[00:00:00] Announcer: In a world full of turmoil and uncertainty, you need someone who will speak up above the noise, someone who will tackle the tough topics that others are too afraid to discuss. You need a champion who will talk about the things most important to you. Oh, this is bullshit. Let's be honest. They're talking about booze and Bigfoot here.

[00:00:26] Announcer: So belly up and get ready to pour yourself into the conversation with cocktails and conspiracies. Welcome to another episode 

[00:00:35] Sher: of Cocktails and Conspiracies. Of course, I've got my buddy, my pal, my partner in crime for a bazillion 50 years. And if we're looking at past life regression, it may have been about 15 other lives.

[00:00:49] Sher: My buddy, my pal, Laz. How are you doing? 

[00:00:52] Laz: Hey, I'm doing wonderful guys. Welcome. Thank you for doing another one of these. Hey, how do you 

[00:00:55] Sher: know, how do you know it's guys? It could be gals, it could be just one person. It could be my dog. It could be your dog. I just, I always worry about the whole, everyone.

[00:01:05] Sher: I feel like I'm in the DMV when I do that, and nobody wants to be just a number in the DMV, so that, but that is also why we drink it. Of course. That is part of why we hear cocktails, cocktails and conspiracies. Of course, we discuss. The important things in life, the hard hitting topics that really matter.

[00:01:27] Sher: We are tAnnunaking a break from the normal polarization and the things that cause us upset and pain and anger. This might cause upset, pain and anger by the time you're done listening. But we like to talk about Bigfoot and booze lochness and libations UFOs, you and me sitting around the table discussing those topics over a lovely la libation is what we're gonna call it, I think.

[00:01:55] Sher: Or should we call it 

[00:01:56] Laz: Lazbation las that sounds icky. 

[00:01:59] Sher: Maybe Laz's Liquor liquor. 

[00:02:01] Laz: Sure, we'll throw that out to the audience, see if they wanna come up with something. 

[00:02:04] Sher: Lazbation or Laz's liquor, that's outta 

[00:02:06] Laz: my pay grade. 

[00:02:07] Sher: All right then. We'll leave it at that, just on the user 

[00:02:09] Laz: end. 

[00:02:10] Sher: So tonight's guest, I could not be more excited, found this gentleman by accident.

[00:02:17] Sher: He actually found me. I put out the call please come. If you wanna discuss something unusual that you may have experienced, if you are an expert, and he came out and said, I got you, I've got you for this. We're gonna be you're gonna love what we're talking about tonight.

[00:02:34] Sher: But let me give you a little background on this guy. He's not a slouch. Our guest this evening is. An award-winning documentary filmmaker you may have seen on Netflix, the documentary bite-size. Yeah, he's the guy that did it. He is a graduate of USC film School. He is an established, well-known and respected musician who has done rap and hip hop, especially within the Phoenix community.

[00:03:06] Sher: He is the youngest professional speaker to ever be a part of NSA, I believe. I believe he was nine. We'll find out for sure. I'm just, I'm going by memory here, and I may have already warmed up with a cocktail. He's a businessman. He's a director, he's a musician, and he's a bit of a, I would like to call him a spiritual journeyman.

[00:03:30] Sher: You may know him as FlooWood, but we know him as the friend of the show. Corbin Billings Corbin. Welcome to Cocktails and Conspiracies. 

[00:03:39] Corbin: I sure appreciate that introduction and I have to say, cheers friends. Cheers, cheers to to be here with you all the day talking about something that I don't get to talk about often enough, which is all the things that confuse me and don't add up in my analytical brain.

[00:03:56] Sher: I suppose we need to explain what we're discussing this evening and the topic tonight is space. Snakes. That's right. Snakes 

[00:04:05] Laz: let that sink 

[00:04:06] Sher: in space, snakes in space it just, it feels a lot like we should probably have Samuel L. Jackson I know, announcing this whole thing for us.

[00:04:18] Sher: So 

[00:04:19] Laz: You've probably never heard that one before. 

[00:04:22] Corbin: I honestly prefer to bring this up so that in a way, let's say that we were having this conversation at a bar so that somebody would quote Samuel Jackson saying, I am sick and tired of these motherfucking snakes in this motherfucking space.

[00:04:37] Laz: Perfect. Thank you. Goodnight, everybody. That's all we wanted. 

[00:04:40] Sher: That's really all we needed from show. We got sound clip from the show. Before we dive into the topic of space snakes and wherever this leads us Corbin, what are you drinking this evening? 

[00:04:49] Corbin: This is a a cider. I have a fondness for this after studying in in Cambridge.

[00:04:53] Corbin: And so whenever I'm having a sit back book club, intellectual conversation of sorts. I do like to pair it with that as a preference, that or wine. And this particular flavor is a prickly pineapple. Ooh. 

[00:05:06] Sher: What brand are you giving a little patronage to? 

[00:05:08] Corbin: I'm a Rapper over here, so everything that I drink has to rhyme.

[00:05:11] Corbin: So this is a wider cider, 

[00:05:14] Sher: Wider cider. Excellent. Last. We need to know what LA's Liquor is. 

[00:05:18] Laz: I just finished up the, I'm doing an old Forester 1910. 

[00:05:23] Sher: Beautiful. A little brown foreman selection. Yeah. 

[00:05:26] Laz: I, 

[00:05:26] Sher: yeah. You've got your glencairn full of, what are you drinking? The 19 No, the 1910.

[00:05:31] Sher: 1910. 

[00:05:31] Announcer: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:05:32] Sher: Okay. The 1910 Old Forester and because. I like to go with the theme of the show. And because I do have an extensive background in, in wine and spirit in mixology, I decided to do a riff on the rattlesnake, and I'm doing what I call a coral snake. So it is, of course, my whiskey. I'm doing a little higher end.

[00:05:54] Sher: I'm doing weller special reserve as the base for that. A little lemon juice instead of the egg white. You could do that. I've decided to do with, to go with aquafaba and some orange and fig bitters. But the variance here is normally on a rattlesnake. You've got either green chartreuse or an absent rinse.

[00:06:12] Sher: I've decided to go with PAMA Pomegranate lour as the rinse on this one. So my friends here's to a great conversation. Cheers to you. 

[00:06:22] Laz: Cheers. Cheers 

[00:06:23] Sher: everyone. All right. We'll take a little Slurpee sip. 

[00:06:25] Laz: Delicious. 

[00:06:27] Sher: Corbin, I gotta ask you. 

[00:06:29] Laz: Yeah. 

[00:06:31] Sher: How the hell do you find snakes in space? That's the basic question everyone needs to know is how did you discover space snakes?

[00:06:42] Corbin: The funniest thing about this joke of the universe, that it, way that it played it on me, is that for anybody that's actually familiar with the show, Rick and Morty? Yeah. Oh, absolutely. There's a literal space snakes joke that's about this, and it's that everything's in space. Morty, Rick. 

[00:07:03] Sher: Exactly.

[00:07:03] Sher: You've got pick rick right there. You've got pick rick, pickle rick, 

[00:07:05] Corbin: even snakes. And there's a moment where then a little snake's, a space snake bite comes up and it bites Morty. And that was the cherry on top of this whole this whole thing for me when I started, when I decided to play the joke on myself after finishing a very interesting book, and I said, okay, fine, I'll Google it.

[00:07:23] Corbin: Universe, fine. I'll Google snakes in space. There's not gonna be anything when I Google snakes in space. That's a ridiculous thing to Google 

[00:07:32] Sher: other than Rick and Morty episodes. 

[00:07:34] Corbin: Yeah. Other than yeah and initially when I started bringing this up to my, my friends and sharing my experience, of course I wasn't familiar with it, but they showed me the clip and then I was like, all right I don't know if it's pre-programming or if the simulation is reflecting back at me or what in the world it could be, but I'm not gonna rule anything out, but my answer to your question of how do you find space snakes?

[00:07:53] Corbin: Space snakes, find you. 

[00:07:56] Laz: Oh, shit. 

[00:07:57] Sher: Okay. So is there anything that you can do to have this space snake find you well in the course of your life? 

[00:08:05] Corbin: Ha. It gets into the, to the place now. When I initially was got like into this rabbit hole. It was not in any sense literal, it was in, in many senses, spiritual 'cause I was exploring, as you were saying, the spiritual journeymen like aspects of plant medicine.

[00:08:24] Corbin: Okay. And how those affect the mind, open it and altered states of consciousness. And then what is this interesting thing that happens across humanity whenever we in like engage with these substances along the lines of what Michael Pollan would explore with his work in talking about ayahuasca, it's an awakening of the mind.

[00:08:48] Corbin: And then in this altered state, why is it that humans seemingly, universally have experiences in archetypical visions with snakes? 

[00:08:59] Sher: And you're absolutely right that, pretty much every culture. Has this concept of snakes. You've got the nga. With Hinduism. You've got, what is it? What's it called?

[00:09:11] Sher: Called in Latin America. Hell, the Japanese, they believe that a white snake is symbolic of fortune, of wealth, of good luck. Of course, in the Hairband community, Whitesnake is just a shitty led Zeppelin wannabe with Tawny Kitaen crawling across the hood of a vehicle. But that's a whole different.

[00:09:33] Sher: Wrong. Different culture there. Yeah. Even me and I am strictly a meat and potatoes a gal even. And I looked at Tawny Kitaen and went, yeah, I get that one. I 

[00:09:41] Corbin: get it. Shout out to, to Bernie Marsden, who I met, who's the was a guitarist for the, oh, nice. 

[00:09:46] Sher: I gotta tell you, I love Whitesnake, don't get me wrong, but people the whole criticism is there a Led Zeppelin wannabe thing, but I waited in line with my wristband waiting to get tickets.

[00:09:55] Sher: I was one of them. 

[00:09:57] Corbin: Yeah, I guess you with fluid, I could have been a white snake wannabe. So we're just continuing that cycle and that legacy it in itself is an or burros where this, there we go. It's the mouth constantly consuming the tail. It is finishing cycle.

[00:10:09] Sher: Absolutely. We just always go back to the snake. You were discussing how you came across this with the whole research of plant medicine and expanding your mind and consciousness. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that you did ayahuasca, 

[00:10:25] Corbin: so it would initially start off as a scholarly study it Correct it.

[00:10:28] Corbin: Of course it's 

[00:10:29] Sher: eduKitaenional. 

[00:10:30] Corbin: At a certain point, adventure beckons and calls, and I found myself in the jungle rainforest of Peru. And I was in the backseat of a very small car going down a very windy road into the jungles of obo. And I was white knuckling, gripping the hand of my You had snake 

[00:10:51] Sher: curves on this road, did you?

[00:10:52] Corbin: Oh, absolutely. And this would be my later wife. And I'm going, what in the world have we, if we're ever gonna be taken, like I don't have a Liam Neeson dad with a certain set of skills, so we are gonna be truly screwed with this. You're on your own pal. But fortunately what ended up happening was we were led to a really wonderful camp and then ushered into another dimensional reality.

[00:11:20] Corbin: Now that would be, I. Sort of my first glimpse into that. And the thing with these processes, the way that it goes is that it's a it happens in sequence and there's a, there's a cleansing aspect initially to this medicine, and there is a aspect that, wow, it's limitless in the potential of your thought.

[00:11:41] Corbin: And your ability to tune in and connect. And so one of the things, the short answer to your question is yes, but the circumstances of that were in the context of my travels in Peru and in places where that is legal and working with a shaman who is also educated in singing songs that are called Ros.

[00:12:02] Corbin: And those Ros, and so much of this work is, and even this life is vibrational in its nature projections of light. And so the, when the ingesting the medicine in a sense isn't necessarily enough when you pair it with sound and specifically songs, there's a awakening that begins to happen within the body.

[00:12:23] Corbin: It, this is where it gets very strange. Because here I am in the year 2020 ish, some visa, no, it couldn't have been, it was a little bit before, but here, regardless, I'm a modern man. And this is something that precedes me by thousands of years in terms of the understanding that people would access altered states of consciousness and therefore understanding beyond themselves by engaging in whether it was fermented wine.

[00:12:48] Corbin: And we get ergot or we're dealing with indigenous South American tribes that are quite literally using ayahuasca back then. You ask them. Where'd you get the idea to combine this vine with that and compare this with the NHA OI inhibitor that allows your body to ingest the DMT when normally that would just be burned off in the acidity of the stomach.

[00:13:08] Corbin: And it's they'll just say the plants. So then it comes to this very interesting place where you go, what, how are the plants communicating and how do plants even have a degree of consciousness, let's say they do though. They do. And this is where we get, and we really see this very clearly with mushrooms.

[00:13:28] Corbin: So when you start to look at fungus, which in many ways, human beings themselves are some really hyper evolved ambulatory fungus that's going on this planet. But we can see communication through the mycelium network. Yeah, 

[00:13:40] Sher: I was gonna say, I mean it for people that don't understand that if you've watched the show or played the game, the Last of us, that's not a joke.

[00:13:48] Sher: That's not Hollywood made up. There is communication going with mycelium. 

[00:13:53] Corbin: It is not a joke. There is literally a zombie hoard of infected mushroom people outside. So beware. Don't go outside. I believe it. Listen, the Last Bus is a documentary. Listen, they were 

[00:14:04] Sher: all driving today in the Kansas City Metro.

[00:14:07] Sher: Trust me, they were. They were everywhere today. 

[00:14:11] Corbin: There's something that happens with the way that these stories will hit at a certain point in the evolution of the collective consciousness. And I think the Avengers movies or sometimes those Hollywood tint poles are really good benchmarks of where we are as a civilization in our collective processing and realization.

[00:14:26] Corbin: And I think where we're moving into with the secret wars and the doomsday is actually quite promising. If we're looking towards, we wanna get positive conspiracy, I think that the implications of that are promising. But 

[00:14:37] Sher: go we can go down the Marvel Rabbit hole Oh, and multiverse and everything, anytime, 

[00:14:41] Corbin: but I'm gonna need another drink.

[00:14:43] Corbin: Then the, okay but the, this case of the plants trying to figure out, okay, the plants are communicating to us. And for some reason, whenever the plants decide to communicate with us specifically in this really sacred form with this DMT ingestion, then there, there's this holy serpent.

[00:15:00] Corbin: That just continually shows up. And whether it's like in the form of somebody purging because it's often associated with vomiting or Right. Purging in some capacity that the snakes will be coming out of somebody's mouth or the snake will be consuming someone or a snake will coil around someone and through that they'll enter a kind of cocoon and then be reborn.

[00:15:22] Corbin: But we even think about the archetype of the snake in its mythological or ancient context. It's this healing and transformation because it sheds its skin. Once again, that oro boros, even in our spine. The Kundalini. Yeah, exactly. And the kundalini, there's this concept of once again awakening that cosmic serpent within us that then allows us to potentially travel at the speed of thought.

[00:15:45] Corbin: We'll just say that the, because time 

[00:15:46] Sher: is not linear. Time is just a construct 

[00:15:49] Corbin: of the mind. And if this is in fact a portal of the mind, then that's why there is no limit to the range at which one can traverse. If they are untethered from their body to be able to get to that space, one would have to be incredibly dialed in with their meditation practice where they can activate what I understand to be their sort of energetic MEbA where they can revolve these pyramids that are within themselves that kind of overlay and create this momentum that is a little bit of an energy starve vehicle for the soul.

[00:16:24] Corbin: This is probably sounding really wild, but this gets into all of my study into Egyptology in which we're talking about like individuations of the self being broken down into the mayor of the KA and the ba that there is within us, the physical manifestation, but then attached to that something that the Egyptians would always pair with having wings.

[00:16:41] Corbin: It's almost like a spirit version of ourselves. And that may actually continue in its form of consciousness beyond the earthly incarnation. Isn't that the greatest mystery of all time that people have been trying to solve and why you go into the altered state? 'cause when you're in the altered state, suddenly your time suddenly does become relative, or at least in many ways, not nearly as much of a confining force.

[00:17:04] Corbin: And this is just a really long way of saying where it led me was to this thing of going, okay, could it be that panspermia, like that theory of the evolution of life on earth might actually have some merit, but it would be along the lines of something with snake DNA coming into and being introduced into the ecosystem of earth.

[00:17:30] Sher: Last season we discussed Reptilians with a woman who communes with him. Yeah. I kid you not, and she's, no. Do you feel like with that whole snake, DNA, that there is some, based on what you found in, your spiritual travels and such, is there maybe some sort of relevancy to the whole reptilian?

[00:17:51] Sher: Hundred 

[00:17:52] Corbin: percent. Oh okay. I'm not gonna go out on a limb and say that I 100% know or can confirm the reptilian conspiracy, but what I will say is that long before our civilization that we currently talk about, there's clearly a whole realm and. Epoch that is ruled by giant reptilian Jesus Christ that roamed the world.

[00:18:14] Corbin: So I'm not gonna sit here and try to pretend oh God, how farfetched is it? Because we got a bunch of monkeys and primates that I can visit in the zoo still, and they are a far cry from a human being. But evolution has its process over millions of years. It does. And I'm also not gonna sit here and try to pretend that I think that the human being develops completely organically.

[00:18:36] Corbin: I, I think that obviously evolution has undergone a certain way, but we may have had an assistance somewhere in that whole period that the same thing. I would say, though, I could extend that same benefit of the doubt to any type of a four-legged reptilian critter or, it'd have to be a critter to be able to survive that post asteroid impact Earth.

[00:18:57] Sher: It would have to be a four-legged critter. It's. 

[00:19:00] Corbin: Yeah. And it's gonna have to, it's gonna have to go underground, is what I'm saying. Like it's not gonna be the most hospitable climate for you to be like living on the planet during that time. Evolution will take its course, but it's not out of the world or outta the realm of possibility to imagine that four-legged bipedal or that four-legged creature eventually begins to become bipedal, develops its brain mass through cooking and being able to consume more proteins like in the similar way that we talk about the stone deep theory or any of our human evolution.

[00:19:28] Corbin: A lot of that could just be played out if you wanted to entertain that thought experiment that a lot of that could been going on in the underneath the surface of the planet. In the millions of years that have happened since dinosaurs, here's what I can say with like total bath and assurity, asteroid impact what inherits the planet.

[00:19:47] Corbin: Snakes the surface of the planet. There's not, and 

[00:19:51] Laz: mushrooms. 

[00:19:52] Corbin: Yeah absolutely right. So there Snakes 

[00:19:54] Sher: and mushrooms. Yeah, they, there's this thing, 

[00:19:55] Corbin: First of all we want to think about what is the biggest mamma jama colonizer of planet Earth, like really, truly infected this planet and made it, its bitch would be carbon trees like trees.

[00:20:09] Corbin: Colonize this planet to know. So then what does the tree need? The tree needs the fungus because the tree breathes in the carbon dioxide exhales, the oxygen the fungus brings in the oxygen exhales, the carbon dioxide. So you need that symbiotic system. And so we've got fungus thriving. We've got the, but then this, the, there's something that happens where this thing with a spine emerges uhhuh, and it's squiggling out of the sea and onto land.

[00:20:33] Corbin: And then from there it's growing its little appendages and then curring, and then up into the trees it goes. And, we might as well be looking at that whole evolution cycle, but there's this moment when earth is reeled from that Kitaenaclysm. And the only thing that really thrives in the sea or in dirt, and I'm not, we want to even go into concepts of titan Noboa, like 

[00:20:56] Sher: big 

[00:20:56] Corbin: snakes, 

[00:20:58] Sher: massive snakes.

[00:20:59] Sher: Kind of yeah. Where they talk about where Devil's Tower, they believe. Was a massive giant tree. Supposedly we have massive giant snakes that lived on the planet as well. 

[00:21:13] Corbin: There's this one, I asked, sourced that in, in one ceremony and was given like a Yeah, but Hey, we take without what you will li life's gone through a lot of phases of this planet.

[00:21:23] Announcer: Yeah. But 

[00:21:23] Corbin: if you wanna specifically understand why in this current iteration plants communicate in the way that they do, then we should acknowledge the connection and the thing that's there when you work with these shamans from, who are really well trained in this medicine and these IROs, the way that they communicate.

[00:21:42] Corbin: It's,

[00:21:46] Corbin: it's almost in a way, you're speAnnunaking parcel tongue. I don't want to say that because usually my association being brought up as a Christian, let's say I'm born and raised in Oklahoma. I have a lot of associations with the serpent that aren't exactly positive. 

[00:22:00] Sher: I can imagine that it wasn't a positive thing.

[00:22:03] Corbin: Now it puts you in a conundrum though, when. The way that I would interact with, let's say this cosmic snake or these things, it would be a healing and a renewal process. A very much a shedding of the skin. And this gets to this concept of asclepius or the caduceus, why the snake is inherently the symbol of healing.

[00:22:25] Corbin: Now, also, let's not lose sight of the fact that that caduceus the concept of like thoths or mercurius staph is the double helix of DNA itself. There is something that and then this gets into what is DNA and this is all rooting back to a book that, that this whole, process of going into understanding plant medicines and this concept that I get introduced to Panspermia, which is basically that alien DNA travels via comet to a planet and therefore is allowed to thrive and propagate.

[00:22:58] Corbin: A great example of this would just be octopuses. 'cause they're not organically from earth. They're 

[00:23:03] Sher: No they are not. If our buddy Kip was here, we've had many a discussion on this. I don't believe that octopi or octopuses, however you wanna refer to them. There's some debate about that and squid are. I don't believe they're, they evolved on this planet.

[00:23:21] Sher: I really don't. I believe that oppi, I was explain. Typically proven. Now they have, and I've been saying, but I've been saying this forever and I believe that octopi are good. They can be bad. They can hurt you obviously, but I think they're good squid. I wouldn't trust a fucking squid if my life depended and I'll eat those son of a bitches all day long.

[00:23:41] Sher: But not an octopus. An won't octopus, but I'll let 

[00:23:43] Corbin: them inside me. I, after 

[00:23:48] Sher: they've been, after they've been killed several. After 

[00:23:48] Corbin: they've been several. Deep God in calamari. 

[00:23:51] Sher: There you have it. Yes. 

[00:23:52] Corbin: But and what got me was that, and I talk about this in terms of the collective consciousness. I went to film school at USC, like I've made movies.

[00:23:59] Corbin: I'm really deep into, I don't always necessarily know if it's predictive programming. In some cases I think that it is. But I also think that there's something that creatives tap into, which the time is actually I. Time is irrelevant in that state. You're tapping into something that's bigger than you.

[00:24:16] Corbin: It's only to say, I'm watching the Venom movies back when they decide to launch a trilogy of those without Spider-Man in them. And it seemed like the whole point of that is to convey that there's this, venom entity. It's an alien symbiote that's in a comet and it comes to earth and then as a result it's introduced into the spor environment and ceases to replicate itself or whatever.

[00:24:35] Corbin: And I'm going, wow, I wonder if that's what's going on with DNA on planet earth. And it is somehow linked into some form of snake origin, which is why the plant still echo that, which is why there's this reptilian origin with terror in its ancient forms. What point, like primates and humans emerge from that.

[00:24:58] Corbin: Oh, we can play a lot of fun games. Hopefully don't involve the Annunaki. 

[00:25:01] Sher: We may have to bring you back to have that discussion 

[00:25:06] Corbin: all unto itself. That one's a really fun one. But the where I was getting to it was going, what if it really all comes down to this concept of the serpent, and this could even be the core of my spine, my internal antenna uhhuh.

[00:25:21] Corbin: And there's this book by Jack Narby that's called The Cosmic Serpent. And it was exploring a lot of these concepts specifically related to pan sperm. And one of the things that he points out in the book that I just think is so powerful is it's like, what is DNA? And I think that DNA in itself is representative of the potential for consciousness.

[00:25:41] Corbin: So there's a lot of matter that you're gonna find in on planet Earth, but there's not necessarily a consciousness that's inhabiting that matter. For instance, it would be like rocks or minerals versus if I engage with smoking tobacco, there's actually an energetic spirit that inhabits that plant. And people may say that I'm crazy, but it's like the mushrooms will make music if you put the proper nodes into them, and then based on their communiKitaenion, 'cause it's happening whether or not you are attuned to it.

[00:26:08] Corbin: The way, another great way of thinking about this is like we live in a civilization where right now we're engaging in conversation in real time over right? The internet. Explain that to an ant. Impossible. But the ant, as a, as an individuation of a greater collective colony, has that internal communiKitaenion, maybe in a way that surpasses our understanding of the internet.

[00:26:31] Sher: Ants can actually communicate in, in better ways than we can via the internet, between the scent markers they leave behind, what they're putting out energetically with the antenna, the whole thing. They know, and they know when they're part of their group and when it's a different one. And they know, and it, they collectively know.

[00:26:49] Corbin: And there's something about that collective telepathic knowing that I think is accessible to humanity as well. But it's once again, explain to the ant the internet and explain to a human who uses the internet the ways that an ant finds itself as being a mechanism of the colony or hive mind.

[00:27:05] Corbin: My brain starts to take that and put it into celestial intelligence within Star Systems. Stars themselves could very well be conscious. And in fact, every single one of our individuations is a manifestation of that dream, a collective dream. And so within a solar system, everything that, pours out from that solar system, it has a spiritual embodiment to it.

[00:27:26] Corbin: But the interesting thing is, it's not just like a spirit. It's like I was saying earlier before, if I smoking tobacco, I'm engaging in communing with that consciousness of the DNA that's in that plant. But at the same time, it is a physical embodiment of a plant. One thing that I've been grounded in is that every single time my brain wants to say, okay, I really understand this on a spiritual level, and I go, oh, it's actually a thing on the spiritual level.

[00:27:50] Corbin: Like I'll experience this and we'll get into this later on in the story. Then I get the slapped in the face with the reality that it, now, it's not just a spiritual concept, it's also a physical you, a physical 

[00:28:02] Sher: construct going on here too. There's an a physical, or not construct, but so much as an embodiment, if I understand what you're saying correctly.

[00:28:11] Corbin: And so then we get to concepts like dragon. A Dragon is a really fantastical creature. It's captured human imagination forever. Clearly, I can go back through all of these different mythologies and I see this. Vision. And I go, okay, cool. So I know we have the dinosaurs, but then when we get to this concept of these things literally flying, I know we got pterodactyls, but just the representation of a dragon versus a pterodactyl quite distinct.

[00:28:38] Corbin: Yeah. And then I get into concepts of the zodiac, why does Dragon possess such a pivotal place? And as a person who's a year of the dragon, myself, I've always had a rather strong affinity for these creatures. I just always basically wrote it off as mythology. And we're gonna jump a ahead here to a different point in my experience working with this, but I've read the Jack Narby book.

[00:28:57] Corbin: I understand the kind of conceptual thought of Panspermia and that maybe we got some snake juice that got injected into a primordial earth via a different star system. Something happened with that star system. A little piece of it got traveled off in ice and it arrived in earth as a comment.

[00:29:13] Corbin: And then there's just a very successful version of an octopus given the trajectory of billions of years. Then I am working in another ceremony and there's a, an eeros that's being sung and it's really activating a visualization for me. And I'm in the room, I'm seeing a big snake and it's swimming around the room, but it's swimming in the air, it's flying.

[00:29:38] Corbin: The way that my brain interpreted it was a dragon as opposed to it being like an anaconda, purely because there was a gracefulness to its sort of side winding motion, but it didn't have any legs very much felt like a Chinese dragon, 

[00:29:53] Sher: like the one you would see in 47. Ronan. 

[00:29:55] Corbin: Yeah. So I'm marveling at it side winding, like it's a game of snake on my cell phone and I'm trying to, keep it from hitting the edges and then this thing just turns on me like it's a Jaws 3D movie.

[00:30:06] Corbin: And the first time going okay, this is intense, and it just goes straight towards me and swallows me. Wait, what? 

[00:30:15] Sher: You're in the middle of I'm the ceremony. I'm Ayahuasca and this giant 47 Ronan Dragon Snake. Not like Harry Potter. And what is it? The, 

[00:30:28] Corbin: yeah the Gobble Fire one. Yeah. Unit Goblin 

[00:30:30] Sher: of fire.

[00:30:30] Sher: Okay. So not that snake. We're talking 47 Ronan Bragging. Comes around and he swallows you whole. 

[00:30:37] Corbin: Yeah. And it was like an iridescent rainbow. The nature of a lot of that stuff in that realm gets real rainbowy. It, yeah. It comes in, it swallows me, but there's a moment of surrender.

[00:30:48] Corbin: But I would say that it's was more intense and real of an experience than any 3D movie I've ever been in. And, I have a fondness for them. And the moment that it totally swallowed me. I was in the rost. It was really fascinating. I've seen, hold 

[00:31:01] Sher: on again. We're talking like hy might as well be literally outta the 

[00:31:07] Corbin: Marvel universe.

[00:31:08] Corbin: The way that Rainbow Bridge works. There's that great moment in Dr. Strange when she, the ancient one taps his forehead and he like blast off and he pops out. I think that's like essentially a, an aspect of astral projection there. The best way that I could say this is that whatever was going on in me internally was projecting a visualization of that same process where that the medicine that I was seeing towards me was rising towards my third eye and pineal gland, and it fully absorbing my pineal gland was the moment of my connection.

[00:31:42] Corbin: And so a tether gets established between me and it's one of a few times that I've ever astral projected. I've only ever astral projected when working with plant medicine. Specifically in, in the scenario with E. But I know that there are individuals that can just do this without that where, and it was like really fast.

[00:32:00] Corbin: I'll never understand the extent of how much travel happened, but this really gets me into this concept of interdimensional travel. It is a mind bend, especially when we start looking at UFO ology, how these things blip out of a dimensional experience and then almost through a wrinkle of time type of logic will travel through the, at the speed of thought to another dimensional point and then re manifest.

[00:32:22] Corbin: 'cause that's essentially what happened to my spirit. I blipped maybe a couple of seconds later right into a spirit body and whenever I've astral projected, I have a GPS loKitaenor of just wherever my spirit is. I just know, okay, I don't know. How to describe it because I, by based on any, like there was no indiKitaenion, oh, you've arrived here.

[00:32:44] Corbin: Yeah. There was no 

[00:32:45] Sher: road sign, 

[00:32:46] Corbin: But both times. One happened to me with kind of a past life thing where I ended up in the Temple of Edfu in Egypt and I just knew, Hey, you're in the Temple of Edfu in Egypt. And then this time I was just in on Sirius B. 

[00:32:58] Sher: Let me back up a minute. You do the plant medicine, you're doing this whole thing.

[00:33:02] Sher: You, you've been swallowed by the dragon, now you're traveling, interdimensionally, you're going ahead and folding time for lack of a better term and going to different places, different wrinkles and time. I love that reference. As you're experiencing all of this, are you still within the serpent?

[00:33:21] Corbin: No. Later in a fascination, after waking up from this whole experience, we go back and be like, what just happened to me? Yeah. The amount of people that you will find on Reddit online, talking about being swallowed by a snake or slash a dragon and then being inter dimensionally transported is frankly hilarious.

[00:33:40] Corbin: But this really gets back to this core concept in our mythology about riding on the back of a dragon, right? What does it mean? Oh neverending 

[00:33:46] Sher: story. Hello? Yes. And I was, you're riding on the back of the dragon. 

[00:33:50] Corbin: I was bastion, fist pumping the whole way. And I think that there is really something to that where dragons can essentially function, at least in the spiritual essence as a portal, if you will, where you can ride a dragon if and this is why I say space snakes finds you.

[00:34:07] Corbin: I didn't find the dragon. Should you be in a state where you attract one in and it chooses to take you on, then it could take you for a ride somewhere. Think of it like that. It's almost like game, but you don't know where you're 

[00:34:23] Sher: going. 

[00:34:23] Corbin: The dragon needs to take you wherever you need to go. The dragon, I, in that case you're surrendering your path.

[00:34:28] Corbin: 'cause Falco knows what's best for atray you or Bastion, next on the journey in fighting the nothing but, but there's that, there's like kind of a concept in video games where you'll just, it's like you get to that zone and then you get transported off to, it's like a almost a highway infrastructure.

[00:34:44] Corbin: And I think that this is where sort we get into this concepts of even where the biros comes from. It's very akin to being in an altered state of mind and being able to travel interdimensionally at the speed of thought. Now I, am I gonna limit us and say a dragon's the only way to do that? No, but I will say, out of the potential possibilities that exist in this universe, dragon may be one way of instantaneous interdimensional travel, as I have personally experienced it.

[00:35:10] Corbin: So 

[00:35:11] Sher: during this experience. It took you along the rost, for lack of a better term we're gonna stick with what we know here. Thank you Marvel comics. But we're gonna stick with what we know. And it takes you, you said to serious B. 

[00:35:26] Corbin: Yeah. At that point, basically Dragon's gone, but my spirit body remains and I'm really deep underwater.

[00:35:33] Corbin: It's not a problem to me because I, my spear body doesn't need to breathe, but I'm ghostly. And this, once again, I wanna relate this stuff back to Dr. Strange because I think that this stuff gets portrayed to us on purpose for a reason. 'cause there is some level of familiarity with it. He has kinda my astro bodies there and there's a lot of coral vegetation that's around me, striking oranges that contrast the blues and everything's moving in the ocean.

[00:35:57] Corbin: When I look up like mega above me, it's almost like clouds moving overhead. But what I'm seeing is big snakes like whale. Okay. Whale 

[00:36:10] Sher: size snakes. 

[00:36:11] Corbin: Yeah. And they're singing in the water. 

[00:36:14] Sher: Wait, what? 

[00:36:15] Corbin: Yeah. And the songs are really beautiful, like angelic kind of music, 

[00:36:22] Sher: not like whale song. We're talking like, m kind of music.

[00:36:27] Corbin: Yeah. Exactly. See. And then we're gonna get into this thing of why are these certain things associated the way that they are, even if we wanna look at them biblically, where seraphim are associated with the dulce music. Or even the association of Seraphim with something reptilian. So I'm there underwater and I'm looking up at the giant whale snakes.

[00:36:45] Corbin: And these things are like big time teachers. So it's like, what I'm understanding is the songs that they're singing carry, like a ripple effect of frequency that produces, let's say we can even just peace, harmony, that kind of nature. Like 

[00:37:00] Sher: binaural beats. 

[00:37:01] Corbin: But it was, yeah, it was majorly different than any interpretation that I've ever had of a serpent on earth because I didn't see it in any way as being predatory.

[00:37:12] Corbin: There was something that was much more maternal about it all energetically. Now, given, I'm also like not actually, fish in the ecosystem of Series B, so probably, yeah. You weren't 

[00:37:24] Sher: Part of the food show. I wasn't. Not the food show. You were a visitor. Okay. 

[00:37:28] Corbin: But I was looking at that and I was going, wow, there's some real wisdom in these songs.

[00:37:33] Corbin: And these things started to really click for me about why it is that shamans sing the way that they do. And where all of these, let's just say that if Egypt had a connection to any planet and a real reverence for it, Sirius B would be one of them. As I really later come find, is that the 

[00:37:55] Sher: dog star?

[00:37:56] Sher: Serious is the dog star, correct? Yeah. And 

[00:37:58] Corbin: it's a binal star system. So what's really fascinating about it is that they have more than one son. And if you have more than one son, then the stories that you tell on your planet are completely different. What I mean by that is like we have one son and and our moon Oh boy, don't even, we need to have you back on another episode.

[00:38:15] Corbin: Just talk about the moon. 

[00:38:16] Sher: Okay. I'm just gonna tell you right now, you are a friend of the show, so you are gonna be welcome back. 

[00:38:20] Corbin: Great. 

[00:38:21] Announcer: I don't know 

[00:38:22] Sher: la I guess I should have looked at you and said, are you good with Evan and back? I'm finding this absolutely fascinating.

[00:38:28] Laz: Yeah, absolutely. And I'm gonna go back a little bit and when you mentioning the big serpent swallowed you up, that was basically like, for lack of a better word, a a serpent Uber just to pick you up and take you somewhere else's I that there's way, yeah. And so it's not like the Oh, deadly snake in a basket.

[00:38:47] Laz: It's Hey, I'm here to pick you up. We're just going, 

[00:38:50] Sher: It's Uber Eats 

[00:38:52] Laz: I'm the, yeah, I'm the journeyman on the boat. We're going across the River Thames. Now you're talking about religion and you're talking about snakes. This, my first thought was going back to the, I believe it's, if I pronounce this correctly the O fights who did all the snake handling the snake handlers, the serpent, the basically the fundamentalists and the churches and the revivals that dances with snakes.

[00:39:15] Laz: And that goes back, to the second century. And when you, early on in the podcast you mentioned the mushrooms, and I'm just started reading a book called the Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, and which talks about, it's a study of nature of the origin of Christianity and how everything religion is like the ultimate game of telephone.

[00:39:38] Laz: And 

[00:39:39] Laz: it goes back to this one talks about how mushrooms were pretty much. For all. Religions and opening your mind and everything, which kind of segues into the ayahuasca trip. There 

[00:39:52] Corbin: you go. It's so funny. There would, in Siberia, the shaman would come down the chimney, around the winter solstice. Then everyone, he would bring the mushrooms to everyone so that they could enjoy it.

[00:40:04] Corbin: So the, obviously this is evolving into the concept of Santa Claus. And of course when people would pee outside after eating the Amina masra, it would attract the reindeer. Who all would all gather and then the mushrooms themselves would grow underneath a pine tree. So we look at even the concept of Christmas and all core traditions.

[00:40:23] Corbin: Yeah. So much of it, it comes down to the these things, and that's what I was always fascinated by. Like, where does it come from? Here I am on a foreign planet, a binary star system, which also means that they're not so dualistic here. It's not night and day, it's not good and evil. It's not death and rebirth.

[00:40:40] Corbin: Our planet is so dualistic and it's trying to teach us the lesson of polarity. I honestly think, as far as I can understand, that's the point of the incarnation, but I, that's a tough point to get in the game without going through a bunch of times. But here on this planet, it's like the light may never go away.

[00:41:01] Corbin: What happens if you never have a night? Do you grow up with the same fear and anxiety, or is there more of a, of an Ubuntu world where it's constant abundance and we don't have to fret or consider these things and just in that way, culture, civilization, life, it evolves in just a completely different way.

[00:41:20] Corbin: Where 

[00:41:20] Sher: if we don't have that duality that I think the serpent represents your dark and light fear and love, all the different things that come together, I've gotta believe that we stunt our growth stunts. If we don't have that duality, 

[00:41:37] Corbin: Maybe. But I would say that there's probably some intergalactic civilizations out there that may beg to differ because they really had to fight themselves and go to war with themselves in order to love and accept them 

[00:41:49] Sher: Not with themselves.

[00:41:51] Sher: I don't mean in, in that respect that they have to fight themselves, but they, there's gotta be the, whether you have day, an inner conflict or nighttime, some sort of a balance, a duality. Would you say not necessarily like evil and good, but you've got literally dark at night, daylight, daytime, so you've got that difference of fear and love.

[00:42:13] Sher: I don't think you can have fear without love. Oh, totally. Yeah. 

[00:42:17] Sher: You're right on that. What do you, what you have to fear if you don't have the thought of losing love 

[00:42:23] Laz: the simulation on the 

[00:42:26] Corbin: Yeah the simulation doesn't work if you don't have the opposite of light, which would be the darkness, right?

[00:42:30] Corbin: Or, yeah. And what that speaks to is a concept of polarity that's we're not the same, but we're one versus we're different. And so we're separate. And so we're separate as an illusion. And that's where I get into this concept of like duality. The polarity is. We are compliments, but it's a little bit more of looking at the yin yang as opposed to or even in a way, like the nature of a chess board.

[00:42:54] Corbin: It's one board, but there's two sides to it. That is how I think that this planet operates inherently. But a lot of people get real caught up and spend their entire lives championing one side or the other as opposed to the sports team. 

[00:43:06] Sher: It really is. 

[00:43:07] Corbin: So how many times do you have to go through the, that experience of rooting for a particular team before you, you remember, and by remember, literally remember that It's one, and what I was getting from this place was that it, it wasn't that, it wasn't a, it wasn't a duality matrix as I call earth also.

[00:43:26] Corbin: So 

[00:43:26] Sher: You're swimming around giant snakes singing the I'm on my 

[00:43:29] Corbin: mat. I'm also on my mat this entire time in my, but regardless, 

[00:43:33] Sher: there's duality there. You're in two places at the same time. 

[00:43:36] Corbin: Exactly. A me person swims up to me. 

[00:43:38] Sher: Wait, there. Okay. 

[00:43:41] Corbin: Yeah. All right. In fact, now to call this a mer person is like, whoa, not gonna be like any mermaid from Pirates of the Caribbean.

[00:43:49] Corbin: No. Or anything like that. It was like humanoid ish fish, but also definitely like a dolphin. It had really, so not Jason 

[00:43:59] Sher: Momoa Aquaman? No, not Aquaman. 

[00:44:01] Corbin: Sad. That is a 

[00:44:02] Sher: damn shame. That is a damn shame that they don't look like Jason Momoa, but he just rolls 

[00:44:09] Corbin: up and go, 

[00:44:09] Sher: woo. And I'd be like, I'm down for it.

[00:44:12] Sher: Drown me. Do it. Yeah, go for it. Yeah, 

[00:44:14] Corbin: just make me your et I'll never phone home. 

[00:44:17] Sher: Gimme some gills and I'm good to go. 

[00:44:19] Corbin: That's so funny. This was very much, not that it was but it was very much the kind of experience that I would have meeting a dolphin in open water. Where there's some initial curiosity and it swam up to me and everything's energetic.

[00:44:33] Corbin: There was no actual words, but the feeling that I was getting was like 

[00:44:35] Sher: I got, I get it. Very dolphin. That almost sounds like a valley girl Dolphin. 

[00:44:42] Corbin: Yeah. 

[00:44:44] Sher: That's like moon unit Zappa right there. 

[00:44:47] Corbin: Kind of the just check checking me out and being like, what are you doing here?

[00:44:49] Corbin: This is very interesting. Hello, nice to meet you. Go on your way. So I, came back into my body shortly after that, the ceremony was ending and the calls and the big activations and transportations, whatever had been done. And I just was exhilarated. I could not wait to try to figure out how to, with my analytical mind, go and legitimize all of it.

[00:45:09] Corbin: I didn't. Sure. Great. What I had experienced ultimately led me into a very fun encounter with this this sort of like folklore that relates to the Dogon tribe in Mali, Africa. The Dogon have this very, very ancient civilization, but they have a cave. They have this position in their tribe where or in their village where someone is elected in order to watch over this cave and for all of their waking life, they do this in shifts until they die.

[00:45:41] Corbin: And then they hire a new person that comes and he watches over the cave. Eventually they finally were like, there were some anthropologists that were curious and they decided to be open and they let them inside the cave. And when they go inside the cave, there's all of these cave etchings and it's the, it's star charts, and it's all of this information about the orbit of serious B and the nature of its multi star system and the 

[00:46:10] Sher: planet that you were on.

[00:46:11] Sher: Your experience, one of them. 

[00:46:13] Corbin: So it's basically there's a couple of different planets within the Ural star system, but one that, that I was on is a big ocean planet, specifically called serious B in, in relation to one of those stars being serious B. But this like planet, I don't know as far as we call it on earth, it's just the serious B planet.

[00:46:29] Corbin: The Dogon have this whole insistence. It's where did you guys get all of this? You guys have had this cave and all of this information since far before we had telescopes or any of this figured out and. Where'd it come from? And the Dogon are like, oh, the, there basically was this group of aliens.

[00:46:42] Corbin: They were like Mer people, and the Mer people came and then they landed and then shared all this information with us about where they came from, 

[00:46:50] Sher: the guys that met you and went, Hey, what's going on? Why are you here? 

[00:46:53] Corbin: That was just the strangest part of it for me because I was like, in my investigation for it to be confirmed that there were, they were essentially phish people.

[00:47:00] Corbin: There's some real fun stuff if you want to get into that, that Phish aspect and the Pope's hat. 

[00:47:05] Sher: Yes. Really? Really? Okay. I don't know about this. Les, I gather, a little bit about 

[00:47:11] Laz: this. I've heard a little bit, I've heard reference to this, 

[00:47:14] Corbin: And this could generally be like even in reference to something Pisces related, but there, there's just this really fun anecdote about this very ancient tribe literally being visited by visitors that they claim were from Sir B, here's all of our star charts and our cave, that we couldn't have possibly gotten this information from any other source otherwise.

[00:47:32] Corbin: And then this just happened to be Phish people. That was a real kind of cherry on top scenario for me. And so then I was like, okay, could it be, I'm spitballing here, but the idea was serious B may be a much older star system or civilization than Earth. And perhaps there was some kind of a remnant of it that or a similar civilization that through a planetary Kitaenaclysm, I don't know.

[00:47:58] Corbin: Planets get blown up all the time. Yeah, some absolutely blew up and hit primordial earth. And then this ended up fostering this whole concept of like snakes on this planet. And then that ended up shaping the whole way that life formed on Mother Tara. And I was just cool with that. I was like, yeah, good book.

[00:48:19] Corbin: Jack Narby. Yeah, maybe there is some. Cosmic serpent that's out there, and it's like a spiritual, energetic force. And this could be like the dragons and these, there's a metaphorical lens. And I was good. And I closed the book. I said ain't that something? And then there was just this thing that was in me, and I was like, just Google Snakes in space.

[00:48:41] Corbin: And I was like, okay, here we go. Ridiculous. Here we go. And I had to. And so I decided to literally do that. And of course I got the, this wonderful anecdote, the curious case of story, Mustgrave, which, there's always these fun things about people who, astronauts who actually go off in the space and then they report what they saw, and then we'd say, this person's insane.

[00:49:02] Sher: And for those who don't know, Story Musgrave, like Corbin said. Astronaut did six different missions, highly respected, retired astronaut. Might I have. At least he was. 

[00:49:16] Corbin: No, you can, no way. I, he 

[00:49:17] Sher: still is, but 

[00:49:18] Corbin: NASA doesn't send you to space once, unless you're a highly expected individual.

[00:49:23] Corbin: Six 

[00:49:23] Sher: times. He went to space six times, 

[00:49:27] Corbin: six more times than I've been in the physical flesh. And so I'm watching his re recounts and this guy goes up to the International Space Station twice and he said both times. Both times. That's the funniest part to me. Films an object out in space that he's I don't know what it could be.

[00:49:44] Corbin: It seemed like it was a space snake. And sure enough, you watch these things and the story will be that it's a piece of space debris. It's space junk. Rubber. 

[00:49:53] Sher: Rubber, that, it was rubber that came a, came off a seal on the space station, the back of it or something. From what I understand, he started backtracking on his story.

[00:50:02] Sher: 'cause NASA got mad at him when he did an interview with sightings, the show sightings. They hadn't had the information shared with them that he was sharing with sightings about the space snakes. If you go to YouTube Yeah. It shows what he sees. That doesn't look like a piece of rubber. 

[00:50:20] Corbin: And see, and what, in what scenario is the piece of rubber around in space?

[00:50:24] Corbin: Void The rubber. Give it the odds that a Tesla rocket launch goes awry. A lot of that, gets burned. There's corpse 

[00:50:32] Sher: Of the chimpanzees and the dogs. They sent to space when they die, and they're still floating around in space. So he's saying, it could have been just a piece of rubber that, a seal that came off the back of the space station 

[00:50:44] Laz: and that's not alarming at all.

[00:50:45] Announcer: Oh, yeah. 

[00:50:46] Sher: Especially with the two that we just brought home. Hello. Thank you. Is this 

[00:50:49] Laz: important? No. Throw it out the window. Okay. Go. Just 

[00:50:51] Sher: toss it out. Let it go. The film that we see that he filmed, that does not look like a piece of rubber in any way, shape or form. It's what you described during your experience with the ayahuasca is this, you're AEs moving undulating.

[00:51:09] Sher: Snake. 

[00:51:09] Corbin: The way that it even moves is even more hilarious to me in the footage because it seems to use the centrifugal force of moving its tail and its head in order to propel itself in the vacuum of space. So it's like a constant kind of propeller action of its own kind of elasticity.

[00:51:28] Sher: It looked like, if you're ice fishing like an auger, that's the kind of motion it was taking 

[00:51:33] Corbin: for me to go over here and say, okay, that thing that Story Musgrave observed is similar to, let's say, the literal form of what I figuratively or spiritually experienced. I don't agree with that.

[00:51:45] Corbin: I would say that one may not require panspermia in order to get space snake, DNA on primordial planet Earth, at least something that's so elaborate as a giant comet with ice that allows for something that is serpent DNA in order to find its way to this planet. Like it may just be. There's some space snakes and that occasionally they don't burn up in entry into a planet I, and they show 

[00:52:09] Sher: up so they, they don't burn up.

[00:52:11] Corbin: Need to answer this question so preposterous. 

[00:52:14] Sher: But we have space snakes here, or at least parts of them. 

[00:52:17] Corbin: Yeah. I, and this is just where I go what is real? Because I'm pretty sure at this point that I actually don't, I'm not 100% sure that the moon is not artificial. We'll just say that. I think our concepts of the Star Wars death Star may come from something that is more deeper buried in our collective consciousness.

[00:52:36] Corbin: Because I know that one of the things that was really triggered to me, or brought to my attention is if I wanted to understand the way why this world is the way that it is, then I have to understand where the moon came from. And for a lot of times I was taking that sort of in a panspermia direction.

[00:52:49] Corbin: What if that object that hit Earth caused that cataclysm initially that created the moon? 'cause this chunk of earth went off and the most developed of the moon. Just interestingly, the more that I understand about what actually 

[00:53:02] Sher: it's artificially created, 

[00:53:03] Corbin: And so that's when I go to I'm in a camp where I listen to Stephen Greer and I am in that theory that the moon landing both happened and was fabriKitaened because you needed something to switch into in the event that we went up to the moon and we weren't alone on the moon.

[00:53:20] Corbin: Something was already on the moon. Just like the same way that NASA will later get or mad at Story Musgrave is, they've been mad at Aldrin for talking about the towers or the structures that they find on the moon. 

[00:53:28] Sher: You know about the controversy with Neil Armstrong.

[00:53:31] Sher: Supposedly there was a two minute piece of conversation that glitched supposedly, but there are people that have heard it, that say Armstrong and would never admit it. Once he was back home on, on our planet, but he said to nasa, my God, even the babies are huge. They're everywhere. They're all lined up on the edge.

[00:53:57] Sher: Just as you're going to the dark side, they're all, they're lined up and they're watching us. That two minute piece of his broadcast back to us here on Earth, they say, glitched out. But the rumor is that was the transcript. My God, even the babies are huge. They're all lined up. They're all on the edge of the dark side, and they're watching us.

[00:54:24] Sher: When you hear things like that, I'm thinking, is the moon actually organic or is this, like you said, a death star thing? 

[00:54:32] Corbin: Yeah, I do the both and philosophy with this thing where the moon landing was both real and fake. This is Stephen Greer's position that we had to have some kind of an inkling that we might be going up there and then finding and discovering that there is something else already up there.

[00:54:45] Corbin: We needed a fail safe, to switch into, so all of these concepts of it being filmed on a sound stage, there is some veracity to that because it needed to be there so that we could switch into a different feed to the whole Stanley Cooper philosophy. Yeah, tell the story that Earth needed to hear at the time.

[00:55:01] Corbin: Now, meanwhile, we get told from the people up there Hey you're not ready for this. Don't come back. And then as a result from that we go, okay, we won't come back. But then to what degree do we really, because I believe with some of the UFO recovery projects that have happened, I think that we've had an astonishing degree and a lot of time with anti gravitational technology.

[00:55:21] Corbin: More than anything gets let on and then I start to look at the moon as being a, it's like a really good pit stop for this planet. I think that a lot of things work off of the moon, and I think that they work in conjunction with a lot of things that are underground on earth and all of, 

[00:55:36] Sher: so are you saying that the moon is like a Buckys?

[00:55:38] Laz: I was just gonna say, it's like a Buckys right there with you. 

[00:55:42] Corbin: The moon is like a really nice Buckys 

[00:55:45] Laz: shout out to Buckys. 

[00:55:46] Corbin: They probably gotta have some really good buffet or superior. You 

[00:55:50] Sher: can find anything there. And galactic 

[00:55:51] Corbin: stuff. Yeah. They've got it all from whether you're Zeta Reticulin or you're Reptil what you're looking for.

[00:55:57] Corbin: I honestly do think that's how it works and I think it's why we haven't gone back. But then I also, oh man, it's just such a slippery slope from there. So about us landing on the moon and how it rings as if it's hollow. Not to mention the, this really incredible way that the moon works in perfect synchronicity in relation to our sun.

[00:56:17] Corbin: It's as if it's trying to teach us something, if we really studied it. And so there's this part of me that, while I constantly and can feel like I'm livestock or Kitaentle, I also have to remind myself that I believe that this is an experience that I signed up for energetically karmically, whatever it may be, in order to learn a greater lesson.

[00:56:40] Corbin: Have I learned that lesson at this point? Man, I'm not so sure, but I'm on my way towards it and the space snakes helped. I don't think that space snakes is the destination. And I generally would encourage anybody with a, with a conspiratorial leaning mind man, the rabbit hole sometimes doesn't lead to the light at the end of the tunnel.

[00:56:57] Corbin: The rabbit hole leads to getting pretty more tunnels. 

[00:57:00] Laz: Yeah, sometimes it's a bug zapper. 

[00:57:02] Corbin: And buried. Buried an entrenched bug zapper. That's funny. It can truly be a watership down situation sometimes too, where it's like, all these caves are crumbling in around me. I tend to this point, and this just recently happened, right?

[00:57:14] Corbin: The pyramids, and there's all of this stuff about what's going on underneath Giza. Is there actually these mega structure cylinders that are, that actually go into an inner earth and we're talking about a city of a medi or like a gartha. Oh my gosh. Inner earth. Hollow earth. 

[00:57:33] Sher: Oh my God. Here we go.

[00:57:34] Sher: A Gartha hollow earth. 

[00:57:35] Corbin: There's a part of me that gets, wants to really go in there, because it always has been in me. I wanna know what's underneath, underneath the sphinx. That's why I went to Egypt, and I've always been about what's buried underneath the sand. The, one of the, I have this real strong attachment to this temple in Egypt called Edfu.

[00:57:50] Corbin: It's a temple of Horace, and one of the reasons why it's so well preserved is because Edfu was buried. For hundreds of years underneath the sand until it was actually excavated and found. 

[00:58:01] Sher: You're talking about serpents and everything. I of horrors the wat the whole nine yards. Come on.

[00:58:06] Corbin: Interestingly enough, whenever I am reading Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger, one of my favorite books he in that just happens to mention, yeah, if you ever find yourself associated with the Eye of Horace or the wa Jett symbol, it's because you share a Syrian lineage. 

[00:58:22] Sher: Did you not? Go blind in the eye that you paint the watch it simple on.

[00:58:28] Corbin: Yeah. With a Kitaenaract. When I was around, oh gosh. After I got introduced to Horace, I initially really when I started going through a crisis and wanted to be something that was bigger than myself and I started developing this alter ego fluid, all I wanted to do was be adopted by the Illuminati I wanted Last can 

[00:58:46] Sher: introduce you.

[00:58:46] Sher: 'cause I think the Freemasons are part of that whole thing as 

[00:58:50] Laz: a 32nd degree Mason. Yeah. I can, 

[00:58:52] Corbin: See. That's a big difference between a 32nd and a 33rd. Exactly. 

[00:58:57] Sher: There we have it again. 

[00:58:58] Corbin: I was at the point where I was like, give me 33rd, I'll do whatever. 

[00:59:02] Corbin: I want the power. I want the access.

[00:59:04] Corbin: I was very much like a little Alistair Crowley wannabe. 

[00:59:08] Sher: Okay. 

[00:59:09] Corbin: I ended up taking something that didn't belong to me and it, I. Ended up having a consequence to it. Part of that energetic exchange was the loss of my vision in that eye. It relayed also onto a new relationship that would eventually be my wife and the mother of my child.

[00:59:26] Corbin: I said, leaving you would be like, ouching not my right eye. I'd still see the world never in the same way. And a month after we broke up, shortly after I said that, I went blind in that right eye. And this gets into like how words are really, powerful in their manifestation capacity. They're the 

[00:59:40] Sher: most powerful weapon on the planet.

[00:59:43] Corbin: Yeah. And a weapon against ourselves. Now was it a weapon against ourselves? I'm not so sure. I asked for this and I asked to see something that was. Beyond, like I wanted the type of experiences of what I'm talking about with you all today because I wanted the ability to help share that with people.

[01:00:00] Corbin: Not, partially in a way that they'd be like, oh, what you got swallowed by a space snake. But then also in a way that they'd be like, yeah, actually I think that we are all one, even though we're not the same. And then maybe I don't kick the dog, or I'm a nicer person to my mom.

[01:00:13] Corbin: This is how I've always wanted to live and structure my life. And so I, I have to say that I asked for it, but what ended up happening was that I entered into a covenant with some Egyptian macros. I call 'em macros because it's like ideas and ideas influence human behavior, similar to like covid being a microbe.

[01:00:30] Corbin: But look how big of an impact it had on how we behaved, even though it's an invisible thing that we can't see, but we treat it like it's real. 'cause there's these consequences. We get into the same thing with Buddha or. Christ or these faiths these entities and they, but yeah, in, in that case, these ideas then have power to them and the amount of people that put energy into the idea.

[01:00:50] Corbin: Thor is another great example because he's still hanging around here, being super relevant with Marvel, I found myself unknowingly, but voluntarily entered a right eye, Egyptian mystery school ended up losing my right eye in the process as a rite of passage. There's this bit, even with Odin, where before Odin, I was just gonna say 

[01:01:08] Sher: this sounds, we go into Odin and you've got the serpent yurman gander.

[01:01:12] Sher: They're all there. It's all interrelated. 

[01:01:15] Corbin: Had to lose a vision in one eye and hang himself upside down in order to see the world for all that it truly was and everything beyond. And in many ways I have embodied the one-eyed hanging man and or full archetype through a lot of my late twenties, early thirties.

[01:01:32] Corbin: I, I've become the Hierophant. This podcast is actually a really refreshing, I don't talk about this stuff because it doesn't matter. In the grand scheme of my message is like the color matrix and helping people find and learn how to find value and wisdom and perspectives that they reject.

[01:01:48] Corbin: For me to be in a position where I could sit here in the seat, I had to do all of this other stuff. But if I waste that precious time of talking to people and I'm telling them, oh, hey, I made this cool deal and then lost this little magical duel, and most people don't care. Yeah. Oh, okay. Psycho. What you made some deals with Egyptian gods and lost an eye.

[01:02:07] Corbin: Like what a what? Whoa. Okay. Do you need help? Are you taking your medicine? That's what this podcast is for, is that we can go a little deeper. Deeper. And to what degree, and here, oh, I love how you just said that. To go a little deeper, this is gonna bring me back full circle. To what degree does it matter?

[01:02:22] Corbin: So everything that's going on right now with Giza, what's buried underneath the pyramids, how much is that going to change the quality of my relationships, how I am as a father, how I am as a husband, how good I am at doing my job and providing. The reality is that in many ways, these things become distractions.

[01:02:39] Corbin: What's buried under you, and that's where I go, oh my God, as much as I would love at this point in my life at 36 being the conspiracy man that I am to go, Ooh, I've got the answer, and it all points to a gartha or the reptilian race and all these, we've been tricked and deceived, and here I've got the answer for you.

[01:02:59] Corbin: It's like bs. What's buried underneath my surface is that I have a tendency to engage in unnecessary arguments needing to be right, and as a result of that, my relationships suffer, and then I do, because I'm lonely and miserable deal with that because it's. Way more impacting. That's far deeper for me at this point than hypothesizing about the moon or Giza.

[01:03:28] Corbin: Now these things do still keep me up at night and keep me awake, ruminating. I appreciate these outlets and containers like this where I get to discuss this, but there is also this part of me that I go, man, as fun as this kind of mental masturbation is, and I wouldn't necessarily qui say the same thing with the spiritual aspects because those have really been deeply healing and nourishing.

[01:03:49] Corbin: But when it goes into what is this little truth, I find myself like a pig looking for truffles in the dirt. And that's not how I necessarily wanna actually live my life. And so I'm less concerned about truth these days and I'm more concerned about embodying love. 

[01:04:06] Laz: So does this go back to the original Ayahuasca trip?

[01:04:10] Laz: Basically squeegeeing your third eye clean. 

[01:04:13] Corbin: Man, I wish I could say that squeegee, that filth gets reapplied so fast, right? Based on what are our limiting, our own limiting beliefs, what are our traumas? And there's so many different compartmentalizations of the mind, as people want to break down, let's say even union psychology, it's always what's your shadow self?

[01:04:31] Corbin: What's your ego? What's your id? And they wanna compartmentalize all these selves of the parts of the mind. What I've actually found is that all of these different fractured selves, I'm not saying that they don't exist. It's like the conscious and subconscious are clear, but the more that I go into exploring them, the answer at the end of all of these rabbit holes is that it's one.

[01:04:48] Corbin: Is that it's bigger, is that it's a part of something else. It's even why, like this color wheel behind me. Each of these six colors are so unique and defined, not only in their centered expressions, but they're extreme angry and raged ones that they're still, they're all so different, still all one. And it gets into the concept of this of our planet and it's placed within the solar system.

[01:05:09] Corbin: Each one of these planets that are in our solar system with this, that in effect man, they have their own spiritual and literal em embodiments. It's all still one solar system. It's one sort of simulation that is testing us constantly to see how we'll respond. And do we choose to proceed towards love or do we refuse it?

[01:05:32] Corbin: And I think that so much of what it means to be human is to refuse it. Yeah, that's the problem. And I really got that on my first rather it wasn't my first, it was my second. The first experience I had in Peru, it was like a clearing out. It was euphoric. We sang some really fun songs.

[01:05:52] Corbin: Second night was like. Blasting off into literally the spirit world. And in that, the nature of reality is as much defined as, by the, this is what you were talking about earlier, by the seeming duality of it. Even though there has to only be light. 'cause darkness is the absence of light, the darkness is still real just because there's love and, fear is the absence of love.

[01:06:16] Corbin: Doesn't mean that fear isn't necessarily real, but it just means that in the kingdom, most high fear does not exist. Anything that I've done in the spiritual level has gotten me to a place where I, I. Understand that core conclusion, that there is oneness, that only love is real, and that everything else is a projection of myself that I'm playing a really fun game of hide and seek with.

[01:06:38] Corbin: So even in that dreadful scenario in which I am essentially livestock and my loose is being harvested in order to feed insatiable reptilian overlords, that might as well be like the matrix. Yeah. Gosh, I wanna get into the predictive programming or the literal hidden and plain sight nature of our reality.

[01:06:55] Corbin: The last Transformers movie is literally they've given over cybertron to a different civilization, planet. Its alien, and they have to harvest the energy of the transformers in order to deliver it to their alien overlords. It could not be clearer in front of your face the entire time that you are on this planet playing this charade game.

[01:07:14] Corbin: It's right there, what is actually happening to you. But at the same time, it's yeah. Good. Hey, 

[01:07:19] Sher: I'll just keep taking the blue pill instead of I, that's what I say. Yeah. 

[01:07:22] Corbin: All these Christians are absolutely ridiculous for denying the existence of dinosaurs. By the way, there the reptilian race water.

[01:07:30] Corbin: You retarded. 

[01:07:32] Laz: It's just Hollywood. Hollywood's going. We know the truth. Here it is, and we're going. Yay. Robots. 

[01:07:37] Sher: Will you please be a repeat guest and a friend of the show because Yeah, we are. If I don't wrong things, there's so much to talk about. We are gonna be on for the next 48 hours. And and I am not Joe Rogan, so this is Rogan wishes. 

[01:07:50] Laz: This is part one. 

[01:07:51] Sher: Okay. 

[01:07:52] Corbin: Yeah. The beauty of this is that I didn't even say the word Saturn once until right now. And so I'm just, there's so much to, to explore and I just really ultimately appreciate a container to even express some of these things that go off in the, so the 

[01:08:05] Sher: answer is yes, you will keep coming back and be a repeat friend of the show and guests so we can discuss all of the things.

[01:08:12] Sher: Correct. 

[01:08:13] Corbin: This may be have been like a really great form of cheap or essentially free therapy that I've found. I really appreciate it. 

[01:08:19] Sher: Honestly, it's what I envisioned the show to be. It's like a bunch of friends just sitting around the table. We're having some cocktails and we're discussing these sorts of things, but I find I get so much insight and I find so much value in what I.

[01:08:37] Sher: The guest ring to the table, things you wouldn't normally think of, but when you start piecing things together, you're like, that makes total sense. And it does, it expands everything. For me it's therapy because I stay awake. Las you've known me since I was 15. I literally think about this kind of shit all the time and go what about this?

[01:09:00] Sher: What about this, what about, so for me, this is some therapeutic stuff going on too. But I think a lot of times we have so many constructs and so many boxes where we have to fit in. A certain way. Can't talk about this. You can't talk about the, I want a safe space where we can talk about this kind of a thing.

[01:09:20] Sher: We may not all necessarily agree. A lot of people think, when I say in the beginning, it's a place where we discuss the important topics. Da. It is important. It's finding that deeper meaning. It's finding a different purpose, a different way of looking things out.

[01:09:36] Sher: We're not coloring within the lines anymore. You get the freedom to color outside those lines and then maybe explore different pieces of yourself where you've had questions, things that have been holding you back, and maybe just maybe in the course of our silly little show here. Yeah. Maybe in the process of this, in just a friendly, fun conversation, we find something that makes us go.

[01:10:06] Sher: Oh, hey wait, and we find an answer and then we get to move forward and it's better. It's a great time. We're talking friends, but we're also making progress. And that's the beauty of this. So please come on back anytime for this, but I gotta ask, so you've had your spiritual space, snakes, we talked about story musgrave and his space snake.

[01:10:28] Sher: Are there real space snakes in your opinion, not just spiritual? Are they real? Is there like, are we gonna come across real space snakes? 

[01:10:40] Corbin: I will quote one of the smartest men that I know his name is Rick. He goes, of course there's space snakes. Marty, there's everything in space. Marty. I love it. I got three months here before my next book comes out.

[01:10:52] Corbin: Personality Color Matrix. Thank you. It's a transformative tool to unlock joy, upgrade your awareness and reconnect, and I would just love it would be tickled pink to come on here. Where can we find your book? We're gonna make this happen. 

[01:11:02] Corbin: Where 

[01:11:02] Corbin: can we find your book? In fact, where can 

[01:11:04] Sher: we find all the things?

[01:11:06] Sher: Because you've got your new album that just came out, right? You've got the new book coming. You have a book out. Give the shameless plugs. 

[01:11:13] Corbin: So if you're interested in what I do in terms of my career, which can ultimately help you improve communication, reduce conflict, and repair fractured relationships, then I'd invite you to go to the color matrix.com.

[01:11:26] Corbin: And this is a really fun way to gain insight about how you see the world and how other people see the world so that you can find more peace and harmony. We. Wrote a book. Now, this is a technology that I've worked with my mother in creating. That book comes out July 25th. It's written half from a millennial perspective and half from a boomer perspective about how to heal the epidemics of enmity and entitlement that are tearing apart Western civilization.

[01:11:48] Corbin: Talked about that polarization. If you wanna escape from all of the talk about conspiracy theories and Bigfoot and such a, and really embed yourself in the political diatribe, then you can enjoy that book. But in addition, you can find all of my music on all major platforms under FlooWood. That's F-L-O-O-W-O-O-D.

[01:12:09] Corbin: Yeah, I'd really encourage, if you're a fan of monsters, then I would really encourage you to check out the album. Mad Love, really wonderful Lincoln Park meets the weekend. But if you're in that self alchemy and personal development, a little bit into the Space Snakes conversation that I'd encourage you to check out set free.

[01:12:27] Corbin: And both of these, my artistic heart and soul out for you to enjoy. 

[01:12:31] Sher: I'm gonna put all of your links that you just discussed in the show notes. For those of you that don't catch it and don't see the show notes, shoot me an email. You can do that at share@cocktailsandconspiracies.com. You got the link up there.

[01:12:48] Sher: If you shoot me a message, I will send you personally all of the links there too. But you can find them in the show notes. You can find them here. I'll have them on social media. You can find it on Facebook, on Instagram. This has been an absolute delight. I knew this was going to be fun. I didn't understand just how much I was gonna love this.

[01:13:09] Sher: I don't know. Last, do you have any final questions for Corbin before we get rolling? 

[01:13:13] Laz: I'm just excited to get back to having you back on talking, going deep and literally use this as a platform. This is, I. You're the guest, so you tell us what you wanna talk about. It. It's been mind blowing.

[01:13:27] Laz: I had to go back and just do a quick research on, we talked about very briefly, briefly the pope hat with the fish. 

[01:13:35] Sher: Yeah. I'm dying to know more about this. 

[01:13:36] Laz: So really that goes back to I would say is it Dagon Dogon, 

[01:13:42] Sher: the Dogon tribe or Dogon, 

[01:13:44] Laz: the fi the fish God of the Philistines and the Babylonians wore the fish hat and there's a statue of this creature.

[01:13:51] Laz: And it's just there's the statue, he's got the hat. It's that's the Pope hat. Could it 

[01:13:56] Sher: be y in the middle of Lent, we're dealing with fish on Fridays. 

[01:14:00] Laz: There you go. Fish on Fridays, the ancient pagan fish. God. 

[01:14:03] Corbin: Yeah, I think you have a goddess. There's something there with Pisces and its correlation with Christ.

[01:14:08] Corbin: And in a lot of this, and even where we're entering now with Aqua Aquarium, I think that the same way that fish have worked as a symbol in the past is how the water bearer will continue to work in like our stories and mythologies moving forward. What I really look forward to is that next time I get to tell you guys not only how I lost the eye, but how I got it back when I went to Egypt.

[01:14:29] Laz: Yes, 

[01:14:30] Sher: I'm dying here. Cliffhanger. Okay. Alright, so there's our cliffhanger right there. And in the meantime we're gonna take it out and we're gonna go with our old phrase where we ask you, don't stop thinking, but keep on drinking and we will see you on the next episode of Cocktails and Conspiracies.