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It was around seven pm on August thirteenth, nineteen eighty one, and thirty six year old Carol Morgan was working the till at her corner shop at sixteen Finch Crescent in a town called Leyton Buzzard in the County of Bedfordshire, England.

This was a close knit community.

Carol owned and ran the shop with her husband, thirty one year old Alan Morgan, and everybody knew them.

Everyone in town knew and loved Carol, who was described by friends and family as warm, caring, genuine and friendly.

Carol loved the shop and the other lights of her life were her two children from a previous marriage, fourteen year old Dean and twelve year old Jane.

On that night, Carol was working at the shop alone.

She was getting ready for closing, which was at six pm.

Her husband, Allan, was at the movie theater in Lwton with his two step children, Dean and Jane, but at some point someone surprised Carol.

Alan and the children got home at around ten ten pm.

Shortly after arriving at the house, Carroll's husband, Alan raced to a neighbor's house and asked him to come to the shop.

The neighbor followed Alan into the storeroom and saw Carol in a pool of blood.

Her body was found in the storeroom of the store.

Forensic testing revealed that Carol had been brutally beaten and stabbed with a weapon, something like an axe or a machete, something heavy but very sharp.

She had been hit so hard that pieces of her skull and brain matter were on the floor.

The police had no way of knowing it back in nineteen eighty one, but this police investigation would last forty three years and take a lot of strange twists and turns, and in the end there was justice, but it's questionable whether full justice will ever be served.

Who came into the store that night and hacked Carol Morgan to death.

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After police got to the scene, they found evidence that some money four hundred and thirty five pounds to be exact, had been stolen, along with fourteen hundred cigarettes, but police did not have a ton of information to go on.

The attack had been extremely brutal and horrific and there were some signs of defensive wounds on Carol's hands, so it seemed like whatever happened had taken her completely by surprise and that she had fought for her life.

The UK channel ITV made a documentary about the case called The Real Unforgotten.

This documentary followed the decades long investigation into Carroll's murder.

I highly recommend checking it out because it really is an excellent analysis of what the police did and the excellent detective work that was done years later.

In the documentary, they explained that the police back in nineteen eighty one believed that the motive for the killing had been robbery, and they focused on that theory pretty much exclusively.

On the ITV program, they showed images of diagrams of Carol's injuries.

She had been beaten to death and she had huge cuts on her head.

Whoever beat her beat her so badly that her skull was cracked.

So police theorized the weapon had been something like an axe or a machete, but they never found the murder weapon.

They did have one early lead.

There was a man driving a green car who had been spotted at a payphone box near the shop shortly after seven pm.

On the ITV documentary, they stated when police started canvassing the area, they found witnesses who saw this man at the phone box.

One of the witnesses worked with a police sketch artist.

They made a poster and they put them out everywhere.

In the documentary, they showed old footage of Brian Picket, the senior investigating officer from nineteen eighty one.

He was talking about this stranger.

He said the man was seen driving away from the corner shop and was described as being aged between seventeen and twenty one years old, around five foot seven to five foot eight inches tall, with a slim belld brown mousey hair and piggish style nostrils.

Brian Pickett stated that the witness saw this man holding white plastic bags to his chest, bags that police believed at the time were used to carry the stolen money and cigarettes from the corner shop.

So police believed the killer had come in to rob the store and that Carol was basically just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Police focused their investigation almost solely on that stranger at the phone box and the green car he was driving, but they never found the man and they never found the car.

After that, the investigation seemed to hit a dead end.

This case terrified the local community because the thought that someone could go in and murder someone with an axe over such a small amount of money and a few cigarettes was truly scary.

But there were also some local rumors spreading.

Witnesses spoke to police to voice their suspicions about someone much closer to home, Carol's husband, Alan Morgan.

So what was going on in Carol and Allen's marriage and why would he have any.

Reason to hurt her?

Carol Morgan was born on December twenty sixth, nineteen forty four.

She grew up in Highbury, North London.

Carol was married before Alan.

She met her.

Husband when he was sixteen, she was a year older.

Her husband later testified that they met while he was on vacation with a friend.

Carol and Richard, her first husband, were both from London.

He was from Wimbledon in West London.

She was from North London, so the relationship continued after that holiday ended.

They got married in nineteen sixty five and they settled down together in Swindon.

They had two children, Jane and Ian, but like a lot of couples, they drifted apart and started having problems in their relationship.

Richard later testified in court that he met someone else and that that was kind of the final straw for their marriage.

He testified he left Carol to be with this other person, but after the split, he said he and Carol remained close.

He said, quote, Carol was upset I was leaving, but there was no animosity end quote.

In nineteen seventy eight, Carol was trying to meet new people.

She went to a singles group called the Gingerbread Group, and that's where she met Allan.

Allan was also divorced and had two children from a previous marriage, but those children lived with his ex partner.

Shortly after meeting and falling in love, Carol and Allan made plans to buy and run this corner shop together.

Carol financed the shop.

They were able to buy it because Carol had sold her house in her divorce, so they used the share of the house money to invest in the shop.

Carol and Allan got me married in nineteen seventy nine.

It's interesting because you never know what's going on behind closed doors in these relationships.

But years later, some members of Carroll's family, including her sister and her niece, talked to the ITV program about how these horrific events had changed their family forever.

They said that after Carol met Allan, she went from being this outgoing and loving person to being pretty much completely isolated.

Her niece told ITV she believed that Alan was trying to control Carol and manipulate her, but at the time they had no idea how bad things were getting at home behind closed doors.

Local gossips said there might have been another reason why Alan wanted Carol out of the way, because Alan was having an affair with a woman named Margaret Spooner, who was also married, But when it came to Carroll's murder, Alan had this apparently airtight albi.

The night of the murder, he was at the movies with his two step children.

Carol's sun Dean told police that on the day of the murder that Alan came home shortly after lunch and told them they were going to the movies that night, so he, Jane, and Allan ended up driving to the town of Lowton to see a double feature.

Jane told police that they got to the theater got their tickets at six twenty five pm and that they saw Sinbad, the Eye of the Tiger and Super Snooper and came out at ten ten pm.

Police were trying to figure out what happened while Carol was working alone that night.

They knew that the shop closed at six.

Pm, but apparently some potential customers, according to the ITV show, tried the doors at five pin fifty five pm and couldn't open them, so it seems as though Carol might have shut the shop a little bit early.

The detectives went back and re examined everything they thought they knew about this case.

First of all, they needed to look into the man with the white bags, the one who was seen near the phone box.

They went back through old witness days and found that a witness saw the man drop the bags, pick up some coins, get into the car and drive away.

Then there were two more witnesses at around seven ten pm, two women who were walking to Bingo saw that man in the green car.

Presumably that would mean that if that man was the killer, the man murdered Carol and what they saw was him driving away.

From the scene.

But there were some other witnesses who had conflicting information.

There were witnesses who said they saw Carol.

Later after closing, two kids who knew Carol well were sitting on a wall talking They saw Carol walking back toward the shop with her dog.

They said this happened between eight thirty and nine pm.

So the officer interviewed in the ITV documentary pointed out if Carol was alive between eight thirty and nine pm, that appeared to point to the man in the green car not being the killer.

In twenty eighteen, Detective Superintendent Carl Foster was put in charge of the cold case.

Based on what he saw in that case file, he decided to reopen the investigation.

He was convinced that.

Even if Allen had an alibi and had been elsewhere, the evidence suggested that he may have been behind the killing.

The Major Crime Unit reopened the investigation into Carol's murder in twenty nineteen, but they had a lot of problems.

For one thing, as we see in so many of our cases, mistakes were made, a lot of evidence was destroyed and there was no way to get it back.

Police had very little to go on except for witness statements and some very old photos of the crime scene.

One of the reasons why I wanted to cover this case in particular is because I was so inspired by the.

Work that these cold case detectives did.

How they took a case like.

So many of the ones that we see every day, where evidence was destroyed, and yet they managed to turn things around.

I wanted to see what we could all learn from this case.

The detectives taking over in twenty nineteen did not believe that robbery was the motive.

One of the reasons they said they believed that was because of the brutal way that Carroll was killed.

Police referred to that beating as overkill.

They believe this was personal, not random.

There were some other oddities.

Most of the money that had been stolen was stolen from a desk drawer in the shop.

This drawer had what Alan described to police as a secret mechanism.

It was like a trick drawer.

You had to move another drawer into position to get it to work.

Alan told the police it was like a Chinese puzzle.

He said, only he and maybe Carol knew how that drawer worked.

So how would a robber have known how to open that drawer or to force Carol to open it?

How would the robber have even known where the drawer was at all.

Much later in court, a prosecutor would state that the killer had inside information before the killer came into the shop.

And one of the detectives in the ITV documentary noticed something else from the photos, a flash of gold.

Carol was wearing her wedding ring, So the detective wondered, if robbery was really the only motive, why was her wedding ring not pulled off and stolen.

Police began to lean more.

And more into the theory this had not been a robbery, this had been a staged robbery, and that the real primary motive here was to kill Carol.

The police had a massive number of witness statements to go through, thousands of pages, but as one of the investigators pointed out, they had to go back to the beginning and reread everything.

One of the first people they talked to was Allan's neighbor.

He was the first person who Allan told about finding Carroll's body, the one who first saw Carroll's body along with Alan.

The neighbor told police that Alan ran across the street to his place and asked him to use the phone.

He said Alan seemed to be in shock that he heard Allan tell police his address and explained that his wife was in a pool of blood.

The neighbor went with Alan back to the shop and down to the stock room and found Carroll there.

He said blood was spattered everywhere and it was immediately obvious that she was dead.

The neighbor said he ran out of there and that Alan followed him.

He said Alan was crying, but that as the neighbor tried to comfort him, the neighbor told police.

He noticed Alan seemed very composed.

Now, the detectives in the ITV series point out this could have been a natural reaction.

People process things in different.

Ways, but the detective did ask why did Alan walk across the street to use someone else's phone instead of just calling from the store.

This officer stated it made him believe Alan had a reason for doing that, something that indicated maybe he didn't want to be the one to discover that body alone.

Another piece of evidence that detectives had was the post mortem report that was made in nineteen eighty one.

So they took that report and went to outside experts, including a forensic pathologist.

The pathologist said Carol was killed by multiple blunt forest blows by a very heavy object that was also sharp, heavy enough to shatter the skull, but also sharp enough to slice.

The pathologist agreed with the investigator's theory that the wounds were indicative of overkill, that the intention was to kill Carol.

This was a hit and Carol was the target.

The pathologist also said something else.

There were stab wounds on Carol's midsection that made them believe one of two things happened.

Either there was more than one killer, or maybe the killer changed weapons midway through the attack.

The pathologist also stated that Carol had wounds on her face, wounds that the pathologists said happened after the initial attack, either around the time of death or after the time of death.

They described these as disrespect to the individual and mutilation injuries.

So police used that information to move more and more away from the original theory.

This was personal, it was all about Carol, and the crime scene was staged.

But who would have wanted to hurt Carol because everyone in the community seemed to love Carol.

When police went back through the witness statements, they found that a lot of people were talking about Alan, and specifically Alan's behavior before.

And after the murder.

A few weeks after Carroll's death, Alan sold the shot.

He took his step kids and moved away from the area, but he also made several comments to reporters.

He told them he was being accused of killing Carroll, that people believed he had killed his wife, but he said it couldn't have been him because he was in Luton at the movies.

When the reporter asked Alan why he thought people believed that, Alan said, in his opinion, it could be because he was, in his words, happy go lucky and a womanizer.

And when Alan left town, he didn't just take his stepchildren.

Margaret, his lover, also went with him.

Police knew about Margaret and the affair back in nineteen eighty one, a few months after Carol's murder, Margaret's husband, Neil Spooner, called police.

He said that his wife.

Had confessed to him that she had been having an affair, and she said she had been having an affair with Alan Morgan.

Police confirmed this with other witnesses, including a friend of Margaret's named Sheila Forest.

Sheila told police she was on a barge trip with Margaret.

She said Margaret kept sneaking away to meet Alan.

Sheila said Margaret and Alan were seeing each other every day at the time of the murder.

She said.

Right after the murder, she saw Alan and Margaret together.

She said they were holding hands and Alan made the comment it won't be long now, Darling, which Sheila said made her feel sick.

Police said in the ITV documentary that they had evidence that Margaret and Alan were in bed together the morning after the murder, and then just a few weeks later, Margaret had left her husband she moved in with Alan and his children.

Now, obviously this is all circumstantial, but it had police in nineteen eighty one and in twenty nineteen wondering how much.

Did Margaret Spooner know and when did she know it.

In twenty nineteen, police went back to interview people in the community, and even though it had been over forty years, a lot of people who lived in this area had heard about this case.

The murder had been so brutal people still talked about it.

Forty years later.

Carl Foster, the senior investigating officer, did something else that was interesting.

He went back and looked at all of the media reports from that time and kind of used Allan's own words against him.

Police looked back at these interviews that Alan gave to media, and they saw how he contradicted himself.

For example, when he went to Malta with Margaret and was asked about going away with his lovers so soon after his wife's death, he made comments saying my marriage was as good as over and that he couldn't go on mourning forever.

A news channel asked Alan in nineteen eighty two how the murder had affected him, and he gave this very cold answer.

He talked about how he had to shut down the shop for weeks so the police could do their investigation.

He talked about how this had ruined his business, how he had to sell the shop at a loss.

But he said nothing in that interview that I saw about any grief for Carol or the two children who she left behind.

In fact, he said the kids are all right, but he said it would be better for the kids if he moved away.

So Alan seemed to be blaming the police investigation for ruining the shop's business, But investigators found evidence that Alan and Carol's show was having problems before she was brutally murdered.

Police in nineteen eighty one interviewed two accountants, who said the shop had been losing a lot of money and that actually, at the time of the murder, Allan and Carol were trying to sell the shop.

The accountant said when he talked to Carol about the losses, Carrol started crying and said that they were unhappy that they had had big dreams for that shop.

Police found another contradiction because while Allan had given an interview to the Observer newspaper stating that quote my wife wasn't insured, I had nothing to gain end quote, police said that wasn't true because Alan had taken out a loan before the murder to help pay the shop's debt, and after Carroll's death that loan was paid off completely.

Alan and Margaret disappeared.

They moved away from the area and from the corner shop, and eventually Alan and Margaret got married.

They actually ended up buying their own corner shop together in nineteen eighty two.

Looking at the case again in twenty nineteen, police had a new theory.

They had a lot of circumstantial evidence, but they still had zero physical evidence.

But they didn't give up.

They kept talking to outside experts.

They made a bunch of new posters and handed them out all over town.

And I found this part really interesting because the posters said did you know Carol?

Which I think is a great way of bringing people out.

Eventually, police said they were ready to bring Margaret and Allen in for questioning.

They found them together, still married, now in their seventies.

They were living in Brighton, and police took them in for interviews.

Both of them completely denied any knowledge of or involvement in Carroll's murder.

Margaret said she had been horrified when she.

Heard about Carroll's death.

She said after the murder, she didn't see Allen for several days.

She said she out of town that week, but police knew that wasn't true because they had witnesses saying otherwise.

Police went back and they kept knocking on doors.

Eventually they figured out what they believed was the murder weapon.

They had talked to several witnesses who said there was a machete in Alan's shop, and a machete in a corner shop is the kind of thing that you tend to notice.

But Alan told police there wasn't a machete in there.

He said he couldn't remember the type of weapon that.

Was in there.

So again police don't have anything concrete, but they do have this contradictory information between what Alan's telling them and what witnesses at the time were telling them.

They also questioned Alan about some dodgy financial stuff in his background, including convictions for insurance fraud, but when police asked Alan about that, he denied any knowledge of those convictions.

Police also spoke to witnesses who said that Alan had a violent temper.

A friend of Carol's named Sheila, told police that at one point Carol told her she was pregnant with twins and that Alan punched her in the stomach and that later she lost her babies.

The friends said Alan would.

Regularly physically abuse Carroll, which again Alan completely denied.

Police talked to Alan's daughter from his first marriage.

She said her dad would sometimes tie her to a chair when she did something wrong.

She said sometimes he would hit her with a belt.

She said she was terrified of her father.

Still, police did not have enough to charge Alan and Margaret, so Alan and Margaret were released from police custody.

This investigation dragged on for a long time, six years total, and finally the public appeals the police were making seemed to pay off because in twenty twenty, new witnesses came forward, people who had never talked to law enforcement in the past.

One was a guy named Michael Marrin.

Michael was eighteen years old at the time of Carroll's murder.

He said he knew Alan from the shop.

He also knew Alan's car.

On August thirteenth, the night of Carroll's murder, he said he was driving home from the train station with his mom when he saw Alan in his car driving in the opposite direction.

He said Alan passed him on the road and that this was at around six forty five pm.

Police said they couldn't find Michael Marin's witness statements, but ITV interviewed him, and over forty years later, he said he was still absolutely certain that he saw Alan Morgan on the night of Carroll's murder.

This would have been after Alan claimed he was at the movies.

Because remember Alan's daughter said they bought the tickets at six twenty five pm.

But police's biggest.

Break was in March of twenty twenty one.

That's when Jane Foster, a woman who was a teenager at the time of Carroll's murder, contacted police.

The investigating officer told ITV News Anglia.

Quote.

When we went to visit her, we knocked on the door and she said, I've been waiting for you to visit me for forty years end quote.

Jane said she was very friendly with Margaret Spooner back in nineteen eighty one because she was a troubled teen Back then, at age fourteen, Jane said she got expelled from school.

Margaret was one of her tutors.

She said that Margaret took an interest in her and that Margaret had saved her life.

They confided in each other and got very close.

Three years later, when she was seventeen, One night, Margaret invited her to a local pub called the Dolphin.

Jane said Margaret picked her up and drove her to the pub.

Jane said that when they got there, Alan was there, and Jane said Alan made statements about hating Carroll and that Alan said, well, I'd quite like Carol dead.

Jane said she sat there in shock while Alan and Margaret openly discussed how to get rid of Carrol.

How they talked about doing it with insulin, but ruled it out because they didn't really have medical training.

Then, Jane said they talked about rigging Carol's car, but then they said no, they couldn't do that because neither of them knew anything about car mechanics.

And they talked about how something could go wrong, What if someone else.

Took the car, what if one of the kids was in the car.

Jane said she freaked out with all this talk and ran out of the pub.

She said Margaret ran after her and told her Alan was just kidding, but Jane said while she was there, Alan also made some comments about hiring someone else to kill Carrol.

Much later, Jane would tell police she wondered if they were trying to introduce the idea that perhaps Jane would be involved with the killing.

Police asked Jane why it took so long for her to come forward.

She said she was seventeen years old at the time.

She adored and idolized Margaret, and she said that later Margaret told her not to talk to anyone about that pub conversation, and she said Margaret tried to reassure her Alan didn't do it.

Jane said she always believed Alan was capable of murder, but she said now years later, she was considering another horrific possibility.

What if Margaret not only knew about it, but was somehow involved.

Could Margaret have been the person who killed Carol?

When police interviewed Alan and Margaret, Allan denied, ever, saying that he wished Carol was dead.

Margaret years later said she had no memory of ever having a conversation like the one Jane was talking about now.

Of course, Margaret has never been charged with Carroll's murder and has always completely denied any knowledge of it or participation in it.

So again, police had no concrete evidence Alan had been at the crime scene, but they believed he had orchestrated Carroll's murder.

They believed there might be a hit man involved, that Alan may have paid someone to have Carol killed.

But once again they didn't have enough evidence to go forward with a case.

So again Alan and Margaret were released.

Police went back through the investigation material again, They went through thousands of documents.

Again.

This time, they changed their strategies slightly.

They realized they might not have enough to charge Alan with murder.

That they felt they did have enough to charge him and Margaret with conspiracy to murder.

For that, the ITV documentary explained, they only needed to prove that Alan and Margaret paid someone to kill Carroll.

They didn't need to figure out who the actual hip man or hit woman was.

During this time, police were recording conversations between Alan and Margaret.

In the documentary, police pointed out Alan and Margaret didn't confess to anything, it was more what they didn't say that made them believe they were.

Still hiding things.

For example, when they were talking about being arrested, Alan said, quote, I don't want to say anything because they might have end quote, and then he trailed off and got quiet.

And it was also picked up on tape that Margaret told him multiple.

Times to keep his mouth shut.

Finally, Alan and Margaret were arrested and charged with conspiracy to murder Carol.

Alan and Margaret both pleaded not guilty, and they both went to trial.

Allan and Margaret's trials started in summer of twenty twenty four in Luton Crown Court.

The prosecution focused on Alan and Margaret's love affair and the motives financial and otherwise for why they said Alan and Margaret needed Carol out of the way.

The prosecution said the killing was a result of Alan and Margaret's quote passionate but forbidden An adulterous affair end quote.

Carol's son, Dean Morgan, testified about what happened on the day of his mother's murder.

He said when they got back to the shop at ten thirty pm after the movies, Alan had told him to go upstairs and make a cup of coffee.

He said that as he went through the kitchen to get the coffee, he heard the family dog, Simon, in Jane's bedroom whining to get out.

He said, quote the door was closed and he.

Couldn't get out.

Simon usually had the run of the flat and the shop.

I let Simon out.

I made Dad a cup of coffee end quote, which brings up another question.

If the two witnesses who said they saw Carol at around eight thirty pm were right and Carol was walking the dog, then presumably the dog.

Was with Carol.

So how did the dog end up locked in the bedroom.

Dean talked about his shock after the arrests.

He said Alan had assured him that it was all just a mix up, but Dean said they got into an argument after that, and that he and Alan had not spoken since.

Side note here, I cannot imagine what those children must have gone through first to lose their mother in such a brutal way, then to live with Margaret and Allen for all those years.

I find myself wondering what the relationship was like, and if they ever talked about that night, and how they are feeling now wherever they are.

I hope that they have found some peace.

On June nineteenth, twenty twenty four, Alan Morgan was convicted of conspiracy to murder Carol, but Margaret was acquitted.

She walked out of court a free woman.

Meanwhile, Allan was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of twenty two years, which means at his age he will almost certainly die behind bars.

Finally, Carroll's family had some justice.

Carl Foster said he was happy that Allan had been brought to justice, but he said police would continue looking for the higher assassin and anyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to kill Carroll.

The prosecuting attorney stated they believe the Chinese puzzle box drawer was evidence that Alan had told the killer how that drawer.

Could be opened.

The prosecution said they believe Allan had promised the hit man money from that drawer and from the register as partial payment for the murder.

The prosecution said the motive for the murder was money, but not the money from the shop, Allan's bigger financial problems.

The prosecution said Allan was facing financial ruin and that he wanted the life insurance payout if Carol died.

They said that insurance.

Payout allowed him to pay off the loan from the shop and start fresh with his lover, Margaret.

The Justice Martin Spencer said, quote, it is apparent that divorce was not a viable option.

On the jury's verdict, you decided on the alternative option, which was to get rid of Carol by having her murdered.

Her life insurance would clear the debt of the business.

It further meant you were free to continue your affair with and eventually marry Margaret Spinner end quote.

The judge also talked about Carroll and what a good person she was, saying that Carol was a thoroughly admirable person and adding quote she did not deserve to die, and I have no doubt that if she met her death, her final thoughts would have been with her two children, then aged fourteen and twelve end quote.

Police say they've accepted the fact they may never find out who the actual killer was, but they've also said they won't stop looking.

I'm Catherine Townsend.

This is Helen Gone Murder Line.

Helen Gone Murder Line is a production of School of Humans and iHeart Podcasts.

It's written and narrated by me Catherine Townsend and produced by Gabby Watts.

Special thanks to Amy Tubbs for her research assistance and to James Wheaton for legal review.

Noah Kamer mixed and scored this episode.

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