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On June fourteenth, two thousand, there was a huge storm brewing in northeast Arkansas.

It had been raining heavily all day and according to local weather data, tornadoes had hit.

Over one hundred trees were downed, power line were down, and homes were destroyed.

Twenty year old Amanda Tussing, who went by Mandy, was hanging out with her fiance, Matt Irvin, at his apartment in Jonesboro.

Amanda lived forty miles away in Dell, Arkansas, which is in Mississippi County.

She lived with her father, Ed, her mother Susan, and her twin brother Andy.

She also had an older brother who worked out of state.

Matt did not want her to go home that night.

It was about a forty five minute drive on a good day and the weather was bad, but Amanda wanted to get home, so she left Jonesboro at around eleven thirty PM, so even if she drove very slowly, she should have gotten home around twelve thirty am at the latest.

Amanda told Matt she would call him from her parents' landline as soon as she got home.

She did have a cell phone by the way, but her family said she never kept it charged and it was always dying.

Matt never got that call by one thirty am.

He was concerned, and Matt called Amanda's mother, Susan tussing and woke her up.

Susan told Matt to hang on a second.

She said she would check to see if Amanda was in bed, but when she went into Amanda's bedroom, she saw that Amanda was not home.

This was totally unlike Amanda.

Her family knew something must have happened on that road, so her dad, Ed and her brother Andy got in the car together and drove toward Dell.

Meanwhile, Matt left his house in Jonesboro and started driving down Highway eighteen in the opposite direction.

Their plan was they would meet in the middle and hopefully see Amanda.

Somewhere along the way, Matt saw Amanda's nineteen ninety two Pontiac grand am parked under a street light.

It was on the shoulder of Arkansas Highway eighteen, about a mile west of the small town of Monette.

Amanda's car was on the side of the road.

It looked like.

It had been parked there intentionally, in other words, not like she randomly swerved over.

Matt got out of his car, stepped out into the darkness, walked over and looked inside.

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Police they met him And amanda's father out On highway eighteen by the.

Car law enforcement showed up shortly after two thirty.

Am at, first police were thinking maybe her car broke.

Down the keys were still in the.

Ignition when they started it, up the car ran.

Perfectly there was also gas in the.

Tank they noticed some other things.

Too there was a coke can in the drinkholder that was half to three quarters full and it was still chilled with condensation on the, side.

Which police believed.

Indicated to them that someone had taken a drink out of that can pretty.

Recently they also noticed the radio was turned To amanda's favorite station with the volume turned, down and the windshield wipers had stopped.

Midwipe on the.

Windshield the interior of the car did not show any signs of foul.

Play amanda's stuff was, inside her cell phone and her billfold were on the passenger.

Seat her cell phone was, dead but again her parents said that that wasn't necessarily a red flag because it was very often.

Dead she had a habit of letting her phone run.

Down and, this by the, way was back way before.

Smartphones back in two, thousand cell phone reception was very spotty in those.

Areas in some of those areas it still.

IS i talked To amanda's, Cousin jonathan about the.

Case her cousin was born After amanda, disappeared But amanda's family has never stopped trying to figure out what happened to.

Her the weird things about the case is that like her car Wasn't it didn't look like somebody had like pulled her over and dragged her out of the car or anything like.

That everything was like in, place but she had left all her stuff.

There so people like to say, that, Like amanda would never have pulled over for no.

Reason you, Know investigators and her family believed that she may have pulled over to stop for some reason or been pulled over by.

Someone amanda's family and friends and volunteers came out to, search but they saw no sign Of amanda for.

Days then three days, later On june, eighteenth two, Thousand Father's, day a, Couple trent And Fonda, davis.

Were coming back home after a trip To.

Jonesboro they drove over the twin bridges On Arkansas highway one thirty five that ran over a body of water Called Big Bay.

Ditch the couple saw what they thought were some clothes floating in that.

Water then they realized that they were looking at a.

Body it Was Amanda.

Toussing Amanda tussing's body had been.

Found this was twelve miles in the opposite direction of where she was.

Driving she was driving, east her body was found to the.

West an autopsy revealed That amanda had water in her nasal, passages but not her.

Lungs law enforcement have said publicly that they Believe amanda was dead before her body was thrown into the, water but they reportedly could not decide on a definite cause of death because it could have been a dry drowning where the victim dies of choking on the water but water never actually gets into the.

Lungs AMANDA i had no visible injuries except a small bruise on the back of her.

Head there were no obvious signs of sexual, assault but because she had been in the water for, days it must have been very hard to know for.

Sure the police also had more bad.

Luck the heavy torrential rains had washed away a lot of potential.

Clues Gary, etter the original detective on the, case told Kait Regionate news quote the Medical examiner's office checked and said that she had no physical injuries other than being in the water and the impact of the.

ELEMENTS i think whoever did this probably did it.

Before that's What i'm, thinking due to no evidence end Quote Detective.

Etter by the, way in my, opinion from what he said in, public it really does seem like he deeply cared about this.

Case last year in twenty twenty, three The Craighead County Sheriff's office assigned a new detective Named David bailey to this, case and he has said that he's reviewing everything with a fresh.

Eye so who Left amanda there floating in that ditch while they were figuring this?

Out by the, way law enforcement did not say there's no immediate danger to the, public which is what they say a lot during these.

Cases in, fact they said kind of the opposite In Mississippi.

County In Craigheak, county they told women traveling alone to be careful and to take extra.

Precautions Mississippi County Sheriff Leroy meadows told a local paper, QUOTE i would urge people traveling alone to be.

Careful it would be wise to make sure you know who is trying to stop, you or drive to a lighted area before.

Stopping end.

Quote this is very good.

ADVICE i just want to point out That amanda did stop under a street, light and her parents said she was very safety conscious and they had told her they had drilled it into she should only park in well lit areas late at.

Night so even if she had followed that, Advice i'm not sure that it would have helped.

Her amanda's car had some partial fingerprints, inside but according to, police nothing.

Usable according to law, enforcement her car did not look like it had been wiped.

Clean this led investigators to believe that the perpetrator probably did not get inside the.

Car Detective etter said something else in that interview with the news.

Channel he told, them, quote the first thing that comes to your, mind And i'm not saying it was a law enforcement, officer first thing that comes to your mind is that a law enforcement officer would know how to conceal the.

Evidence end.

Quote amanda's family laid her to, rest and the funeral procession was three miles.

Long everyone loved this young woman who had dreams of being a, veterinarian and her father Told channel Eight news that Because amanda loved the song tie yellow ribbon around the Old oak, tree the town actually ran out of yellow ribbons because there were so many of them that had been tied to trees in her.

Honor this murder brought the town together but also terrified locals all at the same.

Time police did take a close look At, Matt amanda's, fiancee which is completely.

Normal according To amanda's, family they got along very.

Well they had occasional minor arguments about things like where he was going to go to, school but they apparently had a very, good loving relationship and were very.

Happy they were supposed to get married.

The next year In.

June amanda's cousin said That matt did not appear to be a person of interest for.

LONG i know that at the, time they obviously first, suspect you, know is always going to be the, spouse and so they questioned him and he was Really i'm pretty sure he was very, cooperative and THEN i think they ruled him.

Out, Also matt was the person who Reported amanda.

Missing matt told investigators he And amanda had dinner At Dixie cafe that, night the night she went, missing and later stopped at a grocery store before going back to his.

Apartment one Of amanda's school teachers was able to confirm that they had seen the couple at The Dixie cafe that, night so police were able to confirm her.

Activities then they went back To matt's.

Apartment it was getting late and the weather was, bad And matt did not Want amanda to get on that.

Road amanda still lived at home with her parents and she had a, Curfew so If amanda normally called her parents before heading, home why did she head out so late that.

Night could she And matt have been.

Arguing they Grilled matt.

Hard they questioned him several, times but police said he was totally cooperative that he had passed polygraphs three separate.

Times police also considered another possibility very early on That amanda could have been pulled over by a member of law, Enforcement.

So they think it Was there's been a theory that it was someone in law enforcement that pulled her over and then got her out of the car and then took her or people think that it might have been someone impersonating law enforcement and got her.

Out detectives were Processing amanda's body in the clothes that she was found in when her body was recovered from that.

Ditch she was still wearing the same jeans and white GAP t shirt she had been wearing when she went.

Missing her driver's license was in the front pocket of her.

Jenes NOW i wondered at first if that had some kind of.

Significance could that be evidence That amanda got pulled?

Over but her mother said not.

Necessarily she told police That amanda normally kept her driver's license like that in her front.

Pocket apparently she never kept it in a purse or a.

Billfold amanda was wearing her diamond engagement ring when she was, found so between that and the wallet that had been left on her, seat detectives took this as even more.

Evidence the motive was obviously not.

Robbery investigators Believed amanda was killed somewhere else and then thrown into the, water but the question is where and, why because the only injury they found was a bruise on the back of her.

HEAD a few years After.

Amanda, disappeared law enforcement gave photos to THE tv Station Regionate news and they are.

Haunting you could see one of the clues that can of coke in the drink holder that was partly.

Empty it was chilled with condensation on the night she.

Disappeared now a lot of people have wondered if the coke can was a clue that maybe she had stopped somewhere.

On the road during her.

Drive it was late at, night and that is a pretty remote strip of.

Highway there are only a couple of gas stations along.

It police did apparently check surveillance footage from one of these convenience stores and said they did not See amanda on, it but that's not proof that she wasn't.

There and someone else also brought up another interesting.

POSSIBILITY i was reading a lot of online comments and they mentioned the were vending machines at a couple of these, Places so even if she didn't go, in maybe she stopped at a vending.

Machine, Now matt apparently told investigators he wasn't sure if she had taken the drink from his house or, Not so that's another possibility she might have taken it from her fiance's home because she was not in the car that.

Long before something stopped her on that dark stretch of.

Road there was a witness who reportedly said that he saw her at a gas, station but police couldn't confirm, this and again they reportedly pulled surveillance footage and didn't see her in.

IT i don't know times or, details because remember this is still an open, investigation so we don't have access to any of the case.

Files in the photos that were released to the, media you can see a basketball on the.

Foreboard amanda played sports in high.

School she was an accomplished.

Athlete there's also A bridle magazine in the.

Car she was clearly excited about her upcoming wedding and probably looking at.

Dresses Both amanda's parents say they believe she may have been stopped by, someone maybe someone impersonating a police, officer or that she had some kind of car.

Trouble the law enforcement theory is a good, one but then there's been other people who have said maybe it was a serial killer that was just you, know passing through that came and did.

It because just the evidence at the, car there was basically no evidence to go off.

Of over the, years law enforcement have debated and investigated a lot of these.

Theories like so many, cases this one has been the subject of several rumors over the.

Years there's a ton of people in the, COMMUNITY i mean a ton of people that want this case to be.

Solved and there's a ton of people who think that it's like literally like we're right there and they're they're.

Close but that's just all.

HEARSAY i, mean it doesn't mean.

Anything but.

There's people who say who swear up and down they know who did.

It they just don't have, evidence enough evidence to book the.

Guy the strip of road Between jonesboro And dell is pretty, remote especially back.

Then it passes through a couple of small towns Like manila And Black, oak and there are only a couple of gas stations that would have been opened during that.

Time over the, years a lot of people came forward with, tips but most of them led to.

Nothing in two thousand and, three the sheriff And Ana, County jack McCann Of Craighead, county said that they had gotten a major tip that someone had told them there was some sort.

Of note In amanda's.

COFFIN i don't know if it was a confession or, information but it was apparently something that could have helped lead to the killer's.

Identity amanda's body was.

Exhumed there was no note or anything else inside that casket besides her.

Remains to, me.

This really does show how police were willing to act on any.

Tip i'm sure that after going through the trauma of unearthing their daughter's, body the fact that the coffin had no evidence must have been another devastating blow For amanda's.

Parents around that same, time a psychic detective rolled into town with a COURT tv show Called Haunting.

Evidence i'm sure many of you know HOW i feel.

About psychics on this.

Podcast apparently their paranormal investigation did not provide any credible.

Leads, then in two thousand and, seven an anonymous person told The sheriff's department that they had heard people allegedly Discussing amanda's, murder but nothing came to that.

Either in so many of these, cases we see this over and.

Over people over the years will claim either that they did it or they know someone who did.

It they'll do it sometimes for their own.

Reasons sometimes if they're, incarcerated they may want to impress other, inmates and the more publicity a case, has the more rumors start, flying but police were willing to listen because there was a real lack of physical evidence in this.

Case there were zero suspects and no clear.

Motive there was one single hair found On amanda's.

Body they DID dna, testing but it turned out that it Was amanda's own.

Hair The sheriff's department admitted that law enforcement was up a creek and WHAT i take from that is that they were just, stuck no forward movement on the.

Case amanda's father did an interview WITH Kit channel, eight and it was.

Heartbreaking he talked about the f That amanda was found On Father's.

Day the reporter asked him if he was affected every Single Father's.

Day he got tearful and, said, yeah but it's no different from other.

Days he's affected every single day by his daughter's.

Murder so police are left with a few different.

Possibilities Was amanda killed by someone, random maybe someone who was just passing through the.

Area detectives don't think.

So they think the location of the body is a big.

Clue they point out that it's near an access point that they believe only someone local would know.

About but what.

About a local serial?

Killer several people have suggested That amanda might have been killed by someone impersonating a police.

Officer, now there was one very high profile case the real rapist who was preying on women In arkansas in the late.

Nineties the papers gave him the name the Blue Light.

Rapist his real name Was Robert Todd.

Birmingham he was convicted of raping two women in Eastern arkansas in nineteen ninety.

Seven the reason he was given that nickname was because he had blue lights on top of his.

Car he pulled women over and impersonated a police.

Officer one Of robert's, victims a seventeen year old whose first name Was, shannon told detectives he pulled her over while she was traveling alone on a state.

Highway she said at first she thought she was going to get a speeding.

Ticket after he signaled for her to pull over and she, Did robert came up to the window of her car carrying a.

Gun he told her to cover her face with a shirt and to get out of her, car then he forced her into his.

Vehicle once he Got shannon into his, vehicle he claimed that his buddy was going to take her To Little rock to pick someone, up But, instead he drove her to a remote location and raped.

Her he told her that if she would kiss him, back he wouldn't hurt.

Her after the, assault he forced her to redress and took her to a.

Field he made her lie down and wait until he was.

Gone robert was convicted of those two, rapes but he was suspected of committing.

More there were other attacks women who were pulled over in the same area with Blue mars lights and then sexually, assaulted But robert was never convicted of those.

Attacks side.

Note in twenty, seventeen lawmakers Passed Shannon's, law name For.

Shannon this law increased the penalty for anyone caught illegally possessing blue emergency.

Lights robert was sentenced to life in.

Prison he died in prison OF covid related complications In may twenty.

Twenty But robert was convicted in nineteen ninety, seven which of, course was three years Before amanda's.

Death but there was still lingering questions about these other alleged blue light.

Assaults were these copycat rapes or could there have been another blue light rapist out there one who wasn't.

Caught there was another young woman eighteen year Old Dana, stidham who went missing From Bella, Vista, arkansas On july twenty, fifth nineteen eighty.

Nine on that, Day dana was on her way.

Home she had gone out to run some errands for her, dad who wasn't feeling.

Well he asked her to pick some stuff up for, him so she went To Philip's Food store In Bella.

Vista she bought Some alka seltzer and some dishwashing soap and.

Sugar this is all according to.

Receipts she left at three SEVENTEEN.

Pm, now there was another grocery store closer to her, house but later one of the detectives on the case talked to reporters and said That dana avoided that store because a guy whose parents owned the store back then hung out there a.

Lot, now apparently this guy had a crush On, dana but the feelings were not.

Reciprocated the last time That dana was seen alive was when she left that food store after running her errand for her.

Dad she used to work At phillip's food, store so she knew a lot of people there and they all remembered talking to.

Her she talked to people she knew in the store and in the parking.

Lot police said they also talked to another, witness someone who was apparently doing some landscaping near the.

Store.

Now this person apparently told police that they Saw dana, lee but they weren't sure which way she turned when she drove.

Out after, That dana never came.

Home On july twenty, sixth at around six thirty, am a police officer was driving southbound DOWN Us highway seventy one when they Saw dana's nineteen eighty Four Dodge omni abandoned on the shoulder Near Wellington.

Road the keys were still in the, ignition the driver's side window was halfway, down and the rear tire was slightly deflated but not totally.

Flat, again there was no obvious sign of anything being wrong with the, car and no sign of foul, play but this Time dana's purse was missing and the driver's seat was way, back as if a taller person had been the last one.

Driving dana had been doing laundry that, day and her laundry was found scattered several feet away from the.

Car the search For dana went on for, months, then In september of nineteen eighty nine a hundred Found dana's remains in a creek bed near The Arkansas missouri.

Border her clothes were buried in a shallow grave.

Nearby she had a cut on her left shoulder.

Blade it's been reported that detectives were not sure of the actual cause of, death but they are withholding, details SO i can't be sure about.

That and obviously this is still an open.

Investigation but they have made some facts, public like the fact that detectives had suspicions about that, guy the one who had a crush On, dana the one who attended the same high school she.

Did they questioned this, person but in the, end The Benton County, Prosecutor Brad, butler said he didn't believe he had enough physical or circumstantial evidence to file any.

Charges we're going to talk more in depth About Dana stidham's case in a future.

Episode AND i just want to be.

CLEAR i always hate when people make really tenuous connections between cases that are obviously not.

CONNECTED i have no reason to believe right now that these two cases are.

Connected dana was found in a, Grave amanda was found in a body of.

Water dana's clothes were buried, Nearby so at least from what we know what's come out, publicly it does seem, like at least on the, surface there could be more evidence That dana's case may have been some type of a sex.

Crime amanda disappeared at, Night dana disappeared in the middle of the.

Day but there were also some.

Similarities both women were.

Petiitue dana was five foot two and one hundred, pounds with, short dark.

Care the crimes happened near each.

Other women's cars were found abandoned on the side of the road with the keys and the, ignition and there were similar theories discussed in both, cases including the possibility someone impersonating a police officer could have pulled them.

OVER i found something very interesting in the court.

Documents after the blue light rapist's, conviction the circuit court allowed a second victim to testify in.

Court they allowed this so that they could establish the rapist pattern his Mo so what's interesting here is that two Of robert's victims had some.

Similarities the reason this is interesting to me is not Because robert Killed, amanda we know he, didn't he was in jail at the, time but because maybe the methods he used can give us some insight into other.

Predators robert would tell these women they were being charged WITH, dwi but he said perhaps he could work something out with.

Them he also apparently would do body, searches and then that was the excuse he used to put his hands on these women across the Line.

Physically he did not get into the women's, cars he followed them in his.

Car, also both Of robert's victims had families that were out of town at the time when their attacks took.

Place and this is something that piqued my.

Curiosity was this something he knew beforehand because he recognized these, women or was this something he found out while questioning them initially.

And used his.

Advantage so the killer could have been someone impersonating a police, Officer but there is also another possibility the killer could have been a real police, officer either one that was on duty at the time or off duty in a patrol.

Car law enforcement definitely seemed to consider this.

Possibility the sheriff made the comment to news station eight that a police officer would know how to hide.

Evidence in, fact detectives spoke to several police officers From Mississippi county And Craighead.

County they apparently ruled a lot of people out and gave a lot of polygraph tests to members of law.

Enforcement one person and they focused on was reportedly a police officer who lived in the nearby town of Black.

Oak that would have been one of the towns That Amanda tussing would have gone through on her way.

Home true crime Author George, jared who we worked with on The Rebecca gould, case discussed this theory in his Book whispers and The, willows and in his book he said that he discovered through his law enforcement sources that that officer's.

Name Was Johnny.

Williams apparently a lot of women were complaining back in the day That johnny would follow them.

Home he wrote in the book that police Interviewed Johnny williams multiple.

Times amanda's cousin wasn't sure about the name when we brought it, up but the family has said over the years they have heard that there was someone in law enforcement who police apparently, suspected couldn't get enough evidence on and hoped would give a deathbed confession when he began to get.

Sick johnny got a terminal illness in two thousand and nin he passed away the following.

Year, Now Johnny williams was never publicly named a, suspect never arrested or charged in connection with anything Involving amanda's.

Case we have no idea if he had any information at, all but any information he would have had went to the grave with him in twenty.

Ten so who Killed Amanda?

Tussing there are still a lot of possibilities to.

Consider one is That amanda did stop at a convenience store on her way home and got that can of.

Coke maybe someone saw her there and followed her out of the.

Store now that person might have been a police.

Officer or it's also possible that the person who got her to pull over wasn't a police officer at.

All maybe it was someone faking car.

Trouble maybe they got her to pull over another, way or maybe she pulled over.

First it was meaning really heavily that.

Night maybe she was sitting in her car until the rain passed and someone saw her park.

There in that, moment sitting inside that dark car with zero, visibility she was very.

Vulnerable whether it was a law enforcement, officer someone impersonating a police, officer or just a sick and twisted random.

Person it seems likely that it was someone who lived in the area and they could be still out.

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