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On December third, twenty twenty five, forty year old Charity Billis and her six year old twins, a daughter and a son were fatally shot at their home in Bonanza, West Arkansas.

As we said last.

Week in Part one, Charity had been going through an ugly divorce battle with her husband, a fifty six year old local doctor named Randal b Alis.

They had been battling in court for months, and on December second, Charity and Randall went to a divorce hearing in Fort Smith.

As we've said before, we're not sure what the exact status of that divorce is now.

What we do know is that on December second, Judge Shannon Black gave Charity and Randall a ben shorter, finalizing their divorce.

However, in order for a divorce to become final with the court, a written decree has to be filed.

With the court.

According to court papers, Charity filed a request for an emergency hearing before this could be done.

This hearing was supposed to take place on December third.

When Charity didn't show up for that hearing, someone called for a welfare check and that's when Charity in the children's bodies were found in the home.

On December fourth, Randall All us his attorney Michael Pierce, filed to dismiss the divorce action due to Charity's death.

Charity's son, John from a previous relationship, has also filed his own legal.

Motion pertaining to what he claims is his mother's half of the estate.

This is a complicated case and it is still unfolding since then.

Some of Charity's family members and a lot of news stories have commented on the alleged domestic violence in the home, allegedly perpetrated by Randall.

But this week we got the transcript of Charity and Randall's divorce hearing.

For the first time, we will hear Randall's side.

As it turns out, there were allegations of domestic violence and abuse on both sides.

Hopefully this new information will help us.

Figure out what was really happening behind closed doors in that house.

I'm Catherine Townsend.

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The Sebastian County Sheriff's Office has been putting out information about the case.

To their credit, they've released quite a bit of detail about what's going on, but obviously, as we said last week, since it is an ongoing investigation, there is a lot that we still don't know.

We know that Charity and her little son and daughter were all fatally shot.

What we don't know yet is who shot them or why.

Charity's family, her father Randy Powell, and her adult son, John Powell, have been very outspoken about the fact that they believe doctor Randal Billis was involved in the deaths of Charity and her six year old twins.

While the bodies of Charity and the kids were sent to the Arkansas Crime Lab in Little Rock and were waiting for an autopsy to determine the exact cause of death, it didn't take long for police and media to focus on Charity and Randall's relationship, which had been unraveling behind closed doors for months.

The divorce was declared final one day.

Charity and her children were found dead the next day.

As we reported last week, Charity was Randall's third and fourth wife.

They originally married.

In May of twenty twelve, around four months after Randall's second wife, thirty four year old licensed practical nurse Shauna, died at her and Randall's home of a gunshot wound to the head.

Shawna's death was ruled a suicide.

Randal told police his relationship with Shauna had been volatile and that he was in the process of divorcing her.

In fact, at the scene, officers noted boxes in the living room that looked as if someone was packing to leave, and Randall actually made a comment to one of the officers of the crime scene saying he wanted to call his attorney from the crime scene and telling me wanted to call the divorce off.

The officer noted in his report he told Randal he couldn't have access to his phone and that Randall got irate when detectives wanted to question him, further, saying that the case was cut and dried, but there was also evidence that Shawna shot for the ammunition that killed her herself.

She was seen on camera in Walmart buying those bullets.

In the end, Randal was never arrested or charged in connection with shawn His suicide.

After marrying in twenty twelve, Charity and Randall got divorced in October of that same year.

It's not clear why they decided to divorce, but according to court documents, they had a major incident in twenty thirteen that might shed some light on why they were futing at that time.

According to court transcripts from the twenty twenty five divorce hearing, Charity admitted that she pulled a gun on Randall during a domestic argument in twenty thirteen, though she stated that he had also pulled guns on her multiple times in the past.

So you have these two completely different stories of what was actually going on behind the scenes.

And then it got even stranger because Randall's lawyer, Michael Pierce, asked Charity during these divorce proceedings about a book that Charity had allegedly written, though Charity insisted Randall also had a lot of input into what she wrote in that book, which we'll get to in a second.

The book described alleged abuse that Charity suffered as a child, but according to Charity, it was never published.

From the transcripts of the twenty twenty five divorce court hearing, we actually learned that prior to February fifteenth or sixteenth, twenty twenty five, around the time of the domestic incident between Charity and Randall, that Charity and her father Randy Powell had not spoken, according to what she told the court.

In ten years after the fifteenth she reached out to her father and they started texting.

Then they began texting hundreds of times.

They referred to an incident in court where Charity pulled a gun on Randall back in twenty thirteen.

Randall alleged that after that event, Charity went to jail and that it was during that time that Randy Powell and his wife took custody of John Powell, Charity son.

Randall stated that Randy Powell had actually insisted on taking custody of John in exchange for bailing Charity out of jail.

We don't have any way of pulling this case in the court record because the record has been expunged, but it becomes very clear in reading these divorced transcripts from twenty twenty five that Charity and Randal by Alice had very different narratives regarding what was going on over the time period from twenty thirteen to twenty fifteen.

Charity admitted that to get her out of legal trouble involving the incident where she pulled the gun on Randall, that Randall had paid lawyers eighty thousand dollars over a period of two years, and at some point after the case was expunged from the record, Randall and Charity reconciled.

They got back together and remarried in November of twenty fifteen.

According to marriage license records, she was thirty, he was forty six.

In August of twenty fifteen, there was another incident, this time between Charity and her stepmother, Sonya Powell.

Just a quick note here, we're always referring to Randal Billis as Randall because Charity's father's name is Randy Powell, and I don't want to.

Confuse the two.

The backstory to this was that in twenty fifteen, Sonya and Randy Powell had been caring for Charity's son John.

That incident hinged on something that took place on August twenty eighth, twenty fifteen.

Sonya and Randy were at the Sebastian County Fair and they had John with them.

Sonia claimed she and her her husband, Randy, came to visit with John.

According to police reports, Sonia stated that she had had John in their physical and legal guardianship for almost two and a half years, so that would match the twenty thirteen timeline.

Sonya stated in June of twenty fifteen, the court had dissolved that guardianship.

John went back to live with his mother, Charity and her husband Randall.

Sonya also said she.

And Randy had cared for John Powell on and off for his entire lifetime.

On that night, she claimed she and her husband Randy saw Charity and John at the fair.

She said she was coming toward them to say hi to John, and at that moment, Randal b Allis came up from behind her, grabbed her by the shoulder and arms, and spun her around and threatened to kill her and her husband Randy.

Sonia said she grabbed his shirt in response to that.

Then there was a Greenwood police officer named Detective Nicholas Driscoll, and they ended up arresting Sonya Powell and charged her for a battery offense against Randall.

She pleaded not guilty.

Now.

She claimed in her core.

Papers the detective only showed up at the end of the event when she was grabbing Randall's shirt, and that the detective didn't see the beginning when she claimed Randall put his hands on her first.

Eventually, the restraining order that was put in place was removed, the case was dismissed with prejudice, and there was no further legal action taken after that, so by that time Charity and Randall were back together.

This time before tying the knot, Charity and Randall had a prenuptial agreement in place.

They signed it in October of twenty fifteen, shortly before they married for the second time.

The prenup stated that each of them, Charity and Randall, had property that they had acquired prior to the marriage, and they claimed they had each divolved the status of those properties and the value of their states to each other.

The prenup stated that if they divorced, they agreed that neither one of them would have any claims to the personal property of the other that had been individually acquired.

Randall agreed to support Charity financially as long as the marriage continued, but it was stated that in the event of a split, he would pay Charity ten thousand dollars and that was it.

The prenup also stated neither of them would be allowed to inherit the other one's personal property in the event of their deaths unless they were married for twenty years or more, in which case either of them would be allowed to inherit.

But it's confusing because the prenup is pretty clear.

But then you have the question of what is individual property and what is joint property because at some point they did buy a home together, the home that Charity and the kids were living in at the time of their death.

Charity's father, Randy Powell, has told crime Online and other media sources he believes Randal wanted to kill Charity for what he called financial gain, and that that's why Randall had filed for the divorce dismissal after Charity in the kid's bodies were found.

But is there any truth to that?

Does that make sense?

Charity and Randall were fighting about money, perhaps not surprisingly, they had very different stories about finances when they testified at their divorce hearings.

They don't dispute that Randall Powell was the sole breadwinner as an independent physician.

He estimated his salary was around four hundred thousand dollars a year.

Charity had a nursing degree, but until this point had never obtained a nursing license, so she was a homemaker.

According to County Property records.

Charity and Randall bought their home together, described by the Sebastian County Assessor as a four bedroom, four bathroom just over twenty five hundred square foot home, in twenty seventeen for four hundred and thirty five thousand dollars.

Today that property is worth around seven hundred and fifty to seven hundred and sixty thousand dollars.

We wondered if, since this property was bought together after the marriage, if presumably it might not fall under the umbrella of the prenup and would be something that could possibly be divided up in case of a divorce, And it turns out that that was addressed in Randall's court filings.

He actually asked the judge that when dividing their assets, that the court apply the conditions of the prenuptial agreement to their real estate and personal property.

Randal and Charity maintained separate checking accounts.

She claimed he controlled all the finances.

He claimed that due to her spending, she would not be a good steward of their money.

Randal testified that he replenished her bank account to pay off her credit card debts, putting in around ten thousand dollars every month or two.

He admitted they did argue about money.

He testified that they argued, for example, about how many packages that Charity would have delivered, and also about her cosmetic surgery.

He said in front of the judge, quote, I wasn't able to put money into my retirement account for quite some time now because of your excesses, having your nails done all the time, having your eyebrows done, your eyelash is done, laser therapies, your lips done, your breast done twice, getting all of these cosmetic things.

Every week you would go and do a facial, you would do fillers end quote.

I want to note here the reason Randall speaking directly to Charity is because she was representing herself in court.

He had an attorney, Michael Pierce, but Charity was questioning Randal directly.

Charity claimed that all of their bank accounts were inexplicably empty and that Randall had not shown her any tax information in twenty twenty four.

She also stated, when it came to the home equity line of credit that Randall had taken out on their house that he said was to build an addition to the home, that he never allowed her to know what was going on with that money, which he denied.

Randall stated in court he wanted to stick with what was in the prenup, giving Charity ten thousand dollars in the event of a divorce.

But he also said that by his understanding, she would also be entitled to half the value of the marital home.

She would get her vehicle, a BMWSUV that he had gifted her.

He would keep his vehicle and be responsible for his student loans.

So the next question is who was really abusing the children.

Charity said Randall was abusive.

He hit back, accusing her in court of lying, coaching the children, and alienating him as a parent.

Things got ugly at that court hearing.

We know that Charity and Randall got into a huge fight on February sixteenth, twenty twenty five.

Charity accused Randal of trying to choke her and of endangering the children.

But again, not surprisingly, they have two very different accounts of what went down that day and what has happened since then.

We know some things for sure.

We know that Randall was charged with aggravated assault, third degree domestic battery, and two counts of endangering the welfare of a minor because the children were present in the home during the assault.

In October of twenty twenty five, Randall negotiated a plea deal.

He accepted a single charge of misdemeanor third degree domestic battery.

He was sentenced to a one year sentence, suspend it, a fifteen hundred dollars fine, and was ordered to attend a domestic violence program and to have no contact with Charity.

Charity told her friends and family she was upset about this deal.

She did not feel that Randal had gotten the punishment that he deserved.

A side note about choking.

Choking is a major red flag in domestic violence cases.

We've talked about this a lot on this podcast.

In fact, studies show if a woman is choked by her partner or a husband, he is much more likely to kill her later.

Experts say victims who experience what they call non fatal strangulation by an intimate partner are seven hundred and fifty percent more likely to be murdered by that partner in future.

After the split and after the choking incident, Randall rented a townhouse in Fort Smith with two bedrooms.

He told the judge he hoped to host the children there for visits and eventually possibly moved to another home.

Charity claimed that Randall was a narcissist, one whose coercive control led to her and her children living in terror.

Meanwhile, Randall claimed Charity was the abusive one.

He said she alied to the children and coached them.

Since we don't know what happened inside that house, we do have to consider the possibility this could have been some type of murder suicide situation.

Again, until the autopsy in the forensics are back.

We don't know.

We just have no way of knowing for sure.

Again, if Randall is suspected of this crime, we have no idea of what his motive would have been.

On December second, at that.

Final hearing, Randall was awarded joint custody of his children, which would have been an improvement from the situation he had been living in since February, where Charity basically had full custody of the children.

Charity's son, John, has stated Randall was the abuser in his relationship with Charity, but in twenty twenty, John, who was seventeen years old at the time and living with Charity and Randall, filed a petition for removal of disability of minority.

Basically, he was asking the court to emancipate him from his mother and his stepfather.

When he filed that petition, John was a couple of months.

Away from his eighteenth birthday.

He had graduated from Greenwood High School that year, and he had a job at Atwoods and Fort Smith.

The court allows anyone who is sixteen or older and meets certain criteria to obtain majority to be treated as an adult, and that's what John did.

The petition talked about an incident that happened when John was living at the home with Charity and Randall.

John alleged that on May fourteenth, twenty twenty, that Charity and Randall slashed the tires of his two thousand and five Ford fifty one fifty truck with a knife or ice pick, deflating them and ruining them.

John had bought the car himself and had the title listed in his name.

John also asked for compensation from Charity and Randall for the tires.

He said they were worth eleven to twelve hundred dollars each.

He asked the court to give him his personal property back, personal property he said was at Charity in Randall's home.

The court awarded him his property and the cost of the tires, So which one of them was abusive Randall, Charity or both.

In the transcripts that we received of Charity in Randall's divorce hearing via Foya, we do get some more insight into what was going on behind closed doors.

The following will be a paraphrased account of the court transcripts.

Charity told the court the children were afraid of Randall, but Randall testified he was seeking full custody and that Charity had abused the children.

Charity, representing herself, was allowed to question Randal directly when she asked him in front of the judge how it was that he was claiming she abused them.

He replied, quote, you systematically lied to them, and you took six weeks after we separated to instill lies into them, and specifically about the abuse they obtained supposedly by me while you were in the hospital for two days.

Randal was asked about his relationship with his older, now adult three children that he had with his first wife, Donna.

He told the court he had no relationship with any of those children right now, because he claimed they were systematically turned against him by their mother.

Randal stated that on the date of the big fight with Charity February sixteenth, twenty twenty five, that it was Charity who attacked him.

He said this happened after he grabbed her phone.

He said she was rageful, hitting me and kicking me.

He said, to defend him, he set Charity up on the bathroom sink so he could have more room to open the door and get out.

Randal said Charity instigated the fight.

He claimed what their children have stated about the incident since to counselors regarding being afraid of him is due to Charity's coaching.

He said that Charity had quote poisoned them and you have damaged them, severely damaged them end quote.

Randal testified his and Charity's life together was pretty idyllic.

He said they would often talk about how blessed they were.

He questioned her directly about how she could say this if he was, as she alleged, abusive.

She responded that Randal used classic coercive control moves.

Then, Randal testified, approximately nine months before the February sixteenth incident, that Charity quote underwent a drastic transformation.

You were drinking a bottle of wine every day.

You were smoking marijuana heavily end quote.

Randal testified that Charity had stopped drinking and smoking pot, but he claimed she continued to lie.

To him about various things.

Randal stated that Charity had started to glare at him in a hateful way and that he truly began to believe she hated him.

Randal told the court he wanted full custody because he claimed that Charity quote poisoned those children.

You abuse them in a sick manner.

I'm not interested in you seeing the children end quote.

Randal stated the kids were normal and happy and doing well in school.

He alleged that Charity had told them lies about what Randal allegedly did to her.

Now, he said, quote, I have evidence that they are miserable, absolutely miserable.

They live fearful, miserable lives now, and that's your doing.

One hundred percent you're doing end quote.

Randal claimed that Charity also lied to the medical board about him taking heroin.

He said as a result of that, she had blown up his life.

He said he had seen psychiatrists to comply with the mandatory court order counseling that he had taken medications, but he stated that he was doing very well months down the line.

So I want to go back to what precipitated this February sixteenth incident.

Charity claimed in court that on February eighth, Randal told Charity that he was leaving her, that he wanted to find someone who loved him in the way that he needed to be loved.

Then, she said she visited a divorce attorney, but Randall claimed that after that that they reconciled.

He said Charity said she did love him, which is what he claimed he wanted to hear.

Randall said, for a little while he thought everything would be okay, that maybe Charity didn't actually hate him, But he said he now believed she had always hated him, and that that's why, for example, he never met any of your old friends.

He believed she had been talking bad about him to people for years.

While Charity was questioning Randal in front of the judge, Charity said that it wasn't her intention to alienate him.

She said, quote, I truly believe you're capable of love.

All you want is control and money end quote.

Then Randall's witnesses took the stand.

One of Randall's colleagues from Mercy said he had worked with Randall for twelve years.

He said he also knew Randall on a personal level.

He said in all that time, Randall was professional and he saw zero signs of anger.

We learned that Randall is working again.

According to the divorce court transcripts, Randall testified on December second that after he was hit with the felony charges following the incident in February, Randall went on voluntary leave, but once those charges were pleaded down to the single misdemeanor, Randall requested that he'd be allowed to return to work, which the hospital team and the board of managers voted on and the legal team reviewed.

After all that was done, Randall was allowed to go back to work.

He told the judge on December second that he has been working again as a doctor since late October.

So Michael Pierre, Randall's lawyer, brought up the book that she had written again.

In that book, in a chapter called Lies Always Haunt, Charity wrote in the book she lied about Randall abusing her and that luckily he had forgiven her.

Now this was back in twenty thirteen.

Charity now claims in twenty twenty five that what she wrote in the book was a lie.

She said she did that so that Randall would pay the eighty thousand dollars in lawyer's fees.

Charity stated she believed Randall had dissipated all marital assets and that Randall quote clearly wants to leave me with nothing and he wants to take my kids end quote.

Randall and his attorney asked Charity, if Randal was so abusive, why she would return to the marriage.

They pointed to text messages Charity sent after February sixteenth, in which she begged him to come back as evidence.

Charity stated Randal used coerce of control on her, stating quote, that's also a very common tame with not to poke the bear.

But with this personality, this control in every way, financial control, coercive control, when to go to bed, control when to eat, control who you can talk to, the friends you can have.

But I found peace even in that until I saw that leaking into my children and they started walking on eggshells all the time, and you can see his rage coming end quote.

The judge finally ruled on this divorce.

She stated the marital home would be split, the home equity line of credit paid off, and then after that the home would be auctioned off within sixty days.

Randal and Charity would split the proceeds of the sale.

The judge then.

Addressed the credibility of Charity and Randall.

She stated she found Randall more credible.

She said, quote, the court finds that the plainiff has some credibility issues.

This is primarily based on the investigator's testimony regarding the Hamilton House interviews, meaning the interviews with the children that Randall's witnesses had claimed seemed coached.

The judge ruled Charity and Randall would each receive their personal vehicles.

The judge ended by saying, quote, this court has some very serious concerns with both of you.

There has been a lot of history, I believe, based on the evidence presented to me, of domestic violence.

The plaintiff has pulled a gun on the defendant.

The defendant has pled to recklessly endangering the planiff in a misdemeanor domestic battery, and the court has to consider as one of the factors in determining custody whether or not domestic violence is in the home, and I have not heard any testimony fortunately of domestic violence as it relates to the children, or found any to be credible, and I'm not including the children on the order of protection end quote.

The judge ruled Randall and Charity would have joint custody of the children.

Randall would have them for two weeks at a time, followed by Charity for one week.

After six months, the situation would be reevaluated.

The schedule was due to start on December fifth, two days after Charity and the twins' bodies were found.

The judge stated that she was quote concerned about the plaintiffs manipulation and control and any future harm to the children end quote.

She meant Charity.

The judge wrote that Randall quote has been compliant with treatment.

He has presented evidence of stability and safety.

His risk to others is low.

He does not demonstrate antisocial or narcissistic personality traits that could potentially compromise his judgment or put others at risk.

He does not have mania, psychosis, problems with impulse control or substance use.

Neither party shall discuss the case or adult issues with the minor children outside of a therapeutic setting.

Absentth the advice of the minor children counselor, Charity had pulled the children out of school and been homeschooling them.

The judge ruled the children be re enrolled in school, and if Charity and Randall disagreed, the judge ruled to give Randall final say over their educational decision making.

The judge ordered child support in the amount of two thousand, six hundred and twenty eight dollars a month, which Randal was supposed to start paying immediately.

One question that has come up a lot in this confusing and pretty chaotic case is were Charity and Randall actually divorced at the time of the murders.

From what the judge stated in the transcripts, she decided the conditions of the divorce on December second.

According to my understanding, under normal circumstances, the divorce would have been finalized a day or two later once it was officially entered into the court record.

But then Charity's son, John filed a motion to get her half of the marital state.

He stated in his court filing he does not believe Charity Lie left a valid last will and testament.

He believes that because the children she had with Randall are also dead, according to the laws of the state of Arkansas, John Powell thinks he should be entitled to inherit the estate of his mother.

John stated in his petition the value of the estate was unknown.

There have been a lot of strange developments in this case, even over the last week.

As we said last week in Part one, the divorce was declared final on December second, but then on December fourth, one day after the bodies were found, Randal Biallis's attorney followed emotion arguing the divorce should be dismissed because it wasn't technically finalized.

On December eighth, the judge ruled the marriage of Charity and Randall would instead be abated, meaning put on pause.

Legally, normally, this is something that can be used as a tool if couples want to try to reconcile or if there are legal issues that need to be resolved.

But if the spouse dies before the final.

Degree is issued, there's something called abatement by death.

It means that the divorce action ends and the couple remains legally married while the estate claims are being worked out.

So it's unclear what the legal status is now whether Charity and the children's bodies will be released to John her Son or Randall, her husband after the crime lab is done with its testing.

John Powell has also asked the court to order when the crime lab is finished, that the body of Charity be released to John Powell.

He also asked in the court order that the bodies of his two half siblings be released to his care as well.

He says that he wants to make funeral arrangements for his mother and half brother and half sisters so that they can receive a proper burial.

Again, a lot of news stories have pointed to Randal by Allis as the possible killer.

But another thing that's very confusing to me after reading these divorce documents is if Randall did kill Charity and the kids, what was his motive.

Because we now know that the judge ordered.

That Randall have more custody of his kids, that the divorce stated that Charity would go from having sole custody to joint custody.

In fact, Randall was going to have the kids the majority of the time.

Randall's attorney, Michael Pearce, has told multiple media outlets.

Randal was actually going to be able to see his children more going forward.

He was actually due to pick them up shortly after the divorce was finalized.

Is there someone else that would have had a reason to hurt Charity?

Could this have been some sort of murder suicide situation.

Could she have felt, possibly that Randall was a monster and that if her children went back to him they would be in danger.

Could she have irrationally believed.

She was protecting them?

Again, we have to wait for information to come out via law enforcement, because while we can track down a lot of information through court documents and social media commentary, there is still a lot that we don't know about forensics and that we don't know about these killings.

But we will keep you posted as more information develops.

Investigators have not announced any suspects and have not arrested anyone in connection with this case.

They haven't even officially stated this was a homicide once again.

Randal Billis's attorney, Michael Pierce, has repeatedly stated Randall had nothing to do with Charity in the children's death, that Randal was devastated that he expected to be taking custody of his children, and he's now faced with the reality of planning their funerals.

Charity's social media posts and the months before her death were getting increasingly desperate, she posted on the news website KFSM five.

News Facebook page.

In August.

She claims she had written a letter to Sebastian County prosecuting attorney Daniel Schue.

She said Daniel would not accept a letter from her regarding alleged domestic violence by Randall.

The judge, Shannon Blatt.

Who granted the divorce, finalized the hearing by saying, quote, I have a little sticky note that says, don't dislike each other more than you love your children.

And your children deserve love, and they deserve that from.

Both of you.

I expect you to put your children first and make them your priority and make sure they are raised in a happy, healthy and loving environment.

End quote.

We said, this case continues to have a lot of twists and turns.

Even the judge, Shannon Blatt, has been the target of alleged threats.

On December twelfth, twenty twenty five, forty twenty nine News reported that Shannon Blatt, the judge who ruled on the divorce, told police that Charity's father Randy Powell called her on the day Charity and her children were found dead at their home.

She said Randy was in a rage.

Judge Blatt wrote a letter to both attorneys Charity's and Randall's, discussing the phone calls she received on December third.

In that letter, which was dated December eleventh, she wrote that Randy Powell, Charity's father, accused her the judge.

Of being responsible for Charity's death.

The letters stated that quote specifically, mister Powell stated the judge might as well have pulled the trigger herself, and that the judge essentially killed his daughter and grandchildren.

Randy also stated the court has blood on her hands and asked if the court was still going to keep him from his grandchildren end quote.

The judge was so disturbed by this call that, according to court records, someone at the court reported the call to the Fort Smith Police Department, and they apparently took this seriously because the police chief, according to news reports that cite the police department call logs, ordered extra security for Judge Powell.

Forty twenty nine.

Knews spoke to Judge Powell about her reaction.

What did she think when she heard about what happened inside that home.

The judge told the news station.

Quote, I don't know how to describe it, Sir tears, heart broken, unbelievable, and anger thinking maybe I was dreaming of somebody having a nightmare in that way.

Maybe somebody will wake me up and this wouldn't be true.

End quote.

I'm Katherine Townsend.

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