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So this is I want to talk to this, talk with talk this over with you guys, because this is the last show we're going to do before next college National Championship.

And I throw it at one time I tried to go.

They turned it and I don't know, I don't know if I told you this, but my dad called me this weekend.

He say, and he was like, hey, did Fred go to Old Miss And I was like, no, I went to Missisippi State.

He's like he was pulling awfully hard for old miss of that last show.

And I was like, hey, I was like that, just a hater.

Just a hater, just a hater.

But he can't see Tana half a nice.

He came way to d C Crime.

I invited him to d C Prime and he come there and sit next to me, and I just felt like the whole whatever he had with him was came with him because the game wasn't going my way.

For a moment, I was like, he miss miss Dad, you know old Miss dis you know I got my daughter that old mission.

Like bro, he sat there and talked so much about old Miss.

I had to pull for the last.

And then he find himself.

I buy it, and you know how he does one of those leading you don't know you're going iris.

Then I'm like, yes, I'm glad that slept wrong.

Guy here, looks I had to pull for the last.

Existence you just got hated.

Man, I love, I'm a lover in this case, you're a hater.

Come on, man, if it was the last, I don't even know what the visit y'all live big.

Twin, you were the pulled for.

I'm pulling from Miami.

You ain't pulled for the the Eagles the other day when they was playing against the last n.

Here you are mississ State and then I'm talking about like your mom said, you could never go to Old Miss because it's got like let's go old Miss Willis.

Yeah, I'm putting last SEC team alive.

I had no other choice but to pull for.

And I gotta say this, I do love the story of Trinidad Chamblas.

It's a good story.

And I think he's a t MoU.

Uh listen to me, Listen to me.

I think he's a t MO.

Caleb will.

Got a little more.

I gotta think, got a little less, something different than them.

Calab Is.

I think he has a little different edge to him than than Caleb.

But he got that gamer in him.

So I just you know, I wanted the last SEC team.

Man, there's been three.

Years since we've been in the National Championship.

Three years.

I had to pull folks over for SEC because everybody can pay people now, So y'all not the only you know, shut up, you know nothing to say.

But we were talking about this earlier and I was like, the.

Teams like it's level now playing field.

We're back.

We're gonna be o.

We just got to stop eating each other live.

You know what I'm saying.

We got and we need a team to be on that pedestal.

Sure, sure, sure, sure.

We have the five teams in the playoffs, that's all.

Who's the last two of them?

So is there a sec I'm confused.

Is there one of those we got?

We got cheated?

Oh, it's got cheated by Miami by what happened?

Look at this, man, I believe that you see that referee get in the way.

You know, I'm just telling you, man, sometimes you need to watch the game a little closer.

Just watched the game a little closer.

You would have saw that the same hit that Miami got took in the first quarter, the first drive, and they said, old misgod didn't target.

We did that and then they kicked our guy at the game.

I want to be technical alart of cheating going on?

He deserves you want to be a guy like that.

I know what he wanted to talk about.

You want to talk about the passing afference at the end of the game, which, yeah, that was a passive friend, I'd told you pass interference.

Is that that our receivers took that.

They didn't even call blind out.

Stevie Wonder was out there.

All I know, y'all push that mane out there the end on.

That's what I saw.

All I know is they've been there before.

We got a plass in the firens that we didn't do, and they took a championship from us.

So they were just paying us back, saying hey, man, you know well, I ain't.

Got no dog in the fight now.

But I did almost go here in the out what almost with the other man was away, man, I was almost a hoosier man.

Make it up right.

Me and Randella was almost teammates in college.

Man, I went to listen, dude, if you take a trip to Bloomings.

You gotta stop lying.

It's not good for your soul.

What am I lying by now?

Because I can tell you got your life facing No.

Don't look at Randall Randall le I was the quarterback in Indiana when I was recruited there.

Hear his twin brother was playing corner.

I was gonna play corner.

They were gonna actually let me meet fred Woodson.

I'd go play wide receiver and two so I was handed to you, almost handed there, So I got to pull if you So you're talking about.

Let's gone.

So you're so you're rooting for Indiana, Like real, So first off, I'm rooting for Miami, partially because that's my guy, right, but also because I think, like, I really enjoy Washington play football.

I love it.

Bank They got Bane, they keeping messador, they got the offensive linemen like they get downhill, They're nasty there running back Nde rock too.

I give them the props, I know, That's what I'm saying.

And then a cursing bank man.

I can't cheer for back.

He managing it.

That's all we need.

Unlike especially why is he likable?

He made some big time throws.

You know, some people just got that thing about him.

I love Mendoza.

Mendoza is likable, like he had that that shit there spirit just hating Nombody just to hate him.

Sometimes he can.

And it's like a ten point spread right now, right, so they really think is gonna walk away.

I don't think it's gonna be no ten points spread.

It's gonna be a field goal game.

Really you think.

So it's the two best teams in college football.

Both can play defense.

Indiana looks they look they look good.

They are machine right now.

But get what when you got them two defensive ends that Miami got, they gonna make that drop back passing game hard for them.

I know, I know, but man, like, uh, those guys are really good, but that offensive line fora' is probably the best group.

How would y'all feel now that these kids are playing?

What you see is Miami fourteen games of fifteen.

That's a lot of games fourteen to fifteen.

How would y'all have failed?

Like, I know, we want to get to the championship.

It's different, boy, playing fifteen I figure out not having not Like it's one thing if that's your season, like you're used to it.

But when you're not used to it, the only thing you can do is have a.

Coach of to that psyche yourself out and say, look, you want to go to the next level.

That's how you got to go through it.

And you gotta have some depth, like your second screen is important if you're gonna play sixteen fifteen games.

I think about those guys from Miami and then they get drafted a couple of guys from Indiana, Like their off season is going to be so short.

They're gonna pop it on an eighteen game season, Like that's a lot of fun.

But I also think too, man, when it comes down to how things are done now on the college level, Man, they don't practice like we practice, you know what I mean.

They have morning practices now because you can't be out there and the heats.

Well I'm talking about the Miami Yeah, they.

Got morning practices.

They have so much other things going.

I was listening to one of the kids talking about where he didn't even lead.

He don't leave the facility at the times because he don't have classes.

Yeah, so he said, Yet everything you go through the morning practice, you go eat, go chill out, come back, play video games in the locker room.

They got so much stuff going on for this stuff.

It's almost like a a pro atmosphere forhm, you know what I mean.

And they just chill so they're gonna be well arrested.

But at the same time, too, man, you got one game, you know, I mean, you know you look at it as fourteen fifteen, it's one game, one game left, and every week that they was trying to get to where they got to, it was one game.

You know, we gonna.

See I'm watching we don't see maybe because it's different teams, but I've been just excited for a college football playoff yeah in a while.

Yeah.

I just decided for this for the simple fact man, that I feel like a little bit of what we saw growing up it's back.

You know what I mean?

Not being biased because I'm a Hurricane, but something about the Hurricanes being in the talks.

Of you know, college football.

You know, you know what I'm saying.

It's just something about it because it's not just our school, it's everybody that's from far and wide who's been Hurricane fans or who have been.

It comes with the hurt, it comes with it.

So like I enjoyed nothing more than watching Mike Hervey spanking garbage.

Cana is out of control.

I love him.

To be protected by all means this.

He's like rolling around somebody, but you all enjoy him.

His energy is infexious.

I love Michael Irving.

Listen, I just don't want him to spank one more.

Garbage can spank it.

See how they got.

No characters like that at U c l A Uh.

Didn't McMahon you like Jim?

Yeah, one of the McMahon's is a is you see maybe the wrestling one.

But yeah, but yeah, he's character for sure.

I know he's b while you guys never you see l a kind of blad.

It's like Potato Sally with somebody.

I mean, uh, what's his name?

Freddy Mitchell?

Right fast?

Freddy like fred fred Mitch Cainch prey all past, get up here?

You know Freddy Mitchell and a p friends.

They went to school together, right?

Nice?

No, I love me, sir, Freddie Mitchell.

He's still in Philadelphia.

All right.

Well, I think it's time to pay some bills, right, So, I don't know, do you want me to take one of these?

I think the fans have spoken, You think they have.

I don't think they want me to reading anything.

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Do you like that he's reading it in a soft voice like that?

Or do you like you know what I'm saying?

Like?

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I know, I stopped the young gz bank.

It's really helped, It's really healthy.

It's better because you're talking all that.

Distracted.

That was just hate.

Man.

I'm trying to get you off your game, just like him coming to d C Prime and hating nothing hurt.

That's I believe you did that.

By the way off the plane from Chicago.

I'm here, I'm dieballing.

You gotta enjoyed.

Yeah, Tanner was back there.

He had like fourteen f omega.

They was just there.

I was just so happened to pull up and they were sitting in the area.

I'm like, well, I ain't no Taylor had joined the friend he was back there stepping in anything.

I was like, what the heck?

Damn jud I said.

I literally asked them say, hey, can y'all hold it back area down for me?

So Glenn was like, well, this already reserved.

But it's too he'said how many season you?

Like?

It was just it's just me and my guy Jose.

He's like, what's two two chairs open?

I get back there whole fred having a little meeting and I'm like, what's up, fellas, y'all can turn the valume up?

And they were like this, come back in who is.

And before you know it, they was watching the game too.

The It was two guys from Old miss Oh really sitting right there.

Yes, it was misery.

They had they you know what cross They sitting there like this the whole time.

Yes, yeah, like, oh you really they didn't tell me they was from Omen for you.

They went to cheering.

Did they know who you were?

By the way, Yeah, didn't know him, of course they know who you were.

Free came in and broke the ice.

Ain't saying I just want to making everybody lamb.

Yeah, I went to talking battle about them.

Yeah.

Did you do have a natural gift for that?

I don't like to give you a props.

So you have an excellent feel for that.

People.

I think people are the easiest thing in the world.

People can make people complicated, but people are simple.

Right, Well, talking about people, people helping people, Let's talk about our new OC.

That's David Blough for some actual commanders.

Now you sat through all the Miami and all Fred's nonsense.

Right.

So he's a thirty year old quarterback from Purdue, played there from twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen.

He's the assistant quarterback coach here from twenty twenty four twenty twenty five after Tavida left YEA, they increased his responsibilities just and again, I'll read some of these other kind of things off about him in a second.

Just starting off real high level, what are we thinking about David Blole?

You're excited for him?

Kind of an exciting opportunity.

I'm excited for the new age, but I'm also excited that him and Jay already got a relationship.

He understands what he likes and what he don't like.

That new Blood.

The one thing about new Blood is.

That he go think if we would have got what we call a retread, somebody been there, somebody did that.

They already have this certain DNA to what their offense is, about what they do and what they don't do, what they like and what they don't like.

He's gonna be kind of ali cart Is.

I'm going to cater my thoughts in my scheme to my quarterback, and I think that's going to be the most important thing.

Even though it's a new voice, it's a voice that he even heard before.

Yeah, I'm excited for the for the unknown, you know what I mean, Like we don't know, We don't know, but nobody knows what style of offense is going to be.

We don't know.

It's also a young voice.

You're talking about a new voice.

It's a young you know.

I think when you have a guy that's getting his first shot at it, he's going to be more.

Responsible.

He's going to hold itself accountable knowing that, look, man, I've seen I've been here long enough to see and heard the whispers of what people want, and.

You can watch the lead.

It's a copycat lead.

Now, if you have a brand, if you have a brand meaning that you have a style of offense, a style of player rather meaning that you come from something that if you have that already, didn't boom, give it to us.

Let us know how you're going to do things.

But if you don't, if you say, you know what, I've been a couple of places and I've seen a lot of things work, he can now blend all that together.

So I don't know, I don't know if that's going to happen, But I'm kind of looking at it like, you know, I just jokingly told you, I can't.

Wait till you break it down to this, until what is going to look like?

You know what does such a good job as you know, speaking offense, the terminology in that language.

I'm just excited.

I can't stand in a hat him.

I'm just excited though, for the guy that just to get a shot and knowing that we don't have to change the whole offense going that you know, Jayden.

I thought the first thing I heard from when Cliff was going Jaden wasn't happy, you know, And I don't know how true it was, but that's the first thing someone recorded.

So when you hear that, you're like, hey, I don't want our quarterback just run I mean, and then sitting out there having to learn something new.

So I'm all looking forward to it.

Man.

Yeah, And so you mentioned something there that I think is a really good point to bring up.

He's a young guy, right, and you know, Teddy, you've played for Kyle here in twenty ten.

He was very young coordinator.

He played for Sean for I think a year, right, obviously very young.

What does that What was your experience with those guys and how did they handle their youth in relations to players, because Sean, i remember, was younger than Cooley when he started coaching.

Well, Sean was twenty four years old when he was my receiver coach.

And I can tell right then and there he was he had the wrong job.

I was like, oh, this dude need to be a coordinator or something, because the way he's breaking it down to us, Sean was in the back of the room.

He was the assistant receiver coach.

Yeah, Keingy McCardell was the big guy, but me and Keene was learning a new offense together.

He was the coach, but this is his first time in the system and this is my first time as a player in the system.

So Keenan was teaching us and Sean was kind of giving us the verbage in the back and I'm like, Keenan, excuse me, I don't mean interrupt.

What did you say?

And I can tell Sean didn't really want that because he didn't want to step over.

He was like, He's like.

No, I was just saying And the way he broke that down, Keene was like, yeah, man, if you got something to say, say it.

And I'm like, and I remember leaving that meeting and Sean was like, bro thank you for doing that.

Like, you know, it took a lot, you know what I mean.

Now I could kind of like, you know, go and I could share my you know, my my insights.

So with that, that little meeting alone told me that, oh this guy has a bright future.

And then fast forward, he left our room, went to y'all guy's room, and then he left that room and went to be a coordinator or the experience of him being a coordinator is just like what I'm seeing now.

These guys, even when you watch Kyle Shinehanm coach the game as the head coach, they know how to set things up from what they see is going on out there, from what they And it's crazy because like, you know, we going to games and you say, this is what we went over this week.

We can't go off of what we did last week.

Those are already in the in the back of their head they coming into the game.

I remember sitting in meetings with Kyle, and Kyle will go through the game plan and he would tell RG specifically like hey, we ran this last time with Tanna.

If this doesn't work, then we're gonna hit this guy.

But he's letting you know, I'm already thinking that they might have something for.

This because scored on this last time.

Yeah, if it don't work, then we're gonna do this.

So even though it might not be in the game plan, they're thinking.

They're thinking, like what are they gonna do?

We do this already, And that's what I think young guys.

I think the young, innovative, you know, new minds of this league when it comes to coordinating cause you see so many of them now, all the teams out young head coaches, young coordinators, young young creative coordinators.

Because they've been around, they understand the game and about you just write some down and saying blab bum.

It's about finding the best mismatch.

And I think that's what they bring to the game right now.

They're out there trying to find a way to out smart you, our schemes, you with their brain instead of it's like I'm gonna go out here and running if my players beat you up.

No, I mean it's it's to me.

I think it's deeper than that.

Yeah, I know.

I think that's a great insight.

If you had any exposure with like young coordinators, I know you had some like some crossover with Mike Tomlin.

Was that Mike Tumblin was when coordinated last time he was coordinating.

He was very young right at the time.

Yeah, he was young because come on, he'd been in the Pittsburgy head coach for twenty years.

And so I guess my question is, like, so with the with offensive guys, there's a there's a communication connection, Yeah, an energy that comes across, and I think you do have to kind of establish a confidence defensively with.

It's the same thing because they're gonna come with some new age stuff that somebody else ain't running.

They're gonna add this wrinkle to something that's old.

And the hardest thing I think when you when you promoted to a coordinator, it ain't the play calling because you got in your head you want to call plays.

It's the clock management.

It's the it's the other thing.

It's the player management.

Like this's those things like can I in this chest move move Tanner to a place where he can beat this guy that we know he can beat.

Like so it's the small things to me, And so.

In my head, it's how fast does he get the clock management part down to me more than it is his play calling, because I think if your office with guy you can call right now, I can put you on his office courtner.

You can call plays like you gotta bring in your head and it might be shutter hands, but you're gonna you're gonna lean on what worked for you, and I think he's gonna do the same.

And what I love about.

Youthful coordinators because they don't have a true DNA yet they cherry pick.

They cherry pick.

From everybody's scheme, and they only care about what works.

They don't care about me leaning against my tree.

I'm going to go with what works, not.

Even saying this is what this guy was well beyond being his youthful year.

But I remember my first year here with Coach Gibbs.

Coach Gibbs said, hey, screw what I've done.

You know what I mean, I've already been here for a year.

This is my second second year.

No, he had been.

Here for years, but I'm saying when I got here, he was already here.

So year two of him, his second stint, he was running the offense that he ran last year.

And he's like, something ain't working.

I got other And when he saw that I can do different things, he's like, tanna, come in here every day six o'clock in the morning.

I got something for you.

And him him.

Bro, all those guys they were I would cut this my first year.

So this was new to me, But at the same time it was it was an experience I haven't had yet in this league that a team.

Was going to run their offense through me.

Yeah, and they moved me around, they lined me up in the backfield, they lined me up at the tight end like they moved me around so many places, finding those mismatches.

I'm running routes that the full back and the damn h backs run out the angle routes and I'm running you know, I'm running what you call it, all out and up from the backfield, getting mismatches, getting the linebacker or making them bring a guy inside.

And now we been so when you have coaches that's willing to say this is what's working in our league, you know what I mean.

And I'm gonna I'm gonna pull from what I'm seeing that that we can take advantage of, I believe, And that was, like I said before, Coach Gills was much you know, you know, had a lot of tread on those times.

By this time, these younger guys, I think, do that more more often than the Thana who are just sure about what they do.

And that's what I'm hoping that we can see and you know, David, just knowing that, Hey man, I've been around enough to know I played the game, and I've seen these other guys have success at doing this.

Yeah, how about I pulled some of this and use it.

What I'm doing And like I said before, we don't know what is what tree he's coming from.

We don't know the tree yet.

We're going to get a chance to find out.

Well, let's let's talk about where he comes from real quick, just so people could know.

So he was in Detroit under Dan Campbell and Ben Johnson from twenty nineteen twenty twenty.

That's as a player, right, he was a coach there, like I think on a GA or something in twenty twenty three to the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty two.

He also had some crossover with Kevin O'Connell, who's the offensive coordinator in Minnesota.

So if you're just looking at those of those two, like Ben Johnson and Kevin O'Connor, obviously they're different, but to me they feel like very variations of the same thing there.

Yeah, the variation is the same thing.

Very Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay kind of West Coast run Mary's to the past, play action shots on Morston at the center, right, and again like when you look at and this is talking about to Tanna's point, this is why when we make me think of it is obviously Ben Johnson going to Chicago.

You know, everyone thought always just going to bring his system and PLoP it down here.

And there are principles, but when you look at how they're using Caleb Williams, Yeah, it's a lot more pistol less under center than it would be with Jared Goff and still a part of the year.

Gov kneesed it because he had no head to run anment correct.

So I think like when you look at the look at how he's tweaked it right, look at the points that he's emphasizing, like he emphasized Cole Loveland was a young tight end, Luther Burden who's a young receiver, and they've kind of found ways to tannis point to speak to the playmakers that they have, and I think like that's what he's exposed to a high level.

Like one of the best quotes I've ever gotten from any coach.

I was talking to someone at the combin last year and he was from the Kevin O'Connell try.

I said, how did you guys fix Sam Darnold?

Like, how did you do it?

And he said, you know, what's really helpful is making sure the first guy is open.

And so what is what are they doing in Chicago if we're going to make sure the first guy's got a good look.

It's really clean, and then you know you're gonna have to read it out.

We're gonna do our damnedest to put that guy in a good position in this match.

But theren gain in Chicago looks the same as it did.

That is true, Yes, but sweet and I can't even say the other bat guy, I'm a nun guy.

They are running it than down field, and I think that's the thing that I'm maybe most excited for is I thought Cliff did a lot of good things formationally stretching you guys out.

The The run game was a classic spread run game, relatively simple.

You're gonna run weak side zone, you're gonna run kind of the downhill duo stuff.

You're gonna run a little bit of pinpull part of it, partially because you don't have enough condensed formations.

You had enough hats to the surface, right.

I'll be damned if that run game in Chicago, that run game in Detroit isn't one of the more creative run games in the NFL.

Yes, and talk about finding a quarterback and easy button.

If we get an efficient run game.

Everything, it ain't just efficient run game is having the discipline to stay with the run.

And it's also saying this run game is just as much as a part identity, it's everything else, and this is gonna be the key to taking the pressure off of your quarterback.

I'm watching Josh Allen the other day and I was like for Superman to pull his cape on.

Actually he was more clock Kent to me, he felt more Brady is in the first couple of quarters.

Just I'm taking what you give me.

I'm not gonna try to go out and win the game on one play.

Like I feel like they run game, which they didn't get a lot of yards, but it just took the press out.

But I think that's a good point.

Like so with some of the stuff that the Bills are doing, there's a lot of like RPO.

He's got to do a lot of stuff at the line of scrimmage.

Sometimes it's just easy to go up there, call a run in the huddle, hand that sucker off.

Yes, Like so let's say I'm let's say we get sixty plays, right, I run the ball twenty five times with no like little check with me.

As at the line of scrimmage, those are not big decisions for the quarterback.

Those are not high leverage moments for the quarterback.

So now you can help the quarterback take more time and study these twenty five thirty plays.

Yeah, we're gonna put it in there.

We got we got to win these opportunities.

And so again, like I think that'll be again, we don't know what it's gonna look like.

But I just look at his tree where he's from, right, And in terms of young offensive minds, you want to be around, Ben Johnson's got to be a taba host, Kevin O'Connell's.

Yeah.

And then let's not ignore Cliff Kingberies because the thing I think Cliff did and the offense does that he created is he gives the quarterback a lot of autonomy at line of scrimmage, which is going to be important comes in here.

Yeah.

And the other thing is he's good at this matchup thing we just talked about.

And the other element that I'd like to see them carry over is a little bit of the hurry up.

Not a ton, but keep that as a vein of something, so keep it.

As a weapon, but as a whole offense, I want them to slow with that.

Yeah, I think also too, just looking back at you know, just Davy that being around Cliff of the last two years.

Yeah, I mean he's seen that we had a success in offensively both years here, you know what I mean, Like that offense.

I mean, you say what you want to say, it was successful.

You know, we talked about this the other day.

If you're getting three quarterbacks in there in the same year and we still can average twenty some points, you know a game, that's something that you want to be able to build on, you know what I mean.

And that's what I say.

So we don't know, you know how how it's going to look or where it's going to come from.

But I'm just I'm intrigued.

I can't wait.

Yeah, I'm really excited too.

And I think let's know, let's we kind of give a little background on Blow, like where he comes from Blow and uh, And I think now it's important to talk about Dan's kind of perspective because I think a lot of people were surprised by the decision because he is so young.

He's never called plays all those things.

But I wanted to.

They have none to do with it, like either you promote him, somebody steals him.

So I'm glad, he said let's talk about that real quick.

So Dan Quinn when he was in Atlanta, Okay, on his staff, the one that went to the Super Bowl.

Yeah, Kyle Shanahan, Matt Lafleoor, Mike McDaniels.

When Kyle left, he could have elevated Laflour.

I think Lafleur was kind of borderline ready at the time.

Mike McDaniels maybe a little bit farther away, but could have elevated him to maybe a coordinator position, run game quarter, could have kept him in the building.

He did not.

They all left.

He cites that as one of his biggest regrets of his career is not keeping young coordinator, young coaching talent in the building and maybe waiting, especially when you a defensive head coach right right, and especially waiting a year to promote.

Yeah, like you know, maybe you got to deal with some growing pains, but like, but you got talented people in the building.

Like that's an important thing to make sure you keep around.

And so I think it's speaks to Dan's perspective.

Like the names I just mentioned, Kyle Shanahan, Matt Lafleur, Mike McDaniel.

Oh, he coach all studs yeah, really really right off, as if you are putting David Blou in that category.

Yeah, this decision is one million percent correctly.

It's all about options too.

Yeah, Like there just wasn't a like he's he's one of the few child geniuses out there and everybody's looking at it.

And it's not like that he hasn't had opportunity, Like he was interviewing last year for a bunch of uh like quarterback coaching jobs, past game coordinator jobs, you know, the toroy lines.

One interview him this year so people understand who he is, how talented he is.

And so again, if you're Dan you think he's got it, keep him in the building and make sure you keep people around him that can help him with this process.

I think, yeah, when he tell you from the initial start of his coaching stint here that hey, I'm bringing coaches here that we just so happened to lose a coordinator.

I want them guys to be able to fill that voice.

I'm molding some guys what he said.

Yeah, and so now let's get into I think what is maybe the most interesting, and it's like how you build how David Blow can and maybe will build an offensive identity.

And this, to me is one of the most interesting things because most people come, like you said, they come with like you call it the baggage.

Right, They come in and they say, this is who we are.

Right, I come from mystery.

So here go my principles, here go my basics, right, And so one of the things in building an offense, obviously I had to do this at the high school level, which is much different.

But like to me, it starts off with who, Like, fundamentally, who do we want to be?

And some people say, oh, it's I want to be a run first team.

I want to be this kind of drap.

To me, it's even more fundamental on that, like it's like, what is the founding principle of the offense?

What's your identity?

Like do we want to be physical?

Do we want to be a passport?

Like, that's the thing.

And so once I've established that core foundation, so for me, let's just hypothetically, I want we want to be physical on first and set down?

Okay, how do then then becomes how do we do that?

Then play selection needs to reflect that initial point, right, yeah, does that make sense, Tanna?

And then as we build out, then I got my runs built out because we want to be physical.

Then the play passes need to support in terms of formation and alignment and personnel, and then we just keep building that scaffolding out.

As a defensive player, it was always telling to me the first thing when I'm studying the team, first thing I want to know is what's the name of their scheme.

Let's just say it's a West Coast.

Well, I know the West Coast principles.

I know you're finna get the ball out.

I know you all about it, yet, like I.

Know you're not feinning full vertical me most of the time.

Yes, I'm gonna be tested in a way that once you say, higo, they identity, I already know how to play them.

I love it that he doesn't have a branding.

He doesn't come off and say I am a spread offense, no whatever, I need to be the week to beat you today.

And I like offenses that are just I ain't out with the titles because the titles give give guys like me a little edge.

I do think there is an important process here right because everyone says, oh, you could do anything, but an offense that does anything isn't doing anything.

There's nothing great Yeah, so you need to be able to say this is what, this is who we are, this is how we're going to edit the plays around this, because to me, one of the biggest parts of good core good play call.

Kyle used to say this too.

It's like I had too much game planing or not enough right, Like where is that balance?

A big point of that is like does it abide by our core fundamental principle?

Yeah?

And if it does, then that play is in.

And I think too just to get just to kind of lean on what you just spoke with Calum, like, regardless of what we talk about, that that that offense, how could we fanboy over it all?

Yeah?

I love it.

The one thing you know that that run game is where it all stems from everything.

Way they run the ball.

Yeah, the zone running game, the zone.

Reads outside zone like we were here was a it was an outside zone based and so then all of your play pass look like outside zone, all of your keeper game looks like outside zone.

And the thing that this is how you know it's true, It's part of who you are.

I remember Chris Forrester, who was a big part of designing that run game, was like, we know how to block eighteen force versus any pressure, any front all the time.

Not only does the tight end fullback know what to do, the receiver don't know what to do.

Like every single it's an eleven man thing.

It's not like you know we're gonna get the receiver next time.

It's like, no, the receiver is just as important as the center, just as more than the tight end, just as important as a quarterback with the ball fake.

And when you have these principles that like for Kyle the outside zone game, when you have those principles that establish your identity, you can invest time and resources because you believe in that fundamental founding.

Definitely, when you knew when you played Denver, when I first got into the league, you knew what you was playing.

They didn't want the biggest office of lab and they wanted office of Lamb.

They could get to the second level.

They wanted fast to office of Lamb.

You knew when they finn to run the zone scheme.

It ain't no legit hole for the running back.

He gets to choose the hole like people can say what they want to.

When Clint when Cpe was in Denver, yeah, oh he was headed to a yellow jacket because that was a perfect scheme for him.

Let me find the crack, let me find the crease, and then all the play action off of it.

You talking about getting it from the full back to the tight end to the wide house.

Everybody got space after their running game.

It lays the foundation.

I can hear fans saying, like, why are we talking about Denver.

It's because like that principle that run first, like the and it's not run first, it's building it off.

The run game is the same principle that Ben Johnson uses.

It's the same principle that Kevin O'Connell uses.

Yes, and again, Cliff is more like quick pass game to set up the right.

It's a little bit different.

That is his perspective.

And all I'm saying is that if you're David Blow, I need to be very clear about what that is because it's going to inform the rest of the offense.

Yeah, definitely, all right.

I think that was a pretty good discussion about David Blow, the offense, what this is going to be.

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Okay, So if you're a defensive coordinator and you want to come to DC, what makes this job attractive?

Come on, what makes it attractive?

Let me start out?

What makes it attractive?

Right?

I got some spreaking in young talent mixed with a couple of yellow jackets.

So I got education, and I got some young youth in this room.

Right.

I got a mountain of a wall between my two d tackles right there.

And guess what, all the people that got hurt doing a year they back.

Right.

So I got most of my starters back.

And not only do I got most of my starters back, the guys that feel the info my starters now have starters time under their bail.

How deep am I really at safety?

How deep am I really at age?

I have guys?

Good lord, that's me.

The hardest thing about this roster is.

Who to bring back who not to bring back, considering some guys stepped up and playing some great football while some guys would Now, So I got a mixture of everything I need, and between the draft and free agency, a couple of tweaks here and here, I can have a top defense in the league.

Yeah.

I think two things to me.

The first thing is Jaydon Dames as a defensive coordinator.

I want a quarterback.

I want to come to a team where I know I have a quarterback that's come probably make my defense that much more.

Because we played with the lead.

You see what I'm saying.

He gonna always have us in a position to go out there and say, hey, now it's time to take over the game.

You know, this guy's done enough for He put us in a great situation by scoring the ball, running the ball, doing the things that he does special.

Now we just got to go out there and do what we do.

We give him the stoppers that we need.

You remember how we used to play on.

We played on some teams with a defense to be like, look, you know, if y'all gonna score that much, all we need to do is do this, you know what I mean?

And that's what most defensive coordinators are looking for there, for that quarterback, that Tom Brady, that Peyton Many, that Drew Brees special quarter sat.

What I need to do is come in here and do what I gotta do, because he's going to take the game over eventually regardless.

So I mean that's to me.

And then the other one I said, I said two things, dan Quinn.

I think dan Quinn is the type of coach that I would love to coach under.

Yeah, you're actually knowing that he's a defensive mind.

Our mind together will make us that much more greater.

So one defensive coordinator, two defensive coordinator minds on the same team.

If already dan Quinn has shown you that his defensive style of plays has proven to win games, bring what you can add to it to make us that much more better.

Yeah, absolutely, you Tenny took the words right out of my own.

I think dan Quinn is really appealing.

I think Adam Peters is really appealing because Freddie did a great job kind of outlying the roster defensively.

And again, there's a lot of areas to improve.

I think there's some pieces that you feel good about in terms of developmental roles, but you're gonna get investment from Adam Peters, And there's no better person at least to my eye right now, that does a good job of finding pieces that fit schematically what you're looking for.

Yeah, so he's gonna go out and you're gonna say, let's get I want a defensive tackle.

He's going to find somebody in free agency.

Let's go we need defensive end, pass rusher.

We're gonna find someone in the draft.

We're gonna piecemeal this thing together and get that roster on the defense side football significantly better.

So those are things that if I'm a DC, I know I'm going to get support from the head coach.

I know I'm gonna get support from the personnel department.

And those things are I think really important again for long term success.

And I think Tana like, I didn't even think about that from an offensive standpoint, but God bless, if we have a good offense, I'm gonna look like a good defensive quarter.

So I think that's a really really great point.

Okay, So I think this next one is interesting because I think you could take it a bunch of different ways, and I'm curious hear what you guys say.

So Obviously that's what makes DC attractive to a potential defensive coordinator.

But what can we learn from dan Quinn's history when it comes to what he's looking for when making this higher Like I think about how he's changed from his time in Atlanta.

Like in Atlanta he wanted kind of young, energetic guys at both spots.

You know, he wasn't, at least when I was there with him, wasn't super concerned about the experience factor.

I feel like he's learned from that a little bit.

And that he wants it.

That's that's just my thousand foot view again, Like.

I can see him want somebody that been there and done it on the defensive.

And especially we just talked about David Bloud, how excited we are for him.

But I don't know if I want to go young offensive coordinator and then young No.

No, I want somebody with some some some pilps on the wall.

I want somebody to come.

Did say pilps?

I thought he said something.

He wants somebody that comes, you know how we say it.

We wonder what blows identity going to be.

I think on defense, he wants somebody with a ready made out Like so if you if you got.

It Blisz getting off the bus, so be it.

That's who you are.

I want somebody that's already established there just example.

I'm not guaranteeing nothing that if somebody like Raheem comes up, Coach's right.

They've worked together.

He knows the identity, he know what Raheem likes to do.

So it's synergy there.

Yeah, like Raheem another name just a throut as Jeff Obrick.

Then yeah, same thing.

They've worked together a ton know each other style.

But also Raheem a is a established defensive mind.

Yes, Jeff Obrick is an established defensive mind and they've worked together.

That to me feels like what you want to do.

And I also think too that when you have.

So much experience in doing what we call, you know, running defenses, being a head coach, if it's one thing that stood out about your defense over time that you feel like just no matter what you do, how good you are, can't get over that hump.

You want to bring that guy in there, as I.

Say, take me over the hump in this area, get me to where I'm trying to go.

We got the defense, I have the mind, we can put the house together and be great.

But take me whatever you see I'm lacking, bring that in so I can be able to really sit back in because I think that's one of the things that he mentioned last year, or whenever he mentioned I.

I never heard him come out of his mind, but I heard so many people report that he didn't want to be that, he didn't want to do that.

He didn't want them responsibilities of running the defense while he's the head coach.

And I understand that because if I'm a guy that's a offensive mine and I'm a head coach, I don't want to have to go on nothing.

Now.

Some guys love doing that.

Some guys love putting that clipboard in front of their face and calling them plays a game because their hands on they want to see their offense flourish and be the offense that they know it can be.

Then on the other hand, saying look, man, I'm the head coach.

My responsibility is to oversee everything and make sure it's going in the right direction.

But I want you.

I want to develop you to be the great defense of you know, ac courting you could be.

I want to develop you to be the best offensive mine and OC that you can be.

And so with that being said, I would want him to go out there and find that guy that say, look, I can help you out if you need me be, but I want you to bring in your stuff.

Bringing that stuff that's going to help whatever we didn't do well last year, be fishing in that area.

He goes one thing about a great defensive coordinator.

They make sure that all eleven, all twenty five understand that it ain't no separation between any of us.

We can only coexist by working as one organism.

Grig was very high on that.

It's he level against he level a right.

We tackle as a group like he did not.

He hated one on one tackles.

If he caught us one on one tackle, they mean there's ten other people over there watching this one person tackle.

Just the basics, the laws of your defense.

We're gonna run to the ball, relentlessness, We're gonna play in the structure of the defense.

If I call cover two is cover two, DB's you part of the run front.

Just the attention to detail and the relentlessness of chase like this was his thing.

We are chasers, right they catch the ball, were chasing.

Good things only happen when you run to the ball, and I'm all about structured defense.

Now, do we always have some guys that like to play what we call hero defense, like to play outside of the structure, Yeah, we do, but they don't work with guys like Greg, he will take you out of that one of his best players.

He will put you on the bench because you're not doing what the other lemm doing.

Like we have to play as a group.

I don't want to go out here with the exs and os because everybody got exes and os.

I'm about theory.

What's your defensive principles and what's your defensive theories?

And the best coordinators always got more theories than they do exs and Oh.

Yeah, I was gonna say, just to add to that from offensive guy, what makes a great defense is the defense that no matter who you are offensively, you can't be who you want to be.

No matter what you got, we're.

Gonna take what you We're gonna take it away from.

You, gonna change what you do because of what we do.

Yeah, you see what I'm saying.

And that's I found that man when I played some when I played the lane cliff that yeah, yeah, what the coy name was?

In Chicago, like in eight o nine, Like, man, it was just when I played some of these defenses, I'd be like, man, who we can't even be special?

What we do?

You know what I mean?

We had to they dictated what how we played the ball played the ball game.

And to me, I think that's what makes defenses, certain defensive coordinators great.

You know what I mean, When hey, you got out the bus, if you the greatest show on turf?

Not today, yeah, not today?

You saw you saw when when when I watched the rams As Polands as they was back in them days when they was the greatest show and Bruce didn't look like Bruce and you saw them boys, that's what makes you a great defense.

So that's what I want.

I want to see one of those.

I want to see a defense that say, no matter who were playing, you got to change up because of who you playing.

They remind me of their tumbeling defense I was a part of when we came back when I was a Minnesota fight.

I was freaking first down in the whole Damn we had.

To go win that thing you don't talk about.

I was I was thinking about what you just said, Tenna, and like just thinking about any Are there any modern defenses that do that?

You know, it takes since the Texans come to mind, Seattle comes to settle Minnesota and again they all.

This is where I think it's interesting.

Say a two team that I know I saw this year and you ain't let Minnesota and Seattle no, and to Texas, we didn't play.

They gonna play day waight and force you to change and then to like piggyback on Fred Fred's theory, you know what I mean, Like Houston pressure is the least of any team in the NFL, Like in terms of blitzeres.

Yeah, they just are like we're gonna get after you with four We're gonna play excellent coverage in the back end.

That's their philosophy.

But they got the best duo of rushings in the league.

Right.

And then you go to Seattle they do a little bit more pressure.

They do that that match coverage stuff a little bit more kind of innovative.

Then you go to Flora's and it's like, we're gonna basically show you zero pressure all the time every place.

And so what I guess what I'm what I'm what I'm getting at here is like I agree with Fred and that like, you want a guy who's got all eleven on the same page.

And the scheme is important, but the coaching and the detail of this scheme, because there's three even Philadelphia, right, those four schemes very different, but they all work because the guys have bought in.

They're executing at a high level, and they're playing physically and violent and in a way that forces them to dictate the offense.

Yeah, as opposed to being fast.

And to me it's the I want a dude who's so detailed, it's so confident in his vision that it's like he knows, he knows exactly what he wants to be all the time.

Like when I talk to Fletch about like defense and run fits Like when I when I see that look in his eye, that's like, this is how it should be done.

That confidence that that is gonna that's gonna matriculate down to the players.

I think that's really important most definitely, you got to think about it.

Altum dick Lebaux defenses.

You knew when you got off the bus they've finna run three four, they're finna blitch you and you.

Gotta throw hot.

Well, all great coordinators know the weakness of a defense.

And when we played this defense over and over again, we as players learn they're only going to attack us here.

This is the only thing.

Okay, because we blit so much, we're gonna get screens and draw like.

So it's always a calls in effic you do.

It's so funny.

I was talking to a defensive person about Minnesota's defense and they were like, one of the things that makes them fun is they know exactly where they're week.

They know exactly the weakness.

They're like, they're gonna try and hit screens, quick outs, hitches, quick game it.

And so we're gonna defend that because that's what we know teams are gonna try and do.

Yeah, and but the other stuff we got you out right, So it's about is a defense.

I'd never been to your offense.

I make you being to me.

Yeah.

So anyway, so that's what we're looking for defensive coordinator.

At least that's what we think.

Uh.

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I'm glad you read to your keys before they go to sleep, because I'm all went to sleep.

I know it's I got a soothing voice, right, just like relax, you're tell it.

You have customer on this podcast.

I can remember in the week Instagram, like Jason is going to have his work true to who you are.

Listen, he's potty mouth.

I feel.

I'd be holding back, but you know I'm just like that.

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Okay, so this is what would you rather?

Okay, because this is based like on the new playoffs?

Has been fun this year?

No?

No, the Cottage playoffs has been fun.

The only thing we need to say.

The NFL playoffs have been fun.

The NFL playoffs has been out of this world like it could be the best.

And I was shocked because the hugeal suspects ain't there, the Lamar Jackson, the Joe Burrows, like the Patty Mahome.

So you like, I don't know what they expect.

I tell you what they inspect, good football, great football aspect.

All right, So she kind of has some would you rathers based on that environment?

Okay, So would you rather a heart attack win versus the blowout win?

Now we have two different answers for this.

As a player, I want to blow out win.

I want to win by a thousand points, not me.

I want to take my pads off in the fourth quarter and be walking around.

I want that dagger.

I want that, you know.

But I'm saying if I'm a fan though, No.

No, if I'm a player, it ain't nothing like getting that picked the end the game and then looking up to the fans in there, like because the game was so tight, you want the drama, like that's what make a good show.

Drama.

You're worried about the show.

I'm worried about I'm worried about the win.

Man, No, you already saying we're gonna win.

It's tight.

Is it gonna be a blowout?

I want it tight because I want that fan base to feel the pain.

I want that fan base.

Yeah, the whole fan base to celebrate, because they celebrate more when we win at the end.

Now, the other team they hurt a lot, like when we blow somebody at the other team, like, man, we ain't have a chance, But when we lost that thing by one field, go they like we have because you was right there, You was right there.

You could be going easily to the next round of the playoffs with like the rest of us.

But you missed the kick.

This is the most on brand answer for Fred, by the way.

I'm sure so I knew you were going to say that.

Yeah, I knew it.

I'm a little interested here what Tanni's got to say.

Well, me, I just want to win.

I care less about it.

You're getting to win me the way, the dagger or the look.

I'm okay with them both as a pleasure.

That's such a sis.

Now as a guy that's watching it, Hell no, beat them, beat them comfortably so I can sit there and not be sitting there picking my brain.

I hate it because you know we were sitting there.

Bro.

I cannot tell you how nerve wracking it is to leave in the fourth quarter of a game from sitting in the boot knowing I got to go down and do this post game show, and you're up and by the time you walk downstairs, it's a nail biter and they got the ball and they just score.

And now you have to go back down.

And I saw that time after time.

So don't game that you all enjoyed more last year the Cincinnati Bengal game, Uh.

The Chicago Bears game.

Bro, I didn't have both pretty good.

The since the game was was to me, the sincey game was like a you know, back and forth.

Yeah, so this is what I say.

Chicago, I was like, bro, we could have been won this game.

This game should be over.

To me, Chicago was.

I was more irritated because I was like, we're not playing as well as we can.

We played Cincinnati.

I was like, oh, we're thinking dunk big player, you know what I mean?

Like that's all No, No, Chicago, I was like, it's going to the end, all right.

And as we sit there and watched it unfolding, nothing like when the ball left Jedi hand.

Hell no, I looked up there that we don't don't.

The ball was spinning slow.

I see people in the crowd looking up.

I see everybody, and all I see is hell.

Noah, you say that that thing?

You say that now because we won?

What I'm sitting with the bounce the other way like that was, but boy, the hell that thing.

I felt the city shaky under my feet, the whole d MV shaking.

You know how many people jumping up.

In their living room.

I seen people kicking the TV.

It was a whole kind of things.

I'm gonna tell you how emotional crunk it was.

It happened, Yeah, because it happened this year.

One team went that way, the other team.

It was season destroying.

That's what the last minute win does.

It blows up your whole season.

Yeah, I'm with you, all right.

Next one, would you rather Cinderella such slash underdog playoff story or top seed with high expectations going to the playoffs like which?

So to me, like, I always enjoy I.

Want to be done a dump?

Do you?

I think that that top seed?

But it's a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure because you top seed, they expecting you to go out there and be the top every team.

Yes, the underdog they don't know, they just man, they here, that's what they got.

Underdog is scary.

We got nothing to lose.

Wein't supposed to be here, all right.

I rather be the underdog.

Yeah, I like to be the underdog myself.

I'd rather be the one that that people, you know, coming and beating their chest about like, yeah, we're gonna run over these dudes and surprise, surprise.

Surprise, whooped them?

Those?

Like the what game was that that was?

Like with the Heinekee versus Tom Brady, that.

Was like us going to Detroit last year, Yes, yeah, yeah, going to meet you there, and they told us basically, hey, well good look good good, good, good year, good night, seeneing.

Y'all today, but you know y'all going to be going home with the l Yeah.

And when we were walking out of that thing to do a post game show, take them shades, y'all was telling how.

Good the year we had.

I'm mad we.

Went to move to time and rip gold Rep Coords South the walls and keep every Ford we seen.

I enjoyed it.

Yeah, underdog, what about your overdog?

Underdog?

So I like like so for example, like I like when the team is dominant, like part of me really liked.

I know this is like blasphemy.

I liked when the Patriots are really good year on year because I just like that.

But let me finish, because like I just like watching dominant performances.

Now, I also like when teams are like the seventh seed and they run it through in the playoffs.

Like I like both, Like I think about it from boxing standpoint, like I like when the dude is killing it in boxing.

So you loved Mike Tyson and I loved it.

I love the new guy.

I love Floyd Maywell when he was kicking behind every.

Yeah, I did not like even even though at the end he was kind of like I felt like he was.

It's a differ between pretty boy Maywell to and floy I mean money Mayweather.

But like like when dudes are just on it and they're the you're the best in the world and something I get, I get super step over dog was this.

I enjoyed watching Anthony joshuas beat up Logan Logan.

I enjoyed it.

Yeah, we knew he didn't have a chance when they did the face to face.

Out Like.

I love it when you I love it when you're good.

I love it to be a good team, but people still want to disrespect you, like not not give you your full credit I want.

I like.

I like the Crawfit story.

So if everybody knew Crawfort was, they was disrespecting him as in how good he was or does it does it add up to to being in the ranks of these other these other elites and he went out and showed them.

So I like that.

So I kind of apply that same thing to football.

Every year.

Tom Brady's cooked, He's got no more juice, hat man like, and they can just find a way to get that win.

I just like, because everyone everyone is doubting them.

Everyone's a hater and the only people that believe are those fifty three guys in the locker room.

But once you win enough, you become to hated.

That's what I'm saying.

That's just like Kansas City.

They was darlings at first, but then it won too much and everybody like, man, I'm just tired that.

Just like Alabama football.

Nobody feel sorry for Alabama football.

Me though, Like, I really like that you can maintain that level of excellence for a long periods of time, you know, I just I think like that something to that, you know what I'm saying, Like when when the U was really good?

Like everyone want to be a hater.

But I'm like, how do you keep recruiting guys?

How do you keep coaching these guys finding playmakers like that kind of stuff.

What about the ems, the m what about them?

I'm just asking.

I'm just asking, man, you want to be a part of that.

So what about I'm saying them, is one of the best schools out there right now?

That would be an underdog story, Like if they came in and then they beat the Yeah, they started winning games and playing good football.

I'd be like, yeah, go to Mississippi, That's what.

Let me let me ask you this, who what school had more our pros in the league?

Right now?

Then?

Who who the m U c L A, U c L A and the U A pro pro pro in the league.

Now you gotta be like, y'all probably just caught.

Up what one guy one?

Yeah, they got name shows.

I don't think Chris.

Chris might be second team, but I don't think he made it.

This What school got more Hall of Famous?

You should let him obviously?

Please?

All right, let's wrap this up real quick, Okay, postseason win in a snow game versus a loss in a great weather game.

The reason we bring this up is because it looks like there's gonna be some weather in Chicago this weekend.

I want to beil a snowman, all right.

It ain't nothing like playing.

When I see snow on the forecast, the receivers k run.

But yeah, yeah, so like to me, a win's a win like hell lightning.

Let's win.

But this is something about this snow.

This snow is like the grass ain't hard like every time you fall, it's a south of Okay, I will say this if it's if it's a good snow game, so it's like twenty six degrees, yeah, good fall.

Like those are the Those are the best.

Just you feel like a child.

Again.

Those are the best.

The worst ones are when it's like sleeting and it's like freezing rain, ours like monsoon and like it's terrible.

It's like I played in the game my rookie in Denver.

It monsoon the first quarter, it got just butt cold the second quarter.

And it snowed the second head after the sun was up.

When we made it to Dinver, the sun was up.

I got a whole year's word for weather.

That's a hard place to play for months soon.

But you know what.

I'm telling you, man, I'm playing Rob.

Smith, and Robin Smith like, youngster, you can't handle this weather.

Head man, listen because you know it's a mile high there.

So imagine me playing a cold game because you know it's dry.

It just drives all out doors.

I was like, I don't know what my body going through right now.

Yeah, we'll say you like the boys, you know you're playing my hind then.

The get friend room man, the uh.

But yeah, that is tough to play, man.

It's tough place to play it.

Man.

Like listen, when I got off the plane and my lips were white, I was like, what's going on with you guys?

God?

Dang, all right?

So cold?

You know when you're out there and stop sharing.

It's hard up there, Mandy, I must say.

Playing the Green Maid like the last game of the year, like I have, Oh my gosh, would you like to win?

So I don't.

I don't like no conditions, give me the don't man putting me in a dome.

You know what I'm saying.

I know, I know you're gonna say that, But if you win in the bad weather game.

I can't even think.

I think maybe that's what we call the show.

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