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Beanie Sigel | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

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Speaker 1

What up, y'all.

Speaker 2

This is your main man, Memphis Bleak right here.

Speaker 3

Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and The Black Effect Network in partnership with my gods over at Drink Champs Big with the year Memphis come back at it, niggas.

Speaker 4

Notice the difference chips more prone present, no stones.

Speaker 3

Yeah, y'all you already know what it is.

Speaker 4

Yours truly back with another one exclusive rock Solid podcast.

Like I told you when you see people sitting at this desk and mean two things.

One they my brother, two they Solid And this man right here to the left of me, Man, I didn't even know bro.

Speaker 3

Like brothers, fucking cousins.

We we drew, we we enemies.

We brothers, we cousins, We family.

That's all that matters.

Speaker 4

And I wouldn't be who I am today if we never signed you the fucking Rockefeller.

Speaker 3

Appreciate you know what I'm saying.

Welcome Meanie Siegel to the mother fucking building.

You know what I'm You know what it is, rock Solid, My brother?

How you been man?

Speaker 1

Great man?

Speaker 2

Great y'all Before we kick it off, you know I ain't seen you since.

Speaker 1

The art of dialogue bullshit.

Speaker 3

Like so you know, I'm a good nigga and I love my brothers, So I know how the internet spinshit and chop shit up and make it seem like it ain't what it is.

Speaker 4

And this is that and you.

So when I spoke to you and you said, Yo, bleek, you come on, man, my brother.

You know I would never go at your neck like that, bro, I was.

Speaker 3

I was kind of relieved because I thought, damn, why would seek shoot at me?

Speaker 1

So clear that up because we ain't get a chance clear that up.

For one.

Speaker 3

I understand how you felt because I didn't you see the interview that dang di.

I never saw that until afterwards.

I'm like, yo, will bleak man.

And then when I said, I said, oh, ship, that's you was talking about the coming of age.

Speaker 1

Ship.

Speaker 4

But you know they're gonna put it to like it was everything, and I'm like, I'm like, it's no.

Speaker 3

I'm gonna I'm gonna clear that up because not just the coming to age, it was you met him and her what they said who I was referring to, so off camera we're just talking about, you know, writing versus, and I'm like, no, I felt this though on you meet him and her you got out on him.

I spake, yo, but that's crazy.

You don't remember that session, my gee.

Listen, you don't remember you and Jane did y'all verse the night before I came to the studio the next day.

Speaker 1

I wasn't there that you was.

Speaker 3

I remember what y'all played because y'all was working on that is it?

Was it Daddy's Home or what is it?

The slow so on that t T.

Speaker 1

Did, Oh Daddy, where You've been?

Speaker 4

Y'all was working on that, and y'all played you need Him and hump from me.

Remember, every record wasn't for everybody.

You don't remember me saying, Yo, how y'all niggas gonna give me a record after y'all murdered it.

Speaker 3

I gotta take this record home right now.

You don't remember that?

And I got word I left y'all niggas in the stool.

Well you know I was, and that I was indulging in you.

Speaker 1

I know.

Speaker 2

I know in your mind you're like, how for growth?

Speaker 3

It's all because of you?

Speaker 2

You bro?

Listen, Let's go back.

Speaker 4

Let's that's one when I first met you.

Speaker 3

Fucking where we was at right track?

Studio?

Speaker 1

Nah, what studio we were that right train.

Speaker 3

It was one of the first.

It was one of those spots in the city.

Speaker 1

We was at because that's.

Speaker 4

When Recipees real rolling, you know what I mean, Black Friday, That's when they brought you up to the stool.

Speaker 1

What studio that was the studio went.

Speaker 3

Hit Factory, No no Qua Quad Studio, Ward Studio, You and banging, Can yo meet?

We came on too, dirty body.

I'll never forget that because you was like, Yo, you rode up here on the d R and I'm like, yeah, you was like you wrote that ship over the bridge.

I'm like you, like, Yo, you're wiling, you wiling.

Speaker 2

I'll never forget that day.

Speaker 1

And we met.

We did cool Love.

Speaker 2

Well wait, that's what I'm about to get to.

Speaker 3

Hold on, hold on, hold on, chill, let me get here, because.

Speaker 4

Dick, we met you spit.

Sadik was like, Yo, ain't nobody in the studio.

Speaker 1

The fuck with my man?

Speaker 4

I put anything on him and you started spitting and I'm like, alright, cool whatever, Sun super nice but whatever.

Jay was like, Yo, I got this record, y'all should do a record together, and.

Speaker 3

He had to hook on it.

Speaker 1

Yo's crew love.

Speaker 2

Remember we did cool Love.

This is my thing.

Speaker 3

If you thought Jay helped me for you, you meet him and huh I needed help for that niggergas?

Why the fuck you can't no hold on?

Before we did Kolo, we did a thousand bars first, right, we did a thousand bars first.

I didn't Yo, like.

Speaker 4

You violated on that too?

Why are you you taught me put a verse on that?

Because you smoked it?

He was like, yo, am, come on, put a verse on it.

Speaker 3

I'm like, hi, after you done with like sixty two on their murdering.

Speaker 1

I ain't not to count bars?

Speaker 3

No, Yo, No, ain't count yo.

Remember taught us?

I remember Jay trimming uh with the kulab love trim it down because he was like, no, that's too bar.

I'm like, just I don't know do that ship?

Yo?

You know yo, you probably don't remember this.

You know who taught you?

How to who you first act?

Speaker 1

Yo?

Speaker 2

How you count the bars and break it down?

Speaker 1

You and and John?

Speaker 3

That's right?

We was And I was thinking like, Yo, how y'all niggas be breaking down the bar and know where you at?

Speaker 1

Like that?

Speaker 3

None of those word none of my nigga crew love thousand bars, even the joint on Foxy.

Speaker 4

Album ain't not counting.

But I used to always them.

I'm just telling you them records.

I used to feel like, what the fuck is this nigga eating?

The fuck is this nigga smoking?

Speaker 3

I sell drugs, I carry guns, like my ship ain't coming out like that?

Speaker 2

Like what the I gotta go get the shoot out of something like what happic?

Speaker 3

Like, Yo, I'm telling you it's all your foot on me because I used to go home and be hating on you, like this nigga too nice?

How fuck this nigga took kids?

You on my turfet?

Nah, he wasn't til who won?

Speaker 2

What bro Yes, When I got my confidence.

Speaker 1

I heard that, I knew.

I'm like when I heard that, I heard that beat, I said, no, man bleak killing me.

I remember I got something.

Speaker 3

Like, Yo, we gotta go line for line.

I'm like, all right, that's what I felt.

That's the first record we did that.

I felt like, alright, cool, I'm on some level now he ain't just embarrassing.

And they go on the record and yeah.

Speaker 4

Now, but you smoked me on that to four o'clive six and Eggs, Yellow Boat Orange Bow Jackson, New York, making it.

Speaker 3

Like come on, God, chill out.

Speaker 1

Remember this, I had to make that rap real.

Speaker 2

Yeah yo, yo, chill forgot about that.

Yeah, we all flushed at this.

Speaker 4

Not leave the projects until he go four five six no buy, no boy, And he wasn't even gambling against nobody, Like nah, am no, my raps is real.

Speaker 3

We're not leaving it a.

Speaker 1

Little marshy projects.

We got some dice.

Speaker 3

I'm I mean we was out there for like frank you out wow, not rolling four nigga like that.

Speaker 4

I'm like, yo, just put the ship on four five six take the picture lesson, No nigga like nah, I got a rolling em It.

Speaker 2

Gotta be real, yo, that's crazy.

Speaker 4

Like I took you the more I remember the first time you took me to South Philly.

Speaker 3

Oh shit, no, first time you take me to No.

Speaker 1

No, no, no.

Speaker 3

This is the time I come to South Philly a nigga like, no, em ship rail out here.

We can't just be moving the round like this.

I need one and you need one and you gave me.

Listen, nigga gave me a gun.

Speaker 4

You now when you a project nigga, a hood nigga, I don't care where you from.

Speaker 1

You remember what I gave you?

Speaker 2

Certain guns.

Speaker 3

You just know.

Wait, I ain't never seen one of these.

Speaker 2

This is nice.

Speaker 3

I need one of these back home, my nigga, you gave me a baby?

Why a baby?

Speaker 2

Why with the extended clip?

Speaker 4

I had this ship in my jacket, like, oh, I'm really in these Philly streets.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it was going down at that time.

Speaker 4

As a fact, broo, what was it like for you coming out of Philly signing to Rockefeller though?

Speaker 1

What was your mindset back there?

Oh?

Man, it was it was.

It was different.

Speaker 3

I couldn't believe it like I ain't because I didn't want to be a rapper like i't in no demo.

Speaker 1

I wasn't trying to be a rapper.

You know.

I knew how to rap.

Speaker 3

Shout out to rest in peace to my man right easy, he he.

He really showed me how to like stay on song subject.

But then he was trying to teach me how to you know, No, this is a bar.

You gotta count it like this, And I wasn't trying.

Speaker 1

I'm I'm just.

Speaker 3

Gonna right, yeah, yeah, I have a way come out and come out like but it's crazy because I was trying, and I said this story a thousand times.

I was going to try and go to a dog fight, like I was trying to go to a dog No, I was my man.

Speaker 1

Murdered.

Mill had a dog named Mike shut the murder.

Murder.

He had a dog named Mike.

Speaker 3

Mikey was a grand chet killing everything.

So allegedly, I had just got I had just got some work, uh from somebody, and I just got done.

I had all the money in my pocket and I'm like, damn.

Speaker 1

Murder.

Mill called me, was like, yo, I want you want to go battle these boys?

Uh?

Speaker 3

They want the battles taint grand.

I'm like, all right, bet, so we go the battle of these guys.

So happened to be it was Philly most wanted for his most wanted.

So we went to the crib to battle Whimen battle them.

They managers wasn't there, so we ain't battle for the money.

We wound up rapping basketball and me shut out the Bubonik.

Speaker 2

Shout out.

Speaker 3

Men.

After it was done, we exchanged numbers and so Murder was like, no, we're gonna battle money.

So we battled for ten grand.

I'll pull out my money.

He put out his money.

Buboni kicked Murder on us.

The niggas they ain't had the money.

But he went upstairs and came back downstairs with five contracts.

Speaker 1

From different labels.

Speaker 3

One of them was for like a man dollars.

One of them was like five hundred.

He was like that ain't no money.

Speaker 1

Drop the contracts on the table.

Speaker 2

It was like, damn the battle for the contract.

Speaker 3

No, he just was showing us like nigga, y'all talking about ten grand, this couple million.

Right, he had contracts.

So we wind up battling.

I don't even I ain't even gonna call it the battle.

Speaker 1

We wind up rapping.

At the end of the day, we exchanged numbers.

Speaker 3

He pulled me to the side.

I was like, yo, nice.

He was like, yo, my managers and came home.

They be back in a couple of days.

We got a meeting with Rock and Fellow Records.

I want you to come with it.

So I'm like, all right back.

So they managers came back.

I got the phone call.

I went up to their cred where they was at, and he was like, yo, this they was telling you all about it.

Nice, So we just rapping right.

We started rapping it.

They went crazy as like, yo, you gonna come to New York with us and a couple of days, we got a meeting.

Speaker 1

You gonna take you with us, But I'm like, all right, bet I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3

But then a dog fight was hunting, so Mikey had a fight that day, and I'm like, damn.

Speaker 1

Do I pay my tab or do I bet on Mikey?

Or do I go to New York?

Speaker 3

I said, fuck that about No, I was duck in New York.

Yo, I'm gonna put this yad.

Speaker 1

I was trying to duck New York.

Speaker 3

I had fifteen grand I knew I was gonna double that up.

I knew ain't nobody beating Mikey.

So I'm in the crab.

They calling me.

They're like, yo ready.

I'm like yeah, I'm ready.

I'm speeding to get dressed.

I'm about to be out.

Turned turned the phone off so they can't call me.

I'm hard assing.

I get out the curb out.

Lived in an apartment.

But as soon as I get downstairs in the floor, it's world rolling.

The pickup truck ain't waiting for me outside.

Subscraped, so I had to go.

You're like, da subscribed, Damn, Luke, this called you five time?

Speaker 1

You ready?

I'm like, yeah, I'm ready.

Come on we out.

In my mind, I'm like fuck, Like damn, that's fifteen grand at.

Speaker 3

That time, I'm like, fuck, you had that serious paper.

So I get in the car.

I'm dressed for the dog fighting everything.

I got a dog Tims because I know it's she's gonna get dirty real roller.

Speaker 1

Getting the truck.

Speaker 3

Roller was like, you know we're gonna make it stop first, Fluke, we ain't going up there like that.

Speaker 1

I gotta get some feet, yo, that's ships out.

Speaker 2

He moving like that.

Speaker 3

I can't go up like that.

I got I gotta get you some feet.

So we wind up going to leaves, grab some sneeze.

We took that trick, old Rod.

Speaker 1

I'm sorty calling.

Speaker 3

By the time we hit the tongue over Mikey won bess my dang, I go do the go do the meeting, go out there.

Speaker 1

I wasn't supposed to rap.

Speaker 3

I just was just just gone, yeah, just bonic in the bonic didin't go that day.

Speaker 1

He ain't show up.

It was just miss uh mister and nas.

So they battle the walls.

It was over.

I'm sitting in the back.

Speaker 3

I'm smoking the way, pissed off because I missed out on the dog fight.

Speaker 1

Then one of the guys they was rapping with.

Speaker 3

He said slick ship.

Like I guess they knew we was coming.

So he says, slick Philly shit.

Bout some cheese steak shit.

So Jay was doing It's All Good a week ago with too Short.

So I'm sitting in the back.

So Ja was like, that's it.

Ain't nobody else rapping.

I was like, fuck it, I rap, I raped after I rap, ain't nobody rapping more?

Speaker 1

And Jay was like, that's it.

I looked, ain't nobody rapping again?

Speaker 3

I went in again and he asked him again.

He was like it's over.

But Jay had to face.

He was sitting back and I'm like, I know I'm killing this shit.

Speaker 1

I'm like hey, I'm like, man, I ain't rapping no more.

So Jay was like that's it.

So I went why I was there?

Speaker 3

So why?

I started cursing out the balls that was from New York and He's like, y'all, at these niggas come up here, y'all ain't gonna rap.

So I was like, Yo, put that bead on.

Y'all just was rapping too.

Back then it was the roller real, so he put that joint on and I racked to that ship, stop set back rolled my l Then Jay got up.

He ain't say nothing to me.

Dang an't say nothing, bitch.

They all went in the hallway or wherever they went.

Yea shit deep roller and Stevie g damn stey word.

So when they came back, and I'm pissed because I'm like, I know I'm smoking this ship, but Ja had the poker face on.

So I'm like, man, I don't give a fucking up my meeting himyway.

So as we leaving, shaking everybody hand.

I remember my hiking j hand.

He ain't let my hand got It's like, I'm gonna be hollering at you.

Playboy's like all right.

Then we went in the hallway.

When we got on the elevator, everybody went crazy.

Yo, they don't want you to leave, nigga.

Speaker 1

I got to go and I was like, Oh, we're gonna get a hotel room.

Speaker 3

Jay want you to stink, nigga.

I just gave Poco fifteen hundred packs.

Shot out Poco my nigga this Friday.

And I remember it was a frid that I just lost out on fifteen grands, won a dog fight.

I just gave Poco fifteen hundred pack.

He or me a stack.

I got to go, I'm not staying up here.

They begging me to stay in New York.

Like, Bro, take me to the train.

I'm out.

Speaker 1

We left two day Dad.

Speaker 3

It was like, we gotta go back to New York's right, went back up rapping, jaying them again at the office.

It was on from there, Yo, Bro, Everything just happened so fast, because I felt like you came up, you rapped like you said, you came back and you were signed.

And then we went on We did Crew Love thousand bars for Clue, and then we went on The Hard Night Life to It thousand bards the Clue.

Speaker 2

After we were on tour, I think we was on Hard Knocked Life.

Speaker 3

Already and we came home and you did that because remember I wasn't supposed to be on the record, and you was like, Yo, now we need to put me on this record because remember I think.

Speaker 1

That was before we left.

Speaker 3

Think so yeah, because you know my timeline, Bro, Yeah, I think that was yep, yeah, I think that was before.

That's what I remember.

Jay was like, Yo, you gotta stop rapping too long.

That's too long.

Speaker 1

I'm like man, I don't know why to do that ship yo, But my.

Speaker 3

Nigga, you you.

I feel like you pioneered and change the game, not only for Philadelphia but for new artists.

Because think about this, right, I always this is my personal opinion.

Speaker 4

I never said nothing to you on tour, my nigga, think about it.

Everybody on tour and a hard knocked life.

Joab Rule he winging to come out.

Can I get her?

Speaker 3

They take your shirt off, they going crazy.

Yeah, I'm waiting to come out.

It's all right.

Speaker 2

They know Jay, they barely know me, but I get a little bit of love.

Speaker 4

And you was coming down, no song, no beat, acapella and destroying shit.

Speaker 3

Like my nigga, how did that feel?

Speaker 1

Just knowing?

Speaker 2

Did you know in your mind?

Like da these nigga, I'm shine every.

Speaker 1

Night, nigga.

Speaker 3

After the Fride, the second show, second, the third show, the first joint, Scared to Death pushed me to thirty thousand people in Areader.

It's a fact, doctors, your hardist Beingie Sella, you come out, come out acapella and they went crazy every night.

Bro, And I remember the third, the second time, second show, I did it.

Then I wanted to switch it up.

Speaker 1

Jay was like, nah, do the same joint, and I did it.

Speaker 3

But the third night when I was coming out, when Medi, it was like, oh worry, I look and I seen red Man math Man.

Speaker 1

I've seen X.

Speaker 3

Standing on the side where and it was like, Yo, these niggas winning and see me do this.

I can polish shit right.

I'm like, oh shit, it's on.

Speaker 1

I want hell.

Yeah.

I was like he was on.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you got one my nigga, like you came to Rockefeller, my nigga.

Like remember I was the first artist.

It was me, Sauce jazz O, then the Wonds in Rough, No, the Rangers wasn't wasn't there yet.

It was Diamonds in the Rough uh and rap Yeah.

Speaker 4

And then all of a sudden, everybody just started dropping dropping.

Nobody was around no more did it comes Segul.

Speaker 3

First it was me.

I was that nigga.

It's like in high school, that nigga on campus.

Then a new fly nigga come through, all the bitches looking at him, man like yo, who this nigga think he is in my can't my set?

Speaker 2

Like That's how it was for me.

Speaker 4

And then one nigga, when I heard you, I was like, yeah, I gotta go to the gym and workout.

I can't just fight this nigga.

Speaker 3

These niggas got last Dragon skills over me.

I can't just fight these niggas.

Yeah, like yo, and you know what else?

I taught you how to play seatling.

You ain't really know how to play seat on the hard now, Yo.

That money was rotating in the back of that bus.

Every other day, another nigga was rich like about that.

Every other day somebody else was rich.

One day, beans got all the money.

Yeah, I won twenty grand last night.

Tomorrow jall won all that shit.

The next day I got it, yo.

Speaker 2

That money was rotating pockets or every day.

Speaker 4

But yo, bro, you know on that tour, I didn't understand the little Kim line until the hard not life.

Tall niggas can't eat without padem.

Yeah, but we was lying enough for that p deem.

Your's predeemed day.

Speaker 3

Niggas like if we up my name when out last straight up bring that?

Speaker 1

What was we here?

Speaker 3

Like, we's getting like almost like five hundred about to say it was something?

Speaker 2

Yeah, we right, like five hundreds.

Speaker 3

I came off that tour with like sixty thousand world up all on dice yo and something else.

Speaker 4

Yo, you was killing the dice.

I ain't gonna front because you and Jay and Noll y'all used to gamble too.

Speaker 3

Like he came out.

Speaker 1

He was burning me.

Speaker 3

So look because he I'm gonna get you.

So we had to remember Harry Day.

We had the landing this but there was changing to sell.

So I used to go collect everybody joint.

So before the throwing, we do sound check.

We wasn't going back to the hotel.

At the sound check, man, he was outside selling backstage landing Yill Yo, chill, y'all niggas was outside hustling or the tour brown, I love it.

I ran into a nigga.

Years later, I do a show, so a nigga came up to He was like, Yo, what's up?

Speaker 1

Now?

I'm out now.

He was like, you don't remember me?

He's like, nah, what's up?

He's like, you don't remember on Hard Knocked Life tour?

You sold me them faith.

Speaker 2

Yo?

Speaker 1

Yeah, said you show me them faith backstage passes.

I'm gonna remind us.

Speaker 3

I got rock with you, I said, man, who you with?

It's like me and three of my owns.

Come on, y'all getting them with me.

Y'all, I'm gona remind you of son you probably forgot.

You know, we got a Rockefeller nigga down with us running around that you initiated back in the days.

Speaker 1

You remember in the Lima.

Speaker 3

You told him.

He was like, Yo, I do anything to be down.

I'm not gonna say what city because nigga might come looking for us.

But it was like, Yo, I do anything to be down with Rockefeller and he was like, word anything.

You was like, let me stab you in your leg?

Speaker 2

This you don't remember what I said?

Speaker 3

And the nigga was like, Dad, he was like, I don't remember.

I don't remember.

I remember a lot.

Speaker 1

I said a lot of ship.

I don't remember that.

Speaker 3

Yo.

Know he was on some ship, my nigga.

He was on some ship where you came around.

Speaker 4

It definitely took the gig used to him like this nigga differently stabbed a nigga nigga every every time you used to go to I can't say the city.

Every time we used to pop up in this city, Homie used to be there like, Yo, I'm damn, what do you say?

Remember you stabbed me?

To this day, I see Homie bro to this day, he Rockefeller for Life, Rock, Sally Waite, Nigga.

Speaker 1

My bad, Yo.

Speaker 2

They say I'm the first y n Yo, he was on some ship back then.

Speaker 4

But like being like it was a lot of artists that came out of IM gonna say a lot of artists.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you was like one of the main artists to come out of Philly to really put Philadelphia.

Speaker 1

On the map.

Speaker 4

Like you, it was at a point where you had then there everybody was under you.

I met Phillies most wanted through you.

I met dutcha stage through you.

I met the whole state prop through you.

Like everybody was under you at one point?

Was that your mindset?

Like, Yo, I'm gonna put Philly on and I'm I'm I'm.

Speaker 3

A sugar Knight, Like not even sug Knight, doctor Drader ship, that's a better analogy.

Speaker 1

I mean that was that was.

Speaker 3

That was the mindset from the rip.

Like I didn't even hate my contract.

Speaker 1

Yet I bought the figures up there free everybody, y'all.

Speaker 3

I just want to be a figure, yo, Chill you wanted to be major your whole ship.

Not even Matt J metchall.

I remember we had a detailed shot twelve to twenty from War and the Figures used.

Speaker 1

To come down.

Speaker 3

They was the nicest niggas in the city.

Like to me back then, they was on.

You couldn't they was signed.

They had a deal in my eyes, like they had a mixtape floated and if you was in the city and you listened to rap and you was Figures, was it?

So when I met them and I rapped with them like I was on, they used to come down.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I used to want to be a figure, like.

Speaker 3

A crazy learning some sh today nigga ain't that I used.

Speaker 1

To want to be.

Speaker 3

And it's so crazy because all this ship was happening within Like I'm gonna say a too much span like meet and the Figures rapping for them, then I'm coming down.

Speaker 1

Then.

Speaker 3

My young me and me used to UH Mason Can performed at this spot we had called Bobby Dances, So allegedly.

Speaker 1

We had what they called bandos.

Speaker 3

We had like five band neules, so all the bros they would go out on these trips.

I would never go because I get to ulilize all the bandids to the wind.

Speaker 1

So I talked my younger not to go.

We wound up going to UH Dances.

Speaker 3

They had a rap battle help so whenever the prize is, I forget what the prize money was, but we had that on us.

I think me and me and we had crazy money on us.

So I'm like, whether win out the battle, I want to battle on for the prize.

But I think the prize money I was like five anywhere between five ten thousand, whoever won, so.

Speaker 1

They picked the winner, we put out the money.

Speaker 3

I want to battle whether win.

I said, I bad a you for that, So I wound up getting on stage battle.

It went for me battle one person.

They're like five six niggas.

Speaker 1

They didn't want to get that bread out, so I'm bad on him.

So then there's I see another nigga had all out.

He's snapping.

Speaker 3

I'm like, all right, you can get it too, pull him on the stage.

So I'm thinking I'm about to go at it with him.

He stood right next to me.

He started going at them niggas.

Speaker 1

That was Freeway.

Speaker 3

No fucking wat how I met Free.

Speaker 1

So I'm bad on these five niggas.

Speaker 3

I pulled Free I ain't I ain't even knowing.

I'm thinking he trying to get at me.

Pull him on stage.

That niggas stand next to me started killing them niggers.

Speaker 1

That was Freeway Fether.

Speaker 3

I get on, Yo, we're gonna change numbers.

I'm gonna get with you.

And within two weeks time, that's when I'm at most.

One that went up in New York Rockefeller came.

Speaker 1

Back called Free.

He pulled up on a block.

I'm like, Yo, what's on they talking about?

They gonna sign me?

Speaker 3

You gotta come up with And that's how I met Free, and that's how I free got came up to the rock.

Speaker 1

And that's crazy.

Speaker 2

I ain't know that, man.

Speaker 4

I always when I interviewed went I because you know, of course I had gunner up here.

I had no clue that all of y'all were from different hoods.

Speaker 1

When you look at state property, that's the entire city.

Speaker 3

I'm from South Philly, Free from North You got P D and O and Plans No West West, and you got Chris Neve Nicetown.

Speaker 1

But that's Uptown.

That's the city.

That's crazy.

That's dope, man.

Speaker 3

Like the city Like when they speak, you can't talk of Philly hip hop without mentioning Beanie siegu and state property.

Speaker 1

Yeah, like I know, Like, how does that make you feel.

Speaker 3

To know like no matter what man like you mean history you put on for the city and it's see many like it's just like the bell, my nigga.

You cracked the city like like the bell, my nigga.

Like that gotta make you feel like I did my job, nigga, it.

Speaker 1

Is what it is.

Speaker 3

I don't yo, they tell me every day, I don't know who I am.

I'm a roguler.

Anybody will know?

Mean you could you liable to see me in Walmart tomorrow target shot?

Speaker 1

Right?

Speaker 3

But that's that's how we grew up in our time.

Member bro, Remember on the hall now we ain't know no niggas out of town to call it no.

Speaker 2

Remember how we used to go get the weed.

Speaker 1

We used to go for it.

Speaker 3

We used to go to the mall and look for a nigga who looked like us and run dawn fair with up.

Whatout yo?

Speaker 1

What up you got that?

Speaker 3

Niggas be like, yeah, we'll stay now.

Speaker 1

I'm mytel are still a turtle top, Yo.

Take me to the nearest project, yo.

Shout out to my shottown niggas.

Speaker 4

Yo, I've been through to this ship on the road with you brough and a lot of shit.

You probably don't remember.

Listen, I'm gonna tell you too.

Let's see if you remember these two incidents.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 4

You had to show in Bosston one time, you like, yo, m I got to show and bossed at what you're doing.

Speaker 2

I'm like, I ain't doing shit.

You're like, yo, pull up this when?

Speaker 3

Who want what?

Speaker 2

Just came out?

Like em you gotta pop out, gotta pop out with me.

Speaker 3

I'm like, all right, i'mna pull up.

Speaker 1

I'm pull up.

Speaker 3

There's no problem.

Just let me know the time whatever.

Speaker 2

I meet you at the show, like yo, bleak, don't come out too the intro or who want what?

Speaker 1

Come on?

I don't want people to know you here.

Speaker 2

I'm like, all cool, my nigga, who want what?

Speaker 1

Drop?

Speaker 3

I come out?

Speaker 2

The crowd went so crazy.

Ya't remember?

They rushed the stage.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and my man pull out the gun beings on the front of the stage like this, Yo, what's something these niggas trying to rush us.

Speaker 1

I'm like, yo, see.

Speaker 3

Chill, they love us.

You want to kill the fans?

My nigga like Yo, I don't remember that, y'a.

I'm looking at this.

Speaker 2

Nigga like, yo, chill.

Speaker 4

Then another incident, I think we was in Connecticut because we was up north somewhere.

Speaker 1

It was your birthday.

We was up north somewhere and the girl.

Speaker 3

I'll never forget this nigga like I never forget my kid's name.

Shorty name was Bullet.

She had the bullets tattooed on her neck.

Speaker 1

She lives on a meet and greet like, Yo.

Speaker 4

I'm a beanie seagull Fan's your birthday.

I loved I brought you a gift, so.

Speaker 3

You know me.

Speaker 2

We all see this side of the autographs.

Speaker 3

I'm over here like I brought you a gift.

Speaker 1

What she bought him?

Let me see.

Speaker 4

She get this nigga a box so brand new three eighty and I'm looking at this bitch like, bitch, you ain't like me.

Speaker 3

You don't like me too.

That was the ill ship the world up, bro, we have me.

She bought me a gun brand new and the box was like this for you.

Speaker 1

I'm looking out, oh.

Speaker 2

Ship the fucks straight up?

Speaker 1

Yeah, like man gap shout out the bullet.

Speaker 3

You remember, I'm gonna tell you another incident.

You remember the time we was in La and she'll try to run down on niggas.

Remember he was in front of the club niggas like, yo, she'll coming through.

And he pulled up with all the niggas.

Speaker 1

Ship right here.

Speaker 4

Used to have all the slammers all the time, and you would never know.

You'd just be like whatever we went the ship whatever it beams like, nah, I am telling niggas pull up.

He was in front of the club in l A.

Niggas like, She'll say, coming through.

You wanna highlight niggas.

So mad nigg was leaving member He's like, man, fuck that, tell.

Speaker 2

That nigga pull up.

We here, it don't matter.

Speaker 3

Pull up.

I'm like, all right, cool what we I'm like beings just only us.

Speaker 4

What we're gonna do that nigga like, nah am, I got that joint pulled out the same baby why from Philly in La.

Speaker 3

But listen this post nine eleven, Yeah, here to break the Jones down.

I was about to get to that till I was about to get to that because that was another thing we on tur right.

Speaker 4

I'm a project baby to the death.

We get to the airport, we got a gun, were throwing the gun away.

We buy another one in the next state.

I tell one of my man's get on the highway, dry that up.

Speaker 3

Not my man.

My man, like, what give me the gun.

I'm gonna break of the party.

You hold this, you hold that, you take this part.

We ain't fly with the bullets though, Mamber.

We left the bullets.

Nigga took.

Put every piece of the gun in different bags.

We checked our bag post nine eleven.

It's pre nine eleven.

We land in Miami.

My man put the gun back together.

Yo, were good.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Yo.

Speaker 3

If we're back and I'm met a couple of niggas out, there's this we y'all got with people?

Speaker 1

They take that checking in, we checking, We tapped, We tapped in.

That's a thing.

Speaker 3

It's a big difference every time.

You know, we on our way, that's right.

Niggas to be waiting at the hotel situations, that's right.

Speaker 2

Situate you get them things.

Speaker 1

It's a difference between checking in and Tampa.

Speaker 3

See checking we got the tappan.

You got whatever you at.

Checking is because I think you soft and you get protection.

Tapping in.

Niggas gonna give you that pistol.

How of these niggas don't want the pistol.

They want the road, Like the homie here, you hold it, and that's why they gotta pay.

Speaker 1

I used to.

Speaker 3

I used to leave at straight.

Yo.

Speaker 1

We left many guns on the rock.

Speaker 3

We got clipped from a toy bus company because you and me left for Gus.

Speaker 1

On the bus.

Speaker 2

Them niggas like we never given the bus the rocke.

Speaker 1

My nigga.

Speaker 4

Then like that happened all of that tour life, my nigga, Like then, my gu let's speed up to I want to get.

Speaker 2

To state property.

Let's speed Let's bring state property.

Speaker 3

Because you had Owen Sparks, p d Krack Freeway, Chris and Neve and y'all motherfuckers just took over about Force, the movie, the albums, the clothes, like I watched it.

Speaker 4

So I just want to know for the people that don't know, what was your mindset?

Just all that ship happened, because it happening so fast.

Speaker 3

Bro, I just was watching what was going on.

Jay they did Rocket Rocker were yup.

It's like, yo, I wanna do state property glue yup.

So I just was presenting any idea that I had.

I just presented it the movies, like just presented it.

Speaker 1

Yo.

We should be doing this, we should be doing this.

That's a fact.

Speaker 2

It just happened like and we was always close.

I remember when you got the ben leads.

Speaker 3

I remember when beings well both bed leads.

Nigga called me your y'all just heard Jay about to get rid of his Bentley.

You should call him and tell him give it to you.

Speaker 1

It's like, what, yeah, you talking how to that I could have had that joint?

Speaker 3

Couldn't get three yup, he was gonna get three.

I'm like, nah, you don't need all three bets.

Speaker 1

But this hot.

Speaker 3

But to tell you the story on how I got it.

So the blue bet this how I got it.

I ain't cash out one of them joints.

So Dame had the blue one.

Remember big book at the Brown Joint.

I forget what showing we are, But everybody was backstage and a rom you know it was we was the big was the big group.

Speaker 1

So we're in the apron.

So I go in the a ram so you know it's Jay and Dang Biggs.

Puff was back there.

Uh, Steve stout all the big wigs.

Speaker 3

So I think Puff was just talking cast ship and he was talking ship to Dang.

So Puff was saying something he couldn't find.

It's Bentley.

He was like, I don't know where I parked it.

He had the powder blue to zor cool, so it's that.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

He was like, yeah, I got the narsee Bigs just brought that.

And Puff was like, hold on, you got what.

He was like, I got the I got the Nars.

You got the four door?

He was like yeah.

Speaker 3

He said you drive your own Bentley, Yo, ship I remember that.

I swear rich beef.

He said, Papa, say you drive your own Bethley.

He was like, I can't even find mine, yo, I don't know where I parked it.

Speaker 5

And since that day.

Speaker 1

They ain't never driving no more.

He gave you the key, like, uh no, I ain't give it to me.

He just couldn't find me.

No.

He he stopped driving this now asked, but what you're doing with that?

Right?

Speaker 3

Get that?

Speaker 1

Like what you put down on that?

Let me get that, and he gave me the number.

Came up to the next day cashier's check here, let me get that.

Let me get that, and then I think we was going through.

Speaker 3

Uh.

Speaker 1

I think Jane Niles was going at it now went in on.

No.

I was like, man, Janet want me to.

Speaker 3

Biggas was like, giddy, Your Biggs always used to be the sightling, wasn't the back.

You you gag always pulled me to the side.

Get that, nigga, that's right.

So that's when we went up.

I did the the hot ninety seven shot high nine seven shit.

Speaker 1

Especial Delivery joint.

I remember it was my birthday.

I come up.

Jordie Bentley up there.

Speaker 3

So my mom was like, yo, I think my mom came up.

It was my birthday.

We're in the studio.

She laid it, I'll cook.

So all of them left, so I go downstairs.

Speaker 1

I'm like, come on, man, paku.

I go downstairs.

I'm looking for the car and it's not there.

I'm like, we're in my car.

Speaker 3

They was like, oh, your mom she left.

How she take the car?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Mom like motherfuck like, nah, your car downstairs.

Speaker 1

I'm like, it's not there.

I don't see it.

He was like, come downstairs, man.

So it's like you don't see it.

I said, no, I was parked right there.

Well your caring this one is parking.

Speaker 3

Gave the keys.

It's like, happy birthday.

Dang, that's how I got the brown one.

Speaker 1

Dang, that's how that went.

Speaker 2

That's fire.

Speaker 3

I ain't never know that, but I know we used to switch, Like you know what, I mean, I know.

We used to switch car.

We switched yeah a lot.

We used to switch cause I called Ben to be like, yo, shit hid in New York.

Let me hold the big real, quick take the bits on it.

He'd be like, yo, blink, we did some ship in the big.

Take the big.

Let me get the big bullshit.

We used to switch cars on the turnpike.

My nigga.

At least every six months, me and this nigga be meeting on the turnpike, switching the visa all the time.

My niggas crazy, like that's.

Speaker 4

The ship that I tell niggas all the time that if we had Instagram and we had social media like these kids today, it would have never been no.

Speaker 1

Nah, they'll be putting money on my books.

Ship.

Speaker 3

We know drivers quick yo, your rest of peace, my man.

Go, oh my god, y'all listen.

I remember g jumped out your car.

He was like, Yo, I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1

I quit.

Speaker 3

I'm not driving these niggas no more.

Speaker 1

It's more guns in this card than it is people.

Speaker 3

You know that nigga go.

Speaker 1

He used to come to my crib.

Speaker 3

He used to be like, yo, bleak, how the fuck you hanging with Beanie Ce.

Why why why do you always want to go to Philly and be with Beanie c Or he goes carry all the guns.

He got more guns than he know people like you are he do.

One day they're gonna pull his fucking hen over all of y'all gonna go to Jaim.

But you know what, we're not new I'm like, yo, Beans, don't give a fuck man.

This niggas really on some ship like he don't care.

Is when we had for some reason, a lot of shit happened in Boston.

We was coming from Boston.

Speaker 4

It was New Year's Eve, and you told Gordon, Yo, I want to be back in Philly before the ball drop.

If we don't make it to Philly before the ball drop, I'm slapping you and on my mother, y'all.

Speaker 3

Niggas was like at Axis six that they could go and call me this nigga Beans put hands on me.

I look at the clock, it's like twelve oh five.

That's crazy.

Speaker 1

He told them.

Speaker 3

If we ain't in Philly before the ball drop, I'm slapping you going.

Speaker 1

I don't remember that on some I pleased the fifth.

I pleased the fifth, y'all.

Speaker 2

He was on some ship back then.

Phil do you ever think back and look back and be like, what it like this?

Speaker 4

Do you have any regrets that you feel like, damn, man, I should have focused more on this and not been on that.

Speaker 1

I mean site you could look I look back.

Uh.

I didn't know I had a career.

It was a length to me, think about it, bleek.

I went from.

Speaker 3

Being on a block by nine ounces coat getting in front of nine ounces two months later being signed to Rockefeller Records, and think about it.

I was only Beanie Siegull on the streets for two years, my nigga, it seemed like it was a long time.

Speaker 1

But the truth and the reason and in between that we did the Dynasty.

I was booked.

I remember when you was going to turn yourself in.

Speaker 3

Like yeah, So I was only Beanie Sigul on the streets probably two and a half years.

Speaker 1

So I didn't have time to sit back and look like, all right, this is a career, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3

I was on it.

Speaker 1

I come from a block, whereas like fucking block, I come from Philly.

Speaker 3

Niggas, man, you gotta look over your shoulder with everybody.

Speaker 1

So it's just me.

Speaker 3

South Philly.

Anybody'll tell you that's from Philadelphia.

There's no reason for a North nigga, a southwest South, any part of the city to come to South Felk.

South Philly just got a fucked up name.

Speaker 6

I ain't know that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, so y'all like the East New Yoga Philly, Like, yeah, that's what I mean.

Yeah, Brownsville, Crown, Hey, I mean Kanasi they call that like the end of the niggas.

Don't care they killing they they still out people or whatever right now.

Speaker 1

So, and it was just me.

Speaker 3

I had Deacon Roller on the passed away then you know, Sadik, But it was just me by myself.

I had nobody that's from my town with me.

So I'm doing all this shit by myself.

And I'm used to you got me.

Yeah, you say you got me?

You got got me, that's right.

So that's how I'm right, right.

I didn't care about him, nothing else.

Speaker 4

But you had a lot of OG's around you because you used to bring up a lot of niggas from Philly.

And I remember, like one thing, I'm gonna always say, man, brother, your brother, news man, Yeah, your news From first day I met him to today, he's always been the same guy by his business about his family about his check, never for the nonsense.

Speaker 1

Then you had she with you too, man.

That's why I said one she she was that guy.

Speaker 4

Man that I felt like that niggas to keep all of us in check because he be telling you some shit.

Speaker 2

I'll be sitting there like, yeah, he fucking right, I ain't need to do that.

Speaker 3

Like, what's up with she?

Man?

Speaker 1

She good?

Speaker 2

Yeah, Man, I ain't seen him in man, that's what's up man.

Speaker 4

Like out of all of y'all, y'all always brought a lot of people up to New York from Philly, so I always felt.

Speaker 3

Like it was part of them with me.

It was different people though all the time, because that was me.

Like, man, people a chance to shine, get off the city, not even a shine, just to get away from what we used to you know what I'm saying, y'all.

Speaker 4

Definitely I ain't gonna front y'all used to always used to be like your bleak man were going on vacation.

Speaker 1

The city is.

Speaker 3

It's crazy right now.

Speaker 1

I don't even want to be out there.

Y'all.

Speaker 3

Got the crib in Manhattan, remember y'all was hey, Yo chis man, remembery going to this nigga crib?

In the city.

Speaker 4

This nigga would not walk around the crib.

Everything he did was on the segway.

It's when the segues first came out.

This nigga would go to the bathroom on the segway, go to get something to drake on the segway.

Speaker 3

Roll the blood on the segway.

Speaker 4

Yo am, He's sitting there just turning around doing three sixty M roll love m yoll play the beat bringing be back like yo, y'all niggas or a house arrest violent so like you know that's a big thing online with the jail ship and you coming home to hoole and they said, like, hole didn't take responsibility.

Speaker 3

Looking back, now, do you fought him for feeling that way?

Like if you take yourself out of that set out, out of being yourself in that situation and put yourself on the outside look at that, would you have made the same choice he made or do you think you would have made a difference?

Jokes, I'd have got my boy home, think so, yeah, I'd have got my boy home.

I don't I don't know how he felt because we never had that conversation, so I can't speak on how he felt.

I could just only speak on what I would have did if I.

Speaker 1

Had a chance to get any of my homies out of jail.

Speaker 3

I don't care what I would have had it did, but i'd have got him out.

Speaker 2

And how sight like you said looking back, he was reckless.

Speaker 3

See that's like putting that's like that's like me coach signing on the car or a nigga who don't got.

Speaker 1

A license or drive drunk all the time?

Would you do that?

I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 4

That's almost it's like, come on, bro, you had a life, like think about it when you came home from that time, right, because that was so that was the shooting at the club, right that case, what shooting?

Speaker 1

That's when the screen.

Speaker 4

You know what I'm saying, it's outside shooting, But I'm saying that was the shooting at the club with your first case when you got locked up when you went to the trout.

Speaker 1

Right.

So what was said is if we're allowed, yeah, you.

Speaker 3

Take responsibility for this span would you be responsible for his wearabouts?

Meaning would you give us all the documents that we need to know?

He's going to be in Saint Louis this day, he's going to be in Missouri.

Speaker 1

They just wanted to know where he'd be able to give up the touring sketch him.

See, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2

But my thing is, let me ask you a question.

What I was saying on now, let me.

Speaker 1

Finished answer that.

Speaker 3

So I couldn't look had my homie shackle ankle the wrist and look him in his face and say nah, Because let's say I Faouda came home and wild out and shot somebody.

Speaker 1

Nothing could have happened to Jack, but you did.

No, I did.

Speaker 3

You did shoot nobody, but you wild out?

Oh, bro, you went back to jail taxivation.

Speaker 1

No, No, this was that was after Rockelfeller breakup.

Bro.

Speaker 3

No, you got caught with a gun or some ill shit like that when you was being.

Speaker 1

On the run.

That's all the same case.

That's all the same.

Speaker 3

I had a state case for the gun, then I had it was the shoot the fads picked cooked up.

Speaker 1

No, I had a tempted murder in the state.

Yes, I had the gun and the fast at the same time.

Speaker 3

That was all one case.

Speaker 1

No, it was two different, two different cases.

Speaker 2

That's what I'm trying to tell you.

I remember I was there, my nigga.

Speaker 4

You didn't come home with wild nigga went on the high speed chase.

No no, no no, that's when you made the song with cam running listen.

I caught attempted murder, that's the first case, and I caught a gun case.

Both of those cases was in the state, both of them the fat I beat the gun case.

I still had to go to court for the tempted murder.

Speaker 1

The fans picked up the guncase.

Speaker 3

It's still is it was.

It was just run at the same time.

So when the fast picked it up, I went to the federal crowds the fans.

I was out on bell for the attempted murder.

I was trying to get bail for the gun showing that ask would you be responsible for us whereabouts?

Just like there's no where you're gonna be at towards schedule.

This got in the third same ship, you my brother, No new case, you my brother.

I'm gonna be all the way on this mea.

Speaker 1

Me in jail.

Speaker 3

You ain't ship.

Speaker 2

At least this nigga got shown.

Speaker 3

Man like yo, this nigga keep going through all this ship because you gotta think back.

But let's take it back.

What remember the incident in baseline cut.

Speaker 2

Remember that I don't.

Speaker 3

Want to get into detail, but all of that pals up to that.

Yeah, you gotta remember that.

Bro.

There's one thing that.

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying, what happened in baseline?

Speaker 3

You fucking turned the ship into Hashimo?

What do you mean what happened in base?

Speaker 1

Nigga?

Speaker 3

You want me to run that.

I don't want to bring up open old wounds, but if you want, don't do that.

But I wasn't wrong, yo, I wasn't there.

Remember I came and it was just blood on the wall, and I'm looking like, what the fuck going on?

Speaker 4

It's blood everywhere?

And you like em nigga, stick up glared.

I said, your means listen, No, I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 3

But you.

Speaker 1

I remember you were murdered.

Speaker 3

Call yeah, no, we came up there.

Speaker 1

Ya.

Speaker 3

You was like, Yo, what the fuck going on in the stupid I don't think you should come back up the baseline.

He was like, Yo, don't come there.

Speaker 1

Like what you mean?

Speaker 3

It was like, Yo, don't come back up there there.

Listen.

It was sister Tayi Si is the one who called me.

She was like, Yo'll bleak you in the city.

Because remember I was the one who came to baseline early in the morning.

Speaker 1

Y'all.

Nigga used to be.

Speaker 4

There vampire hours.

Yeah, she called me like, they'll bleep you in the city.

I'm like, yo, I'm want my way to the city right now.

She was like, yo, please, whatever you do, get to the studio now, beans in them uphill wild.

Speaker 2

So I said, what they flipped on you?

Speaker 1

She was like, no, when you see you go and see it wasn't no girl in there.

Speaker 3

Yeah it was.

Speaker 2

And she was the receptionist.

Speaker 1

She wasn't married over when.

Speaker 2

She was in the front.

Speaker 3

Remember it was remember the front.

Speaker 1

You had to go through the.

Speaker 3

Gele don't know this what happened.

So I go to Atlantic City.

I want some money in Atlantic City.

Smoked them bribe about when like like eighty grand Atlantic City.

Speaker 1

I got a casino story.

So we left for Atlantic City.

We go the studio, go to the studio.

I'm in a b room.

We're chilling.

You know, I'm on my leisure pleasure.

Speaker 3

And just say that it's live basis.

You hear me, I'm on my leisure pleasure.

So back then, you see how short bleak chain is.

Back then we used to wear it.

Speaker 1

She is a motherfucker.

So that men my leisure pleasure.

I go under.

When I come up from out of my joint stretch.

Speaker 3

I look on the floor and it's this mad hundred dollar bills all over the floor.

So I'm like, what the fuck?

So I checked my pockets, like damn, I know I ain't good.

So I'm picking up all the money nigga caught me about.

Yeah, when I was sleeping, it's two fingering me money out of my pocket.

This man, it's all honeys.

So I'm worrying about the money and I'm like, damn.

Speaker 1

Then I look chain go on, so I'm not hold on.

Speaker 3

I'm not hold up.

Speaker 1

Fuck the money.

It was about that rocker fella, like that's a badge of honor.

That's like a bulletpoof vest.

Mens.

Speaker 3

You can't get upstairs in baseline without somebody busting you win, right, So I wake up everybody that's with me.

Speaker 1

You got my change, got my change, but nobody got the change.

Everybody done.

Wait.

Speaker 3

Mom, I'm like, yo, I woke up to see the money hanging out in my pocket.

Speaker 1

It's all on the floor.

Speaker 3

I must have came out and they did, so I said, Okay, I go to the front for some reason.

Today, the cameras ain't working.

I need to know who came up in.

Speaker 1

That chain.

Don't come up fuck the money, mop this ship.

Cameras ain't working.

Mop this ship.

But but did this stuff.

Speaker 3

Not only did they take the chain, he stole g the records, their summer sit.

They ain't putting that ship together.

They ain't just take the chain.

Remember Jay music, but they don't talk about that.

They stole the music too, but they don't talk.

Speaker 1

They just talk.

Speaker 3

So Shoe ain't left.

Ship went and left.

Speaker 1

Ship won't left.

But I paid for it though.

Speaker 3

That's what I'm about to tell.

Speaker 1

Ship lost me like him before.

Speaker 3

And that was before what your second album?

I don't know that was around the second like going to Air that was.

I think it was either the third album or the second album.

Speaker 1

I gotta remember.

That's what I was saying.

Beans.

Speaker 3

It was so much sh that Nigga's like, yo, I don't think hold me listening he gonna get it.

Speaker 1

I can't.

I can't matter on what I done.

Nothing.

Speaker 3

If you when you already said you wanna leave me in jail, donna matter what I did nothing When that happened to nobody but me, I'm not gonna leave my homie in jail under those circumstances.

Speaker 1

But that's what under the break.

I get it because I look back and like, damn, I was drawn.

Speaker 3

We all was drunk, like I was.

Not just that, not just that.

Ever, I understand because another level, it's another incident that happened.

Speaker 1

I don't want they're gonna talk about that off care.

Speaker 3

But I feel, but I feel Jake, I felt, and that might have been a nil in the coffee.

It's another incident happened.

I don't want to talk about it, but Jay, mine was in the studio.

I didn't know, and something happened, and that might have been an AWL in the off So something happened with mom around.

Speaker 1

No, nothing happened to mine.

Speaker 4

No, No, not hastening, but with her being around, I never happened.

Yeah, I did never know that that might have been a nil in the car.

Yeah, that's crazy to me.

Speaker 1

I understanding Jay.

Speaker 3

Yeah, he's a silent assassin.

Speaker 2

He don't talk and he's not gonna tell you what he thinking.

Speaker 1

He's just gonna move.

Speaker 4

So that might have been in is different when it come to that, And I'm like, like, and you were around, like, remember me, I grew.

Speaker 3

Up with these niggas like I'm always little grow in the eyes.

They never like I always felt like they never gonna let me grow up.

Like it's like my son, my son twenty two, but the nigga you still a baby to me.

I don't know the fuck how old you beat you, my son?

And that's how I feel, Jay and them little grow me that they don't just allow the nigga to grow up.

Like remember you used to get them invited to all the all the gambling I was never remember used to be at all the gambling events with my Kaiser, all of y'all.

But they quit that bread because you was taking that bread, remember you.

Oh damn yo, you tell about y'all what you did to me?

Speaker 1

Y'all?

Speaker 3

What where's in Vegas?

Where's in Vegas?

I lose all my all the bread I had on you were sitting now.

I think you was playing three Cards poor with Frandly.

Speaker 1

You ain't even how to play Snigger, the.

Speaker 3

Thirty Rats, thirty Rock.

I'll never forget, I tell you.

Speaker 1

I said, let me get a dom t get back.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

He said no, no, I said no, no, no, he said no.

I said, okay Yo out Western Union, some money to the table.

I beat him sixty seventy.

Speaker 1

Some stupid nigga, you better put like two more zeros behind it.

Some shit.

Speaker 3

I wind up winning a box something Lenny, I said, tell a story because I had to get his chips.

The Lenny like, find nigga, Yo, you want some shit, and he wound up losing.

Speaker 1

I got on him jet.

Speaker 3

And I was doing that shit.

No, don't give me all hundreds.

I want hundreds, twenties.

I had to book back, so Blee still think I'm broke.

He was like, yeah, he's showing off his money to Jay.

I'm like, yeah, Jay, this nigga won't let me get ten thousand.

He didn't even know what he was doing.

And I told him, Yo, put the money right there.

Blee put it right there, Yo.

He put the money on the joint.

This nigga had a straight or royal flush.

You flush won like thirty sixty thousand.

Speaker 1

And I got on that plane with a buck.

Speaker 3

Something in the book back back, poured it out on the ta.

Bleak, let me get I say, Bleak, let me get this thousands until we get back.

He said nah.

Speaker 1

He was like, you something something something I said, I don't need it.

Who want to play?

Guts zipped?

Speaker 3

Open the book bag?

Dump that shit off, like like, yo, you know what, you don't remember what I told you?

Speaker 1

After that?

Speaker 4

A nah, nigga, you gotta teach you how to play craps.

Fuck that fuck three.

We gotta go to play craps.

Speaker 1

They know what he was doing.

Won thirty thousand, Yo, Where you give me ten grand?

Yo?

I was on some bullshit.

I don't remember that.

Speaker 3

I thought I would have gave it to you now some bullshit.

I gave Jim Jones ten grand for a bad and I ain't give it to my dog.

No, I ain't give it some bullshit.

Speaker 1

I was on some bush.

No, but I know why you didn't give it to me, because remember I had money.

I had create but I lost it.

I had like forty thousand.

He was like, Bro, you didn't just lose all that brother.

Speaker 3

Nah.

Speaker 2

Yo, niggas don't understand the crazy shit we was.

Speaker 1

Doing back then.

Speaker 2

My nigga, you had a fucking alligator.

Yeah, And I remember asking this nigga.

Speaker 3

He and the Bentley the alligator in the passenger seat with a diamond collar.

Yo, beans, you want to alligate word.

You're like, yeah, look that.

Speaker 2

This shit just bit big face.

You better look out.

And I'm like, yo, what's the name of the gata?

Nigga said Ili sure for Ali Gata y yo sh.

Speaker 3

I'm looking at this nigga like, yo, he's definitely on the next level.

Speaker 4

Shit nigga riding around the city with a fucking alligator, my nigga.

Speaker 1

So look, I got clearing shut up too.

What happened?

Because free was on free to the joint.

Speaker 3

But cousin he what cousin he do?

Speaker 1

Lion?

Yo?

Speaker 2

Shit to you what he said?

Speaker 3

His name?

Speaker 1

Cousin he right?

Speaker 2

He said, you named him because of But why he said, because I don't know?

Speaker 1

He didn't because you was were trying to figure out why why.

Speaker 3

I'm like, your name start with an ie hi your name because he he was like, beans, just start calling me because of out of nowhere.

He never gave a real explanation.

Now that you said he, I'm getting why I told you y'all was up there doing you're doing a line of line.

Speaker 2

Yo, chilly.

Speaker 1

You know where cousin he come from.

Speaker 3

He had these classes, not h Don't fucking tell.

Speaker 1

Me you had these round joys there was Mosquino Joys.

Speaker 3

They was the same year the Buggy Eye E Class came out.

Yo, So cousin he come from the bed he class Yo ship.

Yeah, start he didn't keep it real about that.

That's where he come from.

Biggas said the Bluggy Eye bigs or ye, crazy's gonna get you.

Let's get into state property man, Yeah, fucking movie.

How would that like?

Speaker 1

Who I did that?

Like?

Speaker 4

That was a crew from Philly, like a real crew.

That's they wasn't named state property else, Like the story.

Speaker 3

Was real, right, So the story was about a crew from Philly called the JBM Junior Black Mafia.

Speaker 1

So when I got with Big Trying and I write this script, the name.

Speaker 3

Of the movie was called JBM, and I was like, no, we can't do that because it's still people to this day that's got a pilsing trying to come on from that ship.

Speaker 1

So we gotta change that.

So it went from JBM to ABM.

Yeah that was our name in the movie.

Yeah, that ABM.

So we had this with you.

So a lot of ship was just too close to the real ship.

So that's where we did that.

And then a lot of the dialogue, I'm like, Bro, we can't do this.

So we switched it up and a lot of you remember we just reading the scripts.

It's like like that, we can't do that.

Speaker 3

Remember every day who they call Day's side.

We'll just get together.

Look, they want us to say this, but we're gonna figure like this.

So that whole State Property movie, we a property.

Speaker 4

Bro, and none of us had an idea that we was gonna make a coke classic like that movie is a fucking class class this day.

Speaker 2

Bro, Like, more people know me for Bleaz than my music.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1

You know that's sh happen than me.

Speaker 3

I tell you no bullshit.

Speaker 2

I get more people like yo that blens character than niggas walking.

Speaker 3

Up on some music.

Shit, say I get that as bees, which you know what I get more than anything what they will stup.

Speaker 1

From bier souls, younger kids.

Speaker 3

They.

Speaker 4

Damn that's another thing.

Man, like not only making history rapping in Philly.

Speaker 3

My nigga, if I'm not mistaken, you put Kevin Lona's first movie.

Nah, I can't say that his first movie.

Speaker 1

It was, but I'm not gonna take that credit.

Nah, you did it, You know I didn't.

Speaker 3

You was with dang right, Dan did it right?

Speaker 1

You?

Speaker 3

You was the media acting right?

Why are you gonna sound it was with Dang because you was you was on the movie tip.

I ain't talking about the breakup Dame with Dame on some ship like that.

I'm talking about you don't do that, you know.

You and Dang was clicked.

We was, but you was blood.

He was caused.

Speaker 1

Y'all was caused.

I was new to in this documented yo.

Speaker 4

You wasn't a little neutral, but there it was new things.

You y'all chose a little bit of side because when the smoke got.

Speaker 3

On, choose no side that you did document it.

Think about this, I'm right, all right, go back and look at look at the document.

When I got picked up from the jail, I was asked on the tour bus.

They came and got me who was I going with?

And I said, to this day, that's like asking a child.

Speaker 1

What parent?

What parent?

Speaker 3

That we've seen that for this, yep, I didn't think a side.

Speaker 1

Now Dang was coming to see me.

It was coming to the jail.

But I never chose the side.

Speaker 4

I felt like y'all did on me because remember when it was getting when the smoke with dipset was getting real like when it was becoming.

Speaker 3

A niggas ain't only it ain't only tension in the air.

Niggas is talking on the radio.

Niggas is making records.

This is on the mixtape case Slave Rest in Peace Talking Ship.

Y'all did records together.

Speaker 1

Oh you you did records.

Speaker 3

Cam is on running You pick Up.

Speaker 1

I was way before that pick up.

Speaker 3

No, this was all in the.

Speaker 2

Middle of it at the same time beings.

Speaker 3

But Cam got on running when I was in jail.

I wasn't Homeway dam was on that.

That's another point view.

That's a good coin.

Speaker 1

Remember us keep it rock solid.

Speaker 3

The Gunners was one solid.

Speaker 1

The Gunners was on Joel's album.

So did they pick us hardy?

It looked like y'all was down to day.

How when I was in the jail South, I heard all them ship never all them ship.

Listen I got.

I was in jail at my sound.

What song was they did?

It's time to Set it Off?

Speaker 4

Set it Off?

It wasn't set it off.

They was on Santana album Santanna wasn't on the album.

They were on his albums on on his.

Speaker 3

Album Once Set It Off.

I was in jail when that came out.

Yes, book, NIF said, uh.

Speaker 1

Something about me?

Speaker 3

Were those thinking you hear?

Speaker 1

He said?

He said, niggas wanna I forget the.

Speaker 3

Line in Paris?

Yeah, I remember, but he said.

The smartest choice that we made were running with coach Carter.

So coach Carter was jay Neif told you on that.

Speaker 1

Record he rocking with Ja.

So how you pick a side?

Any side he picked?

Speaker 3

Yo, you've seen you you've seen girls jump double dutch, right, No, it's two feet play both sides cut.

Speaker 1

You know what a pair of you know what a pair of lymps to do too.

Speaker 4

They didn't say anything that's right, you know that when they in front of this person that person.

Speaker 3

But that's just the way I'm never gonna say that's the way it was.

It's just the way it sings.

Speaker 4

But I never that none of that ever get in the way of our relationship because I always felt like if this was a real family, y'all niggas was really like my down South cousins, my nigga like.

Speaker 3

Like and I would really get you was my brother.

Speaker 4

We started this ship, my nigga, all of y'all free the gunners, all of y'all became my brothers, but you was first, and me and you locked in together from the beginning, and all of y'all became family to me, and we all became family.

And then come dipset and then it just felt like everything shifted where it was one side against the other side.

But state property never ever picked the side, never like y'all was on both.

Speaker 3

It was like we fuck with them.

Speaker 1

Y'all was me and Jay.

It's a baseline when we was having.

Speaker 3

A ball wall, yeah, you know, can't talk about that on the pool and I interview and he like, yo, I come in the room and she just got.

Speaker 2

We was in there chopping it up.

Speaker 1

That's killing word up.

Speaker 4

But like I look back at that type of ship and just say to myself, like, dam just imagine if we put all that ego bullshit to the side, because if you think about.

Speaker 2

The problems, was about nothing that she was just I don't even know that she was about nothing.

Speaker 3

Listen.

I don't think it was about Cam Sadi, Jimmy, Setty, big.

Speaker 1

Face, me and you.

Speaker 3

I don't know what the started with.

I just know I'm riding with my mass see niggas to the death.

Whatever they said it was.

When we ride you in a whale slider yo bleaking the whil somewhere.

They said, China just came out with a potion to make it.

Let's get at the whole because we don't want niggas he dunking bleaking the whale somewhere.

I wasn't even mentioned during that record.

Yes you was.

Speaker 4

He said, beans millions, Beans made millions.

But he'll tell you if he wasn't in his feelings wrong record it's the same.

Speaker 1

No, it's not.

Speaker 2

That's the Dynasty remix.

Speaker 1

In my life now, that's Diamonds Are Fan.

Speaker 3

That's not the same record.

That's not it can made millions, Beans made millions.

That's a different record.

That's what we're talking.

Speaker 1

One thing about me.

That's what we talk about.

Speaker 3

I'm gonna get it.

Speaker 4

But I said, so you mad.

You didn't get a shout out on that on that No, not mad, But I'm just saying you like that.

Niggas ain't even mentioned.

Speaker 3

Me and that line.

Speaker 1

You know, No, I got my sally.

Speaker 3

You know how you you playing battleship?

Speaker 1

No my sally?

Uh huh.

Speaker 3

He used to rhyme me up about that, cause you know, when jail we had to drink.

So here playing my man, Hitchy, You're like, damn Cannon, your man ain't fucking with you.

Speaker 1

H This is how our first herding and the jail.

He was like, your man ain't fucking with you.

Why, I'm like, what you mean?

He took off his herding.

He said, listen to it again?

Right?

Speaker 3

What you talking about?

Speaker 4

He said, you know where on that record?

Gus, that's crazy.

But look, you play battleship, you know how to go.

Hey dog, you sunk my battleship.

Speaker 1

I probably saw my own battle ship.

Speaker 3

I think I think that line played the part in me because after that I can't have a conversation with niggas that.

I was like, hey dog, you are you and A will see you see what I mean?

So when I used to start, when I used to part of the will when DJ's and ship and be like, yo, Faan, I need you to play this record and he's real DJs, everybody's look at me, clue.

Speaker 2

Exactly.

Speaker 3

You don't need this?

Speaker 2

You good, nigga?

Speaker 1

What I need this?

You're not good.

Speaker 3

I don't want to break glass in casey emergency.

Speaker 2

Y'all niggas want to see.

Speaker 3

Me break the glass, like shot me, stay away from it.

Speaker 1

At least you could break one.

Speaker 4

Nah, dog Nah, that ship might not break, it might be PLEXI no, no, I never tried.

Speaker 1

To break it.

You ain a wheal yo.

It's bleak good yo.

Speaker 3

But listen, he in a will somewhere.

Speaker 2

My man gotta die for that.

Speaker 3

I don't want that.

I don't want that breath.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

I told hold that or my daughter.

Speaker 3

We ain't told me that.

He came to me and was like, yo, em, you know that shit real?

And I told him I hope I never see that money.

You feel me.

I want my man to live forever.

Speaker 1

That ain't That's what.

Speaker 2

I love it.

I love the gesture, that's my brother.

Speaker 1

I love it.

Speaker 3

But I want my man to live forever.

Man.

You know what I'm saying.

I want a soul to live fever.

Speaker 1

I don't want no life.

Speaker 3

That's ball together.

I want a ball when you go, you did right, you know?

Speaker 4

And like that's another thing.

Like I've been trying to set this.

You've been on all you know, Ice Ice tea tall.

Now y'all on another tour right now right yeah, with the cash been trying to catch up with you with the cash money ice Ty Tour, The l Al toy.

Y'all niggas on tall tour life.

Been trying to catch up with you to sit down.

And when I spoke to you, I spoke the freeway.

I spoke to your brother News.

He was like, yo, if you want to catch beans, and we got a new restaurant, pull up to the restauranom I said, y'all got a new ut.

Hell yeah, pulling up, nigga.

Speaker 3

I'm a fat.

Speaker 2

I'm a fat nigga.

I'm not any you feel me?

Speaker 4

So we here and my nigga beans Establishment sent Toucciese original square pizza.

I want to congratulate you, my brother.

This is the ship we work for.

This is the ship we dream of.

This is the ship we can leave our kids.

Speaker 3

You know what I mean.

Speaker 4

It's real and I'm in the staff.

Were in the kitchen, like you said, we walked through the kitchen on think it's a gang.

Now we're really in the kitchen.

Speaker 3

Kill me, real shit, man, I just want my slice of the bar literally, even if it's square, literally, even if.

Speaker 1

What what gave you the idea to be like yo?

Speaker 4

Fuck that man, I'm getting in the food because you always been a cooking ass nigga on tour.

Speaker 1

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3

I mean, just me and my brother, my sister putting our hands together and just think we I ain't getting no younger.

Speaker 1

I ain't gonna be torn five.

Speaker 3

I ain't gonna you know, I'm I'm working on a project right now with this aiding.

Speaker 1

I think just that they might get that and I'm done with it.

Speaker 3

You're done, that said, I'm done with it.

Speaker 4

That's dope, though, man, Like I'm not a fan of the AI shit because I watched the Terminator Dog.

Speaker 3

Yeah, John Connor, kid, you know what I mean.

I got the pistols, we ready.

You still got the baby white for me.

I might need that again just the case AI take over.

But the way you use it AI, I think that's the way AI is meant to be used this store or something.

Speaker 1

You know.

I'm on on DC.

I hit you out years ago about this.

Let's go.

Speaker 3

I ain't even think about that.

Speaker 1

I think we the only two that this AI thing will get accepted from.

Now.

Speaker 3

That's dope, man, I ain't even think about d OC.

But like one of the things I always felt like, I'm.

Speaker 4

Like, man, you know, we lose a lives men, we go to jail, We lose friends, we lose family, we lose money.

Like a nigga sacrifice a lot of things, man, And I feel like if they want to.

Speaker 2

Take something from me, take something, take a talk, take a finger.

Speaker 4

I know when I spoke to you and you was like ell, man, like look what they did to me, my g I I couldn't express it to you then because you know, I was my first time seeing you.

But bro, like my nigga, that that shit shot in my heart, my nigga, because I know you and I know us.

Our voice is how we made our live and how we made our four y'all, we fed our family, man.

So for that to be taking away from you, my nigga, your strength, your resilience that you use to push through and still perform, still make music.

Speaker 1

And that's what's not like, man, because.

Speaker 4

It's like I said, you know, we could talk about stuff off camera and deal with it, but it's people out there who.

Speaker 2

Don't know what we discussed and might need that inspiration all that shit.

Speaker 3

Rough man, know what I mean?

Speaker 1

You know what, I was far out of bams and then go forever and the booth one take and now my whole the way I record.

Speaker 3

It's different because I write, you know, we that's right, picked it up from the big Oni.

Speaker 1

We don't right right.

So when I'm writing in my head, but when I go on the booth and.

Speaker 3

Try to delivery, I gotta do some shit.

I gotta punch in and I can take a lot.

They give the people what they want.

But I figured it out because I always played with the tracks and learned how to use a lot utilize the tracks.

So you know, it's something that I always did, so I just figured it out.

That's a puzzle to put it together.

And I think this album right here is a well deserved album that I think is really needed, like right now, because you know, we come up right now and in this music era, we in a deaf culture.

Right now, everything is just death.

Everything is dying.

They say drill music.

I call it the deaf culture.

And I think this this album, I'm really talking to the youngins, you know, and.

Speaker 1

And a lot of the music.

Speaker 3

And then I'm talking, you know, in their perspective because I understand because I was a Waian.

Speaker 1

You reminded me, especially saying all the shit that I used to do that's crazy.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's just a few things I want to tell them.

We can't tell them every No, we can't tell them everything, my gee, but just your resilience, your strength, you like your inspiration.

Speaker 1

You inspired the whole generation.

Speaker 4

Out there, if somebody ever told you, or you don't know, I remember, I took myself on the outside and had to look at you know what I mean.

I had to accept what was lost, even though I might not have took a physical loss like you, but my nigga, to lose everything that you thought was your life, you have to reset, start over and go another path.

Speaker 1

It's almost like losing everything too.

Speaker 3

So I had to take a step back from.

Speaker 1

Rock a lot of mind.

I cannot say this.

Speaker 3

That played a part a lot of my the animosity.

I might not have knew how to express it.

Speaker 1

What it was like, what the fucky?

Like?

Speaker 3

This can't be over?

Speaker 1

That's right?

I felt, bro, Like what the fuck?

Speaker 3

I was raised off this, this mile, this thing of ours forever like million feel me like I was even hopeful one day we might even got back together.

It's a reunion ship.

But it never happens.

Twenty five years later, bro, and it's still never happened.

Speaker 1

Nah.

I think, I think, I don't know.

Speaker 4

I think certain niggas and the crew went too far.

Yeah, I think they went too far, too far.

You know, it's a lot of us.

Speaker 3

Still accept my icept minds and you and you, You and Jay spoke about that, like y'all seen each other at Clark Kent funeral.

You know, y'ah accepted.

And you know I heard that from Biggs.

I spoke the Bigs the next day because I wanted.

Speaker 1

To tell him myself.

Speaker 3

I didn't want it to go through third party because I ain't gonna say no names.

A couple of people from the crew with CJ, and I heard like Jame's like hot beans doing it.

Speaker 1

Oh no, he's cool.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm cool the fuck.

But like if I can never tell a billionaire that's homie that he ain't seen a year.

Speaker 1

To be like, no, he fucked up?

Speaker 6

He me, what do you mean I'm cool, nigga, I ain't doing I'm grinding fundies, Ain't I'm cool?

Speaker 3

You crazy?

That far from cool?

Speaker 1

Man?

Yeah, I'm still waiting.

You know, you're going through some ship.

But he ain't still.

Speaker 2

Waiting, he said, yeah, he said, yeah, still away, it's.

Speaker 1

Still away, yo, Hi, huh he ain't he ain't.

You ain't got a lot on this.

Speaker 3

On his plate.

Speaker 1

You're dealing with some ship right now.

He's dealing with some ship.

And I don't even like I said, I don't.

We don't reward fish for swimming.

You know what I'm saying.

You ain't got a lot of ship that.

No reward fish for swimming.

Speaker 3

No, sir, you killed that.

Speaker 1

I ain't heard that one.

Speaker 3

I heard a lot of statements about I ain't heard that one.

Damn killed that one.

I like that one.

I remember being I wasn't with you, but I was in Philly when what's my man name, fucking the comedian he was down with dips Cat William Yeah, came to Philly and brought you a fucking land bull.

Speaker 1

I had to get that back.

I couldn't keep that, gave it back.

Speaker 2

Yeah you're a good man.

Yeah, you're a good man.

Speaker 1

Cat.

Speaker 3

Listen, that shit would have been a malleable right now.

So what happened was Cat came to a show, he gave me the card, right, It's like, yeah, that's your uh huh.

Speaker 1

I didn't know, Himan cav what's going through drama like that?

Yeah, so you know that was part of.

Speaker 3

The shit like you said, I put gather on, I'm not taking I didn't take the calv on.

Speaker 1

That was Dame did that.

So yeah, me and Cav.

Speaker 3

I was in the movie with his first movie where he I don't take no credit for that, so he gave me the lambot.

So I got a show.

So that there, I got a show.

Incident happened this documentary and cav got me.

I mean yeah, Cat Williams gotten something with some niggas on the stage and I knew him and they went too far with that shit.

Speaker 1

So it was on my watch.

Yeah, So I couldn't keep that.

I wouldn't felt right as a man keeping that.

So go ahead, Cavi, I can't take that.

Speaker 3

You're good nigga man.

You better than me though, like I said, calve shit would have been on No Stringing Park right now in front of the Chicken.

Speaker 2

Spot blizzle back, yeah, yo.

Speaker 3

Like, how do you feel about the state of Philadelphia hip hop now?

Speaker 2

From where you took it to where it's at at.

Speaker 1

I think there's a lot of good talent in Philadelphia, hell of a talent.

Speaker 3

I think it's too many big eyes in little eyes in Philadelphia right now.

And I think everybody should just work with each other.

Everybody want to make it, and that's cool.

Everybody want to be the one.

Speaker 1

I think.

Speaker 3

A lot of people put I won't even say pressure, but they look at one person to be the savior, and they look and you know, they think me is the be all end off.

And I think that's not fair to me.

M everybody who don't make it.

They're like, yeah, cause Meek should do this.

Speaker 1

Me should do that.

He should put us on.

That ain't fear to me.

Speaker 3

And in my eyes, I think everybody work hard and if every all the artists in the city come together.

Speaker 1

At some point, then Philly is unstoppable.

Speaker 3

As a fact, speaking to me, Meek is a phenomenal artist.

Young boy put Philly took it to another level.

Oh no, listen, when I listen to me as a from a fair, I hear every one.

Speaker 4

Of y'all for state property in me.

I had pete krat I have freeway.

I hear you like, he's no way.

Meek is a produ of state property that's undeniable.

Speaker 3

Every time he rhund, I hear different flows or different shit that sound like I be like, mm, that's that state pee bag?

He in that you know what I'm saying, like, that's everybody for that's anybody that said to the body, she listen to me, you big younar Scarface U yo U yo.

Speaker 4

That's another thing, man, Like do you feel like, damn yours face should have made the album together.

Speaker 3

I wanted that so bad, man, because that macking.

Speaker 1

I think I wanted back before Kiss the Mac.

I wanted that.

I used to bro.

I used to.

Speaker 3

Yo, this is crazy.

You remember Cisco drink drink Yeah, yeah, recipes and my man skinny Toots.

We used to drink Cisco and listen to Scarface before we used to go out rocking.

Speaker 4

God, Damn, I was on some real drill shit.

Yeah you're talking about the drill.

Niggas bucketing.

Y'all was drilling before drill.

That was drilling, gud.

I think it like allegedly.

Speaker 1

We was doing it for the money.

That's a fact.

They killing just to.

Speaker 3

Kill, because they're killing just because nigga said, Yo, you pussy your Facebook at thirty five people liked it.

Speaker 1

Just killed in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3

Sad.

Speaker 1

But you it's only good as the last body.

Speaker 3

You caught, these young boys or some shit.

I don't even want no pussy, yo, chilled, Chill, chill, because I just heard a song where niggas said half of these killers is virgins, and I'm like, fact, it can't be facts, yo, that's insane.

Speaker 1

Man.

Speaker 2

Before I wanted a gun, I wanted some pussy.

Do ye straight up?

Speaker 3

After the pussy, then I knew I needed more money, So now I needed the gun to get more better, you feel me, everything goes together.

First it was the pussy.

The pussy showed you you ain't got enough money.

Then you needed the gun to give more money to get more pussy.

Speaker 2

Like a going about, you feel me.

It was a cycle to this ship by g but.

Speaker 3

And it's so crazy because once you in it, like I got a younger, he booked right now and talented.

Speaker 1

His name FS the Bender.

We had we had some conversations and he don't want to.

Speaker 3

Be.

Speaker 1

He don't want that part of it in his life.

He don't want to be what he is, the Bending, But he feelings though it was too late.

He wanted he in his music.

Oh my gods, music is phenomenal.

If he had a choice, he would do music all day, every day.

Speaker 2

But he's so.

Speaker 1

Afraid of being a rapper.

Speaker 3

Twenty four to seven because you know his background, he gonna get slipped.

He's gonna, you know, get caught out there slipping being a rapper and not being on top of his business.

And I think, like that's sad for him, and like, you know, I rock with young boys.

Music is crazy, but he just caught up.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 4

I feel like ship, I'm way home because I always say, if you're on some criminal shiit like when you're killer being the rappers one of the worst shits you want to be because now your face is on the fly.

Speaker 3

They know where you're gonna be at.

Speaker 1

The face of beings, I mean chases.

I feel sorry for dudes, you know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 3

Like, do you looking back, do you feel like it's anything you left on the table that you or you just like non, I live with no regrets.

Speaker 2

I did everything I needed to do.

Speaker 1

I mean, uh nah m, I have no regrets.

Man, that's right.

I have no regrets.

Speaker 3

I have no regrets because all my music come from a world place.

So if any of that changed, then I wouldn't be.

Speaker 1

The artist.

Speaker 3

That people receive.

The artists that people gotta have no regrets.

It's a couple of things that I wish I would have done different.

You know what.

Speaker 1

You know, sometimes we wear emotions.

Speaker 3

On our sleeves.

Speaker 1

And that's one thing, one thing that I feel as though that.

Speaker 3

Out of anything that I ever did, I exposed family business to the world, and that and that shit.

Speaker 1

Eat me up.

Speaker 3

That I feel you for even admitting that, because I you know, I know a lot of shit going on with John Oh Scheme no and all that I told that's gonna free my dog.

Y'all, my brothers.

I love y'all, niggas, y'all got problem to me.

All of y'all in my family, grew up with all of y'all.

All of y'all was introduced at the same time, so I treat all of y'all the same.

Speaker 1

I never had a problem with none of y'all.

So when I spoke the oh that was my thing.

It's like, yo, my nigga is a thing to have a problem with niggas.

Speaker 3

But when you addressing personal shit and like family business, then it's a line that you're going across that it's like no point, it's no return, you know what I'm saying.

And that's where I feel like us as brothers.

I put it like this, I will never turn that camera onto address you, my brother.

I get on ninety five and drive for Philly.

Before I do that, y'all, I pick up that phone.

Speaker 1

Yeah we call.

Speaker 3

I mean you too our text.

Speaker 4

I don't give a fuck if I gotta d M you or write you on Facebook.

But all of those actions are gonna happen before I turn that them.

Speaker 1

Fact.

Speaker 3

So you know what I'm saying.

And that's just mopping because y'all, my brothers and I feel like fuck, if a nigga want to fight me for being real or telling you what I feel, the fuck it.

We're gonna be rumbling my nigga like brothers do.

And then when we're done, you're gonna understand what yo yo.

Remember Ship Knock like we were shooting the intro to the Hard Knock Like like, y'all, that was some real young boy ship nigga Jay was on supposed to Jay was instigating that day too.

Speaker 2

Jay was instigating because Jay was fucking with me.

Speaker 1

This is back in the day.

Speaker 3

You know, when you first meet a nigga, the last thing y'all niggas do is play with each other.

Government So that nigga Jay was calling me my middle name.

My middle name is d Shawn.

So this nigga beams like ah ah, that nigga.

What else?

It was your lack my last name?

Oh yeah, mister Cox Yo.

Speaker 2

So this nigga like your nigga, the elite Cox.

Speaker 1

So in Philly we are saying when you were younger, you know, getting pussy you know co Yeah yeah, cock.

So I'm like this nigga last name, nigga.

Speaker 4

You don't get no cock yode I got so he didn't, but yo, not because you don't understand.

Speaker 2

As a shorty growing up in school, I had to fight for that every day every day.

Speaker 3

When I first met you and you you was mad.

Speaker 1

Oh I drilled.

Speaker 2

That nigga.

Ja was like, yeamn, y'all, really you really want to fight him for that?

Speaker 3

I'm like, yo, ja, yeah, we wanted to fight.

Speaker 1

I wanted to fight.

Speaker 3

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1

I remember two times you was now that was it?

That was no what else?

Matt, stay properly the movie.

Yes what happened?

Remember they was ordering our food, our breakfast every morning, and I think what I ordered some pork ship, So.

Speaker 3

Order something, order egg and cheese with a biscuit with the bacon.

Speaker 1

No bacon, egg and cheese.

That's it.

They keep bringing these bacon, eggs and cheese.

Speaker 3

Jok.

Speaker 1

Fuck, so where's on the bus this the fourth day?

I did it again.

She bring the box in.

I'm checking them.

I just started throwing them.

Speaker 3

Fleet like, Noah, you was throwing all the throwing all the biscuits clee like, I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1

I ain't bacon now with today, I was slinging the joints, even.

Speaker 7

With the junior bacon cheese workers from with I don't know.

Even going the waffle house, manbody used to get the ship smothering, covering yo ship this yo nothing chumps bleak man went to.

Speaker 3

The wild flop and you know, uh we can't nothing not the white house.

Put the waffle and some eggs everything else on the grill.

Speaker 1

I said, I know bleaking this, So excuse me, ma'am.

When was our order again?

Speaker 3

You ordered, uh three eggs scrambled with cheese and a wiffle, I said, but what did he ordered?

Speaker 1

He ordered steak with the.

Speaker 3

Wiffle, and he wanted hash brown covered in chunks.

I said, what the fuck is covered in chunks?

Speaker 1

Your life?

Speaker 3

Yo?

Na el the ass browns with the gravy and chunks and amn on.

Speaker 1

I said, they don't want that.

You're like, yes, the fuck you he don't want that.

Speaker 2

You don't, my nigga, I don't.

Speaker 3

We used to have so much.

Speaker 1

Be like no ship you can't eat no three times.

I remember one more other time we was at Amsterdam.

Speaker 3

What I do with Amsterdam?

Speaker 1

Remember they had the uh the rod levers.

They had this trucky ass color rad levers.

Speaker 3

They had dash so I think I ordered like six pair.

You ordered six pair and you was like, no, I got so you was trying to get jam par.

I'm like, no, I'm getting these for my brother.

Like man, I said, I'm getting these and I'm taking these home with my brother.

You're like, let me get too pair of them.

Speaker 1

That's whole.

That's Jayson.

Speaker 2

I remember that.

Speaker 3

No, no, my brother.

Speaker 1

He's like, you're gonna do that to the god I said to who He was like, nah, you can't, I said, Jay won't get these roy.

Speaker 4

I remember that, Yo.

You know I still gotta be better of us.

In that smoke shopping afterdam the first time we went together.

You remember we didn't have no black woods.

Speaker 3

Remember we were smoking snoop fucking blood raps on the first time.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because look when you go away, you had to push the button and then.

Speaker 3

The men and the menu were light up like that in the Bulldog, Dang's still with the menu.

You push the button and men you like love.

In the Amsterdam we go to the Bulldog and light up yo, Yo, listen, I remember the first time where it was walking.

Remember I jump because I didn't know the chicks in the window was working.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, yah yo night going through Yo, going through the red light district.

Speaker 3

Remember niggas trying to take raz like nah, he smoked so much in Amsterdam when you came.

Speaker 4

He stopped smoking.

Stopped smoking.

He stopped smoking.

That's so fast and stopped smoking.

We blew it down so much our first time in Amsterdam.

We can't on Thatgga Bean said, I quit.

I don't smoke no more.

It's like why diiggas say, Yo, he smoked too much?

Man, Nigga like, I'm done.

I'm not doing this ship no more.

But guess where he happened.

Speaker 3

Biggs, Biggs really Biggs gave me this ship cal Carojuana, Carojuana.

Speaker 1

It was we it was called Carojuana.

Remember this.

That ship sent four people to the hospital.

I smoke this ship.

Speaker 3

I'm in my crib.

Speaker 1

We're chilling, smoking this ship.

And I look over and I swore I seen the pool ball moving on the table.

Yo.

Ship the fuck.

Speaker 3

Smoking this ship.

I'm like, no, I put that ship down.

Next day, I go to uh, Chad West.

Speaker 1

Crab Chad West on track.

Gee, I'm about to record.

Gotta have it.

So I bring some of the weed with so I tell you, I roll up, Chad.

He smoked the smoking the weeds he smoked.

I go on the booth to call my verse, so I record, lay boom, Chad, you got that.

You keep telling me, no, do it again?

Do it again.

Speaker 3

So I'm like, all right, I'm going in and doing it.

Come out, Chad, what's up?

He was like, one more time?

Put a little So I come out the jaw out the booth.

I look at Chad.

Speaker 1

I'm like, Chad, what you mean?

He stopped.

Speaker 2

Nigga ain't never press record.

He was smoking the wig and was on the list.

Speaker 3

And he said.

Speaker 1

He was like, Yo, what you putting this wig without?

Nigga?

Speaker 3

You rolled it, yo, I ain't putting nothing in it.

Speaker 1

I go home.

I'm telling everybody, Yo, Chad it parting, he's smoking it.

Speaker 3

Then I smoked.

I smoked this wig.

Then something said, you know you aren't supposed to smoke that ship, So I put the l down.

It was like, oh ship, my ship started beating fast.

Speaker 1

I'm like, damn.

It was like, nigga, go upstairs and get in the shower, get that ship off.

I went upstairs.

Speaker 3

I'm listening to to myself.

Go upstair, I get out this shop.

In my head, someone was like, you know that ship ain't gonna work.

Lay the fuck down.

Speaker 1

So I laid out.

I go downstairs.

I tell my brother.

I'm like, yo, y'all gotta take you to the hospital.

Speaker 3

So now they laughing at me.

Joe, She's like bogging, they laughing.

I get to the hospital.

They're telling me I'm having anxiety attacks.

Speaker 1

Off the wied.

Speaker 3

So I hide the weed, put in the shoe box, put in my crib rest in peace to Uncle Doc.

Speaker 1

Yo, Uncle Doc always rumming in in my closet.

Speaker 3

He felt the pack, found.

Speaker 1

The pack, smoke the weed.

Why was you there when.

Speaker 8

Uncle Doc Doc had to go to the spital.

Yo, shit Matt, Uncle Doc and cousin Carlos to the hospital.

Off heroll he was of them.

Speaker 2

Mac not telling the whole story.

It's Herouina and it was another one called hash Plant.

Speaker 1

Hash Plant, Yeah, I don't know Herojuanda.

It was hash Plant who.

Speaker 3

Was washing clothes.

He was washing some of mac clothes and found it in his pocket.

He felt like about four five hundred dollars.

Speaker 1

You know Max.

Speaker 5

He found four hundred about four hundred dollars and the weed you took, the money got smoked.

Hospital Yo.

No that's good money felt the No, that was hospital yo?

Speaker 1

Are you shock?

Speaker 3

Rested?

Speaker 1

I got.

I used to dodge pleasures, so that was no money.

Speaker 3

Of you fell asleep on the breakfast club.

Hole was hot at you.

Speaker 1

I think that you.

Speaker 3

I would never forget this day that nigga Hole was so hot at this nigga.

That nigga Charlote Maade was saying Son that nigga be just kept saying no, no nigga like Yo.

But the nog j like you, what's up with this?

Speaker 2

Like yo, Jake that nigga live.

Speaker 3

We was out last night, baby, I remember yo.

Speaker 1

I remember one and Enjoy I had the zoo.

I was in Dame office.

You chill.

Speaker 3

I remember his ruler telling us indep don't wake that beer about it hoppenmation.

He alright, yeah, Yo, that was that was that was That was my thing.

That was the thing between my mom my sister.

They used to argue with who's gonna wash my clothes?

Speaker 1

Wow?

Because I was in there.

That's right, yo, listen bringing up sis.

Speaker 3

I've seen sister day manuck grown woman dad Lily.

She was the little yo, bro, beautiful, beautiful, everybody grew up.

Speaker 1

Amazing.

Man.

Speaker 3

I seen your son in the city too, not too long ago, like about the oldest, like about ye right, like probably like about a year ago.

He was up there in your partying with me.

No words, that's Lee.

Speaker 1

Oh that was that was Lee New York you know in the mood y'all live in New York?

Was that's that was Lee thirty something?

Oh no, it wasn't him.

There.

He was short.

He was short, brownskin beard.

Speaker 3

Yeah, had to be somewhere that it might have been your son, because he definitely was like I'm being son and I'm like, oh no, yeah, he said I'm beating something.

Speaker 2

He's like, bro, you know me, I'm beaning so used to.

Speaker 3

Be at the crib bleak and I'm like nigga, you grown man, don't matter you beating something coming you coming out.

Speaker 4

You said the right day, let's go, and I did get the club with us all night, make sure he was a good guy home safe and all that man word.

Speaker 1

Yo.

Speaker 3

You put on and did so much for the city, for the culture.

You feel like the culture don't give you the flowers you deserve.

Speaker 1

I don't care about that for those who know.

No, I can't eat flowers, yo.

Ship that's right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3

I can't eat flowers.

Speaker 1

When people say you're your flyer, I don't want no fucking flowers.

Give me the check.

I don't want the credit.

I don't want I don't even want the credit.

It is what it is, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3

My my thing is at the end of the day, we all gonna die.

So when I go I want people that I know that my kids.

Nah, that's mac son, that seed son.

Speaker 1

You know where that is?

That seed son?

Speaker 3

That's right, No, chill out, you ain't doing that.

That seed throwing.

I seen nothing, that's that's it.

Speaker 1

That's it.

Speaker 2

Then you know you did your job.

Manrant my own flowers.

Speaker 1

Yo.

Yeah.

Speaker 3

People say I don't want to give you a flower, specially through flowers before before I let you you know, we get back to the santuc the party, no grand open and ship.

I just want to say, if this is the last time you ever do an interview, a podcast, anytime they hear you speak, is there any truth that you feel like somebody got misconscrewed on that you want to correct and want to let people know about seeing I think I said it one thing that I that I uh if I had any regrets, and I hate.

Speaker 1

That because I know better.

I want my emotions on my leave, talked about family business to.

Speaker 3

Them like that's one thing I always carry with me.

That that's it, Yo, Bro, I just want I don't say this because I'll be over here and y'all over there.

I tell you this to your face.

I tell free this every day I tell Chris.

But I love yall niggas, y'all my brothers, bro.

Like even when the break up, people would think, Yo, he with Jay.

Speaker 1

He don't my nigga?

Where was that?

Speaker 3

Even every day?

Speaker 1

How many show we still together?

Kick it?

Speaker 3

Think about it.

I'm in Philly every time.

The yeah this year the way your brother hit me, yo, it's that time of year.

Get broke.

Speaker 1

You back.

I'm like, hell, yeah, I'll back.

You know you're coming for that turkey.

Speaker 3

Giving yo, that's right, give me Christmas, my nigga free in the building, freezer freezing but not going tight seeing in the motherfucker nigga.

Speaker 2

What's something my gut that it's a chip.

I'm gonna come around this way right here.

Yeah, you sit here, step over the.

Speaker 1

White you right there and bleink you in the middle.

Speaker 3

Freeze up in the motherfucking building.

Speaker 4

It's the first time we got an intimate intermission with an extra guests on the show.

Speaker 1

You know what I mean.

Speaker 3

Welcome my motherfucking brother.

Crash word up right, niggas crashing ship with something.

My guy crash that freest I just told him, you're locked in name sense.

Speaker 1

What's something, my man?

Speaker 3

What you was doing?

Man, pulling up, just moving around the city.

You're gonna have to come do for the soft over.

That's what something.

You freeze the building?

Man?

Speaker 4

You see you see my notes dog, my notes chair.

I was on my stephen a ship stephen Ay blizzle.

You know what I'm saying here in the building.

Free when what's going on?

Speaker 1

Man?

Speaker 9

It's got anything you want to tell people, let them know what's coming out with me and Max saying here kicking it right.

Come on, I've been hitting you right, I've been chasing them down right out my sneak song.

Speaker 4

You know what I'm saying, My brother, man, I appreciate it all.

No, you know, I love you, my brother, no matter what the fuck go on in the public.

People could read and look into these interviews and see what you see.

But I want you to know this is my family, man.

This guy right here is the glue.

Listen, Flus live on the end of that.

Speaker 3

Funk all that boys, sh right, it's one of the realist, humbless, honest person that you're That's a fact.

Man Freeway, the realist.

Ever, like.

Speaker 4

It's a lot going on, man, and like y'all gotta know, Man Free is the glue because it's a lot of ship that go on in Philly and one person I could call and make sure everything is straight, Free no matter if it's a problem with Because what I had a couple of me and Gilly had a disagreement, Free, put us on the phone.

Me and Beans had a disagreement, Free put us on the phone.

If I have a disagreement with traffic out here, free, gonna put me on the phone with them.

Speaker 1

You are He's the.

Speaker 3

Glue and he makes sure shit right and I love you for that, my brother, to make sure we're all good.

Speaker 4

Certain family stay together.

And you know what this is, man, It's rock solid.

And if we watch Solent, you solid and you my brother, and this is my family.

So when you see them, you see Bliinzi, you see the.

Speaker 3

Rocks rock solid.

Speaker 1

I just want my slice of the bar.

Speaker 3

Let's go, man, saying to even when it is square ringing in the pan, y.

Speaker 1

Mark solid for life.

I know it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, my guys, man, let's go forget about it.

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