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Introducing Charlie’s Place

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Pushkin music, dance lyrics.

The creation of it, more than any judge's gabble, brought the races together.

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In the nineteen thirties, forties and fifties, segregation was the law, but one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules.

Segregation in the day, integration that night.

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And dance, Oh my god.

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We didn't worry about what went on outside.

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It was like stiffing in another world.

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Inside Charlie's place, black and white people could listen to music and dance together.

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Girl, I've see so many people up in there.

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It was grown and people from all over South Carolinas are jolly fish, sure please.

Charlie's was on the Chitlin Circuit where black artists could perform in the South.

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Heard of him.

Oh yees, God, Ruth Brown, j Brown, Curtis Mayfield, you're drifted with Otis Red.

At Domino, we had as many whites as we had blacks when they had a.

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Band, but not everyone was happy about it.

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But there was a lot of shooting.

Peoples running there in through the building and the shot and you know, they're just chaos.

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During that time, they was, you know, looking for Charlie and you saw the KKK.

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Yeah, they was dressed up in their uniform.

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The KKK set out to ray Charlie, take him away from here.

He wanted people to unite and some just did not want that.

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Everyone was paying close attention to the things Charlie did.

But did anyone know who Charlie really was?

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I think he came from Jamaica, someplace.

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I'm saving you from Georgia.

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They came from north Nobody knew exactly where.

Nobody talked about where he came from.

A lot of people knew him, but didn't really know him.

He was using another name.

Where he found out Charlie was big question mark.

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Was he a businessman, a showman, a criminal, a hero?

Charlie was an example, a power.

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They had to crush you.

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Charlie's Place a nightclub that defied segregation, A man who became a legend, A story that was nearly lost to time until now.

A five part series from Atlas Obscura and Rococo Punch in partnership with Pushkin Industries and presented by Visit Myrtle Beach.

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