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This is Mandy B.
Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio.
Yo Yo yo, Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance.
I'm your girl, Mandy B.
And here we mind our business except when the tea is scorching and the government is lying on This week and this is America, the Epstein file are being released.
Yes, those files, y'all know, the ones that they said didn't exist.
Speaker 2Of course, of course.
Speaker 1But somehow now they are out and about and ready for us to explore.
But we'll also see because they're redacting mad shit out of it.
So who knows what we're gonna get.
It's giving a fallacy.
Meanwhile, the Maggers are finally burning their little red hat.
And not because Trump is out here showing us again that he doesn't care about basic human rights.
Oh no, it's because he might have allegedly put a little dick in his mouth.
That's the line in the sand for the Republicans apparently.
And why are the barbs in the White House?
Why is Trump acting like he gives a fuck about Nigeria.
Well, we're getting into that as well.
Then in Celebrities say the darness things, Repper the Game admits that he's losing sleep because he realized he wasn't a good man and wasted women's time.
White ceiling, Sir, that's not insomnia, it's called consequences.
And is this another case of men no better?
They just choose not to do better.
We're gonna get into that.
And then also apparently all these celebrities are meeting with rabots.
Speaker 3I feel really blessed to be able to sit here with dj D and just take accountability.
Speaker 1Do they even speak the same language.
I don't know what's happening, y'all grab your side eyes and your ignorance because we're diving into it, and per usual, I am joined by my super producers.
I got journalism Jason Gang Gang Gang, which unfortunately he's not here for.
He's not here to get inside of a king the side inside, but that's what I'm saying.
He puts something he back from the back.
Speaker 4I just like Redactive File.
Speaker 1Y'all know that.
Speaker 5Robinson.
Speaker 1We were up in New York and got to record quite a bit of episodes and I just felt like, can you showed up as somebody that I hadn't seen you?
As it was?
It was given combat Jack Potter, Okay, okay, it was regular.
Speaker 6Yeah, you asked some I think it was what we were talking about.
I think this is the ebbs and flows of the conversation.
In those conversations, you know, we got Today's gonna.
Speaker 5Be quietly in your crib, like do.
Speaker 1I pod quiet do anything?
Speaker 5It's do you mean the house?
Like discussing ship bouncing?
Speaker 2You know, it's like taking shots.
Speaker 5I do that ship.
I had the mics on it.
The crib.
I'd have been I had no friends, I do.
Speaker 6I was lighting everybody up the other day when I saw the with all the action.
Speaker 1What I was like, I do listen to pods and suck my teeth and be like, what the fuck are y'all talking about?
Like I be mad at what I listened to?
But you know, well, part of the fun is introducing you.
Y'all have heard him before.
He is the man behind all of the dopest, funniest titles from Boston.
But also he is a man of many opinions, and I'm really excited to have him join Selective Ignorance a lot more often.
Y'all are about to hear.
Okay, here's the thing now because Jason Lee the Jon, but you know there's the other Jason Lee.
So are what are you gonna do?
Are we able to be?
Like?
Can say jay z Ambulance?
Speaker 5Oh that's a good car.
I should bring back the lot.
Speaker 7You know jay Z used to have it used to be j A y Z with the over the.
Speaker 2Age, over the Yeah, bring that, bring.
Speaker 7That into jo that's sophisticated, bring that in the fashion yeah yeah, yeah, bring back toine.
Speaker 1Okay, So are we gonna though, expound on your voice as John, are you just gonna be or do you want to be Jason Lee the black one?
Speaker 6Here's what because Ja, we do have a white to ray and a black to that's true.
Speaker 1The tour, you know what's crazy.
We y'all kept talking about so To gonna come on the show.
Speaker 5For sure.
Speaker 1When y'all kept saying that, I thought it was the nigga with the curly hair with the glasses.
Speaker 5That's the white white the rappertoire.
Speaker 1That's who I always thought y'all were trying to get me next to.
Because I see a lot of his videos.
Speaker 2I don't see black.
Speaker 5He's not white.
He's like he's.
Speaker 1Because he's he's light skinned.
Speaker 5But he's from Brooklyn though shout the tour.
Speaker 4I think it's from like Boston.
Originally he's got he got his stripes and he was LOOKI I'll.
Speaker 5Be seeing him running around Park Slope.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I love that we're starting off this problem.
Speaker 5You know, I saw a video of him.
You're not gonna like that.
He got a video.
Speaker 6Encourage everybody to see it.
It's from to and it says which one white.
Speaker 1We got to stop that?
Speaker 7You know the reference that's real.
Pod Lord, if you know, if you know, but know to A.
Speaker 6Has a excellent breakdown of why he hates Drake on YouTube.
Speaker 5So I hate Drake.
Speaker 1First watching it, I want some reasons this hates Drake.
I won't be watching that by the way.
By the way, I just love the white black whatever polkadont everybody just want to get off by talking about how they hate the biracial Drake And ain't nobody got time to be seeing or listening to why people hate people?
Speaker 7Well listen, well, we're gonna get it.
We get into the topics.
I have more Drake slander, but that's that's neither here.
That's neither here nor that we'll get We'll get to that.
Speaker 1This is not going to be a podcast that we lean on hate Drake.
Speaker 5Okay, we don't not like him?
Yeah I don't, I don't, I don't know.
I listened.
I was listening to this ship the other day.
But where the shoe?
Where the shoe?
Fish?
I'm gonna make the nigga wear it.
That's it.
Speaker 7But I'm gonna answer your question directly though about about the duality of Jason Lee.
Speaker 1And yeah, yeah, give me the.
Speaker 7I'm not gonna let that nigga soil the brand, like the brand the brand of Jason Lee.
Speaker 5Like niggas know me around here.
Speaker 7You know my body, you know what I'm saying and so like, and when they know me, they don't know me anything the way they know him.
And I'm the bossip nigga nigga, and niggas don't know me like that.
Speaker 5Niggas know me in a different kind of way.
Speaker 7The niggas know me in a way of like dignity and respect and like, you know, to let us know like how real it is.
So yeah, I'm not gonna let him soil the brand.
I'm Jason Lee and that's just what it is.
Speaker 1Period.
Speaker 5But versus but versus get that both.
Speaker 1By the way, I love Jason, So of course the next time you next time and because you're about to be up here, like y'all about to get to know this whenever that motherfucker says foot on Atlanta soiling.
Speaker 5It's been a long time coming.
But he got the ancient Josh, so that makes him him.
Speaker 2Yeah, and that's how like A stands for him.
Speaker 5Right.
Speaker 7But here's the thing, right, like people that if you see me in the street, right and you call me Jason, I know what time period in my life you know me from right from like eighth grade to through college and all of that.
Speaker 5If you call me Jah, I know what point after.
Speaker 1I May two thousand and nine and beyond.
Speaker 5So the name came about in like two thousand and.
Speaker 7Six, okay, And like, I don't know if we have time to go through this whole, Lord.
Speaker 5Not, but it's not.
Speaker 1We'll get we'll get get We'll get.
Speaker 5Well, get that eventually.
Speaker 6But yeah, but the whole because you smoke greenery, I thought you were Jamaican too, people.
Speaker 5That's that's normally.
Speaker 7Normally, that's how it's I would say that, and people are like, that's the far Like I hate to break you, I hate to bust your bubble player, but that's.
Speaker 1Not I'm actually African American.
Speaker 5Said, I'm a nigga.
Speaker 7Okay, but but the disappointment in people's face when I tell him it's not Rostar is always funny.
But yeah, but people know me from being a certain kind of way.
So now you know now that I came up in the world and I can be on this here Steam platform, you know what I'm saying.
I can I can introduce people to both of us.
Speaker 1Okay, I love that.
Well, then we'll start off shout to shout out.
Speaker 2He came up this year.
Speaker 1About to lit and ship.
Speaker 2What did.
Speaker 5You know out of Philly?
He's like a he's like a political commentation.
Speaker 1We stopped adding to it, like what would we got the whole Verses episode, we.
Speaker 7Got the white Toray black would probably be like Muslim yeah, Muslim yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Philly yeah yeah.
Speaker 1So we're gonna start off I want to I want to kind of just you know, what we're gonna start doing is sharing our ignorant moments throughout the weeks.
And I want to start with you.
I know my ignorant moment that I've had recently that I've am going to blindly share on this podcast for that to keep judging me for all of eternity.
But do you have an ignorant moment that you that you realize that you want to share with the Actually.
Speaker 7And it took me a minute to think about it, but it was really that long ago.
This should be happening, right.
So I'm on the couch, I get a text from my lady that says I just got into a confrontation with the white man.
Speaker 5The fuck Now we're on the phone.
What's going on?
Speaker 7She says, she's at the gas station trying to get gas.
Some white man in a home depot truck.
Was I guess trying to take the spot that.
You know, people get greedy at the gas statione.
She's trying to get in the gas pump.
I gainst the guy's blocking or trying to get in, whatever the case is.
She asked him, Hey, I'm trying to get in this spot.
Speaker 5Can you help.
Speaker 7You're talking to me, bitch.
The white man said that to her, you're talking to me, bitch.
I know you're not talking to me, bitch.
What the gas station is right down?
Speaker 3Oh?
Speaker 5Niggah.
I throw on some pants.
Now by this she's like, everything is cool.
I'm good.
Speaker 7I'm about to just leave out of here.
She got her gas.
It happened already.
No no no, no no no.
It might have happened already, but it ain't over.
It ain't over.
So I put on some pants.
You don't even know this yet, but I can put on some pants.
I go to the gas station across the street.
I'm looking for the white home depot van.
Where's the van at I don't see the van.
I go up the street.
As I'm going up the street, I see a home depot van pull out of the Walgreens.
Speaker 5Busty you right in the middle the street.
Speaker 7Hold on, mashed down on this home depot van.
We get right at the red light where both of us are side by side.
I look over there.
Speaker 5It's a brother long locks.
Okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 7But now he's looking at me because I done ran down on him Minnesota.
He's looking at my assistant goes with me everywhere.
Speaker 5I got to ask that my assistant.
Speaker 7Unless we're somewhere in the Federal building or where I just doing, Pat dawns that.
Speaker 5My assistant is with me.
But it's not.
It didn't have to be any of that.
Speaker 7But I'm looking at this guy like, all right, it's cool.
But now he thinks he thinks he didn't.
Speaker 5Say anything, he didn't get out of pocket.
Speaker 7But I just know the look on a black man when a black man is tired of whatever the fuck is going on, and uh yeah, yeah yeah.
So I'm like, all right, drive now he drives up on me.
He don't say nothing, he don't roll the window down.
He's just looking like what's up?
Speaker 5Ain't nothing?
Speaker 7Use bro, we straight.
I thought she was somebody else, both on our separate ways.
Okay, everything was all good.
So my ignorant thought was like, but.
Speaker 1You didn't but you didn't get the white man.
Speaker 7No, And I was mad about that, Like I'm still starting about it right now.
Speaker 5To be honest with you, look like you're ignorance.
Was what my ignorance is.
Speaker 7I'm about to go down here and it's gonna be whatever it's gonna be with this white man, because who the fuck are you talking to?
Speaker 5Second off, watch who the fuck?
You don't know who?
Speaker 7You don't know who that person knows.
You don't know what the other side of that looks like.
Speaker 1Were you more or all right because the man was white?
Because if a black man did the same thing, would you not have had the same response.
Speaker 7It would have a woman a little extra sat on top, but little literally a little slather on that hit sandwich where I'm like, oh, hell no, I.
Speaker 1Got a valid, valid, valid, valid, valid, valid, valid, valid.
So I have also an ignorant moment that I would like to share with y'all, And it kind of leads into a little bit of what you did, But it wasn't all the way white people.
It's a little ignorance, but but it does have to do with ethnicities, I guess, and color and biases, and my this is my selective ignorance.
Okay, So y'all know, the movers was one thing at the top of the air.
But now I'm like juggling trying to find cleaners.
Because what I enjoy about making money is that I offload all the things that a bitch don't want to do.
Fuck the domestication.
I live with a cat.
I ain't got a nigga, so yes, I don't want to watch it'shus.
I don't want to fold my clothes.
I don't want to clean like when my when my house start getting a little messy, I'll be like, I gotta get a cleaner.
So the cleaners that I've been having just don't do a great job.
So I was like, okay, So I asked my neighbor.
I said, Yo, do you use a cleaning service?
He's like, yeah, I use this app.
So he sends me the app, of course with his cold so that he gets his little points or whatever.
And so I download the app and I go, and of course it books you to cleaners that accepts the job, y'all.
I had to sit with myself because I felt so bad.
So I get matched with a cleaner.
Y'all, it's a dreadhead black man.
And I immediately is like, this nigga ain't cleaning my house.
I don't care what type of black que was.
A man with dreads my house the way I think a nigga's like, my house ain't gonna get cleaned by a black man if you had waves.
No, I don't care.
A black man cannot clean the house like others can.
Versus we're gonna get that that.
We're gonna get into that, mind you.
And the problem isn't why I wanted someone new, is because the cleaners that I was using I didn't speak no English, but so they weren't getting it.
Just they weren't landing.
So I was like, okay, but I'm not gonna go from aditya to a nigga with dress.
So then I canceled it.
Luckily, it didn't make me choose why, but I cancel it and say find me another cleaner.
So it finds me another cleaner.
The cleaner is a white woman.
Now I was willing, actually I will need to give the white woman a chance also because I was like, Okay, she ain't gonna know who I am.
Maybe this white woman knows how to clean.
I don't know, but I was like, I'm gonna give her a chance.
This raggedy bitch two hours before the clean tries to cancel on me because her child is sick, not knowing it's fucking them kids.
You can think, give a fuck about your sick kid.
Ask somebody else, nigga my house clean.
No, it was true to app and she tried to cancel it.
But also if I canceled it, I was gonna get charged for canceling.
So I said, bitch, you cancel it.
She was like, no, it's gonna charge me.
I said, well, you lose your money and take your little motherfucker kid to wherever it need to go.
But I was like, you know, I don't give a fuck about your kid being sick, bitch, my house need clean.
So this is all me being super selfish, super ignorant all the things.
And so I was like, damn, not giving no white to try anymore, because bitch the nerve.
So you just think you privileged enough to cancel on me two hours before the clean and then and then you thought I was going, it wasn't.
Speaker 2It wasn't given.
Speaker 5It wasn't giving.
Speaker 1It wasn't it wasn't given.
Jacques Jean, Okay, it wasn't given that.
So anyways, then the white woman cancels.
So then I decide to go back to not the app to the person who speaks no English.
Well, I decided to also ask my my other friend, you got any cleaners.
He said, yeah, it's a it's a husband and wife.
So the husband and wife comes over and they don't do a good job.
So anyways, all I know is I am willing to try hundreds of Maria's to get it right, because they're gonna get it right.
But I have zero intention on having a black man or now a a white woman attempt to clean my home.
And here's the other really really ignorant and self like I think highly myself.
I also don't want any black women cleaning my house because I feel like they're gonna know who I am, or they're gonna have friends who know who I am.
I'm very particular with where I know, people know where I live, and I just feel like niggas who don't even speak Spanish not gonna listen to any of the ship put out.
But I literally was in my head like I'm reaching out to all my friends like do you have a cleaner and what language do they speak?
And what they look like?
I'm literally asking what they look like.
And I was just like, damn, this is really ignorant than me.
But also and.
Speaker 6No, it's safety.
It's safety, and you you have.
It's safety, and then you have a particular style and expectation of how you want your be clean.
Speaker 1And is it bad that I only feel like an Espanole.
Eventually, on chet GBT, I made a wholess of I want done and then made my husband chutch you b t literally put it in Spanish and then send it to them like don't leave the house to all this is done, but it's it's in Espano.
Speaker 6Yeah, you want you want to you want to name the ends in a O A or gonna use fabuloso, aonia, get your beach, You're gonna use all of the elements of clean.
Speaker 5We don't want that.
Speaker 1Fabuloso that's that's a nigga, that's we do that.
Speaker 5That appropriate people they do that.
Speaker 1Okay, you want to know what what we do and maybe maybe you'll do this or maybe y'all don't.
This is some This is okay, this.
Speaker 2Is really I'm confused when you say.
Speaker 1We might so not even really using the fabulous So but if you put it on the stove and your whole house spell.
Speaker 4I've heard that you but you think it's us, right, I think I think you'll.
Speaker 7Pioneers it's but it makes sense how I might have to do that.
Speaker 1But yeah, okay, So am I ignorant?
Or is this a generational or what is it?
Speaker 4Uh?
Speaker 1An American ignorance that we can all accept that we want at Spaniols to clean our house and probably not, because they could be Dominican, Puerto Rican, Mexican, just at Sponiols all around.
Speaker 7Well, here's what it speaks to, Honestly, here's what I say it speaks to, probably more than anything, is that.
Speaker 5People who come here from other countries.
Speaker 7Immigrants, they're cleaner than us, not even it's not even, it's not even the cleaner.
It's taking pride in your work, whatever whatever work you do.
I put in a hard days work.
This is this is my job.
I try to do it to the best of my ability.
Show up here, every day, I bust my ass, I get it done.
I try to do it the right way.
Speaker 1Yeah, Americans like American they like and yeah I want no corner un white Okay.
Speaker 5And Maria's mom is she probably Maria's mom.
Speaker 1I did not call them Maria.
I would rather say it than Maria Spanolspanola, Maria.
Speaker 6The subjects mom probably taught her at a young age how to get every nook and cranny really how to clean as Let's be.
Speaker 1Very clear, that's why a black man broad because because what black mom.
It was a sorry y'all say, some crazy are teaching their young black boys how to literally elbow grease, do dishes?
Really?
Yes, So how can y'all forget when y'all grow up?
Speaker 5Because that's correct, what.
Speaker 1Ignorant conversations I didn't been to enough grown man's homes.
Hold on, And for the ladies listening who date men and have to go to a man's home that doesn't have to touch up a woman to grow between the bathroom, the kitchen, and I'm not even talking about how you interior decorating things.
There are ways that in which throughout my twenties and even into my thirties, well, no I was with a man in my thirties, like was in a relationship, but throughout my twenties, when I was going over men's homes that lived by their selves, it was like, yes, it was good, it's not even it was like the other shit like dust, Okay, you know, maybe you're not dusting the ceiling fan.
But in terms of as a grown man, why does your home look like this?
And why I so I'm supposed to suck your dick and do everything else I'm being judged to why I'm not cleaning your house?
Like That's been a constant thing, even men with money, right, Like when I used to get flown out, a man would be like, oh, I'm not wifey material because when he go to practice and come back the house ain't clean.
Nigga, why are you flying me into a dirty, dirty though?
And so like Okay, it sounded brash when I started it off.
I get it, but.
Speaker 6I do have I know people going to be in mandy because I like to do that.
You work hard, you work hard, you work to get to that place where you can do these things.
There's no there's no foul, no harm, no foul there, so you have you should be entitled to have these services.
However, however ignorant.
Take that you lean back.
I want you to be more ignorant.
People to be listening, like so, you might have blocked your own blessing.
That could have been your soulmate.
Speaker 2I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 1I got your house clean and context.
Speaker 6And he probably had drawn up some good conversations with her, and then she would have found out, oh.
Speaker 1He has Do you think that somebody cleaners?
Speaker 5Well you had to, you're going to be there.
Speaker 1I don't want to talk to the person just cleaning my home.
Speaker 5She worried that her draws are gonna end up on eBay.
Speaker 7That's what I mean, That's what But I will say this though.
Me when I was single, boy, I was notorious.
If I go to a woman's house and I go to the bathroom, killing bat that shower, killing that show.
Speaker 2What did you find?
What did you find?
Speaker 5Soap scum?
Speaker 1Make a make up marks, making my brains full of hair?
Speaker 5The the thing is not clean.
It might be a new razor and a rusty razor right next to each.
Speaker 1Other, So what we forgot to throw the old one away?
Speaker 2Nah?
Speaker 1No, it's not as bad as what a man's back, we thought we're not doing I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 7However, I want to eat the pussy of a rusty razor.
Speaker 1But maybe you know what's crazy about that bringing up we all went to one music fest together, and what's crazy is I walked into the man's bathroom because the woman's line was way too long.
Speaker 5I've seen that you walked out.
Speaker 1Shut up, I will say.
In terms of public restrooms, oh yeah, women's women's public restrooms, I can't believe I eat pussy when I disgusting place.
Speaker 5I haven't heard of women that says no, no, no.
Speaker 1It is one of the most disgusting places like ever.
And I don't understand why women when they go out in public and have to use the restroom, why apparently they don't understand the concept of wiping their seats, rolling up their pads, double flushing, if there's still blood or remnant slept in it is.
It is the most foulest place like fuck.
I know everybody just did the Haunted Houses and ship during Halloween.
I know that I can't think of actually in my head something more disgusting than the public female restaurant.
Speaker 7Well, this is why Dick's are convenient, because we can have urinals.
We can just step in with and play.
Y'all don't want to sit on the seat, so it's a whole.
Speaker 5Joint, y'all.
I have no control, So it's.
Speaker 1Just my knees are not strong.
And if and the best in the best of restrooms, well they have the papers that you can I normally do three if they have like the ones that are already they're already shaped like the seat three status too thin.
And then if not, which sucks, especially if you gotta be real bad, I line I line the seats.
I'm gonna sit, but I'm gonna line it.
Speaker 5I would say three like.
Speaker 1Raw bear ass.
They'retty bad, but not as a seat.
Speaker 7I've just seen his Instagram video of this.
Uh, I don't know what I mean.
Listen, she said she was a scientist.
Speaker 5We just take whatever.
Speaker 7But the lady was trying to make an argument for the fact that public restroom seats are cleaner than a lot of people's.
Speaker 5Cell phones cell phones or or in home like bathrooms.
Speaker 7You think it's like the good bathroom these ad a lot of times the public bathroom is actually more clean and or and or.
Speaker 2This is why they don't believe science.
Speaker 1But this is why.
Speaker 5Because instan cleans the seats.
Speaker 1No no, but not before that, like you got multiple asses, mind you, white people don't even if they don't shave their lower legs, they don't.
Speaker 5They don't accept it.
Speaker 2Person.
Speaker 1No, no, no, no, I accepted a white person.
And this she pissed me off because she thought I gave a funk about her kid sick.
Damn.
I sounded like trash.
Speaker 2You know what.
Speaker 1Let's get as a this is America.
Speaker 5We't got to see.
Speaker 1Let's talk about the goddamn country we's living.
All right, Let's start with let's just do the Epstein files.
Trump made it seem like we should be so excited that he passed the bill to release these Epstein files.
Again, not only do I question science when it's you know, proposed to us as facts, I question everything the fucking government decides to feed us.
Right, And so apparently we're supposed to be giving, uh, given these Epstein files and believe them to be true in nature to what apparently it is.
Now they are supposed to be redacting some ship apparently, John you said, you said, you heard that they're pretty much gonna redact all the Republican names and only give us the Democratic names.
Speaker 7So the rumor that was going around after the House passed the vote was that, I'm sorry.
After the Senate past the vote was that, Okay, the files are gonna come out, but Republicans are going to try to redact all Republican names, any reference to anyone on the conservative side, and the only names that were going to be left were Democrat names that had some relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
But that's that's like, that's a I don't believe it's true.
I never heard that confirmed by any news source or anybody credible.
That was just something that people started talking about on the internet after this thing happened.
Speaker 5But that's like, now, who's gonna believe that.
Speaker 7No one's gonna believe that Bill Clinton was the only person that knew Jeffrey Epstein like we've seen.
Speaker 1But here's my question then, with when it comes to the Epstein files, if there was so much damaging information and it's what's being alluded about Trump, I do like the question as to why the Biden administration just didn't release.
Speaker 5These There was an ongoing investigation.
Speaker 4Part of it wasn't why because it was ongoing investigator, but the nigga.
Speaker 2Died, but still.
Speaker 3Instigation, but also what was but the investigation there's a list Thelarity and Jail are dead.
Speaker 4Yeah, but their investigation also ends up being like twofold because there'll be like a house investigation in a federal investigation, and so like one goes on and when the other one goes on, the second one and it's a lot of like bureaucratic process that makes it just drawn.
Speaker 5Out and not for nothing.
They're trying to and.
Speaker 2They didn't explain that well by the way.
Speaker 7Yeah, yeahahssaging, The messaging wasn't great on that.
But they're trying to But now Republicans are trying to run the same thing because now they're saying, oh, well, Trump is going to demand the dj have another investigation.
Speaker 1So it's like, here's my question about this too.
The Epstein files.
Speaker 5Epstein died when twenty nineteen, So.
Speaker 1Twenty nineteen, it is twenty twenty five, right, he was locked up prior to that in terms of a lot of sex crimes, and it's what we talk about a.
Speaker 2Lot convicted prior to that too.
Speaker 5Yes, but that's my thing.
Speaker 1There's a statue of limitations on a lot of sex crimes, right, and so if what we're deeming to be a raveled in this in these Epstein files, what doesn't matter this much longer outside of public opinion.
But outside of public opinion, a lot of people that would assumably be in these files can't be charged for the crimes that are.
Speaker 4But I think, I think monetary lawsuits, right, Like I think I think it's.
Speaker 2Like family members and like family and some of the victims still.
Speaker 1But they're coming out saying that they're in these files, but they're still like shame that exists, right, like like like Trump, like like Trump's.
Speaker 4Superpowers that he has no shame, right, Like he says wild ship and he doesn't go down.
But like some people, like this is dude Larry Summers, who's like the typical like Republican Trump, like big Donner.
Speaker 2He used to be the president of Harvard.
Speaker 4He was like ahead of like economic committees in the White House.
He's like classic like Republican dude.
And so like he was in the files because he was emailing Epstein trying to get advice on like how to date this young girl, right, and so like that works.
Speaker 5For him, go to work.
Speaker 1But they're like they're like a little bit, but.
Speaker 4Of age but too young for him, right, and so nothing illegal, but he still had like that that old school shame and so like he resigned from the job that he had right now, like that was like the old school way shit used to work.
And also like people now now, like people is like impervious to that shit, Like they're just gonna keep like talking through it.
Speaker 7Well, that's the thing about it, right, there's there is that impression that that you know, obviously we know Trump doesn't really have a lot of shame, but people under Trump still do.
There's a lot of Republican names that aren't Trump or Ted Cruz or people who we see talked about the news every day that probably don't want their shit on the street.
Speaker 1It's crazy at all.
But when we lean into ignorance, right especially of this country, we're no longer ignorant to the fact that we know old rich white men and niggas with money and niggas with power are kicky ass, nasty ass motherfuckers.
Like so a lot of the things that could come out, of course they do that.
Like I don't even think where we're at right now in twenty twenty five, I don't think we as a people would be surprised to hear what niggas is doing on islands on their time off.
To be fair, it's what we're seeing, like with the response from the whole Didy trial.
Bro, they're not surprised.
Speaker 5Well, no, no one, no one will be surprised.
Speaker 7But I still think if hey, this was most of this is Trump's fault, Like he ran his campaign saying first time, the first time, first time, saying.
Speaker 5That these things were going to come out.
The people that he put in positions.
Speaker 7Dan Bongino had a Secret Service, Secret Service director director Cash Betel.
Speaker 5I guess c II that's what it is.
Dan Bongo's ahead of the CIA.
They are on this like before the.
Speaker 7Democrats was even saying anything about the Epstein files or wasn't talking about it in a mainstream kind of way.
Speaker 5Trump's own people were.
Speaker 7On this Epstein thing because a lot of there a lot of their I guess conservative drain the swamp thing is about pedophilia, Pizzagate and all that kind of shit that didn't just come out of a vacuum.
They really want to attack and get rid of pedophiles.
Speaker 1Waightfair order now because it's gonna come out that way is really selling kids out of the cabinets and surprised.
But do y'all care?
I want to ask the room because for the people even listening at the end of the day, it's a whole bunch of white people that was doing some fucked up ship that we already know they were probably doing it.
That's why they've been trying to hide it this long.
Speaker 5Do we care to come?
Speaker 4We don't care, but we don't vote for them, right, like, like the people to vote for them have like the Christian values.
Speaker 2Like that Florida christ trash like that.
Speaker 5I think.
Speaker 6But what happens is what happens if you're a celebrity and you get invited and you go and you see this ship, and over time you don't say anything.
You just know what happens or whatever, and then you keep your mouth shut.
Then it's like, oh wow, we got these files and it's like, oh shit, well I was at the island before.
Speaker 1I'm like yeah, But but it's the same thing that we're hearing.
Even with the ditty parties, right, people are admitting I've gone the ditty parties, but I never saw the things that you know we're talking about.
I think even us bringing up the Christian values to it and I want to keep it Trump and keep it all the stuff here.
It's interesting because when we talk about Christian values, I guess kids, no one gives a fuck about that.
We see what happens to the Catholic Church even but the fact that now we're seeing this uproar or this or people being irate to see that this nigga might be bisexual or might have had a dig or two in or around his mouth, you know what I mean.
It's like, this is what y'all mad at, Like that he might have grabbed, grabbed some dick.
He already admitted to grabbing kuchie.
Y'all wasn't even mad at him grabbing women by the pulssy.
But now he might have been around some penises.
Y'all are in an uproar, which is also crazy considering just a couple of months ago he on his goddamn plane talking about I ain't going to heaven.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1So and so, even when we talk about the the Trump administration leaning heavily into religious values, it's like your leader right now has also kind of shamed the parts of the religious belief system that y'all really align yourself with.
Speaker 7And he was never a Christian like, he was not like that.
He's not a He was a proxy for white Christian nationalists to be able to feel good about who they were voting for, who they were supporting.
But that man doesn't know about church.
That man doesn't know shit about the Bible or God.
Like, that's not his bag.
And and he's been a public figure now for forty five years.
Speaker 1And I gotta look, the only church you might have went to is the Easy Church.
Until we know Kanye was standing beside of me, he went to Easy Church.
Speaker 5He went to Jimmy Carter funeral.
Speaker 7Outside of that, I can't tell you about your church that Donald Trump ever been in his life.
That's about as far as it's gonna go publicly for Donald Trump.
But ultimately, like, yeah, I don't, I don't care as from the standpoint of I wake up every day thinking about whether but yeah, I do want this shit to come out.
I do want to.
And the thing about it is is that Republicans are fighting this.
Democrats aren't really fighting this, and it's going to be Democratic names in there.
At one point, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton was still stumping for Kambla Harris's last election, he was still so he's still a major figure in the party, and Democrats are at least on the face of it or willing to.
Speaker 5Say everyone can cook.
Yeah, everyone can cook.
Speaker 7It doesn't matter if it's our team, your team, whatever it is, everybody can get it.
And I think that's what American I think that's what the American people want.
Trump ran on draining the swamp, and all his Republican people were down for because they know that this shit is corrupt too.
Speaker 1The only thing I guess I would like from this standpoint would be if these files go, especially seeing what just happened with the government shut down and us only having what a democratic votes, it would be that people step down that are Republican and we're able to reshift some of what's happening before then with what's happening.
If people step down, the only problem is too, I guess, of course checks and balances.
Does this also allow Trump to reappoint whoever steps down, or do we go into different votes like This is something that I don't think we've ever witnessed, like to where all three branches of the government can have people impacted by these files.
Speaker 7I mean, I think some of that stuff you cross that bridge when you get to it.
But I do want to say this because we've talked about like all the other angles of this thing, but I do want to make sure we say this part about it.
The reason that all this has happened is not really just because of Donald Trump and the Republicans who want it, and not just because of the Democrats who want it.
A real big reason why this is happening is because the victims are not fucking around.
Speaker 5God.
Speaker 7These people are traumatized, They've had their lives changed by this shit, and they are pushing the line on it.
They have political backing, and they have media backing.
The media is not gonna let this story go.
Speaker 1With Elon running X and whatever is happening over at Meta, I will say it has been the way a lot of the victims were being pushed into our faces around Bill Cosby, are Kelly and all these other things.
I myself, my algorithm, I've seen very little.
Speaker 5Of the victims.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know, and you know what's crazy about that too.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's like like you know how joh mentioned earlier, like the pizza gate and all that, Right, It's like Republicans do interesting things around like words and languages, right, and so like speaking of the victims and maybe why you don't see them.
A lot of what they're trying to do now is like they're playing around with the idea of kids and young ladies, right and so like like yeah, Megan Kelly's like first and foremost, like a lot of these victims are like fourteen years old, and so like now you'll have like Republican figures and media who they'll say like, oh, these young women, right, because they're trying to paint them as the idea like these guys had kinks for young women who because they want you to think that they were eighteen and nineteen and twenty and not like teenagers, right, because they're trying to like bury the idea like these these victims are you know, these were just fast women who are loose and like now they're regretting it, which I'm sure, Like that's a framework that I'm sure.
Speaker 2I mean it were probably Yeah, and to.
Speaker 5Your point, we haven't.
Speaker 7We didn't see these women as like we don't see pictures of them as little girls.
Speaker 5We don't the first time as grown people.
Speaker 1Yeah, we are.
Speaker 5So when they say young women.
Speaker 2And significantly they're like thirty five.
Speaker 7Yeah, it's been twenty twenty five years since a lot of this stuff happens.
So now when you see their faces and you hear the words young women, for some people, to Jason's point, that would just let them like oh okay.
Speaker 1Well not only that way when a woman is in her thirties or forties coming out about a sexual assault.
Unfortunately, and it's the ignorance within our community that we see, and not even community, I would say, society is that, well, what took you so long?
So yeah, h but if a girl was experiencing this level of abuse at thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old and just now coming out speaking on it, unfortunately, the senses and it's what we've seen with a lot of men who come out about their abuse, is well, why didn't you say something when it happened?
And again, I think you're right.
I think it's skewing what really took place because a lot of these women were actual children.
Speaker 7And I don't have any faith that this will change people's lens on these type of situations, on sexual assaults.
Speaker 5Rapes, etc.
Speaker 7But there's like a cognitive dissonance of conservative people people in general, right in society, but in this case, conservative people who hate Jeffrey Epstein, who think Jeffrey Epstein rightfully was a piece of shit.
But they think that if anyone else says that that they were abused or then it's automatical, like you said, what took you so long?
Speaker 5Or that didn't really happen.
The jump is to defend other people.
Speaker 7But they're so confident that Jeffrey Epstein, they know for a fact that Jeffrey Epstein did this, and wouldn't have any compassion for other people who come out and say they've been sexually assault, that they've been raped, etcetera, etcetera by other people.
It becomes this question of like, prove it to me.
Speaker 1That's and that's I mean, and you can't.
Speaker 5That's just not it's he's.
Speaker 1Say versus she said.
That's essentially what's happening here.
Yeah, it sucks, but.
Speaker 4It's like but it's like he's SAYD versus like they say, And it's.
Speaker 1Still I think it's I think it's goofy, but not as goofy as Nicki Minaj two weeks ago chose to speak at the United Nations in support of the Trump administration and their concern around what's happening with the Christians in Nigeria.
It's interesting because I guess over the last couple of weeks, Yay, the the the the, the presidents of the barbs are coming out saying they no longer support Nicki Minaj, and there's there is There's been a few people that he did it.
And to be fair, since she's been going on these rants over the last couple of months, people have been of course noting her follower count dropping by the hundreds of thousands, so she's lost quite a bit of the support in her barbs.
She is ruining her legacy, is what we're seeing.
And do we have a clip that we want to play because I know, here's my issue where a lot of people are upset that Nicki Minaj went up there and spoke at the United Nations on behalf of the Trump administration.
However, she is allowed to have concern over a religious group that is experiencing you know, there's a human elementary cool However, one of the things that people are confused about and why this is happening.
And boy not me shouting out a man of seals, but I was able to understand maybe what the what's the angle here?
And Amanda Seals did a great job in kind of expressing why Trump might have any sort of care about what's happening in Nigeria.
And let's hear what she has to say.
Speaker 8Nicki Minaj working with Trump admin on plight of Christians in Nigeria.
Either she's getting a check, or she was nagging the whole time, or she genuinely thinks that she's doing something good, which, by the way, is why y'all need to have people around you that know more than you.
And by y'all, I don't just mean celebrities.
Everybody.
Everybody should have people around them that they can consult with, that think differently than you, that hold you in a place of values.
Just so you understand what's happening here with the plight of Christians in Nigeria.
There is a plight of Christians in Nigeria.
However, the US, what does that have to do with the United States?
The United States is using this as a ploy as a proxy to find their way into Nigeria so that they can then find their way into the Sahel States of Burkina, Faso, Molly and niger who, as you know, are coming together to begin a process of Pan Africanism on the continent.
They are taking back their resources from friends.
They are saying, we are going to build our own infrastructures.
This undermines the global empires.
Speaker 5Goal and so they have to try and shut it down.
Speaker 8Now we saw earlier this year with Afrikaan and that Cone, that general who tried to say, oh you know, they got some problems going down in Burkina Faso.
They're continuing to try to make this happen the same way that they're.
Speaker 1Making Vetch happen in Venezuela right now.
And so it was it was really interesting because yeah, again we just talked about how Trump you ain't really Christian.
Now you hear about the plight of Christians all the way Nigeria.
By mind, you not sure if Trump or Nicki Minaja has ever even stepped foot in Nigeria, you know what I mean.
And so, I mean, we know she's been to Prague, can you even spell it?
But I'm not sure if she's gone to Nigerian.
So even her having this, even if she had a spiritual awakening to care about this plight, that's happening on the continent of Africa, and what's happening across these these different countries.
I'm like, girl, you are standing next to someone who is going against not only people of color, but immigrants.
Mind you, you are from Trinidad, so you are aligning yourself with someone who not only goes against many a lot of people of color, you're also going again someone who is against lgbt Q I A plus plus plus rights, which in fact is your fan base.
Speaker 5Also, just to stay on Trinidad real quick.
Speaker 6Venezuela is right there, and between Venezuela and Trinidad right now, that I believe looks like it's to be exploited.
Speaker 5And that and that's why it's like why.
Speaker 6Used when people there's usually something a precursor to that, like we've had some kind of sample size that suggests that she cares or anyone in that position.
Speaker 1I don't think that's why.
Speaker 4That's why such a good con right like the whole because because like the way that she like defends herself, she's like, like, you guys don't care about people, you don't care about Christians, And so it's like it's a good con that like Republicans use with that, and that's why like Christians get played, right.
So it's like Trump doesn't care about the church or any of that stuff, but he knows that like if he says a couple of these words and made like waves the magic wand like this group is going to get activated.
And so like for Nicki, who's probably just we know, she's like doom scrolling just like all of us, Like you know, she's just looking and she's like, oh my god, these Christians are in true And then it's like it's like wording right, It's like who are the Christians in.
Speaker 2Trouble from Muslims?
Speaker 5Right?
Speaker 4So then like now it makes it so easy to kind of like activate like that certain base in the US and then turn on them, and then you may.
Speaker 1Activate this and care about Christians who for the most part, and yet I'm gonna say, I don't give a fuck, do not care about the LGBTQI plus the community because it goes against their religious beliefs, who, oddly enough, are the biggest supporters of Nicki Minaj.
Sure, so who are we activating here?
Who are we actually acting like cares like?
And for her to act like she she does care, it goes against this religious essential group, that goes against everyone who supported you damn near your entire career.
Speaker 7Well, the whole thing on both sides is just it makes your like cynicism since its tingle right.
Because on the government side, I don't like the government, at least under this administration.
Speaker 5I won't.
Speaker 7I'll try to cast a smaller net than I was about to, but at least under this administration, I don't belie even any altruistic agenda that this government has.
They're not trying to help people, They're not looking out for the well being of others.
That's not the reason that they're doing this.
Right on Nicki's side of it, I agree with you.
I think she is being used, but I think the I think her willingness to be used is honestly just.
Speaker 5Because it's for her.
Speaker 7It's like a good look in her mind, because when else would Nicki Minaj be attached to the White House.
Speaker 1Or maybe maybe she want her a rapist brother to be part of.
Speaker 7Maybe maybe so maybe maybe, But like for her, I get I'm Nicki Minaj.
I get to stand up in front in this prestigious position and talk about something like Christianity, like she probably looks at it like this is this is a win win situation for her.
I get a good look and I get to talk about Christianity.
How can anyone be mad at me for this?
Speaker 1It's interesting because it brings you saying that immediately made me think of the Philadelphi, the Philadelphia Eagles and the players who chose not to go to Yeah, you know what I mean, right, but it reminds me of that as as as someone who.
Speaker 5What what is it folk?
Speaker 1And so you do still have black people who feel like being on that podium is.
Speaker 7It's important, It's important.
It's good for me to be that, you know, and with like and even and like.
This is probably going to piss off the parts too.
But like the difference between her and Carti is that like to your it was it you and Jason to talk about like you would you would have seen some precursor precursor to this.
Speaker 5Behavior, like Cardie.
Speaker 7You mentioned the time she said these things on her lives on her Instagram all the time.
Speaker 5So Cardi standing up there with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 7As much as people want to denounce the idea of bringing celebrities and rappers into the d n C or whatever.
Speaker 5She cares, you can care.
You can tell she cares about this stuff.
And she thought about this a long time.
Speaker 1And since she was since she was on a pole star ten years ago.
She interviewed Bernie Sanders ten years ago.
And so it's interesting, You're right, we've not seen Nicki Minajbi Vok any way politically about anything.
Speaker 7And like even when I watched, I didn't watch the whole thing.
I watched enough of it just to get an idea of how she performed.
And the first thing she said, she got up there, you know, I'm very nervous.
Okay, fine, I get it, you're nervous you're standing in front of But also if you care this deeply about something, even if I was nervous, if something was really on my heart and there was one hundred thousand people in the crowd, I could still be able to speak and from my heart and be convincing and talk to people as if I know that I give a fuck sitting there reading a paper about this speech about Nigerians and Christians and how this it just doesn't come off as genuine in any way, shape or forms.
So it's just like that the whole thing, I think It's just I think she just wants the look of saying she's performing.
Speaker 1I mean, I mean, I just I just that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2Formative or does she get played?
Speaker 1No, well, I mean she said she's Unwell you.
Speaker 5Say a lot.
Everybody got a price.
Speaker 1Oh for sure.
But that's what I'm saying.
We don't know if it was the check, if she was promised to pardon, if she genuinely like, we don't know because because we don't know, the same way celebrities don't get paid to perform at the Super Bowl, or they don't get paid like, we don't know if this was paid, or if she just got the invite and was so excited to be behind that podium and and have that look.
We don't know why she, of all people, no.
Speaker 5Reaction with any United Nations when she said that, did anything?
Speaker 7Oh no, I didn't see any reactions.
I mean, listen, it's almost like she was in the room by herself, because the people in the room that she's talking to don't respect her.
The people that wanted her to come on there to say that don't respect her.
Speaker 1I mean, it's say, we saw Trump next to fucking Wayne and next to Kodak and.
Speaker 5You know it's all goofy, but it's all for looks.
They don't.
Speaker 7Trump doesn't give a damn about what happens to Wayne, or give it damn about what happens to Kodak.
And and somebody what it was is somebody probably at the u N who is on their media team, saw these nikkis saying these tweets and was just like, get here's an opportunity.
Speaker 1That's what it was.
Speaker 5And she was gonna go for.
Speaker 7She wasn't gonna say no because this is the opportunity for me to be in this prestigious and she That's.
Speaker 1What I'm saying.
She seemed like she was just so excited to be mentioned on the White House page and the social media page because they did her little TikTok trend that they're like, oh, she'll come up here.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't even know if it was for a bag.
You don't even know if it was for a bag.
Well, let's get it to celebrity set adorn this things because they do.
Look at me, I'm already signed, bro, I'll be so annoyed.
Let's play this clip.
So the game recently sat down on it's the show that I don't know what this show is.
Speaker 2It's it's a Kurt Franklin show.
Speaker 1Well, it's Dinner Kings, and it's and it's men who sit around and talk about their mental health.
Let's go ahead and play this clip.
You might have to chop it up because it's kind of long, but let's let's let's let's play this ship.
Speaker 9Sometimes, Like when I was in my twenties and my thirties, it was just exchange, you know what I'm saying.
It was, Hey, hey, I'm giving you this we have in our moment, and the I'm gona get back to my life.
You get back to yours and emotions because you're young.
Everybody got their whole.
Speaker 4Life ahead of them.
Speaker 9When you're getting your forties, man, you start feeling like you womanize it and you and I'm taking emotions home with me, or she's taking emotions out the door with her if you are, you know, living that type of lifestyle, and I'm I'm like not sleeping good after that because I feel like I had no pure intentions for this person.
Speaker 5And this person is also late.
Speaker 9You know, thirties or you know, mid thirties and they got a life, and so like when you got you know, when you're young and you're dealing with a young woman, ain't the white tripman, It's all good.
But when you're older and you know that that woman has trauma from her past relationship and all of that, and you know, you dinner is cool, going out on the date, it's cool.
But then once you start getting intimate with people and you know for sure that they are invested in you even a little bit, and you know you have no you know, you know you ain't talking to this person after tomorrow.
Speaker 5Man, you carry like, you know, you just feeling it.
Speaker 1Thank you for cutting off Matt Barnes, because that's the last person we want to hear from with this conversation.
The man who at the top of the year just cheated on his wife with eight women within thirty days, all found out by a private investigator.
By the way, let's not let's cut off.
I don't care that he's on the Black spect network.
I don't know a fuck.
Speaker 5You got cousins that do shit.
Speaker 1He isn't well into his forties, still cutting the fuck up.
Speaker 2I don't give a I'm.
Speaker 3Glad that you He was like, yeah, man, you you know what that reminds me of you remember, by the way, by the way, not only is this a table.
Speaker 1First off, let's talk about the messengers the game is saying this the game who if you guys are unaware, just welcomed a new baby into the world with Evely Lozada's daughter, the same man who publicly was out here full blown relationship out of uh teenageers.
Then we have Matt Barnes already said would have to say about Barnes, not sure about Dion Cole or big Boy who's also at the table.
But then we have motherfucking uh Kirk Franklin who don't like his gay son.
Speaker 5So this table.
Speaker 1Brouh and so it's it's it's like this these group of men that, well, in today forties you could trigger me after I get I've already triggered because because what this, what this clip essentially is saying to all the women out there, you bet if you're dealing with a nigga under forty, he gonna waste your time.
Yeah, because these niggas don't know no better.
But then also based on the table, when they're in their forties, they still gonna waste your time.
Since, because what are we talking about?
Like at his big age of forty, Evelyn Lozada's daughter still don't have a ring on her finger.
You made her a baby mama.
Speaker 5Another one another one another one.
Speaker 1Like in terms of Matt Barnes, you left your you have a wife right now who's now a single mother, divorced, say of fucking five children that she's now raising by herself.
Speaker 4I feel like worse than the action is like the like the almost like the reward he wants for the awakening, Like it reminds me of like do you want to Oh wait, that's what it's like that it's like that Chris Rock routine where he's like, I.
Speaker 2Take care of my kids.
Speaker 4Yeah yeah, And it's like he wants an applaud for and it's like, yo, that's baseline.
Speaker 5You want to have a.
Speaker 1Pause for the acknowledgment.
Speaker 4But if you that's nothing, that wasn't that deep, but bro, But also that was like if you genuinely, if you genuinely felt like that, if you genuinely knew better, you.
Speaker 1Do better, and you wouldn't have just made another baby mind mind you.
I think Evely Lozada's daughter might be thirty one so still early thirties.
Let me look that up.
Actually, I'm gonna look it.
U.
I'm gonna look it up.
But he's forty five, and like that's something he should like.
Speaker 4Again, good, good statement.
He said much better if it was like thirteen years ago.
Speaker 5Well that's the problem right.
Speaker 1By the way, just turned thirty two.
Speaker 5Okay, well yeah, but that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 7Jay, is that like, yeah, he didn't say he didn't say anything wrong, But you have to consider the messenger, because I guess one question is like, Okay, what does those words sound like a good thing?
But like I think what we gotta get to in society in general when people say things that okay, yeah, that sounds like the dude, but what does that.
Speaker 5Look like in practice, practice and in practice?
Speaker 7I guess my question is if I if I came up to the game and was like a nigga with a hose at, you would point me.
Speaker 5To the hole.
Speaker 7If I said a game, I got follow me, follow me, come come bride you Jason.
Speaker 5I'm a Jason.
Speaker 1By the way, By the way, I do like the game.
This isn't no no, no.
Speaker 5Here you go.
Speaker 2I was like three, but I like the game.
Speaker 1I like his music.
If this was on mute, I would still watch it because he looks good.
He's a he's a fine brother.
But to me again again, back to the Messenger at the age of forty five, at this shared table of men, I just feel like we're in an echo chamber of men knowing how to say the things that maybe we want to hear.
Again, the acknowledgment of it is there, you know it, but the practice is not.
Yeah, we're not seeing men execute or practice the things that they actually know, which is why when I open up, I was like, damn, a lot of these niggas do know that they know.
So it's not like it's not.
What it is is selective ignorance.
Here you go, you know better, you genuinely don't choose to do better.
And in terms of dating and wasting women's time, this is a constant thing.
It's what kind of and I don't know if we even got to talk about it, but it's the same conversation around Big Sean being with Jane I ego for ten years and not doing what you know what I mean.
Speaker 5Yah, I want to bring our big sister Grace.
Speaker 1Here we go.
I don't like that.
Speaker 5I know, but we don't even got the same daddy, so I don't know.
Speaker 6But look what if the game perspective has changed in how he maybe he had a self reflective moment in that interim of having another child where he's able to sit on the platform now and say, hey, I'm evolved, I'm dumb, I'm doing the work.
Speaker 5Maybe he's in therapy.
Speaker 6Maybe that's how he's able to and and to articulate that.
But to your point, I think we still have to now that he put that out there, let's see what happens the next twelve months ago live that right, And once you put yourself out there now saying that you corrected your ways and you have compassion and you understand, you know where you landed with these women previously, then I want to see the growth now.
Speaker 5I want to see the growth.
Speaker 4The growth would have been him saying that and then also saying like, and we're engaged, and we're.
Speaker 2Engaged to have a family.
Speaker 6What's the example, right, Because there's other there's other kids or the other gentleman young men that follow him that that hold his words to a high.
Speaker 1But to reach this place of awareness at fucking for.
Speaker 5That right, and that's yeah, bruh.
Speaker 4With a thirty two year old girlfriend, like like you know, my thing is It's like when when again the notion.
Speaker 1That's his girlfriend.
Speaker 2What he said was what.
Speaker 4He said was good, right, like in a vacuum, what he said was good when when men say this, the partner that pisses me off the most about it is like ye, like men know how to like men like him know how to get pussy, right, and that's different hard and that right, but that but that's different than like getting a companion.
That's that's different than getting a companion or starting a family.
And it's like like just knowing women, right, like the if you have kids or and game has kids, so he knows this.
Yeah, if you're a woman and you're over thirty five and you're pregnant, that's considered high risk.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 4And so again, like the Big Sean and the jene Aiko, it's like men will lead these women on for years and then they're like thirty six, thirty eight, forty two, and then they're like peace and then they leave and it's like all right, cool, So now this woman has to start all over, right, Like if she wants to start a family, it's gonna be high risk.
And it's like, yo, you like when she was in like certain years where she could have had this family and listened to all this shit that you were saying, like you was just bullshitting.
You was just bullshitting, And now you're putting her in a position where it's just making her like harder.
Speaker 2And so it's like for him to say that now at.
Speaker 4Forty five with this thirty two year old girlfriend or baby's mom, like, we don't know what it is.
Like That's why I just feel so empty, And that's why it doesn't feel like a moment where he like educated people like a lot.
Speaker 1Of these words that are spewed onto these mics feel empty, like because they come again from spaces where it sounds good but it's not being practice.
And so for me, when I saw that clip, I was just like uh.
But then again I also was just like damn, so do I need a skew older?
And then forty five, like does a man not realize like this until later?
Speaker 7I think you got to take it on a case by case basis because I think there's there's some men who you know, I know they might to women, they probably don't feel like plentiful in the dating pool.
But I think there's some men who know they want to get married, No, they want to have a family, and whether they find that person or not at whatever age, that's up to them in the universe how they connect.
Speaker 1But have I want to know just.
Speaker 5Quarter it?
Yeah, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 2I was gonna wear quarters.
Speaker 5Some call hans.
You know what I'm saying.
Well, if it didn't have the like the continuing zip.
Speaker 1Oh wait, you're talking about just the zipper that comes from the titties.
Speaker 5A teacher that would you date a fifty five year old teacher?
Speaker 2About a principal?
Speaker 5A principal, Yeah, he had to be a principal to own the school.
Speaker 7School administrator se man walking with a swede elbow patch.
Speaker 5No, I can't imagine.
Oh, you know what.
Speaker 1The last guy I was with with seventeen years my senior.
I don't mind older guys, okay, but also he.
Speaker 5Had a lot of I'm learning to do okay, but he read Corduroy.
Speaker 1Blazers, Corroy Blazers.
Speaker 5You never dated to do that, will Wallabies Clarks, I.
Speaker 1Don't even know these words.
They're trying to give you a different, different example.
I don't even know.
Speaker 6We're gonna say, you would clarks are and then he probably dated somebody.
Speaker 1That Wallaby Clarks.
Speaker 5Yeah, wallabyes is the style of it, Clarks of the brand.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know what it is.
Speaker 5That's a type of for sure.
Speaker 2You know that you see in Brooklyn, Like God, yeah, there's no way you lived.
Speaker 1I never even dated a guy in Brooklyn.
No, I don't look at niggas in Brooklyn.
Speaker 5Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1What I don't like Brooklyn niggas?
What?
That's not my ignorance, I'm aware.
Anyways.
Anyways, speaking speaking of Brooklyn, we're gonna talk about rabbis.
What transition.
Speaker 7Rabbis is crazy, that is wild.
Speaker 1Listen flies for men, Listen, listen.
I told y'all, if y'all listen to all the episodes, Like Brooklyn was the first place I saw.
Speaker 2The Hasidic juice.
Speaker 1Okay, I got to see the little hats with the curls and the skirts and the wigs like that is a whole You know, they got their own school buses, hospitals, like they closed down based on when they want to close down.
It's crazy.
But let's get into our thoughts.
Young Thug recently sat with a rabbi.
We've also seen their celebrities do this as well, such as Kanye Kyrie I wasn't aware of, just does Sean Jackson, which again is another form of eagle Ezeia Banks.
We just don't even need to talk about her as we kind of can't because she doing some goofy ship too.
But Young Thug sat visited a rabbi and asked for a spiritual reset.
This was after clearly his release recently of prison.
And we have a clip for this.
Speaker 2Yeah, the audio is funny, but let's play it here.
Speaker 1This is crazy.
Speaker 2Who's talking?
Speaker 4That's the music there, but it's just it's just him talking to Rabbi Yoshi Yahoo.
Yes, yes, what is there?
Speaker 1Talk is there?
First off?
You know what's on mute?
Or is it just music playing?
Speaker 4It's just music playing.
Every clip of this is just music playing.
You can't they did it so you can't hear the cross talk.
Speaker 1What language are they speaking because the rabbi don't speak English.
Speaker 6Guy right there at this above his shoulder, he's translated translating.
Yeah, he's the same guy that was in The Easy The Easy Kanye when he visited the rabbit.
Speaker 5How you say whoop?
And Hebrew whooped.
Speaker 6Translating right now, telling him, you know, I thought that you can practice like Santadia.
There's other ways.
It's not saying that.
That's not an effective way.
I just don't know too much about.
Speaker 1But with the spiritual reset, does this mean they're becoming Jewish?
I don't know what.
Speaker 5Let me go back with Kanye.
Speaker 6He was he was asking for a toonement for things he said about the Jewish community.
Speaker 1He was, he was asking for forgiving.
Speaker 5Right forgiveness, and he was, you know, trying to correct with that.
Speaker 1I get right, what the is what is doing?
Because I thought, okay, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2Ignorant ad let it rip.
Speaker 1Shouldn't he be going to like Mohammad?
Speaker 5Because I'm like, how the fair that used to be the regular thing?
Speaker 7Like if you was a rapper and you got well minutes of fair cons that's when you got your life right and you start He chased his like some.
Speaker 2That's this is confusing.
Yes, it's confusing.
I was.
Speaker 4I just finished this book on John Singleton that my homeboy wrote, and there's a chapter with John Singleton the same thing, like it was going through some ship and he went to a rabbi instead of going to like a different type of minister.
And I was confused when I got to that chapter.
I was like, why would he just go to a rabbit?
Like why wouldn't he go to somebody in his own denomination?
Speaker 1Like that's but also what happened to?
Speaker 2Confusing?
Speaker 1Okay?
And maybe they don't align with the religion, but the Christian religion amongst us, I feel like it's still Christian and then Muslim for for our community, not you Jason, but for we can't super Catholic.
But why they're going to these outside religions that they're least familiar with, that their family members and friends probably are least familiar with.
But why why are they going to a pastor?
Speaker 5Mandy?
Speaker 4Do you think that they feel less judged if they go outside of their own denomination?
Speaker 1But that doesn't make sense to me either, Like in terms of in terms of what your religious belief system is or what you've probably been raised around, you would you should feel more inclined to go to that religion to ask for forgiveness or to have a spiritual resents the same way?
Who do we just see or maybe it was just like one of those influencers.
I just saw a grow man get baptized, right, or you go in pledge your allegiance to the church, like those are ours.
Speaker 6That all these you know what maybe maybe churches in Atlanta.
I'm going, Yeah, you didn't go get t Jakes, you didn't go get a pastor.
Speaker 7Yeah you didn't go to crestlow Dollar.
Speaker 2Y'a wouldn't think.
Speaker 4It's like like like a therapist where it's like you're trying to find you first.
Speaker 5He don't believe the probably listen to advice, but he just went to do.
Speaker 1He went to a rabbi.
Speaker 4But I wanted, like cleft Dollar probably knows who he is, so he's probably like I'm gonna go to farthest away from somebody who don't know who I am.
Speaker 5Publicize it.
Speaker 2Now, that's a good question.
Speaker 1Thug going away.
I choose my cleaners, let me go, don't listen to music because the job.
They go do the job.
Speaker 7But also is it a thing like again this is me being like Captain Cinical, but like in this time period, is there a chance that of just thinks let me align with someone Jewish and and that will I mean, if he's one of these niggas who and I can see Thug being one of these niggas.
Speaker 5Is he one of these niggas who think.
Speaker 7That like, okay, Jews run the world, Jews run the bank, Jews run everything.
So these are the most powerful people.
So I need to be within, which.
Speaker 1Is essentially, let's be very clear, which is essentially what we see Floyd Mayweather doing.
Speaker 5Oh he gave it up word earlier too, he did.
Speaker 7Him and Eric Adams are fighting to be the most Jewish niggas in America.
Speaker 6Right now because they both wild out.
I serve you as a New York mayor, Bro, bigger than that.
Speaker 7I'm your brother, Bro, You're the mayor of New York.
You didn't serve Israel as the mayor of New York.
Speaker 1I mean, Williams the biggest Israeli population outside of Israel.
Speaker 7I'm sure literally, but they in Brooklyn, they're not an Israel He didn't served, right, he didn't go to Bedford average.
Speaker 2Still it's still New York's interests.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 5So it's just like, I don't understand why you have to go that far.
Speaker 1I don't get it.
Speaker 7Have you ever had like a white homie who was like too eager to like defend black honor.
People like people accuse Rosenberg of this a lot, right, like Rosenberg something that happened in the black community.
Rosenberger goes super hard, and it's like, I don't know if you believe what you're saying or not, but you're just going so hard that it almost becomes a caricature ish to where it's like, okay, now that you shouldn't say the right thing, but like mis mis misinterpretation, Like it's like you're working over time to prove you're Dawn, and I'm just like, bro, you ain't got to do all of that.
Speaker 1It's just interesting.
I'm looking up right now to the musical references of a prayer or God in Thugs work, because I feel like he has aligned himself with Christianity and a.
Speaker 5Guy he never said yeaheh, not one time.
I promise you said by the.
Speaker 1Way, which is also crazy safe.
He literally thanks God and thanks Allah.
So there's two religions that you could have leaned on, and you chose to go be with the rabbi something on God.
There's a lot of records where he talks to.
Speaker 5God as a big rap fan.
Speaker 6I don't believe a lot of these rappers when they mentioned I think they just be saying it because they fit in the bar.
But I don't think they have it, and it sounds weighty indicatedence of whatever they're talking about.
They throw that in there as the word adjacent to some they're not Muslim.
It's just in the moment, like they'll do that ship.
I'm like, come on, stop it.
Just to your point, like you see the.
Speaker 2Performing, you gotta check them mathematics.
Speaker 1And I'm mad because as a thug fan, yeah, really wish him and a lot of these niggas would just stop showing up on my social media.
Speaker 5Just drop the music, making music bullshit making content.
Speaker 1But I don't want to see you sitting would a god damn Rabbi.
I don't want to hear you talk about therapy.
I just need you and you better have not gotten my good system right than scientists pregnant?
Don't you better not.
Speaker 5I'm shocked she's not pregnant already.
Speaker 1To be honest, there's rumors around.
Speaker 5Okay, I want to say, like I'll.
Speaker 1Be pissed anyways before we get out of here, let's do what am I ignorant?
Speaker 2Jason we're doing one.
Chill, We're doing We're doing one.
Speaker 5We're doing one, all right.
Speaker 4So do you want to do one boyfriend, one relationship one or one of family one?
Speaker 1Let's do family because we get we in the holiday season, all right?
Speaker 2So family?
Speaker 4Was it ignorant to refuse to split my inheritance with my cousins already?
Yeah, here's the scenarioguies cousins, right, They said, my grandfather my grandmother passed and left me twenty five thousand dollars, specifically me, not my cousins.
She lived with my parents for years, and I was the one who took her to her appointments, handled her medications, and spent weekends with her.
Now my cousins are demanding I share because family money should stay in the family, they said.
Speaker 2They also said.
Speaker 4Grandma was old and quote didn't understand finances when she.
Speaker 2Wrote her will.
Clearly only one of my cousins.
Speaker 4One of my cousins even said I manipulated my grandmother into leaving it to me.
I told them I'm not sharing because I actually earned the inheritance through years of caregiving and they never offered to help her.
Now the family's divided and I'm being called greedy.
Was I ignorant to keep their hands as is?
Or are they ignorant for acting like they were entitled to something they even entitled?
Speaker 5How many niggas is it?
Speaker 1But not only that it's only twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 5They don't go to economy.
Speaker 1That's like, that's like four cartons of eggs pretty much.
Honestly, when it comes to this, cousins are never considered direct family.
So in terms of wills and inheritance and stuff.
Speaker 5Like that, cousins because it's a grandmother, I guess they feel.
Speaker 1No, it's a grandmother though No, that's still.
Speaker 6Not saying that that's why they feel Selm saying, I think the person the grandchildren, there's a caregiver, a care giver, take her whatever.
Then they have to hold that like, yo, we acknowledge that you took care of grandma and it is what it is.
Speaker 5Plus twenty five grand.
Speaker 1Is twenty five grand right?
How many is well?
Speaker 6And usually when you're caretaker, your your your it's for equity in terms of the time and love, right, aint I.
Speaker 1Ain't gonna hold you playing cut them cousins off?
Speaker 5Fuck them, yeah, fuck.
Speaker 1Them literally, I don't think that you should feel ignorant for keeping it.
We are in a recession.
You need every every goddamn coin you can get, and apparently it's not every penny anymore because they're not making those no more.
But but you need like I'm not even gonna hold you.
I hate when people feel entitled to money if it wasn't left to you and the will literally said, this goes to me, bitch, it go to me, y'all feeling like I'm tired of to split it with y'all motherfuckers.
Y'all got me fucked up.
Speaker 7Yeah, I mean a, it's to your point, like it's twenty five grand, like I bought your niggas a steak of something.
Speaker 5Yeah, go to dinner and y'all.
Speaker 1Can get the wagon put out, ball out.
I'll go buy twenty Yeah, I would.
Speaker 5Go buy y'all a two thousand dollars.
Speaker 7Men, we go sit down and eat them all the good shit you every wanted to eat, and we're gonna go about a business and.
Speaker 1You have fun shitting it out.
That's all you're getting.
Speaker 5Now.
Speaker 7What I say is this, if the money, if there was, it was significantly more money.
Yeah, and you and you do love your cousin, these aren't your direct whatever.
But if you love your cousins and Grandma leaves you twenty five million dollars, then yes, cool.
Speaker 5Give them a couple of dollars.
Help everybody out the way you can.
Speaker 1And what am gonna give you fifteen hundred dollars?
Speaker 5Literally two thousand dollars.
Speaker 6And it probably doesn't meet the expenses that was put out, not at all.
Speaker 1And let's be very clear in terms of talking about people and when you give them stuff, right, he could have gave them fifteen hundred two thousand.
Do you know how many people will still feel like that?
Ain't No, it's never enough.
A lot of times when we deal with family, nothing you do is ever enough.
And so the entitlement that normally comes from our family members or our close friends or even sometimes our spouses, fuck them.
The entitlement is you can never do enough for some people.
And so again we don't know how many cousins, we don't know what you would have given them or what would have made them feel like like did they want to bust it down?
Equally?
Speaker 5You know what I mean?
Speaker 4I think people, I think I think people choose, like with your grandparents.
It's like, you know, you get older in your relationship with some changes, and I think they probably have like this idea of like what their relationship was with their grandmother, whereas like the person who got the money, like they saw a much different side where they take care of them.
So it's like to me, it's not even equal, like you were there at the end all that like that's just part traumatic, part hard work.
Like take the bag.
Speaker 1I agree.
I agree.
Well, you in this case are not the ignorant one.
It's your cuzins.
But we're gonna go ahead and wrap up.
I guess before we get out of here, I do want to let y'all know where I'll be for the rest of the month and shout some things out.
If you are in Atlanta, Jerkier, you can catch me and a king.
We will have a moment at jingle Ball on the eighteenth at the State Farm Marina, So if you see us, speak to us.
Also, if you haven't yet, make sure you get my book No Holds Bar to Doing Manifesto of Sexual Exploration and Power.
If you're looking to give it as a gift and you also live in Atlanta, you can get the signed copy from Weezy and I over at the Barnes and Nobles in Buckhead and yeah, yeah, go ahead and cop that, go ahead and cop that And what else did I have to say?
Speaker 5Oh?
Speaker 1If you are interested in joining me, y'all know I have been coined as now a Carnival chaser.
I am doing Kingdom Carnival in Ghana.
Speaker 5I will be there.
Speaker 1This is with the same group that I went to Malta with last year.
So shout out to Soka Abisa.
I will be there.
Let me give you all the dates.
April twenty third to twenty eighth.
Go to at Abisa Soca to get your tickets.
The link is in their bio.
But it's Carnival Kingdom Ghana twenty twenty six.
I will be there and again y'all are I'm really excited to y'all for y'all to be introduced two more of John and his thoughts.
Let the people know a where they can follow you.
And if you have anything going on before the year ends.
Speaker 7You can follow me on on Twitter, even though I don't really be there no more.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's shout the thread.
That's crazy.
Twitter turned into Walmart and threads turned into Target.
M m before Yeah.
Speaker 7But you can follow me on Twitter at a hip Hop Obama.
You can follow me on Instagram at mister hip Hop Obama.
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