undressed.
And then like obviously Vori the daughter with a strange name.
She was like the most popular scapegoat, the lonely child creating a voice out of repression.
But here was the hoax.
Theory collapses the hardest.
Voyer was like shy timid.
Voyri was sim She was shy, timid and withdrawn.
Those who met her insisted she didn't have the theatrical ability to kind of keep up such performance.
She hated attention She refused interviews all her life, even when she even when adults attempted to record her speaking, she kind of shut down.
So she had the investigator.
You had investigators heard the voice when Voyer wasn't in the room.
Even Jeff's own response to the hoax.
Speaker 6Theory, if you think it could be very they're foods there, foods.
I could speak when she was not there, I am me, I am me.
Speaker 4And then obviously so you have a parasitologist.
Nando Nandor.
Fodor often offered a different angle.
He believed Jeff was a psychic projection, a spirit personally externalized by intense emotion pressure.
In simpler terms, Jeff was the Irvings collective stress made real.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 4Fodor believed that James Pride, Margaret's oppression, and Vori's loneliness fused into a single auto anomalist like psychic being, cable of speech, mischief, and intelligence.
He wrote, Jeff might be a fragment of oving psychic, their psyche giving a voice.
But even Fodor hesitated the theory didn't account for the knowledge Jeff had and these weird experiences that visitors had of hearing him.
And you know, in that second voice that said they he must be quiet.
You know, there's there's so many weird things about this case that people can't explain.
If Jeff was a pro projection of the family mind, then who was the second speaker?
And you know, and uh, I have I have some stuff about the Tulpa, but I know we're running late on time, so maybe we'll do in our own episode about the Tulpa idea.
But you know, it's just weird because we don't really know what this is.
The Isle of Man is filled with stories of house spirits, land uh land whites, land whites.
That's nice.
I don't know what that is.
It's it's w I G h T s whites and strange creatures that live between worlds.
Brownies.
What's a brownie?
Billy?
No?
Speaker 1No, no.
Speaker 4And everyone thinks that we're like we'd gotten so much more controversial or something like that, Like we covered fairies and me and Billy both joked about how the brownie fairies and how it could be The only said he's gonna start using it as a racial slur or something like that.
Speaker 3That's maybe why I can't say it.
Yeah, I built this top in my own mind so big, so It.
Speaker 4Was like the trickster kind of fay the fairies.
Uh, these beings are known for mischief, mockery, mocking speech, and they were a strange obsessed with households, isolated from emotional strain.
Jeff behaved like some sort of Manx brownie that sounds like a slur Manx Brownie, only louder, ruder, and far more intelligent.
He claimed to leave the house at night and traveled the island like a wandering trickster.
He threatened people, saying him mockingly, stole food and demanded offerings.
Speaker 6Give me biscuits.
I want not to hum your fowls.
Fowls are like farm animals.
So he moved objects and all that stuff.
And then is he maybe like a Jinx kind of character?
Speaker 4Right?
Is he some sort of Jink's character, like a not Jinx, like a Gin character, some sort of spirit?
Speaker 1You know?
Speaker 4So who knows?
So every theory breaks down?
It was a hoax.
Why did independent witnesses hear voices when the family wasn't present?
It was psychological?
What explains the physical sightings?
The prince the second voice?
There's folklore?
Why didn't the modern concept in distant Uh?
What's Why did he know modern concepts and distant gossip is interdimensional?
Why do you act like a mischief child?
A mischievous child?
Jeff himself seemed to reveal his uncertainty.
The more investigators tried to categorize him, the more he would slip between the categories.
Speaker 6In his own words, I am not one thing, I am any things.
I'm not good, I am not been a I am the voice that comes before I gain.
Speaker 4Either way, this was the longest hoax in British history, if it was the strangest poltageist ever witnessed.
A psychic projection with personality, a Manx trickster spirit uh gin like intelligence.
We don't know uh you know, And at some point maybe maybe we'll break down like what this could be when we talk about Toulpa's maybe we'll bring Jeff back into it.
This definitely didn't go the way I wanted it to.
That's kind of how it goes.
I know, I do, Yeah, I know all these problems.
I wanted this to be.
Uh, I want to be better.
I'm very sad, actually, my sa mm hmm.
Speaker 3Do you ever try heroin?
Speaker 4I'm disappointed.
I out of one of the biggest paranormal episodes.
I want to Yes, I I'm sad about this.
I wish it.
I wish A's AARNet didn't cut out.
I wish Billy wasn't had to go play some fucking, stupid, fucking trivia.
Speaker 3It's fine, it's about what I promised my team, so I can't not.
Speaker 4Billy's gonna get teamed on Bro.
He's going to an orgy.
That's where he's going.
Speaker 3Thanks Tom.
Speaker 4So that was Jeff the talking mongoose.
I guess, uh, this was strange podcast.
Well the last Every time we tried to do an episode, all three of us, there's always problems and it drives me insane.
Speaker 5Yeahon, oh, sorry, your fault.
Speaker 4If it's either Billy's fault or is Aaron's fault or some noiw's my internet.
I don't know, but this is why one of the strangest cases.
Yeah, I don't know, just say anymore.
I'm disappointed.
This is not it was Jeff.
Speaker 3Don't It's fine, You're fine.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, okay, Well, I hope everyone enjoyed this.
Even though we had technical difficulties.
This is one of the strangest hauntings.
You might revisit it when we talk about like Tolpa's and maybe get some more theories based on what Jeff really was, because I had at least three more pages that we could have got to about what he was or what the explanation was.
We had we had, We had plenty more we could have got to, and maybe I should have stick stuck with the original script.
The original script would have capped it out of an hour and a half.
But for some reason, I'm like, we need more details, we need every quote that Jeff ever gave, and we'll just leave it on.
This is one of the things that some believe Jeff wasn't empty out of a phase within our world, a glitch, a visitor, an anomaly.
He spoke about himself in ways that no animal or portal gusts ever have.
Speaker 6He said, I am the fifth dimension.
I was never alive and I will never die.
I am one who knows and I know Aaron very well.
So I sucked with his Internet.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's probably what happened.
Nice chef, thanks for doving the episode.
So, Billy, do you have a fun fact.
Speaker 5You've stole my fun facts?
Speaker 3Can maybe tell him in the morning.
Speaker 4I know, in the morning, all right, I hope everyone enjoys this episode five star rating reviews.
We're not going to appease everybody.
I actually have way more controversial stuff to come at some point, so, uh, you know that will be interesting.
But we're gonna switch gears for a bit and we're gonna get some fun aspects of the show some hauntings.
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You guys have anything else to say.
I know I talked for eighty percent of the episode, but his thumbs.
Speaker 3Up, Okay, my thumb doesn't.
It goes away.
Speaker 4I'm like that.
I'm like that Native American that has one single tier when he sees a little piece of trash.
Speaker 8That's the best thing ever them.
Speaker 4You know what's funny.
I just want to say this, if you know that whole idea of like there's that joke where like, you know, there's trash going across the land and a Native cries about it.
Right, maybe they should fight back against the Indians.
And you know, you don't know, there's not that commercial where like you throw.
It's on the Simpsons.
You would know this.
You watch cartoons and there's like on one, like tear that runs down his eye because he's sad about what happened to his land and now it's just full of trash people.
Oh wow, maybe we should maybe they should be more upset about something mouse.
Speaker 5You know.
Speaker 3Maybe wow.
All right, goodbye, my name Jeff, my nim Jeff.
Speaker 5Good bye
