What up, y'all?

This is your main man, Memphis Bleak right here.

Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my gods over at Drink Champs Big with these Yeah, Memphis, I'm back, Addy niggas.

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Yeah, y'all you already know what it is.

Back with another exclusive rock Solid.

You know what it is the podcast.

Your boy im greasy And I always tell you if you see a person sitting on this platform is one of two things, and this person right here is actually three.

He was part of the rock, he helped build a rock.

He's definitely a solid nigga, and he my family.

So that's you know, that's what makes it a trifecta.

Right there, bro, Let's welcome my god, big Face Gary legendary Harlem heavy hitter to the motherfucking table Plea.

I'm from Nevers.

I'm from the Upper Way Side.

My second home is Hall of My crew with you from Hall of God fucking River down side, Yo.

This city is is crazy.

I'm here with Bleak Man.

Brother.

I've seen Bleak, I haven't seen Bleak is the labor clothes man.

Yo, that's what I'm saying.

Man, high life been since like we're gonna go back into the past, but I want to catch up with you.

Well, Bleak, I've been blessed man.

She got crazy when the label closed.

I was at daughter.

Man, you had a kid before me.

My daughter was going to be born.

My daughter's nineteen college God, blessed man, your son's twenty one.

You have a daughter growing up.

I'm fighting now.

Things are finally starting to get better.

That's what's up.

And I'm really really happy because I always liked you, and I thought you always liked me, hated me.

Because you were young.

Your crew was so Brooklyn you know your Jesus rough Man.

Yeah, but we wasn't you know what I think did that when the when the separation, it felt like it started to become Harlem against Brooklyn.

So that's why on our side we started to become more defensive.

But me and you always been like always my nigga, Like every time I used to take certain things, me and Dame and get into our arguments and all of that, you was the one that'll come to the end at the end of the convo and bleak.

But bleak.

It ain't gotta be like that bleak like y'all tripping.

We family bleak, nah man, we gotta put this ship together like and I always respected that from you, So I'm glad you said that.

I felt No, definitely, bro, you fought for it and like what was it like A and nor and with us because you dealt with all of us.

Man, we was fucking headaches.

I didn't really do a lot of your music because you had the big homy hoop hope your backup THO was the his A and R hope that would bleak.

But I was bleaks, bleak, nice baking.

Come on, come on, just get it, let's get off.

I remember, yo, listen, niggas don't even know like the song we did with cam the just Fire.

Yes, remember I wrote a first verse to that joint.

And you the one who came to me and was like, Yo, Dame said that ship is trash.

Remember that sh bro yo the question but he did make that broyes Yo.

His nigga was like, Yo, Dame said that ship is trash.

I was like, face man, fucked out it.

Tell Dame, come tell me that.

And Mamber Damn came to the studio.

The dame was like, no, bleak, that ship is trash man.

I think you could write a better verse than that, man, And I'm like, what, I went crazy on this ship and I'm like, yo, I ain't gonna front y'all.

Niggas had me so mad that night that I went back and rewrote the verse.

And I thank y'all for that because we would have never got the verse we got if y'all never said that.

To F I was like, oh, mom, I have to be the sucker.

Yo, looking at.

Me, like, give me a g you need to go tell a bleak word.

Yo, bron bleak seventeen.

Yo got money y'all that was on of this his cruise with him, Yo, I gotta do it.

Y'all was hot.

My nigga like what.

I was like, no way, niggas said this ain't it?

But then I rewrote it.

I was like, Yo, in my mind, I was saying, I'm gonna write the most disrespectful ship you could say to a nigga in the street, and it's no way nigga gonna tell me they oh fuck with that.

And that's him that you appreciate that I knew you was mad at me, but you name lame me Luca Rose from Godfather because out of town, all all games gonna do.

I said, Yo, man, it's gonna kill me, but please gonna be mad, but I'm gonna tell the youth.

And I used to be like that with his friend, this big homie.

That's right, man, Like your relationship with you know, what was your really individually, We're gonna break it down.

What was your relationship with Biggs?

Man?

Biggs rest in peace?

No, Biggs' brother you Hell yeah, man.

We went to Japan barb Hell yeah, man, blessed Bob, that's my brig.

Was like he was younger than me, the biggest, this biggest young.

So I could say now because this it's not that Biggs was young with a lot of money.

Hell yeah, hell yeah.

This was like eighteen nineteen, just had bread bread.

So Rock started.

We first of all Bleak, before Rock even existed Bleak.

We all we did was snap and drink.

That's it, Snap and drink, that's it.

And they was kept talking about that's when Jay was working.

It was like Jay got a young and at Bleak bringing it along and that's your first one sign besides you know the balls they dumb that don't count.

So then I said, Yo, Biggs didn't want to be down Big give a fuck about it.

No, he didn't give a fuck about block and nothing.

All Biggs kid about was bricks and drinking.

That's that's why I got the name.

How fun.

Yeah, so then we're chilling, chilling, and Bis, this is my man.

We just bleak.

I sweart always to do his drink ship yo.

Yeah.

I was the most snapping crew.

Yeah yeah, you come around the crew too serious for me with no no no yo.

Bro.

That was because Bigs and Dang y'all used to chew niggas up for everything.

I remember.

I came around with the white Army fatigue suit m HM and nigga bigs.

First Big said to me and was like, yo, fucking you the nurse for the army.

Like, like you the nurse for the army, and I got the white fatigue you know.

I get in the car with j J like Nigga, ain't im sending the white were you fighting in the snow?

They cut me up.

J threw my hat out the window.

On of y'all was the worst, Like even if you you had the pop tags, dame.

Whole thing was if you ain't popping tags, you're bum ass, nigga, you ain't fly today.

And y'all invented the poors game.

Like one hundred percent that started from y'all crew.

One hundred percent was the very quiet you don't know you.

He don't fuck with you.

That's right, we don't fuck with you.

Don't ask him nothing, don't say nothing.

He was very comfortable me.

I was my friend.

He's cool with Bleak, So.

My I love Biggs man, you know, but you know Big, I gotta be honestly, Biggs grew up and he got to this day.

Now, me and Biggs has some controversy.

No way, I ain't know that.

Come, I gotta keep her.

No, no, no, no, I think mean Biggs are still cool.

I think we need a conversation.

I'm going to make my business to make sure I call Biggs today or tomorrow.

That's a fact.

Man.

You got you like you childhood friends, and I always felt like to me.

My my rule with my friends are if we never had physical altercation.

We never you never slapped my kid, killed my dog, tried to fuck my wife.

All we have was a verbal dispute.

Man.

We cand that can be fixed, bro.

That's what I'll be telling some of these rappers, nigga.

All we had was an argument over beats, Like are you argue for beats?

Like when was arguing for beating?

Think about it.

When you dissing these niggas that you never even met, you never had a physical altercation with, That's basically what you're doing.

It's just an argument overbeats.

He say this, You say this, he say that.

You You know what I'm saying.

So that's what I mean.

Like that type of ship can always be repaired.

When when it becomes violent and something happened to someone, then it's a little bit more fix that.

But so that relationship with Biggs can definitely And.

He's Nory's manager, I think.

Help.

Yeah, why I said, it's not that because I wouldn't be here.

Yo, bringing up Norri.

That's my fucking bro, yo, Norri man Nori set me up with you.

Oh that's oh yeah, Yo.

I'm in the crib chilling swatching football regular day phone ring.

You know.

This is when we was working on setting up the podcast.

So I'm thinking and he calling me, Yo, the contract came in some type of good news.

I answered the phone and nigga say, Yo, I got these niggas on the phone.

I need you to hold me down.

Click.

All you hear is Dame a big face going in yo.

Yo.

We left Yo, Yo, No, no, no, nobody wasn't saying nothing crazy.

But it's just like I wasn't ready.

I was caught off God and I'm like, Yo, damn, you set me up.

You don't even give me time to get rady, like prepare me.

Yo, I got these niggas on the phone.

They come in at my head.

It was nothing, but I was glad we had that phone call because you made my day.

Bleak.

You don't understand how Dame he was talking all crazy ship that I know he don't mean.

Because YO, don't need to hear that.

Y'all gonna head on.

I want to go around figure the He was likeah blah blah.

Then I got them on the phone.

Yo, I ain't gonna lie.

Bleak.

That's one of the biggest arguments that I never see three motherfuckers argue for three album Yo.

Y'all, it was a three hour argument.

I know you'll be Oh no, you were saying he was his ship.

He went back, he went back, he went back, that phone call was it was an episode that ship would wait.

I swear to.

God, Yo, I've never seen an argument like that.

You went at it man other ship.

Like I said, we made it true.

That's what he got mad at you.

I don't know we talked about he said recently he threw a cheap shot out of him.

Didn't because we're gonna talk about this, but it's because of the ship.

I probably said on Breakfast Club about beans, but it's kind of impossible to talk about beans without mentioning Dang, even though I didn't want to mention him.

That I had to, but I didn't mean to.

But that wasn't about none of that.

Dang didn't keep our truth, neither my g Damn because I don't be Hell knows, I don't be Dame.

I've seen the interview Dame sitting with the cowboy mass on the hat on the little fly Cowboys ship on the suade on the shoulders and that nigga like this, Yeah, bleak, take ten steps to draw a nigga or he was giving you hell too.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

The Dame things your big home, not don't j level.

They're a big homie like all of y'all.

Listen, y'all, y'all was a kid.

What y'all did you?

That's what you're supposed to do.

That's right, y'all.

Added Yo, listen, that phone call was very needed, very necessary and needed, man, because I haven't spoken to you in years.

You know what I mean.

I haven't spoken to Dame in years, let alone all of us on the phone together hashing out differences, what people felt, what they thought, and you know, clarifying a lot of ship.

So I felt like a lot of things was answered on that call and that led us to be here.

No, yeah, he picked me up.

Was throw a shot.

That was crazy.

But how you big me up?

And that was shot?

Ain't the brightest light in the god Damn.

I couldn't even be a lightning, Bob, he said.

Yo, man, I can't front man.

I gotta really sat and talk as much I would believe about ship, this, this, this and that.

And I took a right in your rhymes.

Remember that.

Yes, I took that's right.

And I would people.

I will say this Jay helped you with certain thing was so fucking what.

Everybody got help.

He's the best rapp up all time.

Everybody got helped.

Like if Jay had a hook, Jay had not there.

If j saw a vision, he's gonna give it.

Used to get helped from not writing Jay rom but a vision.

How you gonna write this rhyme?

What you think, young Chris?

What you think?

What you think?

Beans?

That's right.

He went at you that.

He used to call me your bleak.

I got this verse.

Check it out, big Jayson.

What you think faith?

I said you could do better?

Exactly.

Everybody to the points got help.

It was a thin we were in baseline.

To me, baseline was a compound.

It was the carter bro We were really in there chopping that work and distributing them bricks on the block like like so we was flowing.

So if somebody had a hook, give me that hook.

If you had four balls, give me those balls.

If I got four balls for you, take those like.

We were the process up, trying to keep going, keep the work moving.

It wasn't about Yo, I write for this nigga.

He write for me.

I helped this one.

He helped him he do.

It was never that So when I sing beans and Dang get on there and be like, yeah, Jay rode bleak.

So it's like Dang, j ro myth bleaker is j Rowe round here?

J Rowe?

What you think of that?

J Rod?

Do that your bitch?

J Rope?

Like, dang, you sat there made me rewrite a verse that's one of my hardest verses.

Started to calculation, like yeah, and you wrote the verse.

So nigga, Yeah, so I knew dame like it became a point and what made me back to our point about the conversation and the truth.

What made me stick to the truth, to our truth and what we said that we wasn't gonna take shots at each other because I look at this podcasting world and I look at this media world now that the artist is into.

Is that you say something, they say something, you say something.

It's the never fucking ending story, bro And I ain't with that.

Like, I ain't with that.

I ain't on I don't want a platform dragging down nobody, No, no, none of my niggas, especially nobody that I considered a broke.

I'm not gonna be on here throwing out your your your dirty laundry, my nigga, that's whole shit to me, you know what I mean, the same principles niggas raised me on.

I'm watching them not stand on and that ship is this like a motherfucker bro.

Like like I get mad sometimes, like Jay don't talk now, but I do get mad because I know he got some good ship to say.

But Jay is very quiet, and that's how he works.

He's calculating.

He's cauld he's calculating.

Boy, he's not gonna You're never gonna know where he feels.

You.

Ain't let you by the album, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

He speaks all his ship through the music.

Bro.

That's that's that repeated me.

That's my opinion.

That And for you to say that you made my day, I don't drink no more and I'm not drinking.

But for you to say Jason, that guy his family, that makes my man hated him, I don't know.

I just wow, what did you so long?

But what did you ever do?

I stopped rapping like the best em of all time because of the real best.

I like Nobs.

I died for not and I told J Nobles is better than him.

You like j got better and Jads.

I told J you can't fuck me if you look at this man he destroyeds don't start though.

No, I don't know.

I don't I'm saying it.

That's all I j J.

I love us now.

This is the best of all five before.

But Yo, I'm sorry he did it to us.

Yo, we have in cessions.

When you said Jacus comes in this this tukstad.

Ship ship, what can I do?

What can I do?

Yo?

It was crazy?

Can I live where I'm from?

But they like your relationship with Dang like you and Dane grew up together.

Rag.

It's like eighteen nineteen damn.

Real good friends through real mcin O.

Yes, yes, And that's why I couldn't believe this back and forth for them.

Dame has I've never really seen Dame fucked up the sad.

It's not specially Jas.

But I took him, Dame hops and get work on the regular, that's what.

But this this narrative that Dame is broke, Meggas, don't please help me with that.

Stand the difference between broke broke and rich broke.

I know has more money than by Yo, chill Man's find it.

But but I'm glad.

I'm gonna say to y'all yo too, Dame has no problems, That's right, He's just smart.

You see this view, yo, you've seen this view he posted off.

I thought them every day, man, they only do in front of me.

He was mad at you.

How telling me about money?

Man, think about it's crazy?

I got man, just think it's crazy.

Yo.

Day Yo.

I remember when they first got the Crimson Palisades.

Man, Oh yeah, that's what about?

Oh tell Dave balling Alley type of show.

You could tell him that was winding the Crims was I'm still inspired by those cribs?

Like what the Jay house yet that time?

No Ja didn't buy this apartment?

Yeah yeah, j what house yet?

Know in that apartment?

Yo?

You know how I'm supposed to get that crib?

J crib?

Yeah?

Why you ain't get it?

Jay Brown?

Man?

What yo?

Yo?

Listen Jay like this your bleak eye.

Yo.

You know I got the crib.

You know I'm about to move out.

I don't want the crib.

I'm gonna give it to you.

Just pay the bill, yeah whatever.

The Remember it was paid off.

All that they pay was the insurance, I mean the taxi.

It was paid off.

So he was just gonna give it to me.

And then I'm like, all right, cool, just let me know when you know, pack my shit up, get the keys, go like a week later, I got a calling, like nigga was like, Yo, no, I love you right, little bro.

It's like, yeah, why, what's up?

What happened?

Nigga's like, I don't love you more than four million dollars though.

My nigga was like, Jay Brown made a deal.

You can't you can't compete with it was just given to you.

I made four.

I was like, oh nah, I can't say nothing.

So every time I see j Brown to this day, I tell him, Yo, dog, you got my crib?

He still got it?

Yeah, he don't live there whole time, probably renting it out, man, probably getting fucking five thousand dollars a week.

All that ship because that ship worth.

Run was run back there, run that crib.

Stupid stupid stupid movie theaters today.

Dang crib was stupid.

I could say that that's how Dang was paying fifteen hundred dollars a month mortgage.

Yeah, and as it was stupid, stupid, stupid fifteen hundreds, I remember that six This is fishing a month.

Man.

She ain't nothing, man says when he moved to the black door, and I got mad at so yeah, Yo, Dame had mad cribs.

The black dude, that's what I mean, Blea.

I mean Bleak is talking black doors.

There is a big one bedroom.

Yo.

No, I say, Dame, lord of these world up in saying the black door than crib in London, London.

So me and Bleak us crazy to listen to y'all say, Dames broke out of your mind, out of your mind world for years.

So the day when you're talking, I was so happy you made my day.

We took chief.

I said, Yo, come on da my man man like I got him.

You always say, Dames the big homie, you always deals.

You always nothing nothing bad about Dang.

Ever, my thing with Dang always been.

What I thought.

My opinion is, I just thought Dang got drunk with power.

I always felt like that, like you know what I mean, like he got drunk with power.

And it just because this gang bro, this ship, what Goso comes down.

Not only that this ship is like this ship like heroin bro.

The same way you see a heroineatic chase that high.

I feel like these entrepreneurs, entertainers, rappers, CEOs, bosses that once had that high, they chase that just like a heroin heroineautic.

To me, I feel like it's the same thing.

They just not strunk out.

They just you know, got a better parents, but almost to look like the same feeling, like the same thirst.

You know, it's funny you said that because like I look at Dames like Jason, I look at Jay's like long, I don't give a fuck about Rocker j.

Damons, My man, it's Damon asshole.

I will say, yes, we.

All are Damn.

I got we York man, we all are.

I got ways when the when the doctor says, a boy, it's gonna be an asshole.

I got some asshole ways too.

But it's just it's good that, you know, it's just good to know that, you know that Dame is okay.

Yeah, of course, man, But my thing is right with that.

I always felt like the rock We was the strongest crew.

We we we was bro that ship.

I feel like, you know, the magic trick when the glasses on the table and he pulled the tablecloth off and the glasses are still just standing there like nothing happened.

That's how I feel like what happened with us with Rockefeller, Like it felt like the tablecloth just was young from under our feet and there was nothing none of us can do.

But I saw it coming, and I used to try to I used to try to warn these niggas.

No, there was no way to come.

There was no way to prepare.

I was broken, Ship, I was having a kid.

I was fuck.

It was no way to prepare, Bro.

I didn't see it coming.

I thought he was never gonna end.

That's what I'm saying.

It was no way we were spending money like you was spending.

Everybody spending money, yo, bleak dang big everybody.

Beans had an alligator.

Yeah you lie.

Everyone knows that story.

Bean was going to jail, and I can't just have to make sure we've seen him before last.

I'm playing with it.

I'm drunking Ship, but I'm like at my tenth forty forty Joey, you used to be smash.

I used to be.

I still still was a good guy.

That's right, yo, nigga blieve yo, Gee, I ain't feed him in like a month.

I ain't feeling w I said, Fuck, that ain't nothing to me, man, I g nigga being like this.

That nigga bit the ship out of.

Me, dude, lying me man that yes, yeah, Beans was wildent.

This was a while.

I tell Beans if Beans Bleak Bleak almost went platinum.

You were like this close.

I remember eight fifty eight sixty all gold.

All gold, all gold, right close, that close, right there.

Like' his favorite song you ever did?

I think was too was coming age.

I don't think I'll do that, Belie, because it was really that's when you don't even have no money think about.

That's why I said that ship like in my life, the Jersey in one car.

You think that's all you're thinking about, getting out of Jersey, getting out of yeah Jersey and what car?

Yeah, you was talking that ship.

Focus.

You were focused.

So I'm like, I was bugging.

I was like, Yo, what the fuck are we gonna do?

Nigcause I was mad at Dane, I was mad at everybody.

Man, I was mad at you.

Nolways say that ship.

He always say that man, big Face like man.

I think during the breakup, I think Big Face Palls took it the hardest side of everybody.

Bro.

I ain't got I ain't had ship.

I came back, yeah, man, I got still got ways to go, but I'm back.

Everybody had to reinvent.

When you said something I can't tell on the phone that you told you went through.

Verse Jay, like I told him, I hope I never see the money.

I hope he lived forever.

Bro, I don't want my now and the will.

Yeah, I love, I appreciate it, hope people taking as Jay is gonna make sure you are right now.

Yeah, but I don't need I don't want him to.

I'm a man, Bro.

If I God forbid, if something physically happened to me to where I'm unable to provide for my family, then yes, I'm gonna break that glass in casey murgence.

The long as these hands fingers toes and work, Bro, I ain't gonna never cry to no man and tell like plead and I'm going out here and get it.

Then I got kids.

What I'm gonna tell my son when you fucked up?

Act somebody like it's that that don't even make sense.

This podcast is good man for me and bleep because I didn't even know that.

I'm thinking j Bro.

I was born in a recession.

I always gotta remind niggas that I was born broke, so getting money seventy eight, getting money, getting money always been a priority, and it's never been It's you know what it is like a lot of people look at getting money like it's a hard task.

Getting money is not hard.

You know what's hard?

Keeping money I spend.

But you know what I spend all businesses, Bro, You dose pieces here, pieces there, pieces there.

So when it's time to go by roly, go upgrade the chain.

This company bought that.

You know what I'm saying.

Like I was telling you about the business account shit, Bro, I got about ten different business accounts under ten different businesses, like the Weed company.

Different accounts.

I got restaurants accounts, Weed company accounts, fucking podcast accounts, regular business accounts for my personal new business like real estate business accounts, like Bro, the portfolio is diversified.

I just fucking bought a barber shop when I came here to New York, right in Jersey.

So you know what I mean, say cheese barbershop real soon, man, Like, that's what I spend on now.

Because I don't want my son and I don't want my daughter to ever feel like they gotta do things that they never they got to bend the rules to make it because I've been them enough for you just.

Want to get out of college and get a job and whatever you like to do do like my.

Son, I don't even I don't even care if they go to college.

Bro, like high school to me cool.

I want my kids to be business owners, not employees.

You know what I mean?

Like school school don't raise business owners.

They teach you how to be an employee.

Yeah, and that's just real.

It's not bad.

Some people ain't made to be a boss.

I'm saying this ship.

No one knows this.

That's why I need to come to Jayson.

Jay's gonna be always be okay, okay, he said.

But yeah, but back through what you said, like I believe my opinion.

So I'm still here.

Swe niggas fuck with me because they know, like, don't no nigga want no nigga around you.

Gotta keep taking yo, bro, fucked out.

I need ten dollars.

My nigga got twenty today.

I need a honey right now.

How long you gonna have them niggas around you?

That's not Yeah, you're right, I want producers around me now.

Niggas who just fucking asking.

I ain't think it was broken anyway, but I just you hearing you talk about what you're what you've done.

You got business and you taught me something, so you're doing Okay.

Hell yeah, bro, I got my daughter.

My daughter want to go on trips.

Baby, she just came from Korea, Japan.

You got your first man, I was.

I was hyped.

Got my ship delivered in front of Rockefeller.

Got there, they pulled my shirt off the truck.

First.

I thought I was that.

I thought I was that.

I can say, I see bleak come up with all that.

I lost it all too.

I came up.

I lost it all and I got a basket.

Why to me, man, my wife was a gift from God.

Man because she's.

Seen her on the internem Yeah, she's opposite of you.

Yes, she's gift from God.

From Brooklyn.

She's very clean.

Yeah.

Really, she's the one who instilled I said in the song on my album that I was living, but she told me how to live.

Wow, you know what I'm saying.

Like and and sometimes I think Rockefeller, we we made so much money, and we was running shit so long that the hustler and me Lie dorn It.

I put him to sleep because shit was coming so easy.

Pause you know what I mean.

Just go to Baseline the check, coup to Rock, go to Rockefeller the check come leave both of those places.

Do a show to check there.

It was checked everywhere we went right.

I was walking with Jay.

I'm a big the guy.

I lost a lot of weight, but your big face.

No, let no one take this hat.

I think I'm winning.

That's my man's tonight.

Niggas, what that's about.

I took that.

I'm telling you, it was just money flowing around, bro.

So when Rockefeller stopped for me, I felt like I had to wake the hustler and me up again.

It was no more looking out for niggas, cause you know all those walkthroughs.

Yeah, I gotta do it for you, bro.

Give me five hundred, give me two thousand, I pull up.

It's nothing, Nah, I ain't leaving my crib.

I don't know it just then on.

Now, that's why you didn't see me doing shows so much like that, bro, Because niggas are you running around doing shows for five thousand.

Let me tell you something.

I'm from the streets.

I'm from the same place you front.

You hit a nigga in the head, that five thousand can't get you a lawyer or bail you out.

So so it's like you're doing it for free.

So you come out for real money, that's it.

Or I'm cool, I stay home.

Your business, I'm good.

I'm good, all right.

I respect that.

That's just me.

Man.

So after Rockefeller, what was your motivation to get back up there?

You're gonna be mad.

My daughter was born.

I was popped.

So if you're gonna laugh Rockefeller, you get unappointment six months or ninety seven a week.

Damn.

I was struggling.

I didn't see nothing nobody.

I stayed home.

I wasn't fresh.

I stayed home.

Fortunately big my mom, my mom still live, Okay.

Yeah, I just believe I can't re live you.

I just I was sad.

My baby mother, we talked about it on dispecord.

I love her.

She raised my daughter, but she was She threw cheap shots at me.

Yeah, I got those, name them.

I had you just mad?

Your career going down here?

Yeah?

How you smoke?

I was drinking yeah, man, So it was bad and bleak.

And then I believe I went and got a van and I just became a messenger, started waking my way back up.

And if you don't know, I didn't do nothing in music for fifteen years.

Fuck everybody.

I feel you, everybody.

I didn't say fuck.

I didn't say you didn't.

Do that, No, no, but I feel you.

I was.

I was on the same the same way every out.

I knew, take care of my daughter, to find a way the way bleak, so it's bad bleak.

Then in twenty I was working with him, my man right here.

Big became good friends at a messaging company, and he never knew nothing how a yellow van blee.

I used to get my work and go work, and yo, yo, I'm called, what the fuck your big face?

Man?

How fuck you?

I said, what I'm gary, I'm trying to survive, right, and he and life that goes on?

Right?

I worked and blink, I said.

One day the pandemic came.

And blink.

I said to myself, all right, I'm not mad at nobody, no more.

I was mad at everybody.

I'd no reason you mad at Jay, No reason you're mad at Big.

I was just mad because I wasn't smart enough to know things in.

And I felt that I was.

I felt like I was old enough to realize things now, you know.

And I looked at you, like last week.

I can't believe he forty seven.

Yeah, I can't believe that he was so young to me.

Nigga's a groom grown as you.

No no boys be seeing me now that niggad be like, Yo, man, you really I really raised you?

Man, Yeah, I took you from the hood.

He was fourteen years old, nigga, yeah forty seven, Like, yeah, you're really even Emery Biggs.

When he was sixteen, world up, and I knew all I knew.

Bigs was a young boy, rich nigga.

How it feels.

I didn't care when a nigga way Biggs had way more money.

Than niggas pasts niggas acts Bigs.

Yo, how I felt when you made your first million?

He said?

From music or from the street.

That's hitch.

It's like which which answer you want first?

And he and Bigs is a cheap motherfucker.

That day he was seven dollars and go ge socks.

He stopped at the bank and put the seven dollars in the bank.

Yo, yo, yoh, that's how he had that million.

Ye put that seven dollars in the eight Lords of forty eight, Lords of Brown, the beef and broccolies.

He wear that bleak with some bullshit shorts and we'd hang every day and not knowing this motherfuckert a whole bunch of money.

Next step is I just started podcasting a little bleak.

I was little.

I wasn't sure I was I was mad.

I wasn't mad no morning, and here I got thirty thou subscribers.

That's what's up the Big Face Gary show.

That's what's up the Big Face?

Well now you do it over FaceTime though, right or like pect me.

Them your man, man, I've stream yard man, I go home.

That's just official.

Nigga got nice everything is yeah, I got the studio, Nigga, I got everything, YouTube, every rib bleek.

But what I'm saying, I've seen you your interviews.

You'll be doing a lot like calling.

That's what I mean.

Like all, that's what I was talking about, not like a face, not like a FaceTime interview.

And I'm gonna keep throwing this bleek face.

I bleek.

I don't care.

You don't like.

I don't have what you have.

But I'm okay.

I'm doing my show.

I just found the spot.

Don't let this fool you.

We've only been here two episodes now, and yo, you know how I found I felt the spot because of dude, say my God, dreamt Star.

I called my my man fresh see from Vegas because we've been winging it out here in New York.

Different.

Yeah, wherever the artists at or wherever I found.

I think I found a home now here because and it came from my bro drink Star from Duce.

I called him.

I'm like, yo, you got a spot.

He like, yeah, I come down here.

Come to find out.

The guy who owned the spot is my bro Armondo, who was down with rad who we started the clothing line.

I am I words spot.

Yes, that's crazy insane, my gee.

And see how it all ties back to me.

You we all all clicked it at the same time.

So they don't let this fool you.

We just got in here comfortable, comfortable.

Yeah, I got the big face Gary show, the big average we do out that go live every other day when I feel like it.

When your crazy podcast was like you got a little weight, say crazy ship.

Yeah, I was chilling, chilling, no shot to nobody.

I'm cool.

I don't want no beat.

Yeah, it's like I was called it that yeah, man, big beat my man.

Man, he stayed throwing chief shots.

We made the truth, right guy.

Yeah, dang, but I threw a shot that dame on.

That's about.

We're all saying that shot.

You told me you said he probably was wrong.

That was on the breakfast, cause that that was on the But Dame been shooting like a while.

Cowboy right, stop is gonna stop.

He's like they truth, They made the truth, him and Camp I and so and you, and I think watching you with him, because I would think that yo, yo, you y'all grew up.

But I'm gonna keep it one hundred bleak.

That was shocked me.

I felt ya should have been.

I felt your ship had asked harder questions than Cam should have been harder, like real cool, like grew up together.

Now get the word what they want to hear.

I'm telling you why I feel bleek.

No, no, no, I respect that.

I respect that.

But my thing, I think Dane went crazy when he saw me and Cam piece it up and have a smooth, cool conversation.

I think dang realized like at that moment, like damn, damn, like what the fuck he did?

Everybody could get back cool, but like what about me?

You know we wait for let him chill like me ship.

Anytime he ready to pull up.

He know, I tell him all the time, Hey, doors always open.

You want to cover your God you would high at the young God pull up because David's like, I wish your uncle man, Yeah, yo, I wish I could get the time to highlight dang.

But you know, I just got to make sure the coast is clear on my side because it's a lot of things you need to and you're wake up in the morning and your YouTube will be a black Yeah.

Hold big, I'm gonna teach my little nephew.

Don't ya your chair new black.

He's very powerful.

He's my friend, but he's very powerful.

Right.

Let that ship is gonna heal some way.

I would never do that, But how does it feel for you to see your man just black?

Because he black on everybody at the point.

Now he's cool.

He was black.

Dame is Dame.

I don't even know what to tell y'all.

I knew Dame before a Rock and Feller, so I know how Dame is.

This is Dame.

But Bleek, I will say, you're hard on them, all right, we t he ain't broke, but Dame's done for me.

He's giving me stuff.

And bleek, I was self working for a shelter out of jail.

Remember, yep, yep, Yeah, I came out and act him like you believe I'm a man's man.

Leven my mom to follow the Bacardi putting a Coco Cola bottle and drinking my ship.

And hanging out with yellow niggas.

What way money to me?

One day I asked j for twenty dollars.

Jason, that's it?

So I want nigga about it?

Didn't give him.

Yeah, Jay's a real nigga.

Yeah.

My point is, I was like, so I stuck in that Dame.

He's had You gotta no, Dame, he's a good brother.

First of all, Dame has diabetes one.

Everybody knows.

Yes, yes, dam used to take the shot about who is in there like this right in the middle of me, and yeah, you want the album to drive?

What day we got?

You may no worry about it.

Dame don't play straight up.

But one thing about Dame Blee will say this, he's very intelligent.

He's not He's very smart, super smart.

Dame is just super arrogant and that's a hard But he's arrogant, he's smart, so he's dangerous.

It's hard believed that you said you gotta know, Dame.

I love Dame.

I'm loyal to name.

I was working the shelter.

I had nothing.

I wasn't poor because you know, my mom wasn't poor if she worked.

I was living with my moms and Dame just told me one day, how much you get paid a week?

Y'all may laugh.

I get hang with y'all, bleak two fifty a week, Dame laugh.

I'm not lying y'all about forty five minutes on the floor.

Then he finally got up.

He said, man, you're gonna work for me for a thousand when we do, I don't know, man, I ain't got no job for you.

I'm gonna give you a thousand dollars a week because you're my man.

This this is something.

Come on me, this, this is ridiculous.

I said, all right, fuck it.

I worked for that.

And then then I didn't have no money.

But them niggas are super fresh.

I had no money to buy clothes, So why am I going?

I had jewelry when I was getting money, but I got locked up.

I pondered my jewelry.

They said, I came Dame to Yop.

I want to get give me the whole sale.

This is what the nigga.

I said, Why I love him?

You think I'm gonna take He called his crew your gat big face.

I need a box into his house.

Every month, I had so much rock for I was giving it away, like you believe your niggas is so much run, I gave it a yeah, I was giving by.

It was too much.

He was too much, too much every week, giving everybody so so blake.

My thing is, Dame is it's tough to know and tough to do it.

And he's getting older and when you get old, you get stuck in your ways.

But I love him.

I stick with him, and I wait.

That's all I can say.

I wait, like I ride.

Don't mad.

That's what you do with JA.

I can't.

You can't see it, Timmy J never got you mad before this decisions about music?

Yeah, you just know.

Never.

I don't get in in the middle of ship with them.

I stay in my You know what I mean with you, J.

No, I don't get their business.

I say, like I can say, I get mad at certain things that I might feel he overlooked and not paid attention to.

But personal ship, I'm like that with Dame.

I don't give you nothing now, Okay, So you like me bela, Oh you know day funks with me too.

I'm being a good nigga who don't never say nothing to them.

He's trying to destroy me, Yo, Nick snapping on my crib bleak.

I'm paying my rent surviving right now.

He ain't helping I don't need but he snapping on my crip all the size about right.

Now, David, he's not in my house right now.

You lin't like that like that, Rember.

Now, one time the motherfucker said, let me let me send you something and something.

That's just how did him and Nori have a fucking fallot?

I thought everything was fan with him and Norri.

Don't give himup, nor give him the plug.

That's one of the main thing I know.

He said, No he was a gatekeeper.

He won't give him the plug.

Yeah, nor he a gate keeper the plug?

Like, and don't let you get you plugged it.

You don't give and I ain't gonn front.

Y'all get mad at me.

I give the plug, but I know what the problem is.

Well, why y'a don't him?

But you ain't gonna say this because the dame is so smart.

His mouth was fucking give him the plug.

He said, nigga gonna give me the plug.

None of y'all say, call whatever, what if you connects argue with the plug.

He's it's out of the plug.

That's the problem.

Yo.

He sat right in front of the plug and told the plug, damn, I'm putting this out to the world.

It's all right.

But he sat in front of the plug.

He called the plug gay.

We have nothing against gabble y'all, I'm not.

I'll help you out a little over you.

We have nothing against Gabe.

Listen, y'all know, listen, listen.

Homophobic that runs have family members on both sides and on both sides, men and women, and I love him like yeah, regular family.

He argued with the plug, Okay, that's his beef, So give you the plug, Bleak.

Don't give the plug, Nigga, don't give the plug.

Camp nor we don't give Nory give him the plug.

So that's why he mad that normal because give him.

I ain't give him the plug.

I think that's really the issue.

He didn't has not given him the plug, and Dame wanted the plug, and I guess they fucked away.

And when we did that thing, that arregum for three hours.

He called me your things, big face.

Damn, it's human he's a damn it's human.

He said, he's cool.

He's cool.

So that's I think it was to be the plug.

You said, you give the plug.

I share say, I don't want to get a plug.

Man.

He he right next to the plug.

He argued with the plug.

He dissed the plug.

They on the internet beefing.

I don't think he even know it's the plug.

You know, you know what I mean?

Drug?

Yeah, but I don't think you know he got got got the coat, the keys, He will give me a connect.

Yo.

This game is crazy because him and the connect who give it all the work away, boatloads of it are on it.

And then that beefing.

That's how they he arguing with Pablo and out here looking for him.

Yeah, yeah, your bucket.

Yeah, I'm with you.

With you.

It don't make no sens.

It's not when you want to you're gonna say, oh do you funny?

I'm not arguing with the plug.

No, what you need pop?

Once I found out this certain somebody was Pablo, Hey, dog, you need somebody whack.

I got some Brooklyn niggas anybody ever short you called me, call you.

That's my main thing.

I may be wrong.

They wanted the plug and he feels Revolt he's there.

Oh, I don't got the Revolt plug.

Well, I don't really watch you tell the world with you your plugging.

I thought the plug for the platform, the podcast everything.

No, I'm thinking the Revoke plug.

Revolt ain't the podcast.

They feeling portion of the podcast plug.

But they're not the plug plug.

They're not the plug plug.

Are you even looking at the wrong plug?

You're teaching me because you because I'm thinking this, No, man, you have to revote mine.

All this ship Laurie is big and Revolt Cam's Revolt Laurie's Revolt.

But that's after after they got their platform launched and they got the following, and then Revoke came and say, you know what, let me give you this bag because we want to put your show on my network.

Yes, they don't launch pad.

You ain't, no, yo, there is no launch pad.

Bleak.

You're putting to work if this is your money, you fish.

Besides, you said nigga, dude, say, ain't even give me a check.

No, I mean that they'll give it you because you know, I just bought this bottle just for this show.

But you're not gonna send me some bottles.

You send me bottles like your I needed it right now.

I needed it right now.

I can't wait for a messenger shoot it.

Okay, I'm gonna tell you your face.

We ain't got nobody the messenger.

I was still drinking alcohol.

Yeah, so I got the battle for you.

I thought we was gonna get it.

We ain't doing that no more.

N I respect that, and I love that about you because you know, it's a lot of people out here who deal with demons who can't shake gun.

You know what I'm saying.

So your bleak so but yeah, no, this is this is how Bleak said.

I'm working to get to the plug.

Yo.

You see the room is d we in the rag.

And Bleak.

I feel kind of good Bleak, because I was i'd be getting mad, Like I know, Bleak, I know what major niggas, But Blease and g you gotta work your way from the Revolt.

See, let's do something.

Yes, I'm not even on Revolt.

If they thought was you schooled me twice?

You you know how I been on Revote because I did drink Champs and I did cam show CAMRA's on my show.

That ship ain't revoke nowhere that ship just voting on that YouTube that ship Pole voted saying no, you got revote.

You gotta get your weight up the versus YouTube.

You know.

Then it's like I heart the plug.

I heard black Effect.

You know what I mean.

Get your follow as, your subscribers, your downloads weekly on your podcast.

That's what dictate what network want to higher at you me fuck you talk ship.

HBO might high that blizzle.

Then what you're gonna say, I'm holding cheating bleeping is your rapping the extra about v H.

You want to come at me and be like, hey, we want to run your shows, the commercials of love and hip hop ny the plug.

Ble you're kind of cheating Bleep because you're a rapper.

People look at this too and go front.

The world knows now you're Jay's man.

People don't know Bleak.

How I stand on my own, man, Yeah, man, I stand on my own.

But listens, I stand on my I'm not cheating, yo, bro.

Listen, Nori.

I told you my wife is like a blessing in disguise, right, I look at Nori in the same light, bro, Because even though I'm doing my thing, I'm coasting.

I'm over investing in different businesses, making music just for the fun of it, not like it pays my bills or anything.

Just for the fun of it.

He's like me, he don't need to be rapping hard.

But Noorri convinced me to do this.

Oh he did.

I didn't, yo, Bro.

I told him the other day.

If I was him, I would have gave up on me.

You understand that, Like, if I tell you something your face, I gotta wait for you to do this.

You know you could come up feed your fan and you like, nah, I ain't with that bleak.

Alright, cool, I'm gonna give you one more shot your face.

I'm telling you, my nigga, this ship might work.

You you playing and you like, nah, I'm not coming.

I'm telling you this is me that might be it.

Yo.

He don't want to do it.

I'm cool.

Norwy was like, no, you're gunna dude.

I don't know.

I don't care.

So that nigga was convinced you made for this, bro, I didn't what he saw in me.

I didn't see in myself.

Well I'm here, I was.

I'm gonna give you my man.

I don't like.

I didn't like the way your podcast either, until I'm seeing with you because I feel that you're very smart, but you put a B boy style that the world don't need to see all the time.

Don't you know what I'm saying?

No smart, you see my part my ship real?

No, no, no, don't let me finish now.

I'm sitting with you, talking to you, absorbing you.

This is who you gotta be.

Yeah, this is me, my nigga always been.

No No, I said, bro, and my life.

I said that.

I'm back.

I'm saying I'm wrong.

This Wasn're smarter than that.

This is who you gotta be.

This is me, bro, this is who you gotta be.

Yes, my nigga talk because even in the rock the bad days, even with dipset face, even with that, you ain't never seen me slamming them niggas like that.

Bro.

I wanted I wanted this ship to work.

I was a nigga like damn.

We we had something brewing, and niggas blew it up because ego, because Harlem Brooklyn niggas don't even go there.

No, my, When the last time Day was in Harlem, when the last time Jay was in Brooklyn.

When you come to Harlem Brooklyn, I just was in Harlem.

You call Jim Jones.

You ain't calling me till I told you.

Come on, man, My man told you come here.

I know you.

All I got is loveing Hall.

They nothe happening in Harlem.

I was damping though you wanted the Vamp last night, I was vamping.

No, I was with Jim Jones with them, We was vamping.

That's his crew.

Vamp did the show last year.

Yeah.

Yeah, artists the artists and we did a collapse.

That's my brother.

You know.

We was talking hash and ship out and just you know, speaking about the what ifs.

And it's like I always think about that face.

Because we had the strongest crew in the world.

Bro.

You had State Property, you had Jay Biggs and Dang, you had dip Set just when they first started brewing.

Then I was there.

Then you had my crew get Low running with us.

Like Bro, we had an unstoppable crew.

Everything in the game would have been monopo Domino effect fell right into the lap of Rockefeller.

What went wrong?

M hm, You wouldn't know what went wrong?

What my opinion, what really really, really really really went wrong.

Yeah, I want to hear from your side.

Expected when I saw I know your crew.

I know Bean's crew, and I know jay No beat him the biggest mistake he made.

And I don't care what comes after.

I don't think anything he does, just how I feel Camp should never thought he could be the president of rock Feller Records.

That's a fact, and not because of you, because as I know, I was there and I know.

How it made people feel.

That's right.

He was wrong for that.

He might have not minute to come out this way.

It was wrong.

But but it's so whacked that it took thirty years to say it, to admit that, like Dame stood on it.

Bro when Jake came home, it was saying Jove's home.

Dame stood on it.

He didn't backtrack it.

It was like, yo, he was bugging.

He went on it.

These my niggas, I'm with them.

Regretted, he said, so you regret He said that he regrets it.

You know what I'm saying, So we can in hindsight, he kind of fueled the lie.

You're bleak, You're right, and damon no, that's a fact.

You should have said when he came home, straight up, you're gonna be the fucking president of doing something.

You know.

What's so ill about that though, because I even said it on my part with Cam, Dame and j had a conversation about that.

I put these two men on the phone before Jay even came home, and the words from Dame on that phone was things weren't gonna be This was bullshit, It's nothing.

But when Jay came home it was opposite.

So it was with j Dahn a conversation with what did say.

Jay was on some yo, I don't know what's going on, but fix it, and Dame was on some All right, I'm on it.

Don't worry.

By the time you get home, shit gonna be right.

And Jay got home and Niggas stood ten toes down on it and jack hammer and no, that's okay.

So that's what did it.

Bro It drove the knife.

In my opinion, it split up a family.

We had a family of Harlem in Brooklyn together and because Niggas stood ten toes on that, it separated our family, right, and it became that side versus this side where Niggas fired all the employees that was from Brooklyn.

Remember it was only Harlem and employees and Rockefeller at the coming in of the day.

He took because everybody Dame fired Jay Hyatt, Lenny.

Well, he didn't fire, Yeah, Lenny not from He took Colleen.

Yeap, he took all the crew.

Bottom line is that, man, I'm with you.

Man.

I was like, yo, what the fuck is going on?

And that's when I just thought didn't like me no more.

No, everybody was so tenseive bleek Beans's crew, you know, for.

Like Beans, and I always felt like them like me, I ain't gonna lie.

I never said it, but I said to you because we family, and I just put it, brushed it off like maybe I'm bugging.

I ain't gonna look too.

But I always felt they properly played both sides of the fence with that.

Really, yes, all of them.

I always felt that because niggas will be over here with us fuck niggas, then you ain't hear niggas albums and niggas is on it so and niggas never like and I felt like, if it wasn't nothing, then you should have been more vocal on trying to piece it up.

That's what you You ain't all of us me, I didn't know what my place was.

I knew I want to tell Joj fix it.

But yeah, nobody was no.

It was only me in you that me from our side from side and you from their side.

That's it.

They would never be broke.

Good every yo, because I got the money, Jay got the mouth.

They're gonna hate Dable.

Everybody was looking at me.

Everybody was looking at me like bleak fuck out my face with that shit you talking about Nigga.

Dame said, we gonna be millionaires.

You don't hear this shit.

And I used to be looking at niggas like it takes time.

Okay, you think Nigga's gonna find the million and give it to you.

Cool if that's what you believe.

You believe that because I know I ain't giving no I find the millions.

I'm not giving it to none of my homies.

We can live together.

I use some brad and I'm not giving you the million, then me go find my million.

Fuck No, it don't work that way, bro like.

And I used to tell niggas that Nigga's gonna give you something they're not.

Remember Dame retired, told niggas they gonna retire like home when we was in the garden.

Anybody retired like that.

When I said, none of us is fucking gonna retire like that.

Dame looked at me like, Bleak, you ain't with the team.

No, I just was with fucking reality.

None of us was that lick.

That's it, yo, it's hot.

You're talking my money, hot.

My nigga.

No, nobody ain't in no position to throw no fucking walk away concert in the Apollo, let alone the garden, the rich people with the rich people where Jay, Dang and Big that's it.

That's it, bro, Like everybody else was just getting bine.

Man.

That's what we got.

Eight niggas on his team who from the hood surviving.

Bean's got his peoples.

He got to take care of them.

He got to make sure they okay.

And so Bleak, you're absolutely right, man, Yo, I'm telling you mamas.

That was only me and Bleak really was like, yo, yo, what the fuck is going on?

Yo?

How can we fix this ship?

Bro?

Yo?

Listen the day Lenny has called me and told me, Yo, Bleak, I got to go to Philly, man, I gotta take niggas they release papers and ship, yo, bro.

I couldn't believe it.

It felt like my world ended that I remember that day.

I don't know, I remember that day.

You know I got my release papers.

To your Jenuel Morocca.

No more nothing.

Oh you got the official release.

Yes, the whole Rockefeller was gone.

That's why when Jay said the song I don't get dropped, I dropped the label like hold on, dog, you're dissing me too, my nigga, I fucked with you.

Why are you gonna shoot on me?

Dog?

I was in that Blendok, yeah, nigga the whole day I gott I was devastated, bro.

That's why I never dropped another album, because my thing was I was raised in a system, and I was comfortable in a system, and I never wanted to learn another system that it was like fucking and that's how I was a Rockefeller.

I'm gonna live in my carriage is gonna die, and that's how I'm there.

That's it.

That's like dang like Bobby Dash Carleen chaka Dara, only.

Like dressed fresh everything you kidding me?

Feeling good.

It was a good situation, man, yo.

Bro.

It felt like going to Rockefeller from from the build, from the office on what West Street in the village somewhere.

Then we went to Varick, then we went to fiftieth Street, Bro.

Every single office felt like family, and it felt like the family was growing and getting bigger and getting bigger.

And then we got dipset.

It felt like, yeah, the family, we really were going.

Now we got mop philly everything like yo, Bro.

And then niggas just got drunk with power and ego and cult and just admit their wrongs.

That's my opinion, bro.

And now it took thirty years for Nigga to say, Yo, I was wilding.

That's a slap.

He think Camp slapped him in the face with what he said.

That's a slap in the face that every fucking artist that was.

On Rockefeller Because I heard like you got some money saved up.

I was fucked up, money saved up?

No, no, well this is what you're not hearing.

Listen, it looked good.

Shit.

I'm from the Projects, bro.

Number One thing a project nigga know how to do is get fly.

You ain't gonna never know if Nigga and the Projects fucked up.

If you know, a nigga and the projete fucked us because he getting high.

But if he if he's sane and focused a parents, you will never know what's in that man bag bank account, not a Brooklyn, let me refuse.

You wasn't You wasn't fucked up, but you wasn't what I thought.

I was like, Yo, what but Blie, I'm gonna keep it up until you schooled me.

I thought, bleak good jay God, he said, ya, you're fucking crazy.

He do.

But I don't go there.

That's what I'm saying.

You didn't go to here.

Yeah, I don't go there for that.

I have kids, big face.

Like if I was a single, if I was out here just winging it, no kids and fuck it, who knows where my pride would be?

Right?

But the man that I was raised to beat and come up in the principles that they taught me from them bigs dang j b high ta.

We haven't seen them niggas asks anybody for help.

The niggas created a wave on their own because they don't act.

So how to fuck cold a nigga like me do it and sit b wait, Come on, my nigga, this is real life, bro.

Them kids need pamps and food every day.

All your kids out of minds, out of it.

But yeah, but my nigga much hard nigga.

My daughter just told me she want to do karate, gymnastics, valet and volley balls.

I'm looking at her like I'm about to move back to the project.

You can do all that ship in front of the building.

That's what that's the costs.

That costs, that costs.

That's what we made up.

Yeah, do that ship right in front of the building.

You ain't gotta go nowhere.

But because of you, you're gonna fight.

You're gonna find a way, and you're gonna pay for the ship.

That's so fast.

What we do, that's that's what a parent does.

That's what a man does.

You do.

We here to be a provider.

I just had this conversation with my son, like probably a year ago.

The nigga would sleep on the couch and I'm like, Yo, you better enjoy It's two o'clock in the afternoon.

You sleep in.

Life is fucking great.

Enjoy it because this one time you start making money, you gotta make money to you die.

You're the provider, nigga.

Remember that you're the man.

There is no couch to go to and lay on.

So when Mimi done with it and you decide to be like this, my lady, you're the provider.

She can help.

You're the provider, and that's a man's job.

It's not to be sitting there and watch your man get money.

To be like, oh my man came up, he gonna hold me down.

That's some fucking You might as well gap get on a fucking poll if you're thinking that, not to make you fuck out of here, man, not to make your fucking laugh.

So I moved on and I said, fuck this ship.

I took time and time, and I know the podcast game.

You get better.

I'm learning from stuff that he taught me, and I know that I got a personality that's right, that's right, and they can't.

They can't duplicate it either.

You.

I used to get mad, Why niggas ain't calling me for deal?

I'm a big face.

You ain't got no so my nigga, I'm not a revolte no no, But I thought you were.

No, I'm not gonna sit here, locky.

I thought you hell fucking no.

Hopefully you speaking of in two existence?

I thought so, if they listen, it's in.

Your system, is right, because Cam built the ship up force.

Yes, you gotta build the foot and then you gotta look at who's sitting there, bro, you big face.

Yes, We're never gonna take nothing away from that.

It's fucking cam Run and Mace Man.

It's not fucking forget that, bro.

But you I don't want you're status.

They have cool, but I might need that thing you think.

No they are, but that's too entities you.

But you chose whatever your me.

I like to just do my shows on my own.

But I'm you know, I'm gonna be honest.

I didn't.

I didn't want to do it by myself.

I was nervous.

I'm telling you face, Yeah, you can tell you getting better.

I think you really broke me because when I see you don't see to.

Me, Bro, no I got I got way better than worried.

Just do you.

Yeah, now I'm way better.

I'm comfortable now.

But I'm comfortable like now I'm comfortable doing this ship.

Face, I'm not gonna stunt you.

This ship was way uncomfortable for me.

I remember telling nor Re Nigga, I don't give up ship.

What niggas thought process was making the album?

Yo?

How you felt today?

Like how you doing?

My brother?

Like that is what I'm saying.

I'm not a journalist, like you know what I'm saying.

Like, so I had to get comfortable and now in this space.

Bro, Yeah, I'm I'm I'm.

I feel like my personality shine and what I'm about it's gonna shine through.

And I just want niggas to respect the platform and be inspired.

Bro, we ain't up here trying to kick.

Gonna pass out yesterday, Yo, Chilly, I don't give a funk.

I said what I want to say.

Can't be mad, I'm not mad.

No, no talk Bank didn't even a lot of a lot of people, yo, And I'm gonna be honest with you, and I'm I'm gonna speak on that Bank called me when the when the uh the audio drop the next day.

A lot of guys, I feel like since the down I want to say, the downfall of music, since they declined individually like all of us, everybody from my era on such a on a sunt on a little bit of a slump, trying to get back the way they once were.

Right.

People forget how much people love you, and I was one of them.

I didn't.

I had no clue.

Bro, I'm in the crib.

You start, you start reading the hate comments more than the love cont so it sticks out more Like I remember a time looking at my Twitter and I could see, Man, Memphis, Bleak ain't shit more than I could see Yo.

That shit you did was dope.

The hate stood out more than me.

And Benk called me and was like, Yo, Bro, I thank you for doing the interview.

You brought me out this slump.

You know, I was in the crib.

I had no clue.

Niggas fuck with me.

I needed this vibe back.

So when you see the video, that's him still in his element thinking, you know, niggas ain't They don't know, bro, And then you sitting here with me, you don't know if I'm gonna bring up some ship you did back in the day on some because we live in the journalistic world where everything is clipping, babe, and every nigga want to know yo.

So I know what you did last summer.

If you do bring it up, all this side of want talk about it, you.

Know what I'm saying.

So niggas sitting here with me, they don't know if Bleek gonna be like yo.

My niggas was like, yeah, he didn't know.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's fair.

You know because remember we've been through personal ship with Bank.

Oh yeah, I could have brought up certain ship.

But I'm not gonna throw homie under the bus and I'm not gonna force him to just a lot of ship.

Yeah, I'm gonna do it.

So it's rules, his principles, and it's guidelines as a man.

But you got you got an eighty hundred years subscribers to the Pard Now I'm about one hundred thousand on.

You got thirty.

I'm grateful for thirty one hundred.

And you're rapper who's well known, who's soul records and people.

And I'm glad they fucked with me doing this, bro like, because this I always tell people.

J always told me, when the world see your personality bleek, your life gonna change.

Yeah, I'm being honest with you.

I felt you could have been more.

But now that I see I'm here, Yeah, this is this is this, Yes, my g Like, I'm I give the interview, we what they give me the interview are like, I can't be hype and you sitting there calm and it's just don't look right.

I just enjoyed talking to you.

I'm looking at you know what I'm saying.

I'm like really bugging out.

How big is a grown.

Groo my g back at you.

See what I saw you.

I'm like face, you lost a bad way.

You looking good?

Your bleak man was man, I was just drinking.

Man, I had a lot of shit going on.

Man.

Yeah, Man, sometimes you got look in the mirror.

I had a mild stroke.

No way, man, I got.

I was fucked up for a month and a half.

Then I went back to getting money.

I said to myself, you're gary.

You gotta stop drinking.

I stopped.

Man, that's good man, and that blessed.

I'm looking at this ship like yo, man, I gotta change it.

I don't want to be rich me.

I don't care about money.

Bleak me again.

I don't put you on blast.

You got more than me, I don't.

I don't care about money.

No, I don't think you do it.

I don't care.

Money don't make you happier.

I don't care.

I think I was the happiest in life when I was broke.

I have more money on the Hard Knocked Life Tour than the Liquid Sprikee Tour, and I was.

I was kicked up by the Sprikee Toy Hard Knocked Life Tour.

I couldn't even without predem Sprie Toy you was good.

So then now that I'm not drinking, I'm looking at God, look at how you grew up to kids and you ten businesses and I got thirty thousand suscribers, but you got a hundred no great, great, thirty thousand year Yo.

I ain't gonna say no name.

I went and checked because thirty thousand, like I was gonna say before.

Before I started this, I thought I needed a co host because I felt like, you know, I'm an artist.

Shit, I don't.

I don't do this journalist shit.

I'm gonna highlight a few journalists and you know, I reached out to a couple of people and they shot me down, like nah, bleak, I don't to do the show with you.

Word out or God.

I ain't gonna say no names because it's all good.

I wish him the best, look, but I go check what they into.

Niggas got fifteen thousand subscribers.

Twelve thousand, so you said you had thirty.

You're doing better than niggas team put it like this, You're doing better than some niggas who got a degree for this ship.

All right, thanks, remember that.

I gotta say.

I gotta say this.

Mad blocks got nick nick got brothers on the block with nicknames.

Big Face Guy was named by Bob, who was killed in the three.

I have a nickname.

It means something because they're crazy Biggs and Dame tell ya thank you again.

That means a lot, yo, Bro, you you a lot, a lot of I'm a peacemaker and I just want to say to you, right, you probably thought niggas ain't like Yeah, niggas ain't fuck with you because you was definitely the voice of dang like you was dumb yo.

Dame ain't like some yo damn yo yo blea Nigga.

I gotta tell you, Dame said them fucking beats on them last three records, and you better telles Blade go back to the drawing board.

Kanye better give you something.

What the fun?

You know how it feels to tell a guy who his ron blood hot smoked about a pound of weed and you gotta tell him.

That versus hard word up.

I don't think it's horrible.

I would have told him the CEO of the company, yeah said yeah, I hate to say.

He is the boss.

That's right.

He was a boss everybody, that's right.

He was the boss and he used to be on me like, Yo, you gotta I know.

He's hard on Bleak because everybody knows Jay and Bleak are like this, and Jay's Bleaker is like his nephew, his son, his he gloved, yo.

You know, so he took He thinks Jay saw Dave wasn't having that ship.

Yo.

You know.

I found out something later in my career about Dang that I never even knew when we was together, Like I found out during the breakup, and it made me like, damn, Dang really really fucked with me because in my whole career, Clue is my brother.

I have nothing against Clue, right, but I felt I always felt like with Clue in my face, Clue showed the most love when I'm not there.

Kluo always gave me the vibe he don't fuck with me, Clu, don't play my music, clut on, you know what I mean.

I only was on the mix tape.

I was only on the mix tape with Jay invited me.

I'm on the song with j you know what I mean.

Or I'm on some shit with Beans like Clue never really embraced me being a part of Rockefell always fire.

I could be wrong.

I don't know.

You know what I mean.

But I found out something later that made me understand maybe why Clue was like that.

Somebody told me that Dame on my first album, that clue that I would do more numbers than Fat first album me too, shout out the Fat.

I would never compare us.

Yes, he had a way better credit me.

He's still with it right, But just for Dame to even bet that on me, I was like, Damn, they ain't really really fucked with me.

Like so those type of stories and the things I know what he did for me and who he was, regardless of the arguments we had on the jet, in the studios, at video shoots, at the movie shoots, at State property too, Yo, I got can name all the arguments I had with Dame.

When you get frustrated, I ain't got to do Yeah, I ain't got to deal with you.

Bleek that nigga.

I still got respect for Dame.

The only time I could say Dame hurt my feelings where I was like, damn, dog, that was a low blow my nigga.

We was at the Change Clothes video shoot and we had an argument, and that nigga was like, man, you talking like you don't want to be here if you don't want to be here, Nigga, I drop you tonight.

Like what, nigga, you ain't got that power?

What he need to go with it?

Yeah, it was like but for him to even say that to me was like, hey, car, you want to meet me in the alley.

That's all.

That's all I I God, damn, That's all I knew was rocket full I take a blood test, rocket fuller coming out of my blood.

I don't know nothing else.

That's a fact, bro.

So that was tery you.

They brought you on as an an R and you had a tough role or tough position, but you was very important.

Bro.

I just want you to know that because I never got a chance to tell you that a lot of raps, a lot of rhymes, a lot of songs, a lot of features with me and beans wouldn't have been what they were if you wouldn't have said what they sent you to say.

It was hard to bleed.

I don't think I like hurt feelings.

You know what I'm saying.

But you want me to go tell the nigger man, I told you what the but that that that breeds and you know who's a real warrior and who a real soldier when they can take the insult and turn it around and make it.

That's mad.

You know what I'm saying.

I wasn't one of those guys like, man, fuck this, I'm done, I'm going home.

You got the pen?

Oh fuck, you have to work, Just go to work, bro.

So you was very important instrumental in that, man.

You know what I'm saying.

Thank you.

I just want to say a couple of things because I know we've been talking again.

Blink.

I gotta use your platform.

I have to do it.

Oh my g what we got?

What we got?

You can smoke on my face?

U yo, chill.

You gave me a rolling trade.

My brother.

This is for you man, because you smoke weed.

I just want the world to know, the Big Face Gary Show, that's right, this is this is my my platform.

Want to have this.

I'm gonna be selling this like we haven't decided probably fifteen only because of the shipping.

But it is what it is.

But it's a very important tray.

I need it and I'm giving it the bleak so he can smoke his weeding.

But a smoke on my big face, Smoke on my big face, and the Big Face Gary Show I come on live every Tuesday at between eight thirty nine.

Please check in.

I'm at thirty thousand, just did it last week, and I'm growing.

I feel better than because we got a hundred weeks of rapper.

He's and he's down with the big homie.

That's really I'm geet up right now.

My brother got a hundred God associate.

I swear to god.

I wasn't nervous coming a senior as a grown man.

You've grown up.

Man fell to somebody special.

I kind of knew, but I didn't know.

And I was like, well, why blea talking?

So but now this is who Bleak is?

That's right, and stay this way.

But I know you don't tell like with your wife.

Fuck out of you.

Yes, I do, my nigga, you bugging My wife know?

She know the vibe that's how you're talking.

Even my daughter know the vibes on your ship.

Yeah, my daughter know the vibes.

Hey yo, hey, don't play with me.

That's it.

This is what this is, man, This this is this project.

Babe Blik is gonna do very well.

This poda.

I see that rolling trades all.

You guys, everybody, and I don't know whatever you have what else you have to say to it but state property.

Yet old Bleak.

I feel you.

Yeah, right, it's going that we Dame, looking at the numbers, We're gonna make it right there.

I want to cheat bottom eight fifty.

That ship stopped at eight fifty second al second album, but all the joints went gold.

Man.

I appreciate everybody that purchased went out there and copped anything, man, because this streaming error, it's.

Oh, I'm learning, it's old, it's new ship bleak learning.

He just said, I'm learning and I'm getting better better at it.

And I'm glad I'm here, and I thank you, thank you.

Come on face man, and I want I'm glad we had this conversation.

Man, I want you to again check me out of Tuesday and more the big face garage Bleak.

I really appreciate you.

No, I'm bro You're my fan, man, and I'm glad you pulled up.

I always wanted to hear because I never got a chance to sit down with Dame and really talk with the conversation.

So I never heard what what you where he thought, or what your perspective was on what went left, or who fault it was on this and I always felt like, yo, bro, we stood on what we stood on and we just wanted niggas to clarify son and they just stood on it.

And it grew so big.

When when big Homie feels way and you feel he's all right, and I work with you, I work on my side.

I got work and we're gonna try to get this right right.

Yeah, bro, since the beginning, when we're working, taking them five years, they got to get something.

I definitely would love to see them.

His man his I don't give fuck.

That's his man.

They did beefing.

He's filthy.

He stands on his own.

That's right, you standing listen like me.

I would love for them to have a conversation just to be called you, just to stop.

Yeah.

It ain't got to mean they don't gotta be business partners, they don't have to be best friends.

We don't got to go golfing, we don't gotta babysit each other kids and go Kombai eye in.

But just to be called you, because this fuckery that goes on on the end of that, my nigga, And know it hurts Bleak and it hurts me because I know jays are my friends.

It's fourteen file is a grown male.

Yeah.

We don't represent that.

Yeah, we don't represent that, but I ain't well.

We still heart bleak.

We do truth.

We're gonna try to get them together.

The fact, bro, you know it.

I don't know if you have more.

I love all your thank you, thank you brother, and this I already know.

And get the fuck us up for this.

This is incredible.

Now we're doing that thing.

We're doing that thing, man, you know, thank you so much.

You know what it is, man, this is rock solid.

This is big face Gary, legendary, witted Upper west Side.

From Upper west Side, Hallers my second home every Tuesday between eighty nine, I come live every Tuesday, fucking Hall.

Of legend Man, your Upper west Side Riverside.

I love all your peace.

You already know rock salad, y'all norri Yeah, drink Champs black Effects.

Let's do say you know fucking winning.

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