Episode Transcript
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance.
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Now let's get to this week's episode.
This is Mandy B.
Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio.
Welcome back to another episode of Selective Ignorance.
You know, the show where we remind our business selectively.
Duh.
I'm your host, Mandy B.
And listen y'all.
This week we are talking about all the things I like to have a little fun.
So we're talking about destiny, luck and the power ball.
God's having a Midwest fetish.
Now, normally we don't kink shame, but at this point I need the power ball to stop dumping money into the middle of America.
Where rent is seven hundred dollars.
Can you give it to someone who actually spends money on rent.
We're talking about what we would do with the money if we were to win what just was one, which is half a billion dollars.
It's really interesting, right, and speaking of what you would do if you had certain choices, we are talking about the bad choices made by these goddamn owners of the Turkey Leg hut out in Houston.
Now, I am all for black ownership, but boys, it embarrassing when you find out that not only are they living America's dream, they're also peddling drugs and apparently hiding people who were kidnapped and are wanted on charges.
Jesus, Black people, stop embarrassing us.
When we get to a point of being happy supporting you just to finance you're doing the fuck shit.
And celebrities say the darnest thing.
We are talking about how men love to gossip.
Him Maker recently sat down with Cam Newton and managed to tell everyone how men love horrores.
But can't get past the fact that they're horse and y'all have a guest to break this down with me this week, y'all are gonna want to hear it.
But speaking of men doing bullshit, we are also leaning into equal opportunity land, where I am going to get on Mama D's as.
That's right, she decided to throw a little boosy type of party for a little Scrappy when he was under age and talks about not regretting hiring strippers, and then, of course Crappy said that it was traumatic and she still doesn't believe so, but we're talking about it.
We're talking about the men's behavior, and speaking of men's behavior, we are wrapping it up with talking about how everybody can be bought.
And when I say that, this week we're talking about Uncle Snoop Dogg, that's right, Love him dearly.
However, let's talk about hypocrisy.
He recently talked about going to the movie theater and being kind of like unaware that he was gonna have to explain what same sex parenting look like.
Just so recently drop a book with the same sex couples.
So we're gonna talk about whether he is gay for pay for the right thing, and not in that way.
He's not bending over, but baby, he is all for LGBTQ.
I a plus if the check is right.
So buckle up.
We're getting into it.
And as always, I am joined by my super producers.
I got a King in the Building podcast legend.
Y'all already know who although he is my friend.
Boy, do we disagree on a lot of things.
Speaker 2He'll hear the show.
I think we agree on most.
Speaker 1You know what's crazy?
Your mind just kind of when I think my mind works different, Your mind works real different.
Speaker 3Y'all, just take different streets.
Speaker 1There we go, There we go, There we go.
And then, of course, y'all, we have journalism Puerto Rican Jason over there as well to lend us all of these journalistic expertise and back, because boy, I love having someone with a real journalistic background, because baby, I just got opinions.
I didn't go to school with this shit.
Then of course I am joined by someone and I like to introduce people that I think are more problematic than me.
I am joined by my cousin over on the Black Effect Network, hosts of the No Ceilings podcast and recently released an EP banned from blad TV, and we're gonna talk about that too, because if it's anybody that should be banned from a lot of things, it's actually you.
So y'all, I have glasses Malone joining me.
And this was crazy because we've shared space before.
He's come on decisions decisions, but back when it was horrible decisions.
So we was talking about some pip shit and shit, and then we just shared Brilliant Idiots.
That was my last time going on Brilliant Idiots.
By the time, never going on there again.
Speaker 2Why not?
Speaker 1Yeah, the audience is now a flagrant audience and they don't want to hear what there talking.
They don't want to hear women talk.
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 1They don't want to wait, do they want to hear you talk?
Speaker 2Sure?
Speaker 1I got to read the comments when you're on there alone.
I'm telling you, because if they want to hear you talk, we can't hear us talk.
Yes, it's a woman thing.
Speaker 2It's not a woman You skew specifically, that's crazy.
You know, you skew to a specific group of women.
Speaker 1I skew to a specific group of women.
Do you not skew to a specific group of men?
Not everybody agrees with you.
Speaker 2But it's not agreement like it's tricky.
It's more than that you you represent a niche group of women.
Speaker 1Wow, I represent I represent people, first off, men and women because I hold both accountable, and I represent people thinking for themselves.
I represent people standing in their truth, having an opinion, and being able to back that shit up.
Speaker 2But you got to be able to be okay with people being shamed for their decision.
So shame people for that decision.
Speaker 1But I guess that's the point.
Who the fuck is you shame?
Speaker 2How are you?
Speaker 1No?
Speaker 2No, no, I didn't shame you.
Speaker 1I didn't shame you.
Speaker 2You're boring?
Speaker 1No, no, no, that's not shaming somebody.
Speaker 4You.
Speaker 1Being boring is a character trait.
That's not a decision you hate.
That's the decision that I'm not calling you boring.
By the way, I don't know why he just threw that edgetive out there.
I actually don't think you're boring.
I think you're really interesting, an interesting, different person.
Speaker 2I think y'all come from the same not from the same car.
No.
No, I think in our culture we need provocative voices.
Speaker 5Okay, So when we mentioned in the previous episode about let's say Stephen A.
Speaker 2Smith.
You guys are not like that, but you you.
Speaker 5Hold weight in the space of opinions and ideology that in perspective that we all should listen to glass.
Speaker 1Who do you think you speak for?
If I have a niche audience of the women, who do you.
Speaker 2Speak for the most part?
Speaker 1Oh?
Speaker 2Jesus, But but.
Speaker 1That's what you're speaking for?
Speaker 2Sure?
Speaker 1Gang members?
Can I get a broader can you expound on that?
Speaker 2Okay, any poor black man from the ghetto.
Speaker 1There we go, thank you because I got specific Yeah, okay, you can't.
I find it difficult for one person to be able to speak for both honestly, So to me, I like the other.
Speaker 2Okay, do you know this politician?
Speaker 1I mean, Jesus, what are we gonna start with?
An update?
Let's get it get into an update.
What's up with you recently?
Lately?
Speaker 2The pod man, there's no silingssed off lately?
Somebody every week is somebody else?
Speaker 1Who was it last week?
Who did you piss off?
Speaker 2Uh?
Academics was pretty irritated.
Drake has been pissed off at me for a while.
Speaker 1Damn for you know.
That's funny because we have a segment called double down or take it back?
And I literally, first off, before we get into this, what is your beef with Drake?
I don't have a beef with you, just don't like him because he's light skin.
Speaker 2I love Drake, He's awesome, he makes awesome records.
Speaker 1Is it because he's biracial?
I want to know, like, if you and Drake have been you know, or you've been speaking down on Drake.
Speaker 2I never spoke down.
Speaker 1You've never spoke down on Drake in your entire life.
Can you pull up the clip?
I would like to distinguish what talking down maybe means, because we'll play a clip in a little bit, but I'll let you explain it.
Speaker 2So when I'm saying he's not hip hop, that's not talking down on him.
Speaker 1Okay, let's play the clip and then we'll get back at about he's a fantastic record maker.
He makes some good rap song.
He's a fantastic record maker.
What chron was saying he's not hip hop?
How is that meat?
Insulting him?
Speaker 4Because it can't be the He can't be the goat and the King if he's not a part of it, the.
Speaker 2Golden and king of what ho?
What is hip hop to you that the urban culture personified through the arts or elements, that's Drake.
So if it's not street, it's not hip hop street urban culture.
So the culture created through street urban people, right through the arts and elements, you know.
Speaker 3Is his music and him not a derivative of street or urban culture.
Speaker 2No.
I think he's like Mdonnie, He's like Madonna.
He catches the trendiest things happening in urban Yeah, and like urban music.
And you know, remember how Madonna used to do that.
She would kind of take like a funk idea and make holiday where you be like, damn, that thing is kind of funky, but it wasn't at about.
Speaker 3Okay, not y'all both, but.
Speaker 1Yeah, okay, can you say you're first?
Speaker 5Because I have my thoughts based on what glasses to define as the requirement when you talk about the elements of hip hop, I don't see his music is art fitting the elements that you made reference to.
Speaker 1I think I'm just saying for that particularly, and I think that's my problem.
Right when we get on these microphones the five elements of hip hop, Well, according to actual elements of hip hop, it's djying, MCing or rapping, break dancing, or b bowing and graffiti arc So you know, you defined hip hop how you want to define it, and I think that that's what we do when we get on microphones.
The actual elements aren't what you're about to say and not what he just said.
Like hip hop, if we talk about it too, it's what we've been talking about in terms of female rap, right, we go from women rappers don't talk about street elements, but they're defined as hip hop artists.
So it's weird that now we right, no, but I was gonna get to MC light, you can get to RAHP City.
We talk about what they rap about in comparison to what Lotto, Sexy read all them rap about.
Right at the end of the day, none of them are talking about street elements, but they're hip hop.
So when we still not street elements them niggas, oh wait, glow is.
Speaker 2Yes, cool cool.
Speaker 1I heard a lot of I think that's yea a lot of them.
Speaker 2Like, for example, what's a street element because I don't recall, but.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying.
Well, that's what I'm saying based on that clip.
It's about the streets.
The streets in terms of where they're from.
The culture they're talking about and things like that.
Speaker 2I think what's really it's expressed through those five elements.
Speaker 1Right, But those weren't the elements that you brought up in that clip.
Speaker 2It's the culture execute it through those elements.
Okay, so there were DJs before hip hop.
Okay, yeah, no, hip hop didn't no course, no.
Hip hop didn't invent rapping.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2Hip hop didn't invent graffiti, hip hop didn't invent dancing.
It's how you do those things, right, That's what street are.
It's the culture created by these people that becomes expressed through those elements that makes it hip hop because other than that, anybody dancing would be anybody dancing.
Speaker 1I think for me, hearing the niche audience that you said you represent and how you're not wanting to identify Drake as a hip hop artist, leans more are into you viewing hip hop and the culture of black people from a poor street perspective when I think black people as a whole are not a monoliths, and so to me.
Speaker 2What would black people have to do with this?
Speaker 1Well, well, I guess and maybe I am tying you saying the word street to black and that's why I'm That's why I'm saying.
Speaker 2No New York streets are.
They may be influenced most by black people, but there were tons of people and Latin people there.
There are some early white people there.
So it was the behavior of these people right, how they did the thing that created hip hop?
Speaker 1Can I ask you, what, then, has Drake spoke about that removes him from the hip hop label.
Speaker 2It's not something he spoke about that removed him.
He never was.
He was always a pop artist.
He always approached making music by whatever was popular.
I'll take that.
I'll take that, and I'll make this version that's digestive for mainstream people that started.
Speaker 1I would say after views though.
Speaker 2There's nothing about Best I Ever Had that's culturally anything.
Speaker 5Okay, I want to say one thing that comes to mind, because you just said before, there is a part.
Speaker 2Of me that feels like.
Speaker 1He was straight hip hop.
Speaker 2It was d no no when he had.
Speaker 6But if he cherry picked Best I Ever Had, that obviously is a before that when.
Speaker 2The pea coat on, was it right for improvement or does that come back come back season?
He was he was.
Speaker 5I think this is where the Fonte influence Little Brother came into play.
Speaker 2How he used to rap before he hit made emulating emulating something or having j Dilla beats doesn't make it hip hop.
Speaker 1But I think, I think, but I think having that one song you're going to best I ever had.
You have jay Z record, a jay Z record like change clothes.
Technically, if you're talking about songs that have pop elements or singing elements and things like that and removing it from hip hop, if you look at the rest of Drake's discography, whether he's singing, rapping or whatever that was, it's still hip hop.
Speaker 2Mary J.
Blige sings, it's not these elements.
It's what he does with hip hop.
Just to be clearing for she's deemed the queen of hip hop soul, right, but then you add the word.
Speaker 1Soul to it, which makes it not straight hip hop.
Speaker 2I mean, it's hip hop period, even though even if we're saying it's not exclusively her street urban cultural elements are obvious, right, how she expresses herself, and that's why they can say it's soul.
Speaker 1So then let me ask then that comparison.
If we're giving Mary J.
Blige the runway to be a hip the queen of hip hop soul, why can we not just apply that same title to Drake and add the soul at the end, and now he's hip hop context.
Speaker 2Mary J.
Speaker 5Blige's content in in what she talked about in her hardships, whether it be relationships, there's a soundtrack element of it.
Speaker 1Music even got the soundtrack to My Life to come on, he doesn't, he has the soundtrack there.
But he was poor.
That nigga was like, Okay, maybe the grass he didn't like.
Speaker 6Where even even if he wasn't poor, Even if he was not, and I'm not I'm not defending you.
Speaker 3I don't want to act like poor.
Speaker 1Okay, even if not, Let's say Mary J wasn't really singing about her real life.
Okay, So then let me ask you all that is that what we're talking about.
They have to come from a certain.
Speaker 2It's the cultural how you throw gang signs now though his big age bro, come on where that comes from.
But before we go into because I don't want to back, don't well, I've been just my whole life.
I've been doing that since I was Hey, Okay, what I'm saying is right is it has to be authentic.
Speaker 7Right.
Speaker 2I was looking at this really funny clip from this guy on I G and he was talking about Save the Last Dance, right, and he was saying, how the whole movie he poked at the movie, how they saw hip hop like she saw.
Speaker 1She went to this literally eye.
Speaker 2So she passed.
And it's horrible.
Speaker 1It's written well, it's written well, but will you go back to it?
Speaker 2Elbows, elbows?
But this is it.
So it's this young white woman.
She's trying to get into this exclusive dance school.
Her mother passes away, she has a bad day dancing, and then she has to move with her father on the South side of Chicago.
So she ends up at this all black high school.
She meets this sister, and the sister takes a liking to he and helps her out.
And she sees somebody dancing to music.
She said, what is that?
Oh, that's just a little hip hop.
That's how Drake sees hip hop.
He sees it as something that any of these things.
Hey, I can be a West Coast guy.
I'll make the motto I'll put a lowrider under the Bay Bridge, even though it's culturally inappropriate, because he's not aware of the nuance of culture.
Right, I can.
Hey, I started from the bottom, right, here's my timbulings.
I'm in this snow.
Look at me.
I'm New York.
Hey, your bottom is not.
That's not what we're talking about when we say the bottom.
Now, I'm not knocking anybody else from having a mainstream approach.
Drake makes fantastic records, but he makes him from a pop perspective.
He has from the beginning of his career, not since he started trying music, but when he decided to make a career and he went professional.
He's always took whatever was at the top of culture and said, I can clean this up more.
You know what It's like.
It was a it was a white guy in Downy and he saw all these taco trucks doing well.
He was like, Man, this Mexican food thing is incredible.
It's a guy Glenn.
He's like, this Mexican thing, I have to get in on this.
And he's like, but if I take some of the seasoning out of it, you know, I can make it digestible for everybody.
Speaker 1Hence the birth of Taco Bell.
Now, while Taco Bell is.
Speaker 2Very much an American cuisine based off Mexican food, it's not Mexican food that's Drake to hip hop.
Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Speaker 1Said Bell, it's crazy.
Speaker 2It is, it's it's the most popular, dude.
No, like Kentucky Fried Chicken, Chicken soulful, go ahead and the maneuvering.
They both do this.
That's why I say listen, it's a little bit of the way they be.
Speaker 8It's so.
Speaker 2Just think I don't read that books.
Clearly I gotta get shot man Chicken.
Speaker 1His mind is working like how a my worst right now?
It's crazy to watch because I don't like it because it.
Speaker 2Feel because it's emotion and it's not because like Fried Chicken is soulful.
Can we all agree?
Speaker 4No?
Speaker 2It actually Fried Chicken started.
Speaker 1Okay, okay, okay, but I ain't.
Speaker 2Gonna hold you.
Speaker 1The Koreans doing better, damn.
It's a good example maybe an example from so then Drake is Korean now Korean Fried Chicken.
He is Korean Fried Chicken.
So he did it better or like Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Right, so then he's doing hip hop better than hip hop artists are doing hip hop.
Speaker 2Subscribe he makes great rap music for people that don't have a soul.
Speaker 1Nigga, I got a soul and not like that.
Speaker 9Your soul is graz You have looked at me and Weezy and you and Weezy said on that couch, I looked into your soul?
Speaker 1Do you know your audience?
Speaker 2God?
Do you know your audience cussed me off because I told you to hold it till marriage?
That was like, how dare you tell her to preserve her marriage yourself.
Speaker 1As a woman who doesn't want marriage?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 1Who the fuck is you?
Speaker 2But how could somebody get upset that I'm giving you fantastic advice?
Speaker 1Can I ask you as someone who offered that advice?
As I looked down on your hand, it is bear?
Are you married?
Speaker 2And what was?
Speaker 1Are you holding yourself until marriage?
Speaker 2Yes?
Speaker 1Niggas lying on these motherfucker bike We're not doing this.
This is sorry.
What we're not gonna do?
Is it start off this episode where niggas stick we lying on here?
Speaker 2It's not possible.
Speaker 1Bro, Bro, he's a fucking liar.
Speaker 2That's crazy.
Speaker 1Oh is that what you're think of me?
Speaker 2That's crazy?
Man?
Bro?
Speaker 1What we're not gonna do?
Okay?
But you know what can we get into the next time?
Jason?
Dude?
Speaker 2I have Korean fried chick.
That's what it is.
Kentu he's like, the current.
Speaker 1I'm not playing with.
He's like, like the colonel.
Speaker 2Is crazy, and he's like, I see how they doing it, but I can add more spices eleven seasoned herbs and less when they be less spices though it was, but it is from our chicken, right, And he's like, this is going to be digestible for everybody.
And then may you'll think it's soul fool so many you go to Kentucky.
He's like, this is the best soul you know what's crazy?
Speaker 1No, it's not.
I make the best.
Actually I don't.
Speaker 2I don't.
Speaker 6I don't agree all the way, but the soul food and chicken example is so perfect for your argument.
Speaker 2That's yeah, for his argument.
Speaker 1We're gonna we're gonna say that he had a good way of arguing that down.
And now I'm a little nervous because what a king just said.
Yes, you explained things like me and you're not gonna make sense to a lot of people.
But I know you really believe what you just.
Speaker 5Sure, but I will say this many because this episode were approaching forties.
Now are may thirdy, you did say that Drake was gonna have the song of the Summer and we're now in the winter time almost so I'm just going to put that out there.
Speaker 3Happen.
Speaker 1We're actually on the episode.
We had an episode.
Speaker 3We had an episode.
There was there was no song of the Summer.
We decided no, there wasn't.
Speaker 1And what's crazy is you see them host beefing now they was just on stage ignoring each other.
Speaker 2Y'all, y'all didn't fel like, take me through.
Speaker 1There was it?
It came too late, it went, it went I agree with yeah, No, when wasn't.
Speaker 2No, it just wasn't.
I think that was it.
Speaker 1What the fuck is that?
Speaker 2I don't think.
I think it wasn't.
Speaker 5To me, I was, it wasn't critical mass.
It's still I mean talking about that still warming up?
Speaker 2You know what I mean?
What this song gang Gang?
Speaker 1What is that?
Speaker 2You probably heard it before, but it gives you a gang bang.
Speaker 1I don't play anything like that in my home.
Sorry, whoa do I gang bang?
Speaker 2This is what's ruining.
Speaker 1This is what's ruining our kids today.
Listen to like gang Bang, Listen that type of song and anything broadwave telling these kids to do drugs and kills.
I just I just can't believe this is what in a choke hold, like letting them, letting them believe that being depressed is the way to go.
Bro y'all, go get some therapy, y'all.
Speaker 2They're not really depressed, they're just crying for no reason.
Oh my god, that's just like everything is the end of the world.
Speaker 1Everything well, well, to be fair, if I go back and think about where I was in my late teenage years to say, early twenties, right, if I too had to go through a pandemic and not walking graduation, didn't have a prom I would be said too, I think they're all just it's all them coming from the pandemic.
I think the pandemic has such lasting effects on us that we really haven't tapped super into.
First off, the world is just way more expensive.
I was just talking to my homegrowl the other day.
I said, Bitch, twenty nineteen wasn't like this, was it eighteen twenty seventeen.
I felt more rich now when I was poor than actually having money and being able to exist now.
Like the world is just fucking different right now it is.
And speaking of money, how we're gettingcro things.
I want to lighten it up here in our segment of this is America, y'all, another mid Western middle American as white because no one of any other color or race ever win's this stuff to that or.
Speaker 3They white white had.
Speaker 1A self described homebody is now the winner of a record powerball jackpot.
The Missouri player who won half of a one point seven eight seven billion dollar motherfucking jackpot broke his silence this week, which I don't know why he won this back in September.
Maybe he's he's what.
Speaker 3You got to I think they forced you to know they don't they forced you.
Speaker 5I think you have to do something publicly as a proclamation that you.
Speaker 1You know why, because they want to make sure you die so they don't have to pay all this ship out to you.
Because get the fuck out of here.
This is the conspiracy that's really happening here.
How you gonna force me to tell motherfuckers I'm worth half a billion dollars?
Speaker 2How would you tell people?
Yeah, but you say you have to.
Speaker 1Oh, I ain't gonna I ain't gonna hold you.
I'm going up there with all the prosthetics.
If I got this money, I'm hiring somebody.
No, no, no, no, no, no, it's got to be you.
So what I'm saying is so what I'm saying is I'm going up there, y'all know.
Did y'all see?
And this is what I do when I watch TV.
Did y'all watch The Penguin on HBO?
I haven't watched it, but oh my god, so good.
Well he spent like six hours in makeup to have prosthetics to look like how to look more like the penguin, like his limp.
He worked out Colin Farrell.
Colin Farrell was the goddamn penguin.
So Colin Farrell is the penguin.
I wouldn't fuck.
Colin Farrell is the white man.
If I fucked white man, I would fuck.
And I was like, damn, that's Colin Farrell.
I would That's how I would tell people.
I would go and spend six hours in makeup.
Speaker 5And once you know you had the winning ticket, that's when you place the call of the homies, like, Hey, you're going about to go in front of me to the homie your friend?
Speaker 2What you doing?
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I'm going prosthetics, Jason, How would you do it?
Speaker 3So you have so I think you do have to be public to.
Speaker 1Go, but it is and so you're just showing up like this.
Speaker 6Yeah, because I think they I think they do.
Like the whole ceremony, like with the check and everything.
They hide your name though, So for this dude, they didn't say his name, but they say it's a man from Missouri.
Speaker 3So it's parts of it.
You have to go, bro, we.
Speaker 2Can't win that ship.
Oh, I know what you do now.
Speaker 5I just tell my one of my friends, my brother's like, hell, listen, you're gonna this ship.
You're gonna get the bag and then that's it.
Speaker 2I would have a parade.
I'll give you.
I'll give you.
Speaker 1It's funny because you said you.
Speaker 2I would have a parade for a week.
I would have the biggest party.
I would be buying food for everybody all week, Like I just turned the city out.
I throw my own parade.
Now we just booking my own parade.
I'm gonna take a float through l A.
Speaker 1I'm up.
Speaker 2I'm gonna just be throwing money off of it, okay away, Hell yeah, I'm not gonna I'm throwing money.
I have a float, a bunch of lowriders and Harley's following music playing.
Probably have somebody up there tied dollar sign on his base, jamming and singing and I'm just going through l A, just all the streets.
Speaker 1And this is why we're not getting reparations.
I told y'all, niggas will not know what to do when they got some.
Just like this.
Speaker 6Dude is literally in the presscott and the press release, he says, I'm just gonna do me for a year.
Speaker 1You know why.
You know why he said that because he only has a year left to live.
Speaker 2Maybe get don't I'm gonna do us for a year, graphic, I'm gonna just pop off.
I'm just gonna I'm gonna stop and random restaurants to just pay for everybody eat like that.
Speaker 1I like to l a damn Chris Shawl Womington is the low I love that.
Speaker 2And I'm gonna run for mayor.
Speaker 1Okay, so you're running for office as a half a billionaire?
Yes, so you continue to work?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Yeah, because now I could really fun ship up.
I don't need no money.
Like, you can't even bribe me.
You try to come in with a no, sir, this would be for the people.
Speaker 1I would win.
You would win.
Well, how would I not win.
Speaker 2And everybody else broke?
Speaker 10You can't?
Speaker 2That would be My whole thing is like, they can't bribe me, what can you want?
Speaker 1But no, you can't call people broke because then you're not gonna relate to the little class.
Speaker 2All my opponents, he's broke, he needs the money, he needs the money.
He's gonna get bribed, but they can't bribe me.
Speaker 1But tricky because also we do know that politicians actually their their salaries aren't that much like when people get into politics, they actually don't do it.
Speaker 2For me, but then they take bribes.
I think that was the issue with may Adams in New York.
Speaker 1First of all, that going to the strip club problem here outside.
Speaker 2So if I have half a billion dollars, you can't even bribe me, I would run on my own ticket.
I'd be talking crazy, what change do you want?
La?
Speaker 1You tired at the homes?
We're gonna fix it.
Speaker 2And then I'm gonna just go in there and just calls hell every day of however I got loan to live.
Speaker 1I would make life fucking hard for all the system.
It's weird because so half a billion dollars, so say five hundred million dollars, that's enough to not want any more money?
You don't think that first off, campaigning costs.
Money, taxes get taken out, your way of living will become more.
You'll probably want to always say at that amount, which means you always would want to get more money.
Speaker 6No, but he's doing it for a year, he said, youna, you right, they were gonna do, they gonna care.
Speaker 2I'm trying to get this okay.
Speaker 1So then running for all to say that, nigga just go enjoy like the world.
Travel.
Speaker 2That's what I would do too.
I would traveling to travel.
I'm not going nowhere, I'm going right here.
Matter of fact, I would be the mayor of Compton.
All them potholes, that's how I run.
I fix all the potholes.
You know, I got the money why every city got the mon.
Speaker 1I'm not gonna lie Atlanta the streets here crazy, I was.
It's funny because on my way here, uh my uber driver was like, oh, what county is this?
And so I looked up and he said, the money where is it going?
Because they going for the streets and yeah, literally.
Speaker 2So a place like Compton, I'd run for the mayor of Compton and I would just fix all the potholes and that that'd be my problem.
I would make white people's life a living hell.
And that'd be like, oh, he's just doing too much good stuff for so at least they have a reason to kill me in the year.
Speaker 1That's that valid.
You would give them a reason.
But you would help a lot of people on the way there.
Speaker 2I like that.
That's how you feel, me too.
Speaker 1I would mean to.
I would donate to schools and things like that, like I always want to give back for me breast cancer, uh research.
Speaker 2I'll just make a couple of people millions.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was about to.
I would do that.
I would do that, just a million dollars.
Speaker 5Yeah, and I'm pretty sure we all have people in mind that we would we have.
Speaker 1People in mind that we would set up and give money to.
And then yeah, I know the certain places I would send money to for research purposes.
So it would be breast cancer and it would be for non traditional college students like myself, Like I went at twenty four years old.
So anyone who chooses to do college where you have, yeah, that thought they missed out, like I'm all here for support and not continued education for non traditional students.
Speaker 2Also thought for people that miss prime.
Speaker 3Mm, that's a good one.
Speaker 1So they get lady like to me, what's probably no different than us being able to go to the club.
Now, like what's what's what's a good party?
Speaker 2Never get a chance to dress.
Some people never get a chance to be formal again in life, they like, so when you miss that, you know, coming from where we come from, not all black.
I'm not trying to make us a monolitht that's I'm saying black people that come from where we come from all over the country.
Right, Sometimes people miss prom and they never get a chance to get dressed, nice to ride in the limousine.
They may get nice clothes, but not that formal look of hey, you know, what's this whole?
I would throw the biggest prom for people that miss prom in Los Angeles.
Okay, it'll just be like it.
Speaker 1It just be do you have enough money to do it for more cities than just can we like broad in the scope here.
Speaker 2Where you start to inspire people, right because now other people in rich places can do it.
But I would really do right by where I grew up at.
I love that because I did this Orlando over here.
Speaker 1I got a little tap, but I don't really fuck with it like that.
I like New York.
I would do.
I would give back to the Bronx b X block, I would give back to the Bronx.
Ho here we go, here we go back.
Yeah.
No, I I really believe that New York shaped me more than than Orlando.
Like I was in there.
I was up there for formative years, having to like really live, like renting a room great.
No, no, no, New York, New York.
New York actually teaches you hustle in the jungle.
Speaker 7Yeah.
Speaker 1I think, I think.
I think for me it was it was interesting because when I go back home, I'd be like, y'all really just settling down here, like they don't know what more can look like or what more can be and.
Speaker 2So and more is overrated unless somebody like you that desires some people.
Speaker 1Like Okay, So here's my hot take on this, and Ebony K.
Williams got dragged last year for saying it.
The problem is no, not even a bount that I don't People don't like to admit that they enjoy being mediocre.
More is not a problem.
The problem is that people don't want to believe that they're actually okay with the bare minimum.
Well, when we as women and clearly my platform, we talk about what we get from partnership.
Right, the bare minimum is a bad thing essentially, right.
The problem is people like living with just the bare minimum.
They like being in mediocrity, they like being average, and those are things that people don't want to admit, and to me, there is a problem.
So I don't think that there's a problem with more.
I think the problem is that people don't want to admit that they're okay in mediocrity.
Speaker 2Well, okay, so I'm not upset at that, but I think the issue is one is women are naturally insatiable.
Nothing is ever enough.
Speaker 1We're not going to but I don't believe that we get pleased.
Speaker 2But mediocrity only could you know, being beating and regular can only be a thing if you're living your life to compare yourself, which is another woman thing.
Speaker 1Oh, comparison is the thief of joy.
So I don't believe in doing that.
Speaker 2So when you say mediocrity, it doesn't work that way without comparing yourself, because if you existence, you're achieving the greatest things based off how you live.
Speaker 1But I guess I I said that with you saying that the word more right, because I guess more would be subective subjective as well, so subjectivity.
Speaking of subjectivity, Hey, we're gonna talk about the founders real quick of Turkey Leg Hut.
Now listen, y'all had By the way, this is my problem with us.
They should have never made no money, period.
Nothing was ever good about stuffing mac and cheese and rice and beans inside of a fucking turkey leg.
This shit was terrible.
It wasn't good.
By the way, we want to act like we care about our our community.
Why are you serving somebody a meal that's four thousand calories, bro?
It's when I got it.
I looked at it.
It could feed a business.
Speaker 6Bro.
Speaker 1You want to be subjectivity close subjectivity, Bro.
That ship could feed a village.
And it was nasty.
That ship wasn't even good.
Anyways, we're bringing up of what took place because only in America, I have a news report.
Speaker 3We're gonna play in a little bit of a news report.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, let's let's bring in news report.
Turkey Lake Hut is back on the news.
Speaker 11One of the original owners is now facing fell any charges for allegedly hindering the arrest of a felon her boyfriend.
Speaker 3It was dating Box.
Speaker 11And Harris counting Criminal Courthouse with what exactly happened here, Leslie.
Speaker 1That's right.
Speaker 8Nikia Holmes is charged for allegedly letting her boyfriend stay with her while he was wanted for allegedly beating his ex.
Cor records say Holmes legitimphing Sason stay at her home in Cyprus while there was a Warren ivy his arrest, and Sator say beat his ex with a tire iron and kidnapped her at her home earlier this month.
According to court records, after officers saw says On at Holmes's home in Cyprus, they questioned her during a traffic stop, and she denied knowing him and told them he was not at her home.
Later, court records say during the traffic stop, a different set of officers who were at Holmes's home told her that Sason was seen jumping her fence, and then her story allegedly changed.
Speaker 1Now that okay, you remember how you said I speak for a niche group for women.
Speaker 4Bro.
Speaker 1No oh no, no, no, no, no, not a good question.
No no no, that was first off, I'm not I'm not dating who just kidnapped his X a month ago and beat her with a tire iron.
That's first off, you shared that nigga.
Soy, I get what I'm telling you?
Do you ready?
Speaker 2Would you hide your nigga?
Speaker 1First off, and y'all gonna hear it in an upcoming episode.
First Off, I'm letting you know right now, mister, I speak for gang members.
I am not a writer.
Speaker 2Die.
Speaker 1You're not hiding with me.
I'm snitching on you.
I'm giving you away if you do a crime.
I'm mad at you if you run a red light, because you know red means stop.
Don't run the stop side.
I believe in just living life.
There's some rules that just don't need to be broken.
I don't want to date a little rebellious ass nigga.
Speaker 2I don't want to.
Speaker 1I don't break whoa.
Speaker 2I don't break laws of white people.
Said the government rules all the morality subjectivity.
Speaker 1First off, you not gonna have lif no, no, no.
But they're to keep peace in order.
A lot of them are.
Yes, they're for peace and orders historical.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1What I'm not gonna do, though, is draw the line of hypocrisy, because right now we are fighting to keep our tenements.
Are amendments eleven nine?
How many of them are there?
That's a lot of them right thirteen.
You know that was like not, I get that, but but for me, number one is freedom of speech.
Speaker 2Man, so I want to make sure we keep that one.
Speaker 1But what I'm saying is no, I guy, I'm not hiding him, but I'm not lying.
Speaker 2You help your friend?
Would you hide your friend?
Speaker 1It depends what your friend?
Speaker 2Your best friend?
Speaker 8Oh?
Speaker 1First off, I say yes, you know what's crazy, don't do it?
You know what's crazy.
I'm too real, And I'd be like, but you still alive because you beat breast cancer, but you can't follow the law.
Speaker 2No, like she already broke the law.
Speaker 1Would No, if she broke the law, I'd be like, girl, you just.
Speaker 2What if she's like I think you would?
Speaker 1You know it's crazy.
Speaker 2I wouldn't.
Speaker 1I wouldn't hide her.
I think, Crystal, I love you to love you.
Look right here.
Speaker 2I think you would ship but I think you would.
Ultimately, you will do what you can.
Speaker 1And you know what's crazy.
I'm not risking my life for anybody, and I don't expect them to do the same for me.
That's why I said prosthetics.
Oh, I'm on the run by myself.
I'm an individualist, baby, I don't believe in bringing people down with me, and I wouldn't bring like I'm not being brought down by nobody.
It's why I don't got kids.
What if I birtha serial killer, ruin him my motherfucking legacy?
Because you want to go out and kill people, well, I guess I'll never know.
Speaker 2All you're done.
Speaker 1You never know because you know I'm not willing to take the risks.
But no, I'm not highing nobody.
I think this woman is stupid.
It's also crazy because the other former owner of Turkey Lake Cut Lindell, not only was charged with arson, but he also was running Turkey Leg Hut like a trap house, and he was running drugs up, up, in and out.
Speaker 5To the lady who got hit with the tired iron wish she at situation, I mean, first off.
Speaker 1You asked about the extra.
Here's the thing too, what they really was.
And this is where my mind goes, you really was in a polly relationship because you're not gonna tell me that this is your boyfriend, but he is literally dealing with charges only a month ago from beating another woman who was also his now now his as girlfriend.
Y'allways date each other at the same time, because you're also not hiding a fugitive that you've only been dating for a month.
Speaker 2That means you're a business or it could have been x like as in like a year ago, and then they still just have context.
Maybe they share a child.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying.
That means there's too many emotions still involved.
That means you really in a poly relationship.
If you if you date it, if you dating a girl and you got feeling still somewhat for another woman who's still currently in your life, who is bringing havoc into your current life, you're still in a current relationship with that person, whether the label is there or not.
Speaker 2And so you share a kid with somebody, your family, Yeah.
Speaker 1That's why everybody who is co parenting your family with other people, y'all in poly relationships.
Y'all just don't want to call it.
Speaker 2That not necessarily a poly relationship, but you guys are family.
Speaker 1It's poly.
Speaker 2It doesn't have to be intimate.
Speaker 1Y'all just don't like the label.
Speaker 2Intimate because it don't have to be an intimate relationship.
Speaker 1You know, in poly relationship, not everyone has sex, So y'all are poly relationships.
That's the thing.
Everybody he not holy ship.
We're not bringing this well, I'm gonna say you stupid, because why would you hide me.
Speaker 2I'm not really worried of the law is not the ultimate judge and morality.
Speaker 1Let me let me ask you.
Speaker 3Do you do you think?
Speaker 1No, it wasn't.
Do you enjoy your life?
So why would you risk your life for the decisions that someone else made?
Speaker 2Because that's what makes life worth living.
Speaker 1Oh, that's why you live life.
See, that's not I don't agree with that.
I live for my own happiness.
That's why fundamental difference is Well, it's weird because the idea that life is worth living for other people is also probably why I don't want children.
But this idea that you would risk your life, your happiness, everything you work for, the things that make you happy, because of the poor decisions of someone else, That logically doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2Sure, but that's like what being a crip is all about.
These are the people you grew up with.
Here's the cards you dealt.
These are your guys, and you try your best to help them get into the best situations, to stay alive, to stay free, to make the best decisions.
So sometimes You're going to run into people who make bad decisions, and you still have to coach them through getting their life back on track.
And sometimes you may have to break an occasional law to make sure they are okay.
But it's up to you to figure it out.
You have to come up with your own sense of what's right and wrong.
That's what cripping is all about.
Speaker 1I never want to crip.
Speaker 3I do.
Speaker 1I like the day you know I was, but I think it's because I like the color more.
That's like, if you really like, you know.
Speaker 2Some people told me I was born to be you know, I was born to be this because I like the color.
Speaker 1And you know what, now that I think about it, it also might have done with the fact that I am by racial half fight with no rhythm.
I just couldn't get the dance down.
I just couldn't my feet.
I think I have two left feet.
Speaker 2I seen you hit the TikTok with it wasn't good and I and I think that's probably why you feel like that the hardship on Drake, because you feel like that's your camaraderie.
Speaker 1That's crazy.
We're not gonna I just noticed that this.
Speaker 2We're not gonna do this.
I wouldn't.
I would have never knew that.
I thought you just right, you.
Speaker 1Would, you would.
The Canadian accent is all right, let's get into I like these topics.
It's gonna have us going.
We're getting into celebrities say the darnest things, and you know what, let's go ahead and start with this topic.
We actually just had off mic Oh God and so hit Maker, who is a good friend of mine, shout out.
I still call him Berg.
He's in my phone's bird, I still call him Berg.
Hit Maker was recently on this podcast.
Speaker 6You did his first one, I said, did his first rap magazine piece.
I wrote his showing prove from double way back.
Speaker 1Okay, do you want to know when I met Berg?
I was maybe nineteen years old.
I was in Orlando for Kanye Orange.
Guess who introduced me to Bird Bitch ray J.
Speaker 2I don't know how.
Speaker 1At nineteen I was parting with Berg and ray J.
But during a festival because they shut up, shut shot.
There's a lot of lived the life.
I lived a life, you know what I mean?
Where outside?
And actually I might have actually met ray J from Berg now that I think about it, But yeah, I think he is one of the most.
He has a different ring.
We got to have him on here too, because I don't agree with ship that comes out of that Nigga mountain.
No, no, no, you love him.
I think that he is.
We're going to go down in history his geniuses.
Not no Kanye, but the way that our minds think and the way we have the ability to create, to hold space for other people, to see people through all these lenses, like the way he's able to produce for men women draw these things from the samples, but also when you actually talk to him, he just his mind is fascinating.
But I don't agree with sh he says.
We disagree a lot, and he'd just be saying bullshit.
He said.
He asked me what happened to the fat Mandy because he met me when I was a big bitch.
He ain't shit like damn you all do, bitch now that you the lost weight and m bitch and I got money.
I was pooring fat when you met me.
Nigga.
Anyways, let me lift the sheriff.
Go ahead and what go ahead and play the clip of what Berg recently said on.
Speaker 2Kevin Karen Stephan.
Speaker 12Man Karan was like a really good friend, friendly motherfucker.
Speaker 1I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 12Like I ain't gonna lie.
I think she might be one of the most accountable women I ever met in my life.
Like she was so evolved, like she knew what it was, she knew what it was going on.
Speaker 2Like then, what was it?
Speaker 12Like we had a thing, like we had like a little five like it was it was so scary, like sit where like.
Speaker 2He's still Yeah.
Speaker 12She would be like she's so crazy like man Korea and please don't j just and please don't say that like that put thieves like I was a young nigga and like you put me on shit.
Like she would be so creative and just so like bro.
Like she'd be like, mean me at this bar North Hollywood and this that, and third, I'd be like where and I ain't had no money or nothing.
I wouldn't like a lit and nothing like that.
I was just really revamping my career.
And like we had go somewhere and it'd be like a dive bar to where they know black people in there, and we'd go in there and we had two drinks and she'd be like, what you doing and then she'd go fuck me in the bathroom or go fuck me in my car, and we had go to together like she was just like the most like incredible.
Speaker 2Like fucking.
Speaker 1This is why I described it like what you would want to have.
Speaker 12That type of history or whatever, like if you like she was so creative.
Speaker 4So this is where I put people on game to understand this about the relationship, whether male or female.
Everybody wants to be put on something new.
And that's not me saying somebody want to be bought something new.
So the relationship is all about experiences, yep.
The relationship that exposes or experience like you have the most experience with is like those are the ones like yo boom because like your eyes just like.
Speaker 2Blew my mind.
Speaker 12And I still think she's a great person.
I think that she had like some of the most intellectual conversations with me.
She was more like she was more seasoned than me.
Speaker 2She she had a life.
Could you take a girl like that?
Serious stuff?
Here we go wow, because I'm a judgmental man.
Speaker 12It's the same way that you would say, like because you data stripper or somebody like, ain't no way that a nigga could go see your whole inside of your puss.
Speaker 2It for two dollars on interest fee and.
Speaker 1I okay, So he said all those things.
She's this great womantive, evolved, creative, incredible, wild, special, taught me things I never like, said all these things and then said no, he wouldn't date her because you know, well, she wasn't a stripper, right he said, like he said, just like, just like a stripper, He said, like a stripper he was.
Speaker 6Because she and he ended it saying she was what you want to be.
She's she was what you want a woman to be who didn't have that history.
Speaker 2Mm hmm.
Speaker 1It's funny because on Decisions Decisions, I sat with Deontay and we talked about the same thing, and he of course said the same thing, that men care about a woman's past, and we went down the rabbit hole of that.
It's interesting to me because I think that this literally just stems from the insecurity of men caring about so much what other people think.
Because at the end of the day, he sat there and talked about her the same way that we've seen bow Wow talk about her, the same way Wayne has talked about her, And it's just like, what's crazy, is berg?
You sat there with Cam Newton who has eight kids, three baby mamas, or whatever bird you'dn't been.
He went down a list of women that you've been attached to.
It's crazy that these men can have the longest receipt of a history and passed with multiple women, but a woman that shows you all these amazing things is immediately damned by her actually having a past.
It's crazy too because it's it goes to the saying of they want a lady in the street, but a freaking the sheets.
How the fuck is the bitch supposed to become a freak if she ain't had some practice.
That's why I like Drake's song.
I can sorry the money, but wanted to ask.
I'm literally sharing a mic with three men, and I know y'all hate fucking me having the idea that no man could take you serious no matter what your past is.
But I guess I want to hear y'all's deep dive into man logic as to why this is.
If you could speak so highly of a woman in that way, why you couldn't get over that book to be happy with a woman.
Speaker 5Essentially, that would be in Young Birds hit Makers case.
He's in a particular different lifestyle where.
Speaker 2Karenne.
Speaker 5Her resume is public, so for him it probably it probably wouldn't serve him emotionally that he has to navigate in public with said woman with the resume out there.
Speaker 2Now, if he was a regular dude, he could just move the move I think it would help.
Speaker 1But no, no, no, no, regularly like to instead of instead of leaning this into which money.
Let's be very clear, celebrities do wipe hope, of course more than I think the average man.
But the average man, all they got to do is just move to another city.
Like I think, this is a lot more like it's happening a lot more than like when this happens, it's like eh.
But we see Kim k who's been married multiple times.
We see Amber Rows who's been with multiple partners.
We see how Maryland the road was with a lot of what glasses?
What I could keep going?
Speaker 2You know what you keep saying?
Speaker 1What am I?
That's why it never works out.
It's not just you're saying it doesn't work out because it's their past.
Speaker 2No, yes, it's not their past, yes, right, the shallow surface.
And forgive me, Jason, because I wanted to listen to you talk about this, But the shallow surface is yes, you're worried about what everybody else think.
The truth is what type of bitch could do this?
What type of bitch can fuck you in the bathroom?
What type of bitch could fuck everybody in the bathroom?
Speaker 1Not everybody gets fucked in the bathroom, yes, no, no, no, I have niggas.
I haven't fucked in the bathroom.
The only certain it's it's help for special, specialist plural.
Wait because it's plural.
Speaker 2Wait, what's health is certain because it's plural in the bathroom?
Well, what's the type of dude?
Speaker 1I mean, you gotta be special, special.
Speaker 6Special the bed not like it's a spontany of it is a special thing, right, like you don't expect.
Speaker 1But Correa was not just pulling anybody into a dive bar back or young.
Maybe he was special to.
Speaker 2Her, but the issue is right, the issue is what type of person does this, and that's who you're gonna end up with.
So while like Kanye, for example, everybody thinks Kanye is crazy, I obviously I did a song called Kanye should have Never Married that bitch.
I zeroed it in real fast to the problem.
People thought this his mother died, People thought it was money.
People thought jay Z No, it's Kim.
He thought that he was in such a powerful position.
He like, I'm a better nigga than all the niggas she's dated, I'm richer and I'm more famous and all this silly shit.
Think about it.
What type of bitch would sell a tape of her fucking a guy to the motherfucking porn companies.
Speaker 1Let's be very clear.
What I'm not gonna allow you to do is what Brady Daniels came here and did.
You are not gonna absolve a nigga for their mental healthness being demolished.
And I'm yes, I'm making up boards at this point.
Speaker 2But mental healthness is fire.
So I'm gonna rock with this and your credit.
But go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1You leaning into the fact that the downfall of Kanye was marrying a quote unquote or a woman that was willing to sell a sex tape.
Is is is insane and diabolical to me.
Let me let me tell you why, because we he his family, everyone around him has come out to share that he is unwell, in need of medication, is diagnosed, and has a lot of things neurologically wrong with him.
And the fact that you decided to sit your misogynistic ass up on my goddamn platform and blame a woman as to why he has crumbled and his downfall.
Mind you, Kim was Kim wasn't the first quote unquote ho he was with.
I don't think a woman's past ever affected him because he wiped up Amber Rose prior to that.
Who he literally got out the strip club?
Who knows?
And I know other people who've dealt with Kanye not gonna put their business out there.
But Kanye has a type.
He also went with Julia Fox, who there's like he doesn't care about a woman's past.
That might be what he does not care about it on her.
This man say a lot of things.
He's beefing with his twelve year old daughter because she's a woman, because she's a woman, she's a girl.
Actually not even.
Speaker 2Her daughters.
He thinks they're turning his kid into them eye of glasses.
Speaker 6Let me ask you something less the the but the whole at nineteen is going to be different at thirty six or fifty nine.
Speaker 3Do you think there should be superhead?
Speaker 1No, But we're talking about this the general, the general girl that is the problem.
The prolific.
Speaker 6So if we call it so, the super holes is a different class, right, So are you separating Kim from like Amber.
Speaker 3You're saying Kim is like.
Speaker 2Y is like a regular hole.
And I don't even know if she's a hole.
She's a stripper.
So I don't know what type of you know.
I can't say that Kim is on another level with her ship Kim Superhead.
They're like different levels of empowered women.
Speaker 1First off, for you power women, I don't think that there is anything wrong with a woman choosing to make hold on make he ate sex tape with her then boyfriend.
Speaker 2No, it's nothing wrong making it sex.
Speaker 1My point, it was leaked and sold by the Mama, not Kim.
Kim had nothing to do with CAP.
Speaker 6You don't think they were, Come on, Jesus Christ, I feel like Mama's consickly.
Speaker 5I think when you walk in that calib Blast's area, ship just changed in your whole.
Soon as you get this in the air, I don't ever want to do it's in the air, I'm telling you, listen, Kanye always been crazy.
I think the earliest versions of Kanye that everybody loved was the fake Kanye.
Speaker 2I actually love the real Kanye.
I love Kanye.
Speaker 1I watched Genius Jesus is Jesus, Genius Jesus Jesus.
Speaker 2My favorite Kanye West records are Ya.
That's my favorite one.
Right, Jesus is my second face, right, third is Pablo, and fourth right is life.
Beautiful life, you know, dark to hiss and fantasy.
Speaker 6I like the.
Speaker 2Everybody fell in love with the fake Kanye, so I'm with you.
I think he was lying in this like I'm the backpapper.
You see my backpack.
I care about black people.
I never bought that Kanye, even though the records were good.
It's like Drake, you know, I don't buy this.
I don't buy the culture you're selling me.
But the music is so good.
I'm jamming it.
I'm in.
And his downfall it's Kim Yes, because I'm telling you why he was already a fragile person.
Yeay is fragile.
While he's super strong with his abilities and talents and his understanding his fundamentalist views, he's powerful, but as a human, he's fragile ast fuck.
And when I tell you, a woman will break you into me.
She broke his ass into ten million pieces.
And every day we slowly try to watch him put itself back together since then, and never the puzzle never comes back to the full pitchure.
Speaker 1Well, because the puzzle is already missing a couple pieces.
I'm not disagreeing literally, but it was beautiful or literally his box, his puzzle was missing a couple pieces.
It's just weird to me.
I've sat next to you now, who is saying that a woman crumbled this unwell man who's diagnosed and just mentally not And then right Daniel sat here and said that men are criminals for women because that's.
Speaker 5What women do have power, women do have You have to listen, and that's only because all right power.
Speaker 1However, men at the same time believe that women can't be in positions of power.
Speaker 2No, that's white man's yes, No, there's only black man who listened to white people.
That's a white man.
Kanye No, no, no, he yes, I agree.
No, No, I'm with you on that, But I'm saying to you, that's so a woman.
Speaker 1Is not viewed as that powerful to men who don't believe that women should be in places of power.
Speaker 2That's his problem.
He didn't realize how powerful Kim could be in his life.
And she fractured his ship into one million pieces.
Speaker 1She kept him out of bankruptcy.
Speaker 2Like money is not going to fix his main.
Speaker 1Money is his main problem.
No money, it's money and pasting yet no ship in wanting to exist and align himself with these white men that aren't allowing him in the row.
But I don't think it has nothing to do with with women at all.
No, a lot of men who act like Kanye outside of his mental disorder.
It's it's men in wanting their proximity to white men.
It normally doesn't have anything to do with women at all.
Women women are disposable in men's lives like that.
Speaker 2I'm not disagreeing, But he was able to even assimilate further than most black men in the history of all black men.
So I don't think it was necessarily his rejection, even though I do agree that.
I never like that, which is why he likes this lady in the first fucking place.
Fuck you even like this lady.
He feels like she's his version of Maryland Monroe.
Nigga.
Why would a young black man in the eighties fantasize over Maryland Monroe.
Holly Berry exists, Janet Jackson exists, there's so many foreign systems.
Speaker 1Holly Barry didn't exist in the same time as Maryland nineties.
Speaker 2No, I'm saying didn't exists at the same time Holly Berry exists.
So how is your dream woman, Marilyn Monroe?
That's something he said.
So then he went and got a version of it with this lady, and he couldn't handle it.
And it's not just as simple as her past.
It's not just about what everybody else thinks.
It's more than that.
It's more of who she is that empowers her and allows her to do this.
It's a level of power that he may not be ready.
He obviously that he may not be ready.
Speaker 1Ladies, powerful women get you a powerful non insecure and non diagnoses.
There are men that don't There are men, Yes, you're saying, there's no men that except empowered.
Speaker 2Quote unquote, only white people that are cooks.
Speaker 1Black men can be cooks.
No, I've met black cucks before, but they can't be cuts publicly they're cooks.
Okay, maybe, but that's the thing.
To be fair, that's the problem with everyone.
We shouldn't be cared about what the people are doing behind closed doors.
Speaker 2But no, of course we should but it's okay, of course you got as long as you're not hunting, say it all the time.
Speaker 1As long as you're not fucking kids, animals or corpses.
Nobody should give a fuck about what you're doing, how you navigate, what things turn you on turn you off.
Speaker 2But all of this stuff people care.
But then you like me, right, if I walk in the room as a crip like I have, I care what people think, but I'm so secure of my cripping that I whatever I can express who I am, I'm proud of who I am.
So you gotta be a proud I love when my wife is getting that.
Speaker 1Cripping is different than sex.
We don't walk into rooms and immediately talk about if we eat ass and if we like this position over this position.
No, sex is not talked of in that way.
So like this, that's what I guess today.
Speaker 2It is, man, do we know about everybody talk about it on the podcast.
Speaker 1There's HR issues.
Speaker 2There's HR issues like.
Speaker 1You're not walking into rooms, but not even HR.
But there's a way to carry yourself.
Sex is still considered to be something that is.
Speaker 2Private, so when you make it, but like a thing happened, superhead it's not private.
Speaker 1Okay, is not private, but I guess we're going against Also, we've also brought in the average person, and so I'm talking about how men view holds are going through a whole phase, which is why you brought up someone at nineteen compared to thirty six.
I always still want to bring these conversations to the people that are off often listening.
Who is it.
It's not for us to say how young bird has the date or who he chooses to date.
He's a celebrity, he's a millionaire.
A lot of people can't relate.
So to me, it's still going into the You're saying the average person cannot get passed, that a woman had to pass that wouldn't be public.
Speaker 2But I'm not agreeing with that.
I think that's only one part of it.
You have to realize what type of woman that is.
That's not the traditional She's.
Speaker 1What we're all those attitives.
She's creative everything.
She's fine.
Speaker 7But you.
Speaker 2Know, to me to the bathroom, you know it's funny Jay, you know the one where he didn't use to describe her that good.
Speaker 1No, I think he said great, No, he holds up is above good.
Speaker 2No, No, Hitler is a great.
That's impact.
That's about who you are.
Great.
Speaker 3But he's not saying she's a good person.
Speaker 2Good.
See, they're not gonna say she's good no matter all these great things you showed me good.
Speaker 1All I know is when we talk about good and how that's a good man Savannah and he wasn't good so that nig it was a married man fucking on a whole nother woman.
So to me good good?
Speaker 2Sure, I agree, but but that's what the word he did.
Speaker 1Man call me great.
I want to go down in history and powered ass bitch that apparently Jim Kardashian.
Speaker 2And she's a great or greats.
Speaker 1They're greats.
They're fan like all time great.
You know, Now what are they great at?
You know what's crazy in English class?
Great?
You know the little arrow that you gotta eat, little alley get her mouth?
Great?
It's a both good.
Speaker 2So you said, what is she great at?
Great?
Products?
Speaker 1She's great, has a great vagin.
She's sold millions and millions of books.
She's great at a lot of things.
Speaker 2Relationships.
Do you know what about?
Speaker 4Yeah?
Speaker 1You know, she's a great whore.
And I think we should say that.
Speaker 2I think it should be a proud I'm not mad.
Speaker 1I think is more than such that.
Speaker 2Neither one is design, is more that what's going to lead in their existence is horring.
Speaker 1I can't wait.
So now we're going to talk about even.
Speaker 2Right now that horror really got people free from forgett me care because I'm not shipping to her.
I'm not, I swear, I'm not.
Speaker 5You know what I'd like to see though, on some futuristic ship, Jay, welcome me?
Okay, where we go a live stream marathon with Mandy and glasses, Oh my god, with the community.
Speaker 1I'm not gonna lie my heart.
Speaker 2The chat, the chat just running it up overnight though it can't be daytime.
It's just for the night time.
Bruh.
I would pay for that.
Speaker 1You want to do it?
Speaker 2I would pay for that.
I would pay for.
Speaker 1That streaming and is talking about all these things?
Speaker 2Do anything with you?
Speaker 1All right?
Speaker 2You're anything?
No, man, that's not what I mean.
I mean when it comes to creating content.
I'm well, I think you're content.
No, No, I mean creating.
I need you that.
Speaker 1You're speaking like a stream and speaking of boundaries and what should I did want to get into this clip as well a little Scrappy recently was on another horse podcast, Cannon.
He has a show called Were Playing Spades, and he recalled his mom and the gift that she got him for his fourteenth birthday party.
Please play this.
Speaker 7Clip fourteen sounding like that.
And she so, I have a four blong party and were in the hood, like you see the football.
Everybody came because they you know, we popular in the hood.
Speaker 1Said hey, come on, let's get it started.
A little whistle boom, put the girls out.
Speaker 2How about they got their parents?
Speaker 7Yeah, because the little girl, the young woman had striggles in there from my birthday.
Speaker 2The shoul girl and the real ladies and yeah, theron women and everybody came back.
Speaker 1Everybody came back to the door.
All the mama came back my ground.
Speaker 2She was like yeah, she was like, yeah in my house.
Speaker 7Yeah, you got you got a son in here that don't need to be in help please take them.
Speaker 2Call them out.
Speaker 1We get up out.
Yeah, we're doing something, you know, because then.
Speaker 7Look look look, and then all the girls came back and we continued the party down with Yeah.
And that's how we yea for my fourteenth birthday party.
That's the hell of a party.
I don't even know that was the party store.
I wouldn't even live I wasn't even looking for nothing like that.
I was in there like the whole time, like strippers.
Speaker 1I'm like, this is like.
Speaker 2Was I look back at it though.
That was traumatized.
Speaker 1So I think that's really the root of where men are right now.
I think that they had a lot of traumatizing experiences.
Speaker 2That was pretty special.
Anybody really that had that.
Speaker 1Yeah, Boosy's kids had that.
Speaker 2There's just.
Speaker 1This is what we're being able to hear of in public when we talk about the streets in the hood and the mentality of what makes a man a man.
I guarantee there are a lot more men of Southern I mean either way, Yeah, Louisiana and Atlansta.
Speaker 2Club culture is a big thing.
Speaker 1Yeah it is for me.
I think she needs to go to jail at this point.
Speaker 2Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1I think.
Speaker 2It wasn't like they slept with anybody.
Speaker 1I'm jail now.
Let's talk about let's talk about Okay, maybe because it happened so long ago, if that took place today and a mother brought strippers in to dance for fourteen year old boys, what do you think should happen to that mom.
Do you not, like, let's not talk about then in the past.
If we're gonna judge this act on what it really is in today, what should be the consequence for a mom who does that for their child?
Speaker 2Is it a crime?
Speaker 1Is it not?
Speaker 2I don't know.
You don't mean like like decency in front of a minor or something could be so that would be the crime.
Speaker 1A little bit of coercion, a little bit of.
Speaker 2Trying to match the.
Speaker 5Breaking of the law aspect, if any, because that's what you not the moral if you're talking about the moral standing on because I know you don't want to have a moral moral.
Speaker 1First off, morally, this is completely wrong.
Let's go So you're trying to lean into the law.
Speaker 2Yes, morally, where do I stand on it?
I really am because.
Speaker 5You mentioned the strip club being a South thing, but also churches too.
If we're just going by you know, the moral code, how how does that even exist?
Speaker 2That's just that's that's really a forty year old stripper party.
I saw I start thinking that fourteen was I looking at you?
That's what I think about thirteen fourteen, We you know, we started looking at playboys and stuff.
And if my mom threw me a full strip party, that would be a lot.
Speaker 1By the way, I love my husband.
He showed up and showed out, so legally, legally, since you don't want to go the moral route, it does violate laws such as endangerment of a child, corruption.
Speaker 2Of my veragement.
Speaker 1Hold on is pulling up.
Listen, I'm about to I'm about to bring it up.
And mind you, it has the states in which it two.
Oh, here we go, California.
You know where that is.
So no, this is a crime in California.
Here we go.
This would be harmful matter to minors, showing sexual content to minors.
So in California it makes it a crime to exhibit harmful sexual material to anyone under the age of eighteen, and penalties can include jail and fines.
This would also be in decency with a child, so in Texas, it's exposing genitals in a known presence of a child under seventeen, obscene or sexual performances presented to minors.
This would be criminalized in the state of Pennsylvania endangering the child and endangering the welfare of a child, corruption of minors.
This would be actually New York penal law two six zero point one zero, And then of course there's local and licensing rules that keep this from being so bottom line, hiring strippers for a party where anyone under eighteen is present risks multiple criminal charges.
Sure, so here we go, jail time.
Like I said, now, I don't know the set you will limitate.
Speaker 2It might not be jail time.
No, in Georgia, that's probably like it might be like probation, probation and a fine, a big fine.
I'm telling you.
Also, who a whistle blow?
Speaker 4That?
Speaker 1Because literally one of the other kids.
So that's what just happens.
So even at this specific party, they said, okay, all the age appropriate girls leave the room, let's usher in these grown women.
So the girls went back to their parents and told so literally the whistle blower one.
Speaker 2Of the I think we all understand that this is wrong.
Yes, right, because it's against the law.
Speaker 1Yes right, and morally it is also wrong.
Speaker 2So again, but I'm not disagreeing.
I'm just thinking you want to make no no, no, no no no.
I'm thinking to myself, like I saw playboys, I probably would be traumatized to even though I saw playboys, it makes me think it's a money called milk money, yes, and he wanted his dad.
His mother died and he wanted his dad.
This is a white movie.
He wanted his dad to find love again.
So they go to the city to see a prostitute.
Boobies okay, and this is like this mainstream movie.
And I was just thinking to myself, like if I would have saw some titties, I probably wouldn't have been this traumatized seeing four blown strippers at fourteen would be Atlanta.
Atlanta the best strippers, and Atlanta strippers are like left for sure the best strip This is their sex, like this is they don't have to give you no pussy and you got some.
Speaker 1See, I've lived in both cities, so maybe that's why you know slipperated.
I'll be going like, bitch, why I can't see no coochie lips, like when I go to a strip club and then bitch just got panties and nipple.
New York is the worst place ever for strippers, niggas gott I don't want to bro I were less at the beach than them, goddamn strippers wearing got damn New York And.
Speaker 2What do we do?
The point is she should be the point is.
Speaker 1This is why a lot of you men are misogynists, because y'all, the experience is if it wasn't strippers, it was that your manhood was tied to having sex, probably way earlier than you needed to, oftentimes with an older woman, and instead of viewing it as the sexual assault that it is, you're trying to navigate your hate for women because you weren't ready.
You were traumatized, and you haven't gone to therapy to lift through it.
Not talking to you, but I'm.
Speaker 2Saying, I'm a reasonable guy.
What's what's the decent age that?
Speaker 5What's the age that's the age of appropriateness for sex for a man?
You think, you know what's crazy?
Speaker 2To sixteen?
Speaker 1Every state is different in thirty plus states, and of course, cause niggas is nasty, they're trying to move it down to fourteen.
But white, white they're the only ones in charge.
They nasty.
Speaker 2You know, I don't want to wait too much, but I don't want to.
Speaker 3But if we asked the mayor over here, he's gonna have different loss.
Speaker 2You know, But what's an appropriate age?
Because not the law age, what's the appropriate moral age?
Speaker 5Because we all have access to access to it at different age.
Speaker 1I think the problem is it's not only access.
I think it's the conversations around it.
I think there's no education in school, and unfortunately, parents, even if they had a child at sixteen, still want to believe their child at sixteen is just not having sex.
So I think there's the delusion of the healthy conversations that need to be had around it that aren't had around it.
I can look back now, I started having sex at sixteen.
I can look back now I absolutely should not been having sex to sixteen for the knowledge that I had at the time, And so for me, I think that that's what it is.
I think that there just needs to be a lot more education and healthy conversation around it, like not that don't have sex because you're gonna get a's and die, or you're gonna get pronversation, like there just needs to be real conversations around it, specifically like a man don't like you more because you love them fuck, And I think a lot of women tie their own lie validation to me.
I would love to do.
Unfortunately, Trump is out here defunding all the programs that allow that.
So maybe when yeah, I gotta if you.
Speaker 2Should start making your content your sexual education.
That should be a decision.
Speaker 1Oh my fucking you.
Speaker 2Need to shoot a sex ad tape and sell it to school districts.
Speaker 1Schools won't buy it.
They don't want to see the way I want to teach it.
They don't want to teach it that way.
They still want to pull the banananas in the.
Speaker 2Part of you make it a part of your ship.
It will work.
Speaker 1I would probably have to be an after school program that would need a permission slip sign.
Speaker 2No, it would work.
Speaker 1We're not past that.
Speaker 3I would invest in this.
Speaker 2Ye ain't coming from you.
You teaching how you see saying way more informative and you Yes, your lens is totally there and just.
Speaker 1And I've been wanting to make a nonprofit.
It helps with taxing.
Look at me speaking like Dot'll get it to this last topic before we get into am I ignorant?
All right?
Snoop Dog recently doubled down with Glad.
That's right.
The Rapper teamed up with Glad for their Spirit Day, where he talks about his new children's series Doggieland, which includes gay characters.
Now.
Earlier this year, he went viral for okay, this is we're gonna talk about him talking about this book first, and then we're gonna get into what he recently went viral for earlier this year.
Speaker 2Right, we should have said Snoop got in bed with Glad.
That would have been good.
Speaker 1Snoop digging into bed with.
Speaker 2Spirit.
Speaker 3Let's let's let's let's listen and.
Speaker 11Record that my kids program Doggie Land presented me.
Where's the song where it's teaching love is Love?
Is teaching a parenthood, is teaching the situations that kids and the world is going through right now in a beautiful way through songs, dance, melody, and just trying to get more understanding clarity on.
Speaker 1How we live and the way we live.
Speaker 11And I felt like this music is a beautiful, you know, bridge to bring an understanding.
This is a program that we've been doing for years where we involve kids and these are things that kids have questions about.
So now hopefully we can help answer these questions and you know, help them to live a happy life and understand that love is love.
Speaker 6Okay, But Spirit Day, Spirit Days glads Anti Bullying Day for LGBTQ youth and they were purple.
So that's why Snoop had the purple hoodie on in a purple drag.
Speaker 1Okay, is this him educating himself and correcting himself in real time?
Or is it hypocrisy?
And I asked that because recently he went to the movies with his child and what movie was it?
Could you pull up what movie it was?
Yes?
And so oh light Year?
Is that what it was?
Speaker 3Yes, yep, so light Year.
Speaker 1So light Year.
They went to movies and within the film it presented same sex and it made him uncomfortable because his kids started asking questions and he was just bring kids maybe, and he was just like this.
So it's interesting that a person who was upset with his inability to explain this in a healthy way to his grandkids now is creating music that is saying that love is love and this is just how people exist.
So I want to ask, y'all, is this him correcting himself in real time or is this just anything for a check because a part of it seems like that for me.
We know that Snoop Dogg we talked about it earlier, was one of the performances during the Trump inauguration, because yes.
Speaker 2It was.
Speaker 1It was right right down the street.
And I'm just wondering, Yeah, what what our thoughts is on now?
Him doing a same sex couple's children series called Doculent.
Speaker 2I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 5Okay, the course correction comes with I would assume that that came from people around him when he made the error, say hey, look, okay, talent really And then in the course correction somebody was like, yo, you can monetize this thing too, right, because we do it.
Speaker 2But we do this right, We do this amongst each other, like.
Speaker 3Yeah, man's talking about her taxes like that was a.
Speaker 1Joke that.
Speaker 2It was funny.
Speaker 1Serious, Why do you think these pastors have churches so they ain't got to pay text?
These niggas want to write.
They want to write off the private.
Speaker 5Jets, okay, and you want to teach the lord, right, so you kind of it serves both things.
Speaker 1I think you wanted to reward the horse for sex education.
Speaker 5I think it's course correction, and he just found a way to monetize it as well.
Speaker 1I agree.
Speaker 5So, but with monetizing that, he's taking the challenge of educating too.
Speaker 2So since y'all said that, so, I think it happened sometime in August, and he responded to the backlash.
Speaker 1He did respond to that, and.
Speaker 2He said he said.
The rapper addressed a backlash in the common section of a Hollywood and Locked Instagram post, writing, I was just caught off guard and I had no answers for my grandsons.
All my gay friends know what's up.
They've been calling me with love my bathroom.
I got their answers for a six year old, teach me how to learn.
I'm not perfect, so.
Speaker 1Then teach me how to learn?
Came a couple months later.
Speaker 2With a check me.
Speaker 1I'm mad at that.
Speaker 2I wish I could or or somebody was teaching him and they were expressing it to him, and then his team said, hey, snoop, because that's what he said.
My team came to me with an idea, and it was like, you know what, maybe I'm a little more comfortable now to even back the idea.
Speaker 1I will say, as someone who is often on a MIC, I will champion people being able to learn quickly and change their minds because I do think that that's the benefit, Like that's life, right, being able to change and evolve.
Yeah, and become empowered product empowered evolved.
But no, I'm not mad at this.
I do think though, however, for someone who might still be learning, it's crazy for him to stamp be a part of the lgbt q I a community and making money off of something like this so quickly.
I wish that more money was going towards real advocates and not just hip hop heads who are learning in real time, who said something that hurt a specific community and a couple months later gets a check for it.
Because there are people on the front lines doing the real work that aren't getting funded, that don't have money to do so, that don't that aren't able to spread it in an educational way.
Speaker 2And so front line now.
Speaker 1I would like I would like him.
I would like him to do more of the work, though, I would like him to not lean into the ignorance of I'm learning, you know, I grew up in a certain time.
I would like him to really showcase doing the work, educating himself, and then as he learns, being able to use his voice to.
Speaker 2Share that team.
I think because that his initial point, like my team came to me with this idea, and it's like maybe he would have been in front of it before he'd be like, you know what, Nah, I don't want to stand behind that message versus now after months of people saying, hey man, this is my experience right, Like he's saying, like I have gay friends, not like I a black friends.
Some of the people that empower me in this business, some of my closest allies in this business have been gay males.
Keith Brown, you know does all of Niggi Minaj's video.
One of the greatest producers of music.
He's a gay man, and he's somebody I can call and ask a million questions to see if I'm being like, you know, ignorant, like if I don't know something, and I'll ask him, and he has never been a problem with me asking.
So's if Dog's team come to him and say, hey man, we have an idea, Like I know everybody's been hitting you about this and they were mad at this, but would you let us do this?
And it's like, you know what, I've been building this platform.
Yes, I'll share my platform with you.
Cause they didn't give him no check?
What check could they gave him?
Speaker 6And for the for further context to that, that clip we saw that was on his Instagram post he did a joint one with Glad and the Kid that he was speaking to Jeremy below.
Speaker 3I think that's his name.
Speaker 6He's a gay artist who's actually signed to you know, Snoop's new Death.
Speaker 3Row Records as well, So there's there's other things.
Speaker 2He's everybody is kind of like and he's accepting it as long as there's.
Speaker 1Money going back to people that are actually doing the work.
I think you know what I mean, like to me, to me, profiting off of the ignorance for a community that is a press that is like really trying to educate people on their way of life, like apparently these whores out here.
I just shut up.
You have to I'm not listening to pick up to sleptwalk.
Oh my god, No, I'm not doing a slow walk.
I'm not.
Speaker 2I'm not sure I'm not.
Speaker 3Doing I thought that was crazy.
Speaker 1I didn't even holds too far.
I'm not doing a slow walk.
Okay, I guess.
But before we get out of here, we're gonna do a segment with you.
Then we just added to the show.
It is called am I Ignorant?
And we're pretty much gonna dissect if this act, if this thought, if this person is leaning into being a little ignorant objectively doing what they know is wrong, but likes to do it anyway.
Again, what is it?
Subjectivity?
So we're gonna read this.
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That's Patreon dot com backslash Selective Ignorance Jay, go ahead and give it to us this week.
Speaker 2All right?
Speaker 6So this is about somebody taking pictures for a sister in law on a trip abroad and they had an issue about where he went.
So he says here, I spent a couple months in India early this year.
Speaker 3With my engineering firm.
Speaker 6Before I left, my sister in law, who's from India, asked me to take plenty of pictures during a trip.
She says she wanted to see the places I visited, and I was excited for me to experience our home country and see how things may have changed since she was there when she grew up.
But she did not specify what pictures she wanted, and so it says here.
I had free time outside of work on weekend and holidays.
I used that time to explore.
I did visit some of the more popular landmarks with my coworkers, but to be honest, I didn't find them to be that impressive compared to other places.
I only took a few photos.
What I found more interesting was seeing how people actually lived in different parts of the country.
I liked observing housing and infrastructures, and engineer and sanitation even in poorer areas.
I've done the same thing when I visited Egypt and Somalia.
It also helps me to appreciate what I have, So most of my pictures ended up being of slums, rivers full of trash, people washing clothes or bathing in polluted water, and just the daily life of people in less fortunate areas.
When I got back, my sister in law was eager to see the photos I handed on my phone, and after scrolling for a bit, she got upset and she asked why I only took pictures of quote filth and said I only made her country life terrible.
Speaker 3I told her that was not my intention.
I just find those things fascinating.
Speaker 6She got really angry and said I must be insane or obsessed with poverty.
My wife thinks she overreacted, but also understands why she was upset.
I genuinely did not mean any disrespect, and I do the same kind of photography everywhere I go.
Speaker 1Now, I want to sum this up into the question being are tours through the hood in poverished, stricken communities selectively ignorant?
Do you think that that is something that should be shamed or looked down upon, or do you think it's enriching?
And I asked this because when I traveled abroad, I lived in Singapore for a couple of years, and so what I realized on a lot of the tours they took you through the hoods.
The last time I chose to do that, it's something I'm no longer interested in because I think it's fucking crazy and I think actually America is just the hood like it would be like bringing people to Everie Martin Luther King Boulevard in every city.
Right.
The last time I did it, where I actually felt wrong was in Soweto.
So I went to Johannesburg and I went on It's literally a tour of the township of Soweto, and it's literally night and day from the city.
Johannesburg was beautiful, the buildings, the infrastructure, everything and we're literally going into this like village where it was like it was really sad.
And then what probably ruined it for me too is actually going to the Apartheid Museum and seeing the history as to why this area was like this.
And so that was the last time I went.
But I did want to ask you, as someone you know who would want to be the mayor of Compton, and you know, of course that's an under you know, not developed, but underprivileged community.
What are your thoughts on tours and people touring hoods and is there a good thing to it or you absolutely feel like that's ignorant, you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 2I think it's a great thing.
Speaker 1I think, Okay, talk to me.
Speaker 2Well.
I think we have all the characters that represent an idea.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2I think that's another business that hip hop should be into.
I think they explain.
I think the Trap Museum represents that explain.
Speaker 1It's like you get the culture in a digestible way.
Speaker 2So I like whoever that photographer is, because it's like if he takes a picture of every landmark, all those pictures already exist, Like everybody hides kind of us, Okay, the people that grow up poor they hide the flavor like they don't want to be judged by it.
But I think it's something special about people seeing, like, you know, the the culture that makes the town lively.
Speaker 1I think taking photos and showing that is different to me than touring it, if that makes sense, Like for me, I mean, and if Antonette was here, she would just talk about capitalism, right, But the idea that the hood is like something to be amused by or entertained with, which when you think of booking a tour, you're looking for excitement, you're looking for, you know, different type of things.
I don't know if people being in that type of environment, or being poor or being in a home where they're trying to figure out how to feed their family, deserves to have onlookers look at it as entertainment.
Speaker 2Either I'm not mad at that.
Either I'm not I don't disagree.
Speaker 1You know what I mean, especially if they come from a privileged place to go and view people who are less fortunate as a means of entertainment for a day.
To me is like and again I was one of those I wanted to see all the things, and a part of me was just like this is so terrible, like imagine I'm thinking of myself growing up.
I grew up on Section eight.
I grew up not great neighborhoods, grew up in neighborhoods that if you grew up in a better neighborhood, you knew my neighborhood wasn't good.
The idea that people would drive through to see how we lived like didn't sit well with me.
Well, so unless you're doing it from a space of wanting to make a difference.
Speaker 2But that's the point.
So it's like, I think people marvel at culture.
Speaker 1Okay, So.
Speaker 2Like, remember the people he's describing are people just living their lives.
But he's saying how fundamentally basic it is.
So I do think it's on the tourists themselves.
Where is their mind at?
Because some people can see it and think they could make a change, and some people can see it in me like them niggas doing bad.
You just don't know.
Speaker 1To me, to identify socioeconomic struggles is culture.
I don't like either.
That's the thing, right.
So if he's in India, it's they're Indians, right, So you're not drawing the different divide is like what we have in the US.
We know the socioeconomic oppression of our Friacan Americans because of our history as to why we're probably more in those communities than others.
Right, But if you're in another country, everyone is normally the same ethnicity.
You don't have the device like we have here.
And so for me, it's not culture to go through hoods or you know.
Speaker 6And that's in quotes, but some of the some of the things, some of the activities that become of the association challenges become like taco.
Speaker 2Yeah, like fried chicken yep.
That So I'm with you it is I'm not upset at what you're saying.
Like it's like going down when you go to Crenshaw, you see the Crenshaw wall, right, or you go to and you see the watch tower.
The watch tower is smacked dead in the middle of to ghetto.
Speaker 1Do you feel any way about that being a part of tour stops in LA Like when they go through Compton, when they go.
Speaker 2Through, I feel like we should be the ones setting up the business.
Speaker 1Ah, okay, I'm not mad at me to.
Speaker 2Me, like, and I feel like that's what's wrong where hip hop, Like we should make sure that we are at the most profitable space of our culture.
Okay, so so I'm not I do agree.
Somebody could miss they could.
Speaker 1Be and the community is not getting any of the money.
Speaker 2But that's totally that's the problem.
So that's the thing.
Like when you come to Compton, Like I was telling my friend we should build a Compton hip hop museum.
Speaker 1He thought I was crazy.
Speaker 2I'm like, we should build that writing Compton, Like it'd be good.
Like we could make the money fund the schools.
It's a thousand things we could do.
That's dope, right, because Compton is a awesome place.
Watch is an awesome place, don't let me wrong.
Like, yeah, there's some poverty and people with some projects, but man, when you see people living and how they party and how they still make the best of life, even how we put food together with chili cheese fries with pastrami, like it'll blow your mind.
And that's the great things that it is incredibly fired And they had the poutine.
Speaker 1That's what it's like.
Speaker 2That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 1It sounds like a jail man.
Speaker 5But you know it's crazy.
You know it's crazy.
I remember I was I was fire.
I was dating this girl, she's from l A And the first time I ever went to l A.
I wanted to know.
I wanted all the ship.
I was like, Yo, take me there, and then I was like, should I really be here?
I went to Sunday Fun Day.
I did all the ship crazy how we just turn it up and you'll be like the one thing she told me I know about the hat ship, which I.
Speaker 2Was cool with that because yeah, you couldn't work.
Speaker 5Brandy had like, you know, because I already knew, but she took I was in Compton, I saw all the ship and I got it immediately.
Speaker 2Is a god I went.
I went to Minigame with the water during the water crisis.
I got it.
Speaker 1You know.
One of one of my one of my good friends are from Lamart Park.
Speaker 5So the way she I want to know the dude took the pictures?
What national where were they from?
Speaker 1You know?
Because you know that because his wife.
But I know, so maybe maybe the wife was color and he was white.
And it's like, I don't want I don't want listen.
I don't want to colonizes out here and taking photos of the hood.
Don't do it, Okay, So so as long as we're of color, we could go through the different hoods.
Speaker 2But we do.
Speaker 1The whites don't need to do it all the time.
Speaker 2Yeah, but as I'm talking about it, I think they find it fascinated.
Just like go to New Orleans.
Everybody want to go to quarter.
Speaker 5They want to go to the cemetery and walk backwards in and walk back was out because of the spirits.
Speaker 1I'm not doing that ship I'm not.
Speaker 2It's a lady I follow on Instagram and she's from an African village.
I think her name is Naobo hold On, damn it.
But she talks about how it is.
And it's funny how from this place of privilege we sound when we see people doing fundamental things like washing clothes, to wash it, it's like it is, it is its privilege, and so I think we look at that as like that's a problem versus man that is such a way to do things.
It feels like it's something from another time.
Speaker 5If you go on to Caribbean, like my aunt, they used to milk milk the cows.
Speaker 2Right up, don't pull up, you know what I mean.
So it's like.
Speaker 5For us we get it though, you know what I mean.
I said, I want to know who's the picture taking, who's.
Speaker 2His what I mean.
Speaker 1I'm not I'm not mad at this being subjective like it depends on the picture and it depends what they did it for struggling.
Speaker 5But you can't be doing you can't go to Brownville, Eastern York taking no picture like that's trade.
Speaker 1That's that's what I'm saying.
I guess it's different when you look at other countries and then compared to here, because I'm comparing it absolutely here those bigger struggling.
It's crazy they're making it work.
Speaker 2Then get some tackle.
Where is this.
Speaker 1Glasses?
You're not too bad of a guy.
I would actually talk to you more.
The fact that this act like I was ever a bad guy.
That is a bad guy.
We're not gonna you know, gang member of this up.
Speaker 2Her name is African.
Speaker 1I love that.
Speaker 2I freaking Naoka African space.
Speaker 1Make sure you look that up, K And it's like thetive.
I think the AI you used for the description.
Speaker 2The reason I know what you're saying is true as far as like poly because she talked about it that way like she's one of somebody's wives and it wasn't like this romantic thing.
Speaker 1I love that you listen to her speak about Polly.
Speaker 2But for me, I'm a no no, I no, I verified your posy.
I was like, oh, you're right, Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1Listen.
I can't wait to educate you more sex class.
I can't wait to teach you some ship.
Okay, not that way.
Speaker 2My soul is way too pure.
Speaker 10I got here, so I got because you've been through so much.
Speaker 2I have yes and so you.
Speaker 1Just logical yes, and I'm thoughtful therapy, and I'm kind and I mean well for and I want more rights for women you live in their best life.
Speaker 2That's a little bit.
You work it on.
You gonna get where I want you to get one day.
Speaker 1Oh I don't want to get where you are.
I don't want to get where you want me to get.
Work any woman where you want to be?
I don't even know if I want to know it.
Speaker 2That is ridiculous.
We gotta to do another episode of Prototypes.
Speaker 1We got it.
I don't even want to know you.
Glasses, thank you so much for joining me.
Let everybody know where they can listen to.
Speaker 2Your thoughts by Glasses Malone.
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iHeart podcast anywhere you get your podcasts.
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Speaker 1And then you're doing something now with the lives.
Speaker 2Tell me, I am no ceilings by glass long YouTube it's called the lunch hour at twelve o'clock specific standard time on YouTube.
We just dive into whatever is happening in hip hop.
It's almost like the ghetto news.
Speaker 1That is three pm Eastern Eastern dinner time is elite.
I hate when people lead with PSD.
Easter Standard time is what we operate.
Speaker 2First, you know, actually kind of last.
Speaker 1Here we go, here we go in the world.
Speaker 2There's a time behind ours.
To Hawaii is behind ours.
What's the lowest hours, what's the latest time?
Speaker 1I don't know, but I realized that there's like two on mountain time.
That's something I just learned in like the last two years.
Anyways, y'all, thank y'all so much.
Glasses, thank you for joining me.
This was fun.
My soul is not dingy, it is pure hope.
Hopefully you guys enjoyed this episode.
I would look, I would actually like to have you back.
I'm a little nervous.
I know we always make great we never.
Speaker 2Had a great com It depends.
It depends on I think the third time you just opened up.
Speaker 1No, you know what it is.
I've learned patience, so I can now sit with you.
You know what we're not doing that.
We're not doing that every day.
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