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Omillio Sparks | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek
Episode Transcript
What up, y'all.
This is your main man, Memphis Bleak right here.
Welcome to Rock Solid her production of iHeart Radio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over at Drink Champs Big with the year Memphis.
I'm back, Addy, niggas.
Notice the difference, just pressy Stones.
Yeah, y'all you know what it is.
Back with another one, rock Solid And like I tell you, every time you see anybody on this platform, I mean a he my brother two a rock solid man.
This is my guy Sparks in the building.
You know what I'm saying.
I want to welcome Zoo to the building.
We call them Joey Zuzu, you know him from Old Skino and Sparks shout out all out there doing his thing.
How you bet?
My brother Ry Yeah, yeah, Ryan, he just you know I do.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 3I'm helping the communities right now with the Million Sparts Foundation, and I've just been out just doing that, working on writing my own TV series two baby Boy, the series.
Speaker 1That's the hole.
Speaker 3I'm just running around doing that constant.
Oh my bad, they turn this around.
Got my own little clothesline.
Your boy being creator kept me alive, you know, that's what kept me around.
I've been just pushing that and pumping that, staying out the way.
It's just focusing on my next move.
That's it.
Speaker 1That's what something.
Congratulations on everything you've been doing with your foundation, on seeing you out there, you know, doing not getting the thing to the community with the kids.
That's so dope.
Now come ind you, but we're gonna go back, man, Let's go back.
That's my dude, Joey Zoo Zoo.
That's Rockefeller.
I want to say to you here now live camera.
So the world, no yo, bro to me on Rockefeller, it's dope spinners, there's dope rappers.
We had.
It's the best punchline, the best flower to me.
You always had the best lines, like in your rhymes.
The way I used to sit there and be like the fuck nigga running around playing and all day high.
Then he getting that boost and it's like like the line I told you outside, bro, before we started, you.
Speaker 3Said, tell ustle line, tell us of us.
Speaker 1That's my favorite verse from everybody on Rockefeller.
When you say, what do you say to a mom who lost her only son to the game and the gun?
Right, it's sapt Bama I'm a ride for him, right yo.
Speaker 3My g come on, man, and you know it's wild about it.
That's where that's funny you say that.
That's why I got to the minute, because them still some kind of storyline still exists to this day.
Now you look at Philadelphia, what's going on in the media.
I hate looking at it, but you know, I gotta be on there and the pump and do that stuff.
That's why my own foundation phase.
But it's kids that's really going through that right now.
Yeah, you're going through it.
I see people coming through and they got the uh they set up shop and the guys are talking about the pain that they going through and they cry and so that stuff's still going on to this day.
So that's what's happening to us when.
Speaker 2We's thirteen fourteen, So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3So when we where we at right now, we transitioned into from boys to men.
So now we you know, I felt like we had our obligation to come back at least try to save something.
Help.
Speaker 1That's right, man, And niggas know a lot of people, you know, the word on the internet is that Jay stole it from you.
They don't know that you actually was in the studio and created the record together, right, you know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3I mean it was one of the things we you know, we did.
I lend my pemouship to like.
But that's the big homie.
It's still anything you know.
Speaker 1I'm right, yo, man.
It was in the video we tour together.
Speaker 2We brotel Is when you just went somewhere you got the joint.
Speaker 1You did it, and it was like and you ain't got no credit on the record, Like you still got your rights credit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2It's one of the things and it's.
Speaker 1Sad features how you steal something and I put your name right that's a lot.
Speaker 2Because it's my voice and everything on it.
So it still looked out.
Speaker 1So I was that man, that session I wasn't there for that wasn't there.
I wasn't there for that session.
What's doing the dynasty?
You probably?
Yeah?
Speaker 3And I think we was in uh he was working on the UH and he was in the eight room and I was in the b room working on the Owen Sparks album and I was doing give It to Me record and Uh.
Then Mac come over there, and Mac like what's going on there?
What you're doing.
Speaker 1I'm like, I'm grinding you do.
Speaker 3So we had the hook you go tell whole hole hair.
I was like, oh damn, like this joint.
And I was like, all right, well, you know we're working on the dicey.
Speaker 1I'ma be on it anyway, let me get it, let's go.
Speaker 3I was a team player on that one, you know what I'm saying.
So at the end of the day, we did the record with Forrel, which is the biggest, one of the biggest producers in the industry, and and the rest is history.
Speaker 1That's that, man, That's that's crazy.
Man, Like I never got to work with Forrell.
Just right there on the spot, I had a nor he gave me just like, there's that your chick.
I don't take that as me working with Timbo.
I got you.
I was just hum bleak put some verses on.
You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying.
I want to sit there and work with these guys.
You got a chance to do that with one of the games and that night.
That's special, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3And that's that's you know, from our standpoint at that time, I didn't realize how a bunch of huge impact of this like on on on that side of things, because those are huge names.
You know, we taking up in the big home like for them, a big, huge name that we were young.
So you know, we didn't know that.
You know, it's a verity, but that's the books.
Speaker 1That's one thing I say, you don't know.
You make your history while you're doing you're doing it.
You're just going you know what I'm saying.
And that's how we did it.
So I did the relationship with you and Beans start for you to even become a part of state property.
Speaker 2I mean he was there, he was already there.
Speaker 1Yeah, Beans was already.
Speaker 3So I met them through through Black Friday, I think.
Speaker 1Yeah, mister piece real role.
Yeah, I mean Black Friday.
Speaker 3Black That's how we met.
So so Mac was over there already and then that happened.
And I think the uh, like the movie when we did stay Prop was like my twin.
Speaker 1Everybody like this twin.
Speaker 3You guys looking like you know, so I'm like, damn, you wouldn't say we like, you know, what's crazy?
Speaker 1Like the record?
Speaker 2You got what you think of that?
Speaker 3What you think I used to be running through the city didn't have a listen that what you think, so listen.
Speaker 2So when we did that, So we built a relationship on.
Speaker 3That though outside I just had to tell you that outside of that, because we was on that set in Jersey City for a long time.
Then we details of a hustler, so that took to the public.
That took to the public like crazy.
So and then we just grew a relationship.
It was up and down.
You know, It's one of them things that was rocky, you know what I'm saying.
But we got to know each other because you know, we're from different sizes.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's from South he's from a lot of people don't know, you know, Philly.
It might seem small, but that ship is.
Speaker 3Second just like geograph stuff like that.
Speaker 1Was like, but I got there.
Speaker 3I wanted some money.
I was thinking, like, Yo, let's get the money.
Speaker 1That's right, You've always been there, like like thinking, you know, forward thinking, like out of the crew.
Like I was talking about that outside, I was like, damn a save it for the part because you know, a lot of people want to know how we felt during the breakup and the line, and I was gonna say out of everybody that I used to tell yo, bro, this ship Yo, you're wild, and this ship might be going down.
You was the only one who used to be like em for real, nah em this shit they bugget.
We gotta get the big homies together.
Like anybody else used to just look at me be like whatever, I'm getting money.
I don't give a fuck what they do.
But you was definitely focused, like and we can't let this ship go, my niggah.
It hurt me.
Speaker 3Word out hurt me because I felt a part of something, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1Who you said?
Speaker 3It was like, ah, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2It happen.
Then when we did that for the Dynance, it was.
Speaker 1Just I didn't participate in.
Speaker 3That, Yeah, And I felt that, like damn.
Speaker 1It was like no, because when I wrote the script, I'm like, you're making a movie up there, and then what's actually happening now, It's like, wow, I can't be a part of that.
But I want to tell you too.
Going back to State Property, you was the best actor in State Property.
Like Beans did his thing, but you bought beans character to life.
You made the movie what it was.
You was that guy man.
Speaker 3Yeah, because I had to, you know, they gave me my part.
They gave me that part I had.
The first we was getting news like if you you coming from the Red World, you better not be playing.
Speaker 1You're gonna take this.
Speaker 2So I took it serious.
Speaker 3But uh, thank you people, because I got two thumbs up from even Rupert.
Speaker 1I was like, well, yeah, man, I'm telling you, you did your thing in part one and part two.
So I was one day.
Did you ever try to, like audition for any other roles after Stay Property anything more serious?
Speaker 3I did, But you know what it was, it was indy.
You know what I had to learn about business.
Sometimes you could do indie stuff, you know what I'm saying, But it's union stuff out here too.
So it's business this, this, this, the politics and certain things.
It's just totally different, you know what I'm saying.
So with the breakup, because like with even with that movie, if I knew that really was going, I wasn't participating that.
I knew it was you was up to, but I couldn't my own going through the little other stuff.
But at the end of the day, with the as far as the movies and stuff, a lot of rolls came up.
But it was just like in the stuff instead of more cause I'm sagging union too.
You know what I'm saying, right when they coming that way talking to some super you know, some super numbers.
But I had to live and learn, you know what I'm saying.
I just wanted to stack my resume up.
That's right, man, It's never too old for acting.
Speaker 1Man.
I see you be out there in l A doing your thing.
Man, they definitely need to throw my guy those roles.
You want to see that action.
Check out State property man.
Everybody else in there was freestyling.
I felt like when I did scenes with you Zoo, it was like this motherfucker.
Really, I used to be saying that in my mind, like I'm over capping on camera, Like motherfucker.
Speaker 3You know what it is.
I gotta go and get a like an agent or something.
I try to manage my own life, and then people be in my life.
Speaker 1I'm always going through a crisis.
Speaker 3I always got some family crisis going and I'm going through it.
Speaker 1Then that that's where the business goes wrong.
That's what's yes, bro, trust me, I know you know I've been through it with my brother and all of that.
You know, shout out dre out here making moves right, yeah, man, suld definitely get real when the family issues come up and definitely deter you from your track.
How did you ever feel that you went, oh, never got a chance to drop the album?
Speaker 3Man, Like it was crazy because we was the first one there understood the circumstances.
But I think we could have.
Everything happened fast though.
This is what I learned about the business.
The money is coming in, you know, so so with us, it was one of the things like once whole say this is your summer, you gotta buckle down.
I know, I know I was a few as the wild card, but you've been nice to sleep in the studio and.
Speaker 1Go get dressed, y'all come back.
I got a whole album.
Speaker 3So that's why it's important for me to tell my side, you know what I'm saying, Because it'd be like you see a lot of stuff you turn on the TV, and it'd be like, hey, those guys are telling my story.
Speaker 1You know the money from it.
Speaker 3I said, call the guy, man, we gotta make some moves and make some money because the guys are actually making the money off telling my story.
And I and I'm like, whoa something gotta give?
That's right, and why you'd be like enough is enough?
Speaker 1That's right, man, Like they definitely tried to paint it out like you was the lazy guy in.
Speaker 3The cool I'm KIDM Johnson, y'all k dot Johnson in the records.
By the way, thanks sold for the look.
I'm on the joint, gave my credits.
Speaker 1That's right.
Like you was always on time interview studio, little Anna Edges.
But we all was young, bro, it was young.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying having some money, yeah.
Speaker 1And that you don't having money.
They throwing money at you, jewelry, tore the girls on you, ass Like what you expect me to do?
I gotta crash out somewhere, yeah, I.
Speaker 3Said, you know what, that's why I'm back.
I want I want.
Speaker 1To get it off man.
That's right.
What's your what's your relationship with oh?
Now?
Man?
Speaker 3Well, I did try to reach out to him chop it up with about things, and I just can't reach back out to him and let him know you know how he felt, how he felt because I know how he felt about a few things.
And a few other guys reached out, you know, they ain't reached out to me.
I actually had him down at the foundation.
But they was running around doing anything with the movies thing, and I was doing that, so you know, I was busy doing that.
Speaker 1And that's all to be.
I'm in traffic, was rolling with damn hard like y'all.
Was like Dane definitely took part of state property a lot like y'all.
Speaker 3Because I know they worked in the mac whatever they worked out, I know that was and I guess that was his baby and his project.
And then we had dipse.
We had a lot of divisions over there.
We had get load dip set.
Then you got it was a lot going on.
We had MP Twister came up, so we had folks over there.
Speaker 2We had squat over there.
Speaker 3Joe Buddens was there for a minute and he was in the photo shoot with us.
I think.
Speaker 1Maybe I'm wrong, Joe, don't take this as a distant give me five minutes of slaughter on the show.
I wasn't at that show, baby, at that shoot.
Speaker 3But when I'm looking at but I was looking at the book, remember the rock book we had, And I thought I saw him in the photo shooting.
Speaker 1No, he was in the car photos.
I just never was there.
But Joe was always my dog.
I used to see him around just being with Clue in them.
You know what I'm saying.
That's right Clue.
Yes, you know Clue was down on the team.
Yeah, Clue, Clube, Duck and the Smoke.
I've been trying to get Flu up here.
Speaker 2You don't want to talk.
Don't want to talk.
Speaker 1Duck and the smoke.
Clue ain't gonna bring up tour days.
We ain't gonna bring.
Speaker 3That to get over whatever we went through, it's over, guys.
Speaker 1You know we had a weird showing people at the time.
Speaker 2We're going through things and trying to express ourselves.
Speaker 1You know, we had to get through these things.
The toys was crazy.
You had to be built for them.
Speaker 3Y'all started fast from the backstage, but it was a wild thing.
Speaker 1You came around that rock the mic.
Yo, Zoo used to be going crazy Zoo.
You're going Zoo, room Ship be a movie.
It was like Zoo.
What you got like I got them all from Randy Whatever you had had fun.
Speaker 3Fun Yo.
Speaker 1Do you feel like you missed out on any opportunity that you feel like you should have took more advantage of, Like.
Speaker 3You know, far As film, the music, the music that I'm not tripping.
I always got good records to put and plus plus the internet, you could just because not too long ago, I did an independent project and I flooded it.
It was just one of the things.
It wasn't the same as being.
Speaker 1With the game.
Yeah, I was looking.
Speaker 3I was going over some stuff that they do on my paperwork with some emails and stuff like that, and they were talking about it was computer savvy, but I remember doing things on paperwork.
That's right, you know what I'm saying, The kite and that, that kind of stuff.
So it was one of them things like it's different.
You know, I can adapt, but I got kids, you know what I'm saying.
So they the ones that and Daddy, you know, that's the problem people trying to undermine something because that's what we at and that's what we got generations for.
Speaker 1And that's who see it.
They see it.
They the ones who come back to you, Daddy, Why is this person saying this?
Daddy?
Why did this person do that?
Speaker 3Yeah, because at that part, with all the stuff going on, they say, Hey, but that's what's crazy about it, because that's why I had to get myself right, because they're paying attention anything else.
When I was wild, they was put up.
Speaker 1That's right.
Yeah, they was babies.
But now they're older.
They definitely because my son beyond me, Daddy, Why this person say this?
Speaker 3Yeah, they spun, they watch it.
So you got to conduct yourself in a decent manner.
Speaker 1That's a fact.
Speaker 3Man.
Speaker 1Like the Rock and Feller break up was one thing, but the state property breakup was another.
Man he felt about that.
Speaker 3Well, well, state, it was already a groups in sections already, you know what I'm saying.
So I felt like I felt like when when you start something, you ever start something and then they don't get finished.
Speaker 2I hated it, you.
Speaker 1Know, I hate it.
But somebody start something.
I want to finish.
Speaker 2So y'all started, I like to finish.
So that's where I come from.
Speaker 3So at the end of the day, it was like one of the bittersweet things, and I was like, hey, that's like a record, I really yeah, yeah, yeah, everything go back to the writing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1When we didn't right, that's right, man, Definitely like growing up in Philly, man, Like we was talking outside.
You know, Philly is east west, No, it ain't no east, it's south west North.
German Town Southwest fish Town Town, Yeah, uptown Southwest.
I ran through.
I remember when I first met my wife.
I was driving through Philly and she was like, which way do you came, And I'm telling her the streets I came down and she like, yeah, you rolled up down bottom and I'm like, what's that.
She's like, that's one of the most gangster blocks in Philly.
Speaker 3I'm like, yo, you lying right, that's I'm from out west to bottom.
Man.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3It's on the news the murder and everyone down there.
I think I gave it to him on State probably want member till Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3I was explaining the guys what was going on down there and then yeah.
Speaker 1Man, like I wasn't growing up in Philly.
Like when you feel like, out of all the Philly spinners, you made your mouth, do you feel like you put your employ I love my Mark.
Speaker 2I love my Mark because it can't be like duper kids.
Speaker 1That's right, it's like one of them things they still trying.
Speaker 3That's even feeling everybody's pissed, hey, because hey.
Speaker 2Man, this is different.
Speaker 1You know what's going on?
Speaker 2So with my Mark, because you remember when that started, it was the flows was different.
Speaker 3Remember had that float.
Speaker 2I just straighted my own lane.
Speaker 1That's right, I love it always was the different one out of the rock.
But that got like the most love.
When we touched the stage, like Zoo, come on stage, the motherfuckers would go crazy.
You'll be like, yo, this nigga wrote this verse five o'clock in the morning, half sleep.
We was in there all the night trying to do this.
Speaker 3Ship because because we're coming from a place where if the underdog or something else, because be the guy that kicking and beating us up, they're doing they doing us filthy.
You know how many people world wid that's happening to.
So even if I'm in my element, that's my zone, and and and we put it out, you know it's gonna make something.
Speaker 1That's a fact.
Zoo, that's a fact man.
Like man, I missed the tour days, the studio days.
Man, we we had some hell of a fucking times.
Speaker 3Man.
Speaker 1Now it was my fucking guys.
I steal my bros.
To this day.
I hate to see where all of us is at that like, you know, at the end of the day, you know, beans, we got our differences.
I haven't spoke the sequel yet.
Speaker 3You and Bean still I've seen from time to time when we don't even really talk.
I try to go past this truck and.
Speaker 1Hang down.
Speaker 3Wanted to grab something and it was closed.
But it's crazy because they see all that, but we don't see each other.
That's why the bisness look crazy.
So so that's really what it is, you know what I'm saying.
It's like and that's cool.
That's why I did my own thing independent, you know what I'm saying.
I could sell my own stuff trademark patner, you know what I'm saying.
But twisted, I know that I'm still a brand.
I come from a major situation, that's right.
Speaker 1Yeah, Like you said, the heartbeat, you know what I'm saying.
You was the heartbeat of State problem bro, like the rock like all of us, bro, Like you definitely held it down for the crew.
Like used to be bombing on niggas yo, y'all bullshit, that's get to work, that's go to the studio.
Fuck these bitches yoat niggas playing fuck this ship.
Man, we ain't gonna have this ship forever.
Like you was definitely on that vibe.
Speaker 3If they give them that drive, that motivation work.
You know what I'm saying, come on, guys, because I felt I lift like we now, we don't know how long we're gonna be here, That's right.
So I lived like that, and and and the catalog shows you know what I'm saying.
So when everybody trying to pick on me and show me that kind of leg away in the rent, I'm like, I.
Speaker 2Get it, but where you at?
Speaker 3That's right, you see what I'm saying.
So that's that part with that.
So the State prop breakup, it's just one of them things.
I feel like with the game they supposed to.
You know, we s could have set at the table because what happens is if people still bringing it up, we're still in that hundred, that hundred top hundred jones of like fourteen fifteen because we part of rock didn't get around it.
So if it's still moves.
Speaker 2To make and everybody looks selfish, look crazy.
Speaker 1They look crazy, bro.
And you know, I don't want to bring up conversations, but I was just talking to certain people.
You know, free, my bro, I talk you free every day, right, you know what I mean?
Crack hit me the other day and crack like yo league, this ship going on.
I don't want to be a part of this.
I can imagine it.
I can imagine, like yo, crack, what's going on.
Speaker 3But my thing is where I'm coming at, because if somebody asks for y'all, that's what I told them to where so my thing with me it'd be like where we got a problem at because somebody bringing up all crap about some other stuff that watered that's under the bridges water of the bridge.
And if we're arguing about things that we shouldn't be arguing about, that's a little bit crazy.
Speaker 1To come on, bro, we can't all your about starting that happened twenty years ago.
Speaker 3But here we're grown, like everybody knew family that's insane.
Speaker 1These are things that left.
Speaker 2To make you get thick skin and so they make you wise.
Speaker 1And then the guy that passed down the book to him and say, look this how you move if you're a parent of any all over ship twenty years ago is insane, Like that ship is whack.
Like Crack definitely was like bleak, I ain't fucking with nothing.
I'm cool, I'm laying low up with the kids.
I don't want nothing to do with nothing.
I get it, like, but I definitely got to have a conversation with Beans, right.
I definitely got to to the to see.
Speaker 3It makes sense, you know, because y'all was gang like.
Y'all was the two that you know what I'm saying, that was there before.
So at the end of the day, that's a situation and you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1And you was like to him, how I am the whole you was to beings like you was there?
You know that me and Beans we put in a lot of work to brow togain on camera and just slid like be like yo.
I think Jay helped Bleak with all his raps like oh no, no, no that I was like.
Speaker 3I heard somebody stuff was talking about they get back to me and they be trying to pull me into them conversations like what it's like.
Speaker 1My nigga all them nights in the studio, squad like come on, came in there and said, who hold, don't even talk like that, Just come.
Speaker 2On, God, let's just get to the.
Speaker 1Yeah, man, like what's going on?
I think the Gang becoming ship fucked up a lot of things with us because we was before this and a lot of people don't know that when when you when you do something on the net.
This shit last forever.
There is go back in it.
There is no go back.
The only thing you can do, like we said outside, if the disrespect is loud, the apology gotta be just as loud's.
Speaker 2That's what I said.
Speaker 3Because I went back and looked at some of the clips and stuff like that, and I realized, Okay, we can't hide these things.
We can't do this and all that kind of stuff because I am in the public.
And when I realized that that, you know, somebody somewhere was trying to pull my jacket somewhere and I couldn't understand it.
I didn't get the men, I ain't get the memo, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2So I didn't know.
Speaker 3But at the end of the day that when you're putting it out there, it looked great.
So what public apology has to be made before we can do any business because phone calls are coming through.
But a public apology before we get the money.
Then we can get to the money.
Speaker 1If we're going to be publicly, because that's what.
Speaker 3Wrong right anyway, and that's what you see.
So at the end of the day, it's one of them things because a lot of stuff goes wrong with is somebody else's situation and you're trying to mirror it.
Speaker 1That's a fact.
Speaker 2So you know what I mean.
Speaker 1And I was always happy for my dogs.
Man, you was the movie guy.
You did State Property one two, Death of a Dynasty, and I believe you did Paper Soldiers too.
I get to do that when y'all had no They only put me on one clip.
Put me on one clip, and I ain't even want to do that.
I ain't even want to do that one.
I was like no, because I knew what was going down.
Man, And I'm like, niggas pulling me on both sides of the crew.
It is like, naw, I'm staying on one side.
Yo.
Speaker 3I'm one hundred percent believe in that.
I serve two masters.
No, that's your mind.
Speaker 1You going crazy, And that's what do you feel like?
State Property?
Like a lot of y'all win the split hap been went with that.
Speaker 3Now, I ain't went with nobody that said the split sheet came.
You know what I'm saying, because you remember I went home and did my payback out so so so if he doesn't have that's catch.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Yeah, it was the first.
Speaker 2My own million entertainment my.
Speaker 1Ship went the first one to drop it.
Yeah, yeah, I win did my own thing.
Speaker 3I was like, I'm just you know what I mean, just go through my thing because there was a lot of friction going on and that's what I was on anyway, and then you see me, if you saw me, it was like, all right, I was still bust move because y'all taught me a lot.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying.
I learned a lot of top So.
Speaker 3I'm like, yo, I'm applying.
Speaker 1Y'all can see it.
Speaker 2If y'all you know what I mean.
If not, then you can't say.
I ain't give it a whirl.
Speaker 3But at the end of day, that's why I did my own independent album.
Speaker 1Like You definitely wasn't the non drama one.
Like when it came to business, I feel like you was the non drama one, right, But when it came down there, Yo, it's lively.
Speaker 3Called rights my fucking god, because I know he like zoom, he locked out, he knocked out, You got him security of the room breaking.
Speaker 1You ain't waking up.
You know that nigga was drinking drunk, a whole bottle of him to see last night, this nigga was going crazy yeah, yo, yeah, it was a rock star.
You was rather a fellow rock star.
Speaker 3Jesus kind of stuff.
Speaker 1You know, by the part of my life.
God, that was a part of my life.
Speaker 3What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1I thank god.
Sometimes I say we should have had social media, But for those nights, I thank god was did yeah missed?
If you understand, if you knew how that was going, Yo, the Knights in Miami, Like I remember when we went on the we went on the tour and we got to stop in Miami and fucking this is this is you probably don't even remember this.
This is when Bobby Dash was there.
We was promoting, promoting.
It's when y'all was promoting the State Property album and we was on a little run for that was on tour at the same time, all right, And remember we got to Miami and Bobby was like, Yo, I got to do a party with some you know, some vps, you know, some radio people or whatever.
And then we was like what kind of party you're doing.
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna get some strippers over there in the hotel.
So remember we crashed the party.
The djob like turn in the hen sweating like he used to hate us.
Rest go and y'all used to be the driver.
Y'all used to be all going.
I remember we was in the van rest of Beast going, Yo, we in the vans, me you freeway, Beans, b I murder all of us in the van that he was dropping us in New York.
This was New Year's Eve and Beans was like, they'll bleak this nigga, don't get us back to Philly before the ball drop is on.
That nigga zoo like, Yo bleak.
Tell Beans, chill out.
Tell us a nigga chill.
It might be traffic bleak.
It's they used to be just tripping some time.
You know, I like, Yo, cool out, Matt.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying, Tell you just chill, Matt, chill.
Speaker 1Any times you and Mac did any road shows when you had to call mackdown because Max from zero to a hundred.
Speaker 3Twenty nights, plenty nights, even with that show when he's out of North Carolina being whole and macnum, I wasn't there that one.
Yeah, I had the follow, Yo, Mac, what is you doing?
But you know, a lot of them times, That's what I'm saying.
A lot of nights that people they're talking about the separation.
You know that truck all us getting tagged.
Speaker 1That's what I've be looking at.
Speaker 3That's how I used to my my, my whole outlook with it.
That's where I used to be on my joint.
Speaker 2He never knew you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1But we used to have them ratties on the road.
I know you used to bring them raties were not slipping on that road.
Speaker 2Three buddy had the A B seat buss.
Speaker 3Yo.
Speaker 1Remember yo, the sea bus was rik his island right, it was right was up the alley that you was be saying that, like the all number A bus caught on fire.
Yeah, I remember what was they got it?
No, No, that was used to my own.
Speaker 2That was back stage, y'all joint.
No somewhere else we went.
Speaker 1No, we was We was with Free Member Freeway had the Ikey Muslim.
The Muslim brother was its manager on the tall and he was like, Yo, that's his name, shout out nigga, Like Yo, the bus on fire, get away.
It's about the bloom.
You don't remember that everybody luggage burnt up, But that would be would be what that was rocked.
The mic that was rocked.
The mic tour my nigga, remember Sabin, it wasn't around.
Speaker 3No no, because the Free had changing for yeah yeah.
Speaker 1Free had like eight man.
He was trying get it right.
Speaker 2Yo.
Speaker 1You know what it was was my God pies to God.
Speaker 3Yeah just say yeah some medical problems.
Speaker 1No way, man, Damn, I hope we get better, man, God blessed man that nigga used to be on tour with us, chefing up on the bus.
Nigga.
Sure we ate God to come through with that food like we lived for sure.
Like, Yo, is it anybody from Rockefeller?
Because you had a lot of different relationships with different people, Like is it anybody you feel like?
Damn man, I wish we had more time to really lock in and put that work in at Rock.
Speaker 3Yeah, like all us like remember like me and you never got try to chop it up all the time.
Speaker 1Because you was running.
Man, he was running.
That's why Zoo, That's why we never got to make a record Zoom sleep, I come into stoop because everybody used to work in the morning.
Speaker 3Was yeah, like damn, never really chances.
That's why I used to always just do the records.
You know what I'm saying, Like, Damn that I never catch up with you.
There wasn't no too many because you know, we were stay proud.
I got to kick it with Home and bigs and so it was too you know the rest of us that just take care of us, you know what I'm saying.
Other than that, that's it because we never got the chance to give a bust the kind of moves like that.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's that's that's crazy, right.
We never did a record together because I was an early morning studio nigga.
That's why the Beans and Bleak album didn't work, because y'all niggas was live rats middle of the night, one the five, six in the morning.
Me, I'm nine to twelve in the afternoon and I'm back in the street.
Speaker 3You was on it, yeah, and I I was like my daytime activities.
You know, even I'm exhausted.
I said, oh, let me just get this off my check.
Speaker 1But you was on it.
Speaker 3That's all it was.
Speaker 2But day and night sometime go together.
Speaker 1Yep.
No, we was chasing.
I was.
I was out there in the morning.
I was definitely chasing in the streets.
Speaker 2I'm like that, now, let's get it there early.
Speaker 3I'm very professional now because that's why I turn with tardiness and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1I learned a lot.
I tell my son and I tell everybody man, Like anybody calling this eleven twelve o'clock and they just getting up.
It's like, oh, life is good.
You can sleep this late like niggad.
You know the checks get cut, Yeah in the morning.
Speaker 3That's what I'm saying, And that's why it's important for us to get back to the Yeah that's going the wrong way.
Speaker 2We got to bring it back to us.
Speaker 1Definitely with us.
Speaker 2Everybody is nobody else can do it but us.
You did gonna come from.
Speaker 1That's why I started this show.
Like Norri was like, yo, Bleak, shout out Norri too.
Speaker 3You know.
Speaker 1He was like, Bleak, you should get in this space.
You know, you know a lot of shit.
You was cool with everybody from Rockefeller, so you like the only guy that everybody really you could bring everybody together and they're gonna respect the story that which I tell it.
And I was telling him, I'm like, yo, bro, I'm not on none of that chasing that viceroom moment, right, I'm not on that.
If we're not on here giving out game and lightening these young niggas giving out some inspiration or you know, put an idea in somebody's mind to go further over it.
I don't want to be a partner.
Speaker 3Sh ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1That's what it's about.
That.
We ain't gonna be out here doing no whole ship.
That's not That's not what we're about.
Man.
We ain't kicking nobody, and we definitely we can talk about the fun nights.
Were not gonna name the name, and I'm gonna be like, yo, I had Shorty over here, Shorty over you look like a major limit drive doing that.
Speaker 3You know what I learned about some of the business some people.
Speaker 2Some people is just different.
Speaker 3I was just explaining about it's good business and then you got bad business.
You understand.
Speaker 1Definitely the good business feel good.
You know that's right, that's right.
You gotta ship ain't doing but you mean me, your vibe is off and all that.
So, so you know what the firm believer that every dollar is not a good dollars, right, you know what I mean, money come from You can take money from good people and bad people.
Speaker 3I just came from Atlantic City, right, it was like it was like it went crazy.
But the guy had the whole layout for me.
I could have just you know, it's a difference, you know what I'm saying, that's one thing if I gotta raise my my pressure up and all that.
Speaker 1If I'm gonna say it's one thing I missed from back in the day.
You just bringing up Atlantic City.
I fucking missed the forty forty in the live, Yo, that's what fucking that man?
Step for what am I doing?
I was supposed to be what was't a problem?
Yo?
Whoa The forty forty in Atlantic City was Philly fucking had that was having what that was heaving for anybody?
Yo, forty forty You know, I'm telling you.
You went up there, it was like across across the table were trimming.
Speaker 2We had flow and then and that was just starts spot.
Speaker 1That was the spot.
The forty forty and fucking Atlantic City.
Man, what a fucking time.
Atlantic City is not what it used to be.
Speaker 3Man, No, it's different.
Was going to need more.
Speaker 2I think I think we gotta get back out there.
Speaker 1Yeah, man, something got back.
They be doing a lot of concerts now.
Everybody be camming out.
Speaker 2There and it's just out there right.
Speaker 1Yeah.
They did they ship yeah at the casino.
Yeah something I know, shock, throw a bag out there.
Okay, he redeveloped right now, it's a good time to invest in Atlantic City.
Yeah, some big ship, big big, big, big moves happening.
Speaker 2Man.
Speaker 1Yeah, niggas got some bread to.
Speaker 3Play with, ana, because we need that good business back, that's right, and because if you give it to bad business, the world starts to cross.
Speaker 1Oh yo, it's a lot of That's when I woke.
Speaker 3Up, and that's what I say.
I got to call him that the world's falling apart, looking at the world's falling.
What's going on here?
Update me, Update me on everything, man.
Speaker 1And one thing too, my platform, bro, like all of us as brothers, but watching my dogs crash out.
But I'm yeah, no, y'all see you.
That's why you you always been who you are.
You sparks, You the life of the party, you have your fun time.
You're a businessman, your family man.
You're an entrepreneur, you're an activist.
Now your fucking movie star like a fucking rapper, entrepreneur, you're doing business like come on, bro, they need to.
Speaker 3Know this ship and that's what that's why you got to be on the right platform.
That's right, because the crash out of somebody that you actually you feel like you care and you love for, that's not your homie, that's the street.
Like I've been in the hood, I've seen guys at say I love you and love you that ain't love.
Speaker 1No, I don't do that.
I come.
Speaker 2I know about it.
Speaker 3So you know, I'm gonna treat it just like it's one of mine.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1The fact that's how I move.
So, yo, what's next for zoo man?
What's the next move?
Speaker 3I want to do someone, I want to do something of course, film, you know, and I've been writing.
Of course, I've been writing, you know.
Speaker 1And I.
Speaker 3Just shot another movie and accompliss accomplish and that was a sag joint.
So you know, I'm trying to get my feetbackack.
And there I ran into a few guys and it was like things that just really got to get rectified on the business end, because it's it's business.
It's unfinished business that nobody's talking about, acting like it doesn't exist, and it's it's and it shows up.
Speaker 1That's a fact.
Speaker 3So that's why I was talking to the guys.
It's not that you ain't gonta worry about me on that.
And you see what I'm saying, And that's what the problem is.
And then we just gotta be able to talk and hash things out and and say, hey, man.
Speaker 2I was I was out of order at that for that.
Speaker 1That's right, I was wrong, and all.
Speaker 3Right, now we can move forward because that part of it ain't always about that money.
Speaker 2Like you said, it's respect level too.
Speaker 1Who you feel like you want to have this conversations with that's upt.
Speaker 3Some of the guys and the gang.
You know what I'm saying, Oh free who else?
Who else need to have this conversation?
Uh?
Speaker 1Dame?
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying, Dame for for sure.
Uh all those guys.
Speaker 1So at the end of the day, they owe you that, you know, they owe you that.
Speaker 3Everybody.
So it's like me and Big Homer, we catch up, you know what I'm saying, because that's my big dog.
Speaker 1But you know I would love to.
Speaker 2See Big Homie just to say what up?
Yeah?
Speaker 1Yeah, but you you you said you wanted to have a conversation, like certain things need to be rectified, like that ship.
If it's something need to be rectified with a whole week, let's pull.
Speaker 2Up right right right, But yeah, that's but that's what he did for me.
Speaker 1I'm fucking yeah.
So it's like I like the business, so it's like hey man, you know, hey, how you doing?
That's right?
Yeah?
Right?
But definitely like all the brosnah free oh Dame right, niggas should never be a time that you feel like you need to have a conbo and you can't have a convo with the bros.
Niggas gott to pick up the phone.
I heard.
I've seen Dame say a kind say something that you know a lot of people wasn't picking up the phone for him.
Only person picked up the phone was bleak.
And same thing with Oschino oh going through what he going through, the gods going what they going through.
But niggas know when they hit bleak line bleak like this, you know what I mean?
And that's what everybody because I feel like if niggas got anything they want to get off their chest.
To me, I'm a man first, man.
All that other shit is secondary.
Man, Like we're gonna holler because at one point in my life, I consider all your niggas my brothers.
Like that came from my mother.
Speaker 3See yeah, you hear it.
Speaker 1You know what I mean.
The spirits is selling them.
You gotta.
Speaker 3But that's all it is, and that's what it is with us, you know what I'm saying.
And that's the problem.
Yeah, man, this is we, like you said, nobody robbing nobody.
Man, So if I have put that crap, yo, you ran the native trying to chase the dag.
Speaker 1That's that was my conversation.
You know.
I had that talk when I had to sit down before with Cam.
I'm like your Cam or some g ship, if you really put down what we went through in this business, right, nobody got slapped, nobody got shot, nobody died, nobody kicked nobody, nobody dog, nobody kid got slapped.
So you know what happened.
We just had an argument over beats right right.
It was like, you know, I ain't never think about it like that, right.
Speaker 2Because like Nigga's like business.
Speaker 3It's like we know people on top and we know what we're doing, but it's like we all instrumental in it.
And that's all we wanted to be recognized for who we are getting off fishing, that's.
Speaker 1Right, man.
And you, like I said, Zoo, you're a major part of the Rockefeller You're a major part to your community and my life doing yeah, man, all of all of my life.
So that was that's another part.
Speaker 3So that's what they going wrong with me because it's gonna always be a serious situation because I took a tax because when I'm running around telling God, hey, y'all playing with it.
It changed my life.
Speaker 2It taged everything, It tast my whole world, helped me feed my kids, pick me up.
Speaker 1One thing I would say to you, saying, you writing like a lot of shows, a lot of movies, should you should you should write a movie about your life.
Speaker 2That's what baby Boy really about.
Speaker 1Man.
I'm gonna ask because you've been doing a lot saying a lot.
You've been around a lot like you know you you make legendary moves, man, And that's what this show is about because everybody.
Speaker 2Get it done without the team.
Speaker 3I got it.
Speaker 1We hear, bro.
Speaker 3That started with us and all bro you calling me from different places and I'm like.
Speaker 1You see you hit my line.
Bro, I'm whatever zoom like, I'm always on deck.
So anything you need from me, my team we here.
We got you, bro.
Speaker 3That's what let's get to it.
Speaker 1Let's get to it.
Then right here, let's get to I need my.
Speaker 3Got new warehouses.
Speaker 1Listen and we folk.
Let it be know.
I got say at your don't you got our own customer service.
Speaker 3Let's get into the business.
Speaker 1Man, I got you zoom man, anything man, anything anytime you ever want to come, you know, if you got anything to promote anything you any word you feel like niggas ain't understanding.
You want to get your word off.
You want to tell about your community, giveaways, your activision like your movie, drop anything, bro.
My platform is your platform.
My house is your house.
You're my brother and I love you for life.
You know that, my nigga zoom man, you know what it is?
Tell them man, where they can find you at.
Speaker 3Zoom You can find me at rock Salid Hollow.
That's right when I'm at.
Speaker 1No man, it's so shoes my Yeah, you ain't none of that plug now.
Speaker 3But the real Millio Sparks on Instagram, y'all.
A Million Sparks Foundation dot org is the website.
You can google it do all that kind of stuff.
And of course I'm on Facebook, Twitter and all that kind of stuff and Million Sparks and that's where you.
Speaker 1Can find me.
At It's right, a million sparks, the young gun.
You know what it is, man, It's rock Solidland.
Do say my fear.
That's right, my fucking outside nigga, Rockland, forever life nigga.
Yeah.
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