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Hey you, guys, and welcome to this week's episode of Throttle Therapy with Me Catherine.

And this week we're going to do something a little bit different because I'm not racing until Vegas, and I'm not sure we've even announced that I'm doing Vegas.

So here you are, folks, you heard it here first.

I'll be doing Vegas in a cup car with Desnuda Tequila as the primary sponsor, and of course ELF on board as well, very much looking forward to that.

I am going to North Carolina in a couple of days because we've got a ton of meetings in advance of next year and I've got to do this for Vegas.

And it's been a minute.

It feels like I'm completely out of touch with the racing world, even though it's only been a couple of weeks.

So I'm heading up there hopefully to get a bunch of things sorted and do some B to B and what kinds of fun stuff, visit the NASCAR production facility, get merchandise sorted, you name it.

We're on it.

So heading up there later this week, and as such, I have no racing to talk about, per se.

We have some exciting interviews coming up.

But Grace, my wonderful producer, said that we had a lot of questions come in on different forums about things that we're doing on Throttle Therapy and about catherine everyday life, about racing whatever.

However, she has compiled a list of all of your questions and we are going to do a Q and A because I encourage you all to ask questions and it would be remiss of me to then not address them.

So this week we are doing Questions Answer with Catherine and Grace.

Hi, Catherine, Hi, Gracie.

This is so exciting.

I'm really excited to.

Be on the pod.

She's normally behind the scenes, folks, and now she's front and center.

Yeah, look at us.

Okay, so let's go to do some of these questions.

The first one is what are the gross realities of being a driver that people don't talk about?

Gross, isn't you?

I guess?

So?

Yeah, gross realities of being a driver.

Okay, I can tell you the first one that graces me out.

So boys are typically way worse.

Obviously it is a generalization.

I am aware there are lots of very hygienic boys out there, but for the most part, the teammates I've had have not been.

And you wear fireproof underwear, race suits, et cetera, et cetera, and ballet clava and to me, once I've worn a ballet clava once, it's dead.

To me, it needs to be washed, and it needs to be like properly washed as well.

I'm not talking like quickwashed.

I'm talking about all of my race gear goes through like the extended high And I don't know whether this is good for the fireproofness.

Is that even a word fire retardent abilities?

I don't know how to say that, but definitely grass me out that I have to put a race warm ballet clover on my face, so I never do that.

Also, something I've not really ever talked about is because you're wearing a ballet clava and a helmet all the time, it destroys your hair.

And so I have a bit of a complex about having really thin hair.

And I'm sure convinced that wearing a helmet all these years has been kind of going against growing a thick mane.

But yeah, most of the time, it's how sweaty you are.

And then when you get out of the car and you've done a race and you have to get on an airplane, you don't have time for a shower.

You're literally standing there.

And I don't think the boys do this either.

But I have these like giant size wipes, you know, like that you get in the hospital, and I buy them in bulk on Amazon, and so I like do an Italian shower and just wipe myself down, and you've got like face wipes and body wipes, and I just I feel like that's pretty gross.

I think also, I've never done this either, when you have to go to the toilet in the race car.

I was very early in my career and I was driving Champ car INDYCA for Jimmy Vassa, and he said, you got to learn to let go, Like, how why I'm never gonna need to But apparently if you crash with a full bladder, it's really really dangerous.

You can rupture your organs get stepsist like it's a big deal.

So he told me that I had to learn how to pee in a race car, and I have needed to two or three times.

Normally you're so sweaty you don't need to, but on the two or three times I've needed to, I've tried, and I cannot do it.

I have spent a lot of years training myself not to be my pants, so to actually try and do it when you're moving is I think it's impossible.

But I will say even more gross than that is when you're a sports car racing and you're sharing a car and therefore sharing a seat.

A lot of times I have had teammates who pee in the seat and don't have a problem with it, and then you're getting in and it's wet and disgusting, not just from their sweat, but you're sitting literally in their sweaty pea, and you can't think about it.

Otherwise it would you never you never race again?

Do you like I have to wear a diaper or just like goes into the suit like a standard.

It just goes in a suit and evaporates.

I guess it is.

Hot, yeah, But then I feel really bad for the crew guys as well, because they have the ones who have to get it out and clean it up.

Oh god, that's what I could never That's why I always have a safety pee before I get in the car, and then I don't need to deal with it.

That's insane.

Are you able to put your suit just like in a washing machine or how do you wash a suit?

I do a lot of drivers.

They dry clean their suits or have the teams do it.

But I am so particular about it because you know, if you wear gym gear day in, day out, and even if you wash it, it gets like a funk to it after a while.

Like I have all kinds of special detergents and stain removers, and like I also have really sensitive skin.

I'm going to get so much stick for this podcast.

But I can't use some detergents.

I have to use other ones, Like I can't use some of the free and clear ones either, And so I just do it myself because I want to know that everything is done the way I like it done, not that I'm OCD or a control freak or anything.

Cough coff.

I would not have thought that you could just put it in the washing machine, But that's sick.

I don't put it in the dryer.

I hang out Okay, got it, Which is why I get scared out of my brain sometimes because I'll hang it in a doorway so it's got air flow, you know, to dry it quicker and make it not funky, and I'll get up in the middle of the night and I'll see it and I'll scare the naming daylights out on myself.

Oh you like, think it's a person.

It's like a ghost.

Oh God, I can picture it.

Which GTD or GT three was the worst to drive?

Ooh?

Which GTD?

I mean?

It honestly depends on who is the team and who's setting it up and who's doing what we're and when.

The Porsche was the most unique in that you had to drive it differently to the other GT three cars, like the NSX or the Lambeau or the Ferrari.

So I think I struggled the most with the Porsche because it has a very small window of getting it right.

But they all they The thing is they beop and for those of you who don't know what BOP is, its balance of performance, not power.

So they make us all relatively the same lap time.

Although that is a job I would not want for all the tea in China because you can never really get it like race on race basis dead nuts, but they try and make it even right.

So some cars have more talk, some cars a turbocharge, some cars have more weight, some cars have more downfalls.

You're never going to get it exactly how you know to keep everybody happy, because there's always going to be fast cars and slow cars, and there's a lot of messing around the guys with that.

So I don't know when when you're fast because of a good bop, the car could still be a bit of a handful, but you're fast, and therefore you think, ah, this car is great because we're p one.

But I would say the nuances the Porsche was probably mid engined instead of being rear engined reil World drive.

It was just a little bit tricky to get the hangoff.

Over the course of your career so far, what's been the greatest invention it's improved your life as a driver?

Ooh.

I will say the hands device came in pretty early when I was go carding.

I don't know whether I did any car races without it.

Maybe I did.

I'm aging myself right now, but that's obviously saved a lot of lives.

And was implemented after Dale Earnhardt.

I know, save for barrier, one safer barrier that has made impacts and crashes.

Touch wood as I'm touching my table a lot more, a lot more palatable, a lot less rigid, So that has to definitely be one of them.

But everything is moving forward at such like great rates.

We test everything in the race cars, so that in the road car the development's already done.

We have the crash test dummies, so and that goes for everything, right, engine, power, chassy stuff, air stuff.

Like the OEMs implement what they learn on the race teams, which is why racing is so important to them, not just to advertise their wares to the general public, but to develop stuff too.

So with that development, with that competition and development, comes a lot of new ideas and a lot of safety stuff, and it's it's getting better and better.

Racing is inherently dangerous, it always will be, you know, the risks that you're taking going in.

But I like, you know, the windscreen in an IndyCar.

I think that's relatively new and that's obviously a good development for safety.

So there's been so many of them in the last couple of decades that it would be hard to just call out a few of them.

Is there anything that you want to be invented or you wish existed?

Good question.

I don't know.

I think the thing that scares me most is fire, and so we wear a lot of fireproof fire retardant stuff.

But I think my fear comes from back in the day when we use ethanol fuel and you couldn't see it when it was on fire.

When it was burning, it was like a clear haze.

All you could see was the haze, and from then it just I don't know, it just scared me a lot.

So maybe it would be really cool if we had like no fire, no fuel that could catch on fire or something like that.

There you go, guys, it's the next greatest thing you heard here first I got it.

So would you be interested in then, in like racing electric cars?

Not that those can't catch on fire.

I have raced electric cars, Oh when those things can bust by the way, they do catch on fire, and it is by sure, sure, But it's funny because we had to have a whole other safety training with the Formula E stuff where you have to jump away from the car because you can't be grounded because then you get electric uted.

Oh my god.

So that's a whole other thing to be scared of.

But I mean, as long as you follow the safety protocol with those, you should be okay jumping away from the car.

But yeah, you see all these testas and and electric cars that are reported on the news to just combust, and that's still scary.

I was at my spa a few months ago.

Now I'm one of the girls.

BMW's just caught fire, just decided to go up in flames, and nobody knows why, obviously from the engine department, department compartment.

And yeah, so I was at Timeless Esthetics and in the car park this BMW just spontaneously combusted and went up in flames.

And I think that's terrifying.

I don't know why it happened.

And can you imagine being in it?

No, it'd be awful.

So how do you feel about actually racing electric cars?

Does it feel different?

It feels very different because it takes away one of your senses.

Oh so when you're race an electric car, there's no noise, there's no engine noise.

Ah, so you hear is the world of the transmission, and so it is bananas.

You get used to it.

You have a lot of talk, so you have a lot of power straight away, but it also uses a lot of batteries.

So when I first started racing electric cars, gosh, I can't even remember, it must be like ten years ago.

We had to change cars mid race.

So we did like fifteen minutes on one car, and then we'd have to jump out and jump into another car because, yeah, because they didn't have the technology to be able to do more than fifteen minutes going relatively slowly as well, oh my god, because they're really heavy too.

And now obviously the technology has moved on and it's such where they can do full length races, but they're still there's still very much like fuel saving racism.

By fuel, I mean you're rejourning to the battery.

You're a strategist as much as anything else, and you've got all the bells and whistles that you have to play with.

We had some people ask when your merch store goes back up?

Okay, so merchandise is not an easy process if you have to be licensed to buy the different entities.

So for example, the team NASCAR, you yourself are a licensed entity and it's obviously across NASCAR and across the IndyCar So I'm in the process of working all of that out at the moment so that we have some really cool stuff starting at the beginning of next year.

It will be at the track and it will be online, and there won't be anything on my website until then because I want it to be really cool and I want people to love it, and I don't want to half ask anything if I'm going to do it properly.

If I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it properly.

So it will probably be January and it will be awesome.

How much input do you get into the most design A lot.

Well, as much as you want, so it can be done by the teams, it can be done by the sponsor, it can be done by you, it can be done by NASCAR, it can be done by the companies that produce the merch.

So it's really as much or as little as you want.

I think it's more important than just putting a name and a number on a T shirt is to have something that's authentically you and that you are proud of.

So I am going to sit with the folks at drop light, and we're going to come up with some really cool design stuff that I'm proud of and that I would want to buy myself.

Therefore, I would like my fans to have access.

To Okay, So do you typically reach out to potential sponsors or do they reach out to you sponsorship?

The age old question, So both.

When you are starting out in your career, it is one of the hardest things to do, and it is a numbers game, and you have to send out proposal of proposal, and it's more to do with who you know than what you know, and it's more to do with how much value they get than what it's costing you to race.

And I am not a salesperson in any way, shape or form.

So there are agents and agencies out there who do try and find sponsorship on people's behalfs.

The teams do too, and really it just kind of happens through one of those channels.

So agents, yourself, who you know, teams, series, et cetera, et cetera.

I think again, it's more you get introduced to somebody who introduces you to somebody else, and that company thinks that it's a great idea to put their name on the side of race car and do B to B because sponsorship is not about how many eyeballs.

I mean, it is to a certain extent, but it's more to do with the activation and the B to B and the impact that you have.

You can put your name on the side of my racecar for Vegas and nobody would give the monkeys.

It would get a certain number of eyeballs on TV unless you are there and you're meeting people, and people know what the product is and there's weekend in weekend out recognition of that name.

That's where the value comes.

And so to prove ROI to all the sponsors is a tricky prospect when it's immeasurable in a lot of ways.

You know, for example, there's Neuded tequila being on my car, that's great.

A lot of people will go and buy Doesnuda because they're like, oh, they sponsor NASCAR, they must be really cool.

They are go buy Dosnuda.

But the same with Elf.

Right, a lot of people see Elf on the side of my race car and they think that's really cool.

I'm going to buy ELF.

But where you really get them buying in is when you do stuff at the racetrack and when you do stuff behind the scenes, and so I'll do a big activation every year.

Does Neuter doing a ton of activations at the moment, And so when it's like repeatedly seen in different places and it's on the car, like you can do it once and get forgotten about.

If you're on the car every weekend or every other weekend, or like ten times a year, then it's that fan loyalty that you are building.

It's also about being at the track and meeting other people.

So does New to Concel tequila to Kroger for example, Right, Like if the Kroger people are there on a car and we're there on a car, and then they think it's a great idea to put Disney drink Kroger.

That's kind of immeasurable as to how much impact you've had that weekend through all the different channels.

But it's sometimes good, sometimes bad.

There's a lot of there's a lot of value.

Especially in NASCAR, you have a lot of eyeballs, a lot of people watch it, and racing fans tend to be the most loyal.

So they see a brand in like Bubba Wallace has Columbia, for example, and they're going skiing and they're like, oh, look Columbia because of Bubba, then they are going to buy that over something else because it's your favorite driver and they're a lot more loyal.

What kind of qualities do you look for in a sponsor when you're deciding who to work with?

So money fair, I mean, there is a lot of that that happens, especially early on in your career.

You're taking every opportunity that gets placed in front of you, and it depends on which situation you are, Like, I am not from money.

I didn't have a opportunity with a Penske, Organathi or somebody big early on in my career, so I had to scramble and I had to scratch and fight and do it all.

So typically the teams will have the sponsors and you'll be representing those sponsors that the teams have.

But if it's a sponsor that is you that you're taking to a team like an l then I think it's incredibly important that it is a good fit and it's authentic because what you don't want to do is it for it to be a one hit wonder.

So you don't want them to feel like it did nothing for them, and you don't want to feel like it's a product that you can't represent because you don't know anything about it.

Like it would be like me trying to sell viagra.

I mean that might work.

I don't know.

That might be a good one.

Actually, now i'm thinking about it.

That could be interesting because everybody would laugh.

But it's like Elf is very authentically me because I use their products.

I can relate to their products.

You know, drop Light have a bunch of different companies underneath them that are very authentic.

You got Desnudat during tequila.

Who doesn't Who doesn't love tequila?

Got I call water love love the electrolyte water.

You've got cool sign the watch is really cool, like plane inspired arrow inspired watches.

You've got coal plunge.

You use a cold plunge.

So it's really easy then to be like, this is super cool and if you're in the market for X, Y and Z, then why not do this as opposed to one of the other competitors.

So I think if you're looking at it and you get excited about it yourself, then it is a win wind for everybody.

And if you don't if it's me trying to sell wheelbarrows, I don't know, I don't know how excited I could be about wheelbear actually, having said that, I did break mine the other day, so maybe i'd be excited about it.

Who knows.

What are you using a wheelbarrow for a little bit of landscaping?

I have a couple of days where I was trying to get sorted around my house and my dad is not here.

I have a daddy to do list because my dad's a builder, and so I have a list laundry list of things that I like him to do.

And I haven't been racing, so he hasn't been out to visit me's so I had to do it myself, which is very depressing.

I moved four tons of stone wheelbarrow.

Yeah, it's good work out.

Though, Oh my god, that's good.

I like doing things myself.

I like to feel like empowered by being able to achieve these things myself rather than getting somebody else in to do it.

I don't know.

I'm also very stubborn kind of.

On that note, What are your favorite lake activities?

Oh, that's an easy one to talk about.

So I love living on the lake so much.

It's my refuge, it's my peace away from the races.

Honestly, it can be a little bleak in the winter because a lot of people have seasonal property up here, and so there's not that much to do when you can't be on the water, although being in Georgia means that it doesn't normally get that cold for very many days, and so you can normally be on the water in some capacity.

I'm not don't.

I don't spend that much time.

I probably average would say I get on the water maybe twenty to thirty days out of the year.

That's it.

But I love it.

I have a bunch of toys.

I've got obviously, a wakesurft boat, jet skis, kayaks, a motorcycle, and I just love you have motorcycles, Yeah, ride motorcycles, do you what I love?

Yeah, I'm very careful on them if my mom is listening.

And I just love being in the woods in the mountains, on the lake.

I love wakesurfing.

I honestly like floating.

I like hanging out on my dock with my friends, like I love a good dock party.

We move the fridge down there.

We just kind of like bob around the dock in the water on the lily pad and cute then we'll jet ski your pel computes and get a frozen ugarita or something, and it's just it's super nice in the summer to be able to do that.

Do you race on your jet ski?

Not really me.

I don't have anybody who wants to race me.

Unfortunately, otherwise I probably will.

What do you think has been the fairest and least fair criticism you received this season?

Oh?

All right.

I think least fair was Rockingham when I got taken out of Rockingham and I got the blame for that by a lot of fans who obviously didn't understand how passing works.

And I think that was because it was coming off the back of Phoenix, where I spun and took out squares.

And I think that criticism was fair.

I think it was harsh because I think if you looked at the weekend as a whole, we weren't slow.

It was compared to a lot of other drivers first time forays into Cup racing.

I don't think it was as bad as all that.

I think it was fine, apart from a couple of mistakes that I made that were very public and disappointing.

And I still stand by the apology that I said to Daniel, And you know, like, yes, that was fair ish, but the rocky am one't absolutely not.

I guess that's fair and unfair.

I guess we'll go with those two.

There you go perfect.

What is the fastest you ever driven?

Fustest I've ever driven is probably Indy IndyCar two hundred and forty something whilst an hour on the street.

That's crazy.

Does your neck hurt a lot?

No, You are sandwiched inn there, so your neck is padded out so that if you hit anything, obviously your neck compbounds around, your head combounce around, so you don't have to hold your head up through all those two forces.

You just kind of relax and let it lean.

Although I'm pretty sure nobody actually does that, and I'm pretty sure we will hold our heads up.

We're just used to it.

What part of your body gets hurt the most while you're racing.

Back, probably depending on the seat.

I've had comfortable seats, and I've had uncomfortable seats, and I've had seats, especially in sportscar racing when you're in the car for three hours.

My lower back when I'm in somebody else's seat was like a little sore after the weekend.

But I'm pretty lucky and I'm pretty resilient, even after all these years.

I think you put your body through so much abuse you kind of get used to it.

That makes sense.

I'man.

I feel like everybody's back hurts when they're driving for a while.

This is just.

Obviously different, just a little bit different.

Okay, what's dating like as a race car driver?

Dating is a race card driver is impossible?

I don't know.

I'm talking from my own personal experience.

I know a lot of female drivers that are happily married and coupled up.

I don't know whether it's as a race car driver or whether it's just individuals or not.

But it's tough.

It's really tough because I eat sleepa racing like, racing is life.

Basically, I need to get that stick.

Amy didn't I and I decided a couple of years ago that I am not dating anybody else.

I'm racing ever again because I did didn't end well for me, And it's tough.

It's tough because outside of racing, you have to be in racing to understand racing, So you have to have somebody that's very tolerant of you being away every weekend and you being away with thousands of men and you having a cooler job than they do.

So it takes like a really strong strong man to deal with that.

And then you know the fact that racing comes first and everything is also tough.

There are no concessions made.

It's not like, hey, babe, I've got this Christmas party that I need to go and do.

Are you coming well?

No, I've got this race to go and do.

Well.

You can miss that one.

No, you can't, there's no way.

Always amazes me how female drivers have kids as well, because like then you have somebody else that's dependent on you, and I just maybe I am too single minded about racing.

Maybe there's a happy medium, but I really think that in order to be successful, you do need to want that more than anything else in your life.

So you need to want it more than you want to have kids, more than you want to have a relationship.

It has to be the singular and most important thing.

Otherwise you're leaving something on the table because a lot of guys do.

But I think the guys have it easier.

And the reason I think the guys have it easier is because there's a lot more support that comes from being a guy driver, and you can have the You can have a wife that takes care of everything at home, looks after the kids, does everything for you.

Like I want a wife, I want somebody to take care of all the home stuff for me.

But then I would not I'm not attracted to somebody who's not alpha male, so therefore I wouldn't want somebody taken care of all of those things for me because it'd be weird because I still want to be the girl.

So I know that delves into a lot of issues with traditional roles, and I don't want to go down that route and piss anybody off.

But I feel like I'm in this very weird space.

It's been honest, and I wonder what's going to happen when I stop racing, because I wonder what kind of person I will then morph into.

Yeah, what do you see yourself doing when you get out of racing?

When I grow up?

When I grow up, I want to be I guess I've trained myself over the years to be a bit of an adrenaline junkie.

Whether that was meant or I think it was already intrinsically in me.

But I think I need to get my kicks somehow right, Like I need that competition, I need that adrenaline.

I need that goal oriented like thing that drives me.

I'm sorry, pun non intended, and I spoke to Christina about this.

Actually I need to get that itch scratched.

And so I also want to leave a legacy and I want to have had a positive impact because so many people have helped me and I wouldn't be here without them, and I feel like I need to do the same moving forward.

And so with Chevy and GM, we have identified a few female drivers that we are going to help and support and hopefully they can learn from my mistakes and I can mentor them and walk them through this crazy racing life and hopefully then hand over the baton to them and then their success will feel like my success and we can win together.

So I think that would be an important next step in my journey.

Or I'm going to hold up in my cabin in the woods on the lake and just walk my dog every day.

I don't know one of the others.

What is your dream car for daily driving?

Dreamcar for daily driving would be the nine to eleven Tobo.

Yeah, that's my dad's My dad has that car really yeah, lagoon green or something.

I don't know.

I'll send you a photo.

Okay.

Last couple ones are like about workout kind of stuff.

Cool.

I can talk about working out all day, every day.

Perfect.

What's your typical workout schedule slash routine?

My typical workout has transitioned over the years.

It's morphed because when you first get into driving, you are not conditioned for the abuse that your body takes and you're making your way up through the ranks, especially on open wheel because open wheel is the most physical, aggressive cars that you can drive.

So you have to literally have somebody do a plan for you, like Jim Leo at Pitfit, for example, who is spoken to on the pod, will come up with two days that you need to go and do in the gym to get your cardio where it needs to be and to get your strength and resilience to where it needs to be.

So you spend the first few years of your racing career doing that, and then you get to the point where racing kind of takes over and you are fit enough and strong enough to drive the race card just purely by racing right with a little bit less gym work a little bit more maintenance.

I would say that being strong and fit enables you to take that out the equation and you've got more capacity to endure.

You also get used to it, so you start off in racing where you're doing twenty minute races, and then you build up and then by the IndyCar Champ Card days you like two three hours in the car, so it's kind of like you step up into it.

Then you get really bored going to the gym all the time, and you find things that you like to do a lot of driver's cycle a lot I did.

I got burnt out.

I haven't touched my bike for a couple of years, really my mountain bike.

I have my road bike, I haven't And then I needed to find things to challenge myself.

So I decided to do an iron Man and see whether I could do that.

So the training for the iron Man was also the endurance training that I needed for racing.

So it killed two birds of one stone and it gave me a goal.

I did that and then I decided that was cool, great, but it wasn't.

I'm not a very strong swimmer and it wasn't for me.

I have run on and off, you know, three to twelve miles a day, three to five times a week since I was a teenager, and that for me is the only thing that keeps weight off me is running.

If I don't run, I get chubby really quick.

And it's important as well to be light.

But I have found in more recent years I've run less and less because it also running can like use muscle as well, so you lose muscle by running it off.

A couple of years ago, I found CrossFit, and I love it because it's a community and it's not racing orientated, but it keeps me fit enough and strong enough.

You have to do things in the heat to be able to take the heat, so I do a lot of stuff outside to be able to drive the race cars.

And I live in Georgia, so in the summer that's really easy to do because it's one hundred degrees and one hundred percent humidity.

But I do.

I love CrossFit, so I combine CrossFit and gym workouts and runs at the moment, and I have done that for the last two or three years.

And I think it's easy to monitor how you're doing because we have in body machines that measure your body fat and your muscle mass, and you know, you lose a couple of pounds of muscle mass and it's the end of the world.

And yeah, we were all very competitive about how much body fat we've got and how much muscle that we've got.

And it's it's good because it's also a little bit of competition.

And I know the things that I'm good at and the things that I'm not good at.

And there's some really strong people in the gym, and I like the community aspect.

You know.

I'm always on the go, though.

I think it's really important just to move.

So whether that's wakesurfing or mountain biking, or walking the dog or whatever.

However I they're skiing, there is hiking.

There's never a dull moment, and I think that that activity is one of the most important things that people can do.

What is your strongest left.

So I've got a bum shoulder at the moment, and I've got an MRI this week on it.

I tore my rotator cuff in two thousand and six, so twenty years ago, and I never got it fixed because racing and I've been able to deal with it, and so sometimes it flares up, and sometimes it doesn't.

I would say bench was my strongest stuff.

What do you bench at the moment?

Probably not much.

I don't want to say.

I don't want to say because people will judge me one way or another.

No way, I would say, at the moment, it's probably I'm terrible with lower body, like my overhead squats, like with my shoulder.

I was like just with the bar saying my name's Jeff.

Though, yeah, I should absolutely do more flexibility work.

And I have a friend called Lauri who owns a bunch of yoga and pilate studios in the area.

And I need to do it because I think it would help.

But the problem is like finding the time when you're working out already at least once a day, sometimes twice a day, five times a week or more like then to do the flexibility stuff on top is sometimes hard.

So sometimes I'll go and I'll see all these you know, twenty thirty something women doing their little pulses on the reform machine, and there's me him.

I'm there shaking.

I'm like, come on, let's see how much you can deadlift.

I bet you can't deadlift two hundred pound.

Let's go straight up, straight up.

How do you work out on the road in between races?

A lot of times we don't, and a lot of times if we have time or we go in early, we will go and find a CrossFit gym, or we'll go and find a Barrie's or a burn boot camp or something like that.

Like when I go up to Charlotte, I'll alternate through a few things and try and do it with friends and just try and mix it up and make it interesting again, just so you're moving.

It's like the gains are made when you're home and when you're you're in a routine, because routine is so tough on the road, and eating is so tough on the road as well, so nutrition as well.

So I bring a lot of my own food and snacks and try and eat as clean as possible.

But it's not easy.

I mean it's also not easy at the racetrack when there's a lot of naught food and snacks that a lot of the teams put out that are tempting you.

And as soon as you go down that road, it's hard to bring yourself back.

So you just have to like not and just stick to the protein bars or whatever it is that you bought with you.

It's not easy, but you get used to it.

You did a cooking class in Nashville, right, I didn't, what were you cooking?

So in Nashville we were at a Disney DA event and they had a professional chef there, Garrett, and he said, what is a traditional English meal that your mum used to make that gives you the warm fuzzies and sign?

And so I was thinking about it, and I was like, bang is a mash?

Let's do bang is a mash cute?

We did a lot of like English food gets a bad rep.

Let's be honest.

I love it, obviously it does.

But everybody loved bang is a mash?

So I think it was a win win cute.

Okay, Catherine, That's all I got.

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